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01:10 VanessaE hey
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01:13 cy1 Hey. I need someone to test if my world is reachable now.
01:13 cy1 verge.info.tm 6989
01:13 cy1 I just added the coolest wickedest most ultimate thing ^-^
01:14 cy1 But it's a secret to everyone.
01:14 VanessaE checking...
01:15 VanessaE connected, waiting for media
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01:16 VanessaE 70%...
01:16 * cy1 plays elevator music
01:16 VanessaE whaddya got on here, madblocks? :-)
01:17 cy1 madblocks? that wouldbe mad!
01:17 cy1 mad I tell you!
01:17 VanessaE 93%
01:17 cy1 yee...
01:18 VanessaE you must be using a big sound pack or something?
01:18 cy1 You could uh, say that.
01:18 cy1 It's not 512px textures
01:20 VanessaE ok, I'm standing next to a teleport pad..
01:20 cy1 yes! that's spawn
01:20 VanessaE it reads "M A L F U N C T I O N"
01:20 cy1 ...yes
01:21 cy1 It's a metaphor.
01:21 VanessaE mush...rooms?
01:22 cy1 Yes!
01:23 VanessaE do I see seasons?
01:23 cy1 It's currently summer, I believe.
01:23 VanessaE heh
01:24 VanessaE I gave up trying to keep up with Madblocks, I might just have to reconsider.
01:24 cy1 I have nature, madblocks, mesecons (sort of), moreores um...
01:24 VanessaE (I used to have good support for it in my photorealistic tex packs, but mauvebic moves way too fast)
01:24 cy1 so basically everything I could get working
01:25 cy1 seasons is now in nature, not in madblocks. hydroponics is also its own module now. should work with sunlight, but untested thus far.
01:25 cy1 oh and I have papyrus turned off b/c it spawns too fast but that'll be fixed eventually
01:26 cy1 also slimtrees
01:26 VanessaE nature, as in mauvebic's mod, or ironzorg's?
01:26 cy1 uh...
01:26 cy1 as in the mod I found
01:26 cy1 that... grows stuff...
01:26 VanessaE interesting, my copy must be out of date - no seasons for me normally
01:27 cy1 seasons was a madblocks thing, totally separate from any nature mod.
01:27 cy1 I sort of moved it.
01:28 VanessaE ahhh
01:28 cy1 How do you like the terrain? I tried to make it pretty epic.
01:28 cy1 also, no trenches
01:28 VanessaE haven't looked around much, playing in another minetest window on minetest.ru:30001
01:29 cy1 woah
01:29 cy1 my computer can only play one at a time x3
01:29 VanessaE fly/fast plz ;-)
01:29 cy1 omg u griefr
01:29 VanessaE haha
01:29 VanessaE no, I'm just spoiled :-)
01:30 cy1 There, enjoy.
01:30 VanessaE oh that screwed with you
01:30 VanessaE screws
01:30 VanessaE I was walking on a patch of ice when it suddenly thawed :-)
01:31 cy1 eep, so you're walking on water?
01:31 VanessaE nope, down I went :-)
01:31 cy1 ahh
01:31 VanessaE I like the terrain
01:31 cy1 don't walk on the ice when the spring thaw comes around!
01:31 VanessaE this is not the standard mapgen obviously
01:31 cy1 yeah...
01:32 cy1 I wanted two types of terrain: high mountains and deep seas; and extremely large flat areas.
01:33 VanessaE I like it
01:33 cy1 Didn't mess with biomes, though the divide between desert and not-desert is still pretty stark
01:34 VanessaE there needs to be another type of terrain to bridge the two together
01:34 VanessaE e.g. sandy dirt or something
01:35 cy1 eh, yeah I was just thinking like dithering or something
01:35 VanessaE naw, won't look right up close
01:35 VanessaE hm, a bit laggy
01:35 cy1 I couldn't tell the difference between hydroponics wild plants and jungle grass. So I just made power plants grow wild. <3
01:36 VanessaE haha
01:36 cy1 I took out the antispeedhax, so it logs if you go too fast, but won't back-port you.
01:36 VanessaE wtf?
01:36 VanessaE blue fire?
01:36 cy1 :D
01:36 cy1 my other invention!
01:36 cy1 Guess some of it is still lurking around.
01:36 VanessaE you have a forest fire in progress over here
01:36 cy1 nah, watch it.
01:37 cy1 I don't see the fire...
01:37 VanessaE wtf is your avatar?
01:37 VanessaE not the usual green thingy
01:37 cy1 It's not that green goblin!
01:38 cy1 that's what it is
01:38 VanessaE what am I? :-)
01:38 cy1 minetest doesn't support custom avatars for each player yet. :/
01:38 cy1 I just wanted to get rid of the green guy.
01:38 VanessaE figures
01:38 VanessaE and here I was thinking of making an updated, better-looking version
01:39 cy1 heh
01:39 NakedFury you can but people would have to download it
01:39 VanessaE something high-rez but still generic enough to work for both genders
01:39 cy1 NakedFury: yeah, and it couldn't vary between two people on the same world
01:40 cy1 so VanessaE check your inventory
01:40 NakedFury the way to go about it would be to add a avatar folder or avatar_nakedfury texture. when you go online it loads up you avatar texture for use.
01:40 VanessaE I see it
01:40 cy1 yeah but the trouble is clients uploadan to servers is dangerous
01:40 VanessaE what shall I burn? ;-)
01:40 cy1 see if you can figure the specifics of how it works!
01:41 NakedFury they only upload the avatar_username.png
01:41 VanessaE the specifics is that it's damned quick
01:41 cy1 <3
01:41 cy1 I named it quick flame.
01:42 cy1 auggh have to go eat food
01:42 VanessaE o0k, seeya
01:42 cy1 feel free to build on there
01:42 cy1 backups once an hour
01:42 VanessaE too late, already signed out :-)\
01:43 cy1 oh no that's exactly like dying
01:44 VanessaE like I said, I'm already playing on another server :-)
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07:20 whiskers75 Calinou: I've updated the Dayblock mod's page with licence etc.
07:21 Calinou k
07:25 whiskers75 can you move it to the releases area?
07:35 whiskers75 thanks
07:39 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=29303#p29303
07:40 Calinou TIL crypto fanboys post a new topic for that kind of stuff
07:40 Calinou cy1, hi
07:40 Calinou meme-worthy
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07:43 whiskers75 ...you ask for privs IN the server, cy...
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07:46 cy1 thanks Calinou!
07:46 cy1 and no whiskers75 if you connect it says to ask on the forum. <_<
07:47 Calinou FFFF
07:47 Calinou cy1, on the forum THREAD
07:47 Calinou do not make a new thread
07:47 Calinou -_-
07:48 cy1 yeah couldn't find it
07:50 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2240
07:50 Calinou OHWOWITSSOIMPORTANTIMUSTKEEPMYCOMPUTERON24/7TOCONSUMEELECTRICITYHUEHUHUEEHUHUEHULOLMEMORYLEAKSIHAVE32MBRAMAND37MBISGREATERTHAN32MBHUEHUEHUEHUEHU
07:52 Calinou http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=29340#p29340
07:52 Calinou YHBT
08:01 cy1 wt
08:02 cy1 Calinou: no seriously, memory leaks stop at the process level since 1998 at the latest. Should never need to reboot, except to upgrade your kernel.
08:02 cy1 I use hibernate on this laptop and haven't had to actually reboot in weeks.
08:03 cy1 only have to because the video card industry is like pure evil so their card fucks up
08:03 cy1 valgrind never would detect a leak that stayed around after the process died. it's important to know that otherwise you might reboot too much and waste CU
08:06 Calinou yeah
08:06 Calinou I don't leave my computer on 24/7, too \o/
08:06 Calinou hibernate/power saving sucks
08:06 Calinou takes as long as a reboot to resume
08:06 Calinou "CU" < ?
08:06 Calinou gtg
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09:18 whiskers75 One of my blocks looks like this https://dl.dropbox.com/u/46333495/screenshot_1190816694.png after removing madblocks. why?
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09:23 whiskers75 One of my blocks looks like this https://dl.dropbox.com/u/46333495/screenshot_1190816694.png after removing madblocks. why?
09:23 whiskers75 and how do I remove all the unkown blocks?
09:29 whiskers75 bump
09:32 Japa_werk_ whiskers75, 5 minutes isn't bumping time.
09:32 Japa_werk_ 5 hours is.
09:33 whiskers75 ! :)
09:33 whiskers75 oh and its 6 mins
09:33 whiskers75 not 5
09:33 Japa_werk_ 14:48-14:53
09:33 Japa_werk_ five minutes
09:34 whiskers75 i got 10:21 - 10:29
09:34 whiskers75 8 mins
09:38 whiskers75 i'm getting this error: 10:37:27: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error running function 'on_step': /home/otto/minetest/bin/../builtin/item_entity.lua:75: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value)
09:48 whiskers75 i deleted the on_step bit in that file and it worked.
09:48 whiskers75 Is there any way to remove all unknown blocks?
09:55 thexyz lolirc
09:56 thexyz 2012, still netsplits
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11:30 Taoki Hmm... no updates on GIT for 2 weeks. ;(
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13:28 Riddle any way to make a liqud like lava have a negative dammage value? it seems to cause insta kill >.>  could damage_per_second = 2*-4, become health_per_second = 2*-4,  ?
13:28 Riddle then made positive?
13:31 sfan5 2*-4 = +8
13:31 sfan5 -2*-4 = -8
13:31 sfan5 @Riddle
13:31 Riddle >.< how can i fail math so bad....
13:31 Riddle forgot - * - rules somehow.
13:31 sfan5 wait...
13:32 sfan5 i failed
13:32 sfan5 bc says 2*-4 = -8
13:32 Riddle yeah i tested, don't work
13:32 sfan5 minetest interprets i < 0 as insta kill
13:33 Riddle so is there a way to make this work?
13:33 sfan5 idk
13:33 Riddle *(-1) after all of it?
13:33 sfan5 it should work because e.g. 10-(-2) = 12
13:33 sfan5 <Riddle> *(-1) after all of it?
13:33 sfan5 no
13:34 Riddle hmm
13:34 Riddle there isn't a health  instead of damage thing?
13:34 sfan5 hm
13:35 sfan5 you could use on_collide
13:35 Riddle hmm
13:35 sfan5 and then player.heal(5) or like that
13:35 Riddle i want it to act like lavas dammage tho ... i COULD try that, but i wanna make a healing liquid
13:36 sfan5 try it :)
13:36 darkrose nyanland mod's healstone uses an abm to increment health
13:36 Riddle on_collide {player.heal(i)},     ?
13:36 sfan5 abm is whitty
13:37 sfan5 Riddle: not exactly like that
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13:37 Riddle hmm
13:37 sfan5 it should be documented here: http://tinyurl.com/lua-api-doc
13:37 sfan5 hi redcrab
13:37 Riddle thanks :D
13:37 sfan5 *shitty
13:37 redcrab Hi everyone
13:38 Japa_werk_ yeah... whitty and shitty mean two different things. :P
13:38 sfan5 ...
13:42 Riddle can't find anything in api about on_collide >.>
13:47 Riddle i'm to out of lua for this, used to do this shizit back when i was a teen >.>
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13:51 VanessaE \o/
13:51 VanessaE Everyone relaz, I'm here. ;-)
14:19 redcrab thexyz : Nice your server monitoring site :) ... I didn't see any bad impact on the server ... That's cool
14:21 sfan5 :D
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15:20 thexyz i hate mediawiki now even more
15:20 thexyz but, finally, templates: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Crafting#Tool_Recipes
15:24 Riddle i now have 3 monitors >.< one on this IRC, One on Pnotepad  and one on minetest on one side itunes on the other >.<
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15:54 redcrab Nice job on the wiki :)
15:56 darkrose shame there's no such node as 'wooden planks' though
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17:54 Calinou for fun /me is playing 0.2_20110704
17:54 Calinou the version I started with :D
17:54 VanessaE Calinou: new test track get! :-)
17:54 MiJyn nice
17:55 VanessaE (for 0.4 of course)
17:55 thexyz Calinou: have you seen my changes in wiki?
17:56 thexyz http://wiki.minetest.com/index.php?title=Crafting&amp;curid=95&amp;diff=2060&amp;oldid=2010
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17:59 VanessaE Calinou: http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1999
18:04 Calinou http://pastebin.com/XCS969tQ
18:04 Calinou ^ my friend is trying to make a mod
18:04 Calinou bugs out
18:05 marktraceur Calinou, a cry for help, or simply an observation?
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18:06 thexyz lolwindows
18:06 thexyz what is init.lua encoding?
18:06 thexyz i gues, it's utf-8 with bom
18:12 Calinou telling him now, ok
18:12 Calinou marktraceur, both
18:12 Calinou <thexyz> lolwindows
18:12 Calinou welcome to the 2010 decade
18:13 thexyz Calinou: so, did you see this? http://wiki.minetest.com/index.php?title=Crafting&amp;curid=95&amp;diff=2060&amp;oldid=2010
18:13 marktraceur Calinou, the 202nd decade?
18:13 Calinou marktraceur, yeah
18:13 Calinou wow nice
18:13 Calinou the result icon needs to be bigger
18:14 thexyz why?
18:14 Calinou also, "stonepick" and "mesepick" aren't pages :P
18:14 thexyz yes
18:14 Calinou well... because it's the result
18:14 thexyz but image should be named like page
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18:20 thexyz Calinou: ok, done
18:42 thexyz updated all tool recipes
18:44 marktraceur thexyz, OH NO all the recipes are going to change in the next release, we're changing the theme to "space: the final frontier"
18:49 thexyz aww, nice
18:49 thexyz (diff | hist) . . Crafting‎; 13:48 . . (-1,920) . . Xyz (Talk | contribs)‎ (→Basic Recipes: )
18:49 thexyz (diff | hist) . . Crafting‎; 13:42 . . (-2,582) . . Xyz (Talk | contribs)‎ (→Tool Recipes: )
18:50 thexyz (diff | hist) . . Crafting‎; 10:20 . . (-1,164) . . Xyz (Talk | contribs)‎ (→Tool Recipes: )
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19:11 Calinou thexyz, thanks ;D
19:11 Calinou thexyz, he still has a problem
19:14 Calinou also for the crafting template the torch needs to be the "floor" version not the "wall" version
19:14 Calinou :P
19:14 thexyz Calinou: upload new image
19:15 Calinou yeah, that'll work.
19:16 Calinou done
19:19 thexyz hm..
19:19 thexyz one more improvement
19:20 thexyz btw, can you grant me rights so i may edit http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css ?
19:21 thexyz to make less "style=" hacks
19:31 Calinou dunno how to give permission to only an user
19:31 Calinou :|
19:32 Calinou afaik there is no way to unlock it
19:32 Calinou since it's a mediawiki page
19:34 Riddle there is no -damage_per_second = i,  is there?
19:37 MiJyn Riddle, you can make one
19:37 Riddle wouldn't that require more then just a lua mod?
19:38 Riddle isn't that handled by client?
19:40 MiJyn Riddle, no, a lua mod can do that
19:40 MiJyn you just have to make a loop
19:40 Riddle hmmm
19:40 MiJyn and then a sleep for a sec
19:40 MiJyn plus change the HP of the player you wish
19:40 Riddle so on on_collide
19:40 MiJyn like this pseudocode:
19:40 MiJyn while player->hp > 0
19:40 MiJyn do
19:40 MiJyn player->hp = player->hp - 1
19:41 MiJyn sleep(1)
19:41 MiJyn done
19:41 MiJyn of course, this is not lua
19:41 MiJyn but you get the basic principles, right?
19:41 cy1 minetest.after(1,decreaseHP)
19:41 Riddle hmm
19:41 Riddle not used to lua anymore, and was young when i did
19:43 cy1 function decreaseHP(player) if (player.getHP()==1) then player.setHP(20); minetest.chat_send_thingy("ha ha"); else player.setHP(player.getHP()-1); end end
19:43 Riddle i wish damage_per... didn't assume - as instal
19:43 MiJyn if (player.getHP()==1) then player.setHP(20)???
19:43 MiJyn that just resets his HP!
19:43 cy1 oops
19:44 cy1 function decreaseHP(player) if (player.getHP()==1) then player.setHP(20); minetest.chat_send_thingy("ha ha"); else player.setHP(player.getHP()-1); end minetest.after(1,decreaseHP,player); end
19:44 Riddle player.set(player.HP+1) ?
19:44 cy1 MiJyn: it's a joke
19:44 MiJyn cy1, oh *phew*
19:44 MiJyn Riddle, you kidding??
19:44 MiJyn that will ADD HP
19:44 cy1 Riddle: accessors are easier to do between lua and c, so getHP/setHP I think.
19:45 Riddle ok
19:45 cy1 I don't have ADD who told you that
19:45 Riddle i'm trying to heal 1 at a time
19:45 Riddle didn't know you could make HP grow
19:46 cy1 for dz = 1,1000,1 do minetest.env:add_node({pos.X,pos.Y,pos.Z+dz},"default:apple")); end -- zooooooooom
19:46 Riddle :P
19:46 cy1 apples add 1 hp just look at their code
19:46 cy1 on_use
19:47 cy1 also come see my server! it's actually up unlike menche and glomie :p
19:47 Riddle confuzed = me
19:47 jordach MiJyn, doing something secret???
19:47 cy1 Riddle: yeah I do that
19:48 cy1 verge.info.tm port 6989
19:48 cy1 it's winter in epica
19:49 cy1 oh no wait, just turned spring
19:50 cy1 friggin papyrus
19:52 cy1 chance = 1, = STUPID ADMIN
19:55 cy1 oh no that's the plague wait
19:55 cy1 wtf
19:55 MiJyn jordach, uh, wha?
19:56 jordach you were doing something
19:56 MiJyn jordach, ah
19:56 MiJyn the home?
19:56 MiJyn the SUPER secret home? :P
19:56 jordach yes the ultra mega super secret one
19:56 cy1 right everyone knows about that
19:57 MiJyn jordach, no, it was the super-duper ultra mega super mega secret one
19:57 MiJyn you got your terms mixed up :P
19:57 jordach mijyn
19:57 jordach build dammit
19:59 MiJyn jordach, I'm sort of AFK of MC now
19:59 MiJyn sorry
19:59 MiJyn I will afterwards
19:59 jordach okay, but the server time is limited
20:00 MiJyn rly?
20:00 MiJyn how long?
20:00 jordach half an hour if im lucky, but im at home evfery day so ask me on 'blokeren
20:00 jordach if you wanna go on it
20:00 jordach anytime
20:01 MiJyn ok
20:01 MiJyn is it your parents that give that restriction?
20:01 jordach yes
20:01 MiJyn ah
20:01 jordach but not on fridays
20:01 MiJyn cool xD
20:01 MiJyn weekends?
20:02 jordach longer#
20:02 MiJyn ok
20:02 MiJyn so you are allowed to program
20:02 MiJyn but not play games?
20:02 jordach but my saturdays are usually taken, (girlfriend)
20:02 MiJyn ah ok
20:02 jordach and yes im allowed to wtfimh
20:02 jordach do what the fuck in my houser
20:03 jordach oh and btw, the girl on my server IS my girlfriend
20:04 MiJyn ohrly?
20:05 MiJyn whats: wtfimh?
20:05 jordach do what the fuck in my house
20:05 MiJyn oh
20:07 cy1 any idea what to do about permanent shadows?
20:07 cy1 and is this what on minetest.ru
20:08 MiJyn cy1, permanent shadows?
20:08 MiJyn like the things way high up?
20:09 cy1 no like
20:09 cy1 after clearing the area of trees
20:09 Riddle MMMM.     MMMM       MM      ...............................MMMMMMMMMMMMMM.............................................
20:09 cy1 the shadows are still there
20:09 cy1 weeks late
20:09 cy1 r
20:09 MiJyn Riddle, uh....?
20:10 Riddle keyboard glitched
20:10 Riddle srry
20:21 thexyz oh that was fast
20:22 thexyz spambot banned while it was writing new spam post
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20:26 MiJyn wow
20:26 jordach what
20:26 sfan5 lol
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20:46 marktraceur Est-ce qu'il y a quelqu'un ici qui parle francais? Je veux savoir comment dire "kick" en francais.
20:46 marktraceur <off-topic>
20:46 marktraceur "kick" like, "to kick from the channel"
20:47 jordach marktraceur: wut?
20:47 marktraceur jordach, I'm trying to translate something, I know there are a few people here who speak French
20:47 marktraceur I don't know how to say "kick"
20:48 marktraceur "coup a pied" is the literal, physical movement; "/kick" in IRC is more what I'm after
20:49 jordach ah
20:49 jordach Clever
20:55 MiJyn marktraceur, well, donner un coup-de-pied?
20:56 MiJyn I think that kicking someone from a channel is literal
20:56 marktraceur MiJyn, hrm.
20:56 MiJyn dunno
20:56 marktraceur I wish it were shorter, at least. Maybe there's another example somewhere that I could find
20:56 thexyz marktraceur: http://lang-8.com/
20:56 MiJyn marktraceur, ask it on ##French
20:57 thexyz but i think #french people know that better
21:00 marktraceur thexyz, meh. Why a website when I have IRC at my disposal? :P
21:01 marktraceur MiJyn, I think I've settled on "bloquez", it's not exactly the same meaning, but it's basically what I'm doing to the user
21:01 marktraceur Maybe I'll change the English word, too, since it's more accurate
21:01 MiJyn marktraceur, somewhat
21:03 jordach mark, yep, irc beats web pages
21:04 marktraceur MiJyn, I've asked anyway, hopefully it works out
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21:06 MiJyn ok
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21:48 marktraceur MiJyn, them thar frenchies aren't bitin'
21:48 MiJyn lol
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23:52 MiJyn well, I'm gonna take a break of working on WS, and gonna work on my nether mod instead :D
23:53 NakedFury could it be possible to remove all [Mod] tags from topics inside the mod releases section and perhaps add a more informative tag system? [Tools] [Admins] [Blocks] [Etc]
23:53 MiJyn good idea NF
23:54 NakedFury having mod seems redundant, its already on a mod releases section
23:54 MiJyn IKR?
23:55 NakedFury and the license could be added inside and maybe leave version number with tag, name, version or even remove that
23:55 MiJyn no, version number is good in the title
23:55 MiJyn that way someone can know if a mod was update
23:56 MiJyn *updated
23:57 NakedFury okay thats good

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