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IRC log for #minetest-hub, 2018-12-23

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Time Nick Message
00:10 IhrFussel Their Twitter is FULL of screenshots of their Hytale game ... it smells a lot like attention seeking
00:11 Fixer IhrFussel: link?
00:12 IhrFussel https://twitter.com/hypixel
00:12 IhrFussel They use the name wherever they can
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00:14 Fixer IhrFussel: those are probably just renders
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04:06 NathanS21 do settingtypes have a max length? I've been having issues with some of my names, and it appears to be related to how long the name is.
04:11 NathanS21 Nevermind, turns out if the world existed before the setting was created it is ignored until it is toggled.
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15:45 Fixer o_o
15:46 Fixer what time is it? compiling time
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16:03 nerzhul Fixer : yeah because it's snowing and cold ? :D
16:20 Fixer more like raining
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17:53 Krock hi Fixer
17:53 Fixer hi Krock
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20:07 Fixer "Stalker ATI bugfix"
20:07 Fixer WE STARTED TO FORGOT
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20:18 Fixer "The infamous disappearing-window bug with Windows 10 1809 has been worked around." WinShit we deserve
20:19 IhrFussel Hello guys^^ I'm testing the newest apk by stu right now with the main menu images fix...and it seems to work correctly
20:19 Fixer hello, ty, your input is valuable
20:20 IhrFussel It only drains a few MBs RAM when going through the pages but that is normal I guess
20:26 IhrFussel Wow...I only added 1 mod (aliveai) and the RAM usage is already 3 to 4 times higher vs vanilla MTG ... I guess advanced mods are not really recommended for phones
20:28 IhrFussel LOL crash... "set_yaw: NaN value is n..." (rest is cut)
20:30 IhrFussel How do you get NaN is lua?
20:30 IhrFussel in lua*
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20:32 IhrFussel Can MT Android still not detect tha language??
20:33 IhrFussel the* It's only in English
20:45 IhrFussel "sneak + rightclick" is NOT gonna work on mobile dear modders
20:46 IhrFussel sneak + leftclick is already hard to do
20:48 IhrFussel advanced trains requires sneak + rightclick to ignore closed doors and get off ... that is bad design for mobile devices
20:49 IhrFussel In case you didn't know rightclick means "quick double tap" on mobile ... so basically tap the screen quickly twice WHILE also pressing the "arrow down" button in the corner
20:50 IhrFussel Not gonna happen
20:50 IhrFussel Looks like it would have to be perfectly timed to register as actual sneak + click
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21:22 IhrFussel Are core devs even reading the log from here? Sometimes I think no...I said yesterday that VANILLA MTG requires only 100 MB RAM on Android...so in theory it might even work on 256 MB phones although barely ... but 512 MB and up is definitely possible
21:22 IhrFussel nerzhul ^
21:23 IhrFussel MT is no cutting edge game and you can tune it even further by adjusting view range (which is not essential to be 50, it was 30 in the past and that worked fine too)
21:25 IhrFussel And client mapblocks in memory limit might be a bit too high on low spec phones... 1,000 is the default on Android but 1,000 mapblocks can eat quite a bit of RAM ... 500 should be fine there too
21:28 IhrFussel BTW I think the "Reset singleplayer world" button needs to be removed
21:28 IhrFussel Cause Android now has the full world select menu
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21:31 paramat 'Reset singleplayer world' still shows with full menu?
21:31 IhrFussel Yep under Advanced Settings
21:31 IhrFussel I mean Settings
21:31 paramat thanks that should go
21:32 IhrFussel I clicked it...didn't do anything
21:32 paramat yes it should have been removed in a recent commit
21:33 IhrFussel Does it try to delete a world named "Singleplayer" or just "world"?
21:33 paramat https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/b8b33a6423ad3d0ac1d701b91099e3a70e4f6197/builtin/mainmenu/tab_settings.lua#L223
21:33 paramat that line needs to check for simple menu
21:33 paramat i'll make an issue
21:34 paramat and/or fix it
21:35 IhrFussel Haha it tries to delete a world named "singleplayerworld"
21:35 IhrFussel I was close
21:35 paramat ah
21:36 IhrFussel So...if I create a world with that name...it should work one se
21:36 IhrFussel sec*
21:36 IhrFussel LOL...it says that world already exists
21:37 IhrFussel But is listed nowhere
21:37 IhrFussel Wait it is
21:38 IhrFussel That is weird...I didn't create it myself
21:39 IhrFussel It gets created when you click that button BUT the worlds menu doesn't update with the 'singleplayerworld' world
21:39 IhrFussel You have to close the game or enter a world and leave again to make it appear
21:40 paramat possibly only works with simple menu
21:41 IhrFussel To make the world appear in the normal list you have to 1. Click the button and confirm deletion 2. Enter any other world 3. Leave that world -> singleplayerworld now exists
21:42 IhrFussel And it chooses the game for you it seems...you cannot choose the game singleplayerworld uses
21:42 IhrFussel That is a problem
21:43 IhrFussel In my case it uses Lord of the Test
21:43 IhrFussel Cauzse that's the most recent game I downloaded
21:44 paramat yes simple menu doesn't give game choice, we'll probably remove that code entirely
21:44 IhrFussel It really uses the most recent game you added right?
21:46 IhrFussel No matter what I do "use reset button" "delete singleplayerworld manually from list" 'singleplayerworld' always has LotT as game
21:49 IhrFussel Now I'll download another game and reset SP world again
21:50 IhrFussel Yep 100% confirmed
21:50 IhrFussel Now SP world has the new game I just downloaded
21:54 IhrFussel paramat, is that intentional? That the SP world always uses the most recent game the user added/downloaded?
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21:59 paramat seems correct for simpe menu
22:03 IhrFussel Why is simple menu needed though? Creating a world is a one-time thing...select one is arguably the same with full menu
22:13 paramat PR up
22:13 paramat it's not needed anymore and will probably be removed
22:14 paramat it was originally added to create menus small enough to work with android, but we've sorted out menu scaling now
22:15 paramat simple menu is basically bad
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22:30 IhrFussel paramat, it really is bad it doesn't even SELECT you a game? I thought you could do that under 'Config mods' but apparently no?
22:31 IhrFussel let you*
22:31 IhrFussel In Simple Menu you are basically locked to 1 game even though you could've downloaded 5 others in the past
22:32 paramat yes, that's why we switched android to use full memu
22:33 paramat see #2600
22:33 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2600 -- Android: No way to choose singleplayer worlds/subgames
22:38 IhrFussel I see... BTW the button does work with full menu and when you use it you will have a new 'singleplayerworld' world in your list next time you load up the main menu
22:38 IhrFussel So it creates world nobody created
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23:59 rubenwardy Shara, new CDB feature: https://i.rubenwardy.com/Hy0h8.png
23:59 Shara Ohhh.....
23:59 Shara Looks nice

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