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Fixer |
thaumcraft 6 for 1.10.2 o_____o |
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Fixer |
jetpacks are awesome, i have no idea why they are not popular in mt |
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* Megaf |
is here |
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Megaf |
Shara: you there? |
| 04:14 |
Shara |
Maybe |
| 04:15 |
Megaf |
They are attacking my server.. |
| 04:15 |
Shara |
Almost asleep |
| 04:15 |
Megaf |
100+ MB in ~hour... |
| 04:15 |
Shara |
Got an IP address? |
| 04:15 |
Shara |
Send to me if so please |
| 04:15 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2018-01-31 04:13:46: [Server] Megaf bans 104.250.138.199|Paramat. |
| 04:15 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2018-01-31 04:13:47: [Server] Paramat leaves game. List of players: |
| 04:15 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2018-01-31 04:13:48: [Server] howdy leaves game. List of players: |
| 04:15 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2018-01-31 04:13:49: [Server] whoanelly leaves game. List of players: |
| 04:15 |
Shara |
They were faking dev names on Minetest France as well |
| 04:17 |
Megaf |
we really need the global ban now |
| 04:17 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2018-01-31 01:18:56: [Server] Jordach [104.250.138.199] joins game. |
| 04:17 |
Shara |
Just ban the IP? |
| 04:18 |
Megaf |
many different IPs |
| 04:18 |
Shara |
Ahh, that was earlier, sorry |
| 04:18 |
Megaf |
and IP is banned |
| 04:18 |
Megaf |
1x0.250.xxx.xxx |
| 04:20 |
Megaf |
2018-01-31 02:10:08: ACTION[Server]: Server: shivajiva tried to join from 104.250.138.199, but there are already max_users=4 players. |
| 04:20 |
Megaf |
lol |
| 04:20 |
Megaf |
shivajiva: that was not you, was it? |
| 04:20 |
Shara |
It was not shivajiva |
| 04:22 |
Megaf |
folks, ban these IPs |
| 04:22 |
Megaf |
107.167.111.69 |
| 04:22 |
Megaf |
104.250.138.199 |
| 04:22 |
Megaf |
109.74.204.217 |
| 04:24 |
Megaf |
I noticed the attack because lots of |
| 04:24 |
Megaf |
<WARNING> 2018-01-31 04:04:20: [Server] ServerEnv: Trying to store id = 0 statically but block (-6,1,-14) already contains 64 objects. |
| 04:25 |
Megaf |
It's amazing how vulnerable we are |
| 04:27 |
Megaf |
yep, my map got at least 200 MB larger with this attack |
| 04:27 |
Megaf |
which is amazing, since new players dont have interact nor fast |
| 04:27 |
Megaf |
Issued command: /shutdown |
| 04:27 |
Megaf |
End log output over terminal (no stdout/stderr backlog during that) |
| 04:27 |
Megaf |
======================== |
| 04:27 |
Megaf |
minetest Platinum:~/MegafServer/BinMegafServer$ |
| 04:27 |
Megaf |
and it actually crashed on shutdown |
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* Megaf |
feels a wild benrob might be coming soon |
| 04:52 |
Megaf |
Maybe not |
| 05:04 |
Megaf |
welp, good night |
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nerzhul |
!help |
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MinetestBot |
https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md |
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nerzhul |
!plop |
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IhrFussel |
I had another pretty bug size jump at night Di 30. Jan 22:17:46 CET 2018 -> 18281 MB |
| 13:24 |
IhrFussel |
Di 30. Jan 22:47:46 CET 2018 -> 18302 MB |
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IhrFussel |
big* |
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IhrFussel |
I think I will create backups more often now... |
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nerzhul |
18GB is huge, my postgresql db with all world generated is 14GB |
| 14:08 |
Megaf |
Hi all |
| 14:08 |
Mr-Pardison |
hi |
| 14:09 |
Megaf |
IhrFussel: Remember the guy floating around and I told you to not worry about? |
| 14:09 |
Megaf |
IhrFussel: There is very strong possibility I was totally mistaken on that one and that was an attack. Attack that is inflating map sizes |
| 14:10 |
Megaf |
IhrFussel: ban the IPs ASAP |
| 14:10 |
Megaf |
[04:22:47] <Megaf> folks, ban these IPs |
| 14:10 |
Megaf |
[04:22:49] <Megaf> 107.167.111.69 |
| 14:10 |
Megaf |
[04:22:49] <Megaf> 104.250.138.199 |
| 14:10 |
Megaf |
[04:22:49] <Megaf> 109.74.204.217 |
| 14:11 |
Megaf |
Attack bots that inflate maps ^ |
| 14:11 |
Megaf |
VanessaE: |
| 14:11 |
Megaf |
IhrFussel: |
| 14:11 |
ThomasMonroe |
Megaf.... |
| 14:11 |
ThomasMonroe |
they were on my server too |
| 14:12 |
Megaf |
ThomasMonroe: just ban IP |
| 14:12 |
ThomasMonroe |
what is the cmd for that again XD |
| 14:12 |
ThomasMonroe |
xban? |
| 14:13 |
Mr-Pardison |
given this info, I think that in the event that these IP's come up, just ban them since they have a pattern of malicious attacks. |
| 14:13 |
Mr-Pardison |
or go one step further and just ban them now. |
| 14:13 |
Megaf |
if they are online a /ban Nick to ban the IP |
| 14:13 |
ThomasMonroe |
they are not online |
| 14:14 |
Megaf |
I dont know how to use xban to ban IP |
| 14:14 |
Megaf |
ThomasMonroe: /help xban maybe? |
| 14:15 |
ThomasMonroe |
uggghhh I need names of the players ;-; |
| 14:16 |
Megaf |
ThomasMonroe: press F10 and scroll and see their names |
| 14:16 |
Megaf |
and ban |
| 14:16 |
ThomasMonroe |
I'm not in-game XD |
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| 14:18 |
Megaf |
PLAYER NAMES TO BAN FROM YOUR SERVER ASAP megamaniac whoanelly howdy Jordach minetella minesoup sodamage Paramat paulm sallee |
| 14:18 |
sfan5 |
that's pointless, names can change |
| 14:18 |
sfan5 |
and i would not suggest banning Jordach |
| 14:18 |
IhrFussel |
Simple linux loop to check multiple suspicious IPs at once: for ip in $(cat ips.txt); do grep -Ec "$ip" debug.txt; done ... paste all the IPs that are getting reported into ips.txt and run the loop |
| 14:18 |
Megaf |
IPS TO BAN FROM YOUR SERVER ASAP 107.167.111.69 104.250.138.199109.74.204.217 |
| 14:18 |
Megaf |
sfan5: Yes, but they still tried many times with the same nick |
| 14:19 |
sfan5 |
IhrFussel: should be grep -Fc |
| 14:19 |
Megaf |
lowering the max players are removing fast from default privs help mitigate the attack I'd say |
| 14:35 |
* Megaf |
closes IRC |
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| 15:29 |
Megaf |
Well, either the attacks stopped or my mitigations worked |
| 15:29 |
Megaf |
I can't detect any other attempt of attack |
| 15:30 |
Mr-Pardison |
I'd hope it was the former but the latter is nice as well. |
| 15:31 |
Megaf |
Tho these |
| 15:31 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2018-01-31 08:40:52: [Server] Server: User nhat at 116.118.18.167 supplied wrong password (auth mechanism: SRP). |
| 15:31 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2018-01-31 08:54:34: [Server] Server: User hzhdhd at 37.112.43.167 supplied wrong password (auth mechanism: SRP) |
| 15:31 |
Megaf |
are suspicius |
| 15:32 |
Megaf |
red-001: if you want to have some fun tracing IPs http://paste.debian.net/plainh/905bf7b3 |
| 15:32 |
Megaf |
that's a non public paste that will self destruct in 24 hours |
| 15:33 |
red-001 |
Megaf, looks like I used a poor datasource trying to get a better one |
| 15:33 |
paramat |
i'll eat the paste in 24 hours |
| 15:33 |
ThomasMonroe |
lol |
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| 15:38 |
Megaf |
check 107.167.111.69 if you didn't already |
| 15:39 |
redblade7 |
what's going on now? |
| 15:39 |
redblade7 |
something i should be concerned with? |
| 15:39 |
Megaf |
only if you are a server admin |
| 15:40 |
red-001 |
redblade7, same old it seems |
| 15:40 |
redblade7 |
i do see a lot of "Name123" users lately, many if not most of whom "time out" shortly, but to my knowledge those are fake google play clients where people dont even know their own name, right? |
| 15:40 |
redblade7 |
i am, i run three |
| 15:41 |
Megaf |
redblade7: There's a new attack happening that inflates map size |
| 15:41 |
Megaf |
be aware of 10x.xxx.xxx.xxx IPs |
| 15:41 |
Megaf |
and lowercase nicks |
| 15:41 |
Megaf |
and MT people nicks |
| 15:41 |
redblade7 |
lowercase nicks? |
| 15:41 |
red-001 |
thats like a decent precentage of the internet lol |
| 15:41 |
redblade7 |
no these people always begin in an uppercase letter |
| 15:42 |
redblade7 |
it's not them? |
| 15:42 |
redblade7 |
oh wait |
| 15:42 |
Megaf |
really, if a nick is all lowercase, it doesnt get interact on my server |
| 15:42 |
* rubenwardy |
cries |
| 15:42 |
* red-001 |
cries |
| 15:42 |
* Fuchs |
comforthugs rubenwardy |
| 15:42 |
Megaf |
if you cant even put an upper case in your nick, you will not want to mine, and will be askng for stuff the whole time |
| 15:42 |
* sfan5 |
thinks |
| 15:42 |
redblade7 |
there was an instance where a player i banned for impersonating people, used "VanessaE" and I got a hold of her here and asked her to register |
| 15:43 |
Megaf |
if you use the default numbers in clone clients, than is even worst |
| 15:43 |
Megaf |
14:18 <Megaf> IPS TO BAN FROM YOUR SERVER ASAP 107.167.111.69 104.250.138.199109.74.204.217 |
| 15:43 |
Megaf |
14:18 <Megaf> PLAYER NAMES TO BAN FROM YOUR SERVER ASAP megamaniac whoanelly howdy Jordach minetella minesoup sodamage Paramat paulm sallee |
| 15:43 |
Megaf |
redblade7: ^ |
| 15:43 |
Fixer |
IhrFussel: "by simple walking i've achieved 2.5mb/min map growth" |
| 15:43 |
rubenwardy |
bit prejudiced really |
| 15:43 |
redblade7 |
Paramat? wtf |
| 15:43 |
redblade7 |
is that a mistake? |
| 15:44 |
Megaf |
Paramat, Jordach, shivajiva, are some of the nicks been used by attackers redblade7 |
| 15:44 |
sfan5 |
<sfan5> that's pointless, names can change |
| 15:44 |
Megaf |
sorry for highlight folks |
| 15:45 |
Megaf |
sfan5: sorry man, but I can see things other people can't, I can't explain, I just see patterns |
| 15:45 |
Fixer |
A L S O, YOU ARE DOING IT TOTALLY WRONG, instead, finish and merge https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/6219 (aka server side movement) |
| 15:45 |
redblade7 |
are paramat and jordach using different names now? |
| 15:45 |
sfan5 |
Megaf: no it's not patterns, it's just stupid |
| 15:45 |
sfan5 |
banning names is p o i n t l e s s |
| 15:45 |
red-001 |
Megaf, just wait till they start trying to use my name |
| 15:46 |
redblade7 |
i use xban2, i dont want to ban the wrong people |
| 15:46 |
sfan5 |
ban the IPs in question, there's nothing else you need to do |
| 15:46 |
red-001 |
sfan5, they will just get new ips |
| 15:47 |
redblade7 |
ok |
| 15:47 |
sfan5 |
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| 15:47 |
red-001 |
ban the whole ip ranges for the providers they use |
| 15:47 |
paramat |
heh most players and devs use all lowercase, see our IRC usernames |
| 15:47 |
redblade7 |
but then if paramat logs on he will be linked to the IPs permanently? |
| 15:48 |
sfan5 |
what? no |
| 15:48 |
* ThomasMonroe |
feels left out :P |
| 15:48 |
Megaf |
sfan5: and I'm banning new names AND IPs |
| 15:48 |
Megaf |
red-001: just join my server and register your nick... |
| 15:48 |
Megaf |
I have accounts for most of the known community already |
| 15:48 |
redblade7 |
i know the latest serveressentials (or xban2) rejects names with different cases than someone already existing |
| 15:49 |
redblade7 |
on the other hand |
| 15:49 |
redblade7 |
i can just drop packets from those ips using iptables |
| 15:49 |
redblade7 |
it'd be a lot easier |
| 15:49 |
redblade7 |
if you're saying it's a range |
| 15:50 |
Megaf |
my server is case sensitive and I like that |
| 15:50 |
paramat |
i wouldn't dare join a public server under my dev name, i would be lynched =D |
| 15:50 |
ThomasMonroe |
lol |
| 15:50 |
Megaf |
14:18 <Megaf> IPS TO BAN FROM YOUR SERVER ASAP 107.167.111.69 104.250.138.199109.74.204.217 |
| 15:50 |
Megaf |
paramat: lol, you will be always very welcomed on my servers... |
| 15:51 |
rubenwardy |
paramat: well, you'd be killed on my server |
| 15:51 |
rubenwardy |
but every player is so \o/ |
| 15:51 |
Megaf |
redblade7: does hat look like a range for ya ^ |
| 15:51 |
redblade7 |
i'm just trying to stay safe Megaf |
| 15:51 |
redblade7 |
i can just ban those |
| 15:51 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2018-01-31 15:38:28: [Server] DOIN [181.28.12.35] joins game. |
| 15:51 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2018-01-31 15:38:28: [Server] DOIN joins game. List of players: DOIN |
| 15:51 |
Megaf |
<ERROR> 2018-01-31 15:38:30: [Server] suspiciously large amount of objects detected: 18 in (-1,0,-1); removing all of them. |
| 15:51 |
Megaf |
<ERROR> 2018-01-31 15:38:43: [Server] suspiciously large amount of objects detected: 18 in (-3,1,-2); removing all of them. |
| 15:51 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2018-01-31 15:38:47: [Server] DOIN leaves game. List of players: |
| 15:51 |
Megaf |
sfan5: ^ |
| 15:51 |
Megaf |
(My server is protected by password) |
| 15:52 |
Megaf |
no idea how he joined |
| 15:52 |
sfan5 |
cool |
| 15:52 |
Megaf |
he must have joined before I set the password |
| 15:52 |
Megaf |
Notice he wasnt moved to static spawn point |
| 15:52 |
redblade7 |
that IP too? |
| 15:53 |
redblade7 |
anyone have a full list? |
| 15:53 |
Megaf |
redblade7: I don't know if that was an attack or not |
| 15:53 |
redblade7 |
ok |
| 15:53 |
red-001 |
Megaf, brute force? |
| 15:53 |
redblade7 |
i'll just ban the 3 then |
| 15:53 |
red-001 |
or maybe got someone on your server to give them the login |
| 15:53 |
rubenwardy |
how do you ban IPs? :D |
| 15:53 |
Megaf |
sfan5: http://paste.debian.net/plainh/b743989c |
| 15:54 |
sfan5 |
*sigh* |
| 15:54 |
sfan5 |
if they could join despite a password either 1) they knew the password or 2) your server is misconfigured |
| 15:55 |
redblade7 |
i have xban2, looks like it only takes player names... |
| 15:55 |
redblade7 |
i can use iptables but will xban2 work anyway (even though it says /xban player reason)? |
| 15:55 |
Megaf |
sfan5: position = (-223.92,125,-272.09) |
| 15:55 |
Megaf |
that was the position of DOIN, only player only at that moment |
| 15:55 |
Megaf |
that position clearly looks like automated movement |
| 15:55 |
sfan5 |
is it a new account and where is your spawnpoint? |
| 15:55 |
Megaf |
in diagonal |
| 15:56 |
redblade7 |
there's a /ban |
| 15:56 |
Megaf |
spawnpoint is 0,10,0 |
| 15:56 |
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| 15:56 |
redblade7 |
will that be integrated into xban? |
| 15:56 |
Megaf |
all new joins are moved to spawnpoint |
| 15:56 |
sfan5 |
well then that's broken |
| 15:56 |
Fixer |
those flying bots are mere suggestion you that mt anticheat suck |
| 15:56 |
Fixer |
to you* |
| 15:57 |
Megaf |
sfan5: I think he may have joined first before I set the password |
| 15:57 |
Megaf |
lemme check debug |
| 15:57 |
sfan5 |
then where is the problem? |
| 15:57 |
redblade7 |
the instruction for /ban also says "player" but says "ban IP" |
| 15:57 |
red-001 |
Megaf, that seems to just be an Argentinan ISP |
| 15:57 |
redblade7 |
will "/xban ip" work or do i have to have a player name first? |
| 15:57 |
Megaf |
minetestPlatinum:~$ cat MegafServer/BinMegafServer/debug.txt | grep DOIN |
| 15:57 |
Megaf |
2018-01-31 15:38:28: ACTION[Server]: DOIN [181.28.12.35] joins game. |
| 15:57 |
red-001 |
Argentinian* |
| 15:58 |
red-001 |
did they do the same thing the bots do? |
| 15:58 |
Megaf |
sfan5: ok, it looks like he bypassed defaultpassword |
| 15:58 |
Megaf |
unless theres a way of knowing when a player first joined |
| 15:58 |
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| 15:59 |
Megaf |
I'm using the old style text based player stuff |
| 15:59 |
redblade7 |
can someone help me please? |
| 16:00 |
redblade7 |
/xban and /ban both say to use names, not ips |
| 16:00 |
redblade7 |
i can use iptables but is there a way to use xban if i dont have a player yet |
| 16:00 |
Megaf |
minetestPlatinum:~$ cat MegafServer-Backup-27-01-2018/BinMegafServer/debug.txt | grep DOIN |
| 16:00 |
Megaf |
2018-01-21 14:59:50: ACTION[Server]: Moving DOIN to static spawnpoint at (0,10,0) |
| 16:00 |
Megaf |
2018-01-21 14:59:50: ACTION[Server]: DOIN [181.28.12.35] joins game. |
| 16:00 |
Megaf |
Ok, DOIN is NOT an attacker |
| 16:00 |
Megaf |
that was his first login |
| 16:00 |
sfan5 |
redblade7: just use iptables |
| 16:00 |
red-001 |
<red-001> Megaf, that seems to just be an Argentinan ISP |
| 16:00 |
redblade7 |
ok |
| 16:04 |
redblade7 |
blocked with iptables |
| 16:04 |
redblade7 |
will search xban.db for player names |
| 16:04 |
redblade7 |
and other ips if they have any |
| 16:05 |
red-001 |
suggest blocking those ranges https://udger.com/resources/datacenter-list/datacenter-detail?name=gorilla_servers |
| 16:06 |
sfan5 |
don't |
| 16:06 |
redblade7 |
paulm with that ip used one of my servers |
| 16:07 |
sfan5 |
that list is trash, too broad; neither 140.250.0.0 nor 140.250.255.255 actually belong to gorilla servers |
| 16:07 |
sfan5 |
red-001: learn how networks actually work before making such suggestions |
| 16:07 |
red-001 |
sfan5, ok how about you suggest something? |
| 16:07 |
sfan5 |
i'm busy |
| 16:07 |
sfan5 |
ask me later |
| 16:07 |
redblade7 |
last logged in today |
| 16:08 |
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| 16:10 |
redblade7 |
"Player paulm moved too fast; resetting position" is about all that he did. Is that what I should look out for? |
| 16:10 |
redblade7 |
people moving too fast and resetting position? |
| 16:10 |
redblade7 |
over and over again? |
| 16:11 |
redblade7 |
/rollback paulm 2147483647 reports "Nothing to do" |
| 16:12 |
redblade7 |
and it doesnt look like he did anything, other than "moving too fast" |
| 16:16 |
Megaf |
redblade7: the attack is basically done my moving around clippining trghough everything |
| 16:16 |
Megaf |
they are exploring mapgen "design flaws" |
| 16:17 |
Megaf |
There's no flaw in mapgen, it's just the way it works |
| 16:17 |
Megaf |
like meltdown and spectre.... |
| 16:19 |
red-001 |
sfan5, would https://www.enjen.net/asn-blocklist/index.php?asn=AS53850&type=iptables be a less trash list? |
| 16:19 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 16:19 |
redblade7 |
i have a "howdy" last logged in September 24th, but with different ips |
| 16:20 |
sfan5 |
though you can likely compact the IP blocks into much fewer |
| 16:20 |
redblade7 |
223.206.43.237 and |
| 16:20 |
redblade7 |
223.206.43.237 and 223.204.69.233 |
| 16:20 |
redblade7 |
dont know if that's the same person |
| 16:20 |
sfan5 |
likely not |
| 16:21 |
redblade7 |
both from Thailand |
| 16:21 |
redblade7 |
3BB Broadband |
| 16:21 |
red-001 |
same isp too it seems |
| 16:23 |
redblade7 |
well the three ips are dropped via iptables, and i only had one username (paulm) attached to it, and he is banned |
| 16:24 |
redblade7 |
will keep a look out for the others |
| 16:24 |
redblade7 |
actually i did see Sallee123 and stuff |
| 16:24 |
redblade7 |
along the lines of that google play client |
| 16:25 |
red-001 |
redblade7, you might want to block gorilla servers in general |
| 16:26 |
redblade7 |
ok |
| 16:27 |
redblade7 |
this one you said? https://www.enjen.net/asn-blocklist/index.php?asn=AS53850&type=iptables |
| 16:27 |
red-001 |
well sfan said that one was less trash so I guess yes |
| 16:28 |
Megaf |
sfan5: I highlighted you on GitHub, give a look when able please. |
| 16:30 |
sfan5 |
Megaf: where? can't see it in my notifications |
| 16:32 |
Megaf |
Thanks sfan5 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/6219#issuecomment-361979800 |
| 16:32 |
Megaf |
paramat rubenwardy you are involved in that too |
| 16:32 |
Megaf |
^ |
| 16:35 |
sfan5 |
Megaf: it would probably help, but that PR is nowhere near ready |
| 16:35 |
sfan5 |
and seems to require client coorperation(?) |
| 16:41 |
Megaf |
minetestPlatinum:~$ find . -name map.sqlite -exec du -ms {} + |
| 16:41 |
Megaf |
4844 ./MegafServer/worlds/world/map.sqlite |
| 16:41 |
Megaf |
4740 ./MegafServer/worlds-bkp/world/map.sqlite |
| 16:41 |
Megaf |
4412 ./MegafServer-Backup-20-01-2018/MegafServer/worlds-28_Dec_2017/world/map.sqlite |
| 16:41 |
Megaf |
4740 ./MegafServer-Backup-20-01-2018/MegafServer/worlds/world/map.sqlite |
| 16:41 |
Megaf |
4743 ./MegafServer-Backup-27-01-2018/worlds/world/map.sqlite |
| 16:41 |
Megaf |
4740 ./MegafServer-Backup-27-01-2018/worlds-bkp/world/map.sqlite |
| 16:42 |
Megaf |
so, from Jan/20th to today map grew from 4740 MB to 4844 |
| 16:42 |
Megaf |
(with basically no one online but attack bots) |
| 16:43 |
Megaf |
Shara: ^ |
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| 16:53 |
redblade7 |
two of those are "opera proxy" |
| 16:54 |
redblade7 |
only one in that list is part of gorilla servers |
| 16:54 |
Megaf |
Yep, I find that quite interesting |
| 16:54 |
redblade7 |
i dont know much about opera browser (used it briefly years and years ago when it was shareware) |
| 16:54 |
Megaf |
It's almost as if somebody crafted a "client" in HTML5 to just attack servers |
| 16:55 |
Megaf |
that would explain how they can clip trhough everything |
| 16:55 |
redblade7 |
but is opera like tor browser where you can have the browser open to keep the proxy for everything else? |
| 16:55 |
redblade7 |
like i do with freenode a lot of times |
| 16:55 |
Megaf |
Opera is a browser, a closed source one |
| 16:55 |
Megaf |
and Opera, the company, has it's own proxy service, built in into Opera Browser |
| 16:56 |
sfan5 |
html5 can't send raw udp packets, this is definitely not a browser |
| 16:56 |
Megaf |
so traffic first goes to Opera, then they are digested and compressed, then sent to you |
| 16:57 |
Megaf |
Well, I presume that as well sfan, but, how else would they do that? |
| 16:57 |
Megaf |
Opera was supposed to be focuses in security, that's why they exist in the first place. |
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Megaf |
Hi behalebabo |
| 17:03 |
redblade7 |
one is Opera Mini ASN 21837 |
| 17:03 |
redblade7 |
the other is Linode ASN 63949 |
| 17:03 |
benrob0329 |
You people need to lean to look at the completion before hitting enter :P |
| 17:03 |
benrob0329 |
Hi Megaf |
| 17:04 |
A_Hamilton |
benrob0329: I have learned that it pays to type at least 3 characters before hitting tab. |
| 17:04 |
benrob0329 |
Generally, yes |
| 17:06 |
Megaf |
A_Hamilton: well observed |
| 17:06 |
Megaf |
hi benrob0329 |
| 17:06 |
A_Hamilton |
so, this was brought up on another channel. |
| 17:06 |
Megaf |
redblade7: I'm not sure what to do with the ASN thing |
| 17:06 |
A_Hamilton |
a player thought that it would be nice to see the vertical direction that you are looking. |
| 17:07 |
A_Hamilton |
and yaw isn't for this since it only shows rotational direction around the x and y axis. |
| 17:13 |
redblade7 |
well i'm thinking that players dont generally connect to the internet from linode or gorillaservers, and dont generally play minetest with opera proxy |
| 17:13 |
redblade7 |
my servers are hosted on linode |
| 17:13 |
redblade7 |
i'd just take the whole ASN and block only to minetest ports |
| 17:14 |
Megaf |
attacks from other places will come |
| 17:14 |
redblade7 |
i know |
| 17:14 |
Megaf |
for now the attack is not happening, there was a wave around 30 minutes ago, now it has stopped |
| 17:14 |
Megaf |
lets see for long |
| 17:15 |
redblade7 |
well i can't imagine any legitimate player coming from linode or gorillaservers, am i right? |
| 17:15 |
redblade7 |
of any game? |
| 17:15 |
Megaf |
You'd be right for the most time yes |
| 17:15 |
redblade7 |
i mean those ips generally do ssh attacks |
| 17:16 |
Megaf |
simetimes I'd have a SSH VPN to my linode when using non secure wifi or slow internet |
| 17:16 |
Megaf |
maybe that's how they are using Linode |
| 17:20 |
redblade7 |
there are just a ton of ips on that list and i'm a little uncomfortable about blocking the whole thing |
| 17:20 |
redblade7 |
https://www.enjen.net/asn-blocklist/index.php?asn=AS63949&type=iptables |
| 17:20 |
redblade7 |
dropping i mena |
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| 17:23 |
redblade7 |
i think i'll just stick to the subnet in question |
| 17:23 |
redblade7 |
especially since my server is hosted on one of those ips, even though it's the destination ports weird things might happen |
| 17:24 |
redblade7 |
not subnet |
| 17:24 |
redblade7 |
what's the word |
| 17:24 |
redblade7 |
cidr |
| 17:29 |
redblade7 |
the three "109" ranges should be good enough, one of which contains the offending ip above |
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| 17:36 |
redblade7 |
"ehdbfnsmallambbgd" in my logs with 109.74.161.126 |
| 17:36 |
redblade7 |
let me look up more |
| 17:37 |
red-001 |
doesn't linode have muliple ASNs? |
| 17:38 |
redblade7 |
didn't do anything, just timed out |
| 17:38 |
redblade7 |
i'm pretty sure they do, but there's a hell of a lot including mine in that link |
| 17:38 |
red-001 |
redblade7, oh that makes sense |
| 17:38 |
red-001 |
I was wonder what was up with the ips the belong to the opera corp |
| 17:40 |
red-001 |
redblade7, I suppose you could write a mod that would just block creating new accounts from ips in those ranges |
| 17:40 |
IhrFussel |
Is anticheat serious? Trampolines are broken now |
| 17:40 |
red-001 |
but this sure is easier |
| 17:41 |
redblade7 |
i'm surprised a name like that got through the no guests filter |
| 17:42 |
redblade7 |
well i have all of the gorilla in that asn dropped, all of the opera proxies in that asn dropped, and will add more linodes if needed |
| 17:44 |
red-001 |
well that site has an IP might write a mod to use it, for server owners that don't want to just drop the connections from those ASNs but return some sort of message in the rare case of a legimate user |
| 17:44 |
redblade7 |
my server being on linode and on one of those ranges, i dont want to drop everything in the list |
| 17:44 |
redblade7 |
i have a few other ip blocks filtered to outsmart griefers i've dealt with over time |
| 17:45 |
redblade7 |
which are residential and limited to certain parts of the world (currently only parts of brazil, i think) |
| 17:46 |
redblade7 |
true |
| 17:46 |
redblade7 |
as the gpg manual says, you dont want things too secure because you'll get mugged |
| 17:46 |
IhrFussel |
Trampolines are broken for anyone without fast priv...that's bad |
| 17:46 |
redblade7 |
trampolines? |
| 17:47 |
redblade7 |
i have anticheat on but never knew what it does |
| 17:47 |
sofar |
bouncy nodes |
| 17:47 |
redblade7 |
what does it do? |
| 17:47 |
sofar |
do the bouncy |
| 17:47 |
redblade7 |
no anticheat |
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| 17:47 |
IhrFussel |
It resets your position |
| 17:47 |
Krock |
\o/ |
| 17:47 |
IhrFussel |
If you move too fast in any direction |
| 17:47 |
Mr-Pardison |
/o\ |
| 17:47 |
sofar |
anticheat thinks you can't move up that fast |
| 17:48 |
IhrFussel |
I can record it one sec |
| 17:50 |
redblade7 |
Delucian374 109.237.36.68 (from that Linode range) normal gameplay in August-September 2016 |
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IhrFussel |
redblade7, http://94.16.121.151/trampoline.mp4 |
| 17:52 |
red-001 |
redblade7, might have not been linode back then |
| 17:52 |
red-001 |
redblade7, oh you meant they connected now? |
| 17:52 |
redblade7 |
no |
| 17:53 |
redblade7 |
i was just grepping xban.db with those three linode ranges i mentioned |
| 17:53 |
red-001 |
vpn? |
| 17:54 |
Krock |
ladders with faster speeds are also very hard to implement correctly without slowing down anticheat by checking for nodes nearby |
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| 17:56 |
sofar |
maybe people want to finally consider using mt2fa so they can force players to register with an email |
| 17:56 |
sofar |
:) |
| 17:56 |
redblade7 |
there's another player from 109.237.113.114 "Farrington11" early November 2017 who seems human but didnt do much but punch things and drop some cobblestone |
| 17:57 |
redblade7 |
mt2fa? |
| 17:57 |
redblade7 |
not familiar |
| 17:57 |
rubenwardy |
~g minetest two factor authentication |
| 17:57 |
ShadowBot |
rubenwardy: Two-factor authentication for Apple ID - Apple Support - Two-factor authentication is an extra layer of security for your Apple ID designed to ensure that you're the only person who can access your account, even ... </l/?kh=-1&uddg=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.apple.com%2Fen%2Dus%2FHT204915>, Cheat sheet: Two-factor authentication - TechRepublic - A password alone will not protect (7 more messages) |
| 17:57 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
| 17:57 |
sofar |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=19313 |
| 17:57 |
sofar |
try that one ;) |
| 17:57 |
Krock |
sofar, active advertising, that is. |
| 17:57 |
sofar |
Krock: leedvermaak, partially |
| 17:58 |
sofar |
redblade7: essentially, players become a bit less anonymous |
| 17:59 |
sofar |
you can set it to be very strict, or relaxed |
| 17:59 |
sofar |
and somewhere in between |
| 18:00 |
sofar |
it also adds some tooling to stem this type of abuse |
| 18:00 |
red-001 |
!title |
| 18:00 |
MinetestBot |
red-001: Minetest 2-factor Authentication Service[mt2fa] - Minetest Forums |
| 18:01 |
redblade7 |
i never set up http on my vps |
| 18:01 |
sofar |
you don't need to |
| 18:01 |
redblade7 |
never had the need and dont want trouble |
| 18:01 |
sofar |
you only need the mod part |
| 18:02 |
redblade7 |
i just use forum posts |
| 18:02 |
sofar |
I run a public mt2fa server that your server can use |
| 18:02 |
redblade7 |
actually should probably link to those as the homepage |
| 18:02 |
sofar |
there's nothing to link, it's just a http API service |
| 18:04 |
red-001 |
didn't know minetest could even do https |
| 18:04 |
redblade7 |
no i mean link the forum posts as the server homepage on servers.minetest.net |
| 18:04 |
sofar |
http://mt2fa.foo-projects.org/ |
| 18:04 |
sofar |
red-001: neither did I, but it works :D |
| 18:04 |
red-001 |
and it does https doesn't just silently use http? |
| 18:05 |
red-001 |
huh |
| 18:05 |
sofar |
the http only redirects to https on my server |
| 18:05 |
sofar |
so it forces https |
| 18:05 |
red-001 |
we should like document that or something |
| 18:06 |
sofar |
the mt2fa mod properly has https as the url, of course, to avoid the redirect |
| 18:07 |
Shara |
Late to the party maybe, but serously Megaf, don't recommend to ban names of well known players/devs just because someone impersonated them. |
| 18:08 |
rubenwardy |
ofc Minetest can |
| 18:08 |
rubenwardy |
it uses curl to do http, which supports HTTPs |
| 18:09 |
rubenwardy |
frankly any HTTP library that doesn't allow HTTPs is broken |
| 18:09 |
sofar |
right |
| 18:09 |
redblade7 |
any more troublemaking ips i should be aware of, other than the three you mentioned? |
| 18:09 |
Shara |
Just monitor for behaviour. |
| 18:09 |
redblade7 |
ok |
| 18:10 |
Shara |
Whoever it is can just get new IP addresses when needed it seems |
| 18:10 |
redblade7 |
but you dont have any others you know about so far? |
| 18:10 |
Shara |
I've actually lost track at this point. |
| 18:12 |
redblade7 |
what is "[off]" btw |
| 18:13 |
red-001 |
stops the message from being logged by the irc.minetest.net logger |
| 18:14 |
benrob0329 |
rubenwardy: LuaSocket :^)) |
| 18:14 |
rubenwardy |
ew |
| 18:14 |
rubenwardy |
request_http_api tho |
| 18:15 |
benrob0329 |
Not all Lua code is in Minetest tho |
| 18:15 |
rubenwardy |
heretic! |
| 18:16 |
redblade7 |
sofar i miseed your message, sorry |
| 18:16 |
rubenwardy |
also, I recommend the Refined Github plugin for firefox and google chrome |
| 18:16 |
rubenwardy |
adds lots of nice features to Github |
| 18:16 |
redblade7 |
sent you some |
| 18:16 |
benrob0329 |
Eww FF and Chrome |
| 18:16 |
benrob0329 |
:^) |
| 18:16 |
rubenwardy |
gtfo |
| 18:16 |
benrob0329 |
You first |
| 18:16 |
rubenwardy |
:P |
| 18:16 |
benrob0329 |
:P |
| 18:19 |
Fixer |
smile with hands |
| 18:20 |
benrob0329 |
Fixer: No, just no |
| 18:21 |
benrob0329 |
I as inv was bad enough |
| 18:21 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: yeah |
| 18:21 |
benrob0329 |
We dont need m as map too, forcing me to reach to the other side of the keyboard (potentially compromising my stance) because "it starts with m" |
| 18:24 |
benrob0329 |
Fixer: you are Fixer-007 on github, right? |
| 18:25 |
Fixer |
yes |
| 18:25 |
benrob0329 |
Ok, making sure |
| 18:25 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: m is rarely used though |
| 18:25 |
benrob0329 |
M is on the other side of the keyboard |
| 18:25 |
benrob0329 |
We have enough keys surrounding the left hand to make this work |
| 18:26 |
benrob0329 |
Also +1 for tab being inventory |
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| 18:32 |
benrob0329 |
Fixer: honestly MT's system for food seems somewhat broken |
| 18:33 |
benrob0329 |
You just punch with food, no animation, no way to stop |
| 18:33 |
benrob0329 |
You just inhale food :^) |
| 18:34 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: another reason why MTG needs MOAR ATTENTION |
| 18:34 |
rubenwardy |
engine issue |
| 18:34 |
benrob0329 |
^^ |
| 18:34 |
rubenwardy |
there |
| 18:34 |
Shara |
:) |
| 18:35 |
rubenwardy |
there's this: #4297 |
| 18:35 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4297 -- Add custom wield item animation using linear keyframes (WIP) by rubenwardy |
| 18:36 |
benrob0329 |
>closed, year old |
| 18:36 |
benrob0329 |
We need to be able to define position animations as well |
| 18:37 |
Shara |
We need many things. |
| 18:37 |
rubenwardy |
it's a position animation |
| 18:37 |
rubenwardy |
not sure what you mean |
| 18:37 |
Shara |
First of all more people working on features |
| 18:37 |
rubenwardy |
it doesn't do rotations |
| 18:37 |
benrob0329 |
Heck, maybe changes to client visual effects should be interpolated |
| 18:37 |
benrob0329 |
Eg camera offset |
| 18:38 |
Shara |
And you know, maybe some nice bug fixing |
| 18:38 |
benrob0329 |
Shara: whats bug fixing? We just dress bugs in a little hat and call them features :^) |
| 18:39 |
Shara |
Then we need mroe fancydress experts |
| 18:39 |
benrob0329 |
That I cannot argue with |
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| 18:42 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: how it is engine problem? |
| 18:43 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: if food full, do not eat, how it this hard to do in MTG? |
| 18:43 |
Fixer |
how is this* |
| 18:45 |
benrob0329 |
It should take time to eat, you could survive a nuke with about Apple right now. |
| 18:45 |
benrob0329 |
*enough apples |
| 18:45 |
benrob0329 |
Stupid soft keyboards |
| 18:46 |
rubenwardy |
Fixer, benrob0329 said about animations |
| 18:46 |
rubenwardy |
also food is in the engine |
| 18:46 |
Fixer |
fffuuuck |
| 18:46 |
ThomasMonroe |
? |
| 18:47 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: so MTG actually needs food mod with animations and other... |
| 18:47 |
Fixer |
actually no |
| 18:47 |
Fixer |
it should be included in farming |
| 18:48 |
rubenwardy |
that doesn't make sense |
| 18:48 |
rubenwardy |
as apples |
| 18:48 |
Fixer |
we have other foods too |
| 18:49 |
Fixer |
and food is in a half-way linked to farming (from trees or from farming) |
| 18:49 |
benrob0329 |
Apples take time to eat, as does a whole loaf of bread |
| 18:49 |
rubenwardy |
that's not how dependencies work |
| 18:49 |
benrob0329 |
Lets think about this for a minute, you can eat a loaf of bread instantaneously |
| 18:50 |
Shara |
Player model clearly has a big mouth. |
| 18:50 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: but but it is minetest sparta, i mean game |
| 18:50 |
Shara |
It happens! |
| 18:50 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: and player has invisible tools, thats clearly A L I E N T E C |
| 18:51 |
benrob0329 |
Shara: Sam doesnt have thar big of a mouth...maybe it opens up like a snake's jaw but in a fraction of a second |
| 18:51 |
Shara |
Yup. |
| 18:51 |
Shara |
Screenshot at the right moment and it is terrifying |
| 18:52 |
benrob0329 |
Thats terrifying |
| 18:52 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: also, it ends up with AUTOEAT HACK |
| 18:52 |
ThomasMonroe |
lol |
| 18:53 |
benrob0329 |
s a m i n h a l e s h i s f o o d |
| 18:53 |
benrob0329 |
Which just can't be healthy |
| 18:53 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: remember, invisible tools |
| 18:53 |
Fixer |
totally legit |
| 18:54 |
Fixer |
i'm overly positive and productive, for reasonable and whatever |
| 18:54 |
benrob0329 |
Remember what I said about dressing up bugs? |
| 18:54 |
Fixer |
there is picture for that somewhere |
| 18:54 |
Fixer |
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/552eb0dce4b0c7c4ab71e064/55439a76e4b01be424066d96/55439a84e4b01be424067163/1431485733552/?format=1000w |
| 18:57 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: here you go https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/2037 |
| 19:02 |
Krock |
Fixer, there's one more. https://i.imgur.com/7heihIA.jpg |
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IhrFussel |
Weird...I just got a crash cause desc in 3d_armor was nil? AFAIK all armor parts do have a description though |
| 19:15 |
IhrFussel |
Is on_dig() the best callback to check for protection or when? |
| 19:15 |
IhrFussel |
Is on_dig() even called when the node got a dig_immediate group? |
| 19:16 |
sfan5 |
1) yes 2) what? of course |
| 19:16 |
IhrFussel |
Is a simple return enough then to disallow digging? |
| 19:17 |
sfan5 |
!api |
| 19:17 |
MinetestBot |
Someone thinks you should read the API docs, please go to: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt |
| 19:17 |
Mr-Pardison |
lol |
| 19:17 |
Mr-Pardison |
love the bot's response to that. |
| 19:17 |
sfan5 |
ah no, on_dignode can't prevent digs |
| 19:17 |
sfan5 |
use minetest.is_protected(pos, name) instead |
| 19:18 |
IhrFussel |
But in which callback? |
| 19:18 |
sfan5 |
read what the docs say about that |
| 19:18 |
IhrFussel |
I want to disallow only digging inside protected areas not placing |
| 19:18 |
sfan5 |
that's not supported |
| 19:20 |
IhrFussel |
sfan5, it should be possible to just re-place the node in after_dig_node or not? |
| 19:20 |
sfan5 |
don't do that |
| 19:20 |
sfan5 |
(what about dropped items? side effects?) |
| 19:21 |
IhrFussel |
Well that's a significant design flaw...I'll see if there's an issue for that yet |
| 19:22 |
Krock |
IhrFussel, hacky workaround: overwrite https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/builtin/game/item.lua#L537 |
| 19:24 |
IhrFussel |
Wait...on_dig() defaults to protection check anyway? |
| 19:24 |
IhrFussel |
"if is_protected(pos, diggername) then" |
| 19:24 |
sfan5 |
of course it does |
| 19:24 |
Krock |
yes.. why shouldn't it? |
| 19:25 |
IhrFussel |
I didn't do much with nodes yet, I thought maybe modders need to implement a certain callback to make sure protection is not violated |
| 19:27 |
paramat |
Shara and server owners see #6998 , untested, hopefully allows entities to function outside the set 'mapgen limit' |
| 19:27 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6998 -- SAO limits: Allow SAOs to function outside the set 'mapgen limit' by paramat |
| 19:27 |
paramat |
testing appreciated |
| 19:28 |
Shara |
Thanks, paramat |
| 19:28 |
IhrFussel |
Shara, your flames don't seem to check for protection |
| 19:28 |
Shara |
Fussel, more detail? |
| 19:29 |
IhrFussel |
I revoked my areas priv and can still place/dig them in another protection |
| 19:29 |
Shara |
Did you revoke protection_bypass? |
| 19:29 |
Shara |
They are a node, so it makes no sense to be able to dig them in a protected area |
| 19:30 |
IhrFussel |
I forgot that priv is also part of "areas" check |
| 19:30 |
Shara |
:D |
| 19:30 |
Shara |
Test again then please, and let me know if there is a real problem |
| 19:31 |
Shara |
There is a protection check for placement in the mod, I believe. |
| 19:31 |
Shara |
But if it doesn't work, will gladly fix |
| 19:31 |
IhrFussel |
Placing doesn't work anymore so I'm assuming digging doesn't either |
| 19:32 |
Shara |
:) |
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| 19:32 |
IhrFussel |
Okay confirmed it was just protection_bypass |
| 19:39 |
paramat |
so, if you generate world out to a certain distance, then reduce 'mapgen limit' to less than that distance, the existing world outside 'mapgen limit' should continue to function normally in all ways, if it doesn't let me know |
| 19:51 |
IhrFussel |
'stamina' in callback luaentity_Step(): Runtime error from mod 'stamina' in callback on_player_hpchange(): |
| 19:52 |
IhrFussel |
Incomplete |
| 19:52 |
IhrFussel |
2018-01-31 20:48:52: ERROR[Main]: ServerError: AsyncErr: ServerThread::run Lua: Runtime error from mod 'stamina' in callback luaentity_Step(): Runtime error from mod 'stamina' in callback on_player_hpchange(): ...t/worlds/oldserver/worldmods/3d_armor/3d_armor/armor.lua:555: attempt to index a nil value |
| 19:52 |
IhrFussel |
armor.lua 555 is just local desc = minetest.registered_items[item].description and after that I even check if not desc then desc = "" end |
| 19:53 |
IhrFussel |
So is "item" the nil value? |
| 19:55 |
shivajiva |
did the player log out |
| 19:55 |
Megaf |
Yet another IP to ban 190.178.247.30 |
| 19:55 |
Shara |
Megaf: They woke up again? |
| 19:56 |
sofar |
Megaf: username? |
| 19:56 |
IhrFussel |
shivajiva, the last log entry before the crash is actually a join one |
| 19:56 |
Megaf |
around 2 hours ago Shara |
| 19:56 |
Mr_Pardison |
Shara: they try and rise but we seem to have to squash them out again and again on different servers. |
| 19:56 |
Mr_Pardison |
seems like we need an exterminator. |
| 19:56 |
Megaf |
martina, yao, sofar |
| 19:56 |
Shara |
Mr_Pardison: My servers are keeping the border up |
| 19:56 |
Megaf |
these two were the latest I can confirm |
| 19:57 |
Megaf |
juan and enmanual are possibilities |
| 19:57 |
Megaf |
martina, yao, used the IP above |
| 19:57 |
Shara |
Did you actually see them with the glitchy movement? |
| 19:57 |
Megaf |
juan, martina and yao used totally different IPs |
| 19:57 |
Megaf |
Shara: I'm just seeing the backlog, my server is blocking them, preventing from joining |
| 19:58 |
red-001 |
huh |
| 19:58 |
Shara |
Doesn't mean anything then |
| 19:58 |
Megaf |
Shara: I see patterns, I'm very good at that |
| 19:58 |
red-001 |
maybe that user from Argentina was also a bot |
| 19:58 |
Shara |
Maybe, but unless you have proof, it's not nice to hand out IP addresses for banning |
| 19:58 |
Megaf |
red-001: trace that IP please |
| 19:58 |
sofar |
there's a Juan on CTF... |
| 19:59 |
Megaf |
ruan was the one at my server |
| 19:59 |
red-001 |
Megaf, it's another from Argentina |
| 19:59 |
red-001 |
thats why I said that |
| 19:59 |
Megaf |
sofar: if it has upper case in the nick the changes of been an attacker are slimmer |
| 19:59 |
Shara |
Megaf: I've seen them using upper case |
| 19:59 |
ThomasMonroe |
and its actually talking XD |
| 19:59 |
Megaf |
Shara: so did I, I said slimmer |
| 19:59 |
red-001 |
I think most people use lowercase for usernames |
| 20:00 |
Shara |
Just don't start a witchhunt please |
| 20:00 |
Megaf |
there was Jordach and Paramat bots in my server earlier |
| 20:00 |
sofar |
the uppercase one is on ctf, the lowercase one was on minetesthosting:30252 for less than 10 minutes earlier today |
| 20:00 |
Megaf |
appologies for highlights |
| 20:00 |
sofar |
I can't find any yao's in the last 12+ hours |
| 20:00 |
sofar |
nor any martina's |
| 20:01 |
Megaf |
Shara: there's no way to revert the damage 100%. I'm not letting them join. |
| 20:01 |
Megaf |
sofar: did you get my messages where I said bot names? |
| 20:01 |
red-001 |
Megaf, you sure that ip is a bot? |
| 20:02 |
Megaf |
red-001: I'm not, but I believe the changes are high |
| 20:02 |
sofar |
no |
| 20:02 |
sofar |
Megaf: I have -R set or whatever that flag is |
| 20:02 |
Megaf |
red-001: there was precise 3 attempts from each of the two nick to connect from that IP |
| 20:02 |
red-001 |
https://ipinfo.io/AS22927 |
| 20:02 |
Megaf |
3 from ruan, then 3 from martina |
| 20:02 |
Megaf |
Sorry |
| 20:03 |
Megaf |
not ruan, yao |
| 20:03 |
Shara |
Dumping people's IP addresses in a public channel with the goal of getting them banned is NOT a good thing to do. You should be absolutely sure if you will do that. |
| 20:03 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2018-01-31 18:37:35: [Server] Server: User yao at 190.178.247.30 supplied wrong password (auth mechanism: SRP). |
| 20:03 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2018-01-31 18:37:46: [Server] Server: User yao at 190.178.247.30 supplied wrong password (auth mechanism: SRP). |
| 20:03 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2018-01-31 18:37:58: [Server] Server: User yao at 190.178.247.30 supplied wrong password (auth mechanism: SRP). |
| 20:03 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2018-01-31 18:38:29: [Server] Server: User martina at 190.178.247.30 supplied wrong password (auth mechanism: SRP). |
| 20:03 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2018-01-31 18:38:52: [Server] Server: User martina at 190.178.247.30 supplied wrong password (auth mechanism: SRP). |
| 20:03 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2018-01-31 18:39:19: [Server] Server: User martina at 190.178.247.30 supplied wrong password (auth mechanism: SRP). |
| 20:03 |
Megaf |
look at the timestamp |
| 20:03 |
Krock |
~-> Pastebin |
| 20:03 |
ShadowBot |
Krock: Error: Spurious ">". You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands. |
| 20:03 |
red-001 |
looks like it's a mix of commerical hosting and just normal isp stuff |
| 20:03 |
sofar |
hehe try pastebin lol |
| 20:03 |
Krock |
""quotes"" |
| 20:04 |
red-001 |
Megaf, you have a default password but are still on the public server list right? |
| 20:04 |
IhrFussel |
Shara, can you confirm that they always stay at one height and then move? Or do they change the height sometimes? |
| 20:04 |
Megaf |
red-001: right |
| 20:04 |
red-001 |
could just be a random user thinking there is something wrong with thier username |
| 20:04 |
sfan5 |
which is far more likely |
| 20:04 |
red-001 |
like the account already being used |
| 20:05 |
Megaf |
about dropping IPs here, most of the IPs are dynamic, I mean, for normal users, they change every 24 or 48 hours |
| 20:05 |
red-001 |
iirc we don't have a special message for wrong default password |
| 20:05 |
Megaf |
IPs from attackers are commercial static IPs |
| 20:05 |
Megaf |
so no big harm done banning them anyway |
| 20:06 |
red-001 |
Megaf, depends on the ISP, pretty sure some home connections get a new ip a lot less often |
| 20:06 |
Shara |
Normal users? Uhm, no. |
| 20:06 |
IhrFussel |
I log players every 30 secs if they stay at the same height and moved in some direction...that floods the debug.txt a little but I think it#s worth it |
| 20:06 |
Shara |
Plenty of people keep a single IP address for a long time. You should not make assumptions to justify yourself. |
| 20:06 |
Megaf |
anyway, we know lots of good players names |
| 20:07 |
Shara |
As has been said, names change. |
| 20:07 |
Megaf |
so do IPs |
| 20:07 |
sfan5 |
megaf does not likes his players |
| 20:07 |
sfan5 |
"oh just ban them who cares" |
| 20:07 |
Shara |
You can use the common names that are proven to have been used over and over to get an idea. That is all. |
| 20:07 |
red-001 |
Megaf, not sure how good these stats are but the ASN for that ip only has 160 ips hosting sites |
| 20:07 |
Shara |
:D |
| 20:07 |
red-001 |
out of 4 million |
| 20:07 |
Megaf |
and they are bots, they can have any IP/name and even MAC |
| 20:07 |
Shara |
IhrFussel: I never yet saw one change height, but I have seen them within one world at multiple levels. |
| 20:08 |
Megaf |
red-001: which means? |
| 20:08 |
red-001 |
Megaf, implying changing mac is harder then changing IP |
| 20:08 |
IhrFussel |
Shara, okay good that means my code should find them easily if they stay at one height for a long time |
| 20:08 |
Shara |
I suspect whoever sets them up puts them at an initial height, and then it's constant. |
| 20:09 |
* Megaf |
can change his MAC at will |
| 20:09 |
Megaf |
same for my IP |
| 20:09 |
red-001 |
considering how much effort they put into being a pain, I think it's reasonable they are reading logs just to see how they can be more of a PITA |
| 20:09 |
Shara |
Of course they will be. |
| 20:10 |
red-001 |
Shara, Megaf, you block linode and gorilla hosting? |
| 20:10 |
sofar |
whoever is doing this is certainly making up arbitrary names... I'm surprised my name wasn't one of them earlier |
| 20:10 |
Shara |
I've banned the ones I actively found on the server |
| 20:10 |
Shara |
I only saw two dev names so far |
| 20:11 |
red-001 |
tbh kinda disapointed that it's not "guerilla hosting" |
| 20:11 |
Megaf |
red-001: I blocked a couple of IPs |
| 20:11 |
red-001 |
I guess that might have been too on the nose |
| 20:11 |
Shara |
sofar: maybe you've just been impersonated everywhere already? :D |
| 20:11 |
red-001 |
Shara, might be easier to just block all of them |
| 20:12 |
Shara |
All of what? |
| 20:12 |
red-001 |
all ip ranges that linode and gorilla hosting use, since then they have to get a new host not just a new ip |
| 20:13 |
Shara |
And all OVHH and whatever the other thing was and some others as well no doubt... where's it stop? |
| 20:13 |
Shara |
They can't join my servers anyway |
| 20:13 |
Shara |
OVH* |
| 20:14 |
Megaf |
sofar: in the backlog I mentioned some confirmed bots names, did you get them? |
| 20:14 |
Megaf |
sofar: megamaniac whoanelly howdy Jordach minetella minesoup sodamage Paramat paulm sallee |
| 20:14 |
Megaf |
Apologies for highlight again |
| 20:15 |
red-001 |
A_Hamilton, like the musical? |
| 20:15 |
A_Hamilton |
red-001: yes. |
| 20:15 |
Megaf |
Jordach: by the way, any new walkman or record player you got recently? |
| 20:15 |
Megaf |
paramat: Thanks for your effort in mitigating the attacks |
| 20:15 |
Megaf |
and thanks to all devs involved |
| 20:16 |
Megaf |
We are all working together to fix this |
| 20:16 |
red-001 |
Shara, as in this https://ipinfo.io/AS16276 ? |
| 20:16 |
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| 20:17 |
Shara |
red-001: They have used OVH as well, not just Linode and Gorilla |
| 20:18 |
Megaf |
red-001: Shara: check those please paste.debian.net/plainh/33dcc7c6 |
| 20:18 |
red-001 |
https://www.enjen.net/asn-blocklist/index.php?asn=AS16276&type=iptables |
| 20:19 |
Megaf |
non public paste self destructing in 24 hours ^ |
| 20:19 |
red-001 |
can't say how good of an idea blocking all of OVH is |
| 20:19 |
red-001 |
sfan5, any input? |
| 20:19 |
Shara |
I'm not doing it anyway |
| 20:20 |
red-001 |
I imagine you might get some unhappy VPN users if this continues |
| 20:20 |
Megaf |
how do I send trace information to debug.txt but not to terminal? |
| 20:20 |
sfan5 |
stupid idea |
| 20:20 |
Megaf |
sfan5: the trace idea? |
| 20:20 |
red-001 |
I would guess the OVH one |
| 20:20 |
Shara |
mAss blocking everything because a bot used it? No thanks. |
| 20:21 |
Shara |
Mass* |
| 20:21 |
sfan5 |
whoever is doing this has not even shown that they would try to attack the same servers again (from the same provider) |
| 20:21 |
sfan5 |
Megaf: no not that |
| 20:21 |
Shara |
sfan5: Exactly. |
| 20:21 |
red-001 |
they do seem to be doing it? |
| 20:21 |
sfan5 |
are they? |
| 20:21 |
red-001 |
or are they just reusing the ip? |
| 20:21 |
Shara |
It was from a different provider each time on RC at least |
| 20:22 |
red-001 |
so they use one ip address for as long as they can and then switch to a new ip from a new provider? |
| 20:22 |
Megaf |
possible |
| 20:22 |
Shara |
From my experience, yes |
| 20:22 |
Shara |
But ask others as well |
| 20:22 |
Megaf |
first they were trying Opera Proxy |
| 20:22 |
Megaf |
then Linode |
| 20:22 |
Megaf |
then Gorilla now OVH? |
| 20:23 |
red-001 |
wait so they only used 4 ips? |
| 20:23 |
red-001 |
that shouldn't be hard to deal with... |
| 20:23 |
Megaf |
red-001: check the pastebin I sent, more IPs there |
| 20:23 |
red-001 |
just ip ban them |
| 20:23 |
Shara |
red-001: what do you think everyone is doing? |
| 20:23 |
red-001 |
so they are reusing providers then |
| 20:23 |
red-001 |
or you are casting the net too far |
| 20:23 |
Shara |
I have more than four IPs actually. |
| 20:24 |
Shara |
But have better things to do than talk about this all night :P |
| 20:30 |
* Megaf |
checks players online |
| 20:30 |
* Megaf |
predicts another wave of attack is coming, with new names and IPs |
| 20:30 |
Megaf |
brace brace brace |
| 20:30 |
Megaf |
There's not a single bot online at the moment |
| 20:30 |
red-001 |
we are just getting into speculation here |
| 20:32 |
Megaf |
will remove the password in my server to see what happens |
| 20:32 |
Megaf |
Shara: which ban mod are you using again? |
| 20:32 |
rubenwardy |
!mod sban |
| 20:32 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: SQLite Ban [sban] by shivajiva - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=18603 |
| 20:33 |
Shara |
^ |
| 20:34 |
Megaf |
oh, I just added xban2 |
| 20:40 |
* Megaf |
waits for them bots to come |
| 20:41 |
benrob0329 |
lisac: are you lisacvuk on Github? |
| 20:42 |
lisac |
hey benrob0329, yes. |
| 20:42 |
benrob0329 |
Ok, then I'm going to say this here rather than there and repeat myself on github |
| 20:42 |
benrob0329 |
We dont need more keys that you can't access with the left hand from the standard wasd position |
| 20:43 |
benrob0329 |
Its annoying and forces players to either move their hands (not quick if in the middle of time sensitive things like a fight) or rebind the keys, which removes the point of good defaults |
| 20:44 |
benrob0329 |
I realise it sounds good to have M for map etc, but its usually not logical for ergonomics sake |
| 20:44 |
lisac |
yes, which is why I always bind inventory to tab |
| 20:44 |
benrob0329 |
M should not be map, period. |
| 20:44 |
lisac |
inventory is a lot more used then minimap in my case |
| 20:45 |
lisac |
well, tab shouldn't be map either |
| 20:45 |
lisac |
what about v? |
| 20:45 |
benrob0329 |
We have more than enough keys for both inv and map |
| 20:45 |
Shara |
Map isn't common use, so is mostly a good one to have out of the way |
| 20:45 |
lisac |
Shara: +1 |
| 20:45 |
benrob0329 |
V was suggested in the original issue, and would make sense |
| 20:45 |
benrob0329 |
Its next to c and above space |
| 20:45 |
Shara |
And no one would remember it, apart from a rare few |
| 20:45 |
lisac |
while inventory should be on tab. |
| 20:46 |
lisac |
Shara: yes, that is also possible |
| 20:46 |
benrob0329 |
Easily accessible yet not easily pressed |
| 20:46 |
benrob0329 |
People remember the f keys, and wasd |
| 20:46 |
benrob0329 |
M is waay out of the way |
| 20:47 |
benrob0329 |
Tab almost makes sense, because tab is usually a quick status display and minimal shows you where close players are |
| 20:47 |
benrob0329 |
*minimap |
| 20:47 |
lisac |
tab is also perfect for inventory, which is fifth most used key, after wasd. |
| 20:48 |
benrob0329 |
Perhaps we should move drop to z and inventory to q |
| 20:48 |
Shara |
lisac: You sure that wouldn't be space (at least for desktop users)? |
| 20:48 |
benrob0329 |
Drop gets pressed too much and inventory is too far away currently |
| 20:48 |
lisac |
Shara: possibly, sixth then |
| 20:49 |
benrob0329 |
Shift |
| 20:49 |
Shara |
^ |
| 20:49 |
lisac |
I don't press shift a lot |
| 20:49 |
Shara |
I do |
| 20:49 |
benrob0329 |
Builders do, people who fly do |
| 20:49 |
lisac |
Okay, let's call it first most pressed key after movement keys. There. |
| 20:49 |
Shara |
Heh |
| 20:49 |
benrob0329 |
Very well |
| 20:50 |
benrob0329 |
For me that might be cinematic though :^) |
| 20:51 |
Shara |
And I actually find M easier to press it would be on any of those other keys |
| 20:51 |
Shara |
After all, to keep moving while toggling map, my left hand needs to stay focus on WSAD, whereas I might not need direction change |
| 20:52 |
Shara |
Point being, impossible to make everyone happy |
| 20:52 |
benrob0329 |
But what if I want to turn on map without taking my hand off the mouse? |
| 20:52 |
Shara |
Answer: settable controls instead of trying to dictate how everyone else should play |
| 20:52 |
benrob0329 |
I see no reason to not use one of the 7+ keys around wasd for it |
| 20:53 |
Megaf |
By the way, we have a Minetest Discord server https://discord.gg/gj6VMZh |
| 20:53 |
Megaf |
there is safer than IRC to talk about stuff |
| 20:53 |
Shara |
Megaf: don't use discord sorry |
| 20:53 |
Krock |
>there is safer than IRC to talk about stuff |
| 20:53 |
Krock |
have you ever looked at their privacy stuff? |
| 20:54 |
rubenwardy |
OTR |
| 20:54 |
Megaf |
safer I mean, not so easily logged at web and we can control who join |
| 20:54 |
Shara |
Uhh, you can just talk in a non-piblic channel |
| 20:54 |
Shara |
public* |
| 20:54 |
rubenwardy |
can do that with invite only |
| 20:54 |
Megaf |
Just saying there is the possibility... |
| 20:54 |
Megaf |
I'm not there myself almost never |
| 20:54 |
Megaf |
I rather use RIC |
| 20:55 |
Megaf |
IRC |
| 20:55 |
Shara |
That was already been mentioned. |
| 20:55 |
Shara |
has* |
| 20:55 |
sfan5 |
<Megaf> safer I mean, not so easily logged at web and we can control who join |
| 20:55 |
sfan5 |
as soon as any user joins a discord they can read the whole chat log |
| 20:55 |
sfan5 |
so unless it's invite-only... |
| 20:58 |
Mr-Pardison |
well, I have to go now. |
| 20:58 |
Mr-Pardison |
I will c y'all tomorrow. |
| 21:01 |
Megaf |
sfan5: my active block range is set to 1, my force load blocks is set to 0, Im the only one only, at 0,10,0, why is a machine active at -539,-4,-283? Bug? |
| 21:02 |
Shara |
forceloading? |
| 21:02 |
Megaf |
<INFO> 2018-01-31 21:02:14: [Server] Server: New connection: "Evans" from 181.188.176.9 (peer_id=9) |
| 21:02 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2018-01-31 21:02:15: [Server] Server: Evans supplied empty password from 181.188.176.9 |
| 21:03 |
Megaf |
suspect ^ |
| 21:03 |
Megaf |
Shara: there's only pipeworks there, and one lua controller |
| 21:03 |
Megaf |
and forceload is set to 0 |
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| 21:13 |
Megaf |
<INFO> 2018-01-31 21:12:33: [Server] Server: New connection: "qweserrhd" from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (peer_id=13) |
| 21:13 |
Megaf |
Totally human^ |
| 21:13 |
Megaf |
(for real( |
| 21:13 |
* rubenwardy |
sighs |
| 21:16 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: sorry, but I'd rather not use a proprietary service created by someone who sold his previous project (and all its data) to another company, who then proceeded to be sued for breach of trust |
| 21:17 |
benrob0329 |
Heck, I'll turn down some services simply because they're proprietary |
| 21:18 |
Megaf |
benrob0329: I apreciate your point of view |
| 21:19 |
Megaf |
Sokomine: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=310645#p310645 |
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IhrFussel |
I improved my code to make it less spammy... it will now only log the players if they don't have the fly priv and are constantly at the same height |
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* Megaf |
trying out optipng |
| 22:04 |
Megaf |
running optipng -o7 in all png files |
| 22:05 |
Megaf |
** Processing: mods/lapis/screenshot.high.png |
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Megaf |
1620x1080 pixels, 3x8 bits/pixel, RGB |
| 22:05 |
Megaf |
I dont think we need huge images like that |
| 22:05 |
Megaf |
clients have to donwload that don't they? |
| 22:06 |
sfan5 |
since that's not in textures/, no they won't(?) |
| 22:06 |
redblade7 |
i got a 4k monitor recently and made 4k maps of my servers (which imgur slightly crops) |
| 22:06 |
redblade7 |
(by a few hundred) |
| 22:06 |
redblade7 |
they are on the forums |
| 22:06 |
Krock |
the server won't send any data outside models/ sounds/ or textures/ |
| 22:07 |
Megaf |
ok, good to know that |
| 22:07 |
redblade7 |
someone sent me an email requesting map screenshots, and told me about minetestmapper |
| 22:07 |
redblade7 |
so in light of my new monitor i thought i'd make 4k screenshots and post them on the forum |
| 22:07 |
Megaf |
I wish I knew how to recude the color depth of all textures to 16 if not already at 16 or lower |
| 22:08 |
Megaf |
and maybe reduce resolution of all textures by, lets say, 40%? |
| 22:08 |
redblade7 |
what i did notice though, there are white squares over certain areas (which arent the same in every picture) |
| 22:08 |
Megaf |
that would save lots of RAM in clients memory |
| 22:08 |
sfan5 |
so to 9x9? |
| 22:08 |
redblade7 |
oh you mean on the server? |
| 22:08 |
redblade7 |
ok |
| 22:08 |
redblade7 |
actually |
| 22:08 |
Megaf |
lots of textures are 256x256 |
| 22:08 |
redblade7 |
on my creative server, i have a jukebox with vaporwave music |
| 22:09 |
redblade7 |
it was taking forever to load until i reduced the quality |
| 22:09 |
Megaf |
How does that work redblade7 |
| 22:09 |
redblade7 |
because it downloads the whole disc every time you connect |
| 22:09 |
Megaf |
Oo |
| 22:09 |
redblade7 |
there's jukebox and a disc you put in |
| 22:09 |
redblade7 |
i changed it a bit so the song doesnt loop and there's only one disc |
| 22:09 |
redblade7 |
i make it christmas songs around christmastime |
| 22:09 |
redblade7 |
lemme find it |
| 22:10 |
redblade7 |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=13505 |
| 22:10 |
redblade7 |
it includes its own music |
| 22:10 |
redblade7 |
but it requires ogg mono |
| 22:11 |
IhrFussel |
96kbit/s OGG files? |
| 22:12 |
IhrFussel |
Or even 64 kbit/s? xP |
| 22:15 |
Megaf |
** Processing: mods/mesecons/mesecons_luacontroller/textures/jeija_luacontroller_burnt_top.png |
| 22:15 |
Megaf |
512x512 pixels, 4x8 bits/pixel, RGB+alpha |
| 22:15 |
Megaf |
Reducing image to 8 bits/pixel, 132 colors in palette |
| 22:16 |
Megaf |
512x512, HUGE |
| 22:16 |
Krock |
IhrFussel, if it's mono then the actual quality is higher than with a comparable stereo track |
| 22:16 |
Megaf |
** Processing: mods/mesecons/mesecons_materials/doc/glue/preview.png |
| 22:16 |
Megaf |
256x256 pixels, 4x8 bits/pixel, RGB+alpha |
| 22:16 |
Megaf |
Input IDAT size = 48321 bytes |
| 22:16 |
Megaf |
Input file size = 48478 bytes |
| 22:16 |
Megaf |
48 KB |
| 22:16 |
Megaf |
whoops, not a texture |
| 22:17 |
Megaf |
the problem is, when the texture is loaded in memory it is fully uncompressed and takes a lot of space |
| 22:17 |
Megaf |
an I have many textures |
| 22:18 |
Megaf |
$ find . | grep textures | grep -c png |
| 22:18 |
Megaf |
5073 |
| 22:18 |
Megaf |
That is only png files inside texture folders |
| 22:19 |
Megaf |
$ find . | grep -c init.lua |
| 22:19 |
Megaf |
248 |
| 22:19 |
Megaf |
:P |
| 22:20 |
Megaf |
redblade7: what is the range of this jukebox? |
| 22:21 |
Megaf |
Or it plays only for one player? |
| 22:21 |
redblade7 |
It's very big. I lower it a lot |
| 22:21 |
redblade7 |
This is hard to explain, but |
| 22:21 |
redblade7 |
if a player plays it, everyone that's on at the time will hear it |
| 22:21 |
redblade7 |
but if a player comes in later, they wont hear it |
| 22:22 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, is this mono? Sounds good @ 61 kbps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Yesterday.ogg |
| 22:22 |
redblade7 |
Go on Creative Gardens and visit Vaporwave Mall if you want to test it out |
| 22:22 |
Krock |
clearly stereo |
| 22:22 |
redblade7 |
there is one jukebox at one end, and one jukebox at the other |
| 22:22 |
redblade7 |
i have the range reduced a lot though |
| 22:22 |
redblade7 |
i can tell you the gain numbers and stuff, but i have to leave until later tonight |
| 22:23 |
IhrFussel |
How can stereo sound so well?? I remember 64 kbps terrible |
| 22:23 |
redblade7 |
if you go into the parking lot, you can hear the jukebox in the back of the mall, if you are in the desert in front of it, you get the picture |
| 22:23 |
redblade7 |
but i will tell you the exact gain i set up when i get home |
| 22:24 |
redblade7 |
check it out, creative gardens, vaporwave mall |
| 22:24 |
Krock |
IhrFussel, I only remember mp3 and aac sounding terrible sometimes with low bitrates. |
| 22:24 |
Krock |
ogg removes some of the fancy sounding details |
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redblade7 |
and i think it's only an init.lua i can send you |
| 22:24 |
Megaf |
well, good night |
| 22:25 |
redblade7 |
see you in a few hours |
| 22:37 |
redblade7 |
i have a few more minutes. who wanted my jukebox init.lua? |
| 22:37 |
redblade7 |
everything with "----" is the default commented out by me, with my replacement below it |
| 22:43 |
benrob0329 |
hmm, we need entity semitransparency |
| 22:43 |
benrob0329 |
there is even a PR for it |
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* Sokomine |
looks around if anyone would be willing to test house distribution |
| 22:57 |
Sokomine |
(not very likely to catch one here who'd complain about beeing "bored" i'm afraid :) still...doesn't take too much time) |
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paramat |
i want to test that |
| 23:13 |
paramat |
i tried your mod a while back but it didn't work |
| 23:13 |
paramat |
i'll try it again, i'm interested in how it copes with non-flat mapgens |
| 23:13 |
Sokomine |
that would be great! i'd love to have some feedback from you. but please take a look at first without looking at the code |
| 23:13 |
paramat |
will do |
| 23:14 |
Sokomine |
the approach is pretty simple but may fail in certain situations |
| 23:14 |
Sokomine |
ok :-) you'll need basic_houses (main mod), handle_schematics (contains the code for flat land detection and wood type selection) and plasterwork (optionally but recommended) |
| 23:15 |
paramat |
(btw i don't understand people with internet who say they're bored, it's impossible to run out of interesting things on the internet) |
| 23:15 |
Sokomine |
for mapgen...choose any and fly about. try with a normal mapgen first and then with a flat one for comparison |
| 23:16 |
Sokomine |
ah :-) young children sometimes say that. doesn't mean they'd be good testers. but if there's something to look at it doesn't help so much to pile more work on people who are already very busy. you are as well..but at least it's a topic you're very intrested in |
| 23:17 |
paramat |
works in MT 0.5? |
| 23:19 |
Sokomine |
very likely does. i test with 0.4.16 but that's only because i use that for connecting to servers |
| 23:20 |
Sokomine |
you need to fly around a bit until you find the first houses |
| 23:20 |
paramat |
yes. woohoo cute! |
| 23:23 |
Sokomine |
you'll eventually notice houses that are failures. there are a few known bugs which can hardly be prevented from happening. they don#t happen too often |
| 23:23 |
paramat |
lots of houses, and they completely respect the terrain too |
| 23:24 |
paramat |
impressive, i'm always interested in flat ground searching mods |
| 23:26 |
Sokomine |
the flat ground seraching works very well and is surprisingly simple |
| 23:26 |
paramat |
couple of 'undeclared globals' (i'm not using plasterwork yet) |
| 23:26 |
Sokomine |
it is also very convenient for placing ships. i'm still looking for good ships to place. basic_houses just places generated houses |
| 23:27 |
paramat |
sunken ships? |
| 23:27 |
Sokomine |
the plasterwork global is accessed and may show up as undeclared global. minetest.setting_ warnings spam my output so i didn't notice anything yet |
| 23:27 |
paramat |
i mean, surely searching for empty space in the sea is simple? |
| 23:27 |
Sokomine |
sunken ships would be fine. they could be done the same way houses on flat land are placed. takes someone capable who builds some first |
| 23:28 |
Sokomine |
placing ships already works pretty well. just takes nice ships and a way to determine how many to place. things on the bottom of the sea could also be done. and things floating inbetween |
| 23:30 |
Sokomine |
most players who build underwater stations do not necessarily create something that would be worth spawning. or their creations are good but far too big for random spawning |
| 23:33 |
paramat |
excellent mod, will test it more |
| 23:33 |
Sokomine |
thank you :-) |
| 23:34 |
Sokomine |
there are some factors you'll eventually spot. but i hope it's hidden well enough and will not destroy the feeling for normal users. the goal was to have lone houses and groups of them that form a village. more gets obvious on flat land |
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Fixer |
i have a nightmare, help me - is that texture rotation on slabs was merged into mtg so they look nice, right? |
| 23:41 |
Sokomine |
Fixer: er, yes, i think so. it matters for some slabs. for others texture rotation is of no relevance |
| 23:42 |
Fixer |
will check in singleplayer to make sure it is merged, playing on server with out of date MTG, placed some slabs in special patterns - ewww |
| 23:42 |
Sokomine |
no screwdriver available? |
| 23:43 |
Sokomine |
or mtg might really be too old |
| 23:46 |
Fixer |
Sokomine: there is, it just texture that looks like ----, does not connect properly |
| 23:48 |
Fixer |
Sokomine: checked newest mtg, it was merged yes, looks awesome |
| 23:48 |
Fixer |
really sad server owners often stay on some a n c i e n t subgames |
| 23:49 |
Sokomine |
sometimes difficult to them to move on to newer vesions |
| 23:51 |
Fixer |
new MTG is OCD friendly |
| 23:54 |
Shara |
Bots took the bait |
| 23:54 |
Shara |
Left RC open for an hour |
| 23:54 |
Shara |
Digital Ocean this time |
| 23:55 |
Shara |
They are now using names ending in numbers too |
| 23:56 |
Fixer |
;) |
| 23:58 |
red-001 |
shivajiva, huh how? |
| 23:59 |
Fixer |
shivajiva: don't forget to report that bug to mod creator |
| 23:59 |
red-001 |
if we are going to do so much off maybe we should move to an unlogged channel |
| 23:59 |
shivajiva |
place their tool in the shop and let them buy it for dirt |
