Time Nick Message 00:01 NekoGloop Is noone looking at the channel? >.> 00:02 VanessaE there. 00:02 VanessaE I was working on a tweak to mesecons 00:03 VanessaE nodebox-based wall levers 00:03 NekoGloop Oh 00:03 NekoGloop Did you try gloopores yet? 00:03 VanessaE not yet 00:03 NekoGloop Can you do so? :3 00:04 GTRsdk NekoGloop: I already did that earlier, but I haven't seen any different blocks yet... 00:05 NekoGloop Try a new map. The thing glitches occasionally. 00:05 NekoGloop Something i edited in moreores code, since moreores doesnt do the same. 00:06 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_232371130.png 00:06 NekoGloop Also try a different chunk, it doesnt generate in the chunk youre in. 00:06 VanessaE NekoGloop: ^^ that is what I was doing, in case you're curious :-) 00:06 NekoGloop That is awesome vanessae 00:08 NekoGloop GTRsdk: Did you get it to work? 00:09 GTRsdk just wait... booting main minetest computer for testing 00:09 NekoGloop Ah 00:13 * NekoGloop is bored with waiting... >.> 00:17 NekoGloop GTRsdk: How long does it take to boot? O.o 00:32 NekoGloop HELLOOOOOOOOOO!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!!!?!?! 00:33 VanessaE now's about the time of day that the channel tends to go dead 00:33 VanessaE from about 20:00 to about 01:00 or so (EST) 00:34 NekoGloop Shiat 00:34 VanessaE all the westerners wind down for bed, all the easterners go to work :-) 00:40 NekoGloop And anyone in between doesnt give a shit and/or doesnt speak english. 00:45 OldCoder Hmm 00:45 OldCoder Plenty of Westerners left 00:45 NekoGloop Hm? 00:46 VanessaE OldCoder: I was half-joking :-) 00:47 NekoGloop Plenty of westeners left, like me. Assuming you mean westerners as in america. 00:49 GTRsdk NekoGloop: I'm on now 00:49 GTRsdk was just doing other stuff 00:49 OldCoder VanessaE, I am literal :-) 00:49 NekoGloop Well, did you try gloopores yet? 00:59 * NekoGloop yawns dramatically 01:07 servvs hey so everyone here is pretty well versed in LUA I assume? 01:07 VanessaE many of us are, but some are not 01:07 VanessaE what's the question? 01:07 servvs I am not, but anyway 01:07 servvs I know how to write to a file 01:08 servvs so lets say I want to make a spawn script where I can type /setspawn 01:08 servvs and write the coords to the text file 01:08 servvs after that I am stuck with 2 problems 01:09 servvs if I type /setspawn again it will append the next set of coords to the end of the line rather than overwrite it 01:09 servvs also, how would I read a variable from that file? 01:10 VanessaE no clue 01:11 servvs lol ok, I will read more into it 01:11 NekoGloop Hm? 01:14 GTRsdk NekoGloop: I see the gloop stuff! :D 01:15 NekoGloop Red is edible and torch-making :3 01:15 GTRsdk looks like Cyan in the disstance 01:15 GTRsdk now if only if I could get the server to stop poofing me back :-/ 01:16 NekoGloop Cyan? Desert Stone ore? 01:16 GTRsdk "moved too fast; resetting position" 01:16 GTRsdk yeah I'm in the desert 01:16 NekoGloop It's just used for blocks, nothing special. 01:17 NekoGloop Really just a test of if I could make it generate in desert stone. 01:17 NekoGloop And it worked, lookit that. 01:17 GTRsdk I got coal and akalin from desert stone-looking blocks... Cool! 01:18 NekoGloop The ore you really want is Kalite, found below 20y, I believe. 01:18 NekoGloop It's edible. 01:18 NekoGloop And makes torches. 01:18 NekoGloop Obvious MC Aether reference is obvious, no? 01:19 GTRsdk so does it make torches and sticks are required, or does it just do torches with nothing special added? 01:20 cornernote my up/down pistons got accepted to mesecons =) 01:21 NekoGloop Kalite Ore above a Stick makes a Kalite Torch, yes. 01:22 NekoGloop cornernote, good for you :3 01:23 NekoGloop I'm so going to build something in a singleplayer world with all my mods and share my map :3 01:32 GTRsdk NekoGloop: what is Alkin good for? 01:34 NekoGloop alakin is used to make purty blocks 01:34 NekoGloop nothing more 01:40 NekoGloop GTRsdk: Have you found anything else yet, besides Alakin? 01:41 GTRsdk Alatro :D 01:41 GTRsdk and Arol 01:41 NekoGloop oh, but no Kalite yet? 01:42 cornernote VanessaE - are you going to nodebox the mesecon wires ? 01:42 NekoGloop lol you got the two tool making ores. 01:42 cornernote like how RBA did his electricity cables 01:43 GTRsdk I'm just digging down a hole 01:43 NekoGloop What y are you at? 01:44 sdzen yes i know that too 01:44 GTRsdk -146 01:44 sdzen shit why did i type that :P 01:45 sdzen forget anything i just typed 01:45 VanessaE cornernote: already did but my code has not been implemented yet because it's nowhere near done 01:45 NekoGloop Get down to -512, GTRsdk 01:45 VanessaE cornernote: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/wires-screenshot-20120808.png 01:45 VanessaE that's what I have so far ^^^^^ 01:46 VanessaE the nodes look beautiful (though my textures are too noisy). 01:46 VanessaE I'm going to thin them down to 2x1 pixel cross-section (currently 2x2 c-s) 01:46 MiJyn nice 01:46 VanessaE I can't for the life of me get the autoplace code right 01:47 VanessaE the best I was able to get so far was autoplacing along X/Z - that worked fine. Try to go up or down and it all went to hell. 01:47 VanessaE so I threw it all out and went back to just the defined nodes in that image 01:49 GTRsdk NekoGloop: is the Alatro pick not capable of mining mese? 01:49 NekoGloop idk maybe 01:50 * GTRsdk couldn't get it to start cracking 01:50 GTRsdk darn... I built a wood pick hopign it could mine mese 01:50 GTRsdk couldn't 01:51 NekoGloop neither can mine {cracky=1} 01:51 NekoGloop try arol 01:53 NekoGloop Damn, my current singleplayer map has a sh*tload of alatro 01:53 NekoGloop Have any kalite yet, GTRsdk? 01:57 cornernote VanessaE - would you be able to share your code ? 01:57 cornernote i wouldnt mind having a look 01:57 Keegan_ My server got grieft by emmett 01:57 NekoGloop cool 01:57 Keegan_ and his friends 01:57 cornernote maybe we can work out how to get the up to work 01:57 NekoGloop what do you want me to do about it? 01:58 Keegan_ f you see ghostshell tell him for me 01:58 NekoGloop who dat 01:59 GTRsdk NekoGloop: nope, got down to -292 01:59 NekoGloop Kalite starts at 20y. 01:59 NekoGloop surprised you dont have any yet 02:01 NakedFury did you use default world gen or the marktraceur modified moreores worldgen by calinou ? 02:01 GTRsdk just default world gen 02:02 NekoGloop the moreores one 02:02 NekoGloop I edited it so it used all the right names and such 02:03 NekoGloop I need an alatro axe nao lol 02:05 khonkhortisan I don't think it's possible to make a node remove itself ten seconds after it was placed 02:05 NekoGloop Er... As long as you get the rest of the ores correctly, you should be getting Kalite 02:06 GTRsdk huh... I thought an Atom N450 would be enough for a Minetest server 02:07 GTRsdk but when mining quite a bit... and other stuff open on it, it slows down, so blocks reappear 02:07 * GTRsdk wonders how well a POWER4 would do 02:07 GTRsdk with 8 GB RAM :) 02:08 khonkhortisan hahahaha! 02:09 khonkhortisan I found out why removing my node in on_construct worked but removing it in on_timer didn't. 02:09 khonkhortisan the pos used in on_construct is (0, 8, 29) while the pos used in on_timer is (0, 8, 13) 02:10 khonkhortisan the first pos is correct and a random node was removed at the second pos 02:12 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPjW_9KZo8M&feature=related 02:12 darkrose second one's using block position instead of world position, it's a bug 02:13 khonkhortisan on_construct tells me my node was placed at (29, 22, 44) but on_timer is telling me I should remove the node at (13, 6, 12) 02:14 VanessaE there. 02:14 VanessaE wires thinned down. 02:14 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/wires-screenshot-20120808.png 02:14 VanessaE (reload it) 02:14 khonkhortisan why am I getting the wrong position? 02:14 VanessaE (also switched to showing their "off" states) 02:14 darkrose on_timer's using block position instead of world position, it's a bug 02:15 khonkhortisan is there some kind of this:get_pos() I can use? 02:15 NekoGloop idk 02:15 khonkhortisan or a way to store the position because I do have the correct one at the start? 02:15 NekoGloop smack the values in local variables 02:19 khonkhortisan the local variable seems to be getting stuck in on_construct and too local to move to on_timer 02:20 NekoGloop then make it global and stop whining 02:21 VanessaE dammit 02:21 VanessaE just when I was about to link to the code 02:22 NekoGloop random crash? 02:22 VanessaE *shrug* dunno 02:22 VanessaE I'll wait for him to return 02:22 VanessaE I was about to give the link to cornernote for those wires in the screenshot 02:22 NekoGloop ah 02:45 khonkhortisan I can't store the pos in the meta because I need the pos to get it back :) 02:46 leo_rockway save the pos in a file 02:47 khonkhortisan then how do I get the correct one back if many nodes have stored their positions? 02:47 leo_rockway you read the file 02:47 leo_rockway store the info in the file as a table 02:58 GTRsdk I found a red ore-ed block :D 02:58 VanessaE Kalite 02:58 VanessaE that's the edible one 02:59 khonkhortisan an edible ore? 03:00 VanessaE so it seems :-) 03:00 khonkhortisan I see the code where it's giving the block pos in on_timer 03:00 GTRsdk 4 of em 03:00 VanessaE besides, salt is edible (in small quantities) and it's arguably an ore 03:01 khonkhortisan salt can preserve food 03:01 * GTRsdk thinks of the red as kool-aid ore, just not watered down :D 03:01 leo_rockway ore-o 03:03 GTRsdk lol 03:04 GTRsdk Kalite tasting like kool-aid\ 03:04 GTRsdk seems reasonable, doesn't it? 03:08 VanessaE heh 03:12 * GTRsdk should probably sign up at minetest forums and see about getting notified about new stuff 03:12 GTRsdk I've missed so much! 03:15 khonkhortisan if I always use wood picks I have ore blocks left over for decoration 03:15 khonkhortisan but that's past my patience 03:16 GTRsdk thhen you mod the wood pick 03:16 GTRsdk and perhaps even the recipe for it 03:23 GTRsdk Is it possible to have a minetest server go down for updates from a script (I'm thinking about setting up a bash script to have it go down every day at a certain time or so)? 03:23 khonkhortisan sure 03:23 GTRsdk I don't want the world corrupted, so I don't think killall minetest is an option 03:26 khonkhortisan killall minetestserver makes it say Terminated so it might be exiting nicely 03:26 khonkhortisan or another way says 20:27:03: INFO: sigint_handler(): Ctrl-C pressed, shutting down. 03:33 GTRsdk khonkhortisan: is it possible to have it automatically CTRL+C? 03:40 VanessaE killall without a signal should just sent SIGQUIT by default 03:40 VanessaE or SIGTERM, I forget which 03:40 VanessaE so the program should die gracefully. 03:40 leo_rockway SIGTERM 03:41 GTRsdk looks like it died gracefully as the world still works 03:43 GTRsdk so then a script to start & daemonize minetest, then to kill it in 24 horus for updating 03:44 GTRsdk actually, it might be best (if on a development world) to just nuke the world and start over 03:45 leo_rockway GTRsdk: if you don't know about nohup, I guess it would come handy. 03:46 Azn err.. 03:46 Azn i have a little problem here 03:46 Azn freenode.net doesnt seem to work on pidgin 03:46 GTRsdk I've used it before, just still a bit new to nohup 03:46 GTRsdk Azn: wrong channel for that... try #pidgin or #freenode 03:47 Azn o.o? 03:47 Azn #pidgin 03:47 Azn brb 03:47 leo_rockway nohup minetest server & 03:47 leo_rockway oops 03:47 leo_rockway minetestserver* 03:47 GTRsdk is it that simple? last I used it, I had to specify logging directories and other stuff... 03:50 leo_rockway if you don't specify a directory it uses pwd 03:50 leo_rockway and it saves to nohup.out 03:52 GTRsdk is irrlicht required for building just the minetest server? 04:11 GTRsdk looks like it is 04:41 Forum hi 04:42 Forum hello 04:42 leo_rockway greetings 04:42 Forum how do you make a forum 04:43 Forum im sick of the minetest forum 04:43 Forum any sites 04:43 NakedFury why are you sick of it? 04:43 Forum well 04:43 leo_rockway so, you're sick of the minetest forum... and you think it's on topic to ask about fora in general in the minetest channel... just because you're sick of the minetest forum o.o 04:44 Forum i posted a texture pack i clllled fork or new version 04:45 Forum then it got deleted because it was in the wrong section 04:45 Forum so i reposted it in the releated projects page 04:45 leo_rockway there's a section for texture packs 04:46 Forum and segfault22 started harrassing me 04:46 Forum i know 04:46 NakedFury you are mallot1 04:46 Forum but i tought it was a new versiion 04:46 Forum and yes i m 04:47 VanessaE the forum has rules 04:47 VanessaE learn to adhere to them and there won't be any problems 04:47 Forum so i typed in caps because i got my c out f shop and the cap button stopped working and i was stuck in caps 04:48 Forum i got my pc out of shop 04:48 Forum so i got banned for caps 04:48 Forum what da heck 04:48 GTRsdk fix your heyboard 04:49 VanessaE ALL CAPS IS SCREAMING!!! 04:49 VanessaE that's why. 04:49 Forum i know i got it fixed 04:49 VanessaE see how it looks out of context? 04:49 leo_rockway WRONG, CAPS IS AUTOPILOT FOR COOLNESS! 04:49 Forum ok 04:49 GTRsdk autopilot is caps lock 04:49 Forum well i went back 04:49 VanessaE Forum: if you find yourself typing in all caps, you *cancel the message* and wait until the problem is fixed 04:50 VanessaE don't act stupid. 04:50 Forum s new accoount to apologize and got banned again 04:50 Forum i also dont think caps really matter 04:51 Forum so i want to make a new forum 04:51 VanessaE caps DO matter. 04:51 Forum i talked to celeron 04:51 VanessaE These are rules that have been in place since before the Internet was invented for crying out loud. 04:51 Forum he never anwsered 04:52 VanessaE I saw the message you wrote 04:52 VanessaE it's no surprise he didn't respond. 04:52 leo_rockway celeron probably doesn't care about forum drama. 04:52 VanessaE generally he doesn't but mostly he doesn't have time to deal with it. 04:52 NakedFury he will just insult you further 04:53 VanessaE mallott if you were to find some other forum, you will get banned from there too because your behavior sucks. 04:53 leo_rockway somehow Minetest being free as in beer Minecraft seems to attract a lot of people that say "I'm 12 and what's this"... 04:54 leo_rockway which is not always a bad thing, but it can get out of control fast. 04:54 GTRsdk yeah 04:54 leo_rockway so the forum has a netiquette and it needs to be followed so things stay cool. 04:54 VanessaE exactly. 04:54 VanessaE forum/mallot how old are you? 05:47 NakedFury 12.5 06:33 vicscandl guh! 06:34 vicscandl VanessaE: sorry i've been gone, work rush... 06:34 vicscandl bonus tho, have thru monday, noon PST off!!! 06:34 VanessaE I wondered where you'd gotten to 06:35 vicscandl effing work 06:35 vicscandl damnit, i said the w*** word here... sorry all! 06:36 vicscandl also... my town has been moving around... two 4.5 earthquakes in < 12h yesterday 06:36 vicscandl total of something like 35+ ranging from 0.9 to 4.5, average being about 2.3 06:37 vicscandl southern california has moved into DEFCON shake-n-bake 06:40 NakedFury I like how you included that Talageda nights reference 06:41 vicscandl NakedFury: was not going there, but yea, works out... :) 06:42 VanessaE wow, a 4.5 can do some damage 06:42 VanessaE (a little anyway) 06:42 vicscandl my house moved around and the kid was freaked the hell out man... the second big one was a massive jolt, and like 20 min later a 3.2 was like a semi-truck going by for like 30sec 06:43 vicscandl {{ data collection due to my son's new found interest in earthquakes }} 06:44 vicscandl VanessaE: working on the algae as fuel and some input screens for my mod. have new IP space on cable so i can DMZ a box for you to connect to in a day or so 06:44 NakedFury check out xyz sign mod 06:44 NakedFury finally we can have true signs 06:44 VanessaE oh yes, xyz's signs mod is nice 06:45 VanessaE already added experimental support for it in my tex pack 06:45 NakedFury nice? its genius 06:45 * vicscandl shows you a one-fingered sign... 06:45 VanessaE and xyz says he'll add yard signs (ala MC) tomorrow 06:45 NakedFury yard signs? 06:46 vicscandl V, should i pull all your git repos that i use? about to do testing 06:46 vicscandl i think i'm a week out 06:47 vicscandl nm, there was, crossing fingers 06:48 VanessaE yeah, most stuff has received some update or another recently. 07:15 VanessaE ahh much better. nice clean nightgown 07:27 vicscandl guh, spawning an item. don't want to if there is already an item in that node... codesample? 07:28 vicscandl just not seeing it trying to read from api docs 07:28 vicscandl grrrrrrrrr 07:37 VanessaE check for node pos=Y+1, look for "air". 07:37 vicscandl not working 07:37 vicscandl i'm not generating a node above, but an item 07:37 vicscandl :) 07:38 vicscandl lookng at mesecons code for example, think i found it in the detector code 07:38 vicscandl no real docs for get_objects_inside_radius()... winging it. :) 07:41 vicscandl not equal in lua: !=, <>, or ~= (thinkng third) 07:50 VanessaE the last one, 07:50 VanessaE ~= 07:51 vicscandl grrrr somehow broke my toy 07:51 vicscandl :( 07:56 VanessaE :( 07:57 NakedFury cant sleep 07:57 VanessaE sowwy 07:57 vicscandl i'll be here for an hour or so... 07:59 vicscandl stuck on figuring out if the generator has already produced an item in the node above, then i don't want to add another one.... right now is "single-stacking" multiple items on each run of the abm action 08:01 MrRatermat Question: Why are builds so slow? 08:02 vicscandl MrRatermat: you prob run redmond, so thats a starting point... 08:03 MrRatermat Can you explain? 08:03 MrRatermat Redmond? 08:03 vicscandl ahhhh kids these days... 08:03 vicscandl :) 08:03 vicscandl MrRatermat: windows = redmond 08:03 MrRatermat No, no, I mean, there are not many updates anymore 08:04 vicscandl build != update, sorry. your vernacular confused me. 08:04 MrRatermat Yeah 08:04 vicscandl try asking that question on #minetest-dev 08:04 MrRatermat Ok 08:04 MrRatermat Thanks 08:04 vicscandl this is more modders... 08:05 Smilex isn't it #minetest-delta ? 08:05 MrRatermat I make a terrible modder for LUA then 08:05 vicscandl {{ not that i'm some sort of authority }} 08:05 vicscandl yea, delta, sorry 08:05 vicscandl ((i'm on too many irc channels at the same time. i lose track)) 08:05 MrRatermat eheh 08:06 MrRatermat I think having the entire game on a multiplayer only platform, with only 1 player for singleplayer, is BRILLIANT 08:07 Smilex how so? 08:07 MrRatermat It works so well for modding AND development AND makes the engine easier to understand 08:07 * vicscandl has a text fetish... 08:07 MrRatermat Instead of having 2 sectors of the game 08:07 MrRatermat SP and MP 08:08 Smilex have you tried understanding other engines that didn't do this? And if so, and if they were hard to understand, could you factually explain why that was hardwer to understand? 08:08 vicscandl ouch 08:09 Smilex s/hardwer/harder 08:09 MrRatermat Oh dont get so picky, it only showed a point 08:09 NakedFury I think he means that here you make a mod and it works for both single player and multiplayer 08:09 MrRatermat Yeah 08:10 MrRatermat Is it possible to use billboarding? 08:10 Smilex MrRatermat: yet there was no point, also I'm just, as Cartman would say, breaking your balls. Thing is, this is not a new method of doing things, and you wouldn't notice a blind bit of difference on the modding side, if the code was implemented well. 08:11 * vicscandl offers Smilex a box of cookies... 08:11 * MrRatermat offers Smilex his life 08:11 Smilex vicscandl: well thank you, should go well with the tea 08:11 MrRatermat BRAVO 08:12 * vicscandl sends a box of english tea bisciuts for a better tea time... 08:13 vicscandl just loaded up the french press myself... 08:13 Smilex vicscandl: problem is, I'm not that much into tea, just have to decrease the amount of coffee I drink, a bit. And tea is a decent substitute 08:13 vicscandl is it the acidity from the coffee, or are you getting hit with the caffine reduction ceremony? 08:14 Smilex just having a hard time sleeping the past month, and I'm isolating the reason 08:15 vicscandl aye; get the same way. coffee induced insommia. 08:15 vicscandl strange as it sounds; change your pillow. 08:16 FreeFull I mostly drink water 08:16 Smilex some voodoo trick? 08:16 MrRatermat I already have to change my pillow twice a week 08:16 MrRatermat I definatly have to get my sweat glads removed. 08:16 Smilex voodoo, as in, for lack of a better word, but intending to say that it's one of those phenomena(sic?), where just by believing, you change things 08:17 vicscandl yea, something about altering the way your neck sits 08:18 Smilex I could try it, don't see why not 08:18 * VanessaE pokes at cornernote for signs of life 08:18 vicscandl Smilex: cheaper and safer than drugs mate! 08:20 Smilex i'm trying to read up on this new fancy lua api, and in the Nodes section, it talks about reserved params and it just throws in the name 'paramtype'. Is paramtype a member of the Node class, or is it something else entierly? 08:29 jin_xi morning everyone 08:29 MrRatermat Morniiiiiin 08:30 * darkrose pokes at VanessaE, just 'cuz 08:30 * vicscandl waves 08:30 * VanessaE pokes darkrose back :-) 08:30 darkrose \o/ 08:54 cornernote hi darkrose 08:54 VanessaE cornernote: *poke* 08:55 VanessaE cornernote: you asked earlier about nodebox mesecons wires. Here's what I have so far: https://github.com/VanessaE/wires 08:55 VanessaE (screenshot link in the readme) 09:00 cornernote i have been testing the minetest.get_craft_recipe() function, and i think its broke sometimes 09:00 cornernote works: minetest.register_craft({output = '"mod:item_a" 2', recipe = {{"mod:item_b"}}}) 09:00 cornernote does not works: minetest.register_craft({output = 'mod:item_a 2', recipe = {{"mod:item_b"}}}) 09:00 cornernote so if you write output with internal quotes then it does not seem to work 09:01 VanessaE sounds like a leftovre 09:01 VanessaE a while back you needed those extra quotes. 09:01 VanessaE not anymore 09:01 VanessaE c55 must have missed that bit. 09:01 VanessaE or I'm misreading 09:04 cornernote yes, thats the issue 09:05 cornernote i made an issue on github 09:05 cornernote https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues/206 09:05 cornernote see the problem is ALL the old mods have those internal quotes 09:05 cornernote should parse either way 09:06 NekoGloop Wat 09:17 NekoGloop Hello #minetest'ers. 09:23 NekoGloop Uh... Dead channel STILL... 09:23 vicscandl yep 09:24 MrRatermat warrior is small like sheep. 09:36 * VanessaE pokes at sfan5|OFF for signs of life 09:39 vicscandl zzzzzzzzz 09:41 VanessaE damn it he's never around :-) 09:43 thexyz don't you see that "OFF" at the end of his nickname? 09:43 MrRatermat :D 09:43 VanessaE of course, but I got so used to people indicating away when they really aren't that it was worth a try :-) 09:44 thexyz but that one is added by his bouncer when he's not connected to it 09:44 VanessaE ahh 09:44 MrRatermat Just another IRC toy. 09:45 NekoGloop Meow~ 09:45 * MrRatermat glares 09:45 NekoGloop Meow~? 09:46 Calinou hi 09:46 MrRatermat ~'o'~ 09:48 NekoGloop Oh, hey, calinou, i have a question 09:48 NekoGloop I made gloopores, which uses some (ok, a lot) of moreores code. 09:48 NekoGloop Is this ok? 09:51 NekoGloop He's back, vanessae. 09:53 * VanessaE waits for him to actually speak this time ;-) 09:54 RealBadAngel hi 09:54 RealBadAngel whassup? 09:54 VanessaE hey RBA 09:54 NekoGloop Ello rba 09:55 NekoGloop Got the code working yet? :3 09:55 RealBadAngel got 09:55 RealBadAngel testing it now 09:55 VanessaE sfan5: re: particles - can you re-center the torch smoke, make it spawn more often, and also reposition the mesecons wires particles so they're right above the wire? right now everything tends to spawn off to the sides or way too high 09:56 RealBadAngel there will be shitload of work for me today 09:57 RealBadAngel make crafting guides for like 30 items 09:57 Calinou NekoGloop, yes, it is 09:57 NekoGloop Ok thanks @ calinou 09:57 RealBadAngel make new screenshots 09:57 Calinou the GPL license allows you to do anything, except changing the license towards a restrictive one. 09:57 Calinou you MUST release the source (you do so anyway unless you compile your mod) 09:58 Calinou and WTFPL (for textures) allows you to do anything 09:58 Calinou so feel free to take the textures and edit them 09:58 NekoGloop Lol the textures you have are only edits of default. 09:58 RealBadAngel @calinou: i will comment code like: that is made by Calinou 09:58 Calinou yep, the default pack is under wtfpl 09:58 RealBadAngel hope you will be pleased 09:59 Calinou don't use "@" on irc, it doesn't highlight on some clients 09:59 Calinou fortunately, it does for xchat 09:59 MrRatermat But not MIRC 09:59 Calinou mIRC can go fuck itself 09:59 Calinou if you know what I mean 09:59 MrRatermat Sure 09:59 NekoGloop I said "-- Original code by Calinou" and the other two that i cant remember atm. 09:59 MrRatermat And xchat can go fuck itself too 09:59 PilzAdam I dont think programms can fuck themselvs 09:59 RealBadAngel im not usin plugins to get that 09:59 RealBadAngel i just type @ 09:59 Calinou GPL doesn't enforce attribution, IIRC, but feel free to do so :P 10:00 NekoGloop I credited the people that are listed in the code. 10:01 RealBadAngel when usin something good its natural to give credits 10:02 RealBadAngel adding new ore with just changin the name... and call it new mod 10:02 RealBadAngel its stupid. rude even 10:03 NekoGloop Calinou, have you tryed gloopores yet? 10:03 RealBadAngel hhehe 10:04 RealBadAngel hope you dont mind ;) 10:06 Calinou no 10:09 * NekoGloop yawns 10:09 NekoGloop I'm tired o.o 10:36 NekoGloop I'm just gonna go now if noone is gonna do anything 11:37 NekoGloop hello again 11:38 MrRatermat Hello 11:38 VanessaE hey 11:38 NekoGloop lol 11:38 NekoGloop Should I see if I can make an extension of mesecons? I feel like doing something slightly more challenging than extra blocks. 11:39 VanessaE not right now 11:39 VanessaE jeija's working on some new stuff 11:39 NekoGloop why not? 11:39 NekoGloop ah 11:39 NekoGloop do you know what? 11:39 VanessaE let's see what he comes up with first, lest you end up doing double work :-) 11:39 VanessaE hm? 11:39 NekoGloop do you know what he's working on 11:40 VanessaE not precisely 11:40 NekoGloop ok 11:41 VanessaE latest development is a programmable microcontroller 11:41 MrRatermat REALLY? 11:41 MrRatermat :D 11:41 VanessaE yup 11:42 MrRatermat WAAAAAAAAAAANT 11:42 MrRatermat :D 11:42 VanessaE get it from github :-) 11:42 VanessaE https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons 11:42 NekoGloop you can make signals go in a programmed direction 11:42 MrRatermat I love this stuff 11:42 NekoGloop Someone PLEASE give me a download link since github hates me 11:43 MrRatermat https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/zipball/master 11:43 VanessaE NekoGloop: you can make signals go in a programmed behavior entirely 11:43 NekoGloop oh, repeating singals, eh? 11:43 VanessaE well for example you can make a flip-flop 11:43 VanessaE AND/OR/NOR/etc gates 11:44 NekoGloop Oh I know, if(!A)then(A) to repeat a singl out of A? 11:45 NekoGloop or would it be if(A)off(A) if(!A)on(A) 11:45 MrRatermat Now all I have to do is forcably marry the lead developer... 11:46 NekoGloop I dont think that he'd like that xD 11:46 VanessaE neko: Not sire, I've not done anything with it myself except some basic testing 11:46 NekoGloop Well as soon as windows explorer stops being crap I'll unzip it :P 11:47 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPjW_9KZo8M :3 11:49 NekoGloop crafting recipe? 11:49 VanessaE S S M 11:49 VanessaE S S M 11:49 VanessaE M M . 11:49 VanessaE M = mesecon wire, S = silicon lump 11:49 VanessaE (I forget how silicon is made) 11:50 MrRatermat :D 11:50 NekoGloop I know 11:50 NekoGloop I think 11:50 NekoGloop Wonderful thing called Notepad++ can help with that 11:51 NekoGloop Sand Sand 11:51 NekoGloop Sand Sand 11:51 NekoGloop No, not that 11:51 NekoGloop Sand Sand 11:51 VanessaE that's sandstone 11:51 NekoGloop Sand StellIngot 11:51 VanessaE right, that's it 11:51 NekoGloop SteelIngot* 11:52 NekoGloop I know what I meant 11:52 NekoGloop SHIT ATTACK OF THE GRAVEL xD 11:52 MrRatermat I hate gravel, gravel hates me 11:53 MrRatermat Its a massive war between me and the millions of gravel in the earth 11:53 NekoGloop lol 11:53 MrRatermat I am destined to beat those scumbag soldiers that keep crushing me 11:53 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPjW_9KZo8M ding dong... 11:53 MrRatermat And blocking my paths 11:54 PilzAdam I have released my map mod: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2747 11:55 PilzAdam Could a moderator please move it to Mod Releases? 11:55 MrRatermat This is the modding room? 11:55 OldCoder MrRatermat, it is a developer channel 11:55 MrRatermat I dont know anything 11:55 OldCoder MrRatermat, We all feel that way in life sometimes :-) 11:56 MrRatermat I know everything 11:56 MrRatermat :D 11:56 OldCoder Good 11:56 MrRatermat I dont 11:56 OldCoder You feel conflicted 11:56 MrRatermat 'o' 11:56 OldCoder ._. 11:56 NekoGloop Wha.... what the hell? Akalin, desert coal, and desert iron, all in a little row... those three only generate in the desert and I'm about 200-300 blocks from any deserts... O.O 11:59 NekoGloop Dont know if it's glitching or some... thing put them there... 11:59 MrRatermat2 Damn 12:00 MrRatermat2 Ping timeout please, body account 12:00 * MrRatermat2 slaps MrRatermat around a bit with a large trout 12:00 MrRatermat2 C'mon 12:00 NekoGloop lol 12:00 MrRatermat2 Disconnect!! 12:00 MrRatermat2 I WANT TO USE MY NAME AGAIN 12:00 NekoGloop YOU MUST EAT IT 12:00 MrRatermat2 Oh, please god no... 12:01 MrRatermat2 Yay!] 12:01 MrRatermat2 Yay! 12:01 thexyz MrRatermat2: /msg NickServ ghost 12:01 MrRatermat What does that do? 12:02 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 12:02 NekoGloop Hi thexyz :3 12:02 MrRatermat What does it do? 12:02 thexyz MrRatermat: if you use it like /msg NickServ ghost MrRatermat [your_password] that'll kick MrRatermat 12:02 MrRatermat OK 12:02 thexyz so you may then take this nickname 12:02 MrRatermat OK 12:04 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPjW_9KZo8M ding dong... 12:16 NekoGloop he's notkrayon 12:19 NekoGloop Hey, VanessaE, whatcha up to? 12:19 VanessaE working on some textures 12:19 samuncle_ hello everybody 12:19 MrRatermat I working on birds 12:19 samuncle_ How I can help you ? 12:20 samuncle_ I can work for graphic art 12:20 MrRatermat They move relisticly by using a pulse+random 12:20 NekoGloop I do fine for graphics, if I sit down and do them lol 12:20 MrRatermat And render turning using CoSine 12:22 NekoGloop Anyone know why an ore set to generate in desert stone randomly appears on the surface of a normal grassland? 12:23 xorius pls, help 2 me 12:23 xorius how to install a texture pack? 12:23 MrRatermat ):| 12:24 NekoGloop Uhm... open your config file, and set the texture pack thingy to the directory of the texture pack 12:25 PilzAdam http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Installing_texture_packs 12:25 xorius thx))) 12:29 PilzAdam I have released my map mod: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2747 12:29 PilzAdam Could a moderator please move it to Mod Releases? 12:29 NekoGloop It doesnt seem that useful, at least to me 12:30 NekoGloop You could easily just remember the landscape or even write down some coordinates. 12:30 PilzAdam sure its useless but fun 12:31 thexyz moved 12:31 PilzAdam thx 12:31 NekoGloop I would have to install python :P 12:31 PilzAdam its only tested on linux 12:32 NekoGloop lol so not on windows? 12:32 PilzAdam the mod is an easy in-game use of the minetestmapper 12:32 PilzAdam i dont have windows with python so cant try it 12:32 PilzAdam but it could work 12:33 PilzAdam it would be awesome if you could test it 12:34 NekoGloop is python free 12:34 MrRatermat Yes 12:34 NekoGloop then a link? 12:34 MrRatermat Go find it yourself 12:35 NekoGloop then i dont test it 12:35 MrRatermat Im not invloved 12:36 MrRatermat involved* 12:36 MrRatermat Go to google 12:36 PilzAdam search: "python download windows" 12:37 PilzAdam german link: http://www.heise.de/download/python-117192.html 12:37 NekoGloop lolno 12:37 NekoGloop i dont speak or read german 12:37 darkrose http://lmddgtfy.net/?q=python+download+windows 12:37 thexyz http://python.org/ 12:38 thexyz was that so hard? 12:38 NekoGloop yes it was 12:38 NekoGloop considering i have to multitask with more than what I'm doing on this computer 12:39 NekoGloop python 2.7 or 3.2? 12:40 PilzAdam ive tested it with 2.7 12:40 thexyz pil doesn't work with python 3 12:41 NekoGloop its webpages like python.org that make me feel like I jsut dont have the mental capacity to understand 12:41 NekoGloop WHICH FREAKIN DOWNLOAD 12:42 NekoGloop There are 4 windows downloads... 12:42 NekoGloop just for 2.7.3... 12:43 PilzAdam you have x86 12:43 PilzAdam ? 12:43 RealBadAngel had same feelin with lua tables 12:43 NekoGloop wtf is x86 12:43 RealBadAngel lol 12:43 PilzAdam here: python.org/ftp/python/2.7.3/python-2.7.3.msi 12:44 RealBadAngel intel's 86 line of CPU's 12:44 RealBadAngel where r u from? mars? 12:44 NekoGloop I'm like "I WANT F*CKING ENGLISH" 12:44 RealBadAngel its like shut the f*ck up 12:45 NekoGloop I have intel 4 HT thingy 12:45 RealBadAngel its been there alwyas and since the beggining 12:45 NekoGloop computer itself is refurbished. 12:45 VanessaE NekoGloop: x86 means the 386, 486, etc CPU line, including modern stuff like the Pentium and Core series. 12:45 VanessaE ot also refers to the AMD equivalents like Opteron or Phenom 12:46 VanessaE particularly when running 32-bit code. 12:46 RealBadAngel even XT and AT 12:46 VanessaE (otherwise it's called x86_64 for 64-bit code) 12:46 NekoGloop OH LOOK SOMEONE WHO CAN TRANSLATE THE UTTER STUPIDITY OF THE PYTHON WEBPAGE >.> 12:46 VanessaE RealBadAngel: no, not XT/AT. Those were 8088. :-) 12:46 RealBadAngel first 16 it was at 12:46 RealBadAngel 286 12:46 PilzAdam NekoGloop, this link will work for you: python.org/ftp/python/2.7.3/python-2.7.3.msi 12:46 RealBadAngel and was called AT 12:46 VanessaE er right, I tend to forget about the AT 12:46 VanessaE still, XT was not a 286 :-) 12:47 NekoGloop 1) that's not a link 12:47 thexyz NekoGloop: that's not python site's stupidity :P 12:47 NekoGloop 2) I already got it 12:47 PilzAdam k 12:47 PilzAdam pls download version 2 of my mod 12:47 PilzAdam version 1 dont work 12:47 NekoGloop thexyz: I know what you're implying 12:48 * NekoGloop yawns dramatically 12:50 * RealBadAngel sets inrterrupt on vertical refresh 12:50 NekoGloop wha...? 12:50 RealBadAngel if yelled dp shoot 12:51 RealBadAngel end, 12:51 RealBadAngel *do 12:51 * NekoGloop yells 12:51 RealBadAngel shoot 12:51 * NekoGloop dodges bullet >:D 12:51 * VanessaE invokes bullet time 12:51 RealBadAngel hehehhee 12:52 RealBadAngel youre lost 12:52 RealBadAngel i mean hit 12:52 * NekoGloop wonders how the f*ck do I get paper... 12:52 PilzAdam NekoGloop, /giveme paper 99 12:52 NekoGloop lol 12:52 NekoGloop how to craft it 12:53 PilzAdam paper or map? 12:53 RealBadAngel try /find loacation WC 12:53 NekoGloop PAPER >.> 12:53 PilzAdam a verical line of 3 papyrus 12:53 NekoGloop oh 12:53 NekoGloop k 12:53 PilzAdam *vertical 12:54 NekoGloop LOL could not load ap.png 12:55 NekoGloop mpa.png* 12:55 NekoGloop map.png* 12:55 NekoGloop And its a horizontal line of 3 papyrus ;) 12:56 PilzAdam see debug.txt and search "[map]" 12:56 RealBadAngel ok, i done everything 12:56 RealBadAngel going to take a nap 12:56 RealBadAngel test it a bit 12:56 NekoGloop FINALLY 12:56 RealBadAngel and release 12:57 NekoGloop YOU UPLOADED 12:57 NekoGloop ?* 12:57 RealBadAngel nope 12:57 NekoGloop DAMN YOU 12:57 RealBadAngel need testing 12:57 RealBadAngel already found and fixed 2 nasty bugs 12:58 NekoGloop DAMMIT UPLOAD IT AT LEAST SO I CAN TEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 12:58 RealBadAngel today 12:58 NekoGloop You said that two days ago. 12:58 RealBadAngel nope 12:58 RealBadAngel or maybe ;) 12:59 RealBadAngel anyways im quite ready for release 12:59 VanessaE please don't shout, neko 12:59 NekoGloop debug.txt shows "[map] debug:1" 13:00 PilzAdam and the other "[map]" lines? 13:00 PilzAdam i need the lines under: "[map] No map image found. Creating image... (This will take some time)"" 13:00 NekoGloop That line does not exist 13:01 PilzAdam is there a texture in map/texture/? 13:01 NekoGloop no 13:01 PilzAdam this line should appear 13:02 PilzAdam try restart 13:02 NekoGloop restart what? The map? The program? 13:02 PilzAdam minetest 13:02 NekoGloop I already did that but wth 13:03 RealBadAngel regenerate 13:03 NekoGloop Let's humor Pilz. 13:03 RealBadAngel hehehehe 13:04 NekoGloop "python" is not recognized as an external or internal command, operable program or batch file 13:04 PilzAdam you know how to configure the PATH variable? 13:04 NekoGloop nope 13:05 PilzAdam you know what a batch file is? 13:05 NekoGloop nope 13:06 PilzAdam could u please tell me the directory where the python.exe is installed? 13:06 Calinou windowsian trying to use python 13:06 Calinou good luck 13:08 NekoGloop C:\Program Files\python\python.exe 13:08 thexyz add that dir to your PATH 13:08 NekoGloop do what where now? 13:08 thexyz so python can be called like "python.exe", not "C:\Program Files\python\python.exe" 13:08 NekoGloop 1) What is PATH 13:09 NekoGloop 2) Why does it matter 13:09 NekoGloop 3) How do I change it 13:09 PilzAdam edit the init.lua of my mod 13:09 thexyz http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000549.htm 13:09 NekoGloop 4) Why are these things purposefully complex? 13:09 PilzAdam this line: "local result = os.execute("python "..path.."minetestmapper.py -i "..minetest.get_worldpath().." -o "..path.."/textures/map.png")" 13:09 thexyz because. it's. windowz 13:09 thexyz windows is hard for novices 13:10 thexyz simple things go tricky 13:10 PilzAdam change it to "local result = os.execute("C:\Program Files\python\python.exe"..path.."minetestmapper.py -i "..minetest.get_worldpath().." -o "..path.."/textures/map.png")" 13:10 PilzAdam change it to "local result = os.execute("C:\Program Files\python\python.exe "..path.."minetestmapper.py -i "..minetest.get_worldpath().." -o "..path.."/textures/map.png")" 13:10 PilzAdam the second one 13:10 thexyz in linux world everything is simple 13:11 PilzAdam NekoGloop, you dont have to change the path variable 13:11 PilzAdam just do what i just said 13:11 NekoGloop stop promoting OS's. windows is just fine and half of everything only run on windows 13:11 NekoGloop PilzAdam: That didnt fix it 13:11 NekoGloop Same goddamn error 13:11 thexyz oh, yes, i forgot, in windows everything is easy 13:12 thexyz for example, compiling minetest from sources ^^ 13:12 thexyz or installing python 13:12 sdzen or running minetestmapper.py which is what i suppose your trying to do 13:12 PilzAdam you have exactly copied the line without quotes? 13:13 PilzAdam ohhh change all / to \ 13:13 PilzAdam that should fix it 13:13 NekoGloop Give me about 5 hours to attempt to make sense of 3 people "helping" 13:13 NekoGloop PilzAdam: ... that symbol isnt anywhere in the code. literally. 13:14 PilzAdam you mean the "/" 13:15 NekoGloop oh nice, now an unfinished string. happy now? 13:15 PilzAdam sry change it to \\ 13:15 NekoGloop instead of sending me around in circles, how about helping? 13:15 sdzen but circles are fun! 13:15 PilzAdam i will release a windows version 13:15 NekoGloop shut up sdzen 13:16 NekoGloop Yeah, release one that's compatible with the most widely used OS as your last objective. Yup, that'll work. 13:16 thexyz awww, those windows fags are so rude =( 13:17 sdzen and thats their main arguement 9 times out of 10 13:17 VanessaE NekoGloop: linux is the most widely used OS now. 13:17 thexyz being so rude is strange 13:18 VanessaE (thanks mostly to Android) 13:18 thexyz minetest is released for windows, although windows is worst platform for minetest 13:19 NekoGloop honestly, i dont know if you all are just trolling me or being semi-sincere >.> 13:19 NekoGloop so I'll just shut up now 13:19 sdzen hmmm i would have thought mac would be worse 13:19 NekoGloop not test PilzAdam's mod 13:19 NekoGloop etc. 13:19 thexyz maybe, but who cares about macs? 13:19 sdzen good point 13:19 sdzen mac fags do 13:19 NekoGloop better yet: who gives a crap about linux? 13:20 Calinou lol 13:20 Calinou PilzAdam, you need PIL too 13:20 Calinou python imaging library 13:20 Calinou random EXE time :| 13:20 thexyz NekoGloop: i think most people on this channel 13:20 thexyz if we're talking in minetest terms 13:20 NekoGloop Because they use it 13:20 NekoGloop Same as I use windows. 13:20 Calinou NekoGloop: linux is the most widely used OS now. 13:20 Calinou android lol 13:20 Calinou it isn't, windows is more used. talking about COMPUTERS not phones 13:21 VanessaE Calinou: tablets too. 13:21 Calinou NekoGloop, if you aren't on a computer with UEFI just install linux in dualboot 13:21 sdzen hmmmmm why dont we all throw our computers off a cliff and say who cares about technology 13:21 Calinou (computers before 2011) 13:21 NekoGloop i think mine is older than that... 13:21 NekoGloop refurbished computer 13:22 Calinou and no, linux isn't hard. 13:22 Calinou not even debian, if you can be bothered to read 13:22 * Calinou prepares to stab any archlinuxian out there 13:22 sdzen damn it 13:22 thexyz archlinux isn't hard too 13:22 * VanessaE mumbles something about gentoo ;-) 13:22 thexyz if you can read 13:22 sdzen i was just going to comment 13:22 thexyz but most people cannot 13:23 thexyz sadface 13:23 NekoGloop Putting aside the fact that linux probably sucks and doesnt run Game Maker so it's worthless to me, having a dualboot on this thing would just be asking for too much disk space 13:23 sdzen it isnt 13:23 Calinou archlinux is unstable, hard to use and configure, bitches about config files 13:23 thexyz same goes for gentoo/slackware/etc, which is called "hard" by Calinou 13:23 Calinou NekoGloop, why does it suck? 13:23 Calinou game maker DOES suck 13:23 Calinou lrn2coe 13:23 Calinou code* 13:23 NekoGloop i do code >.> 13:23 thexyz that just means that it's "hard to use" for you 13:23 NekoGloop In game maker 13:24 thexyz what do you mean by "configure"? 13:24 NekoGloop for any one who has stone cold beliefs that Game Maker sucks: TRY IT OR GO FUCK YOURSELF 13:24 VanessaE NekoGloop: relax 13:25 * sdzen fucks himself then trys it 13:25 VanessaE linux sucks. it just sucks less than windows, that's all 13:25 Calinou thexyz, OMG EDIT /ETC/X11/XORG.CONF AND PUT HERE IN THE "SCREAMING" TAB: FORCE_VSYNC_DISABLED_JUMPPAD_JUMPPPPPPPPAD FALSE 13:25 Calinou yeah everything sucks 13:25 Calinou :] 13:26 Calinou thexyz, who the fuck uses slackware/gentoo today? 13:26 PilzAdam NekoGloop, this is the windows version; could you please test it: http://ompldr.org/vZjIydg/map.zip 13:26 NekoGloop NO 13:26 Calinou everyone uses harshlinux because you can put anime porn as background 13:26 Calinou other distros don't let you do that apparently 13:26 PilzAdam NekoGloop, why? 13:26 VanessaE I'll stick to ubuntu. 13:26 thexyz Calinou: is that childhood trauma? 13:26 NekoGloop YOU HAVE ALL PISSED ME OFF TO THE POINT WHERE YOU CAN ALL JSUT GO DIE. 13:26 Calinou no u 13:26 VanessaE I got tired, years ago, of having to be an admin instead of just *using* my machine 13:27 thexyz i don't rage about ubuntu/windows/etc 13:27 Calinou ubuntu derivates are ok 13:27 Calinou but I tend to prefer rolling releases; thus, LMDE, or debian testing/unstable 13:27 Calinou derivatives* 13:27 PilzAdam NekoGloop, i didnt say anything about windows. I even make a windows version of my mod. 13:27 thexyz and yes, many people use gentoo 13:27 thexyz but you won't meet them at ubuntu forums ^^ 13:27 NekoGloop SHUT THE FUCK UP 13:27 Calinou I never see them 13:28 Calinou oh god I started a distro war again. :D 13:28 VanessaE -funroll_loops -O3 -fsomeother_damn_switch -fracing_stripes -ftype_r_sticker 13:28 VanessaE ;-) 13:28 PilzAdam anyone else has windows and want to test my windows version? 13:28 thexyz why not? 13:28 Calinou -vomit-frame-pointer 13:28 Calinou -Win 13:28 Calinou ^ how I feel with gcc optionsd 13:28 thexyz if somebody want his PC to be really fast 13:28 Calinou -d 13:28 Calinou use HARSH LINUX! 13:28 Calinou sentence completed 13:28 thexyz i mean, gentoo 13:29 thexyz so that shows us again that Calinou can't into distrowars 13:29 VanessaE thexyz: I used to use gentoo. I'm allowed to make jokes about it :-) 13:30 thexyz so that should be called flame war, not distro war 13:30 thexyz no real points 13:37 PilzAdam anyone want to test my windows map mod: http://ompldr.org/vZjIydg/map.zip 13:38 NekoGloop NO 13:53 JamieWill Hi Any one crated any new mods i will test them out if you want? 13:54 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2747 you need linux and python installed 13:55 JamieWill I might give it a go but will need to install python. 13:56 PilzAdam you have linux? 13:57 JamieWill wait no sorry 13:57 PilzAdam windows? 13:57 JamieWill yes sorry my mind went blank there sorry 13:57 PilzAdam http://ompldr.org/vZjIydg/map.zip 13:58 PilzAdam install python 2.7.3 and try the mod in the link 13:58 JamieWill ok 13:59 PilzAdam you should also edit the variable in the first line of init.lua 14:00 JamieWill ok 14:11 JamieWill what to? 14:11 PilzAdam you mean the variable? 14:12 JamieWill yes 14:12 PilzAdam Copy the path to the python.exe in it 14:12 JamieWill ok will do 14:14 JamieWill just oinstalling pyhton what is it? 14:14 JamieWill the mod? 14:15 PilzAdam pytho is a programming language 14:15 PilzAdam *python 14:15 JamieWill no i mean the mod 14:15 PilzAdam the mod adds a map 14:15 JamieWill oh ok nice 14:15 JamieWill what is in the map and what version of minetest? 14:16 PilzAdam ive tested it in linux with minetest 0.4.2-rc1 14:16 JamieWill ok i will ad it to my server? 14:16 PilzAdam you should use 0.4.2-rc1 too 14:16 JamieWill i have it 14:17 PilzAdam when you load a world the mod should create a image of the map 14:17 PilzAdam and you can craft a map like this: 14:17 PilzAdam paper paper 14:17 PilzAdam paper paper 14:17 JamieWill ok 14:18 PilzAdam creating a new image of a world may take some time 14:19 PilzAdam see also this thread: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2747 14:19 JamieWill python is still installing 14:20 PilzAdam you also need this (after python is installed): http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil/ 14:20 PilzAdam its a image libray for python 14:21 JamieWill where will i place it? 14:21 PilzAdam idk its a .exe; run it 14:22 JamieWill oh ok 14:24 JamieWill done 14:25 PilzAdam then install the mod 14:26 PilzAdam and load a worl (i recommend a small world) 14:26 PilzAdam *world 14:26 PilzAdam then craft a map and look if it works 14:32 * VanessaE wanders off for a nap 14:35 JamieWill i am away to try it now 14:35 JamieWill too busy watching the olympis GBR 14:39 JamieWill it said it was generating map.png? 14:40 JamieWill i have a green sign like thing? 14:40 PilzAdam in the chat? 14:41 PilzAdam search this line in debug.txt: [map] No map image found. Creating image... (This will take some time) 14:41 JamieWill i will find it soon 14:42 JamieWill ok found it 14:45 PilzAdam what are the lines under it? 14:49 JamieWill [map] No map image found. Creating image... (This will take some time) 14:49 JamieWill [map] debug: 1 14:50 PilzAdam and the next line? 14:50 JamieWill thatis all for map 14:51 JamieWill hj 14:51 JamieWill sorry* 14:51 PilzAdam please change the line "if result ~= 1 then" in int.lua to "if result ~= 0 then" 14:52 JamieWill in the debug? 14:54 JamieWill done 14:55 JamieWill i read instruction wrong there is no txtur in textur pack in the mod file 14:55 JamieWill *texture 15:01 JamieWill yo cal 15:03 PilzAdam did you restart minetest after editing init.lua? 15:04 JamieWill t yes now it is a cream / white colour 15:05 PilzAdam now check debug.txt 15:07 NekoGloop I'm back-ish 15:10 NekoGloop Oh no another k 15:16 JamieWill [map] No map image found. Creating image... (This will take some time) 15:16 JamieWill [map] debug: 1 15:16 JamieWill [map] Failed! 15:16 JamieWill [map] Tried to run command "C:UsersJamie's AccountDesktopMinecraftPython\python.exe C:\Users\Jamie's Account\Desktop\Minecraft\Minetest 0.4.2\minetest-0.4.2-rc1-d38b465-win32\bin\..\mods\minetest\map\minetestmapper.py -i C:\Users\Jamie's Account\Desktop\Minecraft\Minetest 0.4.2\minetest-0.4.2-rc1-d38b465-win32\bin\..\worlds\Jamie's server -o C:\Users\Jamie's Account\Desktop\Minecraft\Minetest 0.4.2\minetest-0.4.2-rc1-d38b465-win32\bi 15:16 Calinou your account has a space 15:16 Calinou WHY THE FUCK did you call it jamie's account? 15:16 Calinou ttry not to have fun characters in your path 15:16 Calinou eg. spaces 15:16 Calinou "Jamie's server -o C:\" 15:17 Calinou change your world name to a name without spaces, too 15:17 Calinou or lastly: use linux 15:17 JamieWill Harsh 15:18 PilzAdam JamieWill, change the \ in the variable to \\ 15:18 thexyz Calinou: is /home/Jamie's Account/ better? 15:18 Calinou linux usernames can't have capitals, spaces or fancy chars 15:19 thexyz sure? 15:20 PilzAdam Calinou, why are u telling everyone to use linux. I need a tester for my mod for windows and you tell him to use linux. This make no sense. 15:21 JamieWill Calinnou x_x 15:21 NekoGloop Calinou is just being a brat. Leave the kid alone. 15:22 JamieWill *Calinou 15:22 PilzAdam JamieWill, change the \ in the variable to \\ 15:23 JamieWill there is not textures in the map file btw? 15:24 PilzAdam the created map will be there 15:24 PilzAdam on server startup the map will be created 15:24 * NekoGloop eats Calinou's head off :3 15:24 NekoGloop Yum~ :3 15:24 PilzAdam and saved in textures/ 15:24 Calinou NekoGloop, no u 15:24 JamieWill it not ther 15:24 Calinou spaces in paths are very dangerous, you know? 15:24 Calinou they break things often 15:25 Calinou as well as special chars in account names 15:25 PilzAdam yes because it didnt work 15:25 NekoGloop I use spacs in my paths very often 15:25 Calinou I almost never do 15:25 NekoGloop My account has a special character 15:25 Calinou we invented underscores 15:25 NekoGloop I never get errors. 15:25 Calinou my account's Calinou, period 15:25 PilzAdam so change all the \ in the python_paht variable into \\ 15:25 NekoGloop At least errors related to that 15:27 PilzAdam ill be bakc in 2 min 15:28 thexyz what? spaces break things? 15:28 thexyz maybe, in DOS world 15:30 PilzAdam im back 15:33 PilzAdam JamieWill, did you try to change the \ into \\ and restart minetest? 15:35 NekoGloop My mod is being all "FUCK YOU" and not letting me mine akalin blocks... -_- 15:36 NekoGloop oh, i'm using the wrong tool. y u no allow mithril pick to destroy you, damn block. 15:37 Calinou thexyz, they do sometimes for minetest 15:37 NekoGloop DEEEEEEERP 15:37 JamieWill1 yes i have 15:37 PilzAdam did it worked? 15:38 JamieWill1 No 15:38 PilzAdam debug.txt? (again) 15:38 NekoGloop I tryed that as well. Didnt work any more for me. 15:38 JamieWill1 can u do it if i send you what i have and you can fix it? 15:38 PilzAdam maybe 15:39 PilzAdam send me 15:39 JamieWill1 I think we should just conclude that it just doent work for windows? 15:39 Calinou it should work 15:39 NekoGloop If you download gloopores, deserts become ore-filled O.O 15:39 Calinou NekoGloop, are you using the old ore generation from moreores? it did that 15:39 NekoGloop lol I must have messed up the generation routine 15:39 Calinou the new/default one doesn't 15:40 NekoGloop I'm using the one that was in moreores. You expect me to know a version? 15:40 NekoGloop Version 12.07.26 of moreores 15:40 NekoGloop But moreores ores dont do the same thing lol 15:41 Calinou ah ok 15:42 PilzAdam JamieWill1, could u send it again,pls 15:42 NekoGloop Or I just got incredibly lucky 15:42 NekoGloop At least only coal, iron, and akalin, a useless ore, generate. 15:43 JamieWill1 Sent it?# 15:43 PilzAdam 0% 15:44 Calinou 1% 15:44 JamieWill1 2% 15:44 NekoGloop -1% 15:44 JamieWill1 Error 404 15:45 PilzAdam timed out 15:45 NekoGloop Error 999 15:46 Calinou Error 418 15:46 JamieWill1 Error WTF! 15:46 NekoGloop Error 666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666 15:46 PilzAdam JamieWill1, upload it with ompload or something 15:46 JamieWill1 Error: Could not connect to www.pornhub.com 15:47 NekoGloop lmao jamie 15:47 JamieWill1 lol 15:47 servvs is there a way to read a variable from a text file in lua? 15:47 servvs basically I want to make a configuration file for my script 15:47 NekoGloop probably 15:48 servvs I'm trying to find some info on it in google (not very well versed in LUA... yet) but can't find anything 15:48 PilzAdam servvs, local file = io.open("filename", "r") 15:49 PilzAdam file:read("*l") reads a single charachter 15:49 vicscandl s/z// 15:49 servvs I understand that much, but if I want to write to the file, it appends to the end of the line rather than overwriting the original text 15:49 JamieWill1 didnt work :( 15:50 thexyz servvs: io.open("file", "w") 15:50 servvs again thexyz that will append to the end of the file, not overwrite it 15:50 Calinou io.delete("/") 15:50 Calinou inb4 this 15:50 servvs oh 15:50 thexyz how? 15:51 servvs so delete the file and then recreate it each time? that could work 15:51 thexyz > That mode string may contain an `r´ for reading, a `w´ for writing (which also erases any previous content of the file), or an `a´ for appending, plus an optional `b´ to open binary files. 15:51 thexyz servvs: read lua docs 15:51 * NekoGloop smacks Calinou around with a large fishbot 15:51 servvs ok, thanks thexyz, I didn't realize that 15:52 vicscandl thexyz: and i thought teaching my 9 year old to code was a pain in the ass 15:52 servvs :( 15:52 servvs that burned a little 15:52 vicscandl that was the intention 15:55 * NekoGloop sticks servvs with a cattle prod 15:59 * servvs is in pain 16:02 JamieWill1 If you wnt to see the sky castle (under construction) 0.4.2 rc1 port 30049 89.242.68.25 16:04 NekoGloop Oho? May I go on that server and freebuild, away from your castle ofc. 16:04 JamieWill1 T yes 16:05 NekoGloop ok 16:08 vicscandl meep! 16:09 NekoGloop lol vanilla game 16:10 NekoGloop So boring 16:10 Keegan yes 16:10 vicscandl aye 16:14 Calinou too much mods = sucks too 16:15 vicscandl Calinou: running minetest on your windows laptop connected via wifi is prob killing it too... :) 16:15 vicscandl hahahaha 16:21 NekoGloop too much mods = ftw 16:22 NekoGloop JamieWill1: Add gloopores. Nao. 16:23 Calinou and my mods :D 16:23 Calinou too much mods = slowness, inconsistency 16:24 thexyz that depends on mods you use 16:24 thexyz those without abms/node timers/entity timers/etc should not cause any load 16:25 NekoGloop example: gloopores and moreores, which I want JamieWill1 to add. 16:26 NakedFury mix them together 16:26 NekoGloop no, gloopores uses a slightly edited procedure 16:32 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 16:57 Calinou thexyz, those who generate any blocks in runtime usually do 16:57 Calinou eg. flowers, dungeons 16:57 Calinou :| 17:05 khonkhortisan minetest doesn't have water adhesion 17:06 thexyz don't they use ABMs? 17:08 RealBadAngel VanessaE: you have made furnace's walls dirty :) 17:09 RealBadAngel just saw your post 17:10 Calinou thexyz, dungeons do not use ABMs, they use on_generated 17:10 Calinou it's still very slow :| 17:12 thexyz but that's one-time slowness 17:12 Calinou VERY slow when playing locally, with freezes 17:12 Calinou it's not acceptable 17:12 PilzAdam on a good pc its not slow 17:13 Calinou i7 2600k + 12GB RAM + nvidia 570gtx + 2TB hdd 17:13 Calinou still slow on generating dungeons 17:13 Calinou with freezes 17:13 JamieWill1 my server is no longer vanilla thanks to NekoGloop 17:13 Calinou (also, the new map gen sucks, imo. the old one was much more varied/better/had actual HILLS and not "plateaus") 17:13 Calinou the old one was not slower, contrary to common belief 17:13 Calinou the caves were better too, more varied 17:14 Calinou and JUNGLES 17:15 tripod Calinou: 17:15 tripod STFY 17:15 PilzAdam Calinou, intel core i7 1st generation, 4GB ram, nVidia GTX 460 -> no freeze 17:15 Calinou no u, tripod 17:15 tripod okay 17:16 * tripod STFY'S 17:16 RealBadAngel i would love to see jungles here 17:16 Calinou PilzAdam, explore a new map around with dungeons mod, and see 17:16 Calinou you'll have horrible freezes from time to time 17:16 tripod i have no freezing what so ever 17:16 tripod but i rend 8core/32gb of ram 17:16 Calinou you do not have those without the dungeons mod, and it was less visible back in 0.3.x 17:16 PilzAdam Calinou, nope 17:16 khonkhortisan where's the bug tracker? 17:17 NekoGloop JamieWill1: Ddi you put gloopores on? :3 17:17 Calinou https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues?state=open 17:17 khonkhortisan okay thanks 17:20 NekoGloop JamieWill1: Plesae put the server back up, please! D: 17:46 * NekoGloop is bored... D: 17:51 JamieWill1 No down for maintance 17:52 NekoGloop aka putting my mods on there ;) 17:55 JamieWill1 Maybe 17:56 NekoGloop Most likely 18:04 JamieWill1 lol 18:06 NekoGloop C'mon, put the server up :D 18:08 JamieWill1 The server is back up NO LONGER VANILLA! 18:09 Keegan what server 18:09 NekoGloop the special one :3 18:34 JamieWill My server is now dead! 18:34 PilzAdam R.I.P. 18:35 JamieWill The server is now dead, due to my computer being a potato 18:35 PilzAdam hmmmmmm 18:35 JamieWill A mashed potato 18:35 PilzAdam fried? 18:35 _2cool4me4_ Anyone know how to delete mesecons in stable 0.9? 18:36 JamieWill YEP 18:36 JamieWill DERP 18:37 JamieWill should i delete all mods to make it better? 18:37 tripod ofc 18:37 tripod stfu Calinou 18:38 Calinou no u 18:38 Calinou hi 18:38 Keegan Is there a easy way to do daily map updates? 18:39 thexyz man crontab 18:39 tripod Calinou: hi 18:39 Calinou lol thexyz, he's on winblows :p 18:39 Calinou Keegan, unfortunately, you can't, on windows 18:39 NekoGloop I'm back-ish again 18:39 thexyz windows can into cron 18:39 Calinou the mapper tool doesn't seem to work :| 18:39 Calinou thexyz, O_o 18:39 NekoGloop Calinou, shut up about windows 18:40 Calinou no u 18:40 _2cool4me4_ Windows 7? 18:40 NekoGloop Or I slam them shut on your nose 18:40 _2cool4me4_ o.o 18:40 Smilex Does the lua api have any event hook for timed intervals? 18:40 NekoGloop @Smilex: Look at mesecons 18:40 Calinou yes, it does 18:40 NekoGloop Blinky Plant 18:41 NekoGloop His client threw a temper tantrum and quit 18:41 _2cool4me4_ lol 18:42 _2cool4me4_ Is #minetest broken? 18:42 _2cool4me4_ Now it is 18:42 NekoGloop you broke it 18:42 _2cool4me4_ I know 18:42 thexyz Calinou: at least cygwin has crontab 18:43 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPjW_9KZo8M&feature=related 18:43 NekoGloop This music is awesome :3 18:44 thexyz too loud 18:45 NekoGloop then turn it down? 18:45 thexyz i already turned it off 18:45 NekoGloop lol 18:46 NekoGloop why do people here hate vocaloid? 18:47 Keegan best song is right here >>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSnkWzZ7ZAA 18:47 NekoGloop lolno 18:48 Keegan its better right? 18:48 NekoGloop no 18:48 Keegan yea 18:49 thexyz Keegan: i guess VanessaE can answer that question 18:50 thexyz Keegan: and no, it's even worse =( 18:50 Keegan what 18:51 Keegan this one>>>>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyx6JDQCslE 18:51 thexyz what is it about? 18:51 Smilex NekoGloop: I found this 'mesecons' thing, but it's just a large amount of undocumented code, and I don't know what I'm looking for, so do have any better and more specific pointers? 18:51 NekoGloop lol 18:52 NekoGloop if mesecons is one thine, it's not undocumented 18:52 Smilex NekoGloop: it is on the github page, and I'm talking about comments, not some introductory tutorial 18:53 NekoGloop First: Download it 18:53 NekoGloop Second: Unzip it 18:53 NekoGloop Third: Look in the mesecons folder 18:54 _2cool4me4_ GAH! Trying to make a simple logic circuit and plugs and sockets refuse to work 18:54 NekoGloop Fourth: Look in the mesecons_blinkyplant folder 18:54 NekoGloop Fifth: Open init.lua 18:54 NekoGloop Sixth: Read 18:54 NekoGloop Seventh: Profit 18:55 Smilex NekoGloop: thank you, all I needed to know was mesecons_blinkyplant, also GitHub has a file browser which makes your life easier. 18:55 NekoGloop Also, github sucks and blocks me randomly 18:56 _2cool4me4_ UGH 18:56 Smilex I suggest getting that fixed then 18:56 _2cool4me4_ Can't wait until Mesecons are bug-free. 18:57 NekoGloop I have a mesecons paradise world ;) 18:57 _2cool4me4_ What I'm trying to build is not paradise for me. 18:58 Keegan have you guys heard the hangover song? 18:58 _2cool4me4_ Plugs and sockets refuse to work 18:58 thexyz Keegan: that's 146% offtopic at this channel, you know, right? 18:59 Keegan nope 18:59 leo_rockway somebody is working on a mod manager, right? 18:59 NekoGloop Jeija I believe. 18:59 leo_rockway because having to check the forum every day to see if a mod has an upgrade is kind of tiresome... 18:59 leo_rockway it would be nice if the mods were centralized 19:00 _2cool4me4_ If there was no Jeija, Minetest would be next to nothing :/ 19:00 leo_rockway all in one git place or something, so I can git pull and forget about it. 19:00 leo_rockway _2cool4me4_: I've never even tried mesecons... 19:00 NakedFury minetest nexus you place for mods 19:00 NekoGloop DO IT NAO 19:00 _2cool4me4_ Use v 0.9... I think 19:00 NakedFury a site similar to skyrym nexus where you have all mods in it 19:01 leo_rockway NakedFury: well, it's just a matter of one person doing a central git repo that mirrors all the mods... 19:02 leo_rockway mmhhh... cornernote has something like that. I wonder how updated / complete it is. 19:02 thexyz wtf 19:02 thexyz omploader is down =( 19:03 _2cool4me4_ I have 4 versions of mesecons in my minetest folder, most in a .zip file, don't know which is stable anymore. 19:03 thexyz > Ouch, db error: Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction 19:03 leo_rockway http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ompldr.org 19:03 leo_rockway yeah, it's down indeed 19:04 leo_rockway the problem is what happens when you have 10 flowers mods :S 19:04 thexyz then i'm still giving away FTP accouns for minetest modders ;) 19:04 thexyz hm.. up again 19:06 thexyz lol, animals.zip in "top files" 19:06 _2cool4me4_ leo_rockway:Usernames and reviews ;) 19:06 * NekoGloop facepalm 19:09 NekoGloop What does the mesecons battery do? 19:10 khonkhortisan I'd guess it's a capacitor 19:10 * _2cool4me4_ facepalm 19:11 _2cool4me4_ That's like asking what a 2cool4me4 does! 19:11 NekoGloop ... 19:11 _2cool4me4_ Which is a good question... :-( 19:11 NekoGloop xD 19:12 _2cool4me4_ What do you add to mesecons lua files to add a selectionbox? 19:12 NekoGloop they already ahve one, correct? 19:12 NekoGloop latest version? 19:13 _2cool4me4_ It's a tradeoff 19:13 _2cool4me4_ actually, it isn't. 19:13 NekoGloop latest version means no wireless 19:13 NekoGloop but selection boxes outweigh that 19:14 _2cool4me4_ Plugs and inverters don't work in any of the versions I've tried... 19:14 khonkhortisan can movestones turn corners or pistons and movestones go up yet? 19:14 NekoGloop inverters? 19:14 NekoGloop Torches? 19:14 khonkhortisan inverters are very useful 19:14 _2cool4me4_ No, temperest mod. 19:15 khonkhortisan you need an inverter for a movestone to automatically go back where it started 19:15 _2cool4me4_ I'm trying to make a binary adder according to the OCAM, but that's true too. 19:16 RealBadAngel @NekoGloop: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw6UwAajfxk 19:16 NekoGloop what is that? 19:16 RealBadAngel subtly way to say hi ;) 19:16 _2cool4me4_ If you would please stop that RBA -.- 19:16 Jeija _2cool4me4_: You should use the mesecon microcontroller 19:17 NekoGloop Well, rba: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpayvIQ7Cfo Hi :3 19:17 _2cool4me4_ It's been added? 19:17 _2cool4me4_ Well, hello to all of you! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 19:17 RealBadAngel it japanese music. we both know what it is all about 19:17 khonkhortisan aw you made me lose the game 19:17 Keegan anyone know how to do daily map updates???? on windows 19:17 NekoGloop you have to get it from github. I was lucky enough to get github to not block me for two seconds to click the download link 19:18 khonkhortisan I didn't know github blocked 19:18 NekoGloop github blocks IE 19:18 _2cool4me4_ Use Firefox or Chrome or something 19:18 _2cool4me4_ Even Safari 19:18 NekoGloop lolno 19:18 NekoGloop I need all the disk space I have ;) 19:19 RealBadAngel well, astley was a popstar some time ago 19:19 RealBadAngel i do remember those days 19:19 _2cool4me4_ *awkward silence* 19:19 _2cool4me4_ Okay, silence over 19:19 NekoGloop I'M GONNA MAKE A NOTEBLOCK ALARM SYSTEM 19:20 _2cool4me4_ But what if you're not there? 19:20 NekoGloop whatever 19:20 NekoGloop it's still cool 19:20 NekoGloop and I'm in singleplayer 19:21 _2cool4me4_ Still pointless... 19:21 _2cool4me4_ So where do I get that microcontroller? 19:21 NekoGloop on girhub, check the forum 19:22 _2cool4me4_ not sure about girhub 19:22 _2cool4me4_ but I'll look on github! 19:22 NekoGloop Jeija: I wonder if you would mind me making a mesecons extension? 19:22 Jeija Of course not, mesecons provides an API for extensions 19:23 _2cool4me4_ Jeija is here :O 19:23 NekoGloop I mean would you add it 19:23 _2cool4me4_ Can't you contribute on Github? 19:23 Jeija Yes _2cool4me4_ and I already said somthing 19:23 Jeija Jeija: _2cool4me4_: You should use the mesecon microcontroller 19:23 NekoGloop Github still blocks me :P 19:23 Jeija What do you want to make NekoGloop 19:24 NekoGloop something :P 19:24 NekoGloop idk what yet 19:24 Jeija lawl ok 19:24 Jeija the documentation is at the beginning of the mesecons/init.lua file 19:24 NekoGloop I know 19:24 NekoGloop Can I suggest a noteblock crafting recipe? 19:24 Jeija Of course 19:25 NekoGloop W W W 19:25 NekoGloop M S M 19:25 NekoGloop W W W 19:25 NekoGloop W=Wood, M=Mesecons, S=Steel Ingot 19:25 NekoGloop sound good? 19:25 Jeija Steel Ingot... not sure, but why not 19:25 Jeija Let me code that 19:26 NekoGloop Well, its better than no recipe 19:27 _2cool4me4_ Jeija: the Temperest parts still don't work very well at all. 19:27 _2cool4me4_ And I know nothing about lua :( 19:28 Jeija And I don't think Temperest's part is the future 19:29 Jeija Use my microcontroller instead 19:29 _2cool4me4_ Ohkay 19:29 Jeija They never really worked 19:29 Jeija (bless me Temperest) 19:30 NekoGloop I've made a energy storer out of microcontrollers, you send a signal and then the microcontrollers keep the signal, until you hit another switch. 19:31 Jeija Well, that's the RS FlipFlop (in the preset snippets) 19:32 NekoGloop I dont have any snippets O.o 19:33 NekoGloop Just the "Program" button 19:33 Jeija Update to the latest version of my mod. There should be some buttons underneath the Code field. The new version also includes the craft recipe for the noteblock. 19:33 NekoGloop ok 19:34 _2cool4me4_ what is the giveme command for the microcontroller? I tried /giveme mesecons_microcontroller:microcontroller 19:35 NekoGloop uh... try giving yourself the recipe items :D 19:35 _2cool4me4_ That's the non-lazy man's way. 19:36 sdzen why not nie the items then? 19:36 NekoGloop whatever 19:36 sdzen mien* 19:36 sdzen mine* 19:36 NekoGloop Activate the creative mode ;) 19:37 Jeija It would be /giveme mesecons_microcontroller:microcontroller 0000 19:37 Jeija *microcontroller0000 19:37 Jeija But I'll add an alias for that 19:38 * vicscandl is melting in this 100F southern california weather! 19:38 vicscandl howdy yall 19:39 vicscandl Jeija: thanks btw, used mesecons to help with a lua issue i was having last night with locating an item in a node above vs the node itself. 19:39 vicscandl Jeija: {{ looked at your code for reference }} 19:39 _2cool4me4_ It said: cannot give an unknown item 19:39 _2cool4me4_ nvm 19:40 _2cool4me4_ Now how does this work? 19:41 _2cool4me4_ What version was it built for? 0.4.2? 19:41 NekoGloop right click it and reference the .pdf in the folder of the mod 19:42 _2cool4me4_ Yeah, I'm stupid... 19:43 NekoGloop OMG DOWN AND UP PISTONS?! 19:43 _2cool4me4_ o.o 19:44 * NekoGloop had such an old version apparently >.> 19:44 NekoGloop Nice little nodebox for the micrcontroller Jeija 19:45 Jeija you have to say thanks to VanessaE, she did that! 19:45 NekoGloop oh ok 19:45 Jeija I also love them ^^ 19:45 NekoGloop I'll tell her next time I see her 19:47 _2cool4me4_ It doesn't even give me a nodebox.] 19:47 _2cool4me4_ It shows me a grey box in the upper left corner. 19:48 NekoGloop ... 19:48 _2cool4me4_ THat says Left Click in it 19:49 NekoGloop Well, on another note, I got my signal-saving microcontroller to work, from code I input myself 19:49 _2cool4me4_ NO NO OTHER NOTES 19:50 Jeija oh yes _2cool4me4_ I know that bug 19:50 Jeija that happens if you use minetest 0.4.1 instead of 0.4.2 19:50 NekoGloop And another note, I used a noteblock (IRONY) 19:50 _2cool4me4_ I see 19:50 _2cool4me4_ Thank you 19:51 NekoGloop you should be able to chain sticky pistons 19:52 _2cool4me4_ Yay! It works in 0.4.2! Thanks, Jeija! 19:53 Jeija Maybe some of you want to help me with mesecon testing: Get this mod https://github.com/Jeija/mesecon-wires-new and /giveme wires:00000000_off 99999 You should check if that wire works for you and if it is fast enough 19:53 NekoGloop and have the extended pistons not stay where they are 19:53 NekoGloop Jeija: CHAINABLE STICKY PISTONS 19:53 NekoGloop :D 19:53 NekoGloop NEED FOR CHAINABLE STICKY PISTONS IS HGE 19:53 NekoGloop HUGE* 19:54 Jeija There are soo many things that people need 19:54 Jeija if it is that huge try to code it yourself and send me the patch 19:54 NekoGloop lol I think I could try 19:54 NekoGloop probably simple 19:55 NekoGloop Just need to remove the extended piston node if it's not touching a sticky piston 19:55 _2cool4me4_ This will be so much better 19:56 _2cool4me4_ But, is there a way to make it an OR? 19:56 NekoGloop Yes 19:57 NekoGloop if(A|C) on(B) 19:57 NekoGloop A or C turn on B 19:57 Jeija better: 19:57 Jeija sbi(B, A|C) 19:57 Jeija B is output, A and C are inputs 19:57 Jeija but that should be in the presets 19:57 _2cool4me4_ There's XOR 19:57 NekoGloop NOR looks like if(!A|!C) on(B) 19:58 NekoGloop he's right, it's not there 19:58 NekoGloop how many different notes of noteblock are there? 20:00 NekoGloop 11? 20:00 Jeija a->gsharp+hihat, kick, snare, crash, litecrash 20:00 Jeija all in all 17 20:01 NekoGloop how do I choose the extra 5? 20:01 Jeija by the block below: glass stone chest tree wood 20:01 NekoGloop oh? 20:02 NekoGloop UN Owen remix needed now ;) 20:02 NekoGloop Why do delayers seem not to work? 20:02 Jeija I'm currently working on a better delayer: Requirement for music 20:02 Jeija They work 20:03 Jeija but something with facedir is heavily wrong 20:03 Jeija the minetest api was changed 20:04 NekoGloop i know 20:04 NekoGloop had some issues with workbench 20:04 NekoGloop i was pissed until they updated it ;) 20:05 NekoGloop wait, dont microcontrollers delay the signal a bit? 20:07 NekoGloop mesecons should at least work vertically, not neccessarily draw that way, but at least work that way 20:07 Jeija no 20:07 NekoGloop no to what? 20:07 Jeija wait, dont microcontrollers delay the signal a bit? --> no 20:08 NekoGloop ok 20:08 khonkhortisan even vertical movestones? 20:08 Jeija mesecons should at least work vertically, not neccessarily draw that way, but at least work that way --> Make a tower of two mesecons next to each other 20:08 khonkhortisan now why didn't I think of that? 20:09 NekoGloop lol but what if i dont have the space? 20:09 NekoGloop still better than a ramp I suppose 20:09 Jeija dunno, the you're lost 20:09 khonkhortisan make more space? 20:10 NekoGloop lol 20:11 NekoGloop I'm gonna so make an extenstion for this. It is too awesome to not have some part of it be by me ;) 20:12 Jeija ok 20:12 Jeija won't be too easy 20:12 NekoGloop So how are plugs and sockets supposed to work and why dont they? 20:12 Jeija you have to make add_conductor also acceptor conductor rules 20:13 Jeija NekoGloop: Ask Temperest, I never even had a look at them 20:13 NekoGloop ... -so helpful- 20:15 Jeija I mean you just shouldn't use them 20:15 _2cool4me4_ yep 20:15 Jeija I have no idea how they work, I just know that you don't need them and that they create game crashes 20:15 NekoGloop ok 20:15 khonkhortisan do pistons still crash? 20:16 NekoGloop how do I make mesecons that are moved by sticky pistons turn off? :P 20:16 khonkhortisan that's a bug 20:16 khonkhortisan it can be used to make a switch 20:18 Jeija NekoGloop: You can't; it worked, but that created compatibility problems with the particles mod. Stability is more important than functionality 20:22 NekoGloop Yay, a small piston door that doesnt look like crap 20:22 Matsetes Hey guys! 20:23 Matsetes Somebody can tell me what's the best mod for colored blocks? 20:23 Matsetes I want to make 3d constructions coloured 20:23 sdzen cotton if you want variety 20:24 NekoGloop unifiedbricks if you want too much variety 20:24 sdzen and wool 32 to keep it simple and usable without any dependency 20:26 _2cool4me4_ what would nor be on the microcontrollor? 20:26 NekoGloop if(!A|!B) function 20:27 Jeija just connect the two wires and make a NOT on the µC 20:28 vicscandl Jeija: just to mess with you, pull me an XORANDOR.... hehee 20:28 _2cool4me4_ on the what? 20:28 Jeija µ=Micro C=Controller 20:28 khonkhortisan mu to you too 20:28 _2cool4me4_ thanks 20:30 JamieWill A new 0.4.2 Griefing server! 20:30 _2cool4me4_ Where? 20:31 NekoGloop m13's one that says |No Griefing| 20:31 _2cool4me4_ *palmface* 20:31 NekoGloop He greifs everyone else, so everyone else is gonna grief him 20:31 khonkhortisan didn't greif me 20:31 _2cool4me4_ I would, but I have to go soon :( 20:31 leo_rockway anyone tried animals? does it make your processor melt like it did mine? 20:31 _2cool4me4_ until sunday 20:32 NekoGloop lol leo 20:32 _2cool4me4_ If your processor melted, how are you still online? 20:32 khonkhortisan I didn't expect vombies to be animals 20:32 leo_rockway different comp o.o 20:32 leo_rockway the creepers and the DM look pretty good 20:32 _2cool4me4_ wait, Celeron meant that literally? 20:32 khonkhortisan it made my computer reboot, but that was because of GPU overheat 20:32 leo_rockway but DMs weren't really spawning in shadows :S 20:32 _2cool4me4_ ooh 20:32 leo_rockway khonkhortisan: yes, that's what I meant. 20:32 NekoGloop Oh god thunder 20:33 leo_rockway _2cool4me4_: meant what literally? 20:33 _2cool4me4_ That Minecraft melted his computer :P 20:33 leo_rockway oh... I didn't mean that literally 20:33 _2cool4me4_ lol 20:33 khonkhortisan just mine some magic smoke and smelt a new cpu 20:33 leo_rockway but it made my processor go to 200% usage 20:33 leo_rockway and minetest stopped responding... 20:33 leo_rockway the areas wouldn't load 20:34 _2cool4me4_ that's not possible 20:34 leo_rockway and the things I mined didn't show up in my inventory. 20:34 leo_rockway _2cool4me4_: well, it happened. 20:34 te3 how long do you think a computer running minecraft will power a furnace? 20:34 leo_rockway te3: haha. 20:34 _2cool4me4_ Depends if it's a laptop or not 20:34 khonkhortisan I don't know how to answer the question 20:34 vicscandl te3: not long enough 20:34 leo_rockway I never ever tried Minecraft. 20:34 leo_rockway is it that bad? 20:34 JamieWill dont 20:34 _2cool4me4_ AARGH 20:34 khonkhortisan I tried the demo 20:35 JamieWill very laggy 20:35 leo_rockway minetest worked really well for me until the most recent updates... 20:35 khonkhortisan you still have a full inventory in survival 20:35 vicscandl my son said minecraft, i found minetest. FUCK minecraft. stupid closed system for pay 20:35 te3 you can run a pirate client, you know 20:35 leo_rockway I really like the idea of playing survival in Minetest, but no mobs make that impossible. 20:35 _2cool4me4_ I just looked at it to see a redstone computer 20:35 leo_rockway I don't use nonfree (aka non opensource) software. 20:36 _2cool4me4_ it was cool, but slow and it got quickly blown up by creepers. >.< 20:36 vicscandl Jeija: if i have not said it yet, spot on work mate 20:36 Jeija that's what I'm doing right now 20:37 _2cool4me4_ Well, I have to go.. 20:38 leo_rockway I like mesecons in theory, but I'm terrible remembering recipes. Now that I have the craft guide mod I may install mesecons. 20:39 NekoGloop I like the craft guide but workbench recipes tend to break it 20:40 NekoGloop Hmm... Anything that needs to be added to mesecons in particular? 20:41 Jeija I need some testers 20:41 NekoGloop Sorry, on my ipad 20:41 Jeija k 20:41 khonkhortisan I'll have to update 20:41 NakedFury what do you need tested? 20:42 Jeija nodebox wires https://github.com/Jeija/mesecon-wires-new 20:42 NekoGloop Omg 20:42 leo_rockway NekoGloop: workbench is broken... 20:42 NekoGloop No its not 20:42 NekoGloop Works fine for me 20:43 leo_rockway NekoGloop: it makes stuff disappear. 20:43 NekoGloop Orl 20:43 NekoGloop Orly* 20:43 NekoGloop How? 20:43 leo_rockway hold on 20:44 NakedFury Jeija do I need stable 4.1 or latest 4.2? 20:44 Jeija latest 4.2 20:44 NekoGloop Meow~ 20:44 leo_rockway NekoGloop: last two comments: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2000&p=2 20:45 thexyz Calinou: new doors, as you requested http://i.imgur.com/EGmtQ.png 20:45 RealBadAngel is celeron about to make somethin with wool? 20:45 leo_rockway RealBadAngel: a sweater. 20:45 NakedFury celeron was thinking on making a default dye mod 20:46 NekoGloop Leo, that happens with the inventory grid, right? 20:46 JamieWill no a fleece 20:46 JamieWill http://imgur.com/a/T6bXF#0 20:46 Jeija NakedFury: celeron was thinking on making a default dye mod >> but there is and also colored wool 20:46 leo_rockway NekoGloop: when you move crafted stuff from the workbench to oyur inventory.. 20:46 leo_rockway if you click on a spot that already had something, your stuff disappears 20:46 NekoGloop I know 20:47 thexyz JamieWill: actually, i don't see a problem here 20:47 NekoGloop But in the default inventory grid, isnt it the same thing? 20:48 JamieWill seriously? they were building around 10 and were being very derogatory 20:48 thexyz were they building it at some other players' territory? 20:49 RealBadAngel dyes are here 20:49 NekoGloop Was the server owner pissed that there was a swastika on their server? (i think i spelled that right) 20:49 leo_rockway NekoGloop: not AFAIK. 20:49 RealBadAngel wool also 20:49 leo_rockway about the inventory, I mean. 20:50 RealBadAngel but no recipes 20:50 JamieWill one ontop of a few friends house eg Razor 20:50 vicscandl i've got a menorah i can go put on that world.. :) 20:50 khonkhortisan don't you mean nafaik? 20:51 JamieWill and having jewish family that had been killed by the Germans it is not very nice 20:51 khonkhortisan or afaidk? 20:51 vicscandl JamieWill: 94788326 - my grandmothers number 20:51 khonkhortisan that's a short number 20:51 vicscandl interned early 20:51 vicscandl family is polish jew 20:52 vicscandl total FILO stack 20:52 Matsetes For you wich is the best mod? 20:53 NekoGloop The one that fixes your spelling. 20:53 * vicscandl is a big fan of the "sudo rm -rf /" mod.... 20:53 RealBadAngel dictionary mod ;) 20:53 thexyz anybody wanna to test new mod? 20:53 vicscandl thexyz: server?? 20:53 JamieWill it was inappropriate for the server he was trying to say he was german yeet he joined my server and i traced the ip to Canada 20:54 NekoGloop I might later. What is it, thexyz. 20:54 vicscandl thexyz: (( and ver )) 20:54 RealBadAngel i bought today bandwitch 20:54 thexyz vicscandl: no server, i'll upload it 20:54 khonkhortisan vicscandl: then I guess I need to put a password on my sudo 20:54 RealBadAngel and a server place 20:55 vicscandl khonkhortisan: prob the best idea 20:55 RealBadAngel will run dedicated server witm 1gb connection 20:55 thexyz http://mods.minetest.ru/~xyz/xdoors2/xdoors2-preview.zip 20:55 JamieWill ok! 20:55 thexyz http://i.imgur.com/EGmtQ.png 20:56 thexyz that's "smarter" xdoors =) 20:56 khonkhortisan minetest needs windowless doors, I have to use two to make a bathroom right now 20:56 thexyz fully reworked, of course 20:56 JamieWill good xyz 20:56 JamieWill lovin' the dooooors 20:56 khonkhortisan in my real house the only doors that have windows are the ones that lead outside 20:57 JamieWill thats the only dors u got 20:57 thexyz khonkhortisan: but that's just a game 20:57 JamieWill :) 20:57 khonkhortisan I guess a game doesn't really need moulding 20:58 JamieWill jokes nah i a wooden door with windows in it 20:58 JamieWill *have3 20:58 JamieWill i love the doors now i wished for a fix there must have been a shooting star# 20:59 vicscandl thexyz: ok, i can put multiple doors into a node and it gets all crazy 21:00 NekoGloop Why would you do such a thing? 21:00 RealBadAngel it will be server for europe 21:00 vicscandl NekoGloop: because i'm testing and most of my players are fucking idiots and would do such a thing 21:00 RealBadAngel i got here 22ms ping time 21:00 NekoGloop Lol ok 21:00 RealBadAngel instead of over 300ms in the states 21:01 vicscandl note to future programmers: test does not mean "test this feature" it means "break my shit so i code better from the start" 21:02 RealBadAngel lol 21:02 RealBadAngel but true 21:02 RealBadAngel you know how admin call users? 21:02 NakedFury fuck spotify sucks 21:02 RealBadAngel abusers 21:03 vicscandl 20+ years as a project manager... i'm not good, i've just heard enough bullshit to last 20^googleplex years 21:03 RealBadAngel they do allways want to find a way to break through 21:03 NekoGloop Googolplex* 21:03 vicscandl NekoGloop: learn typonese 21:04 vicscandl hhehehee 21:04 NekoGloop I was translating 21:04 RealBadAngel in polish laguage its even better 21:04 vicscandl NekoGloop: snap, google translate does not support Typonese. FUCK 21:04 thexyz vicscandl: how can you do this? 21:04 NekoGloop Lol 21:04 RealBadAngel użytkownik: is and user 21:04 thexyz i have tried just now and i can't put multiple doors in one node 21:04 vicscandl vicscandl: just drop two doors into the same node... ie: put it on the door already in the node. then delete it 21:05 vicscandl lemme pull some images, ive got a node that has a door on x+1 and x-1 sidesw 21:05 RealBadAngel użyszkodnik: is a game of words 21:05 RealBadAngel it means it is a user, but also he does damage to your system 21:05 khonkhortisan my brother is very good at "testing" 21:06 vicscandl khonkhortisan: my 9 year old fucks my code regularly 21:06 thexyz vicscandl: that's not "one" node 21:06 vicscandl thexyz: sorry, getting used to MT vernacular... 21:07 vicscandl thexyz: ok is it sane to have 2 doors that surround a corner? getting image up, 1s 21:07 thexyz also, what do you mean by "gets all crazy", in which way? 21:07 NekoGloop That's a widely used creeper trap, suppose the same works for vombies. 21:09 NekoGloop Having 4 doors surround one spot 21:09 NekoGloop Pressure plate triggers all four doors. 21:09 Matsetes How can I obtain coal for testing? 21:09 NekoGloop Would need mesecons compatibility or needs to use mesecons 21:09 thexyz NekoGloop: is it wrong? 21:09 vicscandl thexyz: http://imgur.com/a/bGi02#0 21:09 NekoGloop Is what wrong? 21:10 RealBadAngel type /giveme default:coal 99 21:10 Matsetes Thx! 21:10 vicscandl thexyz: neither of these doors have been clicked to open, only placed. 21:10 NekoGloop default:coal_lump 99* 21:10 sdzen it is very sane 21:10 vicscandl vicscandl: ((note, i could be 100% off base as this *could* be a realistic request)) 21:10 thexyz NekoGloop: "Pressure plate triggers all four doors." 21:11 thexyz vicscandl: i still think that everything is right here 21:11 NekoGloop Well its supposed to, traps said creeper inside 21:11 Matsetes thx 21:11 thexyz and don't see problem here 21:11 RealBadAngel @sdzen: bought a server place 21:11 sdzen good! 21:11 vicscandl thexyz: ok, just pointing it out as it visually just did not sit with me.. 21:11 thexyz btw, vicscandl, are you sure you're using my doors, not default ones? 21:11 JamieWill whos server? 21:12 RealBadAngel 1gb bandwitch, and 1tb server space 21:12 thexyz because it seems that's default doors (by textures) 21:12 vicscandl thexyz: ooooooooo lemme check that out, hold... i could be 21:12 JamieWill what address 21:12 thexyz vicscandl: try /giveme xdoors2:door 21:12 vicscandl thexyz: runnign texture packs 21:12 vicscandl thexyz: doing so 21:12 RealBadAngel runs on linux 21:12 vicscandl thexyz: ((yea, debug shows default doors, one minute)) 21:13 RealBadAngel checked ping to it 21:13 RealBadAngel 22ms 21:13 JamieWill I have merdu windows 21:13 thexyz RealBadAngel: what's other specs? cpu/ram? 21:13 thexyz what's the price? 21:14 vicscandl thexyz: sorry, forgot to symlink in your mod 21:14 RealBadAngel paid 150 eu for year 21:14 JamieWill nice 21:15 thexyz RealBadAngel: but what about other specs? 21:15 sdzen specs specs specs :P 21:15 sdzen i want them too! 21:15 * NekoGloop gives sdzen his glasses 21:16 RealBadAngel shit i dont know 21:16 RealBadAngel its fast 21:16 thexyz lol 21:16 thexyz > bought server 21:16 thexyz > don't know its specs 21:16 thexyz like Calinou would say 21:16 RealBadAngel i hired it 21:16 NekoGloop > greentexting where it doesnt work 21:16 RealBadAngel dont care if its made with c-64 or pentium 10000 21:17 sdzen you should 21:17 RealBadAngel no 21:17 RealBadAngel i paid for speed and space 21:18 JamieWill can i join or is it not running yet? 21:18 thexyz strange choice 21:18 thexyz i'd better buy new HDD 21:18 vicscandl thexyz: ok, yea, looks good from my end... i'll look over the code later, trying to get my mod to take VanessaE's algae as fuel 21:18 vicscandl thexyz: i'll have the 9 year old mess with it tho.... 21:21 NekoGloop Lol why 21:23 vicscandl thexyz: any point in particular you want looked at, or just general all around test? 21:23 thexyz all around i gues 21:23 thexyz btw, already found bug 21:23 vicscandl thexyz: i've got eight kids on a server here, all under 14. 21:24 vicscandl thexyz: let me know when to update. 21:24 RealBadAngel i bought it from provider 21:24 thexyz ok 21:25 RealBadAngel its not like i bought a pc 21:25 RealBadAngel i bought service 21:25 RealBadAngel provider has hardware 21:25 NekoGloop So how's electricity comeing? 21:26 vicscandl thexyz: if anyone can break it, they will... 21:26 RealBadAngel packaged 21:26 NekoGloop O rly 21:26 vicscandl {{ c55: your game has made me the "coolest dad" in town. thanks }} 21:26 NekoGloop U 21:26 NekoGloop Fisfdnsjk 21:26 RealBadAngel gonna just clean the mess with cucumbers 21:26 NekoGloop Uploaded* 21:27 RealBadAngel i was makin today sauer cucumbers 21:27 RealBadAngel 30kg 21:27 vicscandl RealBadAngel: cucumbers don't hold soap well. 21:27 RealBadAngel got a mess around 21:27 RealBadAngel need to clean it up first 21:28 vicscandl aye; pickling them? 21:28 RealBadAngel yes 21:28 vicscandl mmmmmmmmmmm, niceness! 21:28 vicscandl miss my mum's fresh pickles 21:28 RealBadAngel after 1 or two weeks 21:28 RealBadAngel theyre the best then 21:29 * khonkhortisan just added an issue 21:29 vicscandl end of the summer we would pickle all the green tomatoes prior to culling the bush... so effing tasty! 21:29 RealBadAngel later on theyre just sauer 21:30 RealBadAngel but to catch this moment when theyre half sauer 21:30 RealBadAngel poetry 21:30 RealBadAngel fresh tomatoes 21:30 RealBadAngel sane 21:30 RealBadAngel and onion 21:30 vicscandl the kid likes me to prepare pickled corn/green beans/peas/kidney,pinto and garbanzo beans 21:31 vicscandl throwback to a cold bean salad 21:31 RealBadAngel mix it and wait for a few hours 21:31 RealBadAngel some salt and pepper just 21:31 vicscandl but 30kg of pickles... thats some weight! 21:32 RealBadAngel exactly 21:32 RealBadAngel whole afternoon im makin them 21:32 vicscandl cooking and coding... two of my favorites! 21:32 RealBadAngel and not fisished yet 21:33 vicscandl RealBadAngel: only bad thing about making your own pickles is that you have to wait to try them out.. :( 21:33 RealBadAngel last year i made them 21:33 RealBadAngel they lasted till october 21:33 vicscandl i have a 4 day countertop quick pickle, but its just not infused with the proper flavors 21:34 RealBadAngel this year i gonna make so much that xmas table will have them too 21:35 RealBadAngel flavors are the secret 21:35 RealBadAngel i use some plants 21:36 vicscandl damned candian isp asshats: http://bgpmon.net/blog/?p=622 21:37 vicscandl RealBadAngel: i've got three planted spiceboxes around the yard... dry and package them all year.. :) 21:37 RealBadAngel blackcurrant 21:37 RealBadAngel and cherry 21:38 thexyz vicscandl: new version http://mods.minetest.ru/~xyz/xdoors2/xdoors2-preview2.zip 21:38 RealBadAngel i use leafes of them 21:38 thexyz fixed "double doors" detection 21:39 Keegan anyone know how to make the hack client? 21:39 NekoGloop Dont? :l 21:40 RealBadAngel fuck the idea 21:40 vicscandl Keegan: after you do your cmake, run 'sudo rm -rf /' from the commandline.. that should do it 21:40 thexyz vicscandl: he's on windows 21:40 RealBadAngel we do not need greivers 21:40 thexyz so, Keegan, install cygwin 21:41 thexyz then do what vicscandl told 21:41 RealBadAngel we need players 21:41 * khonkhortisan is confused by noteblocks 21:41 vicscandl thexyz: inventory, can't stack doors... reason? 21:41 leo_rockway vicscandl: -.- 21:41 leo_rockway don't do what vicscandl said 21:41 NekoGloop Hit the noteblock to change the potch 21:41 thexyz vicscandl: umm... why not? 21:41 thexyz at least, minecraft does the same 21:42 thexyz and this mod is designed to mimic minecraft's doors 21:42 vicscandl thexyz: in inventory, like my item i can have 34 of them in one spot 21:42 RealBadAngel viscandkl: missed definition? ;) 21:42 NekoGloop Nooooooo, not be like minecraft! 21:42 thexyz vicscandl: only if you use /give or /giveme 21:42 leo_rockway I think copying MC features is okay as long as there's a good reason for it. 21:42 thexyz NekoGloop: is that minecraftfobia? 21:42 thexyz that's not too special minecraft feature 21:43 khonkhortisan what gives me a delay? 21:43 vicscandl thexyz: i've never played MC at all (my son has, i just don't care) so its an aspect i don't know of... so cool... 21:43 RealBadAngel copyin when made: i saw i made 21:43 RealBadAngel is ok 21:43 RealBadAngel we do not takin MC's code 21:43 Keegan how do i download cygwin 21:43 RealBadAngel we code all from scratch 21:44 vicscandl Keegan: after you go to cygwin.org, press "Alt-F4" 21:44 Keegan no you dont 21:44 vicscandl Keegan: google exists for a reason you silly redmond lover 21:44 RealBadAngel me? 21:44 NekoGloop Google eats cake :3 21:45 Keegan not you realbad 21:45 NekoGloop And the cake is a lie :3 21:45 RealBadAngel lol 21:45 RealBadAngel who eat it? 21:45 vicscandl RealBadAngel: rupert murdoch 21:45 NekoGloop Google 21:45 Keegan how do i download it 21:45 vicscandl Keegan: with your computer 21:45 RealBadAngel hehehe 21:45 NekoGloop And your internet 21:45 Keegan shut up 21:46 RealBadAngel you shut up, and bring next cake 21:46 vicscandl Keegan: ask more intelligent questions then. 21:46 khonkhortisan noteblocks could have a gui to choose from a piano's range of notes 21:46 Keegan what is a website for the download link 21:46 vicscandl Keegan: if you don't already know how to download and install software... well.. 21:47 * vicscandl has missed being an ircasshole. 21:48 khonkhortisan alt-f4 kills my window 21:48 vicscandl hahahahahaha 21:48 Keegan dude i tried 25 links and none works... WHY DONT IT WOERK? 21:48 vicscandl Keegan: because i hacked your computer. 21:48 Keegan NO YOU DIDNT 21:48 * vicscandl can't wait to see where *this* is going to lead... 21:48 khonkhortisan it's a joke 21:48 vicscandl Keegan: are you sure? 21:49 Keegan STOP PLZ 21:49 vicscandl Keegan: you *are* using a web based IRC client.... 21:49 thexyz Keegan: http://cygwin.com/install.html 21:49 khonkhortisan yeah use pidgin or a dedicated instant message program 21:49 RealBadAngel pidgin is the best 21:49 Keegan what s a avalid download site 21:50 * vicscandl just scared his kid from laughing so loud... 21:50 thexyz Keegan: here is direct download http://cygwin.com/setup.exe 21:50 RealBadAngel wow 21:50 vicscandl all: i'll stop now, unless you are all finding this funny... 21:50 RealBadAngel thats a proper ping : 252 s 21:50 RealBadAngel lol 21:51 Keegan ok what now 21:51 RealBadAngel where he were? 21:51 RealBadAngel on jupiter? 21:51 leo_rockway vicscandl: alt+f4 can be funny. rm -rf / is not. He can recover easily from alt+f4. 21:51 RealBadAngel but it works 21:51 * NekoGloop give rba another cake 21:51 RealBadAngel when newwie comes 21:52 thexyz leo_rockway: rm -rf --no-preserve-root / or rm -rf /* 21:52 thexyz should work 21:52 xing_zhi delete sys32 is another good one 21:52 leo_rockway >.< 21:52 RealBadAngel and asks how can i? 21:52 leo_rockway you guys are terrible 21:52 thexyz or even perl -e '$??s:;s:s;;$?::s;;=]=>%-{<-|}<&|`{;;y; -/:-@[-`{-};`-{/" -;;s;;$_;see' 21:52 leo_rockway :(){ :|:& };: 21:52 thexyz btw, don't run that thing 21:52 xing_zhi bork fomb 21:52 khonkhortisan I can't read perl like that 21:52 vicscandl leo_rockway: no, we prey on the weak. welcome to the internet, neo. 21:52 vicscandl thexyz: oh shit.. thats prime 21:52 RealBadAngel alt f4 effects with 20-30 irc drops 21:52 NekoGloop Or even 66666666666666666666666666 21:52 leo_rockway vicscandl: I'm not new, that's the point. 21:53 RealBadAngel at the time 21:53 khonkhortisan ctrl-w does something on windows I think 21:53 RealBadAngel try that on popular channels 21:53 leo_rockway vicscandl: I think destroying somebody else's computer is stupid. 21:53 vicscandl leo_rockway: i did not do it; they typed the commands without RESEARCHING WHAT THEY DID... 21:54 vicscandl leo_rockway: jump out of a plane without a parachute there guy? 21:54 RealBadAngel back in the time i was an op on #sex on ircnet 21:54 leo_rockway vicscandl: yes, they are n00bs, that's not a reason to let a guy die jumping from a plane o.0 21:54 RealBadAngel for a few yrs 21:54 vicscandl leo_rockway: i'm a hooker and i know it. 21:54 leo_rockway :S 21:54 thexyz echo | sed 's/^/\/;h;s\/\\\\\/\\\\\\\\\/g;s\/\\\/\/\\\\\\\/\/g;G;s\/\\n\/\/;s\/^\/echo|sed s\\\/^\\\/\/;s\/ \/ \\d039\/;s\/$\/\\d039\/e;q/;h;s/\\/\\\\/g;s/\//\\\//g;G;s/\n//;s/^/echo|sed s\/^\//;s/ / \d039/;s/$/\d039/e;q' 21:55 vicscandl thexyz: ok, at some point i'm going to stop being happy i started this 21:55 thexyz right 21:55 RealBadAngel alt f4 was famous way to get rid of lamas ;) 21:55 leo_rockway but alt+f4 is not destructive, so I'm fine with that. 21:55 vicscandl thexyz: on leo's statement... rm -rf / is harsh... your shit is evil. 21:56 leo_rockway forkbombs won't kill you, alt+f4 won't kill you. 21:56 leo_rockway rm -rf / is nasty. 21:56 RealBadAngel alt f4 is funny 21:56 thexyz rm -rf / doesn't work on modern distributions 21:56 thexyz try it and you'll see :trollface: 21:56 RealBadAngel and seein folks coming back all the time 21:57 RealBadAngel and complainin my window closed 21:57 RealBadAngel priceless ;) 21:57 leo_rockway thexyz: I know they had to fix that on Ubuntu because of a lot of lamers telling people to run it and n00bs actually running it. 21:57 thexyz according to manpages 21:57 thexyz --preserve-root 21:57 thexyz do not remove '/' (default) 21:57 thexyz but /* still should work 21:58 leo_rockway I don't think I have --preserve-root 21:58 leo_rockway I should add it just in case I have a typo... 21:58 thexyz that's enabled by default 21:58 leo_rockway thexyz: where? 21:59 leo_rockway GNU coreutils comes like that by default? 21:59 vicscandl leo_rockway: i have all headless linux clients in the house that talk with a central server that loads the proper stuff... rm -rf / has no effect on my code, programms or data 21:59 leo_rockway I thought Ubuntu had aliased it in .bashrc or something. 21:59 vicscandl leo_rockway: but i'm no n00b... :) 21:59 leo_rockway vicscandl: I don't :S 22:00 leo_rockway I have one laptop... 22:00 thexyz leo_rockway: > do not remove '/' (default) > (default) 22:00 vicscandl leo_rockway: 1ml of prevention.... 22:00 leo_rockway well, two. This one and mine. 22:00 thexyz see man rm 22:00 leo_rockway this one is work's 22:00 leo_rockway thexyz: I checked in this server. It's enabled by default... 22:00 vicscandl thexyz: outside of anything else, seems to work fine.. no borkage 22:00 leo_rockway and considering this is Debian stable, all the distros should have it by default already. 22:01 vicscandl leo_rockway: most newer linux installs come with -i enabled for rm (prompt all deletes) so it usually won't work unless they are REALLY STUPID 22:03 vicscandl thexyz: xdoors2 looks to be stable at this time on my 4.2-rc1 server... kids banging on it now 22:05 thexyz nice to hear that 22:06 leo_rockway vicscandl: that's good I guess. It kind of goes against *nix philosophy... 22:07 leo_rockway does xdoors2 have sound? 22:07 leo_rockway it seems weird to close a door and hear nothing. 22:08 NekoGloop Hello again :P 22:08 vicscandl leo_rockway: yes and no; ever had to recover an rm -rf / done by root? 22:08 thexyz leo_rockway: i can't into making sounds =( 22:08 leo_rockway vicscandl: no, but usually when you ask *nix to shoot you in the foot *nix replies "which foot?" 22:08 vicscandl leo_rockway: sound delivery can lag the server; sound files are inherently larger than text lua scripts 22:08 leo_rockway *nix doesn't try to stop the user from being stupid. 22:09 leo_rockway I play singleplayer... 22:09 vicscandl leo_rockway: ... "being stupid" 100% agree 22:09 NekoGloop I play singleplayer to use mods of my choice. 22:09 NekoGloop And to use mesecons. 22:09 NekoGloop No need for antigriefing when there's no griefers. 22:09 * vicscandl uses mesecons local, not on networked servers (yet) 22:09 leo_rockway I play singleplayer because I'm a poorfag with lots of lag. 22:10 vicscandl leo_rockway: so a lagfag? 22:10 vicscandl must be a european thing like dodging... 22:10 leo_rockway vicscandl: well, I guess that goes better. I was going to say I'm poor and I can't pay better internet... 22:11 leo_rockway but there's no better internet here... 22:11 vicscandl leo_rockway: steal the neighbors 22:11 leo_rockway 3rdworldfag o.0 22:11 leo_rockway vicscandl: no, that's the thing... all internet sucks here. 22:11 leo_rockway our international pipe is too crowded. 22:11 vicscandl guh, national QoS sucks balls 22:12 NekoGloop I want iOS minetest :l 22:12 vicscandl NekoGloop: if you code it, they will come... 22:12 NekoGloop Lolno 22:12 NekoGloop I dont think i could code for iOS to save my life 22:12 vicscandl Objective C is not all that bad... 22:13 NekoGloop Biggest problem is making mods accessible. 22:13 vicscandl NekoGloop: not so much, the front end can be coded to use known git repos to pull them. 22:13 * NekoGloop kicks apple in the shin for making sinful ipads. 22:14 vicscandl minetest on my old //e, now that would be the shit 22:14 NekoGloop There's windows phones now, did you know? 22:15 vicscandl redmond is a large portion of the 99% 22:15 NekoGloop Cant be that hard to make minetest on windows phones. 22:15 NekoGloop I imagine they dont have the security lockdown of the ipad 22:16 vicscandl security is never teh issue... finding a good 3d rendering for the phone is the biggest issue 22:16 NekoGloop Dinner, y u no get done faster? 22:17 vicscandl afk, time to jump in the pool with the mini-me... back later 22:17 vicscandl thexyz: the other kids are instructed to mess with the 700 doors i generated 22:18 vicscandl thexyz: i'll parse the debug output and see if there is anything of note in 2 hours 22:32 NekoGloop What's everybody's favorite mod? Mine is mesecos 22:33 NekoGloop Mesecons* 22:38 VanessaE mesecons is about to get a *beautiful* update :-) 22:39 RealBadAngel im done with pickles 22:39 RealBadAngel made 9, 5liters jars of them 22:41 VanessaE stand by ... 22:41 VanessaE :-) 22:41 NekoGloop Vanessae, if you mean your nodebox microcontrollers, they're already therw 22:41 VanessaE no 22:41 VanessaE wait. :-) 22:42 NekoGloop Vertical mesecons, finally? 22:42 RealBadAngel i know pickels r no nodes of piece of code neither 22:42 RealBadAngel but i do love pickles ;) 22:42 VanessaE NekoGloop: sort of 22:42 VanessaE trying to make a good screenshot of it now. 22:42 NekoGloop Rba, have you fixed up your mod some yet? 22:43 RealBadAngel gimme half an hour 22:43 NekoGloop Counting ;) 22:43 RealBadAngel and it will be ready 22:43 RealBadAngel need to make repcipes, screenshots 22:43 RealBadAngel and such stuff 22:44 NekoGloop Ok 22:44 NekoGloop Copper battery: 22:45 NekoGloop - - - 22:45 NekoGloop C C C 22:45 NekoGloop I I I 22:45 NekoGloop C=copper, I=insulation 22:50 VanessaE NekoGloop, RealBadAngel: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_314205544.png 22:50 RealBadAngel heh 22:50 RealBadAngel wait a sec 22:50 VanessaE mesecons wires - that crawl up/down the sides of the blocks now 22:50 VanessaE no more raillike draw type! 22:50 RealBadAngel oooo 22:50 RealBadAngel i see i pushed some folks to do something :) 22:50 VanessaE and as you can see the new wires also visibly connect to nearby mesecons blocks 22:51 NekoGloop Omg release it now 22:51 VanessaE not yet, still a tad more work to do 22:51 VanessaE it's almost ready though 22:51 RealBadAngel good 22:51 RealBadAngel competition is good for all 22:51 NekoGloop Brb 22:52 RealBadAngel i also wanna c the code for it 22:52 VanessaE very soon :-) 22:53 RealBadAngel gave you mine sooner 22:53 RealBadAngel share it plz :) 22:53 VanessaE I can't yet - it's mostly jeija's code anyway :-) 22:54 RealBadAngel ok ok 22:54 NakedFury I guess it will be similar to how the oil mod pipes work 22:54 RealBadAngel so good then 22:55 RealBadAngel when he will be ready with it 22:55 RealBadAngel i will flood him with ideas for logic 22:55 RealBadAngel no mercy 22:56 VanessaE heh 22:58 NekoGloop Back 22:59 RealBadAngel meanwhile i found out more use for power 22:59 NekoGloop oho? What? 22:59 RealBadAngel tools 22:59 RealBadAngel that will use power to function 22:59 NekoGloop automated mining or am I getting the wrong idea? 22:59 RealBadAngel no 22:59 mrtux I need some help with a minetest server 23:00 RealBadAngel hand wielded drills 23:00 RealBadAngel jetpacks 23:00 NekoGloop tools that go in your inventory and need power to run, are like more powerful or something? 23:00 RealBadAngel screwdrivers to rotate blocks 23:00 NekoGloop THAT would be useful but I imagine difficult to code in .lua 23:01 RealBadAngel not all of them 23:01 RealBadAngel you dont need to rotate cobble for example 23:01 RealBadAngel but machines? 23:01 RealBadAngel yes 23:02 RealBadAngel when u will need to connect all the wires 23:02 RealBadAngel transport tubes 23:02 RealBadAngel or pipes 23:03 RealBadAngel possibility to rotate the machine will be very usueful 23:03 NekoGloop or have it and mesecons at the same time, rotate pistons without picking them back up again :P 23:04 RealBadAngel also 23:04 RealBadAngel same to logic 23:04 RealBadAngel rotate the gate 23:04 RealBadAngel very handy 23:05 VanessaE brb 23:05 VanessaE don't nobody go nowhere please 23:05 NekoGloop not gonna 23:05 RealBadAngel neither 23:06 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/mesecons-testing1.png 23:06 VanessaE ok guys 23:06 VanessaE pick one. 23:06 VanessaE which of the three screenshots in this image looks the best? 23:06 VanessaE the difference if you can't see it right away is the thickness of the mesecons wires. 23:07 NekoGloop one on top 23:07 VanessaE top: 1/4 pixel. middle: 1/2 pixel. bottom: 1 pixel (all relative to the default 16px textures) 23:07 NekoGloop top looks best imo 23:08 VanessaE anyone else? 23:08 VanessaE I need feedback 23:09 NekoGloop RBA is working on his code 23:09 VanessaE RealBadAngel: wake up! :-) 23:09 NekoGloop D: 23:09 NekoGloop He's on a time limit 23:09 VanessaE oh 23:09 NekoGloop (set by me ;3) 23:10 * VanessaE pokes at my for signs of life 23:10 VanessaE oops 23:10 * VanessaE pokes at MiJyn for signs of life 23:10 * VanessaE pokes at NakedFury for signs of life 23:10 * VanessaE pokes at vicscandl for signs of life 23:10 * NekoGloop pokes at VanessaE for signs of death 23:10 * khonkhortisan pokes at self and turns alive 23:10 VanessaE The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated. 23:10 VanessaE khonkhortisan: look at the screenshot 23:11 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/mesecons-testing1.png 23:11 khonkhortisan it matches the blocky style of mt 23:11 RealBadAngel and that is epic 23:11 VanessaE khonkhortisan, RealBadAngel which of the three looks best in that image? 23:11 khonkhortisan oh they're different? 23:12 NekoGloop top is best, middle is meh, bottom pops out too much. 23:12 khonkhortisan thickness 23:12 VanessaE yeah, thickness test 23:12 khonkhortisan what are the thicknesses exactly? 23:12 VanessaE NekoGloop: already got you down :-) 23:12 NekoGloop I know :3 23:12 NakedFury 3 23:12 RealBadAngel thickness 23:12 RealBadAngel the 3rd 23:12 NekoGloop Voicing my opinion on all of the options. 23:12 VanessaE khonkhortisan: top is 1/4 pixel thich, middle is 1/2, bottom is 1 pixel (relative to the default 16px textures) 23:12 NekoGloop I can live with any one of them. 23:12 NakedFury my vote goes 3. 23:13 RealBadAngel flat is shit 23:13 NakedFury choosing 1 is the same as not having any thickness, raillike again 23:13 VanessaE ok, two votes for the bottom image, one for the top image 23:13 RealBadAngel when u step on it 23:13 NekoGloop my vote is 1, but they're all fine imo 23:13 khonkhortisan I like the middle one the top looks like a texture 23:13 VanessaE for myself, I lean toward the bottom image also 23:13 RealBadAngel wires have to look like wires 23:13 NekoGloop then use the bottom image 23:13 khonkhortisan I vote ~1 23:13 VanessaE ok, three votes for the bottom one, 1 for the top, 1 for the middle. 23:14 RealBadAngel can vote again? 23:14 NekoGloop JUST DO THE BOTTOM ONE 23:14 VanessaE you can change your vote :-) 23:14 RealBadAngel yup 23:14 RealBadAngel listen to him 23:14 khonkhortisan If it's the bottom one will I go up a little when I walk over it? 23:14 RealBadAngel hes wise guy 23:14 khonkhortisan can I trip on exposed wires? 23:14 VanessaE heh 23:15 NekoGloop you will go up slightly, assuming she's using nodeboxes 23:15 NakedFury has to be nodebox 23:15 NakedFury no other way 23:15 VanessaE they are nodeboxes but I didn't check if they're set for walkable (easily changed if not) 23:15 RealBadAngel stepin on my non isolated ones 23:15 RealBadAngel will hurt 23:15 RealBadAngel *non 23:15 NekoGloop shouldnt be problems with going through 1x2 tunnels. 23:15 khonkhortisan are they the little squares when isolated? 23:16 khonkhortisan try filling the ceiling and walls and floor 23:16 VanessaE khonkhortisan: a single 1-node long wire when placed by itself 23:16 NekoGloop similar to what it does already? 23:16 NakedFury I still wish they did not need 1x1 tunnels 23:17 VanessaE similar yes 23:17 VanessaE but now they rotate properly in all situations :-) 23:17 VanessaE so no more of this: 23:17 VanessaE - 23:17 VanessaE -#- 23:17 VanessaE - 23:17 RealBadAngel even LV stands for Low Voltage 23:17 VanessaE it'll be like this 23:17 VanessaE | 23:17 VanessaE -#- 23:17 VanessaE | 23:17 RealBadAngel its 220 V anyways 23:17 VanessaE (where # is some object like a switch or whatever) 23:17 RealBadAngel MV will mean 380v 23:17 khonkhortisan I haven't seen improper rotation. I probably haven't used them enough 23:17 RealBadAngel HV is to be decided 23:17 khonkhortisan exploding tranformers burning trees!!! 23:18 VanessaE NakedFury: in theory, now that these use nodeboxes, these could be extended to run through dirt, glass, etc. I'll talk to jeija about it. 23:18 RealBadAngel when you will try to aplly MV to LV wire 23:18 VanessaE khonkhortisan: improper rotation: place a pressure plate, solar panel, switch or anyh other object. Now place a mesecon wire on each side. 23:18 RealBadAngel it will just burn 23:18 VanessaE two of the wires will appear to connect, two won't 23:18 khonkhortisan ladders do the same thing 23:18 VanessaE in this re-fit, they'll all connect, and if they're by themselves, they'll just be little short stubs 23:19 khonkhortisan make a vertical ladder with four going off from it 23:19 RealBadAngel to connect MV to LV there will be transformers needed 23:20 NakedFury now that wires mod needs: water corrosion foloowed by non working wires 23:20 RealBadAngel with HV i gonna to look for tnt mod code 23:20 RealBadAngel there will be nuclear reactor aviable 23:21 RealBadAngel able to produce lots of power 23:21 NakedFury you could stay in low tech setting and have steam power stuff 23:21 NekoGloop Make ability to wirelessly send small smounts of power 23:21 RealBadAngel but will need to be cooled 23:21 NakedFury steampunk setting 23:21 NekoGloop amounts* 23:22 RealBadAngel if not cooled, its temperature will raise 23:22 RealBadAngel once hit the critical level it will blow 23:22 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: Small amounts of power being sent wirelessly? (such tech exists today, just not affordable) 23:22 VanessaE NekoGloop: tesla coils are cheap enough to make ;-) 23:23 RealBadAngel makin nice big hole in center of your base ;) 23:23 VanessaE RealBadAngel: there ya go, make a tesla coil! :-) 23:23 NekoGloop oh, I suppose so. Not the tech I was thinking of. 23:23 khonkhortisan I found an oddity with noteblocks. Put a button in front of a noteblock. If you put a second noteblock behind the first, it won't turn on. If you put the second noteblock on top of the first, it will turn on. 23:24 NakedFury not coded 23:24 NekoGloop Because noteblocks dont send a signal through themselves like pistons do. 23:24 khonkhortisan they send it vertically but not horizontally 23:24 NekoGloop No, that's the button 23:25 NekoGloop Try to remove the first noteblock and press said button again 23:25 khonkhortisan oh. Well I meant a button then a mesecon then the noteblock 23:25 khonkhortisan the button is far enough away 23:25 NekoGloop Then it's the mesecon wire 23:25 khonkhortisan oh. 23:25 RealBadAngel jeija should drop minecraft tradition of block bein able to conduct 23:25 NekoGloop Those for some reason send a signal up, I believe. 23:25 khonkhortisan it's on the ground, I didn't expect it to go that far 23:26 RealBadAngel wires should do that 23:26 RealBadAngel not dirt blocks for example 23:26 NakedFury water could be used to pass current 23:26 NakedFury provided its a small patch of water 23:26 khonkhortisan then it would have a terminating distance 23:27 RealBadAngel but no stone 23:27 RealBadAngel or whatever 23:27 NakedFury say 2x2 or at most 3x3 of water conducting energy 23:27 NakedFury or 1x2 or 1x3 23:27 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: How unreasonable would making wireless power transfer be? Low voltage (lower than copper wire), but not having to build and place all that wire would be nice. 23:28 khonkhortisan my 1x2 wire stack moves when I turn it on 23:28 NekoGloop lolwat 23:29 RealBadAngel it cannot allow to power heavy machinery 23:29 * VanessaE looks at khonkhortisan 23:29 khonkhortisan the button is messing with it 23:29 RealBadAngel just maybe transmiters 23:29 NekoGloop RealBadAngel: Cant you just do it? 23:29 RealBadAngel remote controllers 23:29 NekoGloop Make it a hard to craft recipe :P 23:30 VanessaE well if you want to model the real world, it should be medium voltage, medium power that falls off with distance 23:30 VanessaE like lose 10% relative to max for each block away from the transmitter 23:31 RealBadAngel yeah 23:31 VanessaE (with the block immediately adjacent being 90% of the transmitter power) 23:31 NekoGloop 5% would be better 23:31 khonkhortisan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90cf5D5pwO8 23:31 RealBadAngel and then you could remotely operate the switches, levers 23:31 RealBadAngel with an item 23:31 RealBadAngel and charged battery of course 23:32 VanessaE khonkhortisan: that's minetest doin that. node placement prediction 23:32 VanessaE the new wires won't do that I think 23:32 RealBadAngel items do have damage, yes? 23:32 VanessaE damage? 23:32 RealBadAngel wear 23:33 VanessaE tools do 23:33 RealBadAngel sorry 23:33 VanessaE but regular craftitems don't afaik 23:33 RealBadAngel meant tools then 23:33 khonkhortisan Don't I have to remove part of mesecons to get the new wires? 23:33 VanessaE blocks placed in the world don't either 23:33 RealBadAngel so, we take it 23:33 RealBadAngel and make reversal 23:33 VanessaE khonkhortisan: yes, but the new wires have not been integrated into mesecons git master yet 23:33 NekoGloop if you make them connect to on/off nodes regardless of whether the node is on/off in the same way that you make them connect to the blocks, VanessaE, it will not do that. 23:33 khonkhortisan what do I take out? 23:34 VanessaE they're being maintained as a separate module at the moment. 23:34 RealBadAngel damage is not damage anymore but power level 23:34 khonkhortisan I can't just throw them in and have it work, right? 23:34 RealBadAngel and can be charged 23:34 VanessaE khonkhortisan: not entirely. just wait for the new release, it'll probably be tomorrow 23:35 VanessaE lots of changes have been made to mesecons and to the wires plugin - the two work together nicely but they haven't been combined and officially released yet. 23:35 RealBadAngel i made prototype of mining laser 23:35 NekoGloop Meow~ :3 23:35 NekoGloop RealBadAngel, just release what you have >.> 23:35 RealBadAngel as in minecraft mod 23:36 NekoGloop upload the one with working wires >.> 23:36 RealBadAngel you put batteries into battery box 23:36 RealBadAngel load them up 23:36 NekoGloop DUDE UPLOAD THE MOD 23:37 RealBadAngel then use the power to operate the tool 23:37 RealBadAngel ok, i shut up and go work 23:37 RealBadAngel ;) 23:37 khonkhortisan are these rechargable batteries? Isn't it dangerous to leave them in the charger? 23:38 VanessaE khonkhortisan: a modern battery charger in real life won't do damage to a battery left connected beyond full charge 23:38 RealBadAngel they uses tool damage system 23:38 khonkhortisan aw 23:38 RealBadAngel 0 - no charge 23:38 VanessaE these days, battery chargers sense the battery charge/voltage and shut off if full 23:38 khonkhortisan so I can't explode my cell phone 23:38 RealBadAngel 100% charged as the newly crafted tool 23:39 VanessaE you can if the battery itself is shit ;-) 23:39 khonkhortisan Is there a way for a sign to keep the text as you move it? 23:39 * NekoGloop pokes rba to stop ranting and work 23:39 RealBadAngel heheh 23:39 khonkhortisan oh that's what rba is 23:39 * RealBadAngel is away. BUSY 23:40 * khonkhortisan is away. VACATION 23:40 VanessaE khonkhortisan: only if you store the sign's text in a file and somehow associate the entry therein with a particular sign 23:40 VanessaE in short, probably not 23:40 NekoGloop LMAO 23:40 * NekoGloop is away. MINING 23:42 * VanessaE is away - BRUSHING HAIR 23:42 VanessaE ;) 23:44 NekoGloop lol 23:46 VanessaE hehe 23:48 * NekoGloop kicks khonkhortisan 23:48 NekoGloop Vacation's over 23:54 NekoGloop VanessaE, how close are you to finishing? 23:54 VanessaE neko: very close. 23:55 * NekoGloop wants it NAO 23:55 VanessaE tomorrow or day after, most depends on jeija's schedule now 23:55 NekoGloop D: 23:55 * NekoGloop WANT IT NAOOOOOOOOO!!!!! 23:55 VanessaE NO! :-) 23:55 VanessaE *hoard* 23:55 VanessaE MINE MINE MINE!! 23:55 VanessaE ;-) 23:55 * NekoGloop points gun at VanessaE 23:55 NekoGloop Mine. 23:55 VanessaE *pokes finger into end of gun* 23:56 VanessaE *pulls out bigger gun* 23:56 VanessaE mine. 23:56 VanessaE :-) 23:56 * NekoGloop wheels a cannon over 23:56 NekoGloop Mine. 23:57 VanessaE *pulls out a nuclear bomb* 23:57 VanessaE mine. 23:57 VanessaE (for the uninitiated, this is a bugs bunny vs. yosemite sam classic, where each tries to one-up the other with ever increasing weapon sizes) 23:58 VanessaE brb 23:58 * NekoGloop pulls out a fourth-wall-breaker 23:59 NekoGloop Mine. ;)