Time  Nick        Message
00:55 ircSparky   is minetest storage not hackable? (putting values in while minetest is running)
00:55 MinetestBot ircSparky: Jan-14 13:26 UTC <Xiong> ircSparky, I owe you an apology. I think I was right to say what I did but I said it far too harshly. I had no right to be cruel to you.
00:55 MinetestBot ircSparky: Jan-14 21:40 UTC <Xiong> What makes it worse is that I intended to argue against an attitude of indifference to others' feelings... and in the process ignored yours; a poor example indeed. My deepest apologies are yours.
00:55 ircSparky   oof
00:56 ircSparky   I really want to put values in the csm mod storage :P
03:59 sofar       ircSparky: putting data into mod_storage while MT is running using some other process writing the files isn't supported. It might work, or create horrible mess
04:01 sofar       I don't think it would even work, tbh, the mod_storage object already exists and most likely it'll never see the changes to the file
06:33 luk3yx      The MT Google Play page should be more clear that MT is not trying to be an exact copy of MC and that mods significantly improve the gameplay.
15:50 IhrFussel   Hello guys^^ What is the best approach for a "shared party members" system? Right now a certain table stores the EXP gained and every 3 minutes it saves them + displays in chat ... but if I loop through party members inside the online list loop then it#s possible that members should get shared EXP who have already been handled by the loop ... I only can think of 2 loops in globalstep -> 1. Loop through online
15:50 IhrFussel   users and check party members for each + give bonus EXP 2. loop again through online players and give each their regular + bonus EXP
15:53 IhrFussel   So an example: regular EXP is 50 and bonus 10 -> globalstep happens after 3 minutes -> loop 1 (check which player is allowed to get bonus EXP and store that info) -> loop 2 (add bonus EXP to regular EXP and display/save)
17:03 sofar       IhrFussel: why would you delay giving the EXP? can you solve the problem by immediately granting the EXP and storing instead how much shared EXP was collected per interval, and then regularly report on that?
17:11 rubenwardy  interesting thread: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9709
17:11 rubenwardy  !title
17:11 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Wishes for Minetest 0.4.11 (or 0.5) - Minetest Forums
17:13 nerzhul     interesting, 7 releases ago :D
17:13 nerzhul     0.4.11 was my first MT release
17:14 nerzhul     some are hopefully fixed
17:15 rubenwardy  0.3.1 was my first release
17:15 rubenwardy  only 2 years before then
17:15 nerzhul     wow you are so old :D
17:15 nerzhul     grand pa mt
17:16 rubenwardy  "why the f*** is there no sound"     -- me in 2012
17:17 rubenwardy  "I hate this shit"    --me after leaving an unlit cave with exposed stone under my pure wood house
17:17 rubenwardy  (Dungeon Masters spawned in those situations)
18:11 rubenwardy  anyone speak french here?
18:14 _Xenon      A bit
18:14 rubenwardy  "You're using a version which is 5 years old (June 2013)! That's very old and will be missing many necessary fixes. Please update."
18:14 rubenwardy  Some French teacher posted an image which showed they were using 0.4.7
18:16 Fixer       lol
18:23 Fixer       rubenwardy: nerzhul is french speaking
18:23 _Xenon      Vous utilisez une version très caduque (cet version était  actuelle il y a 5 ans, Juin 2013)! Beaucoup de fixes importants, mettre à jour s'il vous plaît.
18:24 _Xenon      ^ Quite bad french though i guess
19:33 Fixer       also, about those Dungeon Masters (Pedobears)... they are still not reimplamanted because... just because... remember carts?
20:39 Calinou     rubenwardy: "Vous utilisez une version très ancienne (sortie en juin 2013) ! Veuillez mettre à jour pour bénéficier des derniers correctifs."
20:42 _Xenon      Ah way better :D
20:43 rubenwardy  thanks
20:45 sofar       merci
20:45 rubenwardy  merci boocoo
20:46 rubenwardy  this is why I don't translate French for myself
21:09 nerzhul     _Xenon: your translation is very ugly
21:09 _Xenon      ik ^^ My french is ugly too
21:09 nerzhul     Vous utilisez une version obsolète du logiciel (apparue en juin 2013). Merci de bien vouloir mettre à jour celui-ci pour bénéficier des derniers correctifs et des dernières améliorations.
21:09 nerzhul     better french meaning with nice sentences
21:10 _Xenon      :)
21:11 Fixer       Too much words for "Please update to 0.4.17, thanks"
21:13 nerzhul     i think the date is useless
21:13 _Xenon      I might be more useful translating to German or Spanish probably
21:48 IhrFussel   "Du benutzt eine Version die bereits 5 Jahre alt ist (Juni 2013)! Das ist sehr lange her und es fehlen viele benötigte Fehlerbehebungen. Bitte aktualisieren."
21:48 IhrFussel   There you go
21:53 Sokomine    just move the exclamation mark from the end of the first sentence to the end of the last one
21:55 Sokomine    and those 5 years will become more in the future...
21:55 rubenwardy  Does Soko mean anything?
21:55 rubenwardy  random question
21:59 Sokomine    in a way it does
22:03 sofar       is it derivative of sokoban?
22:03 rubenwardy  I was going to make a project called ruban
22:03 rubenwardy  RuBAN
22:03 rubenwardy  thought it would be quite funny
22:04 rubenwardy  https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/c41bdf538b4b06b2b4e6
22:18 sofar       federated banning was part of mt2fa's goals
22:18 sofar       rubenwardy: I still want to implement it somehow
22:18 sofar       but, a simple client/server list mechanism may just work
22:19 sofar       the only problem is fake data, mt2fa has some protections against it
22:19 rubenwardy  I also had a design for a redundant central login system which would allow banning
22:20 sofar       at some point I may start actually using mt2fa :)
22:21 sofar       even if just in opt-in mode
22:24 rubenwardy  I've decided that I'm going to start deploying my server in docker
22:24 rubenwardy  makes things easier
22:24 rubenwardy  https://github.com/MT-CTF/docker
22:25 rubenwardy  I have another private repo for shared containers    (ie: prometheus, etc)
22:26 nerzhul     rubenwardy: why not use our registry as a source ?
22:26 rubenwardy  where?
22:26 nerzhul     docker for mt singleinstance is a little bit overkill
22:26 rubenwardy  I'm going to be running multiple servers
22:27 sofar       I no likey docker
22:27 rubenwardy  it means that I'll be able to have postgresql as a container too
22:27 sofar       it's been playing unfair games
22:27 rubenwardy  which makes it easier to test things locally
22:27 rubenwardy  oh?
22:27 nerzhul     FROM registry.gitlab.com/minetest/minetest/server:master
22:27 sofar       random broken docker containers without me knowing
22:27 nerzhul     postgres official image is nice
22:27 rubenwardy  what would be the best way to apply random commits?
22:27 rubenwardy  I run a modified version of 0.4.17.1 for CTF
22:27 nerzhul     on the source ?
22:28 nerzhul     you should build yourself the container using the repo dockerfile on a fork
22:28 rubenwardy  because CTF requires   register_on_userlimit_skip
22:28 rubenwardy  yeah, hmm
22:28 nerzhul     and if you want host it on gitlab to have the gitlab registry for your image :)
22:28 nerzhul     then fork mt on gitlab, do you modification
22:28 nerzhul     and you will have an image per commit and per branch
22:28 nerzhul     for example: registry.gitlab.com/minetest/minetest/server:f5de187b6c76a4c7b30d565d73cfe51e159961c0
22:28 nerzhul     :)
23:49 rubenwardy  https://minecraft.ign.fr/
23:50 rubenwardy  supports creation of Minetest worlds from a map
23:50 jas_        I could have sworn minetest had a --nosound option.  Ah well: #8107
23:50 ShadowBot   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8107 -- Minetest doesn't start on Windows with sound device disabled.
23:50 jas_        ♥