| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:05 |
Fixer |
instead of ban will be nice to have some kind of post limiter, say 1 post per day for 1 month |
| 00:06 |
celeron55 |
yeah, again... phpbb |
| 00:06 |
celeron55 |
screw phpbb |
| 00:06 |
tumeninodes |
smf celeron55..., smf |
| 00:06 |
celeron55 |
there's no end to these obviously good ideas that just don't exist |
| 00:07 |
Sokomine |
celeron55: all forum software is somewhat...suboptimal. i miss good old usenet news |
| 00:07 |
tumeninodes |
far more modules/options available |
| 00:07 |
celeron55 |
i'm pretty certain usenet news is also suboptimal |
| 00:08 |
celeron55 |
tumeninodes: more doesn't mean "those that we need" |
| 00:08 |
celeron55 |
phpbb has a boatload of options |
| 00:08 |
celeron55 |
out of which maybe 5% are useful |
| 00:09 |
celeron55 |
the only reasonable way to go is extendability via a stable interface |
| 00:09 |
tumeninodes |
but probably more of what you "do" need |
| 00:09 |
tumeninodes |
and "true" to your most recent comment |
| 00:09 |
celeron55 |
does smf have a stable plugin interface? |
| 00:10 |
tumeninodes |
mmmmm... I believe so |
| 00:10 |
Sokomine |
celeron55: it was a lot easier to ignore posters or threads with a common newsreader. no need to add to a mysterious "foes" list, no clicking of unintresting threads just to get them marked as read, no the-forum-has-to-keep-track-of-what-i-read |
| 00:10 |
rubenwardy |
how do you use a newsreader with phpbb? |
| 00:14 |
Sokomine |
you can't. that's the trouble. newsreaders where very useful configurable keyboard-controllable software. forum sites lack means for efficient reading. about all the advantage they've got is easy-to-use for cueless people and images |
| 00:15 |
celeron55 |
harder to use for spambots is also a pretty good feature |
| 00:15 |
celeron55 |
not that you really get any of that with a standard phpbb install, but... sometimes you do |
| 00:18 |
Sokomine |
the forum gets hit by spambots from time to time. luckily the moderators do a good job and remove it fast |
| 00:21 |
tumeninodes |
botz be botz... and always will be |
| 00:21 |
rubenwardy |
not anymore |
| 00:21 |
tumeninodes |
why, did you kill them rubenwardy? haha |
| 00:22 |
rubenwardy |
new users have to have posts approved, which kills spammers |
| 00:22 |
tumeninodes |
awesome |
| 00:22 |
red-001 |
ah so those are teh measures |
| 00:23 |
tumeninodes |
rubenwardy knows how to kill |
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* Sokomine |
takes a sword from one of the moderators and kills sofar for building an impressive puzzle box with annoying jumping parts |
| 00:30 |
tumeninodes |
inside the box rulez |
| 00:51 |
Shara |
Sadly I share Sokomine's frustration to the point of not feeling interested in the server |
| 00:52 |
tumeninodes |
I have not gone on in a while but, I love dying in lava |
| 00:55 |
Sokomine |
Shara: there are some very nice boxes. it's just that extremly annoying jumping :-( just doesn't work for me |
| 00:55 |
Shara |
It's just a huge turn off for me. |
| 00:56 |
Sokomine |
..and i even jump around pointlessly out of fun sometimes in the game as such. but aimed jumping...seldom works |
| 00:56 |
tumeninodes |
I never got into the whole parkour thing but I like ITB |
| 00:56 |
Shara |
I can do it just... the server feels like it has so much promise in terms of being something other than that... then it throws that at me, and there's better jumping around type games elsewhere |
| 00:56 |
tumeninodes |
I really wish someone could do one like pitfall with vines... so I could do some serious dying |
| 00:57 |
Shara |
So the moment I hit any kind of jumping around thing there, it's just quit time. |
| 00:57 |
tumeninodes |
baby |
| 00:57 |
tumeninodes |
do you pout too? haha |
| 00:58 |
Shara |
Then, but I poke. Usually in eyes :) |
| 00:58 |
tumeninodes |
<backs away slowly> |
| 00:58 |
Shara |
Hehehe |
| 00:58 |
Sokomine |
Shara: yes...mostly the same here. i tried that box for a longer time (was really well done), but...the jumping is frustrating. if it's too much jumping i give up soon |
| 00:59 |
tumeninodes |
killing something would be nice |
| 00:59 |
tumeninodes |
kill this, it drops a key |
| 00:59 |
Shara |
I hear CTF is good for random slaughter. |
| 00:59 |
tumeninodes |
kill that, and it explodes and kills you |
| 01:00 |
tumeninodes |
nah by the time you get there..., everyone is already dead... |
| 01:00 |
tumeninodes |
cept this one dude |
| 01:00 |
tumeninodes |
rupert? robin? ruben? that's it... rubenwardy |
| 01:02 |
Shara |
I've also heard it can be very amusing to chase him with a sword. |
| 01:03 |
tumeninodes |
that would be entertaining to see on youtuby |
| 01:05 |
Sokomine |
hmm |
| 01:05 |
* Sokomine |
hands a sword to a sandmob and walks away |
| 01:12 |
tumeninodes |
that sound fairly irresponsible Sokomine |
| 02:01 |
sofar |
btw, the idea of itb isn't to dictate what types of boxes people make |
| 02:01 |
sofar |
that would be silly |
| 02:02 |
sofar |
we just want people to make the boxes they like making |
| 02:02 |
sofar |
so, some people make jumping boxes |
| 02:02 |
sofar |
some people make lava boxes |
| 02:02 |
sofar |
some people make switches everywhere |
| 02:02 |
sofar |
my boxes are mostly a balanced mix, but, I'm only 1 of ~30 box builders |
| 02:03 |
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| 02:09 |
Sokomine |
maybe you ought to label them so that players can choose the type they like |
| 02:21 |
Shara |
^ |
| 02:21 |
Shara |
If I could just play and pick what I felt like, I'd be happy to spend some time there. |
| 02:22 |
Shara |
I also seemed to be stuck repeating thigns I already did last time I was there, since apparently I'm not past the tutorial even though I remember having done the levels before, and it makes it kind of dull |
| 02:24 |
Shara |
It's just frustrating because it's close enough to what I hoped to do that I really want to be able to enjoy it :) |
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| 04:51 |
tumeninodes |
if I have a nodebox slab, is it possible for me to set the space above it (which makes up the rest of a full node) as air? And if yes, how? I need an example. This is just for a ridiculous idea that just popped in my head |
| 05:01 |
tumeninodes |
can a new table be added such as perhaps "air_above = {" |
| 05:04 |
tumeninodes |
or, not table... whatver it's called, added to param2 (really wish I knew this $hit better) |
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| 05:12 |
paramat |
the rest of the space is already air essentially |
| 05:13 |
tumeninodes |
I know, it's just I had an idea, probably stupid but now it's gnawing at my brain |
| 05:13 |
paramat |
but the space above the slab can't be considered a separate node as then you would have 2 nodes at 1 pos |
| 05:13 |
tumeninodes |
I have done this before :P |
| 05:14 |
tumeninodes |
I know about 2 nodes in one nodespace and I defy it haha |
| 05:14 |
paramat |
you can have a node elsewhere that extends into another node though |
| 05:14 |
paramat |
such as kelp in mtg |
| 05:14 |
tumeninodes |
my thinking is related to the water problem with stair and slab nodes |
| 05:14 |
tumeninodes |
I was thinking that too maybe that method could be used somehow |
| 05:15 |
tumeninodes |
I was just looking at the code for kelp |
| 05:15 |
paramat |
yes a similar approach can be used already |
| 05:16 |
tumeninodes |
that method should also be added to grass 1-5 as they sometimes find their way under water as well (unless it already has) |
| 05:16 |
paramat |
the slab or stair would be a full cubic node plus an extension into the node above, the extension is the slab or stair shape |
| 05:17 |
tumeninodes |
would this inhibit other nodes being set above them? |
| 05:17 |
paramat |
the slab/stair could then coexist with a water node above |
| 05:17 |
tumeninodes |
would be nice |
| 05:18 |
paramat |
any node would be addable above, not just liquids |
| 05:18 |
tumeninodes |
hmmm |
| 05:19 |
paramat |
land grasses do not appear underwater in mapgen so it's not worth the complexity |
| 05:20 |
paramat |
so how do you defy and get 2 nodes at 1 pos then? |
| 05:21 |
tumeninodes |
I guess that makes sense. although if as a result of landscaping, it does happen too... one has to go around punching it out, as it looks odd. Besides grass does sometimes gorw underwater as in lakes |
| 05:21 |
tumeninodes |
I hack it hahaha. It was a mistake I made once and then I just went with it... |
| 05:21 |
tumeninodes |
my stackslabs mod (but it affects nodes being placed above) |
| 05:22 |
tumeninodes |
I set the coords of the node to the top of the node below and viola |
| 05:23 |
tumeninodes |
I've used the same method with a couple other things as well |
| 05:24 |
tumeninodes |
setting a window or gate into an arched window node in stoneworks |
| 05:24 |
tumeninodes |
that was done by setting the positions to the node behind |
| 05:26 |
tumeninodes |
but right now my brain is fixated at trying to resolve the slab and stair node/water issue, because it's driving me nuts for a long time now |
| 05:31 |
paramat |
just make a nodebox that extends halfway into the node above, or plus extra bits on top for stairs |
| 05:37 |
tumeninodes |
not sure how that is done but will try. is it just a matter of adding a second {positions go here}, line? Eh, I'll goof around with it and if I can't figure it out I will just open an issue and let the pros do it :D. thank you paramat |
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| 09:47 |
tenplus1 |
hi folks |
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| 11:21 |
tenplus1 |
o/ |
| 11:21 |
tenplus1 |
Farming Redo updated to 1.31 - Added Pineapple (also juice) |
| 11:26 |
Megaf |
Hi tenplus1 |
| 11:26 |
tenplus1 |
hi Megaf |
| 11:27 |
Megaf |
rubenwardy: so, just made a simple compile test here, the 4 threads Atom from Kimsufi vs 4 threads ARMv7 from that dedicated Jordach suggested |
| 11:28 |
Megaf |
using builtin lua, gmp, json and using systems sqlite3 |
| 11:28 |
Megaf |
ARM { |
| 11:28 |
Megaf |
real 11m25.739s |
| 11:28 |
Megaf |
user 41m4.640s |
| 11:28 |
Megaf |
sys 1m0.380s |
| 11:28 |
Megaf |
} |
| 11:28 |
Megaf |
Intel Atom { |
| 11:28 |
Megaf |
real 13m43.317s |
| 11:28 |
Megaf |
user 48m6.320s |
| 11:28 |
Megaf |
sys 3m27.176s |
| 11:28 |
Megaf |
} |
| 11:29 |
tenplus1 |
arm was faster, nice... what Ghz are each running |
| 11:29 |
Megaf |
No idea whats the GHz of the ARM CPU |
| 11:29 |
tenplus1 |
model ? |
| 11:30 |
Megaf |
Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N2800 @ 1.86GHz |
| 11:30 |
Megaf |
tenplus1: ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l) that's all I know |
| 11:31 |
tenplus1 |
1000mhz |
| 11:31 |
tenplus1 |
wow, slower ghz than atom but faster compile time :D nice |
| 11:31 |
Megaf |
tenplus1: well, 4 real cores vs 4 fake cores |
| 11:32 |
tenplus1 |
am surprised that an arm desktop hasn't made an appearance yet |
| 11:32 |
Megaf |
tenplus1: And I presume it uses less power too |
| 11:32 |
tenplus1 |
2watts vs intel atom 48watt |
| 11:32 |
Megaf |
iPhone and Samsung CPUs are already way more powerful than my Core2Duo... |
| 11:32 |
tenplus1 |
my atom 1.8 dual core ht is good but yeah, mobiles kick it's ass |
| 11:34 |
Megaf |
Ok, I have two identical Megaf Servers online, one is ARM the other is ATOM |
| 11:35 |
Megaf |
same compiler, same OS, same build options |
| 11:35 |
Megaf |
!server Megaf Server TEST |
| 11:35 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server ARM TEST v4 0.4.17 | 163.172.154.119:30003 | Clients: 0/20, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.17-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 12ms |
| 11:35 |
Megaf |
!server Megaf |
| 11:35 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server ARM TEST v4 0.4.17 | 163.172.154.119:30003 | Clients: 0/20, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.17-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 12ms |
| 11:35 |
Megaf |
!server Megaf Server v4 |
| 11:35 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server ARM TEST v4 0.4.17 | 163.172.154.119:30003 | Clients: 0/20, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.17-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 12ms |
| 11:35 |
Megaf |
meh |
| 11:35 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 11:35 |
Megaf |
!up mt.megaf.info 30003 |
| 11:35 |
MinetestBot |
mt.megaf.info:30003 is up (10ms) |
| 11:35 |
Megaf |
Atom ^ |
| 11:36 |
Megaf |
!up 163.172.154.119 30003 |
| 11:36 |
MinetestBot |
163.172.154.119:30003 is up (11ms) |
| 11:36 |
Megaf |
ARM ^ |
| 11:36 |
Megaf |
both in France :D |
| 11:36 |
tenplus1 |
negligable diff |
| 11:36 |
Megaf |
ok, Imma gonna have lunch now. feel free to test. cya |
| 11:37 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe, laters dude |
| 11:37 |
tenplus1 |
might make noms also :P |
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| 11:43 |
tenplus1 |
o/ fixer |
| 11:50 |
Fixer |
hi |
| 11:58 |
Wayward_One |
Hi all :) |
| 12:00 |
tenplus1 |
hi Wayward |
| 12:00 |
tenplus1 |
o/ |
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| 12:04 |
tenplus1 |
hi fussel |
| 12:07 |
IhrFussel |
Guys I made a command that should take 50 steel ingots from the player when sending it ... can anyone tell me how I get that specific item and only 50 of it? |
| 12:08 |
IhrFussel |
Hi tenplus1 |
| 12:08 |
tenplus1 |
take_item(50) |
| 12:09 |
tenplus1 |
check how this barter store does it: https://github.com/tenplus1/money/blob/master/init.lua |
| 12:10 |
tenplus1 |
it checks if they exist and then takes on trade |
| 12:10 |
Megaf |
back |
| 12:10 |
tenplus1 |
wb |
| 12:11 |
IhrFussel |
Wait just a simple inv:remove_item() ? |
| 12:11 |
tenplus1 |
yar :P |
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tenplus1 |
hi Jordach |
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| 12:40 |
tenplus1 |
hi aerozoic |
| 12:41 |
aerozoic |
wazup tenplus1 |
| 12:41 |
tenplus1 |
tweaking textures :) added pineapple to farming redo |
| 12:42 |
aerozoic |
Finally giving into demands? XD |
| 12:42 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe, textures are a bit crappy but it works :) pineapple juice added too |
| 12:44 |
aerozoic |
oh hey tenplus1, i was wondering if you have your own server? |
| 12:44 |
tenplus1 |
Xanadu |
| 12:44 |
aerozoic |
OOOOh that's yours? Awesome |
| 12:44 |
tenplus1 |
Shinji owns the server, I do the mods and features :P |
| 12:45 |
aerozoic |
oh cool |
| 12:45 |
aerozoic |
So all or most of your mods are on that server? |
| 12:45 |
tenplus1 |
yeah, a good way to test them all :D |
| 12:45 |
tenplus1 |
will hopefully add the new pineapple tonight |
| 12:46 |
aerozoic |
Nice, i should check it out sometime. |
| 12:46 |
aerozoic |
Oh i had another random thought, it's seems funny that farming redo has pepper but no salt. |
| 12:47 |
tenplus1 |
was thinking of adding a simple recipe to cook a bucket of water into salt (giving bac bucket) |
| 12:49 |
aerozoic |
I was thinkin about that myself, there is no obvious way to make salt. |
| 12:50 |
tenplus1 |
I'll draw a salt shaker and add recipe to cook water bucket into salt :) |
| 12:51 |
aerozoic |
Sounds good to me. |
| 12:51 |
tenplus1 |
and add group:salt so it can be used in all ercipes |
| 13:03 |
tenplus1 |
git updated, salt added |
| 13:08 |
tenplus1 |
I was thinking that instead of adding crops to the mapgen, maybe add a Garden Plant that when broken gives you 3x random crops |
| 13:09 |
tenplus1 |
also adding utensils and pots/pans for specific recipe crafts |
| 13:09 |
tenplus1 |
1x pumpkin + 1x knife = 9x slided pumpkin |
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tenplus1 |
hi LJ |
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| 13:26 |
tenplus1 |
hi mister |
| 13:26 |
Mr_Pardison |
morning. |
| 13:26 |
tenplus1 |
o/ |
| 13:33 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 13:33 |
tenplus1 |
hi Cal |
| 13:33 |
Mr_Pardison |
hello Calinou |
| 13:34 |
Raven262 |
Hi Calinou, tenplus1. |
| 13:35 |
tenplus1 |
hey Raven :P |
| 13:36 |
Raven262 |
I've been here the whole time, just invisible :P |
| 13:36 |
tenplus1 |
using ninja skills |
| 13:36 |
* Mr_Pardison |
goes incognito |
| 13:37 |
Raven262 |
Calinou, You might want to see this https://crpgbook.wordpress.com/2018/02/05/update-19-crpg-book-released/ |
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tenplus1 |
hi twoelk |
| 14:06 |
twoelk |
o/ |
| 14:07 |
Mr_Pardison |
\o twoelk |
| 14:07 |
Calinou |
Raven262: I'm not into RPGs |
| 14:07 |
Calinou |
Deus Ex is the most RPG-y thing I can tolerate :P |
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tenplus1 |
hi RobbieF |
| 14:09 |
RobbieF |
hey there tenplus1! |
| 14:09 |
RobbieF |
how are you? |
| 14:09 |
tenplus1 |
how's tricks ? am okie, working on a few mods |
| 14:10 |
RobbieF |
great man. NEMS is doing very well and growing, and I'm releasing a new Plex Media Server distro for Raspberry Pi 3. |
| 14:10 |
tenplus1 |
ooh nice one dude :) |
| 14:11 |
tenplus1 |
seems arm servers are running smoother than intel atm |
| 14:11 |
RobbieF |
NEMS is blowing up though - been an exciting time. Even Nagios themselves took notice. |
| 14:11 |
RobbieF |
They're doing a case study on it. |
| 14:11 |
RobbieF |
haha yeah really eh? |
| 14:11 |
RobbieF |
smooth, just not fast. LOL |
| 14:11 |
tenplus1 |
Nagios ? |
| 14:11 |
RobbieF |
but learning to milk it with things like ZFS |
| 14:11 |
RobbieF |
whoops |
| 14:11 |
Mr_Pardison |
did someone say tacos? |
| 14:11 |
RobbieF |
fingers move faster than brain |
| 14:11 |
RobbieF |
ZRAM |
| 14:11 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe |
| 14:12 |
RobbieF |
Nagios Inc I think it is? - the company that develops the monitoring software at the heart of NEMS (I used their open source version to build upon) |
| 14:12 |
RobbieF |
maybe it's Nagios Foundation? I unno. |
| 14:12 |
tenplus1 |
heh, you're making it better |
| 14:13 |
RobbieF |
Nagios is what Nasa uses to monitor their gear. |
| 14:13 |
RobbieF |
Yeah, I actually am TBH. |
| 14:13 |
RobbieF |
It's script-based. |
| 14:13 |
RobbieF |
I made it a web gui |
| 14:13 |
tenplus1 |
brb |
| 14:13 |
RobbieF |
this month I wrote offsite backups into the software. |
| 14:14 |
Mr_Pardison |
cool. |
| 14:19 |
tenplus1 |
handy feature ;) |
| 14:21 |
tenplus1 |
what's the overhead of running a nems setup ? |
| 14:28 |
Raven262 |
Calinou, really? |
| 14:28 |
Raven262 |
Well, I didn't really post it cause they are RPG-s, but because they are some older games. |
| 14:29 |
tenplus1 |
classic content :D |
| 14:29 |
* tenplus1 |
found a windows version of "Wizball" that's awesome (running through Wine 3.0 of course :) |
| 14:30 |
* Mr_Pardison |
takes the wine and drinks it |
| 14:30 |
Raven262 |
Its also fun reading how the elder scrolls series got dumber and dumber by each new game release. |
| 14:30 |
tenplus1 |
aww, they forced them out for cash |
| 14:30 |
* Raven262 |
installs a new wine then. |
| 14:31 |
Raven262 |
Mostly, but everything seems to go bad when a small company that makes nice games gets bought by a larger one. |
| 14:31 |
Raven262 |
(and everything goes to hell) |
| 14:31 |
tenplus1 |
yeah... Psygnosis was bought over by Sony and it went downhill from there too |
| 14:32 |
Raven262 |
But still, we've still got the old games to play them :D |
| 14:32 |
tenplus1 |
emulators to the ready! |
| 14:32 |
Raven262 |
I'm actually quite amazed at how good the wine works for me. |
| 14:33 |
tenplus1 |
ubu 18.04 alpha comes with the new 3.0 stable which I was surprised about |
| 14:33 |
Raven262 |
Oh, finally |
| 14:33 |
tenplus1 |
got steam for windows running and it works well |
| 14:34 |
Mr_Pardison |
nice. |
| 14:34 |
Raven262 |
lol, lisac did that once. |
| 14:34 |
tenplus1 |
some games I cant run on linux so wine handles those well enough :) |
| 14:36 |
tenplus1 |
although I DO wish that games companies would release for linux as well... |
| 14:36 |
Raven262 |
Yeah, its nice when they release something for linux. |
| 14:37 |
Raven262 |
New games can't run on wine here |
| 14:37 |
tenplus1 |
new games all seem to want DOTnet or something stupid to run them... |
| 14:37 |
Mr_Pardison |
so nice when they do release a game for linux. |
| 14:38 |
tenplus1 |
I installed "Shatter" and it wanted dotnet3.6 to which I cancelled it and it still ran |
| 14:38 |
Raven262 |
Like dotnet is the future |
| 14:38 |
tenplus1 |
why NEED something that isnt essential to the gameplay |
| 14:38 |
tenplus1 |
microsoft crap! |
| 14:38 |
Mr_Pardison |
ikr |
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RobbieF |
tenplus1 the overhead? Nothing. You just need a dedicated Raspberry Pi. |
| 14:39 |
RobbieF |
It becomes the server/appliance. |
| 14:39 |
RobbieF |
You can use it to monitor Minetest servers |
| 14:39 |
tenplus1 |
woudl be handy robbie :) dont think shinji woudl be up for it tho :D |
| 14:39 |
RobbieF |
:) |
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tenplus1 |
adding new farming changes is as good as it gets for now :D lolol |
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tenplus1 |
hi thomas |
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Mr_Pardison |
morning ThomasMonroe |
| 14:49 |
tenplus1 |
is anyone running 0.5.0 dev on their servers ? |
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* benrob0329 |
makes an appearance |
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benrob0329 |
Hey tenplus1, RobbieF, Mr_Pardison |
| 15:12 |
tenplus1 |
hi benrob |
| 15:12 |
benrob0329 |
I have decided...to learn python *croud gasps* |
| 15:13 |
Mr_Pardison |
hello |
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tenplus1 |
heh, you got a use for learning python ? |
| 15:13 |
* Mr_Pardison |
isn't part of that crowd |
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RobbieF |
hey benrob0329 |
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benrob0329 |
Lua just isnt general purpose enough for what I wabt to do |
| 15:14 |
benrob0329 |
The libraries are all odd or nonexistent |
| 15:15 |
tenplus1 |
yeah, in need of a good GUI library on all platforms for lua |
| 15:15 |
tenplus1 |
but python is that at leaast |
| 15:15 |
benrob0329 |
and a good http library for all platforms |
| 15:15 |
tenplus1 |
yeah... Deluge was a kewl torrent prog made in python, remember it well :D |
| 15:16 |
benrob0329 |
I mean we have curl but thats not for anything more than one time connections afaik |
| 15:17 |
tenplus1 |
kinda wish all the libs/progs using python2 would hurry up and be upgraded to 3.x... |
| 15:18 |
benrob0329 |
tenplus1: most of them have afaik |
| 15:19 |
benrob0329 |
But the best GUI for lua is LGI |
| 15:19 |
tenplus1 |
sad to say but GIMP still depends on python2.... |
| 15:19 |
benrob0329 |
Which is GoObject, and the Gnome devs are about as far from considerate as I can think of |
| 15:20 |
tenplus1 |
lua should have LGI packaged and ready on all platforms as standard, a gui is needed in any base language these days |
| 15:20 |
benrob0329 |
I think having a good gui is more important than packaging it by default |
| 15:20 |
benrob0329 |
Python has PyQT and Kivy for example |
| 15:21 |
tenplus1 |
lua has none in the repo's, gotta compile it all yourself |
| 15:21 |
tenplus1 |
should be a base lib |
| 15:22 |
benrob0329 |
But for comparison between Lua and Python: https://gitlab.com/snippets/1697751 |
| 15:23 |
benrob0329 |
Very small program, butit strikes me how much cleaner the python is |
| 15:24 |
sfan5 |
<benrob0329> I mean we have curl but thats not for anything more than one time connections afaik |
| 15:24 |
sfan5 |
wrong |
| 15:24 |
tenplus1 |
hi sfan |
| 15:24 |
sfan5 |
unlike many other http libraries, curl actually supports keeping connections alive for further requests |
| 15:24 |
benrob0329 |
sfan5: oh cool, did not know that |
| 15:24 |
sfan5 |
curl does pretty much everything you might need in a http library |
| 15:25 |
sfan5 |
not sure what kind of "good http library" you're looking for... |
| 15:25 |
benrob0329 |
Something better than LuaSocket and more cross platform than LuaHTTP |
| 15:26 |
tenplus1 |
isnt python a LOT bigger than lua though |
| 15:26 |
benrob0329 |
Or I was, I'm not continuing down the general purpose Lua path |
| 15:27 |
sfan5 |
lua is indeed not good for general purpose appliations |
| 15:27 |
benrob0329 |
tenplus1: yes, but it has a lot more with it |
| 15:28 |
tenplus1 |
true |
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tenplus1 |
hi CBugDCoder |
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CBugDCoder |
hi ten |
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tenplus1 |
hi astorian |
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IhrFussel |
Please can someone help? My server crashes sometimes a lot of times cause of this: 2018-02-08 17:10:26: ERROR[Main]: ServerError: AsyncErr: ServerThread::run Lua: Runtime error from mod 'stamina' in callback luaentity_Step(): Runtime error from mod 'stamina' in callback on_player_hpchange(): ...t/worlds/oldserver/worldmods/3d_armor/3d_armor/armor.lua:557: attempt to ind |
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IhrFussel |
2018-02-08 17:10:26: ERROR[Main]: x a nil value |
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tenplus1 |
which stamina mod are you using, the one from minetest-mods or my fork ? |
| 16:22 |
IhrFussel |
armor.lua:557 is "if minetest.registered_items[item].description then" |
| 16:23 |
IhrFussel |
The one from minetest-mods I think ... but stamina isn't causing it I think since the error line is in armor.lua |
| 16:24 |
sfan5 |
classic mistake |
| 16:24 |
sfan5 |
items can be undefined |
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sfan5 |
needs to be "if minetest.registered_items[item].description and minetest.registered_items[item].description then" |
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tenplus1 |
yuyp |
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IhrFussel |
You mean one time without .description? |
| 16:25 |
sfan5 |
yes |
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sfan5 |
sorry, my mistake |
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atorian37 |
hi tenplus1 |
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tenplus1 |
wb atorian |
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atorian37 |
sorry got disc |
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IhrFussel |
sfan5, so it's likely caused by an armor piece that got removed? |
| 16:26 |
sfan5 |
possible |
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tenplus1 |
add pull so it gets fixed fussel |
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tenplus1 |
wb |
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ThomasMonroe |
thanks tenplus1 |
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tenplus1 |
laters all |
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tenplus1 |
o/ |
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benrob0329 |
ghosting really is quite handy for when you have multiple devices |
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Mr_Pardison |
ah, the luxury of having multiple devices. |
| 17:38 |
Mr_Pardison |
I wouldn't know it. |
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Mr_Pardison |
:P |
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red-001 |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
red-001: Sci-Fi Short Film - "Hyper-Reality" presented by DUST - YouTube |
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Krock |
o/ |
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Megaf |
Hi Krock |
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Krock |
hi Megaf |
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twoelk |
o/ |
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Megaf |
!server Megaf Test |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server ARM TEST v4 0.4.17 | 163.172.154.119:30003 | Clients: 0/20, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.17-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 12ms |
| 17:56 |
twoelk |
has anybody ever used wxlua? is it any good? |
| 17:56 |
Megaf |
Anyone interested in helping testing a server running on a dedicated ARM server? |
| 17:57 |
Megaf |
twoelk: what is it for? |
| 17:58 |
twoelk |
http://wxlua.sourceforge.net/ can run standalone lua scripts |
| 17:58 |
twoelk |
sort of |
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Sokomine |
tenplus1: pinapple juice sounds great :-) please keep a glass for me |
| 17:59 |
Megaf |
Somebody had a board that could run lua via hardware |
| 17:59 |
twoelk |
wxLua homepage says: wrapper around the wxWidgets cross-platform C++ GUI library |
| 18:00 |
* twoelk |
used to eat fresh pineapple until the mouth bleeded as kid |
| 18:00 |
* twoelk |
spent part of his childhood near pineapple fields |
| 18:00 |
Megaf |
oh |
| 18:01 |
Megaf |
I used to lots of some sort of berry |
| 18:01 |
benrob0329 |
twoelk: looked abandoned last I checked |
| 18:01 |
Megaf |
mulberry |
| 18:02 |
twoelk |
mango, rambutan, pineapple, bananas the fruit diet I grew up on |
| 18:02 |
Megaf |
can't find mulberry in ireland tho |
| 18:02 |
Megaf |
I grow up with mulberries, bananas, apples and water melons |
| 18:03 |
twoelk |
abandoned , yeah, could well be |
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Mr_Pardison |
mm..... mango. |
| 18:03 |
twoelk |
oh, water melons too of course |
| 18:03 |
Megaf |
[02:37:48] <wilkgr> Today, I have two devices on my desk that support Lua scripting |
| 18:03 |
Megaf |
[02:38:16] <wilkgr> (TI-Nspire and ESP8266) |
| 18:03 |
Megaf |
[02:38:50] <wilkgr> not to mention how many games that I play that have Lua scripting interfaces |
| 18:03 |
Megaf |
There ^ |
| 18:03 |
Megaf |
Lua via hardware |
| 18:03 |
Megaf |
Solution for all Minetest performance problems |
| 18:03 |
Megaf |
we just need to find a way of interfacing that thing |
| 18:04 |
twoelk |
wxlua looked sort of promissing :-( |
| 18:05 |
benrob0329 |
twoelk: iup or lgi are your best bets |
| 18:05 |
benrob0329 |
I just did this research :PP |
| 18:06 |
twoelk |
binding to [GObject based] libraries? can't parse |
| 18:06 |
Megaf |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NodeMCU |
| 18:06 |
Megaf |
!title |
| 18:06 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: NodeMCU - Wikipedia |
| 18:06 |
Megaf |
http://www.nodemcu.com/ |
| 18:06 |
Megaf |
!title |
| 18:06 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: NodeMcu.com |
| 18:07 |
Megaf |
Lua based firmware and microcontroller |
| 18:07 |
twoelk |
[Crazy Eddy's GUI system] sounds like an interesting name |
| 18:07 |
* twoelk |
is browsing http://lua-users.org/wiki/GraphicalUserInterfaceToolkits |
| 18:08 |
benrob0329 |
twoelk: I couldn't find any recent documentation on CEGUI's lua interface |
| 18:08 |
benrob0329 |
there are some bindings to qt4, if you don't mind outdated bindings |
| 18:09 |
benrob0329 |
or Love2D + Nuklear (or similar) |
| 18:09 |
twoelk |
CEGUI? - reminds me somehow of a name in a comic by Moebius |
| 18:09 |
benrob0329 |
but the Gui world for Lua is really sparse |
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benrob0329 |
twoelk: Crazy Eddy's GUI |
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twoelk |
LOL |
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twoelk |
hm , CEGUI supports Irrlicht |
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| 18:51 |
Mr_Pardison |
quick question. |
| 18:51 |
Mr_Pardison |
what's the range of attack for a mobile player? |
| 18:52 |
Mr_Pardison |
as in how far away can they attack someone from where they are. |
| 18:55 |
sfan5 |
however far the item range is set for the hand item |
| 18:55 |
sfan5 |
(only applies if anticheat is enabled) |
| 18:55 |
Mr_Pardison |
for the default diamond sword. |
| 18:58 |
Krock |
that's 4 by default AFAIK |
| 18:58 |
Mr_Pardison |
by default. |
| 18:59 |
Mr_Pardison |
but one player said that they can hit things from 50 nodes away. |
| 18:59 |
Krock |
there was a bug recently that caused an unlimited interact distance in the 3rd person perspective |
| 18:59 |
Mr_Pardison |
jeez. |
| 18:59 |
Wayward_One |
on android 0.4.16 there's a bug that lets you interact very far away, but that's been fixed in 0.5.0-dev |
| 18:59 |
Krock |
where recently = a few months ago |
| 18:59 |
sfan5 |
that bug is client-side so it doesn't really matter |
| 18:59 |
Wayward_One |
not just third person in my experience |
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IhrFussel |
Guys it still happens sometimes that the protections don't load after a restart...no error from io.open() it seems |
| 19:35 |
IhrFussel |
Maybe the error happens in minetest.deserialize()...will add a log to that |
| 19:37 |
red-001 |
IhrFussel, you could try the patch I made |
| 19:38 |
IhrFussel |
red-001, post link again please |
| 19:45 |
red-001 |
https://github.com/ShadowNinja/areas/pull/28 |
| 19:47 |
Fixer |
mmmmm, moebious |
| 19:48 |
Megaf |
twoelk: sofar: gentlemen. I could do with a piece of advice. |
| 19:49 |
Mr_Pardison |
what? Megaf asking for advice? |
| 19:49 |
Megaf |
So, I am applying for this job as IT/Network Manager for this college. |
| 19:49 |
Megaf |
I am trying to find things that are wrong, things that could be improved and how to fix and improve things |
| 19:49 |
Megaf |
as well implementing new stuff |
| 19:50 |
Megaf |
One of the thing I cam up with is using user based auth for the wifi |
| 19:50 |
Megaf |
instead of a single password for everything |
| 19:50 |
Megaf |
and separating access in students, staff and guests |
| 19:51 |
Megaf |
each with a proper access rights to the interwebs |
| 19:51 |
Mr_Pardison |
different networks for each or just a single network? |
| 19:51 |
Megaf |
also, I would implement a local web proxy to cache the most accessed website |
| 19:51 |
twoelk |
hehe, so they will always need you as rights-manager |
| 19:51 |
Mr_Pardison |
job security! |
| 19:51 |
Megaf |
staff will be automatically in a VPN once they login |
| 19:52 |
Megaf |
student will have optional web proxy and a not so strict firewall rules |
| 19:52 |
Megaf |
guests would have very strict firewall rules and enfornced proxy |
| 19:52 |
twoelk |
several networks might help against single point of failure scenarios |
| 19:52 |
red-001 |
wouldn't almost every site using https mess up that cache idea? |
| 19:53 |
Megaf |
twoelk: that is interesting |
| 19:53 |
Megaf |
red-001: nope |
| 19:53 |
Mr_Pardison |
Megaf: give me a sec to pull up the nets we have here at school. |
| 19:53 |
Megaf |
twoelk:one thing that I was thinking was making IP address follow the user, not sure if that would be good |
| 19:54 |
Megaf |
and IP leases would be 24 hours long |
| 19:54 |
Megaf |
I'd implement redundancy in the firewal too |
| 19:54 |
twoelk |
IP-address as personal id? |
| 19:54 |
Megaf |
kinda |
| 19:54 |
twoelk |
you would need some central handler |
| 19:54 |
Megaf |
or maybe just for staff |
| 19:54 |
Megaf |
I'm looking at things like RADIUS |
| 19:54 |
Mr_Pardison |
6 different networks but the most used ones are the -student and the locked one for staff. Includes guest network (requires a login password to use). |
| 19:55 |
Megaf |
tho I don't quite like it's security |
| 19:55 |
Megaf |
and with WPA2 once you are in you can sniff everything |
| 19:55 |
Megaf |
same thing for cable, once you plug in you can sniff |
| 19:56 |
Megaf |
so one solution for this would be a WPS2 network, with captive portal, that would then put people in a VPN |
| 19:56 |
Megaf |
I'm just not quite sure how to implement that |
| 19:56 |
Megaf |
opinions so far? |
| 19:57 |
Megaf |
*I know it's complicated. hence the need for good documentation and the need to keep be employed once hired :P |
| 19:57 |
Mr_Pardison |
captive portal is what is used for the guest wifi network. |
| 19:57 |
Mr_Pardison |
for the student one, you have to have a school email address to be able to use it. |
| 19:58 |
Megaf |
above I saud WPS, I mean WPA |
| 19:58 |
Megaf |
Mr_Pardison: problem is, user based auth is either WPA or WEP |
| 19:58 |
Megaf |
extremely unsafe |
| 19:58 |
red-001 |
on the topic of WPA2 how was that protocol weakness in it fixed without writing a new standard? |
| 19:58 |
Mr_Pardison |
ik. |
| 19:59 |
Mr_Pardison |
that's the problem I have with it. |
| 19:59 |
Megaf |
check to security protocol in use |
| 19:59 |
Megaf |
the* |
| 20:00 |
Megaf |
I have around 1:30 hours of attention remaining, I want to use it to come up with ideas and put in the document |
| 20:00 |
Megaf |
ah, also I'd like to implement a local software repositorio for the software we use that is freely available on the internet |
| 20:00 |
Mr_Pardison |
and I was going to install wireshark on my computer and see if I can get access to the staff network and then show them how vulnerable it is. |
| 20:00 |
Megaf |
Mr_Pardison: spoof you MAC before that |
| 20:01 |
Megaf |
or buy a cheepo wifi nic |
| 20:01 |
Mr_Pardison |
well, duh. |
| 20:01 |
sfan5 |
red-001: it was just an implementation issue afaik |
| 20:02 |
Megaf |
about the local software repo, then things like wireshark, eclipse, dia, libreoffice, windows trials and some linux distros would all be in a local server, we wouldnt saturate the network |
| 20:02 |
Megaf |
I mean, the external link |
| 20:02 |
Megaf |
their pipe is not that big |
| 20:02 |
red-001 |
sfan5, funny sort of implementation issue then if literally every implementation of WPA had it |
| 20:03 |
Megaf |
twoelk: sofar: and the holy grail I think would be implementing a MESH network and voluntary p2p storage. Tho that would be more complicated I think |
| 20:03 |
red-001 |
I guess no-one thought about it but still |
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Megaf |
welcome back CBugDCoder |
| 20:05 |
CBugDCoder |
thx Megaf |
| 20:05 |
Megaf |
to control all that I'd use something like pfSense, there's plenty of nice plugins for it |
| 20:06 |
Megaf |
tho myself I rather use something Debian based, custom solution by myself with a custom build hardware |
| 20:06 |
Megaf |
currently they have one AP per classroom |
| 20:06 |
Megaf |
it's a small building, I recon I could use one AP per floor with a powerful omni directional antenna |
| 20:07 |
Megaf |
and 1 watt radios |
| 20:07 |
Megaf |
I'd be still using 802.11b since it works well and it's very well supported by several devices |
| 20:07 |
Megaf |
and maybe even 802.11a, because 5 GHz |
| 20:08 |
Megaf |
All sharing same SSID for easy migration between APs |
| 20:08 |
twoelk |
I have a portableapps.com repo on the company server and smaller more specific ones on local machines. makes updating and moving things around super easy |
| 20:08 |
Megaf |
ok, one hour left of attention, better put some stuff on paper |
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* Mr_Pardison |
leaves this to twoelk |
| 20:08 |
Megaf |
for public software repo I most likely would use something distributed |
| 20:09 |
Mr_Pardison |
I'm out of my depth with this one. |
| 20:09 |
Megaf |
like, one file server per floor with a 10 gpbs link to the APs |
| 20:09 |
twoelk |
I point the local update requests of paf to may server repo so that they can't download wildly |
| 20:09 |
Megaf |
Mr_Pardison: now we are leaving knowledge territory and entering experience territory |
| 20:09 |
Mr_Pardison |
yup |
| 20:10 |
Megaf |
twoelk: well, I just want something like, students and staff type http://collegename.com/Software_Repo |
| 20:10 |
Megaf |
and then they can just download stuff |
| 20:11 |
Megaf |
I thought about using Torrent for that, because P2P and would remove local from teh servers, tho I dont want the torrent to lean into the web |
| 20:11 |
Megaf |
I mean, it wouldnt be a problem with LibreOffice, Dia and Eclipse |
| 20:11 |
Megaf |
but what about Windows ISOs? |
| 20:12 |
* Megaf |
looks at Shara |
| 20:12 |
Megaf |
Not sure whoelse here with experience in IT infrastructure |
| 20:15 |
Calinou |
<Mr_Pardison> captive portal is what is used for the guest wifi network. |
| 20:15 |
Calinou |
some university networks (like eduroam) have an option to not use a captive portal, but rather a proper authentication protocol |
| 20:15 |
Calinou |
so you enter username/password in your OS directly |
| 20:15 |
Calinou |
this is supported on all OSes out t here |
| 20:15 |
Calinou |
there* |
| 20:15 |
sofar |
Megaf: 802.1x |
| 20:16 |
Calinou |
I don't remember how it's called |
| 20:16 |
Mr_Pardison |
Calinou: ik that since that's what the guest network page says right on it (Captive Portal Authorization) |
| 20:16 |
Calinou |
(even though I'm using it at my current university) |
| 20:16 |
twoelk |
win-iso (plural)? sounds like some traffic |
| 20:17 |
Calinou |
you can't distribute Windows ISOs legally |
| 20:17 |
Calinou |
what kind of university requires downloading Windows ISOs from their network? :P |
| 20:18 |
Megaf |
[20:15:32] <Calinou> some university networks (like eduroam) have an option to not use a captive portal, but rather a proper authentication protocol |
| 20:18 |
Megaf |
[20:15:40] <Calinou> so you enter username/password in your OS directly |
| 20:18 |
Megaf |
that what I want |
| 20:18 |
Megaf |
tho I'm not conviced about the safety of that |
| 20:18 |
Megaf |
all students and staff already have an UID and PSW |
| 20:19 |
Calinou |
why would it be less safe? eduroam seems to be working fine |
| 20:19 |
Megaf |
Calinou: sometimes we deploys windows server VMs to learn windows server... |
| 20:19 |
Megaf |
for example |
| 20:19 |
Calinou |
yeah, I see |
| 20:19 |
Calinou |
just tell students to get ISOs at home :P |
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* Calinou |
hides |
| 20:19 |
Calinou |
I have tons of ISOs on my NAS due to this |
| 20:19 |
Megaf |
sofar: is 802.1x widely supported? |
| 20:20 |
Megaf |
like Android 4.x, iOS 4.x, Windows XP, Kernel 3.x |
| 20:20 |
Megaf |
Calinou: that's how it works currently |
| 20:20 |
Calinou |
not sure about Windows XP, but it's EOL for 4 years now. |
| 20:20 |
Calinou |
upgrade your mind :-)= |
| 20:20 |
Calinou |
-= |
| 20:21 |
Megaf |
Anyway, droid 4.x and iOS 4.x still common |
| 20:21 |
Megaf |
well, apple is good at killing old IOSs |
| 20:21 |
Mr_Pardison |
ping me on another irc channel if something comes up that I might like |
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Megaf |
Calinou: is eduroam free/open? |
| 20:32 |
Megaf |
Calinou: sofar: twoelk: Other thing that I've been thinking is caching main website, moodle and other essential websites locally and delivering a local version of it |
| 20:32 |
Megaf |
basically a reverse proxy, yes |
| 20:33 |
Calinou |
no idea |
| 20:33 |
Calinou |
iOS 4.x is common? eh… |
| 20:33 |
Calinou |
most users run the latest version, or N-1 version |
| 20:33 |
Calinou |
Apple users are generally good on staying up-to-date |
| 20:33 |
Calinou |
(with rare exceptions) |
| 20:34 |
Calinou |
plus, Apple supports its devices for a long time, unlike Android OEMs |
| 20:34 |
roben1430 |
>just installed lineageOS on s5 because OEM no longer supports device |
| 20:35 |
Megaf |
LeneageOS community is a pain in the neck |
| 20:35 |
Megaf |
very unfriendly |
| 20:35 |
Megaf |
and they don't give a flying s*** for older devices |
| 20:35 |
Megaf |
I tried |
| 20:37 |
Megaf |
https://www.networkworld.com/article/2332876/lan-wan/vendors-hit-the-802-1x-mark-for-access--but-security-holes-remain.html |
| 20:37 |
Megaf |
!title |
| 20:37 |
Megaf |
from 2004 |
| 20:37 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Vendors hit the 802.1X mark for access, but security holes remain | Network World |
| 20:37 |
Megaf |
not safe |
| 20:37 |
paramat |
Megaf too much offtopic today, please could you use a separate channel for long discussions about job stuff? :] |
| 20:38 |
Megaf |
paramat: Not sure. |
| 20:39 |
sfan5 |
go to #minetest |
| 20:39 |
* Megaf |
sees -Hub as a community of people with a common interest in Minetest. People that are happy in helping each other succeed |
| 20:39 |
paramat |
see channel rules |
| 20:39 |
Megaf |
paramat: if you op me I will kick you. |
| 20:39 |
sfan5 |
it doesn't matter what you see it has, "keep offtopic short" is a rule |
| 20:39 |
sfan5 |
s/has/as/ |
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* Megaf |
notice his medication is begining to wear of as he gets more impulsive again |
| 20:40 |
Megaf |
wear down? |
| 20:40 |
paramat |
i am op and will kick you :] |
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paramat |
this amount of offtopic is too much for #minetest also, new channel please |
| 20:41 |
paramat |
it's ok to ask around here and invite others to advise elsewhere |
| 20:41 |
Megaf |
paramat: I will be nice to you because you said please :P Thanks |
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sfan5 |
paramat: while that's true, I see no harm in applying a more "forgiving" interpretation of the rules in #minetest |
| 20:43 |
sfan5 |
i'm missing the correct adjective here... |
| 20:43 |
Calinou |
this channel isn't excessively busy |
| 20:43 |
paramat |
i am being forgiving |
| 20:43 |
ssieb |
eduroam is using WPA2-Enterprise, not 802.11x |
| 20:43 |
paramat |
Calinou that's not the point |
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ssieb |
Megaf: I really hope you weren't serious about 802.11b! |
| 20:45 |
Calinou |
802.11ac is where it's at |
| 20:45 |
Calinou |
our university has it :) |
| 20:45 |
paramat |
take it to a dedicated channel please |
| 20:45 |
sfan5 |
like #minetest |
| 20:46 |
Megaf |
Calinou, sfan5, sofar, #Minetest-Chat please if you want to keep talking about IT |
| 20:46 |
sfan5 |
(I personally have no problem with excessive offtopic in #minetest as long as it's not hindering talk about the primary objective) |
| 20:46 |
paramat |
excessive offtopic is not allowed in minetest |
| 20:46 |
paramat |
that's a rule |
| 20:46 |
sfan5 |
correct |
| 20:47 |
sfan5 |
but like I said there's no problem with being less strict on that (in #minetest, not here) |
| 20:47 |
paramat |
there is somewhat, because we need to monitor it for MT stuff |
| 20:48 |
paramat |
that channel is not 'offtopic'. maybe someone can start a MT offtopic channel? |
| 20:51 |
Shara |
There's already a "chat" channel |
| 20:51 |
Shara |
Though somewhat unofficial |
| 20:51 |
paramat |
good :] |
| 20:52 |
paramat |
oh just saw it went there, thank you all |
| 21:11 |
Megaf |
ok, paramat left. |
| 21:11 |
Megaf |
so, 802.1x |
| 21:11 |
Megaf |
xP |
| 21:12 |
* Megaf |
hides and almost dies laughing |
| 21:13 |
Megaf |
ssieb: ^ |
| 21:15 |
ssieb |
:-P |
| 21:20 |
Shara |
Megaf: Stop being a child :P |
| 21:20 |
Megaf |
lmao |
| 21:20 |
Megaf |
Anyway! |
| 21:21 |
sofar |
Megaf: btw as to recommendations, I would say that without in-depth knowledge of topography, issues and usage you can only make random stabs at improvements |
| 21:21 |
Megaf |
So, Minetest, I'm testing this dedicated ARM server. Minetest is running jsut great |
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Megaf |
[21:27:34] * Nick _ChanServ_ contains illegal characters |
| 21:28 |
Megaf |
Sorry, wrong channel |
| 21:30 |
Fuchs |
*Serv* is RESVd for the very reasons that people don't get stupid ideas |
| 21:30 |
Fuchs |
and I highly recommend not trying around with it :) |
| 21:31 |
Megaf |
no need to offend alright, I have feelings |
| 21:31 |
Shara |
Hi Fuchs |
| 21:32 |
Fuchs |
hi :) |
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benrob0329 |
Megaf: I find that hard to believe when my tablet from 2012 has official images |
| 21:34 |
benrob0329 |
and hey we're back |
| 21:35 |
Megaf |
:) |
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| 21:48 |
Megaf |
why wouldnt it? |
| 21:48 |
Megaf |
its Android |
| 21:51 |
twoelk |
minetest on android does not always behave as intended so ... |
| 21:52 |
Megaf |
correction |
| 21:52 |
Megaf |
minetest doesnt always behave as intended |
| 21:52 |
twoelk |
dunno wether mt speaks every android dialect |
| 21:54 |
Wayward_One |
i've run mt on about 5 different types/forks of android so far |
| 21:55 |
twoelk |
write in the wiki about it -> could be of interest for others :-P |
| 21:57 |
twoelk |
I've tried on two regular android versions, one failed and the other kept freezing - but they where old crappy devices anyways |
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twoelk |
I once hooked a android device to a tv set and as the touchscreen was out of reach ran minetest navigating with wifi devices - kinda' not worked well - was fun though |
| 22:05 |
Wayward_One |
nice |
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Fixer |
12309 in windows, SAD! |
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rubenwardy |
My ad views on my pages have increased by 30% in the last month, but my as revenue has.halved |
| 22:53 |
rubenwardy |
Damnit Google |
| 22:57 |
xerox123_ |
:( |
| 22:57 |
xerox123_ |
Poor ruben |
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Fixer |
rubenwardy: heheh |
