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00:32 Fixer Holy ----, read this https://www.atariarchives.org/bcc1/pages/page83.gif / It is like 2018, but in 1976...
00:56 IhrFussel Is there a way to say "you may talk about religions but don't start any religion wars"?
00:56 IhrFussel In 1 or 2 words?
00:57 red-001 don't reform
00:57 red-001 sorry couldn't avoid making that joke
00:57 red-001 IhrFussel, keep the discussion civil
00:57 rubenwardy "No dicks"
00:59 red-001 IhrFussel, honestly the easiest way is to just avoid the topic in the first place
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01:00 paramat yes
01:01 paramat 'in 1 or 2 words' lol
01:08 Megaf Hi folks
01:09 Megaf !server Megaf
01:09 MinetestBot Megaf: No results
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01:12 benrob0329 sofar: set cinematic mode's smoothing to 1
01:12 benrob0329 It does wondersbfor the shakyness
01:12 benrob0329 I can actually pan now
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02:19 roben1430 #illuna
02:19 roben1430 oops
02:19 * roben1430 searches for music
02:19 roben1430 this always takes forever
02:20 * Megaf just reinstalled the whole graphical stack on his MacBook Pro
02:20 roben1430 ouch
02:20 Megaf removed LXDE, GNOME, OpenBox and X11 and everything
02:21 Megaf Installed MATE instead
02:21 Megaf worth it
02:21 roben1430 thats almost as painful as listening to the first 30 seconds of hundreds of songs to find juust the right one for a video
02:22 Megaf the worst part was that I accdentally removed network-manager, and then WIFI connection dropped
02:22 roben1430 "this one sounds neat, but its not right"
02:22 Megaf and boom, no connection, no X11, no graphical stack
02:22 roben1430 heh
02:22 roben1430 wpa_supplicant ftw
02:22 Megaf So I just found a LAN cable, plugged into the router, and installed wicd-curses. Problem solved :)
02:22 roben1430 or setting networkmanager to be manually installed
02:23 roben1430 then removing gnome
02:23 Megaf I removed gtk*, so network-manager was gone because of dependencie
02:23 roben1430 oh
02:23 Megaf I said, whole network stack :)
02:23 Megaf I mean
02:23 Megaf graphical
02:24 Megaf it was fun
02:24 Megaf (not really)
02:25 roben1430 this might work: http://incompetech.com/music/royalty-free/mp3-royaltyfree/Ascending%20the%20Vale.mp3
02:26 Megaf Im actually listening to these guys right now https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEioEoqyFPsOiW8CepDaYg
02:26 Megaf royality free too
02:27 roben1430 too normal sounding :^)
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02:27 roben1430 like, I don't want my music to sound like every other music, which is why I don't tend to use Kevin's popular tracks
02:31 Megaf Yep, I know the feeling
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02:54 roben1430 o/ ThomasMonroe, EvergreenTree
02:54 ThomasMonroe hello roben1430
02:54 EvergreenTree o/
02:55 ThomasMonroe hiya EvergreenTree
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05:37 roben1430 You know, there is something relaxing about editing a cinematic
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12:16 cx384 hi Krock!
12:16 Krock hi cx384
12:16 cx384 *wb
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13:10 * red-001 wonders when all issues start getting marked as non-trivial
13:13 Shara red-001: don't give them ideas :)
13:14 Shara Also hi everyone
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13:33 cx384 hi Shara
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13:50 Megaf Good day all
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14:09 Fixer Falcon 9 launch.mp4 - 21.06.2010, was not thinking that was like 8 years ago already...
14:17 Megaf Speaking of it. ZUMA, meh,
14:17 Megaf that classified payload
14:17 Megaf I said it was going to the ISS
14:17 Megaf they first said it crashed, the military said
14:17 Megaf SpaceX said, it didn' t, it's just fine
14:18 Megaf I say, they deployed the payload to teh ISS, and mishion is completed :P
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14:18 Megaf Don't you agree aerozoic?
14:18 aerozoic lol wut?
14:19 aerozoic I agree everybody should go flying!
14:20 Megaf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCxQ3hYHrZk
14:20 Megaf !title
14:20 MinetestBot Megaf: Science vs Cinema: THE MARTIAN - YouTube
14:20 Megaf watching that, pletty cool
14:20 red-001 people complaining about offtopic incoming
14:22 Megaf Today I woke up kinda inspired, to finally get back to cycling and go for a long bike ride
14:22 Megaf then I looked out of the window, dark sky, cold, wet
14:23 Megaf I guess I will stay home today. Will just work out a bit and work on my server
14:23 Megaf Speaking of my server, I wonder if it is back from  the clearobjects
14:23 Megaf !server Megaf
14:23 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server V4.17 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/8, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.17-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 10ms
14:23 Megaf there we are
14:32 Megaf rubenwardy: Does KimSufi have auto renewal?
14:38 Megaf !server Red
14:38 MinetestBot Megaf: UGX Realms (AMHI Inspired remake) | 69.195.136.26:33151 | Clients: 1/30, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.16 / UGXrealms | Ping: 114ms
14:38 Megaf !server Cat
14:38 MinetestBot Megaf: leo-cat100-server | 92.26.161.69 | Clients: 5/25, 1/5 | Version: 0.4.16-dev / minetest | Ping: 73ms
14:38 red-001 !server blue
14:38 MinetestBot red-001: The Blue Lagoon | 145.239.78.1:31009 | Clients: 3/20, 1/4 | Version: 0.4.17-dev / minetest | Ping: 11ms
14:39 Megaf hum
14:39 Megaf classic
14:39 Megaf that's a server I might visit
14:39 Megaf !server Mars
14:39 MinetestBot Megaf: Regulus: A Mars Server | minetest.silano-consulting.com:30001 | Clients: 1/20, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.16 / MyStuff | Ping: 104ms
14:39 Megaf that too
14:39 Megaf !server venus
14:39 MinetestBot Megaf: No results
14:39 Megaf !server netptune
14:39 MinetestBot Megaf: No results
14:40 Megaf eh
14:40 Megaf !server red-001
14:40 MinetestBot Megaf: No results
14:40 Megaf red-001: What's your server name?
14:40 red-001 don't have one?
14:41 Megaf oh
14:41 red-001 lol
14:41 Megaf Want to have one?
14:41 Megaf Megaf Server for sale
14:41 Megaf for just 200.000,00 USD
14:41 red-001 tried a few times but I don't really have a good idea about what to do with a server
14:42 red-001 and there is already more servers then players
14:42 Megaf maybe,
14:42 Megaf Well, brb, lets see if the new kernel will work
14:43 * red-001 pretends the . is decimal seperator
14:43 * red-001 pretends the . is the* decimal seperator
14:43 Shara Unless you have an idea for something that's a bit different, it's probably not worth running a server unless it's something you honestly enjoy
14:44 Jordach noot noot
14:47 Shara I only opened Dark Lands because no one else had done the "darkness actually kills you" thing on a server
14:47 Shara (plus I wanted a survival server to test and make mods for)
14:48 Megaf Hey Jordach, Hi Shara
14:49 red-001 "minetesthosting.com:310342/4 2/20.4.14, minetestJOIN NO RULESI DON'T CARE ANY MOREDmg PvP20m / 46d118 / 100
14:49 red-001 "
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14:57 Megaf The mars server is actually interesting
15:00 Megaf lol, UTF-8 is broken again on Minetest
15:01 Megaf if I try to write Olá in the chat I get (<nvalid string>
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15:58 Fixer *,,,,,*
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16:06 * cx384 can't join on the capture the flag server with his name :(
16:08 Shara Question: if you set mapgen_limit to a certain amount, do entities get auto-removed from mapblocks that were previously generated but are now outside the limit?
16:10 Krock yes, at least they should
16:10 Shara Krock: that's bad
16:10 Shara Is there any way at all to prevent it?
16:10 Krock increase the limit
16:10 Shara That's not helpful
16:11 Shara After all the trouble my server has had (no idea if you have been following), I want to be able to set mapgen_limit LOW and keep previously generated mapblocks.
16:11 Shara But it's no good if the result is signs are destroyed there
16:11 Megaf Shara: ansewring you question, no, I think they will stay there
16:12 Krock moreover, players will be teleported to spawn if they left the game outside that area
16:12 Shara Megaf: I ran a test of the "fixed" map with mapgen_limit... my signs are all losing text
16:12 Megaf mapgen_limit will also leave generated things there
16:12 Megaf maybe you wont be able to go there
16:12 Megaf tho dont take my word, test
16:12 Shara Megaf: I have tested
16:12 Shara mapblock stay, but entities are getting removed
16:12 Megaf from what I see it just limits the mapgen, nothing more
16:12 Megaf oh, good
16:13 Shara 2018-01-27 17:06:01: INFO[Server]: Remove SAO 2834(signs:text), outside of limits
16:13 Shara Messages like this
16:13 Megaf thats new
16:13 Shara It's not good, because I need the entities to stay as well
16:13 Megaf "new"
16:13 Jordach Shara: set map limits
16:13 Jordach run mtmapper
16:13 Jordach then find the best squared shape you can limit the world to
16:13 Krock or make a PR to add yet another setting
16:13 Shara Jordach: not helpful
16:14 Shara I have totally different requirements for x/z axis than for y
16:14 Krock Jordach, you can only limit the map in all 3 dimensions starting from 0,0,0
16:15 Megaf ^
16:15 Krock two-edge based limits would however make that possible
16:15 Megaf limiting mapgen seems like a quick alternative to clearobjects
16:15 Shara And given what happened, I really wanted to stop any new mapblocks for now, while keeping the current ones
16:15 Shara Megaf: limiting mapgen is meant to be a way to keep map size somewhat under control
16:16 Shara I don't understand why entities have been tied into it
16:16 Megaf yep, but since it keeps already generated mapblocks and clear entities, it could be used as a quick hack
16:16 Shara I need to be able to impose these limits to prevent whatever happened to my map happening again
16:16 shivajiva seems a bit daft considering this is minetest, y axis needs to be separate as we get more mining depth than surface coverage most of the time
16:16 Jordach welcome to minetest
16:16 Shara But if I impose these limits, I break existing mapblocks that NEED entities
16:16 Megaf well, I ve seen mines -20km deep, so yeah
16:17 Shara Megaf: varies by type of server. This is a creative server, so I don't want players digging deep
16:17 Megaf my house is at -10000
16:17 Shara I do however want them able to go up high, since my map has layers
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16:22 Megaf #6975
16:22 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6975 -- [Feature request] Add ability to set mapgen vertical and horizontal limits sparely.
16:22 Shara Megaf: Can you please edit to specific upper and lower y limits should be seperate?
16:22 Shara Everything horizontal should be fine on one setting
16:22 IhrFussel What's the size of 1 mapblock in the DB? 4 KB?
16:23 Shara depends on content
16:23 Shara mapblock ful of air vs mapblock full of chests full of books full of text.... different size
16:23 IhrFussel I mean if there's no meta just mapgen
16:23 Shara no idea
16:24 Jordach Megaf: separately
16:24 Megaf there
16:26 Shara Commented anyway
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16:27 Jordach_ >opens blender
16:27 Jordach_ >display driver crashes
16:27 Jordach_ nice job blender foundation
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16:27 Jordach_ sure are going to be industry standard with all these unfixed bugs
16:28 Megaf Jordach_: blame your driver, no blender
16:28 Megaf or just blame windows
16:28 Jordach_ >literally AMD drivers
16:32 Megaf =/ ==================================================^
16:42 Jordach_ thats not supposed to happen
16:42 Jordach_ holy shit
16:42 Jordach_ uhh
16:42 Jordach_ >emerge-0
16:43 Jordach_ /home/stefan/mt-build/build/minetest_64/src/emerge.cpp:2a1: run: A fatal error ocurred: std::bad_alloc
16:43 sfan5 oh look that's my homedir
16:44 Jordach_ i was just moving the hud around
16:44 Jordach_ and it shits the bed
16:44 Jordach_ and takes windows with it
16:44 Jordach_ yep, 3D drivers dead
16:45 Jordach_ > win + r : iexplore.exe
16:45 Jordach_ nope, no working browsers
16:46 Krock > running IE
16:46 Krock > expecting it's a valid browser to confirm broken drivers
16:47 Krock /rant
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16:49 Jordach sfan5: don't think windows 10 is supposed to do this
16:49 Jordach https://jordach.net/images/empibdpfufelniayu.jpg
16:49 sfan5 rip
16:49 Jordach that black window is chrome
16:50 Jordach time to check event viewer
16:51 Calinou "asdfmovie"
16:52 Krock ^ first thing I've seen there
16:52 Calinou hi :)
16:52 Krock hello Calinou
16:53 Jordach Faulting application name: SearchUI.exe, version: 10.0.16299.98, time stamp: 0x5a1aada9
16:53 Jordach Faulting module name: atidxx64.dll, version: 23.20.15002.11, time stamp: 0x5a2869ef
16:53 Jordach hello here shit bag
16:55 red-001 way to report an error without any useful information
16:55 Jordach red-001: tl;dr display driver lost opengl windows
16:55 Jordach tl;dr;tl;dr it killed anything requiring a window manager
16:55 Jordach only thing that survived was my IRC client
16:56 red-001 one step above "something broke figure it out, restoring to backup to remove any information"
16:56 Jordach red-001: faulting module points the blame at the AMD display driver
16:56 red-001 I though Quassel needed used a GUI?
16:57 Jordach a gui that doesn't need 3d accel
16:57 red-001 needed/used*
16:57 Jordach >17.12.1
16:57 Jordach >18.1.1 driver
16:57 Jordach time to upgrade in case this is an actual driver issue
16:59 red-001 Jordach, what windows you using?
16:59 Jordach Windows 10 Education
16:59 Jordach FCU *
16:59 Jordach bloatware stripped with a real key :^)
16:59 red-001 my condolances
16:59 Jordach Edu removes the spywar
16:59 Jordach not even enterprise gets that
17:00 red-001 or you know you could just get that small util off github to do that
17:00 red-001 it breaks skype but who cares
17:00 Calinou https://github.com/10se1ucgo/DisableWinTracking still seems to work
17:01 red-001 I'm still pretty annoyed you can't uninstall edge normally in newer builds
17:01 Calinou meh, doesn't really matter
17:01 Calinou IE isn't uninstallable either
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17:02 red-001 and classic start menu makes the UI kinda useable
17:02 Jordach red-001: i prefer W7 style start
17:03 red-001 thats the one I use iirc
17:03 Jordach red-001: https://i.imgur.com/s7fwQbA.png
17:03 red-001 haven't used windows in ages
17:04 red-001 Jordach, did they fix license checking using up 80% of the CPU?
17:04 nerzhul start is useless, gnome search + launch is the better solution :)
17:04 red-001 ended up disabling it and don't want to update in case it freaks out
17:04 Jordach red-001: yes
17:04 Jordach FCU has been "great"
17:05 Jordach not a single windows update fucking me over once
17:05 red-001 FCU?
17:05 Krock great. we reached 800 issues >.<
17:05 Jordach Fall Creators Update
17:05 Jordach (2017)
17:06 Calinou I'm fine with the W10 start menu, really
17:06 Jordach i don't like it
17:06 Calinou I just remove all the tiles and set it to fullscreen mode
17:06 Jordach reminds me of my phone
17:06 Calinou both my machines are currently on Fedora KDE anyway
17:06 Jordach i love the interface on my surface pro
17:06 Jordach because it works there
17:06 Jordach but not on my bigole pc
17:07 red-001 maybe we should move to #Minetest-Chat since this is getting offtopic
17:07 * red-001 is shamelessly self-promoting
17:07 Jordach OMEGALUL
17:07 * Krock DDGs for the W10 start menu and notices that it's somewhat overloaded and having many programs will make it annoying to use
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17:15 IhrFussel sfan5, I just read the IRC logs of the recent days and found your message stating that the small stutters are not caused by anticheat when a player is attached to something and moves fast... it actually *is* caused by that because those stutters are completely gone as soon as I disabled anticheat for a few minutes on my server
17:18 IhrFussel I was actually checking if anticheat could also have caused the sudden halts in cars/on horses..that's why I disabled it...the halts stayed but the little stuttering was gone and movement was smooth (except for those weird halts)
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17:22 IhrFussel I still need someone with 0.4.17-dev and vehicles on their server ... I still have those halt issues and am not sure whether or not it's a bug in 0.4.17 maybe
17:25 IhrFussel It's 100% not a mod issue since the halting happens with 2 different vehicle types from 2 completely different mods... vehicle_mash and mobs redo
17:28 Shara Happens with dmobs for me
17:28 IhrFussel You mean the halting??
17:29 Shara Yes
17:29 sfan5 IhrFussel: what I said is that anticheat is not *directly* causing these
17:30 Shara When riding mobs while running anticheat
17:30 sfan5 meaing: the anticheat code does run when the player is attached
17:32 IhrFussel sfan5, what causes it then? Lag? I doubt it, max_lag is constantly 0.3 here
17:32 sfan5 dunno
17:33 sfan5 performance testing should be done to check differences between anticheat enabled / disabled
17:34 Shara It does seem like something that could have quite the impact
17:39 Megaf LOL, just made a new subgame
17:39 Megaf crazy one
17:41 Megaf all builtin mapgens are written in C++ right?
17:42 Megaf Where can I find all the definition I can pass to mapgen?
17:43 rubenwardy aliases?
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17:44 red-001 is there any mod for inspecting player inventories?
17:48 Calinou I don't remember
17:48 Calinou there's a mod to spectate players at least
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17:48 Calinou (good to catch griefers on the act :))
17:56 Megaf I think I need a custom mapgen
17:57 Megaf I dont want it to generate anything but stone and dirt
17:57 Megaf if I just set all aliases to air, dirt and stone, weird things will happen
17:58 Fixer WIN #>!! FOR WORKGROUPS INTERFACE IS FINALLY BACK IN WIN!)< JUST COMPRESS IT A LITTLE< P R O G R E S S
17:59 red-001 AndroBuilder, ask an op if you want voice
18:00 Fixer also, classic shell kinda RIP, it is open source now though
18:01 Calinou Fixer: WINE 3.11 for Workgroups
18:01 Calinou yeah, Classic Shell is now open source again, it was made proprietary in 2012
18:01 Calinou 2013*
18:02 Fixer Calinou: also, not sure if you can block telemetry with hosts, from what I hear, using MS firewall helps, god damn it is annoying
18:04 Calinou yeah, I think they use IPs
18:04 Calinou you can block some of the telemetry, but not all
18:06 IhrFussel Will MT ignore lines starting with # in the regular minetest.conf?
18:06 Fixer yes
18:07 Fixer IhrFussel: i think i've seen that halting thing since ages in boats
18:07 Fixer IhrFussel: also, WIDEN YOUR ROADS
18:08 Megaf wasnt there a categorie in the forums about mapgens?
18:08 Megaf category*
18:08 IhrFussel Fixer, boats from MTG is the only vehicle type that doesn't halt for me...maybe the boats just accelerate too slow to trigger it?
18:08 Fixer no idea
18:09 Fixer IhrFussel: maybe it is mod issue itself
18:09 IhrFussel It seems to be related to acceleration since it happens sooner when riding horses which speed up much faster compared to cars
18:11 IhrFussel mobs redo doesn't use code from lib_mount right? Cars do use lib_mount as movement engine
18:12 Megaf I made this, for myself, but feel free to use. http://git.megaf.info/Megaf/GitPaste/raw/master/Lua_API.pdf
18:13 Megaf just easier than reading a .md in .txt...
18:13 rubenwardy also http://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/lua_api.html
18:15 Megaf :)
18:17 Megaf whats the groups for water and water_source?
18:17 IhrFussel !tell tenplus1 Does Mobs Redo use movement code from lib_mount for attached players?
18:17 MinetestBot IhrFussel: I'll pass that on when tenplus1 is around
18:22 Megaf function swap_node(pos,name)
18:22 Megaf what does that function do?
18:23 IhrFussel It doesn't happen in 0.4.17 SP ... not even with server_step 1.0 it halts so it's not 0.4.17/lag related
18:33 IhrFussel I used the exact same conf from my server in SP and no halting... what the heck is that issue on my server
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18:47 Jordach found the reason why my system died
18:48 rubenwardy using windows?
18:48 Jordach from a legit software house
18:48 Jordach malwarebytes premium had a memory leak
18:48 Jordach one that ate 98% of total memory
18:48 Jordach and 50% of my damn CPU time
18:48 * Jordach waits for the free lifetime license
18:49 Jordach this is a cockup
18:49 Jordach https://i.imgur.com/Gc2YZMw.png
18:53 Fixer what is funny, all those computers with """AV""" still manage to have tons of malware and other crap
18:53 Jordach ads will be the death of modern IT
18:56 Megaf Jordach: how do I change sky colour?
18:57 Jordach player:set_sky("#rrggbb", "plain", bool)
18:57 Jordach bool = show clouds in front of plain or textured skybox
19:02 Megaf Can you give full function please?
19:04 Megaf nevermind
19:07 Jordach that is the full function, silly megaf
19:08 Jordach replace "plain" with "regular" for the normal dynamic skybox
19:09 Megaf Jordach: the subgame Im making is quite... minimal
19:09 Megaf theres no player
19:09 Megaf so I dont know where/how to define sky
19:09 Jordach use on_joinplayer(player)
19:10 Jordach then use player:set_sky
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19:14 Megaf minetest.register_on_joinplayer(function(player)
19:14 Megaf player:set_sky("#ffcc00", "plain", false)
19:14 Megaf end)
19:14 Megaf any better way of writing that?
19:14 Megaf (that works btw)
19:21 Megaf PANDORA BOX HAS BEEN OPENED, MEGAF HAS LEARNED HOW TO USE STUFF FROM LUA_API
19:21 Megaf Brace yourselves. A Wild Megaf Is Coming!
19:22 Megaf Jordach: you created a monster
19:22 Megaf so much possibilities in Lua_API
19:27 Shara Oh no. We're doomed
19:27 Shara Megaf can now lua.
19:31 Megaf can I set FOV in the subgame?
19:31 Megaf I think in the minetest.conf in the subgame I can
19:36 Shara I feel like I read something about that lately, but not sure
19:38 Megaf I cant make a node emit light...
19:39 Megaf nevermind...
19:39 Megaf was changing the settings of the wrong node
19:43 Megaf do we have a settings already to impose a mapgen?
19:44 Fixer Jordach: btw, Windows 7/8/8.1 had windows update bug eating one CPU to 100% for many months...
19:44 Shara impose a mapgen in what sense?
19:44 Shara Megaf: if you mean limit mapgens for a subgame, then yes
19:45 Megaf Im making this subgame, it only works with v6
19:45 Megaf so I' d like to only allow it to be ran on v6
19:45 Megaf v6 and flat actualy
19:45 Shara okay, add "disallowed_mapgens = <list of all mapgens>" in game.conf
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19:46 Shara Example: https://github.com/Ezhh/abri/blob/master/game.conf (this just removes v6 though)
19:46 Megaf can I set just a line allowed mapgen?
19:47 Shara no
19:47 Shara you can only list mapgens to exclude
19:47 Megaf we have a billion of mapgens
19:47 Shara hardly
19:47 Shara Stop being lazy!
19:47 Megaf Im making a subgame from scratch, would call that lazy
19:48 Shara You are being lazy if you can't be bothered to list 7 mapgens
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19:50 Shara With that said, I wish you the best of luck.
19:51 Megaf :)
19:51 Shara My efforts to make a subgame have already caused me to contibute  things to MT (the subgame mapgen restrictions) and soon to MTG (the fireflies)
19:51 Megaf https://imgur.com/a/efFr8
19:51 Megaf nice natural structure in fractal mapgen
19:51 Shara So it can be a good way to find what needs adding
19:51 Shara and what can just make MT a bit nicer
19:59 Megaf disallowed_mapgens = fractal, v5, v7, valleys,
19:59 Megaf fail
20:00 Shara ahh, are yu using stable?
20:00 Shara Needs dev version (but I assumed from what you said before you were using dev)
20:00 Megaf so the syntax is correct
20:00 Megaf at least
20:01 Shara maybe remove spaces too
20:01 Megaf tried commas without spaces, just spaces and commas with space
20:01 Megaf none work
20:01 Megaf I must be using an old version
20:02 Shara Yes, this is fairly recent
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20:26 Fixer holy sh--, that some good r e a l i s m https://uploads4.wikiart.org/images/johannes-vermeer/the-little-street.jpg
20:27 Megaf Fixer: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d5/3a/29/d53a295f6cc93709cbe1cff5ed993f77.jpg
20:29 Megaf Fixer: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d0/1f/ec/d01fece4bee559b2e3310a77129fd1cb.jpg
20:29 Megaf :D
20:29 Raven262 Wow, that one looks very, very realistic.
20:29 Raven262 Both actually.
20:29 Megaf http://thetipsheet.typepad.com/.a/6a00e39338cae9883401b7c744c9de970b-pi
20:35 Fixer Megaf: at least I know first one from 17st  century is not photoshopped
20:37 Megaf Fixer: yep, there was a period of time where photorealism was very strong in art
20:37 Megaf the period we are at right now is called, Neocrapshitness
20:50 Jordach Did you mean: Hip Indie
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20:59 Jordach FeelsGoodMan [Hudclock] Recalculating calendar. [Hudclock] The date is: 1/2/30
21:13 * Jordach reworked the UI to be less annoying for tablet users but doesn't guarantee correct appearance
21:13 Jordach https://jordach.net/images/dxsicmepsyddxnbluj.png
21:15 rubenwardy anyone know any mods or subgames which I can combine to make a dead world with lots of ruins?
21:16 Raven262 Duane's mods make some nice ruins
21:16 Raven262 Like geomoria
21:16 Raven262 And his C mapgen
21:19 red-001 there was that wasteland mapgen
21:19 red-001 *//game
21:20 Raven262 Yeah, butt hose ruins were small and boring
21:22 * Jordach aligns things down to the pixel
21:22 Jordach https://jordach.net/images/pkbwjnaddkqudoxmhv.png
21:23 Megaf nice texture pac
21:23 Megaf pack*
21:24 Jordach Megaf: that's a subgame
21:24 Megaf is it available for everybody?
21:24 Jordach as a work in progress dev server? yes
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21:25 * Jordach tests some common phone aspect ratios
21:25 Jordach looks good
21:41 Megaf Fixer: http://www.oilpaintingfactory.com/pic/Oil%20Painting%20Styles%20on%20Canvas/Classic/Rococo/0Gda008dD25-classical-oil-painting-Rococo-classic-Rococo.jpg
21:42 Megaf the period you like is Rococo
21:42 Megaf search for Rococo painting, lots of good stuff
21:43 Megaf like https://rclong2.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/louis_xv_france_by_louis-michel_van_loo_002.jpg and https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8b/Johann_Georg_Platzer_-_Dancing_scene_with_palace_interior_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg
21:43 Megaf the second not so much
21:47 Megaf Kingdom of Canada, Empire of Brazil, Italian Africa. LMAO http://i.imgur.com/sLFPBgo.jpg
21:47 Megaf very interesting
21:50 Krock how much truth is in that image?
21:51 Megaf That's real I think
21:51 Megaf 1924
21:51 Megaf So is this one, even crazier https://i.imgur.com/7WAVBsl.jpg
21:52 Krock France was never called "Italy" and there's Switzerland in the middle - now Italy too
21:52 Megaf each country tells a different history
21:54 Megaf Italy once was a big empire
21:54 Fixer Jordach: https://i.imgur.com/xCE30kS.jpg
21:54 Jordach Fixer: uwotm7
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22:07 Fixer Megaf: here is his site http://www.nathanwalsh.net/index.php?view=painting
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22:12 Krock street art.. in a different sense
22:13 Megaf PROGRESSEXHIBITIONSPUBLICATIONSESSAYCONTACT PLEASE
22:13 Megaf Oo
22:13 Megaf thats not what I copied
22:13 Megaf "PLEASE ENABLE JAVASCRIPT FOR THE SITE TO FUNCTION CORRECTLY"
22:13 Megaf there
22:13 Megaf How about no?
22:15 Calinou progressive enhancementâ„¢
22:16 rubenwardy Calinou: played the new maps yet? ;)
22:16 rubenwardy (on CTF)
22:16 Calinou nope
22:18 sfan5 insta ctf with guns in mt when?
22:18 rubenwardy insta ctf?
22:19 sfan5 1 hp => one hit, dead
22:19 * Shara might have a working server again...
22:19 Calinou :D
22:19 Megaf !server cat
22:19 MinetestBot Megaf: leo-cat100-server | 92.26.161.69 | Clients: 2/25, 3/9 | Version: 0.4.16-dev / minetest | Ping: 31ms
22:19 Megaf !server red
22:19 MinetestBot Megaf: UGX Realms (AMHI Inspired remake) | 69.195.136.26:33151 | Clients: 1/30, 2/6 | Version: 0.4.16 / UGXrealms | Ping: 116ms
22:19 Shara lol, bot no likes me
22:19 rubenwardy !server creative
22:19 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Just creative world | hasanalsamra.tk:30001 | Clients: 11/40, 14/30 | Version: 0.4.14 / minetest | Ping: 93ms
22:19 rubenwardy huh, I think shara is lying
22:20 rubenwardy !server red cat
22:20 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Red Cat Creative | 51.254.216.93 | Clients: 2/35, 1/2 | Version: 0.4.16 / redcat | Ping: 11ms
22:20 Megaf :D
22:21 Shara There.. opened to players again as well
22:21 rubenwardy instant kill would be interesting if combined with a map with lots of cover
22:21 Shara I'd like to see that
22:22 Jordach squake when
22:23 Jordach when can we have native bunnyhopping in MT
22:23 Jordach >tfw someone in my discord is here in -hub
22:23 Jordach o/ Dargod
22:29 red-001 > discord
22:30 Fixer Jordach: actually waiting for Urban Terror jumping physics, that will be megahit
22:32 Calinou Jordach: https://github.com/Erkaman/smiley :^)
22:32 Fixer oh no
22:32 Fixer Calinou: waiting for that thinking guy with hand emoji
22:33 Jordach 🤔
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22:35 Jordach your forum software can't handle the 🤔
22:35 Jordach SQL ERROR [ mysqli ] Incorrect string value: '\xF0\x9F\xA4\x94' for column 'post_text' at row 1 [1366]
22:35 * twoelk wrestles with atomic IRC client on android and a fractured screen
22:36 Fixer http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/292/906/c4a.gif
22:36 Jordach Fixer: fucking glorious
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22:57 rubenwardy this person scares me: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=19498
22:57 rubenwardy !title
22:57 MinetestBot rubenwardy: [Mod] Blood Magic [bloodmagic] - Minetest Forums
22:58 * Jordach blinks
22:58 Shara Yea...
22:58 Jordach Botania port when
23:00 Jordach but also, Thaumcraft port when
23:09 Fixer Jordach: much more when
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23:27 Shara IhrFussel: And look at that, soon as RC is up, sallee shows up again.
23:28 Shara Banned already, but different IP address this time
23:30 Jordach Shara: just make a mod to forcefully attach them to an entity with no movement abilities
23:30 Shara Actually wrong, the other record is a new name. Fun
23:31 Shara Jordach: Banning is better
23:31 Jordach Shara: wait for it to sink in that they can do nothing
23:31 Shara They can't anyway. Map limits are quite strict now
23:32 Jordach at some point i'll crap out a mtmapper containing RGB values
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