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SegFault22 |
hey Bad_Command, are you online? |
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SegFault22 |
-.- |
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SegFault22 |
hello? |
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Tekk_ |
hi |
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NakedFury |
damn my connection today |
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SegFault22 |
:P |
00:52 |
SegFault22 |
is Bad_Command afk? |
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Tekk_ |
considering how he still hasn't answered you, yes |
00:52 |
SegFault22 |
I want to play on the gameboom server but he's afk :P |
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SegFault22 |
and I need privs |
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SegFault22 |
all I can do is wait now... |
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SegFault22 |
or is it... |
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MineTestUser |
Are any devs/admins here? |
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Tekk_ |
I run a server |
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MineTestUser |
That's not exactly what I needed ;) |
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MineTestUser |
But I have the soluution to the plagarism half-problem |
01:19 |
MineTestUser |
anyone have a 0.4.2 server running? |
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Tekk_ |
yes |
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MineTestUser |
ip? |
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Tekk_ |
not public |
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MineTestUser |
ohhkay |
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Tekk_ |
thefinn93: terve |
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thefinn93 |
eh? |
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Tekk_ |
well that was an easy way to check if you were finnish.. |
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Dan68 |
lol |
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Dan68 |
I can see thefinn93 from where I'm sitting |
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thefinn93 |
ah yeah no |
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Dan68 |
thefinn93 |
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Dan68 |
lololol |
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Dan68 |
it makes a klaxon sound every time I say his name |
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Dan68 |
thefinn93 |
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MineTestUser |
You spammed him so much he left! |
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Dan68 |
lolyep |
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Dan68 |
well I am sitting 1ft from him |
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MineTestUser |
uhh |
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MineTestUser |
do you have any experience with mesecons? |
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Dan68 |
mesecons? |
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Tekk_ |
what do you need to do? |
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Tekk_ |
I've done a tiny bit of mesecons, more redstone |
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MineTestUser |
Trying to make an automatic door shutter, but a door just got pushed out of the way, and blocks get pushed IN the way when I activate the circuit |
01:32 |
Dan68 |
:C |
01:32 |
MineTestUser |
That's not helpful :/ |
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Tekk_ |
MineTestUser: use a real door |
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Tekk_ |
put a pressure plate inside |
01:32 |
MineTestUser |
Done |
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MineTestUser |
Sorry guys, I have to go |
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SegFault22 |
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SegFault22 |
hey Bad_Command, are you online? |
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NekoGloop |
Ohai crab of the red |
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NakedFury |
any forum admin on? |
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NakedFury |
forum moron alert. mallot1 spammed the same topic on all sections |
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Tekk_ |
what the hell |
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Tekk_ |
I thought you were exaggerating |
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NakedFury |
I wish |
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I dont know why but I got instantly pissed, I had just cleared all sections with Mark forum as read |
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NakedFury |
all cleared again |
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SegFault22 |
Hey Bad_Command, are you online? |
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SegFault22 |
-.- |
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sfan5 |
no |
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SegFault22 |
why is he logged in here, if he is not here? |
06:49 |
SegFault22 |
that makes no sense. |
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sfan5 |
i have that too |
06:49 |
sfan5 |
when i log off from my bouncer my nick turns to "sfan5|OFF" |
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sfan5 |
but i'm still there |
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sfan5 |
maybe bad_cmd has the same but without changing nick |
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sfan5 |
4bit decoder with mesecons: http://i.imgur.com/8fHOm.png |
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jin_xi_ |
cool |
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cornernote_ |
hey |
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Calinou |
lol |
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Calinou |
looks like pee fountains, lmao |
08:48 |
jin_xi_ |
whats up? i have updated painting mod. it uses only one entity for drawing now |
08:50 |
sfan5 |
thats good |
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cornernote_ |
jin_xi - the free painting is replacing the canvas painting mod ? |
09:41 |
cornernote_ |
i see some 3d mobs now... looks exciting |
09:44 |
jin_xi_ |
its now direct on canvas painting, still working on good ui for selecting colors |
09:50 |
cornernote |
can it draw on non-canvas blocks ? |
09:51 |
jin_xi_ |
no |
09:51 |
jin_xi_ |
that would be the graffitti mod |
09:52 |
cornernote |
there is a graffiti mod ? |
09:52 |
cornernote |
wouldnt be too hard to change your mod.. just have a transparent canvas ? |
09:52 |
jin_xi_ |
no ;) |
09:53 |
jin_xi_ |
n only change textures on the fly with those |
09:53 |
jin_xi_ |
oops |
09:53 |
jin_xi_ |
you'd need to put up entities |
09:53 |
cornernote |
entity = like a node/item ? |
09:55 |
jin_xi_ |
entities can change textures |
09:55 |
jin_xi_ |
thats why |
09:56 |
cornernote |
the canvas has entities... |
09:56 |
cornernote |
when you punch with the brush, perhaps it could auto-add the transparent canvas (which is the entities and allows the texture to be changed) |
09:57 |
cornernote |
what resolution is the painting texture? 32x or 64x ? or other ? |
09:57 |
jin_xi_ |
its at 16x16 now, but that could be set higher. |
09:58 |
jin_xi_ |
next step is to work with different resolutions on an per image base |
09:59 |
jin_xi_ |
then image format should be stable and ready for 1.0 |
09:59 |
cornernote |
nice |
09:59 |
jin_xi_ |
problem is, client leaks generated textures. |
10:00 |
jin_xi_ |
one generated for every step of the drawing process... |
10:00 |
cornernote |
leaks ? |
10:00 |
cornernote |
oh |
10:00 |
jin_xi_ |
never frees them |
10:00 |
cornernote |
so theres tunza textures generated |
10:00 |
cornernote |
oh, and fills ram |
10:00 |
cornernote |
ok |
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jin_xi_ |
thats the problem with this approach. |
10:01 |
jin_xi_ |
but it seems better than to place 256 entities at once |
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jin_xi_ |
morning adam! |
11:23 |
PilzAdam |
good morning! |
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RealBadAngel |
ABMs can run in intervals of >=1s or can be called more frequent? |
12:14 |
RealBadAngel |
changin interval doesnt seem to work, looks like 1s is minimum |
12:14 |
PilzAdam |
0 is minimum |
12:14 |
VanessaE |
probably better you should use on_globalstep if you need something that frequent. |
12:15 |
RealBadAngel |
globalstep is like tick in minecraft? |
12:16 |
PilzAdam |
globalstep is about 0.25 sec. |
12:16 |
VanessaE |
"minetest.register_globalstep(func(dtime)) |
12:16 |
VanessaE |
^ Called every server step, usually interval of 0.05s" |
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RealBadAngel |
@PilzAdam: changed interval to many values <1 and it always works like it was set to 1 |
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RealBadAngel |
1/20th of sec, so very same as 1 tick in MC |
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VanessaE |
two nekos? oh G*d. :-) |
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NekoGloop |
:3 |
13:30 |
NekoGloop |
omg i'm mod on this server |
13:30 |
* VanessaE |
grabs a bottle of bitter apple spray, just in case >:-) |
13:31 |
NekoGloop |
D: |
13:31 |
Calinou |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=36021#p36021 |
13:31 |
Calinou |
mikeeusa, version minetest |
13:31 |
Calinou |
that guy keeps spamming "AMG GENERATE_ORE BORING LIKE UR MOM" |
13:31 |
Calinou |
that's why I'll never use his so-called ore generation |
13:32 |
Calinou |
uniform distribution FTW and will always be |
13:33 |
NekoGloop |
:3 |
13:35 |
NekoGloop |
Oh, right, the person who makes a spawn house got mod |
13:36 |
VanessaE |
personally I wish sda97 would make something unique instead of re-inventing everyone else's mods |
13:41 |
NekoGloop |
Someone help me with mesecons? |
13:41 |
VanessaE |
what help? |
13:41 |
NekoGloop |
I want to circulate a block using pistons. |
13:42 |
NekoGloop |
How would I delay the signal? |
13:42 |
VanessaE |
use a mesecons delayer :-) |
13:42 |
NekoGloop |
That didnt work, |
13:42 |
NekoGloop |
Blinky Plants arent helping... |
13:43 |
VanessaE |
did you set the delay? |
13:43 |
VanessaE |
(punch the node) |
13:43 |
NekoGloop |
I set it, but it didnt change anything |
13:43 |
VanessaE |
odd, I've played around with them a bit and the delay change is noticablew |
13:43 |
VanessaE |
-w |
13:43 |
NekoGloop |
Excuse me while I place fire blocks on trees to exert my rage |
13:44 |
VanessaE |
hah |
13:45 |
NekoGloop |
Why do mesecons not affect your homedecor doors? |
13:46 |
VanessaE |
mesecons doors are the only ones affected by mesecons |
13:46 |
VanessaE |
they won't affect 'normal' doors either |
13:47 |
VanessaE |
plus it never occurred to me to let the doors move in response to a mesecons signal :-0 |
13:47 |
VanessaE |
:-) |
13:47 |
NekoGloop |
Now you can make them do that :3 |
13:47 |
NekoGloop |
And what mesecon doors? |
13:47 |
NekoGloop |
Pistons? |
13:47 |
NekoGloop |
Like the one I have? :3 |
13:47 |
VanessaE |
no |
13:48 |
VanessaE |
there was a door added to mesecons in jeija's github repos |
13:49 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/commit/7d944d5a338fc74935d55639db0ce019bbd93cd3 |
13:51 |
NekoGloop |
I have a lava door :3 |
13:52 |
VanessaE |
using a piston to block a lava floe? :-) |
13:53 |
NekoGloop |
Yes :3 |
13:53 |
NekoGloop |
two pistons actually |
13:55 |
NekoGloop |
My inventory is derping -_- |
13:57 |
VanessaE |
heh |
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NekoGloop |
Wanna see my lava door, VanessaE? |
14:04 |
VanessaE |
screenshot? |
14:04 |
NekoGloop |
No, it's on a server :3 |
14:04 |
NekoGloop |
minetest.freedns.in:30000 |
14:04 |
VanessaE |
maybe later |
14:06 |
NekoGloop |
omg giant lava flow |
14:09 |
Calinou |
NekoGloop, version? what mosd? |
14:09 |
Calinou |
oh 0.4.2 |
14:09 |
NekoGloop |
Duh |
14:09 |
NekoGloop |
And it has a lot of mods |
14:09 |
NekoGloop |
0.4.2-rc1 :3 |
14:09 |
Calinou |
animals? |
14:10 |
NekoGloop |
no |
14:11 |
VanessaE |
wonder how well the latest 3d animals performs |
14:11 |
VanessaE |
(and what's with this "abusing the wield image"? |
14:11 |
Calinou |
^ |
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jin_xi_ |
well, if you hold eg a chair, it'll be rendered 3d, and stays this way when you throw it |
14:15 |
jin_xi_ |
-> 3d models... |
14:16 |
Calinou |
^ do animals spin? |
14:16 |
Calinou |
lol |
14:17 |
jin_xi_ |
they don't but that is why they are not fixed to axis (set_yaw()) |
14:17 |
Calinou |
haha cool |
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PilzAdam |
he 3D animals were my invention |
14:19 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou: and you laught at me |
14:20 |
jin_xi_ |
yeah its a nifty idea |
14:20 |
MineTestUser |
Anyone on an online server? |
14:20 |
VanessaE |
interesting idea |
14:20 |
NekoGloop |
Minetestuser, come to minetest.freedns.in |
14:20 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam, sue jin_xi_ for software patents |
14:20 |
Calinou |
;) |
14:20 |
NekoGloop |
on port 30000 |
14:20 |
MineTestUser |
0.4.1 or 0.4.2? |
14:21 |
jin_xi_ |
huh? |
14:21 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou: to late i wrote "License: WTFPL" |
14:21 |
PilzAdam |
:) |
14:21 |
Calinou |
lol |
14:21 |
* Calinou |
compiles his mod, releases it under copyright + EULA agreement to accept before use of the mod |
14:22 |
thexyz |
does anybody know when celeron is planning to return? |
14:22 |
MineTestUser |
And everyone is happy! |
14:22 |
Calinou |
"and everyone is fapping" < what I actually read |
14:22 |
MineTestUser |
*backs away* |
14:23 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz: The last thing i noticed from him was this: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=35148#p35148 |
14:24 |
thexyz |
oh, nice page he has there |
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VanessaE |
thexyz: he is at Assembly right now, or was on Friday anyway |
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NekoGloop |
Meow~ :3 |
14:56 |
VanessaE |
meo**yawn**w... |
14:58 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
15:00 |
Calinou |
VanessaE, huh? |
15:01 |
NekoGloop |
She yawned in the middle of a meow and then said she'll be back later |
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16:16 |
RealBadAngel |
well, i finished codin some cool stuff :) take a look guys http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IVt73l1gMM |
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16:31 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel: Whats the difference between your mod an mesecons? |
16:33 |
RealBadAngel |
fundamental |
16:33 |
RealBadAngel |
mesecons are signals |
16:33 |
RealBadAngel |
0 or 1 |
16:33 |
RealBadAngel |
its logic stuff |
16:33 |
PilzAdam |
yes |
16:33 |
RealBadAngel |
my system is energy based |
16:34 |
RealBadAngel |
you have to produce energy, store it |
16:34 |
RealBadAngel |
then you can use it |
16:34 |
PilzAdam |
k |
16:34 |
PilzAdam |
but do you need this if you have mesecons |
16:34 |
PilzAdam |
? |
16:34 |
RealBadAngel |
i dont have mesecons |
16:35 |
RealBadAngel |
and furnace is just a first step to more complex machinery |
16:35 |
RealBadAngel |
once i have functional power system |
16:35 |
PilzAdam |
users can decide wether they want your mod or mesecons |
16:35 |
RealBadAngel |
of course |
16:35 |
PilzAdam |
why should they use your mod? |
16:35 |
RealBadAngel |
i can even use mesecons to control my machines |
16:35 |
RealBadAngel |
since mesecons are for it |
16:36 |
RealBadAngel |
logic and control |
16:36 |
Calinou |
RealBadAngel, btw, about your pack |
16:36 |
Calinou |
you took some textures from LB's pack (made by scuttles) |
16:36 |
Calinou |
I suggest giving credit at least :p |
16:36 |
RealBadAngel |
i wrote that |
16:36 |
RealBadAngel |
and im removing textures i borrowed |
16:37 |
RealBadAngel |
theres like 15-20 of them left now |
16:37 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel: why should users use your energy mod? |
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RealBadAngel |
its not just energy mod |
16:37 |
RealBadAngel |
it will add lot of technic stuff |
16:38 |
RealBadAngel |
like my chests, furnaces, macerators |
16:38 |
NekoGloop |
I might download it when you edit that post to contain an overview of it all :3 |
16:38 |
RealBadAngel |
nuclear reactors |
16:38 |
RealBadAngel |
bore machines |
16:38 |
RealBadAngel |
lots of them to come :) |
16:39 |
PilzAdam |
But why do you create a new energy system and dont use mesecons as base? |
16:39 |
RealBadAngel |
because ITS LOGIC |
16:39 |
RealBadAngel |
not power system |
16:39 |
NekoGloop |
Mesecons = logic |
16:39 |
NekoGloop |
RBA's mod = redundant |
16:39 |
* NekoGloop |
trolololo's off |
16:40 |
RealBadAngel |
seen electricity mods and redstone in minecraft? |
16:40 |
PilzAdam |
nope |
16:40 |
RealBadAngel |
they coexist |
16:40 |
RealBadAngel |
because they do different stuff |
16:41 |
RealBadAngel |
in real life you dont power your machines with 0/1 signals :P |
16:41 |
PilzAdam |
0/1 signals are 0V / 5V signals but i get what u want to say |
16:41 |
RealBadAngel |
but you can turn it on with 0/1 |
16:42 |
NekoGloop |
At least make a converter to make your power convert to mesecons signal |
16:42 |
RealBadAngel |
no way |
16:42 |
PilzAdam |
so you can call your mod a "realistic" mesecon mod? |
16:42 |
RealBadAngel |
turn ur 220V to 0/1 signal ;) |
16:42 |
RealBadAngel |
no |
16:42 |
RealBadAngel |
its not logic mod |
16:42 |
NekoGloop |
This is the stupidest mod i've ever seen... at least mine is a new idea |
16:43 |
NekoGloop |
well, it's more blocks anyhow |
16:43 |
PilzAdam |
you *can* do logic stuff with energy |
16:43 |
RealBadAngel |
its about power and machines |
16:43 |
RealBadAngel |
not logic gates |
16:44 |
RealBadAngel |
if you cannot see the difference between electricity and logic signal.... |
16:44 |
NekoGloop |
And I can make mesecons make macines :3 |
16:45 |
PilzAdam |
in mesecons you have a 1 signal on a machine and the machine works. In your mod you need a minimum voltage to work? |
16:45 |
RealBadAngel |
so store your 0 and 1 in batteries, and use them to cook somethin |
16:45 |
RealBadAngel |
its soooo logical ;) |
16:45 |
NekoGloop |
I will. Let me make a mod for mesecon addons :3 |
16:45 |
RealBadAngel |
do it :) |
16:46 |
RealBadAngel |
its a free will for all of us to make somethin or to use somethin |
16:46 |
PilzAdam |
in mesecons you have a 1 signal on a machine and the machine works. In your mod you need a minimum voltage to work? |
16:46 |
RealBadAngel |
machines have power usage over time |
16:47 |
RealBadAngel |
power lines provide power but with losses |
16:47 |
RealBadAngel |
you can store energy in battery packs |
16:47 |
RealBadAngel |
or transport it with portable devices |
16:48 |
NekoGloop |
only thing I'll use this mod for: if it can auto-mine, make a cobble generator with whatever that mod for lava making cobble is. Lotsa cobble :3 |
16:48 |
RealBadAngel |
solar panels also produce energy, not just on/off when theres light there |
16:48 |
RealBadAngel |
you need at least 3 solar panels to power one furnace |
16:50 |
NekoGloop |
Give it a sh*tload of more functionality, and I'll try |
16:50 |
PilzAdam |
so the differences to mesecons: 1. the strenght decreases on "transport" 2. the energy input devices provide not endless energy 3. the machines wear this energy out |
16:51 |
NekoGloop |
So mesecons > energy mod |
16:52 |
RealBadAngel |
you know the difference between 0/1 signal and 220V in your power socket at home? |
16:52 |
RealBadAngel |
its exactly the difference |
16:52 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel: so your mod is a realistic mesecon mod: if you build a computer in mesecons u have to use only one plant; in your mod u have to use a lot of plants |
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16:53 |
RealBadAngel |
man, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO with mesecons at all |
16:53 |
PilzAdam |
you missunderstand me |
16:53 |
RealBadAngel |
i can even use mesecons to switch my machines on/off |
16:53 |
RealBadAngel |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGUsxGrqmZM&list=PL0356053BA45C3464&index=11&feature=plpp_video |
16:53 |
RealBadAngel |
take a look on it |
16:53 |
RealBadAngel |
you will understand where my mod is goin |
16:53 |
RealBadAngel |
and will stop comparing it to mesecons |
16:54 |
NekoGloop |
"IT HAS NOTHING TO DO with mesecons at all" "i can even use mesecons" Dafuq? |
16:54 |
RealBadAngel |
because mesecons r control stuff |
16:54 |
RealBadAngel |
look at video above |
16:54 |
NekoGloop |
lol you dont realise youtube lags minetest to hell do you? |
16:55 |
RealBadAngel |
its not minetest video :P |
16:55 |
RealBadAngel |
its minecraft's Idustrial Craft mod |
16:55 |
NekoGloop |
youtube lags minetest |
16:56 |
RealBadAngel |
hmmm, you watch videos in ur irc client? |
16:56 |
RealBadAngel |
interesting ;) |
16:56 |
PilzAdam |
i KNOW the difference between logic and energy |
16:56 |
RealBadAngel |
so why youre attackin me? |
16:58 |
NekoGloop |
because its fun :3 |
16:58 |
RealBadAngel |
lol |
16:59 |
RealBadAngel |
in minecraft even there are two logic systems |
16:59 |
RealBadAngel |
redstone and redpower |
16:59 |
RealBadAngel |
they coexist, even redpower is hell better than redstone |
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17:01 |
PilzAdam |
sry |
17:01 |
PilzAdam |
interntet fail |
17:03 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel: you can build logical circuits with electricity and you can build logical circuits with your mod. So let me compare it to mesecons |
17:03 |
RealBadAngel |
no |
17:03 |
RealBadAngel |
you cannot build logic circuits with power lines for christ sake |
17:03 |
RealBadAngel |
lololololol |
17:03 |
Tekk_ |
but mesecons carries power indefinitely too |
17:03 |
Tekk_ |
so what's the advantage? |
17:03 |
RealBadAngel |
no |
17:04 |
RealBadAngel |
they DONT CARRY any power |
17:04 |
RealBadAngel |
just logic signals |
17:04 |
PilzAdam |
u can understand a logical signal as power |
17:04 |
RealBadAngel |
lol again |
17:04 |
PilzAdam |
in our computer it is 5V |
17:04 |
RealBadAngel |
even ROTFL |
17:04 |
* Tekk_ |
had no idea that lightbulbs ran on logic signals |
17:04 |
Tekk_ |
:P |
17:05 |
RealBadAngel |
but in mesecons they do run on it |
17:05 |
Tekk_ |
RealBadAngel: so then. what exactly is the advantage of using power over a logical signal? |
17:05 |
RealBadAngel |
even mesecon torch can light a bulb :) |
17:05 |
RealBadAngel |
stand up and go to your fridge |
17:05 |
RealBadAngel |
or washin machine |
17:06 |
RealBadAngel |
what the hell powers them? |
17:06 |
RealBadAngel |
0/1 signal? |
17:06 |
Tekk_ |
mesecons, already, in minetest |
17:06 |
Tekk_ |
if someone made them |
17:06 |
PilzAdam |
real computers have logical circuits. But they dont use mesecons, they use electricity. Your mod use electricity too, so i can build a computer with it. |
17:06 |
Tekk_ |
mesecons is both a power source and a logical signal |
17:06 |
Tekk_ |
^ that |
17:06 |
RealBadAngel |
my area of interest is to build machines that use real power |
17:07 |
PilzAdam |
I understand that |
17:07 |
Tekk_ |
RealBadAngel: so works more slowly with less power, etc. |
17:07 |
Tekk_ |
? |
17:07 |
RealBadAngel |
but eventually can be controlled by on/off signals from mesecons |
17:07 |
RealBadAngel |
thats it |
17:07 |
RealBadAngel |
when power drained, stops workin |
17:07 |
PilzAdam |
I only want u to understand that you can call your mod "real" mesecons |
17:07 |
RealBadAngel |
simply as that |
17:08 |
RealBadAngel |
i did??? |
17:08 |
RealBadAngel |
where, point me pls |
17:08 |
Tekk_ |
yeah, everyone knows it should be called buildtest :P |
17:08 |
RealBadAngel |
you did, sir :P |
17:09 |
RealBadAngel |
i call it Technic mod |
17:09 |
RealBadAngel |
with power, machines and stuff ;) |
17:09 |
PilzAdam |
but I see it as "real" mesecons |
17:09 |
RealBadAngel |
lol |
17:09 |
RealBadAngel |
you just make me laugh, you know? |
17:10 |
RealBadAngel |
no offence tho |
17:10 |
PilzAdam |
why? |
17:10 |
RealBadAngel |
because youre arguin like kid never put a finger into 220v socket |
17:10 |
RealBadAngel |
and therefore dont know what power is |
17:11 |
NekoGloop |
lol I havent either but I know what power is. |
17:11 |
PilzAdam |
I study informatics |
17:11 |
RealBadAngel |
i did too |
17:11 |
RealBadAngel |
20 yrs ago |
17:11 |
PilzAdam |
So you know u can see a 1 signal as 5V and a 0 singlan as 0V |
17:12 |
RealBadAngel |
and those are mesecons |
17:12 |
RealBadAngel |
and its ok |
17:12 |
PilzAdam |
so mesecons have voltage too |
17:12 |
RealBadAngel |
cool stuff to make logic gates |
17:12 |
PilzAdam |
but its endless |
17:12 |
RealBadAngel |
and control stuff for another builds |
17:12 |
PilzAdam |
so mesecon = endless energy; your mod = not endless energy |
17:13 |
RealBadAngel |
i said once, take ur 5v signal and power even electric shaver :P |
17:13 |
RealBadAngel |
mesecons are not energy :P |
17:13 |
PilzAdam |
reality = not endless energy => your mod is "real" mesecons |
17:13 |
RealBadAngel |
lol again |
17:14 |
RealBadAngel |
i will not provide ANY logic stuff with my power system |
17:14 |
PilzAdam |
you can also understand a 1 signal as 220V if you want |
17:14 |
RealBadAngel |
even a single switch |
17:14 |
RealBadAngel |
its not made for such stuff at all |
17:14 |
PilzAdam |
yes |
17:15 |
RealBadAngel |
but i can power for example my macerator |
17:15 |
Tekk_ |
PilzAdam: from what I can tell the main point of it is variable power |
17:15 |
NekoGloop |
needs to be a compass mod :3 |
17:15 |
RealBadAngel |
and use mesecon switch to turn it on/off |
17:15 |
PilzAdam |
I understand that |
17:15 |
RealBadAngel |
later on all my machines will have pneumatic tube transport system |
17:16 |
RealBadAngel |
you will call them also mesecons? |
17:16 |
RealBadAngel |
i do technic stuff |
17:16 |
RealBadAngel |
not logic |
17:16 |
RealBadAngel |
period |
17:17 |
PilzAdam |
I understand what mesecons are and i understand what your mod wants to be |
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17:17 |
RealBadAngel |
so stop call it another mesecons |
17:18 |
RealBadAngel |
it will never be even close to it |
17:18 |
PilzAdam |
u dont get what i try to explain u |
17:18 |
PilzAdam |
no offence |
17:19 |
RealBadAngel |
youre tryin to tell me im doin mesecons |
17:19 |
RealBadAngel |
while im not |
17:19 |
PilzAdam |
i dont |
17:20 |
RealBadAngel |
so whats your point? |
17:20 |
PilzAdam |
You can make a furnace for mesecons, that works if you give a 1 signal to it |
17:20 |
RealBadAngel |
completely bullshit |
17:20 |
PilzAdam |
You can make a furnace for your mod, that works if you give power to it |
17:20 |
Tekk_ |
the only difference is htat you can run out of your power |
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17:20 |
Tekk_ |
in that case |
17:21 |
PilzAdam |
YES!!! |
17:21 |
RealBadAngel |
not really |
17:21 |
PilzAdam |
Thats what I want to tell you |
17:21 |
RealBadAngel |
to make my systems running you have to bulid your machines |
17:21 |
RealBadAngel |
power networks |
17:21 |
Tekk_ |
though it's not very fun to have mesecons powering a furnace |
17:21 |
RealBadAngel |
build them up when u will need more power |
17:21 |
Tekk_ |
where you don't have to worry about actually running out of fuel |
17:22 |
RealBadAngel |
Not lightin a fuckin torch to make your machine run |
17:22 |
PilzAdam |
Tekk_ You understand why im calling it "real" mesecons? |
17:22 |
RealBadAngel |
its completely bullshit |
17:22 |
PilzAdam |
please dont be aggressive |
17:22 |
RealBadAngel |
sorry for that |
17:23 |
RealBadAngel |
but thats true |
17:23 |
PilzAdam |
its ik |
17:23 |
PilzAdam |
*ok |
17:23 |
RealBadAngel |
my mod is to b like i said very technic one |
17:23 |
RealBadAngel |
resource dependant |
17:24 |
PilzAdam |
You can make a furnace in mesecons, that cooks if you turn mesecons next to it on. Right? |
17:24 |
RealBadAngel |
to build your stuff you will need to dig a lot |
17:24 |
RealBadAngel |
but then one day u will able to run for example very complex machine |
17:24 |
RealBadAngel |
that will bore tunnels for you |
17:25 |
RealBadAngel |
and just sit and look at ur creations |
17:25 |
RealBadAngel |
automatic farms |
17:25 |
RealBadAngel |
transport systems |
17:25 |
RealBadAngel |
automatic sorting machines |
17:25 |
PilzAdam |
and for your things you have to work to get energy |
17:25 |
RealBadAngel |
all powered by your power plants |
17:26 |
RealBadAngel |
altough, power is not enough |
17:26 |
RealBadAngel |
all complex systems will need logic |
17:26 |
RealBadAngel |
so there will mesecons (like redstone) come |
17:26 |
RealBadAngel |
to provide logic for my machinery |
17:27 |
RealBadAngel |
now you get my point? |
17:27 |
PilzAdam |
yes i got it all the time |
17:28 |
RealBadAngel |
and one more thing |
17:28 |
RealBadAngel |
you can play with different mods at the time |
17:28 |
RealBadAngel |
youre not bond to just one |
17:29 |
RealBadAngel |
in MC ive played with like 30 mods |
17:29 |
RealBadAngel |
complex ones |
17:29 |
RealBadAngel |
building machines that consist of HUNDREDS of parts |
17:29 |
RealBadAngel |
and actually do somethin is fun |
17:30 |
PilzAdam |
i understand your point, but i want you to understand my point too |
17:30 |
RealBadAngel |
i got ur. theres furnace powered by torch. ur mod is obsolete |
17:30 |
RealBadAngel |
:P |
17:31 |
NekoGloop |
STOP RANTING RANDOMLY |
17:31 |
PilzAdam |
In mesecon you dont have to care about energy or stuff like that. You just turn a switch on and everything works |
17:32 |
RealBadAngel |
so, then its wrong |
17:32 |
PilzAdam |
In your mod you have to provide enough energy, like in real life |
17:32 |
RealBadAngel |
yes |
17:32 |
PilzAdam |
whats wrong about mesecons? |
17:32 |
RealBadAngel |
like powering a furnace with torch? |
17:33 |
RealBadAngel |
but this one i think nothing |
17:33 |
PilzAdam |
you cant do the mesecon things in real life, because there is no endless energy |
17:33 |
RealBadAngel |
so what for fooling around to dig coal and other stuff then? |
17:34 |
RealBadAngel |
if you just can lit a torch? |
17:34 |
RealBadAngel |
such ideas are bullshit |
17:34 |
PilzAdam |
but you can (theoretical) build the things from your mod in real life |
17:35 |
PilzAdam |
because it dont uses endless energy |
17:35 |
RealBadAngel |
yes, and when you will need more energy |
17:35 |
RealBadAngel |
you will be forced to look for other solutions |
17:35 |
RealBadAngel |
another power sources |
17:35 |
PilzAdam |
so your mod is more "realistic" than mesecons |
17:35 |
RealBadAngel |
geothermal, water |
17:36 |
RealBadAngel |
nuclear |
17:36 |
RealBadAngel |
and then again, with more power u will need better storage units |
17:36 |
RealBadAngel |
better cables |
17:36 |
PilzAdam |
so your mod is more "realistic" than mesecons |
17:36 |
RealBadAngel |
its so far away from mesecons as it could be |
17:37 |
PilzAdam |
but you can write the same machines in mesecon that you use inn your mod |
17:37 |
PilzAdam |
with endless energy |
17:37 |
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17:37 |
RealBadAngel |
but if some1 will do that i will call him man with no imagination and with childish behavior |
17:37 |
RealBadAngel |
but the game is for all ages |
17:38 |
RealBadAngel |
i can understand that |
17:38 |
PilzAdam |
so your mod is a more realistic mesecon mod |
17:38 |
RealBadAngel |
no it isnt :P |
17:38 |
RealBadAngel |
does mesecons have subspace linked networks of chests? |
17:39 |
RealBadAngel |
so followin ur way, mesecons are worst version of technic mod :P |
17:39 |
PilzAdam |
not realistic dont mean word |
17:39 |
PilzAdam |
*worse |
17:39 |
RealBadAngel |
it was sarcastic |
17:39 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: what does "Make the cart 3D" mean? |
17:40 |
PilzAdam |
3D model |
17:40 |
thexyz |
wasn't they already 3d? |
17:40 |
thexyz |
cubes |
17:40 |
PilzAdam |
now they are more than cubes |
17:40 |
RealBadAngel |
they were just cubes |
17:40 |
thexyz |
any screenshots?) |
17:40 |
jin_xi_ |
oh cool |
17:40 |
PilzAdam |
like the chests in the early versions |
17:41 |
thexyz |
oh, nice |
17:41 |
RealBadAngel |
next update will bring networking for mithril ones |
17:41 |
PilzAdam |
ill make some screenshots in the future |
17:41 |
RealBadAngel |
and the chest part of mode will be finished |
17:42 |
RealBadAngel |
i need tho way to get rubber in the game |
17:42 |
RealBadAngel |
need rubber tree or something |
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17:42 |
PilzAdam |
you mean condom rubber? |
17:42 |
RealBadAngel |
since power cables r not carryin just 5v have to be isolated |
17:43 |
jin_xi_ |
oh lol |
17:43 |
PilzAdam |
or gum rubber? |
17:43 |
RealBadAngel |
youre just trollin :P |
17:43 |
PilzAdam |
:) |
17:46 |
PilzAdam |
is the a server online where everyone has build privs? |
17:46 |
PilzAdam |
*there |
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17:50 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam, minetest.freedns.in port 30000 |
17:50 |
Calinou |
build given by default |
17:50 |
Calinou |
0.4.2 |
17:50 |
PilzAdam |
thx |
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17:50 |
thexyz |
using 0.4.2 is BAD BAD idea |
17:50 |
PilzAdam |
its a good good idea |
17:51 |
thexyz |
or any modern version |
17:51 |
thexyz |
because fuck that things duplication bug |
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thexyz |
btw, that items dup thing is extremly useful :P |
17:58 |
jin_xi |
wow, just updated carts and rode around in one. super |
18:00 |
RealBadAngel |
it will b fixed sooner or later |
18:00 |
thexyz |
what? |
18:00 |
RealBadAngel |
bug |
18:00 |
thexyz |
i've already posted a fix |
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18:00 |
RealBadAngel |
mc had many dupe glitches |
18:00 |
thexyz |
but don't know whether it is right |
18:00 |
thexyz |
seems to work for me |
18:06 |
thexyz |
interesting |
18:06 |
thexyz |
somebody still play on "stress test" server |
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NekoGloop |
Yay you're all back :3 |
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pagliaccio |
hello |
18:38 |
pagliaccio |
i need a help for this mod |
18:38 |
pagliaccio |
http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2632 |
18:47 |
jin_xi |
sry i never used sound in my modding |
18:56 |
RealBadAngel |
me neither |
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NekoGloop |
Meow~ :3 |
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cy1 |
thexyz: which one is the stress test server? |
19:07 |
NekoGloop |
Port 30001 |
19:07 |
cy1 |
of.... |
19:07 |
cy1 |
gameboom? |
19:07 |
NekoGloop |
Of minetest.ru |
19:08 |
cy1 |
ru? |
19:08 |
cy1 |
OK thanx |
19:08 |
cy1 |
I forgot ._.; |
19:08 |
NekoGloop |
It's thexyz's server, sorry, only saw that one line :3 |
19:08 |
cy1 |
yeah I play on the stress test port |
19:08 |
cy1 |
just to screw around and stuff |
19:08 |
cy1 |
not here to build things that's foolish :3 |
19:08 |
NekoGloop |
Lol |
19:09 |
NekoGloop |
LAVAZ |
19:10 |
cy1 |
seriously though, if I wanted to spend a few weeks working on my client side mapping and auto-building ideas it might get even harder to demolish stuff permanently |
19:10 |
cy1 |
minetest.ru is still proto 11 :/ |
19:10 |
thexyz |
right |
19:10 |
cy1 |
:/ |
19:10 |
thexyz |
most servers are 11 |
19:10 |
cy1 |
shaaaaaame |
19:10 |
NekoGloop |
Make it 0.4.2-rc1 and i'll come :P |
19:10 |
cy1 |
look of disapproooooval |
19:10 |
thexyz |
later |
19:10 |
thexyz |
maybe.. |
19:11 |
cy1 |
no it's fine I hate those 0-day protocol updates |
19:11 |
NekoGloop |
minetest.freedns.in:30000 is 0.4.2-rc1 |
19:11 |
cy1 |
just not enough room on mah disk to keep 2 minetest builds |
19:11 |
NekoGloop |
My house is there :3 |
19:12 |
cy1 |
NekoGloop: that your evil chest stealing server? >:| |
19:12 |
NekoGloop |
I only did it that once... |
19:12 |
NekoGloop |
I'm on my ipad atm, i cant play minetest |
19:13 |
cy1 |
Cut off his hands! Cut off his hands! |
19:13 |
NekoGloop |
Lock the chest i wont take anything. :3 |
19:13 |
cy1 |
noooooo |
19:13 |
NekoGloop |
How hard is that? |
19:13 |
cy1 |
ipads are evil if they can't |
19:13 |
NekoGloop |
I could go on my computer :P |
19:13 |
cy1 |
yeah but if it was on the ipad then you could play minetest whilst jogging |
19:14 |
NekoGloop |
I'd fall too f*cking much |
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19:25 |
cy1 |
Just noticed my server at verge.info.tm 6989 was down due to git being stupid about merging and fixed it. |
19:26 |
Keegan_ |
hello finally created my own server but we need more people on every server so advertising will help.. post adds on facebook,twitter,youtube |
19:26 |
thexyz |
yes, yes, let's make users hate us |
19:27 |
Keegan_ |
why |
19:27 |
cy1 |
Keegan_: you are a braver soul than I. Where are you hosting? |
19:27 |
cy1 |
"please advertise my server. oh by the way its address is nah they don't need to know that" |
19:29 |
Keegan_ |
on each server there is a average of 2 people per server |
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Keegan_ |
who agrees to me for more people? |
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NekoGloop_ |
Meow~ :3 |
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NekoGloop_ |
Old went bold :3 |
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BoldCoder |
Ha! |
20:03 |
BoldCoder |
Yes |
20:03 |
NekoGloop_ |
:3 |
20:03 |
BoldCoder |
ty |
20:04 |
* NekoGloop_ |
wants to be petted :3 |
20:04 |
NekoGloop_ |
Meow~ |
20:04 |
* BoldCoder |
pets |
20:05 |
* NekoGloop_ |
purrs :3 |
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NakedFury |
hi guys |
20:22 |
NekoGloop_ |
Hi fury of nakedness |
20:25 |
cy1 |
fuck |
20:25 |
cy1 |
git lost a ton of my code |
20:25 |
cy1 |
again :( |
20:27 |
thexyz |
how could that happen? |
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20:27 |
cy1 |
I'm jynxed! |
20:28 |
cy1 |
But it happened by me pulling from another minetest directory, which also contained a branch named "master" |
20:28 |
cy1 |
git took my master branch, rolled it back to their common base, and then merged the files. |
20:29 |
cy1 |
Then I did a merge --abort |
20:29 |
cy1 |
Instead of returning me to my own master branch, it went to the master branch of that other directory, which is now master for both directories |
20:29 |
cy1 |
discarding all changes in this directory |
20:29 |
cy1 |
sort of like marty mcfly making out with his own mother |
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20:29 |
cy1 |
except git did it |
20:30 |
MineTestUser |
Anyone know how to host a lan game? |
20:30 |
cy1 |
uh, yes? Just point them at your LAN IP |
20:30 |
VanessaE |
run one copy of minetest as the server |
20:31 |
VanessaE |
have your friends run normal clients that connect to your server LAN IP |
20:31 |
MineTestUser |
Ohhkay that makes more sense |
20:31 |
MineTestUser |
that's why my localhost method isn't working yet... |
20:32 |
cy1 |
So, if you git merge to make your changes compatible with upstream, never abort the merge or it'll just silently discard everything you've done. Because it's a stupid program full of stupid. >:( |
20:32 |
thexyz |
cy1: didn't you know? |
20:32 |
thexyz |
git - the stupid content tracker |
20:32 |
thexyz |
according to manpages |
20:33 |
cy1 |
thexyz: yeah, well it's supposed to be stupid in the good way as in "Delete all the stuff? Durr hurr I'll just make a revision for that." |
20:33 |
VanessaE |
delete all the things! |
20:33 |
VanessaE |
*worried look* |
20:34 |
VanessaE |
delete ALL the things? |
20:34 |
MineTestUser |
That's how ragecomics work |
20:34 |
VanessaE |
:) |
20:35 |
MineTestUser |
wait, I ran [minetest folder]/Minetest.exe --server, and nothing happened |
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20:44 |
cy1 |
What I do is: minetestserver --worldname epic |
20:44 |
cy1 |
I dunno about .exe or w/ev though |
20:45 |
VanessaE |
wouldn't you want to run the server graphically also, so you can play along with everyone else? |
20:45 |
MineTestUser |
Yes |
20:45 |
VanessaE |
in that case, do it from the game's advanced screen |
20:45 |
MineTestUser |
That would be so much easier :) |
20:46 |
VanessaE |
plug in your username and password to use for your admin account (can be anything). Leave address empty. port = 30000. |
20:46 |
VanessaE |
have your clients connect to your server computer's LAN IP address and that port number. |
20:46 |
MineTestUser |
okay! :D |
20:46 |
MineTestUser |
that works much better |
20:46 |
VanessaE |
as long as your server PC isn't blocking incoming connections from your LAN, it should work |
20:47 |
MineTestUser |
Which it isn' |
20:47 |
MineTestUser |
t |
20:47 |
VanessaE |
(otherwise, you'll have to play with your server machine's firewall() |
20:47 |
MineTestUser |
I know how to make exceptions on COMODO firewall (which I have) |
20:48 |
VanessaE |
*nod* I figured you had some knowledge of it. just pointing it out for clarity. |
20:48 |
MineTestUser |
okay |
20:52 |
cy1 |
VanessaE: no that's wrong |
20:52 |
VanessaE |
what is |
20:52 |
VanessaE |
? |
20:52 |
cy1 |
VanessaE: you run the server and then run your own client graphically :> |
20:52 |
VanessaE |
semantics. you know what I meant :-) |
20:52 |
cy1 |
the server doesn't do any graphics... it just serves blocks |
20:52 |
MineTestUser |
so what do I do? |
20:53 |
VanessaE |
MineTestUser: do what I said. cy1 is being pedantic :-) |
20:53 |
cy1 |
MineTestUser: plan this out beforehand next time! :T |
20:54 |
MineTestUser |
Uhh, it's just a game with my bro... |
20:54 |
cy1 |
I warned you about stairs, bro |
20:55 |
MineTestUser |
what? |
20:55 |
cy1 |
I TOLD you DOG |
20:55 |
MineTestUser |
Stairs work just fine in the game, man! :P |
20:55 |
VanessaE |
greay, he's gone off the deep end again |
20:55 |
VanessaE |
someone call a paddy wagon! |
20:56 |
VanessaE |
s/y/t/ |
20:56 |
MineTestUser |
We'll need more than that. |
20:56 |
MineTestUser |
/spawn CY1 |
20:56 |
cy1 |
sorry I was too busy checking out that |
20:56 |
cy1 |
choice |
20:56 |
cy1 |
ass |
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NekoGloop_ |
Meow~ :3 |
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SegFault22 |
hey Bad_Command are you online? |
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SegFault22 |
-.- |
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Tekk_ |
there a way to make a placeable block out of cotton? |