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| 12:36 |
rubenwardy |
Should -hub be disbanded? Both #minetest and #minetest-hub are a lot less active these days, there's an argument that -hub has outlived its purpose |
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| 12:47 |
Zughy |
pretty new here, but I guess so..? The community doesn't look that much vast, probably subdividing it even more portrays some sort of emptiness? |
| 12:47 |
sfan5 |
#minetest is actually more active than usual these days, but to the point: I don't see much (or any) discussion with modders or server owners here so I'd agree that the purpose of this channel is kinda lost |
| 12:48 |
rubenwardy |
my vote would be to move into #minetest, but there are people like tenplus1 that may feel excluded by that (they previously stated that they don't like #minetest, this may have changed since) |
| 12:48 |
Zughy |
also because I guess you core devs and all have some sort of private channel, on Discord or whatever |
| 12:48 |
rubenwardy |
All development is done in public |
| 12:49 |
Zughy |
I love you (Minetest devs) but not in a creepy nor romantic way then |
| 12:49 |
rubenwardy |
There is a staff IRC channel that is used to discuss things like security vulnerabilities and moderation support |
| 12:49 |
rubenwardy |
but as an open source project, all development is done in the public IRC channel or GitHub |
| 12:50 |
Zughy |
so if I may ask, do you have any estimate about when considering Minetest ready to be shipped? |
| 12:50 |
rubenwardy |
!tell tenplus1 http://irc.minetest.net/minetest-hub/2020-04-20#i_5672297 |
| 12:50 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: yeah, sure, whatever |
| 12:50 |
rubenwardy |
Minetest already has stable releases |
| 12:50 |
rubenwardy |
do you refer to 5.3, or to something like Steam? |
| 12:51 |
Zughy |
yeah, something more for "the masses" |
| 12:51 |
Zughy |
and I'm saying it as non Steam user |
| 12:55 |
Zughy |
My 2 cents: 'til MTG is there, people will keep refering at Minetest as a MC clone; same for the actual menu, which is not aesthetically appealing. So if I were you (it's just an example) I'd fix those two things before shipping it and considering it "enough" for the mass |
| 12:56 |
rubenwardy |
heh, Minetest would be ripped to shredded on Steam it its current level of quality |
| 12:56 |
rubenwardy |
yeah, those are two things I'd like to fix |
| 12:56 |
Zughy |
Hytale coming up is not helping either, unfortunately |
| 12:57 |
rubenwardy |
Hytale isn't necessarily more competition than Minecraft though, and may help by making the genre more popular |
| 12:57 |
Zughy |
idk, it sounds like some sort of Minecraft, but better |
| 12:58 |
_Zaizen_ |
I think that hytale will only bring players that already play minecraft in the community but maybe it will introduce new players to the genre |
| 12:58 |
Zughy |
especially because Minecraft and modding aren't best friends |
| 13:02 |
DS-minetest |
a brief look into the wikipedia article of that "hytale" thing already shows some cons over minetest: not open source, not for linux, java instead of lua eww |
| 13:03 |
rubenwardy |
Hytale is also pretty firmly in combat? |
| 13:04 |
sfan5 |
I remember hearing that the studio that does Hytale recently got bought by Epic Games |
| 13:05 |
Zughy |
nope, Riot |
| 13:05 |
Zughy |
even worse I'd say |
| 13:05 |
sfan5 |
oh |
| 13:05 |
sfan5 |
is it? Epic is pretty hated in parts of the gaming community |
| 13:06 |
rubenwardy |
they're well funded but hated |
| 13:06 |
Zughy |
Well, riot is 100% owned by Tencent, who's a Chinese company which motto is "Follow our party, start your business". And with party, they mean the Communist Chinese Party, showing its symbol at the entrance of their HQ |
| 13:07 |
Zughy |
so yeah, if you're into human rights, that's a no-go |
| 13:09 |
sfan5 |
oh that's a thing I keep hearing all over gaming communities |
| 13:09 |
sfan5 |
and yet nobody cares that about everything else also comes from China |
| 13:09 |
Zughy |
the same guys dropping a rootkit as an anticheat for Valorant, the new Riot videogame. It gains access to Ring 0 |
| 13:09 |
_Zaizen_ |
And Zughy didn't even mentioned the last anticheat in the last game they released. |
| 13:09 |
Zughy |
HAH! |
| 13:09 |
_Zaizen_ |
Oh here he goes. He mentioned it. |
| 13:10 |
rubenwardy |
fuck the CCP |
| 13:10 |
Zughy |
^ |
| 13:11 |
Zughy |
the point is, you can't expect gamers in their 15s to know all of this stuff. That's why I support Minetest and I try to make it (here in Italy) more.. viable? |
| 13:15 |
DS-minetest |
hmm, a possible slogan for minetest: "Not supporting political parties violating human rights" (don't add a comma there) |
| 13:17 |
_Zaizen_ |
Yeah but the problem I think is that not a lot of people know about the existance of mintest. |
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| 15:02 |
ANAND |
I support disbanding #-hub. While it's nice, well-moderated, and invite-only, I don't quite see the point of its existence, especially these days. |
| 15:04 |
VanessaE |
it isn't invite-only |
| 15:04 |
VanessaE |
but it does require a registered nick to join afaik |
| 15:04 |
rubenwardy |
it's restricted though |
| 15:05 |
ANAND |
Sorry, that's what I meant :) |
| 15:05 |
VanessaE |
if you disband -hub, just make sure #minetest is usable for the same purpose |
| 15:08 |
ANAND |
> My 2 cents: 'til MTG is there, people will keep refering at Minetest as a MC clone; same for the actual menu, which is not aesthetically appealing. So if I were you (it's just an example) I'd fix those two things before shipping it and considering it "enough" for the mass |
| 15:08 |
ANAND |
^ +1 |
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| 15:46 |
Sokomine |
rubenwardy: no! i still value -hub very highly even though i don't always have that much time. it is important that people have a place to get together and can talk. there's still need for that amongst devs, modders and server owners |
| 15:46 |
rubenwardy |
why can't that be done in #minetest, |
| 15:46 |
rubenwardy |
Sokomine? |
| 15:49 |
VanessaE |
because fewer devs hang out in #minetest maybe |
| 15:51 |
Sokomine |
i consider #minetest to be more useful for general discussion - also for help for new players and discussion amongst players. it has a boarder audience, and important points can easily be lost |
| 15:57 |
nerzhul |
why the discord just doesn't become the official thing ? |
| 15:57 |
nerzhul |
irc is raw :D |
| 15:58 |
nerzhul |
i know discord is proprietary, but we have nothing to be hidden and discord has private channel support |
| 15:58 |
nerzhul |
and we are closer to our player base |
| 15:58 |
VanessaE |
fuck discord :P |
| 15:58 |
VanessaE |
you young whippersnappers and your overblown IRC replacements :P |
| 16:00 |
nerzhul |
i'm not so young but i should admit that the player base is there |
| 16:00 |
nerzhul |
and i never miss interesting messages on discord :D |
| 16:01 |
nerzhul |
richer info, richer bots, it can be far more better for us no ? :D |
| 16:01 |
nerzhul |
and it already exists |
| 16:01 |
sfan5 |
endorsing a proprietary chat software isn't the best look for a FOSS project |
| 16:02 |
nerzhul |
all big foss projects these days are using them |
| 16:02 |
sfan5 |
but it's true that lots of the userbase/playerbase use discord these days, so having some solution would be good |
| 16:02 |
VanessaE |
there's nothing about discord that makes a bot any "richer" than IRC. "richer" chat is just "oh let's allow dick pics inline" :P |
| 16:02 |
VanessaE |
(am I wrong?) |
| 16:02 |
sfan5 |
that's not a good argument, in fact it's pretty sad |
| 16:02 |
nerzhul |
you are wrong, as far as i know you have no dick to share Vanessae |
| 16:02 |
VanessaE |
well that aside :P |
| 16:03 |
nerzhul |
many FOSS projects are using slack and not rocket.chat or mattermost |
| 16:03 |
nerzhul |
it's also a question of hosting costs |
| 16:04 |
nerzhul |
and generally a living foss project with various end users on various platform tend to use (unfortunately) easy to use/subscribe/register tools |
| 16:04 |
nerzhul |
in our case as we are a game, discord just destroyed everybody |
| 16:04 |
nerzhul |
i was using ts2 and ts3 in the past (proprietary), then mumble, but all were killed by discord on the WoW community, it's impressive |
| 16:05 |
VanessaE |
and when discord is gone in 5 years because it became unprofitable, IRC will still be here. |
| 16:05 |
nerzhul |
discord has sufficient usebase to convince people |
| 16:05 |
nerzhul |
see Twitter which is loosing money, it's always here :D |
| 16:05 |
VanessaE |
(or because some other chat service takes its market share) |
| 16:06 |
nerzhul |
it's too late to change, discord has the users, the video stream, the bots, the integraitons the audio, the public/private chats, the moderation, the roles, it's all you want as a gamer |
| 16:06 |
nerzhul |
twitch is the public scene, discord the private. The only who can defeat discord is twitch building one or buying discord i nfact |
| 16:07 |
VanessaE |
the same things were said of every other "big new thing" that's come about since the web was opened to everyone. where is America Online? didn't IT have that same critical mass? |
| 16:07 |
nerzhul |
america online was an ISP right ? |
| 16:07 |
nerzhul |
AOL ? |
| 16:07 |
VanessaE |
nope |
| 16:07 |
nerzhul |
yahoo is still there :D |
| 16:08 |
VanessaE |
originally a private service before home internet was a thing |
| 16:08 |
VanessaE |
then they connected to it... then Eternal September happened :P |
| 16:08 |
nerzhul |
ah, but it was another era, where it was just technical things |
| 16:08 |
VanessaE |
nah |
| 16:08 |
nerzhul |
now you have public mass, and public mass acquired means win |
| 16:08 |
VanessaE |
it was for everyone. they really made it idiot friendly |
| 16:09 |
nerzhul |
look at facebook, oh a concurrent, instagram, sounds to kill my user base, ok i buy it. whatsapp is the new generation chat app which will kill messenger ? ok i buy it :D |
| 16:09 |
VanessaE |
"public mass" just means more eyeballs to sell to someone else when the time comes. |
| 16:09 |
nerzhul |
yeah but i don't see which want the gamer data other than twitch for discord, you have an idea ? :D |
| 16:09 |
nerzhul |
facebook gaming ? :D |
| 16:09 |
VanessaE |
what about it? didn't those supposedly kill AIM, ICQ, the MS messenger one, YIM, and the others? |
| 16:10 |
nerzhul |
who ? discord ? |
| 16:10 |
nerzhul |
discord defeated microsoft classrom shit :D |
| 16:10 |
VanessaE |
facebook and instagram I meant. |
| 16:11 |
nerzhul |
(many french teachers uses it to do learning these days lol) |
| 16:11 |
VanessaE |
every 5 or so years someone comes along with "it's newer! better! richer!!", and eventually it dies when the money stops flowing, and we're back to good old reliable IRC. :P |
| 16:11 |
nerzhul |
facebook has 16 years this year :D |
| 16:11 |
VanessaE |
facebook is more than its messenger though |
| 16:12 |
nerzhul |
i agree IRC is quite reliable but the protocol never changed to add new features since age :( |
| 16:12 |
VanessaE |
and as chats go, it sucks ass harder than an astronaut's rear end exposed to the vacuum of space |
| 16:12 |
nerzhul |
if i want to send my dick i should upload it and ensure you will click on it, it's anoying no ? xD |
| 16:12 |
nerzhul |
(and no i will never do that) |
| 16:13 |
VanessaE |
point being, inline images are a guarantee of getting objectionable content in front of more eyes than if you're required to click. |
| 16:14 |
nerzhul |
yeah but everyone is not 4 chan user no ? :D |
| 16:14 |
VanessaE |
the user is hostile. |
| 16:14 |
VanessaE |
always, ALWAYS assume that. |
| 16:15 |
VanessaE |
first G*d damned rule of networkingh. |
| 16:15 |
rubenwardy |
I've never seen objectionable content on Discord |
| 16:15 |
VanessaE |
always assume the client's only purpose is to fuck you up/over. |
| 16:15 |
rubenwardy |
I have on IRC |
| 16:17 |
* Sokomine |
nods to vanessae and thinks that discord shall not be considered as relevant here |
| 16:17 |
VanessaE |
I don't use discord at all (other than I have an account there if it turns out to be needed for something and to guard my identity) so I've never seen anything objectionable :P |
| 16:18 |
VanessaE |
imho, chat is inherently either text or voice and for the latter, there's mumble, skype, and a dozen others. and it's easy enough to share an imgur link over IRC. |
| 16:19 |
rubenwardy |
in the 8 years I've been here, there's never been a voice chat |
| 16:19 |
nerzhul |
in case somebody likes modern tech <= https://discord.gg/uAkJy9 (or a preview of what it is :D) |
| 16:19 |
rubenwardy |
in Discord, there's one nearly every night |
| 16:20 |
VanessaE |
nice preview :P https://imgur.com/RAfbxPG.png |
| 16:20 |
nerzhul |
i'd like to hear you nice voice ruben, and you will learn my perfect english french accent :D |
| 16:21 |
rubenwardy |
oh no |
| 16:21 |
nerzhul |
sorry your image doesn't autoload in my irc client :D |
| 16:21 |
Sokomine |
VanessaE: yes, i remember the bad reputation aol and its users had back in the area when whe still had newsboards shared via uucp instead of forums |
| 16:21 |
VanessaE |
nerzhul: point of the image: you linked to something that requires a login to view. instant fail. |
| 16:21 |
nerzhul |
but honestly just take time to read, look at topics and you will see what you can like or not on it, without that it's not a real test :D |
| 16:22 |
nerzhul |
if i want to view there i cannot if i don't have an account |
| 16:22 |
VanessaE |
every G*d damned website wants people to create accounts for shit that should not need it. |
| 16:22 |
VanessaE |
and I'm honestly tired of it. |
| 16:22 |
nerzhul |
you are registered with your mail on IRC too |
| 16:23 |
Sokomine |
nerzhul: that the protocol of irc didn't change is a huge plus. not all people need to talk in pictures to communicate :-) |
| 16:23 |
VanessaE |
only for -hub |
| 16:23 |
VanessaE |
you don't need that on #minetest |
| 16:23 |
nerzhul |
where is the shit, the gun, and the banana emoji, seriously :D |
| 16:23 |
VanessaE |
???? |
| 16:23 |
nerzhul |
wow it works, just not friendly to insert with any client |
| 16:24 |
VanessaE |
there are some. sorry, I don't know the shortcuts for the ones you mentioned :P |
| 16:24 |
VanessaE |
I use plain old hexchat. |
| 16:24 |
nerzhul |
yep me too |
| 16:24 |
rubenwardy |
hmmm https://rwdy.uk/35cgJ.png |
| 16:24 |
nerzhul |
:poop: |
| 16:24 |
nerzhul |
arf copy paste doesnt work |
| 16:24 |
VanessaE |
and emoji are unicode. if they don't work you just need better fonts. |
| 16:24 |
nerzhul |
ah no heart for ruben |
| 16:24 |
VanessaE |
yeah hexchat doesn't do colon notaiton |
| 16:25 |
VanessaE |
notation* |
| 16:25 |
nerzhul |
another irc problem: client support for unicodes :D |
| 16:25 |
sfan5 |
worksforme https://a.uguu.se/N0ZcanpHnpc2_.png |
| 16:25 |
sfan5 |
(although it's a little cut off at the top, I think that's a hexchat bug) |
| 16:25 |
Sokomine |
nerzhul: btw, while i can get along quite well with written english, spoken english would be an entirely diffrent matter and much more complicated for me at least |
| 16:25 |
VanessaE |
oh, and I typed those with X11 compose. Compose + 1, Compose < 3, Compose : D, Compose X D |
| 16:26 |
VanessaE |
seems simple to me. |
| 16:26 |
nerzhul |
Sokomine, discord doesn't requires you to talk :D |
| 16:26 |
nerzhul |
? |
| 16:26 |
nerzhul |
yeah it works :D |
| 16:26 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: yours is ugly :) https://imgur.com/zkqJPud.png |
| 16:27 |
VanessaE |
mine is just...debian's default :) |
| 16:27 |
nerzhul |
i have same rendering as vanessae, i think sfan5 has old version |
| 16:27 |
nerzhul |
(archlinux current version) |
| 16:27 |
sfan5 |
nah I have the Windows 10 fonts installed, those are the Microsoft emoji |
| 16:27 |
VanessaE |
(this is debian testing/buster) |
| 16:27 |
Sokomine |
no, i see only two squares and two...don't know. half-filled circles? and...i think i can live quite well without a shit, gun and banana emoji :-) the good old smilies are fine enough :) |
| 16:27 |
nerzhul |
buster is not testing currently |
| 16:27 |
VanessaE |
oh, did they release it? |
| 16:28 |
nerzhul |
Sokomine works on a Apple 2 with ANSI support only ? :D |
| 16:28 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 16:28 |
sfan5 |
no, the packaging scripts extract the fonts from a real w10 installation |
| 16:28 |
rubenwardy |
nerzhul: I'm in voice now btw |
| 16:28 |
nerzhul |
i will take an apero with my wife :D |
| 16:29 |
sfan5 |
(just noticed that question might not have been aimed at me, but someone might still find the information useful) |
| 16:29 |
nerzhul |
what i like on discord #engine channel: people are just cool and show their bug easily with screenshots :D |
| 16:29 |
Sokomine |
nerzhul: no :-) definitely not. don't like ios. but don't care about emojies at all either (though i do like smileys) |
| 16:29 |
VanessaE |
Printscreen -> "host on Imgur" -> copy URL -> paste here |
| 16:29 |
nerzhul |
i said apple 2, not iphone 2 :D |
| 16:30 |
VanessaE |
and the copy comes from the screenshot program, how much easier does it need to get? |
| 16:30 |
nerzhul |
i paste the photo on discord directly and it's shared, no more third party site :D |
| 16:30 |
VanessaE |
discord is a third-party site :P |
| 16:30 |
VanessaE |
you really think they don't use a CDN for that stuff? |
| 16:30 |
VanessaE |
(if they don't, they're stupid) |
| 16:31 |
Sokomine |
anyway...while i don't like discord and definitely don't want this channel to be replaced by it, there are many players on it. so it's great if some people volunteer to be on discord and talk to its users |
| 16:31 |
nerzhul |
oh they use it but i don't see the point here |
| 16:32 |
nerzhul |
yeah it's fine, and on discord i saw that some servers has their own private discord linked to the general one |
| 16:32 |
Sokomine |
that's also fine if the servers and the players on them like it |
| 16:33 |
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| 16:34 |
VanessaE |
for individual projects within the Minetest community, Discord is just fine. There's an unofficial one for just my servers (which I also don't use, I stick to IRC). But NOT for the community as a whole. |
| 16:35 |
nerzhul |
maybe the solution is to keep both as intended, but promote the unofficial one a little bit more to be more official ? it became bit itself one of the ibggest community base |
| 16:35 |
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| 16:36 |
rubenwardy |
the unofficial one has 850 members, of which 200-300 are online at a time |
| 16:37 |
rubenwardy |
Discord is easy to join, so not all of those will be contributing members |
| 16:38 |
VanessaE |
in its heyday, IRC had tens of thousands of active users... |
| 16:39 |
VanessaE |
but then, that's the whole network, not individual channels. |
| 16:39 |
rubenwardy |
in its heyday :) |
| 16:39 |
nerzhul |
yeah, and discord has million one currently, but don't compare the global userbase, just the per project :D |
| 16:40 |
Krock |
it's a 420 day in a 420 year |
| 16:40 |
VanessaE |
yep |
| 16:40 |
VanessaE |
smoke 'em if you got 'em :) |
| 16:40 |
Krock |
thoughts? |
| 16:41 |
VanessaE |
Krock: too late for you I guess, but USA folks could spark one up in a few hours :) |
| 16:41 |
Krock |
!tell ANAND @auto rotation: Well, that patch is to apply whatever rotation is sent by the server. It's not meant to make automatic rotation a 3D vector |
| 16:41 |
MinetestBot |
Krock: yeah, yeah |
| 16:41 |
Krock |
<3 MinetestBot |
| 16:41 |
MinetestBot |
<3 Krock |
| 16:42 |
Krock |
VanessaE: indeed. had somewhat different to do than thinking about it at 4:20 |
| 16:42 |
VanessaE |
heh |
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| 17:58 |
_Zaizen_ |
About the discord discussion I just want to say that IRC is old but also the most reliable one in the long term. |
| 17:58 |
_Zaizen_ |
My parents knew each other on ad irc 20 years ago and ircs still exists even though they haven't been updated for ages. |
| 17:58 |
_Zaizen_ |
Discord is a proprietary solution and I think that is not suited for a Foss project. I would prefer something like |
| 17:58 |
_Zaizen_ |
telegram that at least respect user privacy. |
| 18:00 |
nerzhul |
as i said it depends on the foss project. Many foss projects are using slack |
| 18:00 |
nerzhul |
many foss project are nowadays commercial too |
| 18:00 |
nerzhul |
:) |
| 18:00 |
nerzhul |
it depends where you put the cursor, but one of our problem in the past was to be far fro mthe community, at least the unofficial discord solved it partially |
| 18:03 |
_Zaizen_ |
Yes the discord is easier for casual players to access because a lot of them don't even know what an irc is. |
| 18:03 |
nerzhul |
yep and it's a little bit raw :D |
| 18:03 |
VanessaE |
if they can learn how to go to discord, they can learn to use hexchat et al. |
| 18:05 |
_Zaizen_ |
The problem with that is that they have to install things and learn to use them. They want to be feeded like babies with the "easy" solution they already know. |
| 18:05 |
VanessaE |
I refuse to coddle people who refuse to learn to install a program :) |
| 18:06 |
VanessaE |
remember, these same people don't even know what a web browser is. |
| 18:06 |
_Zaizen_ |
I also refuse that but I have to admit that discord would help the community to grow even though I hate discord. |
| 18:06 |
nerzhul |
remember, discord has screen sharing and voice, ti's important in gaming :D |
| 18:06 |
nerzhul |
especially on multiplayer gaming |
| 18:07 |
_Zaizen_ |
No one cares about screen sharing lol. I've never needed it in the 3 years i've used ts3. And i talk about servers with 60 on.... |
| 18:08 |
VanessaE |
nerzhul: yeah, so's SWATting :P |
| 18:08 |
rubenwardy |
VanessaE: these people know how to install programs they'd just rather use a good chat system rather than an archiac one |
| 18:08 |
nerzhul |
looking for the minetest discord, it's used once per day at minimum to share things :D |
| 18:08 |
rubenwardy |
also, it's not just installing a program |
| 18:08 |
rubenwardy |
nickserv registering, clocking, SASL, bouncers |
| 18:08 |
nerzhul |
on irc you need to know commands |
| 18:08 |
rubenwardy |
you get that all for free in Discord |
| 18:09 |
VanessaE |
meh, I give up |
| 18:09 |
nerzhul |
you want to show your mod code to a friend when you are developing, you screen share :D |
| 18:09 |
rubenwardy |
I've been using Keybase recently, that's pretty nice |
| 18:10 |
rubenwardy |
doesn't have all the bells and whistles, but it's open source and has end-to-end encryption |
| 18:10 |
rubenwardy |
Updated https://github.com/rubenwardy/docker_phpbb |
| 18:11 |
rubenwardy |
now uses a docker image based on php:7-apache |
| 18:11 |
nerzhul |
wrong chan no ? :D and you are on irc you cannot remove it :D |
| 18:11 |
sfan5 |
non-deletable messages are a misfeature IMO |
| 18:11 |
VanessaE |
THAT is a plus imho. |
| 18:11 |
sfan5 |
I hate how on most platforms these days anything can disappear for any reason |
| 18:11 |
sfan5 |
sure it sucks when you post something you didn't want to |
| 18:11 |
sfan5 |
but eh |
| 18:12 |
rubenwardy |
oops |
| 18:12 |
rubenwardy |
doesn't matter |
| 18:12 |
VanessaE |
being able to delete a comment in an active chat is just stupid. |
| 18:12 |
sfan5 |
quick! hide the secret docker configuration |
| 18:12 |
VanessaE |
(in social media or something, it kinda has purpose) |
| 18:12 |
rubenwardy |
it's a public repo \o/ |
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| 19:21 |
Sokomine |
VanessaE: why too late for krock? |
| 19:22 |
Krock |
it's past 4:20 pm |
| 19:22 |
VanessaE |
yeah, he's in. er... eastern Europe somewhere? |
| 19:23 |
VanessaE |
(Germany wasn't it?) |
| 19:25 |
Krock |
the the time zone is correct, so I'll let you count that |
| 19:25 |
Sokomine |
no, we consider ourselves western or probably central europe i think (depends on where you're looking from?). it's 21:25 here right now |
| 19:25 |
_Zaizen_ |
same for me. |
| 19:25 |
Krock |
inb4 when they learn about /ctcp USER TIME |
| 19:26 |
VanessaE |
well wtf do I know, I live in dumbfuckistan :P |
| 19:28 |
Sokomine |
let's just use those who like discord use it. if some people volunteer to support it more, that's excellent. but it's no replacement for irc. not for us here |
| 19:28 |
Krock |
relevant https://xkcd.com/1782/ |
| 19:30 |
Sokomine |
krock: *g* excellent :-) |
| 19:31 |
VanessaE |
yup! |
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MinetestBot |
ANAND: Apr-20 16:41 UTC <Krock> @auto rotation: Well, that patch is to apply whatever rotation is sent by the server. It's not meant to make automatic rotation a 3D vector |
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TommyTreasure |
i've been playing at Xanadu the past few weeks, and every so often, the sky turns black, and no sun or moon appear. i believe they're running 5.2.0. is this a known issue, or just something at Xanadu? |
