Time |
Nick |
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longerstaff13-m |
Goodnight everyone o/ |
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sofar |
"GET /.git/config HTTP/1.1" 301 185 "-" "NYU Internet Census (https://scan.lol; |
06:17 |
sofar |
"GET /.ssh/id_rsa HTTP/1.1" 301 185 "-" "NYU Internet Census (https://scan |
06:17 |
sofar |
take a guess what country that is originating from |
06:34 |
rud0lf |
didn't know document root is /home/sofar |
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Peppy |
hi |
06:41 |
* Peppy |
vs translations. Round 4 |
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09:55 |
sfan5 |
sofar: russia |
09:55 |
sfan5 |
without cheating I'd probably guess united states |
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10:39 |
longerstaff13-m |
It's quiet for a Monday morning o.O |
10:46 |
Shara |
Hello all :) |
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11:12 |
longerstaff13 |
good afternoon Shara :) |
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11:48 |
longerstaff13 |
XD |
11:49 |
rubenwardy |
Yeah |
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12:16 |
nerzhul |
VM in a VM exists since years yes :) |
12:16 |
rubenwardy |
did it yearss ago |
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12:19 |
longerstaff13 |
o/ aerozoic |
12:19 |
aerozoic |
hi longerstaff13 |
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12:27 |
ThomasMonroe |
o/ aerozoic :) |
12:28 |
aerozoic |
hey ThomasMonroe how's it goin? |
12:28 |
ThomasMonroe |
good :D |
12:35 |
longerstaff13 |
hey ThomasMonroe |
12:36 |
Mr_Pardison |
question about textures: they should be 64x64, right? |
12:36 |
rubenwardy |
no, at least 256x256 |
12:36 |
rubenwardy |
</joke> |
12:37 |
ThomasMonroe |
heya longer :) |
12:37 |
rubenwardy |
textures should be 2^n (ie: 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256) |
12:37 |
ThomasMonroe |
hey rubenwardy |
12:37 |
Mr_Pardison |
I'll have to contract the work out since I can't draw worth much. |
12:37 |
Mr_Pardison |
128 it is. |
12:38 |
rubenwardy |
it's typical to have them 16x16 |
12:38 |
Shara |
Mr_Pardison: textures for what? |
12:38 |
rubenwardy |
o/ |
12:38 |
Mr_Pardison |
inventory buttons. |
12:38 |
Shara |
In that case, I'd go with testing to see what looks good. They are a bit of a soecial case |
12:38 |
Shara |
special* |
12:38 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
12:38 |
Mr_Pardison |
alright. |
12:39 |
Mr_Pardison |
thanks for the help. |
12:40 |
ThomasMonroe |
hi Shara :D |
12:40 |
Shara |
Hi ThomasMonroe, how's it going? |
12:41 |
ThomasMonroe |
good :D did you have a nice Easter? |
12:41 |
shivajiva |
Hiya ThomasM :) |
12:41 |
ThomasMonroe |
heeey shivajiva long time no speak. :D |
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12:42 |
shivajiva |
yea, I missed your last hello, saw it hours later lol |
12:42 |
paramat |
to avoid distortion due to formspec scaling i found that 128x128 with a slight blur works best. Mr_Pardison see game#2020 |
12:42 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/2020 -- Creative: New textures for less distortion by paramat |
12:43 |
paramat |
also see https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/2019#issuecomment-357852262 must be RGBA |
12:45 |
paramat |
make sure to resize the screen to see how it looks when scaled |
12:46 |
Shara |
ThomasMonroe: pretty good thanks |
12:46 |
rubenwardy |
we really should support SVGs or icon mipmapping |
12:46 |
ThomasMonroe |
SVGs would be nice |
13:08 |
xerox123 |
http://needsmorejpeg.com/ |
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17:51 |
rud0lf |
is minetest.override_item stackable? |
17:51 |
rubenwardy |
? |
17:52 |
rubenwardy |
override item sets the fields you mention to something else |
17:52 |
rubenwardy |
you can call it multiple times |
17:52 |
rud0lf |
https://gist.github.com/rud01f/abc83f3d1531b8f2177ac228d4c29a17 |
17:52 |
rud0lf |
i mean this case |
17:52 |
rubenwardy |
that's ifne |
17:53 |
rud0lf |
if i called it in two different mods? |
17:53 |
rubenwardy |
sure |
17:53 |
rud0lf |
thanks |
17:53 |
rubenwardy |
although the old_place would be different things |
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20:48 |
Fixer |
HEY, LITTLE DRUM! |
20:49 |
* Fixer |
is compiling newest engine |
20:49 |
rubenwardy |
the newst, the bestest |
20:49 |
Krock |
the goodestest |
20:49 |
Fixer |
FIX MTG |
20:50 |
Fixer |
i'm ok with flies, make mtg great again before I retire |
20:50 |
Fixer |
Mr_Pardison: recruite it to develope MTG |
20:51 |
* Shara |
recruits Fixer |
20:51 |
Shara |
PRs please! |
20:51 |
Fixer |
I'm useless, I can't code, only test (depending on mood, procrastination) |
20:51 |
Mr_Pardison |
I can't code much but I'm forcing myself to do so. |
20:51 |
Krock |
Fixer, "I'm useless" and "only test" don't fit into one sentence |
20:51 |
Fixer |
i've looked into lua |
20:52 |
Fixer |
but it just does not feel exciting to me |
20:52 |
Fixer |
no lightbulbs above my head (also) |
20:52 |
Krock |
yeah, alone index starting with 1 hurts |
20:52 |
Fixer |
it is just, meh |
20:52 |
* Mr_Pardison |
paints a light-bulb yellow and holds it over Fixer's head |
20:53 |
Fixer |
it is exciting to read about this stuff sometimes, but not to code :D |
21:03 |
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21:22 |
Fixer |
i've erased at least two lines of very provocative MTG related text, proud of myself |
21:23 |
* Fixer |
looking at https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/projects/1 |
21:34 |
longerstaff13 |
I'm officially on GitHub \o/ |
21:35 |
rubenwardy |
Congrats |
21:35 |
longerstaff13 |
cheers ruben :D |
21:38 |
rubenwardy |
I joined in 2012 |
21:38 |
rubenwardy |
Minetest made me |
21:39 |
sofar |
github claims I registered in 2003 |
21:39 |
sofar |
I didn't even knew they existed back then? |
21:40 |
sofar |
ha no they launched in 2008 |
21:41 |
longerstaff13 |
I joined actual servers in 2015, rubenwardy |
21:42 |
rubenwardy |
Huh? |
21:42 |
longerstaff13 |
going on 3 years in September |
21:42 |
rubenwardy |
Minetest servers? |
21:42 |
longerstaff13 |
Minetest |
21:42 |
longerstaff13 |
yeah |
21:43 |
rubenwardy |
Sofar: where are you seeing that? |
21:43 |
nerzhul |
sofar: https://github.com/sofar?tab=overview&from=2007-12-01&to=2007-12-31 |
21:43 |
nerzhul |
but yes your historic goes to 2003 |
21:43 |
nerzhul |
i'm not sure git exists in 2003 |
21:43 |
sofar |
it's from git trees that we migrated to github |
21:43 |
nerzhul |
git: 2005 |
21:44 |
sofar |
those were migrated from SVN |
21:44 |
sofar |
and those from CVS, lol |
21:44 |
nerzhul |
lol |
21:44 |
Krock |
that's an impressive history of data |
21:44 |
nerzhul |
sofar: https://github.com/torvalds |
21:44 |
nerzhul |
1991 |
21:45 |
sofar |
https://github.com/lunar-linux/moonbase-other/commits/master?after=05929a41b8eb2db96463c3afacea5dc5d34e100a+62070 |
21:45 |
Krock |
probably one of the most followed people on GitHub |
21:46 |
sofar |
I didn't do kernel work until 2006 |
21:46 |
rubenwardy |
Yes, was going to say thar |
21:47 |
sofar |
well, one patch in 2005 I think |
21:47 |
rubenwardy |
It works on git commits to imported things will count |
21:48 |
nerzhul |
easy to cheat |
21:48 |
nerzhul |
https://github.com/nerzhul |
21:49 |
nerzhul |
https://github.com/nerzhul/test/commits/master |
21:49 |
nerzhul |
commited before any VCS repo exists, or gpg :) |
21:49 |
sofar |
instead of cheating, fix nextcloud app to not b0rk auto uploads |
21:49 |
sofar |
:) |
21:50 |
nerzhul |
what do you mean ? i don't maintain nextcloud app (official if you mean) |
21:50 |
nerzhul |
i only maintain phonesync and weather |
21:50 |
sofar |
I'm fairly happy with nextcloud |
21:50 |
nerzhul |
merging #7189, travis is now happy (sorry for heating the cpu ^^) |
21:50 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7189 -- Fix many issues reported by clang-tidy by nerzhul |
21:50 |
sofar |
only thing I really want is a completely independent calendar reminder caldav app |
21:50 |
sofar |
something that doesn't sync with my phone calendar |
21:50 |
Krock |
nerzhul, that's not enough. make it something like 100 BC |
21:50 |
nerzhul |
i'm not a nextcloud coredev, just third party apps |
21:52 |
nerzhul |
Krock impossible timestamp starts in 1970 |
21:52 |
nerzhul |
git refuse before that (invalid date) |
21:53 |
Krock |
unsigned integer? oh well.. |
21:54 |
nerzhul |
yes |
21:54 |
nerzhul |
don't forget uint32_t -> 2038 bug :p |
21:54 |
nerzhul |
not all OS are ready. If i remember only BSD and Solaris are ready atm |
21:55 |
Krock |
it's going to be a funny time |
21:55 |
rud0lf |
YFFFFFFFF bug |
21:57 |
Krock |
news be like: 2038, the year of ancient software fails. Billions of USD damage. Trump for his 5th time in row as President |
21:57 |
Fixer |
in 1 month it is my 7 years minetest anniversary |
21:57 |
rubenwardy |
Nice |
21:58 |
rubenwardy |
Already past my 6 years' |
21:58 |
rud0lf |
Fixer: elaborate |
21:58 |
rubenwardy |
*passed |
21:58 |
rud0lf |
minetest's so ancient? |
21:58 |
Fixer |
yes |
21:58 |
rubenwardy |
Since 2011 |
21:58 |
rud0lf |
i thought it's year old project or so |
21:58 |
Fixer |
started in 2010 iirc |
21:59 |
rubenwardy |
Oh yeah |
22:01 |
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22:03 |
Fixer |
every year I should thank all those mod makers who made MTG playable and great core community of server owners, preserving that feel of golden days, without that profit-driven-insanity in minecraft with ranks for money, pay to win, minigames cancer |
22:04 |
rubenwardy |
We need moaah |
22:05 |
sofar |
not according to mineminer |
22:05 |
sofar |
lol |
22:05 |
Fixer |
in 2011 I've evaluated several voxel based games, Infiniminer, Minecraft Beta 1.5, Minetest and also two games I forgot |
22:05 |
Fixer |
I've ended up with minetest |
22:06 |
Fixer |
minecraft beta was interesting, but fps was near 30-40, and 1536mb of DDR1 RAM (LUXURY) I had at the time and java dislike (RAM reasons), and probably that Z-buffer error (thank you ATI) |
22:07 |
Fixer |
maybe that Z-buffer bug in beta and open-source zealoutry moved me to minetest |
22:07 |
Fixer |
that actually had that Z-buffer bug as well actually |
22:08 |
Fixer |
it was fixed somewhere after 5 years with 1 line fix in code by RBA |
22:08 |
Fixer |
saved my eyes, RIP RBA |
22:08 |
rubenwardy |
RIP |
22:10 |
Fixer |
back in the time on WinXP i had 1536 of mem: 200mb used by XP, 300-500mb by Firefox, 100mb by Skype, it left me pretty tight for minecraft beta, minetest used much less RAM and also stuttered like crazy in SP, but was okayish in MP |
22:11 |
rubenwardy |
Hmm |
22:11 |
rubenwardy |
Kinda want to play 0.3.1, just to see the progress |
22:12 |
longerstaff13 |
0.3.1 is nostalgic |
22:12 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: better textures, more blocks, carts, that's it :D |
22:12 |
longerstaff13 |
that's actually what I started with in the Ubuntu software centre in 2012 |
22:13 |
Fixer |
8 years of MTG progress in 3 words: blocks, carts, textures |
22:13 |
longerstaff13 |
(I was singleplayer until 2015 when I found out the server list works) |
22:13 |
Fixer |
and regress in mobs |
22:14 |
Fixer |
we had mobs for brief time |
22:14 |
Shara |
Well now you have plants pretending to be mobs |
22:14 |
longerstaff13 |
lol |
22:14 |
Shara |
I really should sort out those butterflies soon |
22:14 |
Fixer |
pedobears aka dungeon masters were the funniest, they strip mined entire mountain bases in random fasion |
22:14 |
Fixer |
Shara: thats the sad part, they are decor, nice decor |
22:15 |
Shara |
Yes, but not mobs |
22:15 |
Fixer |
we still need mobs |
22:15 |
Shara |
I'd like to see mobs added as well |
22:15 |
* xerox123 |
may turn up to freenode live this year :D |
22:15 |
Fixer |
that will be developed/merged sometime in the future (I hope) |
22:16 |
Fixer |
I liked kray.dy.fi server in 2011, now I'm looking at very long running MCOnline server, their architecture was just like ours on that server |
22:17 |
Fixer |
in 2011 |
22:17 |
Fixer |
it was same culture |
22:17 |
Fixer |
it is just we were poor open source hippies, without redstone and without carts |
22:17 |
Fixer |
we had rails built in 2011, is not that LOL? LIKE L O L ? |
22:19 |
Fixer |
that server did not have mushroomman carts, rails were placed as a HOPE? I guess, VISIONS of better future, with carts, soon |
22:19 |
Fixer |
with intersections |
22:19 |
Fixer |
path was above water |
22:20 |
Fixer |
and celeron often hopped in on servers, to test some stuff and such |
22:21 |
Fixer |
and I wined about occlusion culling in 2012 iirc |
22:21 |
rubenwardy |
Celeron also deved then |
22:21 |
Fixer |
yeah |
22:22 |
Fixer |
funniest part when someone logined as Notch on server I was, was pretty funny |
22:22 |
Fixer |
that was like 2011-2012 |
22:22 |
Fixer |
before MS buyout I think |
22:23 |
rubenwardy |
Way before |
22:23 |
Fixer |
he was not trolling or anything, maybe it was real, or just for fun |
22:23 |
Fixer |
wonder if Notch even knows about minetest, he actually had option to open source Minecraft in case of failure |
22:24 |
Calinou |
haha, I see Krock in #winehq :D |
22:24 |
rubenwardy |
One of his staff did |
22:24 |
rubenwardy |
Jeb, I think |
22:24 |
Calinou |
Fixer: https://lut.im/LBCkLAgWow/E8maGAfjEJNmL7nR.png |
22:24 |
Calinou |
I got Midtown Madness 2 running in WINE |
22:24 |
Fixer |
nice |
22:24 |
rubenwardy |
He mentioned that people making their own is pretty cool |
22:24 |
Calinou |
I can't get an hexedit to work to set resolution to 2560×1440, and haven't found a way to force MSAA + AF either |
22:24 |
Calinou |
I haven't got Motocross Madness 2 working either |
22:26 |
Krock |
Calinou, how did you do that? It always crashed for me when loading the map |
22:26 |
Calinou |
I don't really know… I didn't have to set up anything specific |
22:26 |
Calinou |
I told WINE to emulate a virtual desktop so the game runs in a window |
22:26 |
Calinou |
(I set the window to 1600×1200, the largest resolution offered by the vanilla game) |
22:26 |
Fixer |
i remember one day when celeron-- made a new server map, divided it into two halfs (one for interacts and one for not iirc), bunch of people logined and played, later that server had amazingly good grief |
22:26 |
Calinou |
(the screenshot is 1440×900) |
22:26 |
Fixer |
we had running |
22:27 |
Calinou |
Fixer: oh yeah, the two halves |
22:27 |
Calinou |
rubenwardy: yeah, jeb_ wrote in 2014 "we're fine with people making clones as long as they don't use Minecraft assets" |
22:27 |
Fixer |
we already had mobs in late 2011 |
22:31 |
Fixer |
https://i.imgur.com/R4eAVig.png that spawn on 2012-04-08 |
22:31 |
Fixer |
or so |
22:32 |
Fixer |
2012-04-19 actually |
22:32 |
Fixer |
i had fly it seems |
22:33 |
Fixer |
"Google Chrome tool that scans Windows computers for malware" |
22:37 |
Fixer |
nice |
22:37 |
Fixer |
9 megabytes |
22:37 |
rubenwardy |
That's the fat images which I was required to add |
22:37 |
rubenwardy |
There's like 7 of them |
22:37 |
Fixer |
nice, I was expect Calinouish response like 900mb is norm today, you are dinosaur |
22:38 |
Fixer |
was expecting* |
22:38 |
rubenwardy |
9MB is not that much though |
22:38 |
rubenwardy |
XD |
22:41 |
rubenwardy |
Pretty poor really, they should've given me my own account and deleted it after |
22:41 |
Fixer |
"not to feed kitchen scraps to f..." |
22:41 |
Fixer |
what |
22:42 |
Fixer |
damn, that page does not respond well when images are opened |
22:43 |
rubenwardy |
Yay play |
22:44 |
rubenwardy |
That's possibly the only good app that company has ever made |
22:44 |
rubenwardy |
Because I did it 100% by myself |
22:44 |
Fixer |
heh |
22:45 |
rubenwardy |
Their QA was nonexistent, and they hired mainly from uni students |
22:49 |
Fixer |
high quality enterprise business in 2018 |
22:49 |
Fixer |
jokes come true |
22:49 |
rubenwardy |
Yeah, it's basically every bad employee meme put together |
22:50 |
Fixer |
bribe out a site project from government for 10 millions, find a student from India to write for $100, ???, profits! |
22:51 |
Fixer |
i'm pretty sure someone did this already |
22:51 |
Fixer |
worst part is outsourcing for NA clients, it is like, you will receive indian like pay, but actually we booked you as $1000 per month, but we took $800 away, have fun! |
22:55 |
Fixer |
only the bestest and finest business practices |
22:55 |
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22:55 |
Fixer |
Chinese are probably way more effective at those |
22:56 |
Fixer |
doing business in China is poker face in a cube |
23:03 |
Fixer |
also, thanks for VBO and SFS PR, made a difference |
23:05 |
Fixer |
z-sorting is most annoying thing left |
23:08 |
Fixer |
from visual bugs |
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