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Megaf |
good night all |
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Fixer |
https://i.imgur.com/BqXHfwV.png |
| 01:04 |
Fixer |
https://i.imgur.com/67RLlhq.png |
| 01:12 |
Shara |
Fixer: Underground light source now? |
| 01:13 |
Fixer |
low light sources |
| 01:13 |
Shara |
I assume from height you placed them? |
| 01:13 |
Fixer |
you can place them by hand |
| 01:13 |
Shara |
Of course |
| 01:13 |
Shara |
But you don't get the height then |
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Mr_Pardison |
well, cya tomorrow. |
| 01:13 |
Shara |
I just worried for amoment they might show up in caves |
| 01:14 |
Mr_Pardison |
pasta a lego peeps! |
| 01:14 |
Fixer |
Shara: i've placed them |
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Shara |
See you Mr P |
| 01:16 |
Fixer |
you can place them whatever you like https://i.imgur.com/eZzLc5j.png |
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Fixer |
gn |
| 01:17 |
Shara |
Yes, but direct against whatever you click |
| 01:18 |
Shara |
Looks like a constellation |
| 01:22 |
Fixer |
right |
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* tumeninodes |
has reworked the default_glass.png for my own purposes. While doing this, I remembered seeing a few videos where users comment on the default_glass_detail.png and they don't really care for it so, I have an idea to make it optional. |
| 01:55 |
tumeninodes |
But, my thoughts are in 2 areas. I can either A- simple put up a TP with this new default glass look, and no default glass detail or B- see if I can add it as a setting whether the glass detail is used or not, and open an issue or PR for it? Any thoughts? |
| 01:57 |
Shara |
Sadly I'd need to be more awake for thoughts. I think looking at your current PR was the last tiny bit of energy I have for the night :D |
| 01:59 |
tumeninodes |
: ) Go get some zzzzz's, and thank you for the comment, (will do) |
| 02:00 |
Shara |
Soon :) |
| 02:00 |
ThomasMonroe |
cya tumeninodes |
| 02:00 |
ThomasMonroe |
oops nvmd |
| 02:00 |
ThomasMonroe |
I saw the ) as I XD |
| 02:01 |
tumeninodes |
ha, I was thinking "where am I going?" |
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ThomasMonroe |
lol |
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ThomasMonroe |
paulm!?!!? |
| 02:04 |
ThomasMonroe |
I have a player with that name on LoS |
| 02:06 |
ThomasMonroe |
:/ |
| 02:07 |
ThomasMonroe |
what username are you using? |
| 02:10 |
ThomasMonroe |
ok |
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tumeninodes |
https://imgur.com/a/fNvPx |
| 02:37 |
tumeninodes |
!title |
| 02:37 |
MinetestBot |
tumeninodes: new default glass look? - Album on Imgur |
| 02:42 |
ThomasMonroe |
looks nice ;) |
| 02:43 |
tumeninodes |
thank you, I wanted to style it closely to the obsidian layout |
| 02:44 |
ThomasMonroe |
there might be a possible problem, as there would not be much difference then |
| 02:44 |
tumeninodes |
don;t get much diff than black n white my friend... ; ) |
| 02:45 |
ThomasMonroe |
true :D |
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tenplus1 |
hi folks |
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shivajiva |
Hiya tenplus |
| 10:20 |
tenplus1 |
hi shiva :) |
| 10:22 |
tenplus1 |
been watching Grizzly Adam on the forum, he's making some nice mods :) "Your Dad's BBQ Mod", and now "Your Dad's Smoking & Drinking" mod |
| 10:22 |
shivajiva |
lol |
| 10:23 |
tenplus1 |
https://github.com/Grizzly-Adam/BBQ |
| 10:31 |
Raven262 |
Hi ten, shivajiva |
| 10:31 |
tenplus1 |
hi raven |
| 10:33 |
shivajiva |
Hello Raven |
| 10:36 |
shivajiva |
that mod is quite extensive |
| 10:37 |
tenplus1 |
plenty of food items to craft and a bbq grill :P wait until his smoke * drink one appears |
| 10:44 |
shivajiva |
presumably it will effect player physics lol |
| 10:48 |
tenplus1 |
kinda wish it did... we still need player:set_velocity() to do anything |
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tenplus1 |
hi CWz |
| 10:55 |
CWz |
ello |
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* tenplus1 |
fires up the grill :P |
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tenplus1 |
hi fixer |
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| 12:17 |
Krock |
hi tenplus1 |
| 12:17 |
Krock |
WOOOOSHHH |
| 12:20 |
tenplus1 |
hey krock... |
| 12:20 |
* tenplus1 |
noms korean bbq beef :D |
| 12:20 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe |
| 12:20 |
tenplus1 |
hows things ? |
| 12:21 |
* tenplus1 |
wonders how long it'll take before minetest switches to Godot as engine |
| 12:23 |
sfan5 |
very long |
| 12:23 |
tenplus1 |
ehehehe, hi sfan |
| 12:26 |
tenplus1 |
it was a big news item today on tech sites... godot 3.0 |
| 12:29 |
Krock |
tenplus1, here? I'm fine .. trying to review some PRs and fetch the good reddit content |
| 12:29 |
tenplus1 |
ahh, good luck on both :) heh |
| 12:29 |
tenplus1 |
any interesting pr's for today ? |
| 12:30 |
Krock |
105 minus a few needing rebase, are stalling or too controversial |
| 12:30 |
tenplus1 |
o.O controversial ? which one's ? |
| 12:32 |
Krock |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3AControversial mainly latter one |
| 12:35 |
nerzhul |
Krock, ASIO rebase is not easy heh, i conflcit with my game refactor PR :p |
| 12:36 |
nerzhul |
Krock, i think we should find the float serialization solution ASAP |
| 12:37 |
Krock |
nerzhul, conflict? well, that's a self-built grave: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/023/397/C-658VsXoAo3ovC.jpg |
| 12:37 |
nerzhul |
heh :p |
| 12:39 |
Krock |
nerzhul, well here's a proposal for the float stuff: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/6312#issuecomment-339429303 |
| 12:39 |
Krock |
inb4 I have no clue how to unittest. stalled. |
| 12:47 |
nerzhul |
Krock, at least write and read it and ensure value is good on the same arch :p |
| 12:47 |
nerzhul |
(with a maximum of 0.05% error if possible |
| 12:49 |
tenplus1 |
back in a bit |
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| 13:34 |
RobbieF |
Hey all |
| 13:34 |
Mr-Pardison |
morning. |
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shivajiva |
Hi Robbie |
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| 13:44 |
IhrFussel |
WHAT THE HECK...why is my areas.dat file almost empty?? Corruption? |
| 13:45 |
sfan5 |
possible |
| 13:45 |
sfan5 |
what does "almost empty" mean though? |
| 13:45 |
IhrFussel |
There is 1 protection in it instead of thousands |
| 13:45 |
RobbieF |
yikes |
| 13:45 |
Mr-Pardison |
oh |
| 13:45 |
Mr-Pardison |
yeesh |
| 13:45 |
ThomasMonroe |
hiya RobbieF |
| 13:45 |
RobbieF |
\o |
| 13:45 |
Krock |
heads up, you didn't lose it all |
| 13:47 |
* RobbieF |
observes as Krock swoops in to save the day |
| 13:47 |
sfan5 |
IhrFussel: does the file look structurally intact? |
| 13:48 |
IhrFussel |
"return {{["owner"] = "Sheipai", ["pos2"] = {["y"] = 49, ["x"] = -8451, ["z"] = -6509}, ["name"] = "Shei Starter", ["pos1"] = {["y"] = 49, ["x"] = -8462, ["z"] = -6530}}}" |
| 13:48 |
* Krock |
wonders how RobbieF expects that Krock would save the day |
| 13:49 |
Krock |
IhrFussel, it probably failed before you noticed it. it left the file either empty or deleted it |
| 13:49 |
Krock |
I guess that record is just a new one that came in |
| 13:49 |
IhrFussel |
How can that happen?? I thought race conditions are not possible in mods |
| 13:50 |
sfan5 |
it's not a race condition |
| 13:50 |
sfan5 |
it's just writing to the file in an unsafe way |
| 13:50 |
sfan5 |
minetest recently gained a method to do this correctly |
| 13:50 |
RobbieF |
how's your backup? |
| 13:51 |
RobbieF |
now would be the time to restore and you can quickly protect that new one that came in |
| 13:51 |
Krock |
.. or just add it manually to the file |
| 13:51 |
RobbieF |
"Shei Starter" |
| 13:52 |
RobbieF |
Lots of risk for syntax error though |
| 13:52 |
RobbieF |
best to add in game unless you're absolutely certain of the syntax |
| 13:52 |
RobbieF |
it's a messy file to say the least. |
| 13:53 |
RobbieF |
especially if that user already has some areas |
| 13:53 |
RobbieF |
best to add the new area to the restored backup in game and then /change_owner |
| 13:53 |
RobbieF |
(safest) |
| 13:53 |
IhrFussel |
The last backup is from ~ 1 week ago...better than nothing I guess |
| 13:54 |
RobbieF |
not bad |
| 13:54 |
RobbieF |
could be worse, could be better :p |
| 13:54 |
RobbieF |
does your server use SSD's? |
| 13:55 |
IhrFussel |
Yes it's a SSD |
| 13:55 |
Krock |
rip data |
| 13:55 |
RobbieF |
So I'm wondering if it was a dirty shutdown while stuff was still in the buffer. |
| 13:55 |
RobbieF |
With SSD's make sure you "sudo sync" before shutdown |
| 13:55 |
IhrFussel |
Nope I restarted it 2 times earlier, but it was a proper shutdown |
| 13:55 |
sfan5 |
the kernel will do that |
| 13:55 |
sfan5 |
the same kind of truncation can happen with HDDs too |
| 13:55 |
RobbieF |
sfan5 only if a clean shutdown |
| 13:56 |
sfan5 |
of course |
| 13:56 |
RobbieF |
in event of a crash, it can lose data if you don't manually sync |
| 13:56 |
IhrFussel |
Or is killall minetestserver not a proper shutdown? |
| 13:56 |
sfan5 |
it's not |
| 13:56 |
RobbieF |
no |
| 13:56 |
RobbieF |
and if you do that and re-run the game before a sync, you can corrupt data |
| 13:56 |
RobbieF |
and even still, can corrupt data :p |
| 13:56 |
sfan5 |
the correct way to shutdown MT is killall -INT minetestserver |
| 13:57 |
RobbieF |
^^ ONLY if you run ONE MINETEST SERVER |
| 13:57 |
RobbieF |
incorrect if you run multiple |
| 13:57 |
RobbieF |
(use MTSA) |
| 13:57 |
IhrFussel |
But minetest catches the normal killall signal and seems to run all shutdown callbacks |
| 13:57 |
sfan5 |
let me check |
| 13:58 |
RobbieF |
MTSA's stop-minetest.sh command is how we do it. |
| 13:58 |
sfan5 |
indeed, you're right that is a clean shutdown |
| 13:58 |
IhrFussel |
I never had a problem with killall in almost 2 years...must've been very bad luck |
| 13:59 |
RobbieF |
Full moon? |
| 14:13 |
IhrFussel |
I'm getting really paranoid with MT now... I added a areas.dat backup copy to each server restart |
| 14:15 |
RobbieF |
make sure there's some intelligence there, otherwise if it is crashing in a loop, it'll just keep overwriting, even if the file is bad |
| 14:20 |
IhrFussel |
The backup didn't work at first...but after another server restart I see the protections now again |
| 14:21 |
RobbieF |
Great! |
| 14:22 |
IhrFussel |
Maybe the server was shutting down while someone tried to add a protection? Could that cause corruption? |
| 14:24 |
Krock |
generally everything that caused a crash while it was saving the stuff |
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| 14:25 |
RobbieF |
hypothetical, but let's say you "killed" the server while someone was saving a new area, and then your server reloaded... |
| 14:25 |
RobbieF |
hard to know for sure without detailed logs of the event. |
| 14:26 |
Krock |
yeah in theory it's possible but in reality you'll never have that "perfect" timing to kill it exactly then when it's writing |
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| 14:46 |
IhrFussel |
But it must've been during a write action since areas only touches the file then |
| 14:51 |
Megaf |
morning/day/evening |
| 14:52 |
Mr-Pardison |
morning. |
| 14:54 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2018-01-29 17:56:25: [Server] Teresa57 [146.66.10.244] joins game. |
| 14:54 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2018-01-29 17:56:25: [Server] Teresa57 joins game. List of players: Teresa57 |
| 14:54 |
Megaf |
heh |
| 14:54 |
Megaf |
I think people are attacking my server too |
| 14:55 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2018-01-28 17:33:01: [Server] Strength675 [187.190.160.56] joins game. |
| 14:55 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2018-01-28 23:06:38: [Server] Backbone383 [184.65.213.148] joins game. |
| 14:55 |
Megaf |
That's what I canll a waste of life, attacking Megaf Server... |
| 14:55 |
IhrFussel |
"how did you choose your name" "I typed it?" "oh" |
| 14:55 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2018-01-30 11:32:43: [Server] Allinder951 [188.49.200.213] joins game. |
| 14:56 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2018-01-30 06:37:52: [Server] Dyrstad750 [120.193.236.50] joins game. |
| 14:56 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2018-01-30 03:26:20: [Server] Rhynard935 [123.4.220.165] joins game. |
| 14:56 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2018-01-30 01:17:23: [Server] sallee [109.74.204.217] joins game. |
| 14:56 |
Megaf |
There |
| 14:56 |
Megaf |
that was the attack |
| 14:56 |
Megaf |
and IPs |
| 14:58 |
CWz |
are you sure it was an attack |
| 14:58 |
Megaf |
yep, can't you see the pattern in the nicknames? |
| 14:58 |
Megaf |
all in the same timfraframe |
| 14:58 |
Megaf |
timeframe* |
| 15:00 |
CWz |
there is a knockoff client somewhere that uses random usernames to give player nicknames |
| 15:00 |
CWz |
just like old guest |
| 15:01 |
Megaf |
well, mapsize still the same. My server is very slow in generating land and loading the world |
| 15:01 |
Megaf |
naturally immune to land gen attacks :P |
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| 15:12 |
RobbieF |
haha oh dear Megaf |
| 15:20 |
Megaf |
full disclosure. I'm a man. Lot's of people are nice to me because they think I'm a girl. Then they learn I'm a man and they never talk to me anymore. Happens on IRC pretty often, for some reson people think 'F' is for Female and not for... Well, I will leave that to your minds. |
| 15:21 |
Fuchs |
and there I always assumed you were an apache attack helicopter :( |
| 15:22 |
Mr-Pardison |
but I thought you were a toaster...... |
| 15:22 |
Megaf |
I never said I'm human... |
| 15:23 |
Mr-Pardison |
which is why I thought you were a toaster. |
| 15:23 |
Megaf |
So I'm shiny on the outside and warm inside? |
| 15:24 |
Fuchs |
jokes aside, I assume the issue is that your name looks close to Megan |
| 15:24 |
ThomasMonroe |
and smell like burnt bread? |
| 15:24 |
Megaf |
Fuchs: that too, been called Megan many times, even on this very channel |
| 15:24 |
* Megaf |
goes to grab some coffee, brbr |
| 15:25 |
Fuchs |
bring me one too, Megan |
| 15:25 |
* ThomasMonroe |
thinks its a little difficult to grab coffee |
| 15:25 |
ThomasMonroe |
Fuchs, LOL |
| 15:25 |
Mr-Pardison |
>.> |
| 15:26 |
* Megaf |
will have his coffee in a pint, very easy to grab a pint |
| 15:26 |
* Megaf |
throws some fresh French Stype coffee at Fuchs |
| 15:27 |
ThomasMonroe |
lol |
| 15:27 |
* Fuchs |
burns to crispfox |
| 15:27 |
Megaf |
Oo |
| 15:27 |
Megaf |
Fuchs: you are supposed to raise your glass and catch it |
| 15:28 |
* ThomasMonroe |
has a funeral for Fuchs |
| 15:28 |
Megaf |
RIP |
| 15:28 |
Megaf |
oh wait, he still alive |
| 15:28 |
Mr-Pardison |
he's burnt to a crispfox! |
| 15:28 |
ThomasMonroe |
the Toaster has toasted |
| 15:28 |
* Megaf |
reading wikipedia articles on Boeing AH-64 and RAH-66 |
| 15:28 |
Megaf |
let's see where they will lead me to today |
| 15:29 |
ThomasMonroe |
through the air, into another airport |
| 15:29 |
Mr-Pardison |
or some other landing place. |
| 15:29 |
ThomasMonroe |
preferably not suddenly XD |
| 15:33 |
Megaf |
Fuchs: by the way, you cant be burns to crispfox. First because is water |
| 15:34 |
Megaf |
second because my coffee is server around 86C |
| 15:34 |
Mr-Pardison |
so, just watered-down coffee. |
| 15:34 |
Mr-Pardison |
horrible. |
| 15:34 |
Megaf |
third because it would lose hit when traveling in the air |
| 15:34 |
Megaf |
Mr-Pardison: why do you assume is watered-down coffee? |
| 15:35 |
Mr-Pardison |
i do not assume. |
| 15:35 |
Mr-Pardison |
I guess. |
| 15:35 |
Megaf |
well, it isnt |
| 15:35 |
Megaf |
I make the best coffee in the world |
| 15:36 |
Megaf |
The coffee style I made today is this one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_press |
| 15:37 |
ThomasMonroe |
is there any support for #6374? |
| 15:37 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6374 -- Change default keybindings of camera, minimap, print stacks |
| 15:38 |
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| 15:38 |
ThomasMonroe |
hiya twoelk |
| 15:38 |
twoelk |
o/ |
| 15:38 |
twoelk |
\o |
| 15:39 |
Megaf |
Hi twoelk |
| 15:39 |
Megaf |
ThomasMonroe: usually I prefer having map on m or tab |
| 15:39 |
Mr-Pardison |
\o/ |
| 15:40 |
ThomasMonroe |
M is mute sound |
| 15:47 |
IhrFussel |
M is mute in 0.5.0-dev..in 0.4.16 it's "set volume to 0" |
| 15:48 |
ThomasMonroe |
XD |
| 15:48 |
IhrFussel |
Not sure if it got backported to 0.4.17 |
| 15:49 |
IhrFussel |
Let me check |
| 15:49 |
ThomasMonroe |
I believe those terms are synonymous |
| 15:50 |
IhrFussel |
Nope, still the same in 0.4.17 |
| 15:50 |
ThomasMonroe |
so TAB for minimap is fine? |
| 15:51 |
IhrFussel |
I think tab is only used in the chat for autocompletion of user names so sounds fine IMO |
| 15:55 |
Megaf |
well, autompletion is always broken.. |
| 15:55 |
Fixer |
"it's just writing to the file in an unsafe way" @ minetest in 2018 |
| 15:55 |
Fixer |
jhi |
| 16:00 |
Megaf |
Fixer: where that comes from? |
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| 16:13 |
tumeninodes |
quick repost https://imgur.com/a/fNvPx |
| 16:13 |
tumeninodes |
!title |
| 16:13 |
MinetestBot |
tumeninodes: new default glass look? - Album on Imgur |
| 16:13 |
tumeninodes |
wahzam |
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red-001 |
Megaf, how so? |
| 16:17 |
red-001 |
looks like "sallee" is in the list of names used by shitty mobile clients |
| 16:18 |
IhrFussel |
red-001, those clients usually add a number |
| 16:18 |
red-001 |
as is "Rhynard", "Dyrstad", "Allinder" and "Backbone" |
| 16:19 |
red-001 |
alright looks like all those names are used by the clients |
| 16:23 |
Megaf |
!tell paramat sorry mate. https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6076#issuecomment-361647751 |
| 16:23 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: I'll pass that on when paramat is around |
| 16:23 |
Megaf |
I need wine |
| 16:24 |
sfan5 |
apt-get install wine |
| 16:24 |
tumeninodes |
ha |
| 16:25 |
Megaf |
Aluminium:/ megaf$ apt-get install wine |
| 16:25 |
Megaf |
-bash: apt-get: command not found |
| 16:25 |
tumeninodes |
is that the cheap version of Chrome? Aluminium |
| 16:25 |
Mr-Pardison |
no. |
| 16:26 |
Mr-Pardison |
that's chromium. |
| 16:26 |
Megaf |
lol, cheap version |
| 16:26 |
tumeninodes |
chrominium |
| 16:26 |
Megaf |
chromium is superior to chome by the way |
| 16:26 |
tumeninodes |
people round my parts often use aluminium on their bumpers when the chrome rots off |
| 16:26 |
Megaf |
==> Searching local taps... |
| 16:26 |
Megaf |
twine-pypi wine winetricks winexe |
| 16:26 |
Megaf |
==> Searching taps on GitHub... |
| 16:26 |
Megaf |
caskroom/cask/wine-stable caskroom/versions/wine-devel caskroom/versions/wine-staging |
| 16:26 |
Megaf |
kool |
| 16:26 |
Megaf |
there is wine |
| 16:27 |
Megaf |
I can do a brew install caskroom/cask/wine-stable |
| 16:27 |
Megaf |
I wonder how well would that work |
| 16:27 |
Megaf |
Apologies if I flooded |
| 16:28 |
Megaf |
we need some support on #6975 |
| 16:28 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6975 -- [Feature request] Add ability to set mapgen vertical and horizontal limits separately. |
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MinetestBot |
paramat: Jan-30 16:23 UTC <Megaf> sorry mate. https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6076#issuecomment-361647751 |
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| 16:34 |
Megaf |
Hi paramat :D |
| 16:34 |
paramat |
hi, and no problem :) |
| 16:35 |
Megaf |
No I'm sorry if my elaborated reply doesn't make sense |
| 16:35 |
tumeninodes |
paramat, https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/2035 |
| 16:35 |
tumeninodes |
!title |
| 16:35 |
MinetestBot |
tumeninodes: add obsidian_pane by TumeniNodes · Pull Request #2035 · minetest/minetest_game · GitHub |
| 16:35 |
tumeninodes |
just thought I'd throw that at you while you're here :P |
| 16:37 |
Megaf |
tumeninodes: there's many other devs here you can bother. xP |
| 16:39 |
red-001 |
can someone remove WIP from #6982 and add "testing needed"? |
| 16:40 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6982 -- Make settings files per-world. by red-001 |
| 16:40 |
Megaf |
lol. I have twice as many messages here as the second most talktive person of January. http://www.xeroxirc.net:81/minetest-hub/history.php?cid=%23minetest-hub&year=2018&month=1 |
| 16:41 |
Mr-Pardison |
hey! |
| 16:41 |
Megaf |
red-001: I didn't test the issue. Tho I do agree is a very welcome chage. |
| 16:41 |
Mr-Pardison |
I made it on the list of afternoon talkers. |
| 16:41 |
Mr-Pardison |
cool. |
| 16:41 |
Fixer |
tumeninodes: -1 for new look, clear obsidian is good for many applications |
| 16:41 |
Megaf |
red-001: Please, do re re re review your code, Try seeing thigns from different perspective. The idea is awesome already. |
| 16:41 |
* red-001 |
wonders what the bot is called |
| 16:41 |
Megaf |
Mr-Pardison: hah, cool |
| 16:41 |
red-001 |
Megaf, only so much I can think of testing |
| 16:42 |
red-001 |
settings are surprisingly complex |
| 16:42 |
tumeninodes |
Fixer, I should have left the obsidian glass out of that shot. I was playing around with the glass_detail.pngs |
| 16:43 |
Megaf |
Mr-Pardison: just for January tho :P |
| 16:43 |
Mr-Pardison |
ik. |
| 16:43 |
tumeninodes |
the focus is the default glass, my bad sorry |
| 16:43 |
Megaf |
Here is for all time http://www.xeroxirc.net:81/minetest-hub/ |
| 16:44 |
tumeninodes |
I am also thinking if I should simply supply a sep default TP without glass detail or, make using glass detail optional via settings |
| 16:44 |
red-001 |
finding bugs is dealing with unknown unknowns |
| 16:44 |
tumeninodes |
seems quite a few people do not care for the look of glass_detail |
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| 16:46 |
sofar |
tumeninodes: one of the problems is alpha sorting |
| 16:46 |
sofar |
without that solved, it's going to remain looking inferior imho |
| 16:48 |
tumeninodes |
sofar, true.. but with the current texture it just adds to the glitchy appearance |
| 16:49 |
Megaf |
Ok, about chatting here. I just have decided that I will start writing in longer sentences, with proper puntuation. Hitting enter key less often. This way, the boat that is logging this channel, will consider my nick more "fluent". :) |
| 16:49 |
sofar |
Megaf: a noble effort. The world will be a better place! |
| 16:50 |
tumeninodes |
I honestly recommend removing the glass_detail altogether |
| 16:51 |
Megaf |
sofar: I totally agree with you (insert sarcasm here). The world need more fluent (as the boat defines it) to keep spinning and getting better. So we all can have a better life. |
| 16:51 |
Fixer |
heh, Nemo on JT2 made a weather mod that can place snow on lower slabs |
| 16:51 |
sofar |
well, I! for one! will be using! more exclamation! marks! |
| 16:51 |
Mr-Pardison |
shocking! |
| 16:52 |
sofar |
since! apparently! that is a useful! metric! |
| 16:52 |
Megaf |
Oh! No! sofar! |
| 16:52 |
Megaf |
Exclamations887 Total |
| 16:52 |
Megaf |
TotalUserExample |
| 16:52 |
Megaf |
1181MegafMinetestBot! |
| 16:52 |
Megaf |
772rubenwardyyes! |
| 16:52 |
tumeninodes |
!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 16:53 |
tumeninodes |
^pure genius |
| 16:53 |
* Mr-Pardison |
sighs and goes back to conducting overwatch on other channels |
| 16:55 |
Fixer |
is not this nice? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=15334&start=1275#p309878 |
| 16:56 |
red-001 |
!title |
| 16:56 |
MinetestBot |
red-001: [Server] Just Test Tribute (100 Years) - Minetest Forums |
| 16:57 |
Mr-Pardison |
loks nice. |
| 16:57 |
* Megaf |
clicks :) |
| 16:58 |
Megaf |
the snowfall there does indeed look quite good I would say. |
| 16:58 |
Mr-Pardison |
*looks |
| 17:00 |
Megaf |
the snowfall there does indeed looks quite good I would say. |
| 17:01 |
* Megaf |
actually apreaciates getting correct for grammar and spelling. |
| 17:01 |
Megaf |
sometimes though ^ I jus typo |
| 17:01 |
Megaf |
no need to correct typos |
| 17:02 |
Megaf |
paramat: I really don't know what to make of #6984 |
| 17:02 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6984 -- Allow entities to be active outside the set 'mapgen limit' |
| 17:07 |
* Sokomine |
confiscates sofars exclamation marks and disposes of them in a black hole created by thousands of chests filled with cobble |
| 17:08 |
* Mr-Pardison |
steals the chests and uses the cobble in his auto-crafters |
| 17:08 |
sofar |
Sokomine: here's my sarcasm too, at least for today. |
| 17:09 |
shivajiva |
lol |
| 17:10 |
Sokomine |
fixer: my moresnow mod places snow not only on slabs but also on stairs and fences and the like. even on nodeboxes in general (they receive a snow cover at the bottom of the node). from the screenshots i've seen about jt2 it looks similar |
| 17:10 |
Sokomine |
sofar: :-) |
| 17:11 |
Sokomine |
at least there was rescue for you, sofar. looks bad for tumeninodes i'm afraid.... |
| 17:11 |
paramat |
red, done |
| 17:11 |
sofar |
without my sarcasm I can't come up with a meaningful response to that |
| 17:12 |
sofar |
ah, snap, I had some left after all :) |
| 17:12 |
* Megaf |
will add Sokomine's snow to his server |
| 17:12 |
Sokomine |
*g* |
| 17:13 |
paramat |
glass shine as an option on 1 node is too complex, best to just add a new node 'clear glass' |
| 17:13 |
Fixer |
Sokomine: nice |
| 17:14 |
Megaf |
Sokomine: is it moresnow the name? |
| 17:15 |
Megaf |
minetest Platinum:~/MegafServer/mods$ git clone --depth=1 https://github.com/Sokomine/moresnow |
| 17:15 |
Megaf |
fatal: destination path 'moresnow' already exists and is not an empty directory. |
| 17:15 |
Megaf |
:P |
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| 17:21 |
Sokomine |
yes, moresnow |
| 17:23 |
Megaf |
I've never seen snow snowing tho |
| 17:23 |
Megaf |
nor rain |
| 17:23 |
Megaf |
in my server |
| 17:23 |
tumeninodes |
paramat: so, you want to add an entirely new node for default_clear/or clean_glass? If so it means to add also the same for xpanes, as well as a new clear/clean glass door. I mean heck, more nodes? I'm all for it but not sure if it would meet resistance |
| 17:23 |
Fixer |
Krock: some say recent carts have some problems |
| 17:24 |
Fixer |
Nemo also added slight wind sound, i like this, MTG is for no sound people |
| 17:26 |
paramat |
tumeninodes i don't want to, i'm saying that is much simpler and preferable to adding an optional shine |
| 17:29 |
Sokomine |
Megaf: it is spawned at mapgen time if you have mg_villages installed. else take a handy snowball and throw it at the target node (i.e. a stair) |
| 17:30 |
* Megaf |
begins watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtVHWKOA6Zo |
| 17:30 |
Megaf |
!title |
| 17:30 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Building The Ultimate Spacecraft (Full Engineering Documentary) | Spark - YouTube |
| 17:30 |
Megaf |
Should be studying algebra and java though |
| 17:32 |
Fixer |
is oerkki a ghost? |
| 17:32 |
tumeninodes |
paramat, meh so let's just leave that whole topic for a later date then, it's not a do or die thing, just something to consider an option for both the "with and without" sides eventually |
| 17:33 |
tumeninodes |
optional glass detail would be the matter of a few lines of code, no additional nodes, just some crafty overlay play |
| 17:34 |
tumeninodes |
btw, new glass pane side done ; ) looks ok I guess |
| 17:35 |
Megaf |
!seen jeija |
| 17:35 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: jeija was last seen at 2016-10-10 07:47:56 UTC on #minetest |
| 17:36 |
Megaf |
I wonder if this mod still good today |
| 17:36 |
Megaf |
https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-weather |
| 17:36 |
Megaf |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=5245 |
| 17:36 |
tumeninodes |
jeija has not been around in quite some time |
| 17:37 |
Krock |
Fixer, what issues? report quickly |
| 17:37 |
Fixer |
Krock: not sure, IHR had and some other guy |
| 17:38 |
Krock |
Megaf, I believe he's busy with real life but I'm sure you could email him if it's important |
| 17:38 |
IhrFussel |
The carts mod from MTG is indeed very buggy when turning or going up/down hill |
| 17:39 |
IhrFussel |
So I switched to boost_cart which works a lot better |
| 17:40 |
Mr-Pardison |
oh yeah. |
| 17:41 |
IhrFussel |
Not sure how carts manages to trap the player in an endless loop resetting their position on every step or so |
| 17:42 |
red-001 |
ty paramat |
| 17:42 |
Megaf |
Anyone using this? https://github.com/minetest-mods/mymonths |
| 17:42 |
IhrFussel |
Megaf, I use weather_pack + lightning as weather mods and they work very well |
| 17:43 |
IhrFussel |
I just had to reduce the amount of particles since the mod was originally designed for SP |
| 17:45 |
Fixer |
IhrFussel: don't forget to post a bug about carts, we don't want some breaking bug in 0.5.0 breaking bad |
| 17:45 |
Krock |
the MTG model also needs tweaking. the rail is visible uphill |
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| 17:46 |
IhrFussel |
Fixer, I didn't test if it still happens in 0.5.0-dev...one sec |
| 17:47 |
Fixer |
IhrFussel: yes, make sure to check latest git code |
| 17:47 |
Megaf |
!mod weather_pack |
| 17:47 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: weather_pack 0.3 by xeranas - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=14539 |
| 17:47 |
Fixer |
maybe it is fixed |
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| 17:51 |
Megaf |
IhrFussel: just added weather_pack and lighting |
| 17:52 |
Megaf |
that with ambience must give a nice atmosphere |
| 17:52 |
Megaf |
and fireflies :) |
| 17:56 |
IhrFussel |
Fixer, still seems to happen but is pretty inconsistent |
| 17:56 |
Fixer |
please post a bugreport |
| 17:57 |
Fixer |
"Increasing rendering speed dramatically ? (New posts)" |
| 17:58 |
Fixer |
d r a m a t i c a l l y (sorry, can't resist) |
| 18:00 |
red-001 |
ｄｒï½ï½ï½ï½”ｉｃï½ï½Œï½Œï½™ |
| 18:03 |
Krock |
ï½ï½…ｓｔｈｅｔｉｃｓ　ｉｎｔｅｎｓｉｆｙ |
| 18:09 |
red-001 |
ï½ ï½… ｓ ï½” ｈ ï½… ï½” ｉ ｃ ｓ 　ｉ ｎ ï½” ï½… ｎ ｓ ｉ ｆ ï½™ |
| 18:10 |
Megaf |
I had found in the past a very nice website to write nice stuff in UTF-8 and paste here. But I totally lost that site, so I can't write nicely here anymore |
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| 18:10 |
Calinou |
https://textfac.es/ |
| 18:11 |
Calinou |
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) the memes have been doubled |
| 18:11 |
* red-001 |
¯_(ツ)_/¯ |
| 18:11 |
Megaf |
!seen barsik |
| 18:11 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Sorry, I haven't seen barsik around. |
| 18:11 |
red-001 |
( ͡°( ͡° ͜ʖ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ʖ ͡°) ͡°) |
| 18:12 |
Krock |
that page loads a just a bit faster than the M$ download center after the Exploit in 2014 |
| 18:12 |
Megaf |
"You’ve just been upgraded to Firefox Nightly 60!" |
| 18:12 |
Megaf |
you don't say |
| 18:13 |
Krock |
Megaf, literally. You're firefox now. |
| 18:14 |
Megaf |
Firetiger maybe |
| 18:16 |
Krock |
ლ,ᔑ(Í¡ ͡° Íœ 㤠͡͡°)á”.ლ |
| 18:19 |
Fixer |
Calinou: Samsung 850Pro still good these days? |
| 18:19 |
Megaf |
must be better than what I have |
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| 18:28 |
Calinou |
Fixer: the 860 Pro was released recently. That said, the 850 Pro is still a valid option if you can find it at a good price, or even the 850 EVO |
| 18:28 |
Calinou |
I'm still on my 850 EVO :) |
| 18:28 |
Fixer |
Calinou: price on 850Pro went down a bit |
| 18:28 |
Fixer |
to $140 or so for 256gb |
| 18:29 |
Calinou |
sounds expensive |
| 18:29 |
Calinou |
I'm used to the EVO prices though now |
| 18:29 |
Calinou |
you probably should get a 850 EVO unless you write 100+ GB a day :) |
| 18:29 |
Fixer |
it was $250 in 2015, it is $140 now, seems good for me |
| 18:29 |
Fixer |
i want it to last long |
| 18:30 |
Fixer |
Calinou: i did some calculations, it seems I write about 100GB per 24 hr of operation |
| 18:31 |
Fixer |
850Pro has 150Tb, but from what I know, it lasts muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch longer |
| 18:31 |
Fixer |
obviously my PC does not work full time |
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| 18:34 |
Fixer |
Calinou: interestingly 860Pro has 300Tb of endurance |
| 18:39 |
Calinou |
Fixer: the 850 EVO is enough for all "home" use cases, really |
| 18:39 |
Calinou |
you're not hosting a PostgreSQL server with dozens of GBs of writes a day, are you? :) |
| 18:40 |
Fixer |
Calinou: funnily I have a RSS reader that writes 600 mb of data per each hiding into systray.... |
| 18:41 |
Fixer |
now thats Sad! |
| 18:41 |
Fixer |
called QuiteRSS |
| 18:42 |
Calinou |
just use ttrss hosted on a VPS :P |
| 18:42 |
Calinou |
that's what I have |
| 18:42 |
Fixer |
it has an option to disable this exsessive writing to disk though, suitable for SSD |
| 18:42 |
Fixer |
Calinou: i'm conservative in this regard, if I buy it, it expect it to work 10+ years |
| 18:43 |
Fixer |
not like this HD6870 that dies just before 5 years of use, not cool ATI |
| 19:05 |
* Megaf |
waiting for quassel-client to receive the backlog |
| 19:05 |
Megaf |
There, |
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| 19:25 |
Megaf |
wb Mr-Pardison |
| 19:25 |
Mr-Pardison |
ty Megaf |
| 19:25 |
Mr-Pardison |
*T.Hanks |
| 19:25 |
Megaf |
One nice thing about my college is that we stay in the same class and the lecturers that come to us. |
| 19:25 |
Mr-Pardison |
that is nice. |
| 19:26 |
Megaf |
The negative side of that is there is a lot less invetarction between students from different classes. Although that is achieved with extra class activities like football, yoga, mindfulness and parties. |
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* tumeninodes |
wishes github web interface just had a nice, simple "revert" button :P |
| 19:33 |
tumeninodes |
and yes... I am "one of those guys" |
| 19:34 |
Mr-Pardison |
who prefers hot chocolate over coffee? |
| 19:36 |
tumeninodes |
sometimes |
| 19:42 |
Megaf |
Mr-Pardison: I like both a lot |
| 19:42 |
Mr-Pardison |
I don't like coffee. too bitter for me. |
| 19:42 |
Megaf |
specially the ones made by my ex =/ |
| 19:42 |
Megaf |
My coffee is amazing tho |
| 19:42 |
Megaf |
I mean, if you like pure coffee |
| 19:42 |
Megaf |
and real coffee |
| 19:44 |
Megaf |
Don't /whois me |
| 19:45 |
Fixer |
hmmmm |
| 19:45 |
Fixer |
"my horse is amazing" |
| 19:46 |
Megaf |
"look at my horse" |
| 19:54 |
Fixer |
released by Weebls-Stuff in late 2009 |
| 20:02 |
paramat |
phew just finished github management, it takes several hours each day, amazing |
| 20:02 |
Krock |
Megaf, * me :No such nick/channel |
| 20:02 |
paramat |
that's before i get a chance to actually work on anything or even review anyhthing |
| 20:02 |
paramat |
*anything |
| 20:02 |
* paramat |
works too hard |
| 20:02 |
Shara |
There is a surprising amount to read. |
| 20:05 |
Sokomine |
paramat: with all those issues it's no wonder. thanks for all the work |
| 20:05 |
* Sokomine |
takes one of megafs strange coffee cups and hands one to paramat |
| 20:06 |
Mr-Pardison |
Sokomine: not enough. |
| 20:07 |
Mr-Pardison |
paramat needs at least 1 day of R & R |
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Sokomine |
r&r? |
| 20:15 |
rubenwardy |
rest & recreation I think |
| 20:15 |
Sokomine |
aah |
| 20:15 |
rubenwardy |
from Murica, iirc |
| 20:15 |
Sokomine |
yes. hm. i'm afraid we'll have to put him elsewhere and not in a nice mt world... |
| 20:28 |
Megaf |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15ELDwSIUEc |
| 20:28 |
Megaf |
!title |
| 20:28 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Gen2 Formula E Car From Every Angle - YouTube |
| 20:28 |
Megaf |
That is gorgeous |
| 20:29 |
Megaf |
!title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TypQX-Jx0hI |
| 20:29 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Gen2 Formula E Car Unveiled - YouTube |
| 20:40 |
tumeninodes |
"it's such a trivial, easy peasy PR... how hard could it be?" .... said I : / |
| 20:41 |
IhrFussel |
Di 30. Jan 18:17:46 CET 2018 -> 18207 MB |
| 20:41 |
IhrFussel |
<IhrFussel> Di 30. Jan 18:47:46 CET 2018 -> 18237 MB |
| 20:41 |
IhrFussel |
Suspicious jump in map size |
| 20:41 |
IhrFussel |
30 MB in 30 minutes is a lot |
| 20:42 |
tumeninodes |
paramat: "works too hard"... especially when tumeninodes gets an idea :D |
| 20:44 |
tumeninodes |
I shoulda kept obsidian panes to myself and enjoyed them in all their imperfect glory :P hahaha |
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| 20:45 |
ThomasMonroe |
wb paramat |
| 20:47 |
tumeninodes |
afk briefly |
| 20:49 |
IhrFussel |
Guys is 1 MB map increase per minute resasonable? |
| 20:49 |
IhrFussel |
reasonable* |
| 20:49 |
ThomasMonroe |
depends on how many players are exploring or not |
| 20:49 |
nore |
IhrFussel: in case of constant map generation, it is quite normal |
| 20:50 |
ThomasMonroe |
I know I tend to just head in a general direction and most of the time come across un-generated land |
| 20:50 |
IhrFussel |
Not sure how many players were online at that time but that seems a lot...isn't 1 MB like hundreds of mapblocks? |
| 20:51 |
ThomasMonroe |
maybe? |
| 20:51 |
nore |
well, one uncompressed mapblock without metadata is 16KB |
| 20:51 |
nore |
so 1MB is like 8 uncompressed mapblocks |
| 20:52 |
nore |
hmmm, and I forgot a couple other things |
| 20:52 |
IhrFussel |
But the mapblocks are saved compressed right? So 64 mapblocks per MB |
| 20:53 |
IhrFussel |
Maybe not that much after all |
| 20:54 |
IhrFussel |
But 64 mapblocks straight for 30 minutes ... or in some minutes less in other more |
| 20:54 |
IhrFussel |
Also depends on view range I guess |
| 20:55 |
nore |
well, one player can easily explore a mapchunk = 125 mapblocks in a minute, soooo |
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| 20:58 |
Fixer |
IhrFussel: do a test, start a world, walk straight for 10 minutes, ???????????, calculate! |
| 20:58 |
IhrFussel |
Well I had 29 players connected at some point... I just don't know if it was back then |
| 20:59 |
IhrFussel |
But those "zombie players" one of my moderators calls them are real...they do it on quite a few other servers as well |
| 21:00 |
Megaf |
IhrFussel: how were those weitd players floating around called again? |
| 21:01 |
IhrFussel |
I didn't see any names for them...some call them bots, others scripts...ans very few still refuse to believe it and think they just have a bad network connection |
| 21:02 |
IhrFussel |
Oh you mean that one name? sallee? |
| 21:03 |
IhrFussel |
And Shara can tell you more names she had on her server doing their thing |
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Mr-Pardison |
well, have to go now. |
| 21:03 |
Mr-Pardison |
as usual, nice chatting with y'all |
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Calinou |
IhrFussel: that's 1.44 GB per day |
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IhrFussel |
Calinou, well if it's just sometimes then it's okay I guess? Like I said it could've been the huge wave of new players exploring...will watch the logs |
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Krock |
that's 1024 floppies per day |
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Sokomine |
tumeninodes: hm. perhaps i ought to add colored glass panes to plasterwork. just...takes a suitable texture to get things painted... |
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Shara |
coloured glass doesn't really need texture to work well |
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Sokomine |
the normal glass pane is not suitable for that. doesn't look good if it's just a strip of white and the rest transparent. it's best if more or less the entire pane bears the color |
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Shara |
https://github.com/Ezhh/abriglass |
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Sokomine |
there are some mods that add those already. but all it takes with hardware coloring is that one texture plus a way to get them |
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Fixer |
"zombie players" |
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Fixer |
I want to believe |
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Fixer |
if you mean those who fly in step-like motion, i've already seen them on hometown yesterday |
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Mr_Pardison |
back but idk for how long. |
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tumeninodes |
Sokomine: why not? although so many mods out there add glass nodes now. I guess it is up to whether you feel like doing it or not. |
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tumeninodes |
although, since plasterwork blocks end up with a slight texture to them... maybe the glass could as well. almost like a rough glass? |
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tumeninodes |
I can't think of the exact name of the type of glass I am thinking of |
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tumeninodes |
I'm telling ya, I could make a PR to add a . in a line of code and make a proper mess of it :P |
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tumeninodes |
sofar: it seems Irrlicht is not alone with alpha sorting issues... Unity has it too |
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Fixer |
IhrFussel: by simple walking i've achieved 2.5mb/min map growth, so your case is totally fine |
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Fixer |
2,5 mb/min |
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Fixer |
* |
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