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IRC log for #minetest-hub, 2018-04-03

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06:48 nerzhul can a moderator on forum make this as a post-it please ? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=19904
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08:15 rubenwardy There's no need to make a new news post every time
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09:58 nerzhul it's not like we did it every day hhe :) but at least you should just tell me instead of moving without notice :)
10:27 rubenwardy Changed my mind
10:27 rubenwardy Now sticky
10:28 rubenwardy I do think it's ridiculous to have 4 announcements for a release (initial, release date, RC, release)
10:35 nerzhul in fact we should inform users during dev but not as sticky, and make the release sticky
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12:05 Krock o/ Amaz
12:15 longerstaff13 good afternoon, every1
12:16 rubenwardy o/
12:16 Amaz Hi :)
12:16 ThomasMonroe o/ longer
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12:49 Peppy hi
12:50 Mr-Pardison hello
12:51 Peppy fighting with translation round 5 !
12:51 Mr-Pardison Excalibur helps with that.
12:52 Peppy sure, I can't wait for 0.5 !
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12:54 nerzhul Peppy, translations is a problem i don't know how to solve.
12:56 Peppy at least some try to make it better in the engine
12:56 Fixer https://itc.ua/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Intel_Coffee_Lake_Introduce_CPU-chipset_Motherboards.jpg
12:57 Fixer new exciting times when supported OS receive no support from Intel, what a nice time to be alive
12:59 Fixer probably thanks to MS zealotry
13:00 Peppy I'll probably end adding en.po files too  (very bad way to solve problem, I agree)
13:03 Krock no Windows 7 support. that's about the best spec I've seen on that table
13:04 Krock quick, install Windows XP or Linux/UNIX
13:05 Mr-Pardison at last.....
13:08 Fixer Krock: forums say Win7 works fine on it, they just refuse to support most popular OS out there
13:23 Fixer and it seems you can still install chipset drivers in different way, also works for usb3/nvme/etc
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17:31 nerzhul https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZ3HpVXXkAEgxpc.jpg
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18:12 xerox123 is there a mod to ban ip ranges?
18:15 xerox123 nevermind that, xban does it perfectly
18:15 xerox123 wait wut; it's creates a player? Created new entry for `184.100.*.*'
18:15 xerox123 . *sigh*
18:16 rubenwardy kek
18:16 rubenwardy iptables ')
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20:44 rubenwardy useful https://twitter.com/KenneyNL/status/981171019636342789
20:45 Krock nice. I hope the binary will work on Wine
20:47 rubenwardy https://twitter.com/NebulaBytes/status/981195248029327363
20:47 rubenwardy > uses Unity
20:48 rubenwardy > says porting to Linux isn't worth it
20:48 rubenwardy > UNITY
20:48 Krock oh well
20:49 rubenwardy remember he used  MTE for a while?
20:49 rubenwardy stopped due to lack of support for arty-farty things
20:55 paramat he doesn't seem to have developed any voxel game
20:55 rubenwardy he made Voxus with the Minetest engine for a while
20:55 rubenwardy then used Unity
20:55 paramat that is, looking at his webpage
20:55 rubenwardy then gave up
20:56 rubenwardy it's no longer features
20:56 rubenwardy -s+d
20:56 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=10895
21:05 Fixer nobody cares, make MTG great instead
21:05 rubenwardy MTG will never be great
21:06 Fixer REMOVE
21:06 nerzhul for me if MT wants to be another game, it should not be with MC graphics but comic like the link you posted, it's far more better, a little bit childish and then interesting for many people especially childs
21:09 Fixer i don't want it other, MT was meant to be smth like Minecraft, but not exactly, improve it, and ship other good games alongside with it
21:10 Fixer i don't want radical overhaul, just polish it and add missing features to make it fun
21:10 rubenwardy "meant"
21:11 rubenwardy PIxture is suppose to be voxus' spiritual successor
21:11 rubenwardy but the art isn't as good
21:11 Krock !mod pixture
21:11 MinetestBot Krock: Pixture by kaadmy - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=13181
21:11 rubenwardy maybe because no palette
21:12 rubenwardy most likely because not Kenney
21:12 Fixer it is all dead, probably
21:12 Fixer focus on MTG instead, drive people in development
21:12 Fixer from mod community
21:12 rubenwardy there's like no interest in developing MTG
21:13 Fixer it is not exciting anymore, minecraft is not too, hype is lost, world is shit (in trumpian voice)
21:13 Fixer but how you can make it excite again/
21:15 Fixer MTG development promotes depression, thats not good
21:15 * Fixer dives out of channel
21:17 Fixer nerzhul: there are like shittons of voxel-whatever-indie-block-shit-survival-comic-whatever, it is dead horse pretty much
21:17 Fixer just make a proper minecraft inspired game, without that End, potions, dragons shit
21:18 Fixer aka MTG + mobs + automation :D
21:18 Fixer with fixes and rebalance
21:19 Fixer 8bit pixel indie smth is a meme by now
21:20 paramat Fixer please restrain this non-stop anti-MTG negativity, when it's every day, most of your one-line comments, and 50% of what you write it is too much
21:21 rubenwardy it's better to be positive and try and encourage people to contribute
21:21 Shara ^
21:21 rubenwardy !mod minetest game
21:21 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Ingame time and lag(realtime) minetest_time by crazyginger72 - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9615
21:21 rubenwardy !mod minetest_game
21:21 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Ru-True Minetest game (RTMG) by Hackeridze - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=1241
21:21 rubenwardy !mod [minetest_game]
21:21 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Could not find anything.
21:21 * rubenwardy sighs
21:21 paramat maybe write a game yourself instead, actually contribute
21:21 Fixer lol
21:21 Fixer Ru-True Minetest Game
21:22 Shara Well if anyone wants to help with a game, but not MTG, feel free to let me know.
21:22 Fixer rubenwardy: hmm, one screenshot had something like swastika on it
21:25 Fixer problem is minecraft was more or less complete in 2011 during the hype, and minetest lost its moment to rapidly kitchen sink MTG during early days, now hype is over and "there's like no interest in developing MTG" (quoting rubenwardy), not negative, I'm proMTG and hoping for the good
21:25 Fixer also, where is octacian?
21:26 Fixer i was hoping he will write Applied Energystics analog for minetest he started, it is sad
21:26 rubenwardy he quit
21:26 paramat Fixer you're the most negative person in MT, against strong competition
21:26 rubenwardy lol
21:26 rubenwardy can I make a shirt saying that?
21:27 Fixer rubenwardy: really? damn, at least we have storage-interface, this thing is super useful
21:28 Fixer rubenwardy: maybe next time on that freenode.live smth in Bristol you can recruite some people to develope MTG alongside paramat
21:28 rubenwardy lol
21:28 Fixer just to speed things up
21:29 Fixer Is not they host it this year too?
21:29 paramat it's fine to state your opinions, the problem is the amount of it, it becomes tiresome and irritating
21:30 Shara Have to agree with paramat
21:30 Shara You say you want people to help, but I'd suspect you're more likely to put anyone off contributing
21:30 Shara You are certainly putting me off
21:30 Fixer nah, I'm spectator as of now
21:31 AndroBuilder_ hello :) is there something like a renewable energy mod? or plastic?
21:32 Fixer "RTMMP renamed to RTMG"
21:32 Fixer lol
21:33 Shara Hi AndroBuilder_. Sorry, but never looked into those kinds of mods
21:36 paramat anyway, i must politely ask you restrain your obsessive habit, which has got worse recently. it's the most miserable thing on MT IRC currently, again against very strong competition
21:37 Fixer competition with what?
21:38 paramat some gentle moderation ..
21:38 Fixer was kicked by paramat: Fixer
21:40 Amaz AndroBuilder_: Your best bet is technic, although Terumetal looks interesting too.
21:40 Amaz !mod terumetal
21:40 MinetestBot Amaz: Terumetal [terumet] by Terumoc - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=19194
21:40 Amaz ^ Link to the latter one
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21:52 rud0lf i can't wrap my head over the code, trying to understand damage calculation
21:53 rud0lf armor_groups = {fleshy=15} <-- does it mean the armor takes 15% of fleshy damage and if prone only for fleshy damage group?
21:53 * rubenwardy has no idea
21:53 rud0lf :(
21:54 rud0lf https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/lua_api.html#entity-damage-mechanism
21:54 rud0lf i'm talking about this formula
21:54 rubenwardy right
21:54 rubenwardy so say the target is only fleshy
21:55 rud0lf shouldn't object.armor_groups[group] be 100 for inexistent values?
21:55 rud0lf not 0 as said
21:55 rud0lf because that would make sense to me
21:55 rubenwardy then it would be       damage = 15 * X * targetFleshyGroup
21:55 rubenwardy X is a value which represents how charged the weapon is
21:55 rud0lf yup
21:56 rubenwardy target fleshy group is the value of the group on the target
21:56 rubenwardy 15 is the fleshy you gave above
21:56 rubenwardy oh wait
21:56 rud0lf so "cap" is tool that harms?
21:56 rubenwardy wrong way around
21:56 rubenwardy yeah, cap is the tool capactity
21:56 rubenwardy it would be       damage = cap * X * 15 / 100
21:57 rud0lf according to the formula, if entity armor_group does not exist, it means it's 100% durable against the attack
21:57 rubenwardy yes
21:57 rud0lf "object.armor_groups[group] is 0 for inexistent values"
21:57 rubenwardy invulnerable to that attack
21:57 rud0lf i see
21:57 rud0lf so i got it right, thank you for help
21:57 rubenwardy however
21:57 rud0lf yes?
21:57 rubenwardy tools often have different attack groups
21:58 rubenwardy so say something is only fleshy
21:58 rubenwardy a pick is mainly cracky but *does* has have a fleshy part to it
21:58 rubenwardy this is odd
21:58 rubenwardy does this mean being in multiple groups makes the item damage quikcer?
21:59 rud0lf yep
21:59 rubenwardy that feels counter intuitive
21:59 rubenwardy but oh well
22:00 rud0lf for me i counter intuitive that armor_group that not exists makes item 100% durable against that group
22:00 rubenwardy yeah
22:00 rubenwardy a group not existing is the same as it being 0
22:09 longerstaff13 how is everybody on this fine night?
22:13 rubenwardy longerstaff13: tied
22:13 rubenwardy +r
22:13 rubenwardy tiedr
22:13 longerstaff13 lol
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22:14 longerstaff13 o/ Aello
22:14 longerstaff13 aerozoic*
22:14 longerstaff13 tab complete works sometimes :P
22:14 aerozoic lol hi longerstaff13
22:15 longerstaff13 how are you
22:17 rubenwardy !seen Jordach
22:17 MinetestBot rubenwardy: jordach was last seen at 2018-03-23 23:07:12 UTC on #minetest-hub
22:21 paramat haven't seen Megaf for a while
22:21 rubenwardy !seen Megaf
22:21 MinetestBot rubenwardy: megaf was last seen at 2018-03-14 16:46:29 UTC on #minetest-hub
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23:49 rubenwardy !title https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=19908
23:49 MinetestBot rubenwardy: [Mod] Unlockable Crafting [0.1.0] [crafting] - No craft grid - Minetest Forums

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