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00:37 |
benrob0329 |
Hello |
00:48 |
benrob0329 |
Perhaps someone should just email the copyright owner of Nyan Cat to either get minetest cleared once and for all or not at all |
00:48 |
VanessaE |
been there, done that, got the "fuck off" email to go with it. |
00:49 |
benrob0329 |
so he dont give a crap |
00:49 |
benrob0329 |
great |
00:50 |
VanessaE |
years ago, when the issue first came up, I emailed him asking for licensing info. he wanted nothing to do with MT, called it a rip off, demanded his imagery be removed. that's what led me to make the revised nyan cat. |
00:50 |
benrob0329 |
the creator of the worlds most well known meme doesn't have the nerve to give a straight answer on license |
00:50 |
VanessaE |
and now he's sued and won against Warner Bros (well, settled out of court I guess). so fuck him. |
00:51 |
VanessaE |
the safest course of action was to remove the nyan cat entirely and come up with something new and roughly equal in "cuteness". hence, pbj pup. |
00:51 |
benrob0329 |
I think the bread should be a bit less brown |
00:51 |
VanessaE |
that's the crust :) |
00:51 |
benrob0329 |
it doesn't contrast nicely |
00:54 |
paramat |
i think that brown is peanut butter on the outside |
00:54 |
VanessaE |
the outside edge? that's crust. the middle is peanut butter. :) |
00:56 |
paramat |
yeah |
00:56 |
benrob0329 |
Aa for the "rip off", minetest was created around the same time that notch's channel still had early dev videos |
00:56 |
paramat |
now i'm hungry |
00:57 |
* VanessaE |
hands paramat a fluffernutter |
00:57 |
VanessaE |
:) |
00:57 |
benrob0329 |
What on earth is a fluffernutter? |
00:57 |
paramat |
thanks, i'll eat it once i research what it is |
00:57 |
* benrob0329 |
hands paramat a jelly baby |
00:59 |
* Shara |
suddenly feels hungry |
00:59 |
paramat |
hehe |
01:00 |
benrob0329 |
<Tom Baker> Would you like a jelly baby? </Tom Baker> |
01:01 |
VanessaE |
paramat: it's peanut butter + "marshmallow fluff" in a sandwich, sometimes toasted. |
01:02 |
Shara |
I'm tired enough that that sounds tasty... |
01:04 |
VanessaE |
I've never actually had one. |
01:04 |
VanessaE |
though marshmallow fluff is tasty. |
01:05 |
Shara |
It sounds nommy |
01:05 |
Shara |
I'm not even completely sure I like peanut butter though. We don't really have it here |
01:08 |
benrob0329 |
O_O |
01:08 |
shivajiva |
I think it's fairer to say we have it but it's never been popular, most of us have bought a jar at some point and it turned a funny colour in the fridge after it was opened |
01:08 |
Shara |
Hewh, well I never have! |
01:08 |
Shara |
heh* |
01:09 |
benrob0329 |
you refrigerated it?? |
01:09 |
shivajiva |
yea I even changed it from all to most after I thought about your statement xD |
01:10 |
benrob0329 |
Ive never chilled penut butter in my life |
01:10 |
shivajiva |
pretty sure that's where my jar ended up |
01:10 |
benrob0329 |
That might explain why it never got eaten |
01:11 |
benrob0329 |
penut butter gets hard to spread in the fridge |
01:11 |
shivajiva |
bought one for my daughter to try and that never made it to the fridge, it went straight to the bin lol |
01:11 |
shivajiva |
same with the cashew nut butter |
01:12 |
benrob0329 |
How dare you ditch perfectly good penut butterZ |
01:12 |
benrob0329 |
*butter! |
01:12 |
shivajiva |
I apologise, sorry :) |
01:13 |
shivajiva |
but we love Marmite in our house |
01:13 |
benrob0329 |
I shall have to relay this message of penut abuse to the great King Jif Skippy himself! |
01:14 |
shivajiva |
now I'm wondering what marmite n peanut butter tastes like |
01:14 |
shivajiva |
rofl gn ;) |
01:14 |
Shara |
Probably like the world ending, one way or another >.> |
01:14 |
Shara |
I better sleep too, night all :) |
01:15 |
VanessaE |
night :) |
01:15 |
* benrob0329 |
boots up his computer with a nice boal of chocolate ice cream |
01:16 |
benrob0329 |
Boal? Bole? Ebola? |
01:16 |
benrob0329 |
Idk |
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02:46 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: carbone_mobs appears to be trying to reach for character.x, and failing. |
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04:17 |
octacian |
night all! |
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04:40 |
OldCoder |
The first Minebest source tarball is ready. |
04:40 |
OldCoder |
Fatures: (1) the old sneak code is included, (2) it works with both old and new maps, (3) it saves to the old map format, and (4) it doesn't break Technic. |
04:40 |
OldCoder |
http://minetest.org/minetest-170326.tbz |
04:40 |
OldCoder |
http://minetest.org/ |
04:40 |
OldCoder |
Thank you for your time. |
04:41 |
OldCoder |
Calinou, est31, cheapie, octacian, Zeno`, TheReaperKing, Sokomine, shivajiva, Lunatrius ^ |
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04:41 |
Calinou |
2masshighlight5me |
04:56 |
nore |
"(4) it doesn't break Technic." ?!? |
05:07 |
TommyTreasure |
nore, it did on my server |
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05:08 |
TommyTreasure |
could no longer promote technic drills |
05:08 |
nore |
TommyTreasure: way so, what was the problem? |
05:08 |
nore |
(has this even been reported?) |
05:09 |
TommyTreasure |
i'm not a coder, so keep that in mind. i can only relate the symptoms.... |
05:09 |
TommyTreasure |
drill mode promotion requires shift click |
05:09 |
nore |
ok |
05:09 |
nore |
and? |
05:10 |
TommyTreasure |
would not promote past mode 1 |
05:10 |
nore |
ehm |
05:11 |
nore |
this is strange |
05:11 |
TommyTreasure |
when i ran my game with previous binary, game tried to crash, but didn't. couldn't connect with client. |
05:11 |
TommyTreasure |
my 2nd game, with old style map (my guess on this) and old binary ran fine |
05:12 |
TommyTreasure |
this is a headless box, with no client installed. minetestserver only |
05:12 |
TommyTreasure |
unfortunately, i backed up everthing, except for my world directory |
05:13 |
TommyTreasure |
dumb mistake on my part |
05:13 |
TommyTreasure |
client is jan 28, 17 .15-dev |
05:14 |
TommyTreasure |
2 totally separate and isolated machines |
05:30 |
nore |
okay |
05:30 |
nore |
interesting |
05:30 |
nore |
will try to look at it |
05:34 |
benrob0329 |
Mesecons Inc, now open for business on the corner of Lake and East on VE Survival! We'll build your contraptions, auto smelters and more! Just drop us a letter in the box and we'll see to you as soon as we can! |
05:38 |
TommyTreasure |
i must say thanks to OldCoder's assistance in troubleshooting, and sending me the source. no map changes needed to be made. game works once again. many thanks to OldCoder. |
05:39 |
TommyTreasure |
OldCoder took the time to download my map, mod directory and minetest_game directory for testing. must say he went _way_ out of his way to be helpful. |
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07:23 |
red-002 |
I think I remeber someone else reporting that issue |
07:23 |
red-002 |
the technic one |
07:24 |
red-002 |
they though it was my commit but apprently they found the real cause of it after bisecting |
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12:47 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, hold my beer |
12:48 |
VanessaE |
? |
12:48 |
Jordach |
>The bed needs to have a "lump" in it when you're there |
12:48 |
VanessaE |
oh. |
12:48 |
Jordach |
you know exactly what happens when you challenge me to that shit :^) |
12:49 |
VanessaE |
didn't seem like much of a challenge. minetest.swap_node() just before the "get into bed" animation |
12:49 |
Jordach |
what about afterwards? |
12:49 |
* VanessaE |
shrugs.. |
12:52 |
Jordach |
eh, that solves the problem immediately without many issues |
12:53 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, the eyes can also be non-standard shapes within wardrobe |
12:54 |
Jordach |
i have a way of doing this - but it's a bit... uh |
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13:45 |
benrob0329 |
Hello |
13:51 |
Fixer |
hi |
13:54 |
nrzkt |
preparing work for daily builds :D |
13:54 |
nrzkt |
(debian/ubuntu/fedora) |
13:54 |
nrzkt |
https://gitlab.com/nerzhul/minetest/pipelines/7268388 |
13:54 |
nrzkt |
(in my own namespace atm) |
13:55 |
nrzkt |
oh it's private |
13:55 |
nrzkt |
why... |
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13:57 |
nrzkt |
it's fixed, nice |
13:57 |
nrzkt |
it's the startup for debian/ubuntu/fedora but when it will be properly working we can think about Android, Centos, Windows and more :p |
14:04 |
Fixer |
niiiice |
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14:08 |
nrzkt |
Fixer: it's not finished yet, it's a rampup, but idea is to use gitlab CI pipelines with docker containers to generate prebuild packages for distros everyday after minetest repository sync from github to gitlab |
14:09 |
Fixer |
daily windows builds can be crosscompiled with sfans buildbot.sh (it is main method today anyway) |
14:10 |
nrzkt |
Fixer: yes, i think i will look at this at the end |
14:10 |
Jordach |
nrzkt, now go fix the hud api scaling bugs |
14:11 |
nrzkt |
Jordach: |
14:11 |
nrzkt |
no |
14:12 |
Jordach |
nrzkt, it's a feature that is broken on every other system except windows |
14:12 |
nrzkt |
Jordach: i know but i'm not very client UI aware |
14:12 |
Jordach |
nrzkt, pop an issue for it |
14:12 |
nrzkt |
Jordach: you are the reporter, open it i'm not your slave :) |
14:12 |
Jordach |
that shouldn't be definitely happening |
14:12 |
Jordach |
at all |
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16:06 |
kaeza |
greetings |
16:07 |
Wayward_One |
hello :) |
16:08 |
Jordach |
meep meep |
16:09 |
XtremeHacker |
Roadrunner |
16:09 |
XtremeHacker |
I'm working on rigging a blender thing |
16:10 |
XtremeHacker |
Gonna have to do weight panting, as auto-weighting is messing up for some reason |
16:17 |
Jordach |
...use empty groups |
16:17 |
Jordach |
it always works out right |
16:17 |
Jordach |
(and don't forget to git gud) |
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16:24 |
sfan5 |
Fixer: please test https://github.com/sfan5/minetest/tree/snek3 |
16:24 |
kaeza |
kek3 |
16:25 |
Jordach |
DEPORT SNEK |
16:25 |
Krock |
o/ |
16:25 |
Jordach |
o/ |
16:25 |
kaeza |
o/ |
16:25 |
Fixer |
sfan5: ok, will do a bit later, need to finally move up from the chair with the cat, my butt hurts |
16:30 |
Krock |
*patches* |
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16:39 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/MOUHPrh.png |
16:40 |
Jordach |
hold my beer indeed |
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16:42 |
Fixer |
"With built-in video recorder" |
16:45 |
sfan5 |
yes but it sucks |
16:50 |
Krock |
Jordach, where's the mouth?! |
16:50 |
Krock |
sfan5, nice. it fixes the weird sinking |
16:51 |
sfan5 |
does it? |
16:51 |
Krock |
well, partwise |
16:51 |
Krock |
it's possible to jump even when sinking |
16:51 |
Krock |
before this was blocked |
16:52 |
Krock |
apparently does not work all the time. got to test deeper |
16:52 |
Jordach |
Krock, missing mouth textuers atm |
16:52 |
Jordach |
Krock, tl;dr http://i.imgur.com/FZRL9A0.png |
16:58 |
Krock |
the strange teleporting away from the border increases with this commit a lot :/ |
16:59 |
Krock |
standing too far out on a node and hitting shift results in an instant teleportation |
17:01 |
sfan5 |
that's literally the same as previously |
17:02 |
Krock |
only on regular nodes, sadly |
17:03 |
kaeza |
Krock, while you're there, can you confirm that sneaking while submerged in liquids repeatedly plays the footstep sound? |
17:03 |
Krock |
current: http://i.imgur.com/evti6pC.png patched: http://i.imgur.com/vv18Uz5.png |
17:04 |
Krock |
*turns on sound and checks* |
17:04 |
sfan5 |
oh |
17:04 |
sfan5 |
Krock: you can't sneak on the lower part of the stair |
17:05 |
Krock |
yeah, but IIRC this was possible before. But that caused bugs now, right? |
17:05 |
sfan5 |
previously it would not snap you to the top, it now does |
17:05 |
sfan5 |
depends on when "before" is |
17:05 |
Krock |
"before" = old sneaky code |
17:06 |
sfan5 |
before every node acted like a full cube when sneaking |
17:07 |
sfan5 |
with the exception of nodes that are "uniformly" smaller, e.g. slabs |
17:07 |
Krock |
kaeza, when reaching the bottom? see ladders, same effect |
17:07 |
kaeza |
Krock, ah I see |
17:08 |
Krock |
kaeza, I even opened an issue for that a while ago: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1460 |
17:10 |
kaeza |
Krock, ah, did not that notice until recently. I always just jump off ladders :P |
17:10 |
Krock |
lol |
17:10 |
kaeza |
assumed that was introduced by the sneaking changes somehow |
17:10 |
Krock |
it's always the new sneak code's fault |
17:10 |
Krock |
:P |
17:11 |
kaeza |
yeah, thanks sfan. your sneaking fixes made wallmounted nodes appear backwards |
17:12 |
Krock |
definitely the root cause ^ |
17:13 |
kaeza |
but seriously now, really like the new sneaking stuff |
17:13 |
Krock |
hmm.. sneaking and jumping on half-slabs is still quite interesting. sometimes you fall directly or you're sinking onto it |
17:16 |
Krock |
compared with the previous code it now also disallows from jumping off a node while holding sneak |
17:17 |
Krock |
(not sure if wanted or not) |
17:18 |
sfan5 |
unintended side effect |
17:35 |
benrob0329 |
it'd be interesting to see someone make a fps in minetest |
17:36 |
benrob0329 |
(We could use wield item aninations though) |
17:59 |
ircSparky |
whoa now, when did we get shift-click quick move?!!?!? |
17:59 |
ircSparky |
I just noticed it |
17:59 |
Fixer |
since ages? |
17:59 |
ircSparky |
man |
17:59 |
Fixer |
it is still not enough for me |
17:59 |
Fixer |
too much strain on middle mouse button |
18:01 |
ircSparky |
daaamn |
18:01 |
ircSparky |
shift-middle click too?! |
18:01 |
ircSparky |
I've been being hard on myself |
18:02 |
ircSparky |
at least i knew that middle click crafted 10 |
18:02 |
Fixer |
bug near monitor detected |
18:03 |
Fixer |
sfan5: fixed that issue |
18:04 |
Krock |
no, shift click is rather new, added in 0.4.12-dev |
18:05 |
Krock |
some older mods do not contain this new formspec element, thus it's not possible to move the stacks everywhere |
18:05 |
Krock |
eeks. the new changelog isn't done yet |
18:08 |
Fixer |
https://imgur.com/gallery/ulQoe5J lol |
18:11 |
Fixer |
lets evade damage |
18:12 |
Fixer |
season 2017 episode 0.4.15-dev |
18:13 |
Krock |
Fixer, top comment is somewhat true |
18:13 |
red-002 |
so all that stuff about fixing sneak was completely pointless? |
18:13 |
Krock |
re-adding old behaviour with new code. it's not pointless! |
18:14 |
Fixer |
sfan5: i wonder why it is not possible to make a speed limit beyound which sneak just won't work |
18:14 |
sfan5 |
that's possible |
18:14 |
sfan5 |
just nobody has added that |
18:16 |
Fixer |
btw i'm testing it along double jump PR, hope no problems with that |
18:17 |
Fixer |
it is kinda wrong to test two PRs at once |
18:18 |
sfan5 |
that might break some stuff |
18:18 |
sfan5 |
or maybe not |
18:19 |
Fixer |
sfan5: have not, so far, will look |
18:20 |
Fixer |
will paraphrase about damage evasion... why not simply set a speed limit that completely disables anything related to sneak/corners/whatevercrap - so you just fucked no matter in what pose you fly |
18:21 |
Fixer |
no matter what you press |
18:21 |
Fixer |
nores PR bunny jumping: https://imgur.com/a/mi3HK |
18:22 |
Fixer |
"mobility" perverts will like it |
18:22 |
Fixer |
add legs animation and it will look ridiculous |
18:26 |
Fixer |
sfan5: in singleplayer on mountain terrain I don't see anything suspicious about it yet, will try to walk more on actual server in buildings |
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18:28 |
Fixer |
sfan5: when you sneak and approach stair - it instabumps to top of stair |
18:29 |
red-002 |
great we replaced bugs with other bugs |
18:29 |
Fixer |
i will test without nores pr |
18:32 |
Fixer |
with this doublejump PR i can literally hit my head in jump, ceiling at block 5 |
18:33 |
Fixer |
if slab below |
18:33 |
Fixer |
feels funny |
18:33 |
Fixer |
it adds more ridiculousness to this sneak/doublejump debucle |
18:34 |
Fixer |
bunny simulator 2018 |
18:35 |
Fixer |
wth is this..... |
18:36 |
Fixer |
found another spot - different - more ridiculousness |
18:36 |
Fixer |
will wait before SNEK3 only compile |
18:37 |
Fixer |
ok |
18:37 |
Fixer |
figured it out |
18:37 |
Fixer |
that was sneak effect, have not seen that seen slab1 |
18:38 |
Fixer |
sokomine detected |
18:41 |
Fixer |
snek3 only test |
18:41 |
benrob0329 |
Is it possible to start minetest from tge command line (skipping the main menu and just booting into a world?) |
18:42 |
nore |
Fixer: yeah, my pr is broken |
18:42 |
nore |
benrob0329: I think minetest --world something? |
18:42 |
nore |
or something like that |
18:43 |
Fixer |
nore: well, with slabs/stairs/nodebox - could be, do you want to bunny jump on flat ground? |
18:43 |
Fixer |
so much problems because of this bullshit |
18:43 |
Amaz |
benrob0329: Try minetest --worldname worldname --go |
18:44 |
* benrob0329 |
is thinking about a minetest launcher |
18:44 |
nore |
Fixer: hm nope, this is my pr which is a quick hack and thus completely broken :) |
18:44 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: there is already one - main menu |
18:45 |
Fixer |
nore: i have awkward feel about all of this, not just this pr |
18:45 |
benrob0329 |
Yes, butbit doesn't work well for eg on touchscreens |
18:45 |
Fixer |
it is like removing glands via anal |
18:45 |
Fixer |
weird feel |
18:45 |
Shara |
Hi |
18:45 |
Fixer |
hi |
18:45 |
benrob0329 |
Tmi |
18:47 |
Krock |
Fun fact: new sneak now allows climbing this structure: http://i.imgur.com/o3E49Ay.png |
18:48 |
Krock |
(1 node spacing) |
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18:48 |
Shara |
Hi paramat |
18:48 |
Krock |
o/ paramat |
18:49 |
paramat |
(hi) Krock that's a simple sneak ladder, being able to climb that is good news |
18:50 |
Krock |
however, the old sneak ladder with full nodes (and 1 spacing aswell) doesn't work anymore |
18:50 |
paramat |
ok :] |
18:51 |
paramat |
you mean the old simple ladder, yes |
18:52 |
Fixer |
"can you confirm that sneaking while submerged in liquids repeatedly plays the footstep sound?" can confirm this but wonder if it is also in default |
18:53 |
Fixer |
Krock: even more weirder |
18:53 |
Fixer |
it is not just water |
18:53 |
Krock |
Fixer, yes, see later posted issue link |
18:53 |
Fixer |
if you shift while on bottom of ladder - same problem |
18:54 |
Fixer |
this is so much claster---- |
18:56 |
Fixer |
happens on aa5549e |
18:57 |
Fixer |
https://i.imgur.com/slaQ5wx.jpg this is suggestive |
18:57 |
Krock |
and for some reason my jungle trees are dying like if they were in the vietnam var |
18:58 |
paramat |
don't worry about rapid footsteps, happens in many situations |
18:59 |
Fixer |
paramat: the problem is it started to happen in water too, since some time |
18:59 |
paramat |
well don't blame new sneak for it |
19:00 |
paramat |
if you see the 'new sneak bugs' issue you can see old sneak had many bugs too, i tested |
19:00 |
Fixer |
not new, i'm looking right now when it break |
19:01 |
Fixer |
nevermind |
19:02 |
Fixer |
072bbba also has this sound, one more try and will leave this subject |
19:04 |
sfan5 |
<Fixer> sfan5: when you sneak and approach stair - it instabumps to top of stair |
19:04 |
sfan5 |
feature |
19:04 |
sfan5 |
used to counteract the lower-stair part sneak bug reported by Shara |
19:04 |
Fixer |
holy crap |
19:05 |
Fixer |
this is surreal |
19:05 |
Shara |
A teleport bug to fix a getting stuck bug? |
19:05 |
Fixer |
yo dawg |
19:06 |
octacian |
How does the mapgen_limit setting work? If set to 31000 would that mean that the map would be generated 31000 blocks each direction from spawn? |
19:06 |
octacian |
(spawn = 0,0,0) |
19:22 |
paramat |
octacian yes |
19:22 |
octacian |
paramat: good, thanks. |
19:23 |
paramat |
that's also default behaviour and what happened before we had the limit |
19:23 |
paramat |
31000 |
19:23 |
paramat |
31000 was the old fixed limit |
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19:30 |
Fixer |
suddenly this https://i.imgur.com/sFV81wh.png |
19:31 |
Shara |
Clearly a new feature. |
19:31 |
Fixer |
it is enlarged chicken renamed into turkey with turkey sound |
19:31 |
Shara |
I actually sort of like it. |
19:31 |
Shara |
I did it with bats after all. |
19:32 |
Fixer |
it is huge turkey |
19:32 |
Shara |
And... now I'm hungry again. |
19:32 |
Amaz |
It looks a bit like some strange dinosaur |
19:32 |
Shara |
What is it with this channel and making me feel hungry? |
19:32 |
Amaz |
Oooo, a chicken that size would be good |
19:32 |
Amaz |
*drools* |
19:32 |
Shara |
Not helping >.> |
19:33 |
Amaz |
Sorry :P |
19:33 |
Shara |
Now I'm thinking about ancient unfinished cookie mod! |
19:33 |
Amaz |
Although this has made me hungry - and I've just eaten... |
19:33 |
RobbieF |
TPS-Crappy has kittens that are generally larger than elephants. Just sayin'. |
19:33 |
thefamilygrog66 |
That thing is huge! |
19:33 |
Shara |
RobbieF :D |
19:34 |
Calinou |
hi RobbieF |
19:34 |
Amaz |
Talking about elephants, does anyone have a half-decent elephant model? I mean adding Oliphants to LOTT would be cool :) |
19:34 |
RobbieF |
hey Calinou! |
19:35 |
RobbieF |
Amaz I like the mobs-redo model quite well! |
19:35 |
Amaz |
Oooo, there's one in mobs redo? :D |
19:36 |
Amaz |
I didn't realise that :D |
19:36 |
Shara |
I thought it was in dmobs |
19:36 |
RobbieF |
oh maybe tenplus1 adapted it for me |
19:36 |
RobbieF |
I have it in redo |
19:36 |
RobbieF |
but there IS one on TPS-Domes, that's the point LOL |
19:36 |
Shara |
Yea, but redo itself doesn't have mobs |
19:36 |
Shara |
That's just... the thing that handles them |
19:36 |
RobbieF |
sorry, you know what I mean :D |
19:36 |
Shara |
:D |
19:36 |
RobbieF |
yes, the api |
19:37 |
Shara |
Amaz: Check dmobs |
19:37 |
RobbieF |
don't get all semantic on me :) |
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19:37 |
Amaz |
Shara, okay :D |
19:37 |
Shara |
My version of dmobs has ridable elephants, not sure if the originals are ridable |
19:37 |
* Amaz |
passes out |
19:37 |
Amaz |
The awesomeness |
19:37 |
* Amaz |
needs this |
19:37 |
Amaz |
:P |
19:38 |
Fixer |
Well, chicken is kinda dinosaur, just smaller |
19:38 |
Shara |
Heh, I keep saying I'll make my version public sometime. |
19:38 |
Fixer |
Zeno knows for sure |
19:38 |
benrob0329 |
Hi RobbieF |
19:38 |
Shara |
But realised I need to figure out license stuff and things to show in a presentable way and got a headache and... gqave up. :) |
19:39 |
Amaz |
License stuff can be annoying at times |
19:39 |
Shara |
Since I think I combined things from three different places into my version of the mod now. |
19:39 |
Shara |
My version has bats and bugs from other mods. |
19:41 |
RobbieF |
Amaz I have the elephant attack me on TPS Episode 21 if you want to see it |
19:41 |
Amaz |
Link? :D |
19:42 |
RobbieF |
http://minetest.tv |
19:42 |
Amaz |
ty :) |
19:42 |
RobbieF |
:D |
19:42 |
RobbieF |
might have to skim to find that bit... probably ~ 1/2 way+ mark |
19:42 |
Amaz |
Okay, thanks! |
20:04 |
Amaz |
RobbieF: Just saw your murder by that elephant xD |
20:05 |
RobbieF |
:D |
20:05 |
RobbieF |
good model eh? |
20:05 |
RobbieF |
and you're right; it was a MURDER |
20:05 |
RobbieF |
lol |
20:05 |
Amaz |
Yup :P |
20:05 |
RobbieF |
vicious creatures |
20:05 |
RobbieF |
and I'm all "I hope they're friendly" |
20:06 |
Amaz |
Yup |
20:06 |
RobbieF |
Note: they are not. |
20:06 |
Amaz |
And that sigh after it killed you :P |
20:06 |
RobbieF |
LOL |
20:06 |
Amaz |
And was that a troll that spawned right next to it when you went back there? :P |
20:06 |
Amaz |
Ah, yes, it was :P |
20:07 |
Amaz |
Your lucky day :p |
20:08 |
RobbieF |
likely! |
20:08 |
RobbieF |
lol |
20:16 |
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20:18 |
Fixer |
https://i.imgur.com/I2WmmXW.png |
20:19 |
Fixer |
https://i.imgur.com/FucbAus.png |
20:20 |
kaeza |
>FucbAus |
20:20 |
kaeza |
so close |
20:20 |
kaeza |
also what is that? O.o |
20:21 |
Jordach |
why are thoes clouds different |
20:21 |
Jordach |
like they've got a texture |
20:21 |
Jordach |
waita minute |
20:21 |
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20:21 |
Jordach |
that's MC |
20:22 |
sofar |
you sound disappointed |
20:22 |
Jordach |
when did we get that |
20:23 |
Fixer |
mc beta 1.7.3 with Etho world (one from 2011) |
20:23 |
Fixer |
did some archeology |
20:24 |
Fixer |
that was candy texture pack |
20:24 |
Fixer |
https://i.imgur.com/auWaBs6.jpg |
20:25 |
Fixer |
dokucraft |
20:25 |
thefamilygrog66 |
My lame, yet successful, attempt to create/export a red sphere in blender, and use it for a mob: https://vid.me/VY3H |
20:26 |
Fixer |
https://i.imgur.com/36yupTC.jpg this one was converted for minetest by someone |
20:26 |
Fixer |
faithful 32px |
20:31 |
Fixer |
https://i.imgur.com/aW62kLw.png johnsmith |
20:32 |
Fixer |
dat crosshair |
20:34 |
benrob0329 |
(Offtopic) https://levans.fr/blog//rust_wayland_1-en.html |
20:40 |
Fixer |
wayland development feels as fast as minetest one |
20:40 |
Fixer |
10 years passed |
20:40 |
Fixer |
still waiting |
20:51 |
* Sokomine |
hides from Fixer |
20:51 |
Sokomine |
ah :-) code archeology sounds intresting |
21:00 |
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21:02 |
Jordach |
wooo |
21:02 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/ncBxra4.png |
21:02 |
Jordach |
dynamically supporting ones with extra facial textuers |
21:02 |
Jordach |
or features like eyeliner |
21:06 |
Fixer |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=17111 KEK |
21:06 |
Fixer |
and i thought like 12 hours ago... about compressed cobble |
21:11 |
Calinou |
I think More Blocks has compressed cobble too |
21:11 |
Calinou |
(only 1 tier) |
21:11 |
Jordach |
Calinou, just call it ExtraUtils and call it a day ;) |
21:12 |
Calinou |
libExtraUtilToolsFrameworkHelperMod |
21:12 |
Fixer |
lib.Extra.Util.Tools.Framework.Helper.Mod |
21:12 |
Fixer |
License: ISC |
21:12 |
Fixer |
wth |
21:13 |
Calinou |
where did you see that? :P |
21:13 |
Fixer |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=17079 |
21:14 |
Calinou |
what's wrong with ISC license? |
21:14 |
Fixer |
Calinou: never heared of it |
21:26 |
benrob0329 |
Its OpenBSD's goto license |
21:28 |
Calinou |
npm also defaults to it in "npm init" |
21:34 |
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22:12 |
red-002 |
Fixer, at least we are not reactos |
22:12 |
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22:12 |
red-002 |
to be fair through they have to recreate a whole OS |
22:12 |
benrob0329 |
Buy they're doing it! |
22:13 |
benrob0329 |
So props to them |
22:13 |
red-002 |
but thier forums aren't much better https://www.reactos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=16283 |
22:14 |
Jordach |
>(1) You're two decades late with your objections. (2) I don't think the objections matter. |
22:14 |
Jordach |
roasted and toasted |
22:15 |
* benrob0329 |
might stick reactos on a vm |
22:16 |
benrob0329 |
maybe I can get some windows games to run decently without wine |
22:16 |
Jordach |
it's called a VM with windows and GPU passthrough |
22:16 |
benrob0329 |
And I don't mean being so drunk it doesn't natter anymore |
22:17 |
red-002 |
lol |
22:17 |
Jordach |
are you alright, benrob0329 |
22:17 |
benrob0329 |
yes |
22:17 |
benrob0329 |
I think |
22:17 |
benrob0329 |
Maybe |
22:17 |
benrob0329 |
Probably not |
22:18 |
Fixer |
PART FISH @ PART GIRL |
22:19 |
benrob0329 |
I'm doing better than he is apparently |
22:19 |
red-002 |
seems so indeed |
22:19 |
* benrob0329 |
is now away |
22:20 |
nerzhul |
benrob0329, i play skyrim on wine in ultra mode works fine :) |
22:20 |
Fixer |
https://i.imgur.com/cCDXkHa.png |
22:21 |
rubenwardy |
Skyrim works in Wine???????? |
22:21 |
rubenwardy |
why have I not been told this? |
22:21 |
nerzhul |
rubenwardy, yes, it works perfect on mine, sometimes fps drop when too many casters but works well |
22:21 |
nerzhul |
i have arch with wine-csmt |
22:22 |
nerzhul |
wine-staging |
22:22 |
nerzhul |
which has the csmt patchset to improve performance |
22:23 |
Jordach |
nerzhul, hard mode: fallout 4 |
22:24 |
nerzhul |
Jordach, i don't have it :p |
22:26 |
VanessaE |
sofar: here's another candidate for minetest-mods, https://github.com/cyisfor/inventory_sorter (no commits in over three years, and I've seen a complaint of corrupted textures therein) |
22:26 |
Fixer |
from me |
22:26 |
Fixer |
not corrupted - just usage of symlinks on windows |
22:26 |
Fixer |
which is not working here |
22:26 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: "timsoft" on the forum, also. |
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22:27 |
sofar |
I can't skyrim on wine, tried many times |
22:27 |
nerzhul |
sofar, i have a AMD 7970 |
22:27 |
sofar |
that sucks |
22:27 |
sofar |
I'm sorry to hear that |
22:27 |
nerzhul |
it's not a recent card but very decent :p and doesn't benefit from current AMD work as it's a GCN 1.1 |
22:27 |
sofar |
unfortunately, even though I work for Intel, I can't give out free CPUs |
22:28 |
nerzhul |
i talked about my GPU not CPU |
22:28 |
sofar |
I was just kidding |
22:28 |
nerzhul |
my CPU is a FX 8350 it consume some electricity, but in france we have nuclear power :p |
22:28 |
Amaz |
So you do hand out free CPUs, sofar? :D |
22:28 |
Amaz |
;) |
22:28 |
sofar |
it may not produce CO2, but it's not renewable |
22:29 |
sofar |
Amaz: no, but I myself have gotten freebies before :) |
22:29 |
Amaz |
Nice :) |
22:29 |
sofar |
although it's been a while |
22:29 |
sofar |
I'll need to replace them soon, 5yrs old already now |
22:30 |
sofar |
6-core 12-thread cpu's are hard to let go :) |
22:30 |
* Amaz |
is jealous |
22:30 |
Jordach |
sofar, R Y Z E N |
22:30 |
rubenwardy |
!seen tenplus1 |
22:30 |
ShadowBot |
rubenwardy: I saw tenplus1 in #minetest-project 1 week, 2 days, 5 hours, 55 minutes, and 19 seconds ago saying "all of a sudden staticdata is returned as nil when i go back into an area filled with tamed mobs..." |
22:30 |
* sofar |
is triggered |
22:30 |
Jordach |
LMAO |
22:30 |
nerzhul |
Intel != Free CPU, they add bloat in linux kernel :p |
22:31 |
sofar |
they're not free to you |
22:31 |
nerzhul |
:p |
22:31 |
sofar |
you better pay part of my salary when you buy one |
22:31 |
nerzhul |
FX 8350 = 8 CPU it's very nice 4Ghz also |
22:31 |
Jordach |
sofar, eh, i have an i5 4690 |
22:31 |
Fixer |
i3 |
22:31 |
sofar |
Jordach: that's a nice one, will last you a few more years |
22:32 |
Jordach |
sofar, my bios lets me OC it |
22:32 |
Jordach |
it corrupts UEFI gfx |
22:32 |
sofar |
I'm still on a HSW desktop myself at work |
22:32 |
Jordach |
but windows boots just fine |
22:32 |
Jordach |
it can go ~4.4Ghz |
22:32 |
Fixer |
Jordach: iirc there were motherboards that allowed overclock of intel cpus |
22:32 |
Jordach |
Fixer, Z97-K ASUSTek |
22:34 |
sofar |
many boards |
22:34 |
Fixer |
can overclock any, not just K versions |
22:34 |
Fixer |
i don't have details |
22:34 |
Fixer |
but it is possible |
22:35 |
Jordach |
the Hyper Evo 212 cooler with twin 120mm fans do a decent job of cooling it |
22:35 |
sofar |
tbh I never overclock |
22:35 |
Jordach |
^ |
22:36 |
Jordach |
product lifetime vs early death and performace |
22:36 |
sofar |
getting a good power supply and a nice fan is a much better deal |
22:36 |
sofar |
I need my system to be reliable above all |
22:36 |
sofar |
2 days downtime and I'm in fetus position in a corner reciting biblical verses |
22:37 |
Jordach |
my m8s OC'd i7 4790k has a waterloop with an air bubble |
22:38 |
Jordach |
it gets spicy |
22:38 |
sofar |
model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790 CPU @ 3.60GHz |
22:38 |
sofar |
preprod CPU without any locks |
22:38 |
Jordach |
Intel ME leaks wen |
22:38 |
Jordach |
Kappa |
22:39 |
sofar |
could care less, this box is in the office anyway |
22:41 |
Fixer |
holy crap |
22:41 |
Fixer |
shit breaked |
22:41 |
Fixer |
was afking, when suddenly something approaching very fast... turns out that huge turkey... |
22:42 |
sofar |
the country or animal? |
22:42 |
Jordach |
dem roaches |
22:43 |
Fixer |
animal in Just Test 2 |
22:43 |
Fixer |
footsteps were alarmingly fast and I had to open minetest window |
22:44 |
Fixer |
huge ch..turkey was moving fast in my direction |
22:44 |
Fixer |
i step away |
22:44 |
Fixer |
to the side |
22:44 |
Fixer |
luckily it just walked near me and made few sounds |
22:45 |
Sokomine |
ah, those chicken? they're...huge |
22:46 |
Fixer |
JT2 is simply insanely huge |
22:46 |
Sokomine |
players on that server are more dangerous. there are many friendly ones, but it is also a server where pvp is allowed. i personally don't like that |
22:46 |
Fixer |
larger than player |
22:46 |
Fixer |
http://www.ancientdomainsofmystery.com/2017/03/the-adom-build-system.html |
22:47 |
Sokomine |
yes, they're pretty big, those chicken. a big mystery where they came from, what they do (except running around very fast), what they're up to...probably a conspiracy :-) |
22:47 |
Sokomine |
they can indeed be scary |
22:48 |
* VanessaE |
pokes Sokomine |
22:48 |
* Sokomine |
hides behind such a huge chicken :-) |
22:49 |
Sokomine |
VanessaE: yes, i know. i need to take care of your pull request. need to think about how to do it best... |
22:49 |
Fixer |
Sokomine: maikerumine enabled them for a holiday and forgot to disable iirc |
22:49 |
Sokomine |
currently i'm trying to include a way to manually build/repair a house that was placed using handle_schematics |
22:50 |
VanessaE |
Sokomine: I made a pull request? I was just poking you :) |
22:50 |
Sokomine |
fixer: oh. hope he keeps them on. they where (apart from the buildings and some very friendly players) something i actually liked there |
22:50 |
Sokomine |
VanessaE: maybe you thought that was necessary after having to wait so long :) can't hurt to poke now and then :) |
22:51 |
VanessaE |
nope, I figured you'll get to it whenever :) |
23:02 |
Fixer |
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/03/23/making-dungeon-crawl-stone-soup-with-253-cooks-and-no-head-chef/ |
23:02 |
Fixer |
found some parallels with minetest |
23:05 |
Jordach |
>they post a design document on the development wiki, detailing the changes that they want to make. |
23:05 |
Jordach |
WHY DON'T WE HAVE THIS |
23:05 |
rubenwardy |
Jordach, http://dev.minetest.net/TODO |
23:08 |
red-002 |
how many forks of minetest are there right now? |
23:09 |
Fixer |
just read the article |
23:09 |
rubenwardy |
just freeminer, basically |
23:09 |
Fixer |
it has some insight on project development |
23:09 |
rubenwardy |
minebest is coming soon[tm] |
23:09 |
red-002 |
what about voxellands? |
23:09 |
rubenwardy |
oh yeah |
23:09 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: and mobile one... forgot the name |
23:09 |
rubenwardy |
but that's 0.3.1 |
23:09 |
red-002 |
rubenwardy, he released zip |
23:09 |
red-002 |
no git repo right now |
23:10 |
red-002 |
it seems to be mostly a client thing |
23:11 |
paramat |
freeminer and voxelands dev are both very quiet recently |
23:12 |
red-002 |
I hope minebest doesn't go gpl like freeminer |
23:13 |
Fixer |
multicraft is big one |
23:13 |
Fixer |
for crippled devices |
23:14 |
Shara |
multicraft lately seems like thing intended to make players sulk at me |
23:15 |
Fixer |
why? |
23:15 |
red-002 |
I guess in a werid way the fork became bigger then the orignal |
23:15 |
Shara |
Users report problems opening inventory |
23:15 |
red-002 |
but still bases it's code of mt |
23:16 |
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23:16 |
Fixer |
hah |
23:18 |
Fixer |
it seems minetest itself is just 25% of userbase? |
23:19 |
Fixer |
multicraft is 62% |
23:19 |
Fixer |
mobile users = 90$ |
23:19 |
Fixer |
% |
23:19 |
Fixer |
https://kitsunemimi.pw/tmp/serverlist_stats_2017-03-17.txt |
23:25 |
paramat |
nuts |
23:27 |
paramat |
unfortunately they can access our servers :] |
23:28 |
rubenwardy |
well, it's better to compare quality of players |
23:29 |
Shara |
I mostly don't mind where players are coming from, though did get annoyed by whichever client it was that made them pay to use privs I had granted them... |
23:29 |
Fixer |
then you need to ban whole android more or less |
23:30 |
paramat |
yes. can servers actually refuse entry to multicraft etc clients? |
23:30 |
paramat |
i mean yes judge on quality |
23:31 |
Shara |
I never managed to find out which client it was... but at one time many younger players were telling me they could not fly on my creative because it told them to pay for an upgrade for that priv. |
23:31 |
Shara |
So I was paying to run server, and my players were paying someone else to use privs I granted them.... |
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23:32 |
paramat |
i would support servers being able to ban any undesirable client type, if they want to |
23:33 |
Shara |
Would be nice. |
23:34 |
Shara |
Though that's the only one so far I'd have used it on. |
23:35 |
Shara |
News formspec on creative server has a permanant request to use official clients. |
23:35 |
Grandolf |
hm |
23:37 |
Grandolf |
<paramat> i would support servers being able to ban any undesirable client type, if they want to<this isnt nessisarily a good thing |
23:37 |
Shara |
Grandolf: you missed context of what I sai dbefore |
23:37 |
Shara |
It can be a good thing. |
23:37 |
Grandolf |
ik |
23:38 |
Shara |
I pay to run a server. I should be able to block clients designed for someone else to make money from my server. |
23:38 |
Fixer |
Jordach: http://7drl.org/2017/03/12/pepe-the-frog-vs-dat-boi-in-the-search-of-the-lost-shadilay-7drl-success/ |
23:39 |
Jordach |
LOL |
23:39 |
Shara |
But thankfully I didn't hear about that client in a while now |
23:39 |
Grandolf |
hm |
23:39 |
OldCoder |
rubenwardy, it is here. Not coming soon[tm]. Spoon, fork, or spork is to be determined. |
23:39 |
Grandolf |
i was thinking MT clients |
23:40 |
Jordach |
Shara, paramat so my complaints about adding one-way-trapdoor DRM was a good idea then |
23:41 |
Shara |
Jordach: Don't know really. Someone else charging my players to use privs I gave them was just... well. |
23:41 |
Shara |
And some of them were paying it. |
23:42 |
Shara |
None of them ever offered donation to server owner of course :) |
23:42 |
Jordach |
Shara, the server gets the client info: proj name; maj. num, minor. num, patch num |
23:42 |
Jordach |
and commit ID |
23:43 |
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23:43 |
Jordach |
changing the project name or hiding the commit ID becomes obvious it's a chinese client |
23:43 |
Fixer |
thats why any server should have Warning on message boards about this scum |
23:44 |
Shara |
Fixer: This was some time back. I wasn't really active outside my own servers back then |
23:44 |
paramat |
i wouldn't necessarily support a server's use of such a feature, but i feel a server should have that power, there are many crude mobile MT forks out there |
23:44 |
Jordach |
Shara, oh fuck why DID WE GET RID OF NYAN CAT NOW |
23:45 |
Shara |
Jordach: LOL |
23:45 |
Jordach |
>selling game access with nyan cat |
23:45 |
Jordach |
>EASY DMCA |
23:45 |
Jordach |
YOU FUCKING MORONS |
23:45 |
Jordach |
a perfect trump card |
23:45 |
Shara |
I knew where you were going soona s you said that :D |
23:45 |
Shara |
I'm still so tempted to make red cat replacement... |
23:46 |
Shara |
MT not having a cat in it... |
23:46 |
Shara |
Jordach: Meow :( |
23:46 |
rubenwardy |
you need to be the owner to send a DMCA, btw |
23:46 |
thefamilygrog66 |
My server has nyan cat mobs |
23:46 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, anyone can file it |
23:46 |
Jordach |
even on behalf |
23:46 |
Shara |
thefamilygrog66: Yea, you can just keep the old mod, but it's not in MTG anymore. So be careful when you update |
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23:56 |
Fixer |
" Fixed an apparently 1 in 10000000ish chance for a call to random(1,10) to return an 11 that must have been there for years" |
23:56 |
Fixer |
kek |