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garywhite |
Even when I connect using a 0.4.16 client |
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longerstaff13 |
morning all |
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tenplus1 |
hi folks |
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tenplus1 |
o/ |
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ANAND |
o/ tenplus1 |
| 09:32 |
tenplus1 |
hi ANAND |
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| 10:20 |
rdococ |
tenplus1istwelve |
| 10:21 |
tenplus1 |
hi rdococ |
| 10:22 |
tenplus1 |
am moving all my repo's from github to notabug.org ... I feel is it a lot better than gitlabs |
| 10:22 |
longerstaff13 |
I just walked 4 laps around a field without stopping |
| 10:23 |
VanessaE |
but how slow did you go? ;) |
| 10:23 |
ANAND |
"walked" :P |
| 10:24 |
longerstaff13 |
Took me an hour |
| 10:24 |
ANAND |
cool |
| 10:24 |
rdococ |
you walked how much? o_O |
| 10:24 |
VanessaE |
sounds good, that's more than I could do. |
| 10:24 |
rdococ |
what is walking? |
| 10:24 |
longerstaff13 |
I went 3 more times than the other students in my class XD |
| 10:25 |
VanessaE |
you know, when you go into that bit blue room with the million-watt overhead light? |
| 10:25 |
VanessaE |
big* |
| 10:25 |
longerstaff13 |
Thry all sat down after the 1st lap... Lazy bones :P |
| 10:25 |
ANAND |
rdococ: Put one foot in front of the other. Repeat with other foot. Continue until you are transported to your destination |
| 10:26 |
tenplus1 |
yay, cheap teleportation |
| 10:26 |
ANAND |
:P |
| 10:26 |
rdococ |
ANAND: I tried that, and just bashed my foot on the wall... |
| 10:26 |
ANAND |
-_- |
| 10:27 |
rdococ |
:D |
| 10:27 |
ANAND |
You're utterly unfit to perform the holy act of walking |
| 10:28 |
VanessaE |
he doesn't have that bump-and-turn thing you see in some motorized toys ;) |
| 10:28 |
ANAND |
lol :P |
| 10:34 |
rdococ |
eh, I'll stick to teleportation ;) |
| 10:38 |
ANAND |
lotsa lazy folks these days... :P |
| 10:43 |
* rdococ |
teleports to ANAND and pokes him |
| 10:44 |
ANAND |
:D :P |
| 10:52 |
longerstaff13 |
Oh feels good to drink water after all that XD |
| 11:05 |
tenplus1 |
https://notabug.org/TenPlus1 |
| 11:13 |
ANAND |
nice :) |
| 11:13 |
Amaz |
Great! |
| 11:13 |
tenplus1 |
notabug hosts many big things like libreboot and halycon suite |
| 11:14 |
tenplus1 |
and it lets you view things without asking to login all the time (*cough* gitlab) |
| 11:14 |
ANAND |
lol |
| 11:15 |
Amaz |
I don't know what exactly it is, but there's something about gitlab's interface (even when logged in) which doesn't seem to be quite right... |
| 11:16 |
tenplus1 |
yeah, it feels wrong somehow... doesnt fill me with happy thoughts :P |
| 11:16 |
lisac |
#notabag |
| 11:16 |
lisac |
*#notabug |
| 11:16 |
lisac |
there is a freenode channel |
| 11:16 |
lisac |
and it has very small number of people there |
| 11:18 |
lisac |
Holy shit, a Serbian team has a pro DOTA2 game |
| 11:18 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 11:18 |
lisac |
and it's their first match |
| 11:25 |
rdococ |
#aglitchinstead |
| 11:25 |
longerstaff13 |
#hehe |
| 11:26 |
rdococ |
#fuckbrexit |
| 11:27 |
longerstaff13 |
I've not been following the news as thos whole brexit shit doesn't interest me :P |
| 11:27 |
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| 11:27 |
Krock |
hi tenplus1 |
| 11:28 |
longerstaff13 |
Meow |
| 11:28 |
tenplus1 |
hi dude :P |
| 11:28 |
Krock |
hi longerstaff13 |
| 11:28 |
longerstaff13 |
Hi Krock |
| 11:28 |
ANAND |
Ello Krock! |
| 11:28 |
Krock |
>> blazing fast >> |
| 11:28 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 11:28 |
tenplus1 |
Krock: https://notabug.org/TenPlus1 |
| 11:28 |
rdococ |
<< blazing yay |
| 11:29 |
rdococ |
notanonbug.org |
| 11:29 |
rdococ |
#minetestshouldmovetonotabug |
| 11:29 |
Krock |
tenplus1, nice. I suggest you to pass the avatar image to waifu2x to enhance it a little |
| 11:29 |
tenplus1 |
? |
| 11:29 |
rdococ |
> Krock |
| 11:30 |
Krock |
tenplus1, a neural network to upscale and reduce noise of images. http://waifu2x.udp.jp/ http://waifu2x.me/ |
| 11:31 |
longerstaff13 |
#yayforportablechargers |
| 11:31 |
Krock |
because the avatar has a quite low resolution - don't know if that's intended, but I doubt it |
| 11:32 |
tenplus1 |
that better, reload page |
| 11:32 |
rdococ |
a yay |
| 11:33 |
Krock |
oh yes. it's sharper now :D |
| 11:33 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 11:34 |
Krock |
I already used that service for several other images, which weren't this kind of artwork, but it worked fine on these too |
| 11:37 |
rdococ |
https://gitlab.com/rdococ/metapriv |
| 11:38 |
tenplus1 |
ooh nice one |
| 11:38 |
rdococ |
Yayâ„¢ |
| 11:39 |
rdococ |
#twitterisoverrated |
| 11:40 |
longerstaff13 |
#soisfacebook |
| 11:40 |
Krock |
##isoverrated |
| 11:41 |
longerstaff13 |
Lol |
| 11:41 |
ThomasMonroe |
#overratingisoverrated |
| 11:42 |
rdococ |
#transistorsareoverratedusevacuumtubesanddekatrons |
| 11:43 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 11:44 |
tenplus1 |
ooh, I like how notabug shows issues in your own repos, assigned to you and created by you on 1 place :) same with pulls... that's handy |
| 11:46 |
rdococ |
tenplus1++ |
| 11:46 |
rdococ |
tenplus2++ |
| 11:47 |
tenplus1 |
that always annoyed me about github cause I had to check induvidual repos for issues and pulls |
| 11:47 |
tenplus1 |
lol rdococ, we have a teneighty on server :P |
| 11:47 |
rdococ |
++yays, and the yayâ„¢++ |
| 11:50 |
rubenwardy |
GH had pages for showing your prs and issues |
| 11:50 |
rubenwardy |
*has |
| 11:51 |
rdococ |
> rubenwardy says yay |
| 11:51 |
tenplus1 |
double checking |
| 11:51 |
tenplus1 |
couldnt find anything that simple, but maybe I missed it |
| 11:51 |
rubenwardy |
github.com/pulls |
| 11:51 |
rubenwardy |
github.com/issues |
| 11:52 |
rubenwardy |
There's links at the top of every page |
| 11:52 |
tenplus1 |
yeah, that mostly showed pulls or issues I added for other repo's |
| 11:52 |
tenplus1 |
never really showed for my own mods |
| 11:52 |
rubenwardy |
There's an "assigned" tab |
| 11:53 |
tenplus1 |
only for repo's I was a member of, again not my own |
| 11:53 |
tenplus1 |
had 1 listed only at the time mobs has 2 issues waiting to view... could only see those when I went into mods rpo itself |
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rdococ |
>><>< yay ><><< |
| 11:57 |
longerstaff13 |
¶: |
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tenplus1 |
hi Jordach |
| 11:58 |
rdococ |
> I do want to say yay |
| 11:58 |
rdococ |
I do want to say yay< |
| 11:59 |
rdococ |
> Yaaaay! < |
| 12:00 |
tenplus1 |
lol, Intel's latest chipset they cheated everyone into thinking it does 5ghz... ahaha |
| 12:01 |
longerstaff13 |
Heb |
| 12:01 |
longerstaff13 |
Heh* |
| 12:01 |
longerstaff13 |
That's good and bad for business XD |
| 12:01 |
tenplus1 |
they had a chiller (sub room temp -10c in the background cooling cpu) |
| 12:01 |
* rdococ |
yaysâ„¢ |
| 12:02 |
longerstaff13 |
Lol |
| 12:02 |
longerstaff13 |
Yayâ„¢ |
| 12:03 |
Krock |
tenplus1, with GaAs chips that would be possible but it's expensive.. |
| 12:04 |
tenplus1 |
indeed... amd threadripper 2 shows intel up though ... waaaay better |
| 12:04 |
Krock |
and most likely also toxic due to the Arsenide |
| 12:13 |
* rdococ |
farts arsenide |
| 12:15 |
tenplus1 |
erk, that's one toxic burrito |
| 12:17 |
rdococ |
Yay computers are pretty big because yay blobs still have to use vacuum tubes and dekatrons, as modern technology explodes when you get close |
| 12:23 |
longerstaff13 |
XD |
| 12:23 |
rdococ |
> * longerstaff13 iPeesâ„¢ all over the yayâ„¢ |
| 12:24 |
rdococ |
ewww |
| 12:24 |
rdococ |
:P |
| 12:24 |
longerstaff13 |
Hehe |
| 12:24 |
* rdococ |
iYaysâ„¢ |
| 12:24 |
rdococ |
the Pear uPhoneâ„¢ |
| 12:24 |
Shara |
rdococ: please don't make me start growling about offtopic. |
| 12:24 |
* rdococ |
hides from Shara |
| 12:25 |
longerstaff13 |
Hi Shara |
| 12:25 |
Shara |
Hi longerstaff13 |
| 12:26 |
longerstaff13 |
rdococ: let's use #minetest-chat for that eh :P |
| 12:26 |
tenplus1 |
o/ Shara |
| 12:27 |
Shara |
What longerstaff13 said, please. :) |
| 12:27 |
longerstaff13 |
:P |
| 12:27 |
Shara |
Hi 11, how's it going? |
| 12:28 |
tenplus1 |
not bad, moved all my git repo's to notabug.org :) |
| 12:28 |
longerstaff13 |
Hehe, I'm not the only one who calls him 11 I see |
| 12:28 |
Shara |
Ugh... it's going to get annoying with everyone using different places for MT repos |
| 12:28 |
tenplus1 |
tbh I prefer notabug to github, it feels better, faster and is easier to check thigns |
| 12:29 |
longerstaff13 |
Why is everyone moving from github anyway? I know Microshit is acquiring it, but github has been the base for the stuff for years right? |
| 12:29 |
tenplus1 |
https://notabug.org/TenPlus1 |
| 12:29 |
Shara |
Everyone is freaking out and reacting quickly instead of planning carefully it seems |
| 12:29 |
longerstaff13 |
Hmm |
| 12:30 |
Shara |
Personally I won't move a thing of my own until I know what MT itself is doing |
| 12:30 |
tenplus1 |
am not freaking out as such, just found a better site I like more |
| 12:30 |
longerstaff13 |
Good plan |
| 12:30 |
Shara |
tenplus1: well, you make it harder for everyone else then |
| 12:30 |
longerstaff13 |
I may disappear in a second as I am at college right now and class is starting soon |
| 12:31 |
* tenplus1 |
cancels class |
| 12:31 |
longerstaff13 |
Yay! |
| 12:32 |
Shara |
Ten, can you cancel my exams tomorrow too please? |
| 12:32 |
tenplus1 |
8done* |
| 12:33 |
tenplus1 |
everyone got 100% |
| 12:33 |
Shara |
:) |
| 12:33 |
* longerstaff13 |
eats the exams - no more exams |
| 12:33 |
longerstaff13 |
:D |
| 12:34 |
longerstaff13 |
Gotta go, bye o/ |
| 12:34 |
tenplus1 |
have fun |
| 12:34 |
longerstaff13 |
I'll try |
| 12:37 |
rdococ |
> yay |
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tenplus1 |
o/ fixer |
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| 12:41 |
tenplus1 |
hi entuland |
| 12:41 |
entuland |
hey there tenplus1 |
| 12:49 |
rdococ |
I want a quantum computer for my birthday |
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| 12:50 |
* tenplus1 |
rustles up a 5 qubit system and isntalls Zork III |
| 12:50 |
tenplus1 |
hi aerozoic |
| 12:50 |
aerozoic |
hey tenplus1, guess what! |
| 12:50 |
rdococ |
Yay blob computers are fun |
| 12:50 |
rdococ |
aerozoic: Yay! |
| 12:50 |
tenplus1 |
??? |
| 12:50 |
rdococ |
blobs |
| 12:50 |
aerozoic |
I'm on Xubuntu now XD |
| 12:50 |
tenplus1 |
ooh sweet :) 18.04 ? |
| 12:50 |
rdococ |
:O |
| 12:51 |
aerozoic |
yep |
| 12:51 |
tenplus1 |
nice one, welcome to the club :d |
| 12:51 |
aerozoic |
lol thx. I wish it was under better circumstances but oh well. It works! |
| 12:52 |
Krock |
oh nice, another club member :) |
| 12:52 |
tenplus1 |
you having any issues with it ? |
| 12:53 |
aerozoic |
Nope. Having issues with this new laptop though. Apparently "cherry trail" chipsets are not linux friendly. |
| 12:53 |
tenplus1 |
what make/model is your lappy ? |
| 12:54 |
aerozoic |
Xubuntu was the only distro i could get wifi to work XD |
| 12:54 |
tenplus1 |
has a newer kernel so better driver support :) |
| 12:55 |
tenplus1 |
how much memory does your laptop have ?# |
| 12:55 |
aerozoic |
Its a Direkt-tek 14-1 |
| 12:57 |
tenplus1 |
ahh walmart speciak :P |
| 12:58 |
tenplus1 |
you can install powertop and increase battery life |
| 12:59 |
aerozoic |
lol yeah, cheapest lappy i could find |
| 12:59 |
tenplus1 |
heh, so long as it works :) it's all good... and looks a decent spec |
| 12:59 |
aerozoic |
The small HD will be a challenge |
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tenplus1 |
hi CWz |
| 13:00 |
tenplus1 |
control panel will let you up the dpi and font size to compensate :d |
| 13:01 |
aerozoic |
HD = hard drive |
| 13:01 |
Krock |
aerozoic, cheapest lappies are those which were mid-range few years ago and now sold because the people upgraded to a newer model |
| 13:01 |
Krock |
s/HD/HDD/ |
| 13:02 |
Krock |
any drive is "hard" (liquid data storage, anyone?), Hard Disk Drive is what you meant, I guess :D |
| 13:02 |
aerozoic |
technically this thing doesn't even have a HDD. |
| 13:02 |
aerozoic |
If i understand correctly, it's just a chip on the MB |
| 13:03 |
tenplus1 |
yeah, same as my Acer Cloudbook... 32gb nand chip |
| 13:03 |
Krock |
so a cheap embedded SSD? |
| 13:03 |
tenplus1 |
works just as well though, fast boot :) |
| 13:03 |
Fixer |
hi |
| 13:05 |
Krock |
yeah but if you buy cheap ones, then they'll have either a low capacity or wear out quickly |
| 13:05 |
Krock |
*or they |
| 13:05 |
tenplus1 |
not if you treat them well :D |
| 13:06 |
tenplus1 |
and running linux is less intensive on the hdd than winblows, so should last longer :D |
| 13:07 |
tenplus1 |
aerozoic: install 'powertop' and in a terminal type: powertop --auto-tune |
| 13:07 |
tenplus1 |
and you'll see your battery life jump a few hours extra :D |
| 13:07 |
aerozoic |
ok thx :) |
| 13:07 |
tenplus1 |
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/powertop <-- this shows how to do automatically |
| 13:09 |
Krock |
but some options aren't that great to disable. I'm using it here too but won't disable the audio chip because each playback will cause a short but loud *BUMP* which is caused by enabling the supply |
| 13:09 |
Krock |
and ofc another, inverse *BUMP* for turning it off |
| 13:10 |
tenplus1 |
also adding the line: vm.swappiness = 15 to the end of /etc/sysctl.conf will stop a lot of unwanted drive access |
| 13:14 |
aerozoic |
i found an article the other day that said for SSD's they recommend swappiness be reduced to 1 |
| 13:15 |
tenplus1 |
depends, how many Gb ram do you have ? |
| 13:15 |
aerozoic |
4gb |
| 13:15 |
tenplus1 |
ahh, then yes, setting to 1 is fine :D |
| 13:15 |
tenplus1 |
I assumed 2gb or less |
| 13:17 |
aerozoic |
why did linux mint xfce have disk monitor taskbar item but xubuntu doesn't? |
| 13:17 |
tenplus1 |
personal preference... you can prolly add it to the taskbar from the plugins menu |
| 13:17 |
aerozoic |
that's what i mean, it's not there |
| 13:17 |
tenplus1 |
hold on, lemmie check somthing |
| 13:19 |
tenplus1 |
in synaptic search for 'xfce4' and it'll bring up all the plugins you can install... xfce4-diskperf-plugin is there |
| 13:20 |
aerozoic |
oh yeah, i also forgot i have yet to install xfce restricted extras |
| 13:21 |
aerozoic |
thanks! |
| 13:21 |
tenplus1 |
:P many packages there for the installin' |
| 13:22 |
aerozoic |
i don't have synaptic XD |
| 13:22 |
tenplus1 |
sudo apt-get install synaptic |
| 13:23 |
tenplus1 |
sometimes you need a tool like that over gnome-software |
| 13:24 |
* rdococ |
yays, |
| 13:48 |
longerstaff13 |
Hi |
| 13:48 |
tenplus1 |
o/ |
| 13:50 |
longerstaff13 |
I have 10 minutes of sitting in the canteen, yay! |
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| 13:56 |
ANAND |
Been building MT for 5 minutes and it's still at 65% ._. |
| 13:56 |
rdococ |
lol |
| 13:56 |
tenplus1 |
erk, what version and for what os ? |
| 13:57 |
ANAND |
0.4.17 on Bionic Beaver |
| 13:57 |
tenplus1 |
https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/stable/+files/minetest_0.4.17-ppa0~ubuntu18.04.1_amd64.deb |
| 13:57 |
tenplus1 |
there ya go |
| 13:58 |
ANAND |
I'm building a minetest server |
| 13:58 |
tenplus1 |
:PP |
| 13:58 |
ANAND |
Just for the heck of it :) |
| 14:01 |
ANAND |
ugh, forgot -DBUILD_CLIENT=0 - re-building..... :/ |
| 14:02 |
aerozoic |
I get to do the same thing in a little bit :) |
| 14:03 |
ANAND |
:P |
| 14:03 |
tenplus1 |
0.4.17 has issues on some servers tho with the crashing, would still use 0.4.16 for stability just now |
| 14:03 |
aerozoic |
longerstaff13, ur 10 minutes are up! :P |
| 14:04 |
aerozoic |
aw, 17 is supposed to be stable LOL |
| 14:04 |
longerstaff13 |
Meep |
| 14:04 |
ANAND |
exactly! XD |
| 14:05 |
tenplus1 |
that's what I thought too... installed on Xanadu and it kept crashing constantly... went back to 0.4.16 |
| 14:05 |
ANAND |
:OWhat |
| 14:05 |
aerozoic |
figures, thx for the warning. |
| 14:05 |
tenplus1 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7419 |
| 14:05 |
ANAND |
* was the error? |
| 14:05 |
rdococ |
fission mailedâ„¢ |
| 14:05 |
rdococ |
dou yiedâ„¢, oame gverâ„¢ |
| 14:05 |
tenplus1 |
also bionic 18.04 has latest minetest 0.4.16 in repo :) |
| 14:07 |
ANAND |
true |
| 14:08 |
aerozoic |
building is more fun :D |
| 14:08 |
tenplus1 |
xanadu already uses this and it works really well :) minetest --server |
| 14:10 |
Krock |
but at least don't do the same with Minetest Game, which will work on 0.4.16 too |
| 14:13 |
rdococ |
hmm... need unique idea for an RPG |
| 14:14 |
Krock |
turn players into fishes and their task is to eat a shark. |
| 14:14 |
tenplus1 |
turn players into sharks and have them eat fishy players |
| 14:14 |
Krock |
unique: probably. interesting: mah, difficulty: high |
| 14:15 |
tenplus1 |
rdococ: check youtube and watch some of the older "yogscast" mc videos, they have many good ideas |
| 14:16 |
rdococ |
EwwEâ„¢ |
| 14:18 |
tenplus1 |
so long as you have a working quest mod then it's possible to have all sorts of amazing adventures in mt |
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tenplus1 |
o/ Jordach |
| 14:20 |
Jordach |
hello |
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* rdococ |
playfully attacks tenplus1 for -3 damage, healing him! |
| 14:57 |
* tenplus1 |
dons his crystal armor and is invincible |
| 14:57 |
* rdococ |
watches as tenplus1 doesn't heal |
| 14:58 |
tenplus1 |
heh... just upgraded to GIMP 2.10.2... it's a lot nicer :) especially dark themes |
| 14:59 |
* rdococ |
plucks the feathers of a phoenix and cooks them in a pot filled with "logical negation potion", causing it to have the opposite effect and kill instead of heal |
| 14:59 |
ANAND |
Just use a NOT gate, way simpler :) |
| 14:59 |
rdococ |
yay, it's nwod xineohp |
| 14:59 |
tenplus1 |
:PP |
| 14:59 |
rdococ |
a reversed phoenix down |
| 15:00 |
tenplus1 |
aerozoic: pop into terminal and type: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:otto-kesselgulasch/gimp to update gimp |
| 15:01 |
tenplus1 |
if you have it installed |
| 15:01 |
ANAND |
sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade after that, right? |
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| 15:02 |
tenplus1 |
adding ppa updates automatically, it should popup an update in the corner tray :) to let ya know |
| 15:02 |
tumeninodes |
pretty good idea that I am watching https://github.com/thomasrudin-mt/missions |
| 15:03 |
tenplus1 |
:p |
| 15:03 |
ANAND |
Interesting mod |
| 15:05 |
tumeninodes |
rubenwardy: when updating my portable for 0.5.0-dev, can't I use make j-4 rather than make j-3 ? as I have 4 cores? noob compiler question :D |
| 15:05 |
rubenwardy |
Use cores+1 |
| 15:05 |
rubenwardy |
So -j5 |
| 15:05 |
rubenwardy |
Or minus 1 |
| 15:05 |
rubenwardy |
I forget |
| 15:07 |
sfan5 |
you can even use make -j20 if you desire |
| 15:07 |
tumeninodes |
heh I was just gonna say that as a joke |
| 15:07 |
sfan5 |
the most common suggestions for the number of jobs are (number of cores + 1) or (number of cores * 2) |
| 15:07 |
ANAND |
If your CPU is hyper-threaded, -j(cores*2) would be a good option too |
| 15:07 |
sfan5 |
if you increase it beyond that, it will just take more RAM |
| 15:08 |
tumeninodes |
amd a8 |
| 15:08 |
tenplus1 |
amd threadripper 2 |
| 15:08 |
tumeninodes |
... showoff |
| 15:08 |
tenplus1 |
muhahahahahaha |
| 15:08 |
ANAND |
Isn't A8 a 6-core CPU? |
| 15:08 |
ANAND |
Thread-ripper! :O |
| 15:09 |
tenplus1 |
tr2 has 32 cores :DD |
| 15:09 |
ANAND |
._. |
| 15:09 |
tumeninodes |
A8 is quad core |
| 15:09 |
tenplus1 |
heh, if only... I have an atom 2 core 1.8 ht |
| 15:09 |
ANAND |
XD |
| 15:10 |
tumeninodes |
than you rubenwardy and sfan5 |
| 15:11 |
tumeninodes |
I have my AMD Athlon64 3300+ powerhouse I could fire up but, I don;t want to drain the grid |
| 15:11 |
ANAND |
lol :P |
| 15:12 |
tumeninodes |
512Gb ram.... |
| 15:12 |
tumeninodes |
oh wait.... 512Mb dang |
| 15:12 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe |
| 15:12 |
tenplus1 |
is compiling with -j? the same as using num_emerge_threads = ? |
| 15:13 |
benrob0329 |
'scuse me, just a lone Intel user walking through :P |
| 15:13 |
ANAND |
Ur not alone :) |
| 15:13 |
tenplus1 |
hi benrob :P |
| 15:13 |
* tumeninodes |
gives judgmental stare |
| 15:13 |
* tenplus1 |
has intel atom |
| 15:13 |
* ANAND |
has Intel Pentium |
| 15:14 |
tumeninodes |
just know, that you're all wrong |
| 15:14 |
shivajiva |
lol |
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| 15:14 |
tenplus1 |
hi roben |
| 15:14 |
ANAND |
tumeninodes: What do you mean? :) |
| 15:14 |
roben1430 |
🤔 |
| 15:15 |
shivajiva |
AMD fanboy in da house! |
| 15:15 |
tumeninodes |
... you know what I mean |
| 15:15 |
ANAND |
I don't :/ |
| 15:16 |
tumeninodes |
I know, that's why i say that. It stuns and confuses the opposition |
| 15:16 |
tenplus1 |
hi shiva |
| 15:16 |
shivajiva |
hiya tenplus ;) |
| 15:16 |
ANAND |
Ah... Makes a ton of sense ;) |
| 15:17 |
tumeninodes |
not really but that's how I do |
| 15:17 |
ANAND |
lol |
| 15:18 |
roben1430 |
Clearly ARM is superior |
| 15:18 |
ANAND |
Nope sorry |
| 15:18 |
tumeninodes |
I didn't check the repo yet, did anyone fix that builtin issue yet? or do I have do the manual labours today : / |
| 15:18 |
ANAND |
8086 rules! 8D |
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| 15:18 |
roben1430 |
Actually ARM is most likely the next major architecture |
| 15:19 |
tumeninodes |
Sparc! |
| 15:19 |
shivajiva |
I think we need competition and a diverse marketplace to suit all budgets, after 486 I jumped to AMD based on means but for stability back then you couldn't beat intel so eventually I came back |
| 15:19 |
roben1430 |
Apple will likely move to it with their next Macbook line |
| 15:20 |
roben1430 |
Or, some near-future linr |
| 15:20 |
tumeninodes |
you all know Sparc is pretty powerful right? They just can;t compete in the $ market being unable to lower their cost |
| 15:20 |
roben1430 |
Not that moving to ARM is an issue for Linux/BSD |
| 15:22 |
tenplus1 |
latest arm chip runs 3ghz and is being made for windows desktop |
| 15:22 |
sfan5 |
it's an issue for linux/bsd? |
| 15:22 |
sfan5 |
it might be an issue for windows, but certainly not for linux |
| 15:22 |
roben1430 |
sfan5: I said not an issue |
| 15:22 |
tumeninodes |
old but still :P https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3017558/oracles-sparc-m8-is-twice-as-fast-as-intel-x86-sparc-m7-cpus |
| 15:22 |
tenplus1 |
very true, linux can run on pretty much every platform |
| 15:23 |
sfan5 |
roben1430: oh sorry, the "not" was hard to spot |
| 15:23 |
roben1430 |
Both Linux and almost evert BSD kernel runs on ARM, and has for years |
| 15:23 |
roben1430 |
Its hardly a transition |
| 15:24 |
tumeninodes |
sneaky little nots |
| 15:24 |
roben1430 |
Many applications have even been ported, due to things like the raspberry Pi |
| 15:25 |
roben1430 |
I love how people were amazed when VLC ran on ARM based Windows |
| 15:25 |
rubenwardy |
arm don't make chips |
| 15:26 |
tenplus1 |
vlc is pretty good, I like mpv tho |
| 15:26 |
rubenwardy |
Re: tenplus1 latest arm chip runs 3ghz |
| 15:26 |
roben1430 |
Tbh I have yet to find a video player I'm completely happy with |
| 15:26 |
tenplus1 |
mpv is just a window with on-screen controls, no gui :) simplez |
| 15:27 |
roben1430 |
But no DVD menus either |
| 15:27 |
tenplus1 |
on-screen or keyboard controlled |
| 15:28 |
tenplus1 |
rubenwardy: the arm cortex a76 runs up to 3ghz using 7nm process and is 35% faster than 175 |
| 15:28 |
tenplus1 |
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/31/arm_cortex_a76/ |
| 15:28 |
tenplus1 |
my next desktop just might be arm :D |
| 15:29 |
roben1430 |
How does ARM do for GPUs though |
| 15:29 |
roben1430 |
Will it be compatible with existing PCIe things or will we move completely to SoaC |
| 15:29 |
rubenwardy |
arm design instruction sets |
| 15:30 |
tenplus1 |
depends on board and company making it... mali-760 in most phones and it's fast enough to do 4k |
| 15:30 |
rubenwardy |
Ie: architecture |
| 15:30 |
sfan5 |
GPUs are not architecture-specific, vendors "just" need to port their drivers |
| 15:30 |
tenplus1 |
mali-t880 is latest and as 16 core gfx |
| 15:30 |
rubenwardy |
Hence why it's up to 3ghz, and they don't give a specific value |
| 15:30 |
roben1430 |
sfan5: isnt PCIe a CPU thing, not a motherboard thing? |
| 15:30 |
tenplus1 |
https://developer.arm.com/products/graphics-and-multimedia/mali-gpus/mali-t860-and-mali-t880-gpus |
| 15:31 |
Krock |
PCIe is still for data exchange. how the data is processed is up to the cards |
| 15:31 |
sfan5 |
I don't know whether you can call PCI-e a "cpu thing" or a "motherboard thing" |
| 15:31 |
roben1430 |
tenplus1: fast enough to do 4k just means it has multimedia capabilities, not necessarily gaming or rendering |
| 15:31 |
sfan5 |
but I can tell you that there are arm boards with pcie support, so it's certainly doable |
| 15:32 |
tenplus1 |
true, consider tho that many phones have hd display and 3d gaming works well on 760... so 880 will be a lot smoother :D would need to test it tho |
| 15:32 |
roben1430 |
http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.dui0556g/CACDJHIJ.html |
| 15:33 |
roben1430 |
Looks like the architecture supports it anyways |
| 15:33 |
sfan5 |
about graphics: the graphics hardware mobile SoCs usually come with are no match for desktop graphics |
| 15:33 |
sfan5 |
the drivers are terrible too |
| 15:33 |
roben1430 |
sfan5: exactly |
| 15:33 |
sfan5 |
a notable exception is nvidia hardware, their drivers are on-par with what they provide on desktop |
| 15:34 |
roben1430 |
So..working but a pita? |
| 15:34 |
sfan5 |
that's still much better than the average driver for other ARM gfx hw |
| 15:35 |
roben1430 |
~~AMD save us~~ |
| 15:36 |
sfan5 |
since their drivers are in the kernel now, maybe it would just work OOTB |
| 15:36 |
tenplus1 |
hopefully |
| 15:36 |
roben1430 |
Isnt it still unstable? |
| 15:37 |
tumeninodes |
hey, wait a second... when I update 0.5.0-dev, that doesn;t automagically update MTG? :/ |
| 15:37 |
sfan5 |
amdgpu? not that i know of |
| 15:37 |
tenplus1 |
if you compile yourself, no... gotta get the latest minetest_game as well |
| 15:37 |
tumeninodes |
dagnabbit |
| 15:38 |
roben1430 |
sfan5: the AMD drivers in the kernel, I thought they weren't in a release yet |
| 15:38 |
tumeninodes |
i was wondering why player is not sunk into the snow |
| 15:40 |
sfan5 |
roben1430: it's in the kernel since about 2 years afaik |
| 15:41 |
tenplus1 |
amd open source drivers seem to run better than binary blob |
| 15:41 |
tenplus1 |
according to phoronix |
| 15:41 |
tenplus1 |
wish the same could be said for nvidia |
| 15:41 |
sfan5 |
better than fglrx? that's not surprise |
| 15:41 |
sfan5 |
s/not/no/ |
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| 15:43 |
roben1430 |
If only I could have had a look into the future and bought an amd card |
| 15:44 |
roben1430 |
Then again I would have built a quieter and smaller computer at that point as well... |
| 15:45 |
tenplus1 |
+100 on small and quiet |
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| 16:03 |
tenplus1 |
wb |
| 16:17 |
longerstaff13 |
o/ |
| 16:17 |
tenplus1 |
o// |
| 16:18 |
longerstaff13 |
o/// |
| 16:18 |
longerstaff13 |
lol |
| 16:18 |
tumeninodes |
ok, now I have current MTG :) silly me |
| 16:18 |
rdococ |
hm... thinking of alternatives to electricity for alien species |
| 16:19 |
rubenwardy |
Man, I want this computer |
| 16:19 |
tenplus1 |
? |
| 16:19 |
longerstaff13 |
? |
| 16:19 |
rdococ |
there are mechanical turing machinesâ„¢ |
| 16:19 |
* tumeninodes |
wonders what an alien's electric bill looks like |
| 16:19 |
longerstaff13 |
tumeninodes: most probably £1,000 :P |
| 16:20 |
rdococ |
depends on if they have electricity |
| 16:21 |
rdococ |
they could have entirely mechanical minicomputers |
| 16:21 |
tenplus1 |
or organic |
| 16:21 |
rdococ |
ooh, aliens could selectively breed a species of organic computer |
| 16:22 |
tenplus1 |
1 kid to become a doctor, the other to run household apps :D |
| 16:22 |
rdococ |
wat |
| 16:22 |
rdococ |
alien slavery |
| 16:22 |
tenplus1 |
to them it's normal :P |
| 16:23 |
rdococ |
aliens would selectively breed "lesser" aliens for obedience and intelligence |
| 16:24 |
rdococ |
that sounds really messed up to us but normal for them |
| 16:24 |
tenplus1 |
yeah, population control built into their civilization |
| 16:25 |
tumeninodes |
rubenwardy, this is what my eye is on for next machine https://www.cybertronpc.com/clx/kits |
| 16:25 |
rdococ |
then the alien slaves become intelligent enough to escape and fight back, but don't as they became too obedient |
| 16:26 |
tumeninodes |
would probably still get avg 50/52 fps with MTG :D |
| 16:26 |
tenplus1 |
tumeninodes: looks good, amd ryzen :P nice |
| 16:26 |
tumeninodes |
oh yehhhhhhh |
| 16:26 |
rdococ |
then there's an anti-slave rebellious group of aliens that breed slaves for disobedience so they may eventually rebel |
| 16:27 |
tumeninodes |
this depends on how bad the judge feels for me due to my accident though ; ) |
| 16:27 |
tumeninodes |
been practicing my <sad face> |
| 16:27 |
rdococ |
life happensâ„¢ |
| 16:27 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 16:27 |
rdococ |
capitalism happensâ„¢ |
| 16:27 |
rdococ |
other things happen tooâ„¢ |
| 16:28 |
tumeninodes |
of course I don;t call accidents "accidents"..., I call the "stupids" |
| 16:28 |
tumeninodes |
*m |
| 16:28 |
rdococ |
you did a stupid? |
| 16:28 |
tumeninodes |
noooo, someone else did |
| 16:29 |
tumeninodes |
I just happened to be in the path of stupid |
| 16:29 |
tumeninodes |
though I do have stupids... A LOT |
| 16:29 |
* tenplus1 |
does a stupid and gets a new amd system too :D |
| 16:29 |
tumeninodes |
hahaha |
| 16:30 |
tumeninodes |
when it's a small stupid, I am very forgiving... but a huge stupid that cause serious injury..., no |
| 16:31 |
tumeninodes |
og course I could be over-prospecting too |
| 16:31 |
rdococ |
"oops, I accidentally broke your leg or something" |
| 16:31 |
tumeninodes |
awesome, you may now buy me a new PC |
| 16:31 |
rdococ |
can I have your old one? |
| 16:32 |
tumeninodes |
no, too much porn on it :D |
| 16:32 |
rdococ |
can I have your porn? |
| 16:32 |
tumeninodes |
hahahaha |
| 16:32 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe |
| 16:32 |
rdococ |
lol, the moment para - mat sees this... |
| 16:32 |
tenplus1 |
we're all getting kicked |
| 16:32 |
tenplus1 |
o.O |
| 16:33 |
tenplus1 |
am para-noid now |
| 16:33 |
rdococ |
lol |
| 16:33 |
tumeninodes |
it's all anime though, kinda sick |
| 16:33 |
tenplus1 |
hentai even |
| 16:33 |
tumeninodes |
I won;t get kicked..., my pc also has MT/MTG on it so...., <safety net> |
| 16:34 |
tumeninodes |
thinking of starting a new dating website/app, via using MTG |
| 16:34 |
rdococ |
wat |
| 16:35 |
tenplus1 |
er... bad idea |
| 16:35 |
tenplus1 |
might get paired with an oerkki |
| 16:35 |
tumeninodes |
nah it'll be UGE! |
| 16:35 |
rdococ |
ooh, a reddit-like "social media" website in minetest would be cool |
| 16:36 |
rdococ |
ANAND: we're talking about mt now though |
| 16:36 |
tumeninodes |
dude, I'm always "off" |
| 16:36 |
ANAND |
Totally... |
| 16:36 |
rdococ |
well, I definitely haven't been turned on... |
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| 16:36 |
* tumeninodes |
is not plugged in |
| 16:37 |
tenplus1 |
learning from 0.4.17 and lack of binaries, how easy would it be to have minetest-next for 0.5x dev for testers to quickly and easily use ???? |
| 16:37 |
rdococ |
minetest-previous: 0.3.3 |
| 16:37 |
tenplus1 |
kinda like opera-next so you can run it alongside the stable version and test it all out |
| 16:37 |
garywhite |
I have someone who is asking me how they update MT from 0.4.15 to 0.4.17 on Ubuntu? |
| 16:37 |
tenplus1 |
then when it's finally released it becomes "minetest" stable |
| 16:38 |
rdococ |
I run the latest -dev alongsite the 0.4.17 build |
| 16:38 |
Krock |
garywhite, PPAs do it |
| 16:38 |
tumeninodes |
tenplus1, why not just set up as I do, it's sleazy.... woops I mean easy |
| 16:38 |
tenplus1 |
gary, 16.04 repos and above have minetest 0.4.16 already in there |
| 16:38 |
tenplus1 |
dont do 0.4.17 until that crash bug is sorted |
| 16:38 |
garywhite |
Right |
| 16:38 |
rdococ |
the same bug from 0.5.0-dev? |
| 16:39 |
tumeninodes |
so keep 0.4.16 as .minetest, then use 0.5.0-dev in minetest |
| 16:39 |
Krock |
tenplus1, easy. I currently got 0.5.0-dev and 0.4.17 running both as RUN_IN_PLACE, whereas the mod, game and client directories are symlnked |
| 16:39 |
tenplus1 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7419 |
| 16:39 |
ANAND |
Krock: I have the exact same setup :D |
| 16:39 |
tenplus1 |
Krock: wihtout having to compile each and every new version that comes out... |
| 16:40 |
garywhite |
What about for Ubuntu 12.x? |
| 16:40 |
* tumeninodes |
directories are not symlinked :( |
| 16:40 |
Krock |
tenplus1, then compile each week |
| 16:40 |
ANAND |
I've symlinked mods, games and worlds directories |
| 16:40 |
tumeninodes |
tenplus1 hates compiling as do I |
| 16:40 |
tenplus1 |
goes back as far as 14.04, ubu 12 is too old |
| 16:41 |
garywhite |
That's what I thought |
| 16:41 |
Krock |
ANAND, cache, locale, sounds and textures can be symlinked too |
| 16:41 |
ANAND |
and settings are read from and written to ~/minetest.conf |
| 16:41 |
tenplus1 |
not that I hate compiling, but if things are to be tested by many users then provide a minetest-dev or minetest-next binary for us to play with |
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| 16:41 |
tenplus1 |
it took me forever to compile mt on my net-top... that puts me right off |
| 16:41 |
ANAND |
Krock: cache and locale too? |
| 16:41 |
tumeninodes |
I used the 0.4.16 (now 17) from mint repo, then use Calinou's portable build for MT 0.5.0-dev, and just cloned my fork of MTG-dev into that |
| 16:42 |
ANAND |
No conflicts between 0.4.17 and 0.5.0-dev? |
| 16:42 |
tumeninodes |
so now to update MT is just pull and make -j5 |
| 16:42 |
Krock |
ANAND, especially cache because the media cache format doesn't change. and translations tend to be added rather than removed |
| 16:42 |
ANAND |
Right, thanks |
| 16:42 |
Krock |
so 0.5.0-dev translations + cache |
| 16:42 |
tumeninodes |
update MTG git pull upstream master and then push origin master |
| 16:43 |
Krock |
tenplus1, Celeron D 3.06 GHz, 45 minutes compiling time |
| 16:43 |
tenplus1 |
daaaaaamn |
| 16:43 |
Krock |
well, that was from scratch. incremental build then brought it down to ~30 mins |
| 16:44 |
tenplus1 |
just one of those things that would be nice for testers... save a lot of rigmarole and hassle |
| 16:44 |
ANAND |
A great benefit of symlinking is that packages installed using ContentDB can be used across all versions of MT :D |
| 16:44 |
tenplus1 |
then i can run minetest to play or minetest-dev/next to test |
| 16:44 |
tumeninodes |
... you would be able to play both |
| 16:45 |
ANAND |
Hmm... why not provide 0.5.0-dev as a special package on ContentDB? |
| 16:47 |
tumeninodes |
you'd still have to have 0.5.0 MT in a diff directory |
| 16:48 |
ANAND |
oh nvm... ContentDB itself is for 0.5.0 only... :| |
| 16:48 |
tumeninodes |
; ) |
| 16:49 |
rdococ |
; yay ; |
| 16:49 |
rdococ |
I need a name for the aliens I came up with earlier |
| 16:50 |
ANAND |
yay-liens |
| 16:50 |
tumeninodes |
or... you can just do as I was doing for a while and deleting forks, and local, then refork, and reinstall... constantly |
| 16:50 |
tumeninodes |
sofar LOVES that :D |
| 16:51 |
tumeninodes |
<yayliens> :| |
| 16:51 |
garywhite |
is anyone else who uses IRCCloud having issues? |
| 16:51 |
rdococ |
ANAND: are you sure? the aliens are pretty racist (among their alien equivalent of races, at least)... |
| 16:52 |
sofar |
lol |
| 16:52 |
ANAND |
That was just a PR, it's up to you to merge 8) |
| 16:52 |
longerstaff13 |
garywhite: I moved back to a ZNC and HexChat |
| 16:52 |
sofar |
quassel, forever |
| 16:52 |
rdococ |
I should make a language for the 'racist aliens' but meh... |
| 16:52 |
longerstaff13 |
Client: HexChat 2.14.1 • OS: Ubuntu "bionic" 18.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz (1.04GHz) • Memory: Physical: 3.6 GiB Total (2.0 GiB Free) Swap: 2.0 GiB Total (2.0 GiB Free) • Storage: 35.7 GB / 486.7 GB (451.0 GB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Radeon HD 5670 @ Intel Corporation Core Processor QuickPath Architecture System Address De |
| 16:52 |
longerstaff13 |
coder • Uptime: 2h 22m 1s |
| 16:52 |
longerstaff13 |
;) |
| 16:52 |
sofar |
marklar |
| 16:52 |
rdococ |
I have no specifics as to the biology of the alien species yet |
| 16:53 |
tenplus1 |
they reproduce a-sexually so they are really being racist against themselves as a joke |
| 16:54 |
rdococ |
I want to call them "adolphians"... |
| 16:54 |
tumeninodes |
have them reproduce by "magic" and call them bibliens |
| 16:54 |
rdococ |
lol, bibliens |
| 16:55 |
rdococ |
I would make people mad if I called them bibliens, calling them adolphians is bad enough :P |
| 16:56 |
longerstaff13 |
yæ-lians |
| 16:56 |
tumeninodes |
could call them humans but, I'm sure you want an intelligent species |
| 16:56 |
rdococ |
lol |
| 16:57 |
rdococ |
humans went to war with the adolphians for obvious reasons |
| 16:58 |
tumeninodes |
well, have to go meet with someone who seems to believe in magic, as a matter of fact..., to try to convince them there is no such thing |
| 16:58 |
rdococ |
tumeninodes: whozat? |
| 16:58 |
tumeninodes |
client |
| 16:58 |
rdococ |
so you're a server? :P |
| 16:59 |
tumeninodes |
no, I'n obviously insane for having this particular client |
| 16:59 |
tumeninodes |
*m |
| 16:59 |
tumeninodes |
I feel for her other half hahaha |
| 16:59 |
tumeninodes |
see ya folks |
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| 17:14 |
Calinou |
https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/8pasj6/debian_package_of_the_day_s03e04_39_minetest_3d/ |
| 17:14 |
Calinou |
hi :) |
| 17:14 |
tenplus1 |
hi cal |
| 17:14 |
Calinou |
my portable build is really old tum |
| 17:14 |
Calinou |
tumeninodes* |
| 17:14 |
Calinou |
(they left) |
| 17:15 |
rdococ |
idea: space dimension with spheres of black holium that act as black holes |
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* Jordach |
adds in accretion disks |
| 17:16 |
Jordach |
...along with the instakill gamma radiation |
| 17:18 |
Krock |
For me is the speaker in that video a bit hard to understand sometimes |
| 17:19 |
* rdococ |
uses an accretion disk to store data |
| 17:19 |
* rdococ |
watches as the data is swallowed up by the black hole |
| 17:19 |
* rdococ |
yays |
| 17:29 |
BillyS |
Ah, think I finally found out why some of my clients where crashing. They were using Multicr p |
| 17:29 |
tenplus1 |
??? |
| 17:30 |
BillyS |
Some of the players on my server were crashing at wierd times |
| 17:30 |
BillyS |
Like when they opened the inventory or a locked chest |
| 17:30 |
tenplus1 |
hrm, but shouldnt all the mods be loaded from server-side ? |
| 17:31 |
rdococ |
my switch did a bsod (black screen of death) |
| 17:31 |
tenplus1 |
nooo, not nintendo |
| 17:31 |
BillyS |
rdococ: With windows, you avoid bsod's by changing them violet! :D |
| 17:33 |
garywhite |
Instead it's BSOD 2.0: The PSOD (Purple Screen of Death) |
| 17:33 |
tenplus1 |
BillyS: does your server run a custom minetest game, or default ? |
| 17:33 |
BillyS |
default |
| 17:34 |
tenplus1 |
yet when someone opens a chest in multicraft it crashes ? |
| 17:34 |
BillyS |
Yep |
| 17:35 |
tenplus1 |
so weird |
| 17:35 |
BillyS |
Yep again |
| 17:35 |
rdococ |
Real life crashed yesterday. |
| 17:35 |
BillyS |
Also, I have fish spawning all over my world . . |
| 17:35 |
BillyS |
Speaking of wierd. :P |
| 17:37 |
rdococ |
I sent a bug report, but the devs can't seem to fix it... |
| 17:37 |
tenplus1 |
wonder if it's anything to do with the minetest.after(0,2 that shows chest formspec... doesnt necessarily check for player being active or now |
| 17:37 |
tenplus1 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/nodes.lua#L2279 |
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| 17:54 |
tenplus1 |
Krock: you there ? |
| 17:57 |
rdococ |
Hmm... should I put 'adolphians' in an extraterrestrial setting or a fantasy setting with dwarves, elves, etc.? |
| 17:57 |
tenplus1 |
asteroids |
| 17:59 |
rdococ |
if I made them extraterrestrial I'd have to define its other biological characteristics, which is boring |
| 17:59 |
tenplus1 |
make them blue blobs |
| 18:00 |
tenplus1 |
that bound around like slimes :D |
| 18:00 |
tenplus1 |
and if you get too close they explode into goo and cause slowdown for 30 seconds |
| 18:01 |
tenplus1 |
rubenwardy: you around ? |
| 18:02 |
* tenplus1 |
tries to lure someone with a donut for assistance |
| 18:03 |
* rdococ |
eats the donut by throwing his intestines at it |
| 18:03 |
tenplus1 |
lol, hoi |
| 18:03 |
tenplus1 |
you aint no starfish |
| 18:03 |
* rdococ |
then reels his intestines in |
| 18:03 |
* rdococ |
is a gross blob, but they're pretty cute |
| 18:03 |
tenplus1 |
hehehe |
| 18:04 |
* tenplus1 |
plops anime eyes on rdococ |
| 18:04 |
* rdococ |
turns into an animyay blob |
| 18:05 |
tenplus1 |
https://img00.deviantart.net/58d9/i/2012/207/8/8/kawaii_slime_by_drakesilver777-d58qts1.png |
| 18:06 |
tenplus1 |
rubenwardy or Krock: is the 0.4.17 crash error caused when the server has logs enabled, according to this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6798 |
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garywhite |
hi Tmanyo |
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| 18:31 |
tumeninodes |
gotta love people who are no-shows for meetings grrrr |
| 18:31 |
tenplus1 |
no reason ? |
| 18:31 |
tumeninodes |
"oh, I'm sorry, I forgot all about it, can you just arrange your life around me?" |
| 18:32 |
tenplus1 |
I dont like ppl being that selfish |
| 18:32 |
tumeninodes |
me either... still a min charge though |
| 18:32 |
tumeninodes |
which I'm sure will seem unreasonable to them |
| 18:32 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
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| 18:33 |
tumeninodes |
anyway, are you still floating around Calinou |
| 18:33 |
Calinou |
yes |
| 18:33 |
Calinou |
I said my 0.5-dev build is very out of date |
| 18:34 |
tumeninodes |
your portable build still works |
| 18:34 |
tumeninodes |
I just update it (at least I hope that's what I've been doing) :P |
| 18:38 |
Calinou |
I mean, the one-line script will get the latest version |
| 18:38 |
Calinou |
but my AppImage is like 1 year old by now |
| 18:40 |
tumeninodes |
oh, yeh I know that. I d/l the appimage a bit back but it was not what I needed |
| 18:40 |
Krock |
tenplus1, yes. I just saw you can work around by setting "deprecated_lua_api_handling" to anything but "log" or "error" to avoid the crash |
| 18:41 |
tumeninodes |
the one-line script is what I used for the portable, then I just cloned my fork of current MTG into it today, because i had mtg set up wrong |
| 18:43 |
tenplus1 |
in the minetest.conf ? deprecated_lua_api_handling = none ??? |
| 18:43 |
tumeninodes |
either way, it makes sense to me and it works, that's all I need to be happy :) |
| 18:43 |
Fixer |
s/???/?!?!?! |
| 18:45 |
tenplus1 |
although it's set to "legacy" by default, which it is on xanadu ? so I wonder why the crash if it already wasnt set to "log" or "error" |
| 18:45 |
tumeninodes |
I very much love player sinking into snow... so much better |
| 18:47 |
rdococ |
~I do want to sa - ay yay |
| 18:47 |
rdococ |
I do want to SA AAAA AY yay~ |
| 18:49 |
tumeninodes |
ssstaahhhhhhp |
| 18:50 |
nerzhul |
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/De9vP8yUEAAIx9a.jpg:large wow :D |
| 18:51 |
tenplus1 |
lolol |
| 18:51 |
tenplus1 |
hi nerzhul |
| 18:51 |
Krock |
tenplus1, that's quite weird because "legacy" would not cause this error |
| 18:51 |
nerzhul |
hi tenplus1 |
| 18:52 |
tumeninodes |
and that's just daily |
| 18:52 |
tenplus1 |
it's a setting we never changed so it has been on default all this time... |
| 18:52 |
tenplus1 |
will ask shinji if he can reinstall 0.4.17 and we'll test |
| 18:53 |
Krock |
well, it defaults to "log" when the "NDEBUG" was set to compile. i.e. "-DNDEBUG" |
| 18:53 |
tenplus1 |
hrmm |
| 18:53 |
Krock |
which is actually the case when it's built with GCC |
| 18:54 |
tumeninodes |
my internets is acting wonky |
| 18:55 |
Krock |
tenplus1, set it manually to "legacy". maybe the docs are wrong |
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| 18:56 |
BillyS |
minetest is screwing around with me |
| 18:56 |
tenplus1 |
whassup billy ? |
| 18:56 |
BillyS |
I can't get voxelmanips to work |
| 18:56 |
tumeninodes |
BillyS, Minetest doesn;t have screws so, impossibru |
| 18:56 |
tenplus1 |
getting any errors |
| 18:56 |
BillyS |
Nope |
| 18:57 |
BillyS |
But area:index(x, y, z) is returing an id for a water source when there isnt a water source at x y z |
| 18:57 |
BillyS |
(area is a VoxelArea) |
| 18:57 |
tenplus1 |
weird |
| 18:57 |
BillyS |
No kidding |
| 18:59 |
tenplus1 |
use pastebin to show your code, maybe someone can debug |
| 18:59 |
BillyS |
http://pasteall.org/987010 |
| 18:59 |
BillyS |
Sires is re-writing it now |
| 19:00 |
BillyS |
Its a function to check if a mob can spawn |
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| 19:01 |
Krock |
local emin, emax = vm:read_from_map(vector.add(pos1, -1), vector.add(pos2, 1)) |
| 19:03 |
Krock |
that would ensure that you can iterate over the entire pos1 and pos2 volume |
| 19:05 |
BillyS |
Hmm |
| 19:05 |
Krock |
and maybe def.spawn_node was invalid (nil, unknown) |
| 19:06 |
Krock |
line 16 will cause a crash due to unknown nodes |
| 19:07 |
tenplus1 |
is pos1 pos2 used for manually spawning mobs, or is it centred around player ? |
| 19:07 |
BillyS |
centered aroung the player |
| 19:07 |
BillyS |
*around |
| 19:16 |
rdococ |
> I will yay yay |
| 19:16 |
Krock |
tenplus1, actually it shouldn't matter because VManip forceloads the mapblocks |
| 19:17 |
tenplus1 |
just curious to how position is selected for mob to spawn :P |
| 19:19 |
tenplus1 |
always looking for a better way to spawn mobs :D |
| 19:21 |
BillyS |
heh |
| 19:21 |
longerstaff13 |
BillyS used to look for ways to spawn corium allover the place :P (joking) |
| 19:21 |
BillyS |
I did |
| 19:22 |
longerstaff13 |
heh |
| 19:26 |
rdococ |
> yay < |
| 19:30 |
tenplus1 |
nite folks o// |
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| 19:37 |
tumeninodes |
Is it possible to add in the ability for MT or MTG to read a .lua or something similar to a meta.txt file from a texture folder? |
| 19:38 |
tumeninodes |
so that a texture in a tp can overide a node or item on an individual basis? I have mentioned this idea before |
| 19:40 |
tumeninodes |
i.e., if I create a tp, and I want to use the default_water_source.png from it but, I also want to change say, the alpha level and length from 2,0 to 3.0, it would be very cool to be able to change those defs from within the tp itself |
| 19:41 |
tumeninodes |
and using the very old adage of "MC can do it"..., why can't MT? |
| 19:42 |
rdococ |
there are things MT can do that MC can't without hax :P |
| 19:42 |
rdococ |
like custom nodes that don't need fiddling around with resource pax |
| 19:42 |
tumeninodes |
I have mentioned it is possible to do this, by creating a tp as a mod, and using override but, it would be much nicer to do from within the textures folder itself |
| 19:44 |
tumeninodes |
true but that normally relates to engine restrictions but, I don;t thin this would be a restriction, just a matter of being coded into the engine, meaning the feature just isnt there yet, but not impossible |
| 19:45 |
tumeninodes |
and creating a tp as a mod is kinda sleazy |
| 19:47 |
tumeninodes |
wait, sorry I misread your comment rdococ :P |
| 19:47 |
tumeninodes |
I switched MT cant with MC cant |
| 19:48 |
Fixer |
wat? |
| 19:48 |
tumeninodes |
nvm, I confused myself too |
| 19:49 |
tumeninodes |
I thought rdococ said "there are things MT "can't" do, that MC "can" do" |
| 19:50 |
rdococ |
MT can do nearly anything because it's open-source and written in C++, so you can modify it to do whatever. case closed. yay. |
| 19:51 |
tumeninodes |
I'd just like to see TPs able to utilize meta.txt files, same as MC does. But I don;t know where to start or how to add the feature |
| 19:52 |
tumeninodes |
definitely starts in the engine. I could make an issue but unsure how to word it |
| 19:55 |
tumeninodes |
there was mention before as well, that being able to use the term "media pack" would be nice, to be able to have a media pack include 3 folders "textures", "models", and "sounds" which would be a nice addition too |
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rubenwardy |
ERROR[Main]: ServerError: AsyncErr: ServerThread::run Lua: Runtime error from mod 'sauth' in callback can_bypass_userlimit(): ...inetest/minetest_stable/bin/../builtin/game/register.lua:401: assertion failed! |
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rubenwardy |
hmmm |
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| 20:45 |
Krock |
oh! found a possible cause for the jump issue |
| 20:50 |
rubenwardy |
0.4.17 https://i.rubenwardy.com/Gqm80.png |
| 20:50 |
Krock |
was time to recharge it |
| 20:52 |
rubenwardy |
there was a bug with my email on crash script |
| 20:52 |
rubenwardy |
was passing in $date rather than $DATE resulting in the last 20 lines of logs not being sent :( |
| 21:06 |
garywhite |
I hate to say it (and I mean no offense to you guys) but 0.4.17 is like the Windows Vista of MT releases, but the first bad one I've seen since I started out on 0.4.13 |
| 21:07 |
rubenwardy |
no one tested it well enough |
| 21:07 |
rubenwardy |
also, CTF doesn't use any deprecated functions |
| 21:07 |
rubenwardy |
so it couldn't catch it |
| 21:11 |
sofar |
so the mt media server actually costs me money this month |
| 21:11 |
Krock |
how come it doesn't cost otherwise? |
| 21:11 |
sofar |
I've exceeded the free bandwidth outbound |
| 21:12 |
Krock |
well, that's a success |
| 21:12 |
sofar |
cpu usage and all the other metrics fall well within the free tier limits |
| 21:12 |
sofar |
yes, it's definitely a success by that metric :) |
| 21:12 |
sofar |
it's now serving about 2-3gb a day |
| 21:13 |
sofar |
I'm starting to have issues maintaining log files :) |
| 21:14 |
sofar |
I've got 6000(!) hits on some media files |
| 21:14 |
rubenwardy |
in a month? |
| 21:14 |
sofar |
in the past 4 days |
| 21:15 |
Krock |
it's hard to believe that so many clients are out there which never cached the media before |
| 21:15 |
sofar |
well there's something wrong there |
| 21:15 |
sofar |
let me paste some greps: |
| 21:15 |
Krock |
...pastebin? |
| 21:16 |
sofar |
I'd never directly paste :P |
| 21:16 |
Krock |
who knows? let's select these two lines.. paste. oops. |
| 21:16 |
sofar |
https://pastebin.com/raw/rXVzP6RE |
| 21:16 |
rubenwardy |
like the time I pasted a data:image/png link in -chat |
| 21:16 |
rubenwardy |
pages and pages |
| 21:17 |
sofar |
looks like we may have an issue with our media loader |
| 21:17 |
sofar |
it repeatedly asks for the same hash |
| 21:17 |
Krock |
you already reported that |
| 21:18 |
sofar |
obviously I now remember that |
| 21:18 |
Krock |
and I tried to do some investigations but never was able to reproduce it locelly |
| 21:18 |
Krock |
*locally |
| 21:20 |
sofar |
so, it looks like the dupes happen mostly only once, so caching is working on the client |
| 21:20 |
sofar |
failsauce multicraft, I bet |
| 21:21 |
sofar |
no, also 0.4.16 |
| 21:21 |
sofar |
heh, even 0.4.17 |
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sofar |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/clientmedia.cpp#L403 |
| 21:25 |
sofar |
I don't see it checking if other files have the same hash |
| 21:26 |
sofar |
it just looks at filestatus->received and filestatus->sha1 |
| 21:26 |
sofar |
so yeah, bad |
| 21:27 |
sofar |
first, we should patch the server not to send the same hash to the clients twice |
| 21:28 |
sofar |
and second, we should patch clients to not ask the media server twice for the same hash |
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| 21:32 |
paramat |
BillyS maybe your LVM bug is this? #7422 |
| 21:32 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7422 -- Lua_api.txt: Warn of errors possible with use of VoxelArea:index()/indexp() by paramat |
| 21:43 |
rubenwardy |
how can I git clone without asking for a password? |
| 21:43 |
rubenwardy |
I want it to just fail if auth is needed |
| 21:44 |
rubenwardy |
nvm |
| 21:44 |
rubenwardy |
answer: git clone -c credential.helper='!f() { cat > /dev/null; echo username=; echo password=; }; f' http://gitlab.com/rubenwardy/food |
| 21:46 |
sofar |
git:// ? |
| 21:47 |
sofar |
you can have a different fetch and push URL |
| 21:47 |
rubenwardy |
git:// didn't work |
| 21:47 |
rubenwardy |
although wait |
| 21:47 |
rubenwardy |
it just waits forever |
| 22:03 |
sofar |
!tell krock :lightbulb: my mtmediasrv daemon needs to filter duplicates, and I don't think it does! |
| 22:03 |
MinetestBot |
sofar: I'll pass that on when krock is around |
| 22:21 |
rubenwardy |
looool |
| 22:21 |
rubenwardy |
just wrote a stack over flow post |
| 22:21 |
rubenwardy |
then realised the answer |
| 22:21 |
rubenwardy |
rubberducking at its finest |
| 22:22 |
rubenwardy |
just so it doesn't go to waste: https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/88167015a8d46d33858e70522869e6a6 |
| 22:22 |
rubenwardy |
the answer is to use http://:@gitlab.com/rubenwardy/food instead |
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rubenwardy |
ie: username and password are empty |
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aerozoic |
$ make -j <what goes here to auto detect cores?> |
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aerozoic |
found it... $(nproc) |
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