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IRC log for #minetest-hub, 2019-01-15

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00:55 ircSparky is minetest storage not hackable? (putting values in while minetest is running)
00:55 MinetestBot ircSparky: Jan-14 13:26 UTC <Xiong> ircSparky, I owe you an apology. I think I was right to say what I did but I said it far too harshly. I had no right to be cruel to you.
00:55 MinetestBot ircSparky: Jan-14 21:40 UTC <Xiong> What makes it worse is that I intended to argue against an attitude of indifference to others' feelings... and in the process ignored yours; a poor example indeed. My deepest apologies are yours.
00:55 ircSparky oof
00:56 ircSparky I really want to put values in the csm mod storage :P
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03:59 sofar ircSparky: putting data into mod_storage while MT is running using some other process writing the files isn't supported. It might work, or create horrible mess
04:01 sofar I don't think it would even work, tbh, the mod_storage object already exists and most likely it'll never see the changes to the file
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06:33 luk3yx The MT Google Play page should be more clear that MT is not trying to be an exact copy of MC and that mods significantly improve the gameplay.
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15:50 IhrFussel Hello guys^^ What is the best approach for a "shared party members" system? Right now a certain table stores the EXP gained and every 3 minutes it saves them + displays in chat ... but if I loop through party members inside the online list loop then it#s possible that members should get shared EXP who have already been handled by the loop ... I only can think of 2 loops in globalstep -> 1. Loop through online
15:50 IhrFussel users and check party members for each + give bonus EXP 2. loop again through online players and give each their regular + bonus EXP
15:53 IhrFussel So an example: regular EXP is 50 and bonus 10 -> globalstep happens after 3 minutes -> loop 1 (check which player is allowed to get bonus EXP and store that info) -> loop 2 (add bonus EXP to regular EXP and display/save)
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17:03 sofar IhrFussel: why would you delay giving the EXP? can you solve the problem by immediately granting the EXP and storing instead how much shared EXP was collected per interval, and then regularly report on that?
17:11 rubenwardy interesting thread: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=9709
17:11 rubenwardy !title
17:11 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Wishes for Minetest 0.4.11 (or 0.5) - Minetest Forums
17:13 nerzhul interesting, 7 releases ago :D
17:13 nerzhul 0.4.11 was my first MT release
17:14 nerzhul some are hopefully fixed
17:15 rubenwardy 0.3.1 was my first release
17:15 rubenwardy only 2 years before then
17:15 nerzhul wow you are so old :D
17:15 nerzhul grand pa mt
17:16 rubenwardy "why the f*** is there no sound"     -- me in 2012
17:17 rubenwardy "I hate this shit"    --me after leaving an unlit cave with exposed stone under my pure wood house
17:17 rubenwardy (Dungeon Masters spawned in those situations)
18:11 rubenwardy anyone speak french here?
18:14 _Xenon A bit
18:14 rubenwardy "You're using a version which is 5 years old (June 2013)! That's very old and will be missing many necessary fixes. Please update."
18:14 rubenwardy Some French teacher posted an image which showed they were using 0.4.7
18:16 Fixer lol
18:23 Fixer rubenwardy: nerzhul is french speaking
18:23 _Xenon Vous utilisez une version très caduque (cet version était  actuelle il y a 5 ans, Juin 2013)! Beaucoup de fixes importants, mettre à jour s'il vous plaît.
18:24 _Xenon ^ Quite bad french though i guess
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19:33 Fixer also, about those Dungeon Masters (Pedobears)... they are still not reimplamanted because... just because... remember carts?
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20:39 Calinou rubenwardy: "Vous utilisez une version très ancienne (sortie en juin 2013) ! Veuillez mettre à jour pour bénéficier des derniers correctifs."
20:42 _Xenon Ah way better :D
20:43 rubenwardy thanks
20:45 sofar merci
20:45 rubenwardy merci boocoo
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20:46 rubenwardy this is why I don't translate French for myself
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21:09 nerzhul _Xenon: your translation is very ugly
21:09 _Xenon ik ^^ My french is ugly too
21:09 nerzhul Vous utilisez une version obsolète du logiciel (apparue en juin 2013). Merci de bien vouloir mettre à jour celui-ci pour bénéficier des derniers correctifs et des dernières améliorations.
21:09 nerzhul better french meaning with nice sentences
21:10 _Xenon :)
21:11 Fixer Too much words for "Please update to 0.4.17, thanks"
21:13 nerzhul i think the date is useless
21:13 _Xenon I might be more useful translating to German or Spanish probably
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21:48 IhrFussel "Du benutzt eine Version die bereits 5 Jahre alt ist (Juni 2013)! Das ist sehr lange her und es fehlen viele benötigte Fehlerbehebungen. Bitte aktualisieren."
21:48 IhrFussel There you go
21:53 Sokomine just move the exclamation mark from the end of the first sentence to the end of the last one
21:55 Sokomine and those 5 years will become more in the future...
21:55 rubenwardy Does Soko mean anything?
21:55 rubenwardy random question
21:59 Sokomine in a way it does
22:03 sofar is it derivative of sokoban?
22:03 rubenwardy I was going to make a project called ruban
22:03 rubenwardy RuBAN
22:03 rubenwardy thought it would be quite funny
22:04 rubenwardy https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/c41bdf538b4b06b2b4e6
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22:18 sofar federated banning was part of mt2fa's goals
22:18 sofar rubenwardy: I still want to implement it somehow
22:18 sofar but, a simple client/server list mechanism may just work
22:19 sofar the only problem is fake data, mt2fa has some protections against it
22:19 rubenwardy I also had a design for a redundant central login system which would allow banning
22:20 sofar at some point I may start actually using mt2fa :)
22:21 sofar even if just in opt-in mode
22:24 rubenwardy I've decided that I'm going to start deploying my server in docker
22:24 rubenwardy makes things easier
22:24 rubenwardy https://github.com/MT-CTF/docker
22:25 rubenwardy I have another private repo for shared containers    (ie: prometheus, etc)
22:26 nerzhul rubenwardy: why not use our registry as a source ?
22:26 rubenwardy where?
22:26 nerzhul docker for mt singleinstance is a little bit overkill
22:26 rubenwardy I'm going to be running multiple servers
22:27 sofar I no likey docker
22:27 rubenwardy it means that I'll be able to have postgresql as a container too
22:27 sofar it's been playing unfair games
22:27 rubenwardy which makes it easier to test things locally
22:27 rubenwardy oh?
22:27 nerzhul FROM registry.gitlab.com/minetest/minetest/server:master
22:27 sofar random broken docker containers without me knowing
22:27 nerzhul postgres official image is nice
22:27 rubenwardy what would be the best way to apply random commits?
22:27 rubenwardy I run a modified version of 0.4.17.1 for CTF
22:27 nerzhul on the source ?
22:28 nerzhul you should build yourself the container using the repo dockerfile on a fork
22:28 rubenwardy because CTF requires   register_on_userlimit_skip
22:28 rubenwardy yeah, hmm
22:28 nerzhul and if you want host it on gitlab to have the gitlab registry for your image :)
22:28 nerzhul then fork mt on gitlab, do you modification
22:28 nerzhul and you will have an image per commit and per branch
22:28 nerzhul for example: registry.gitlab.com/minetest/minetest/server:f5de187b6c76a4c7b30d565d73cfe51e159961c0
22:28 nerzhul :)
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23:49 rubenwardy https://minecraft.ign.fr/
23:50 rubenwardy supports creation of Minetest worlds from a map
23:50 jas_ I could have sworn minetest had a --nosound option.  Ah well: #8107
23:50 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8107 -- Minetest doesn't start on Windows with sound device disabled.
23:50 jas_

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