| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:18 |
Megaf |
by the way, do not buy ODroid, they are known to just die, stop working |
| 00:18 |
Megaf |
Mine did too |
| 00:27 |
Calinou |
did they update the kernel yet? |
| 00:27 |
Calinou |
:^) |
| 00:28 |
Megaf |
The latest I saw was 4.9 |
| 00:29 |
Megaf |
they must have more updated I think |
| 00:29 |
Megaf |
But I dont care, they can't make a good quality hardware |
| 00:29 |
Megaf |
I lost lots of money with this |
| 00:29 |
Megaf |
my U3 was, for me, more than 120 USD |
| 00:30 |
Megaf |
ODRoid + charger + SDCard + shipping + taxes |
| 00:30 |
Megaf |
ODroids are just a waste of moeny |
| 00:33 |
sfan5 |
let me present a contrary anecdote: I own two odroids, both have seen prolonged periods of 24/7 use and are completely fine |
| 00:33 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: not really, latest is 4.13 for odroid-c2 afaik |
| 00:36 |
Megaf |
sfan5: which one you have? |
| 00:36 |
sfan5 |
c1 + c2 |
| 00:36 |
Megaf |
maybe these new Raspberry Pi compatible ones are better |
| 00:36 |
Megaf |
because they are using Raspberry Pi desing :P (That's a joke) |
| 00:37 |
Megaf |
Mine is an U3 |
| 00:38 |
sfan5 |
the C series have Amlogic SoCs, U3 has a Samsung one |
| 00:38 |
sfan5 |
doubt that makes a difference in quality, but it's a difference |
| 00:41 |
Megaf |
I will dd ubuntu to sdcard as soon as it finishes extracting (other thing I hate in ODroid, they xz their images, I cant curl http://url/image.img > /dev/mmcblk0). |
| 00:41 |
Megaf |
Sometimes is just SDCard or image that is broken |
| 00:42 |
sfan5 |
you can curl |
| 00:42 |
sfan5 |
curl -s http://example.com | xz -d | pv >/dev/mmcblk0 |
| 00:44 |
Megaf |
4.5Gubuntu-14.04.2lts-lubuntu-odroid-u-20150224.img |
| 00:45 |
Megaf |
4,5 GB!? |
| 00:45 |
Megaf |
Thats larger than my laptops Debian install with the software I need for college and gnome 3!!!!!1 |
| 00:45 |
Megaf |
fecks sake |
| 00:46 |
Megaf |
Is Ubuntu really that big!? |
| 00:48 |
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| 00:48 |
Megaf |
Jordach: Did you watch the video from Techmoan on the most complicated auto reverse tape? |
| 00:48 |
Jordach |
yes |
| 00:49 |
benrob0329 |
You're asking *Jordach* if he's seen a Techmoan video.. |
| 00:49 |
benrob0329 |
kek |
| 00:50 |
* benrob0329 |
works on a video |
| 00:52 |
* Jordach |
looks at wallet |
| 00:52 |
Jordach |
>cries in WindowsMR |
| 00:52 |
Jordach |
it's minetest, but it supports steamvr |
| 00:54 |
Shara |
And seems the downtime didn't put off the players. RC is pretty busy again already. |
| 00:54 |
sfan5 |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>windows |
| 00:55 |
red-001 |
> >> >>> >>>> uses an operating system <<<< <<< << < |
| 01:04 |
* Megaf |
watching Blade Runner |
| 01:04 |
Megaf |
a "final cut" version from 1997 |
| 01:24 |
Megaf |
Whos using Ubuntu, which version, which CPU? You interested in an optimized build for your system? |
| 01:53 |
Megaf |
So, I just did a cmake ../../ -DBUILD_CLIENT=1 -BUILD_SERVER=1 -DENABLE_SYSTEM_GMP=1 -DENABLE_SYSTEM_JSONCPP=1 -DENABLE_GETTEXT=1 |
| 01:54 |
Megaf |
from minetest/build/linux |
| 01:54 |
Megaf |
and the result was -- Build files have been written to: /minetest/build/linux/UILD_SERVER=1 |
| 01:54 |
Megaf |
what? |
| 01:57 |
Megaf |
oh, forgot the D |
| 01:57 |
Megaf |
will never get used to cmake... |
| 02:04 |
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| 02:36 |
Megaf |
G'Night |
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| 05:36 |
tumeninodes |
mods need to check the forum |
| 05:39 |
tumeninodes |
our friend is at it again |
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| 09:37 |
cx384 |
forum attack https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=19532#p310158 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=19487#p310157 https://forum.minetest.net/search.php?author_id=22695&sr=posts by mineholic |
| 09:38 |
cx384 |
Please remove this guy from the forum! |
| 09:42 |
cx384 |
Who should I report this spam? |
| 09:43 |
cx384 |
*whom |
| 09:44 |
nerzhul |
cx384, old coder, another time |
| 09:45 |
cx384 |
nerzhul, Why is he doing this? |
| 09:56 |
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| 09:57 |
tumeninodes |
cleanup, isle 3..... and 4, and 5, and 6.... |
| 09:58 |
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| 10:02 |
cx384 |
wow there is a mietest.org forum where you can't see the spam https://minetest.org/forum/ |
| 10:03 |
tumeninodes |
that's where the spam comes from |
| 10:09 |
tumeninodes |
nothing he does is "legitimate and reasonable" or "protected under US laws" he is referring to "qualified privilege" which will not cover him due to his malicious intent |
| 10:09 |
tumeninodes |
anyway... I'll be bach |
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| 10:27 |
celeron55 |
cx384: that's hosted by OC, with very old content |
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| 11:56 |
Raven262 |
Umm Shara,so I just type this thing in chat to get interact? (I'm on the RC creative server.) |
| 11:56 |
Shara |
I was just wondering if it really was you :D |
| 11:57 |
Shara |
But if you found the word, yes |
| 11:57 |
Raven262 |
hehe |
| 11:58 |
Shara |
I know it's a bit silly, but it does hold back some of the more... let's call them messy players |
| 12:02 |
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| 12:03 |
lisac |
Shara: I'm joining Red Cat creative too |
| 12:03 |
Shara |
Awesome. More than happy to have you there :) |
| 12:08 |
lisac |
I like it so far. Aside from the weird server greeting |
| 12:08 |
Shara |
Weird greeting? |
| 12:09 |
lisac |
"player, <name> Has successfully read the rules and has been granted interact!" |
| 12:09 |
Shara |
How is that weird? |
| 12:09 |
Shara |
It's also not really greeting |
| 12:10 |
lisac |
well, it looks a bit weird with first p lowercase, then the H uppercase |
| 12:10 |
Shara |
It also doesn't say "has successfully" :P |
| 12:11 |
lisac |
yeah, I was writing it out of my head. :) |
| 12:11 |
Shara |
The case I can fix anyway |
| 12:11 |
Shara |
(I didn't write the mod) |
| 12:11 |
lisac |
okay :) |
| 12:11 |
lisac |
it's actually, "player, lisacvuk Read the rules and has been granted interact!" |
| 12:12 |
Shara |
It can drop the "player" part completely and get the caps right |
| 12:12 |
Raven262 |
Shara, Is the whole server covered in snow? xD |
| 12:13 |
Shara |
Yea, will deactive the winter mod soon though |
| 12:13 |
Shara |
I usually leave it run through January |
| 12:13 |
Raven262 |
Ah |
| 12:13 |
Raven262 |
So that is why I can't find any snowless place |
| 12:13 |
Shara |
:D |
| 12:13 |
Shara |
SOrry |
| 12:13 |
Raven262 |
I was confused lol |
| 12:14 |
Shara |
It's just a temporary texture change |
| 12:14 |
Shara |
It is different from the nromal snow texture if you look closely though |
| 12:14 |
Shara |
normal* |
| 12:19 |
Shara |
lisac: okay, after next restart that will have been changed :) |
| 12:26 |
lisac |
okay, thanks :) |
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| 12:32 |
sniper338 |
jfyi, whoever's owner of banana land beware 'suspicious' player talkin bout here has been spotted 24+ hours on ur server n ergo may b under attack rite now! |
| 12:34 |
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| 12:34 |
sniper338 |
27.01/21:26 <Shara> agaran: is what you used something that's easy to publish for others? U should make n easy guide 2 assist others in case their servers gets dis kinda dos attack :( |
| 12:36 |
Shara |
sniper338: yea, I hope he will |
| 12:36 |
sniper338 |
k! :) |
| 12:36 |
Shara |
But maybe ask him in the RC admin channel? I don't think he is in here |
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| 12:54 |
Calinou |
hi :) |
| 12:54 |
Jordach |
ayy lmao |
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| 13:16 |
IhrFussel |
Hi guys |
| 13:20 |
Raven262 |
Hi Calinou, IhrFussel, Jordach. |
| 14:12 |
Megaf |
Hi folks |
| 14:27 |
Raven262 |
Hi Megaf |
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| 14:41 |
Megaf |
Hi paramat |
| 14:46 |
IhrFussel |
Is it normal that MT network packets seem to block my entire internet? |
| 14:46 |
IhrFussel |
It's like whenever someone joins/leaves or some other packets are sent my PC will delay every other connection |
| 14:47 |
Megaf |
IhrFussel: It depends on how your NIC is connected to your system |
| 14:47 |
Megaf |
On systems with very weak CPUs and USB NICs Minetest will drag the whole system down, yes |
| 14:47 |
Megaf |
for example, the first gen Raspberry Pi |
| 14:47 |
Jordach |
UDP does screw up crap network connections |
| 14:47 |
Megaf |
However, I think this would be highly unlikely in your computer |
| 14:47 |
IhrFussel |
Not sure what NIC is...network card? |
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| 14:48 |
Megaf |
Network Interface Card |
| 14:48 |
Jordach |
IhrFussel: Network Interface Controller |
| 14:48 |
Megaf |
^ |
| 14:48 |
Jordach |
Megaf: it's not a card if it's built into the system |
| 14:48 |
IhrFussel |
Not sure which one I got...the PC isn't the newest (2010) |
| 14:50 |
IhrFussel |
Is it the ethernet controller? |
| 14:51 |
IhrFussel |
Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82567LF-3 Gigabit Network Connection (rev 02) |
| 14:52 |
Megaf |
Should be good enough |
| 14:53 |
Megaf |
Jordach: I didn't know UDP could mess up with other traffic |
| 14:53 |
Jordach |
it does on certain board revisions of BT Hubs |
| 14:53 |
Megaf |
well, if the router is not doing a good QoS, then yeah.. |
| 14:53 |
Jordach |
to the point of a 90C internal temparature |
| 14:55 |
paramat |
Shara i agree that the mapgen limit setting should not remove anyhting, it should only stop new terrain generation outside the limit. this was hmmmm's intent too |
| 14:55 |
paramat |
problem is some are seeing it as 'the new edge of the world' and wanting to eliminate everything beyond it |
| 14:55 |
red-001 |
it can? |
| 14:56 |
Shara |
Hi paramat |
| 14:56 |
paramat |
looking at 'objectops over limit' that is set to 31000 so where is the code that removes objects at 'mapgen limit'? |
| 14:57 |
Shara |
I've already had what seems to be two more attempts to generate extra map yet again on RC, so as you can imagine, not feeling very happy that I can't stop ANY new mapblocks being created |
| 14:58 |
IhrFussel |
paramat, objects being removed if outsie mapgen limit was intended to fix server crashes |
| 14:58 |
Megaf |
<IhrFussel> paramat, objects being removed if outsie mapgen limit was intended to fix server crashes |
| 14:58 |
Megaf |
I remember that |
| 14:59 |
Megaf |
My server was a victim of a bug of objects outside the mapgen crashing teh server |
| 15:00 |
paramat |
Ihr no you're confusing 31000 with 'mapgen limit' setting |
| 15:00 |
Megaf |
? |
| 15:00 |
IhrFussel |
No , the server will crash if ANY entity tries to run outside the mapgen limit |
| 15:01 |
paramat |
everything out to 31000 should always work, 'mapgen limit' should only limit mapgen (obviously) |
| 15:01 |
IhrFussel |
But when players stand at the edge of mapgen and suddenly a mob tries to spawn outside it will crash the server AFAIK |
| 15:01 |
paramat |
if it crashes it is because of code elsewhere that is treating 'mapgen limit' as the 'edge of everything, we will remove that code too |
| 15:01 |
Shara |
I know there was an issue with things falling off maps before |
| 15:02 |
Shara |
Had thought about this myself |
| 15:02 |
Shara |
But auto-deletion of entities shuld surely only occur on a mapblock that has not been generated, regardless of current mapgen_limit |
| 15:02 |
IhrFussel |
Shara, that sounds like a good method...check if the block has been generated before removing the entity |
| 15:02 |
paramat |
i've done more work on the edge of the world than anyone, i suspect there is some silly code somewhere that needs fixing |
| 15:03 |
paramat |
when you reduce 'mapgen limit' the already-generated world outside remains visible and explorable, so it should remain fully functional too |
| 15:04 |
IhrFussel |
I agree, so would that check be easy to add to entity/object removal? |
| 15:04 |
Shara |
paramat: Sorry for adding to your workload (I know it's something I'm good at...) but would this be something you could take a look at? |
| 15:05 |
paramat |
i seem to remember entities can fall off into ignore, that is a problem, ignore is solid to players though, it should be solid for mobs too |
| 15:06 |
paramat |
you don't need to ask, it's something i was already intending to fix, but forgot =) |
| 15:06 |
paramat |
i expect some opposition though |
| 15:07 |
Shara |
Well, the situation on my server is a very strong argument (I hope) |
| 15:10 |
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| 15:10 |
Shara |
paramat: firefly textures also need your expert eye when you can spare some time. PR can be made then :) |
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MinetestBot |
Tenplus1: Jan-27 18:17 UTC <IhrFussel> Does Mobs Redo use movement code from lib_mount for attached players? |
| 15:10 |
Tenplus1 |
hi folks |
| 15:11 |
paramat |
ok |
| 15:11 |
tumeninodes |
hi Tenplus1 |
| 15:11 |
Tenplus1 |
hi tumeninodes |
| 15:11 |
Jordach |
11, decapitalise |
| 15:11 |
Tenplus1 |
o/ paramat |
| 15:11 |
Jordach |
looks strnage with that |
| 15:11 |
Tenplus1 |
hi Jordach, lol |
| 15:12 |
Tenplus1 |
am on intel desky today |
| 15:12 |
paramat |
Megaf if you need a customised mpagen tell me what you need and i can give advise what to do |
| 15:12 |
Jordach |
https://jordach.net/images/fgipwmxrxllslzi.png |
| 15:12 |
Jordach |
i'm reworking the UI again |
| 15:13 |
Tenplus1 |
looks good jordach |
| 15:13 |
IhrFussel |
Tenplus1, hi ... did you overlook my !tell message? It's important to know that cause of an issue I got on my server |
| 15:13 |
Tenplus1 |
IhrFussel: mobs redo api has an altered version of lib_mount so it works a little easier with rotated mobs |
| 15:14 |
Tenplus1 |
what issue ? |
| 15:14 |
IhrFussel |
Sudden halting |
| 15:14 |
tumeninodes |
omg, that GNU yak has always been so annoying to me |
| 15:14 |
Tenplus1 |
what happens when it halts ? and does any errors appear ? |
| 15:14 |
IhrFussel |
Like when I'm on a horse and I accelerate it halts me .. same with cars and both seem to use code from lib_mount |
| 15:15 |
Tenplus1 |
oh so you are using lib/_mount and it's halting ?? |
| 15:16 |
IhrFussel |
I'm not sure if it's really linked to lib_mount yet...boats don't seem to have that halting issue and they don't use lib_mount |
| 15:16 |
Tenplus1 |
could be the inertia damage that causes issue, you can disable that I think |
| 15:17 |
Tenplus1 |
agree'd :) |
| 15:18 |
IhrFussel |
Tenplus1, do you mean crashing? I already disabled that |
| 15:18 |
tumeninodes |
afk brb |
| 15:18 |
Tenplus1 |
I have two different functions in the mobs redo version to drive/fly and both work fine last I tested them... |
| 15:19 |
Tenplus1 |
api.txt gives instructions how to use them both if you wanna try |
| 15:19 |
IhrFussel |
Did you try in 0.4.17? |
| 15:19 |
Tenplus1 |
havent had time, waiting for download link for my distro |
| 15:19 |
paramat |
Megaf , for your game, a mod can force a core mapgen to be used, that works in 0.4.16 / 0.4.17 stable |
| 15:20 |
IhrFussel |
Tenplus1, I tried to set the stepheight to 2.1 to see if it that changes something and suddenly the cars didn't stop anymore but instead regularly seemed to drive over an invisible wall that's 2 nodes high o.o |
| 15:21 |
Tenplus1 |
erk... |
| 15:22 |
Tenplus1 |
sounds like the lib_mount part has been altered since last I looked, especially if it's glitching this easily |
| 15:27 |
Tenplus1 |
check the example horse code for riding and maybe you could alter the vehicle to use mob api instead for testing, see if it has same issue |
| 15:28 |
aerozoic |
LOL, anybody notice the hash tag under the google.com search bar today? |
| 15:29 |
Jordach |
aerozoic: no, i use bing |
| 15:29 |
Jordach |
:^) |
| 15:30 |
Tenplus1 |
lol yeah #DataPrivacyDay |
| 15:30 |
Jordach |
fucking kektus |
| 15:30 |
Krock |
hi Tenplus1 |
| 15:31 |
Tenplus1 |
hey Krock |
| 15:31 |
Shara |
Google sometimes likes to show up at data protection related conferences as well now too |
| 15:31 |
Tenplus1 |
hi Shara @:) |
| 15:32 |
Jordach |
more like how we can farm even more data from users who already do this |
| 15:32 |
Shara |
Though depressingly, Microsoft puts on a much better display that Google does |
| 15:32 |
Jordach |
Shara: Microsoft has done for years now? not seen the Surface Pro line? |
| 15:32 |
Jordach |
(and Surface Book) |
| 15:32 |
Tenplus1 |
dunno how many google addresses I have blocked in my adlocker and javascript blocker for them now :P |
| 15:32 |
Shara |
I'm talking about representation at professional data protection events, not about any specific product |
| 15:33 |
Jordach |
Shara: seems like they've gotten better |
| 15:34 |
Shara |
I actually attend these things, so have seen how they present |
| 15:35 |
Tenplus1 |
any weird one's so far? |
| 15:35 |
aerozoic |
Anybody know if gitlab.com is a legit website? For example: https://gitlab.com/minetest/minetest |
| 15:35 |
IhrFussel |
Tenplus1, it doesn't seem to be consistent... sometimes I can ride a horse without halting for 1+ minute and then suddenly it happens again... seems like I will have to do a lot more tests to find the cause |
| 15:36 |
rubenwardy |
aerozoic: yes |
| 15:36 |
rubenwardy |
that's an official repo used as a mirror and provides automated builds |
| 15:36 |
Tenplus1 |
is truly weird fussel, any other mods active ? |
| 15:36 |
rubenwardy |
ran by nerzhul |
| 15:36 |
aerozoic |
oh thanks rubenwardy :) |
| 15:44 |
tumeninodes |
https://imgur.com/a/Ajttj |
| 15:44 |
tumeninodes |
!title |
| 15:44 |
MinetestBot |
tumeninodes: My fences, can't even... - Album on Imgur |
| 15:45 |
tumeninodes |
I think Imma just rework fences altogether (and gates) |
| 15:51 |
Tenplus1 |
sent |
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| 15:53 |
Tenplus1 |
hi benrob |
| 15:53 |
tumeninodes |
hello... Dr. |
| 15:53 |
benrob0329 |
Hi (capitalized) Tenplus1 |
| 15:53 |
* Jordach |
is re-working the Solar Plains UI |
| 15:53 |
Jordach |
https://jordach.net/images/fgipwmxrxllslzi.png |
| 15:54 |
benrob0329 |
Jordach: left side of the screen feels empty |
| 15:54 |
* Jordach |
looks at tablets |
| 15:54 |
Jordach |
reeeeee |
| 15:54 |
tumeninodes |
hahahaha |
| 15:55 |
Jordach |
nice thumb covering 25% of the screen there m7 |
| 15:55 |
tumeninodes |
a thumbs up ico would be so perfect right about now |
| 15:56 |
benrob0329 |
👠|
| 15:56 |
tumeninodes |
:D perfect |
| 16:01 |
Jordach |
or copy and paste |
| 16:01 |
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| 16:02 |
tumeninodes |
Jordach that is my programming language of choice |
| 16:02 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy: http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/5-08-2015/z2CvR6.gif |
| 16:03 |
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| 16:03 |
* benrob0329 |
publishes video |
| 16:03 |
rubenwardy |
woo |
| 16:03 |
red-001 |
on a scale of horrible idea to worst idea ever invented were does running a irc client on a router fall? |
| 16:03 |
* rubenwardy |
likes |
| 16:03 |
red-001 |
where* |
| 16:04 |
benrob0329 |
red-001: -20 |
| 16:04 |
Tenplus1 |
nicely done benrob :) illuna looks a beautiful plac |
| 16:05 |
Tenplus1 |
hi Darcidride_ |
| 16:05 |
tumeninodes |
geeesh... keyboard much Ten? |
| 16:05 |
benrob0329 |
:D |
| 16:05 |
Tenplus1 |
tumeni: do you kno da wae ? |
| 16:06 |
tumeninodes |
baaaah hahahahaha |
| 16:06 |
Jordach |
OH GOD NOW |
| 16:06 |
Tenplus1 |
:P |
| 16:06 |
tumeninodes |
my kid just showed me that a few nights ago |
| 16:06 |
Jordach |
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 16:06 |
* Jordach |
has had enough of the VRChat right now |
| 16:06 |
tumeninodes |
dis iz definitly da way |
| 16:07 |
Tenplus1 |
found that one funny :P it's everywhere now |
| 16:08 |
rubenwardy |
red-65516: your nick is now purple rather than red in my client |
| 16:08 |
rubenwardy |
my trust has been broken |
| 16:08 |
rubenwardy |
I can't live like this |
| 16:08 |
Tenplus1 |
red is blue here... *contradiction* |
| 16:08 |
tumeninodes |
the pen... is blue!!!!!!!! |
| 16:08 |
Jordach |
*law and order dun dun* |
| 16:10 |
tumeninodes |
rubenwardy is purple, I am red... I do not get this color scheme or it's reasoning |
| 16:10 |
Jordach |
my client has black nicks for everyone |
| 16:11 |
Jordach |
on a white background |
| 16:11 |
rubenwardy |
> not dark theme |
| 16:11 |
rubenwardy |
what even |
| 16:11 |
* tumeninodes |
changes to white... so I'm invisibles |
| 16:11 |
Jordach |
dark theme is for faggots unless you use discord |
| 16:11 |
Tenplus1 |
o.O |
| 16:11 |
Jordach |
discord dark theme doesn't blow your eyes off |
| 16:11 |
rubenwardy |
because that makes sense |
| 16:12 |
Jordach |
light theme is just #FFF |
| 16:13 |
tumeninodes |
whoooooooo, no one can see meeee.... |
| 16:13 |
Jordach |
tumeninodes: still black here |
| 16:13 |
tumeninodes |
dammit |
| 16:14 |
rubenwardy |
invisible |
| 16:14 |
Jordach |
still black |
| 16:14 |
tumeninodes |
*s |
| 16:14 |
rubenwardy |
invisible |
| 16:14 |
Jordach |
KEK |
| 16:14 |
rubenwardy |
aw chanserv |
| 16:14 |
rubenwardy |
!rainbow test |
| 16:14 |
MinetestBot |
test |
| 16:14 |
* rubenwardy |
cries |
| 16:15 |
Jordach |
>tfw rekt by ChanServ |
| 16:15 |
red-65516 |
rubenwardy, https://pastebin.com/vaPrppHh |
| 16:15 |
tumeninodes |
there there... itsa k |
| 16:15 |
rubenwardy |
nice |
| 16:15 |
* tumeninodes |
really, really wants to tidy up the textures section |
| 16:15 |
red-65516 |
not sure if thats the same key that my commits use but whatever |
| 16:16 |
rubenwardy |
https://rubenwardy.com/pgp_public.asc |
| 16:16 |
tumeninodes |
red??? you're violet, violet |
| 16:16 |
Jordach |
we do not mention the johnny depp wonka factory thank you |
| 16:17 |
red-65516 |
rubenwardy, I'm slightly disapointed you didn't put that key in a message... signed with itself |
| 16:17 |
tumeninodes |
no no, tis' Gene Wilder, thank you |
| 16:17 |
Jordach |
tumeninodes: much better |
| 16:17 |
tumeninodes |
only the best |
| 16:18 |
Tenplus1 |
can you select your nick colour on irc ? |
| 16:18 |
Jordach |
no |
| 16:18 |
tumeninodes |
ok so, the textures section of the forum is a sea of dead links |
| 16:18 |
Tenplus1 |
aww |
| 16:18 |
Jordach |
you're being memed |
| 16:18 |
tumeninodes |
Tenplus1, watch this....... |
| 16:18 |
tumeninodes |
invisibles....... poof |
| 16:18 |
Tenplus1 |
o.O I still see ya |
| 16:19 |
tumeninodes |
what the heck man?! |
| 16:19 |
* Tenplus1 |
is using Pidgin |
| 16:19 |
tumeninodes |
:| |
| 16:19 |
tumeninodes |
why? |
| 16:19 |
rubenwardy |
I used it for a while, its IRC support kinda sucked |
| 16:19 |
Tenplus1 |
I like it :P nice n simple and handles google too |
| 16:20 |
rubenwardy |
at the time I saw it |
| 16:20 |
rubenwardy |
*used it |
| 16:20 |
rubenwardy |
no one uses google ;) |
| 16:20 |
rubenwardy |
as in, GChat |
| 16:20 |
* Tenplus1 |
ain't got no time for multiple chat clients |
| 16:20 |
tumeninodes |
excuse me... whoogle? |
| 16:20 |
rubenwardy |
I have two chat clients on my computer |
| 16:20 |
rubenwardy |
Hexchat |
| 16:20 |
rubenwardy |
and Firefox |
| 16:21 |
IhrFussel |
Okay now that I changed boat max speed from 5 to 12 it also happens there... now it's 100% not a mod issue |
| 16:21 |
tumeninodes |
sprekin of google... I love how their apps take up ALL the storage space on your phone |
| 16:21 |
Tenplus1 |
could be an entity issue when loading new map areas fussel ? |
| 16:21 |
red-65516 |
benrob0329, wow |
| 16:22 |
Tenplus1 |
*shudder* sad but true tumeni, would love to remove all google fluff and use pidgin on phone too |
| 16:22 |
red-65516 |
how did you do those cinematic camera moves? |
| 16:22 |
IhrFussel |
Tenplus1, the map parts are alreay there when it happens...maybe the entities load too slow for some reason and the engine doesn't allow the attached entity to enter the new mapblock yet? |
| 16:22 |
rubenwardy |
red-65516, camera smoothing and cinematic mode |
| 16:22 |
Tenplus1 |
coudl be fussel |
| 16:24 |
tumeninodes |
my videos look like I have katharine hepburn syndrome :/ |
| 16:24 |
Tenplus1 |
? |
| 16:24 |
tumeninodes |
parkinsons |
| 16:25 |
red-65516 |
really makes the werid/broken block loading minetest uses stand out |
| 16:25 |
tumeninodes |
it's not "broken"..., it's built that way ; ) |
| 16:26 |
tumeninodes |
broken is the new fixed.... get with it |
| 16:26 |
Tenplus1 |
eheheh |
| 16:27 |
Tenplus1 |
it's a feature :P |
| 16:27 |
rubenwardy |
certainly needs optimisation |
| 16:27 |
tumeninodes |
^exatically |
| 16:27 |
rubenwardy |
I'm having issues with it on CTF |
| 16:27 |
tumeninodes |
rubenwardy interupted |
| 16:27 |
rubenwardy |
it happens randomly, no change in network usage when it does |
| 16:27 |
tumeninodes |
rude! |
| 16:27 |
rubenwardy |
like, always the same number of players |
| 16:28 |
rubenwardy |
but occasionally block loading breaks with the same number of players |
| 16:28 |
rubenwardy |
maybe some players have a slow connection |
| 16:28 |
rubenwardy |
or there's full buffers somewhere |
| 16:28 |
tumeninodes |
pee pee break! |
| 16:29 |
rubenwardy |
"always the same number of players" is kinda redundant when talking about CTF ;) |
| 16:29 |
Jordach |
inb4 someone implements overwatch into MT |
| 16:31 |
benrob0329 |
We'd need animated wield items :P |
| 16:32 |
benrob0329 |
Our tool's are all the same, its sad |
| 16:32 |
rubenwardy |
agreed |
| 16:32 |
benrob0329 |
*tools |
| 16:32 |
rubenwardy |
the damage system sucks |
| 16:32 |
rubenwardy |
I want continuous node dig groups, dammit! |
| 16:32 |
benrob0329 |
Not just that, but I cant change how a tool looks when you use it |
| 16:33 |
Tenplus1 |
that'd be handy |
| 16:33 |
Tenplus1 |
tools do need a bit of work |
| 16:34 |
benrob0329 |
Like, a gun would need to look the same as a sword |
| 16:34 |
benrob0329 |
And a sword the same as a shovel |
| 16:34 |
benrob0329 |
When IRL, they're used very differently |
| 16:36 |
Tenplus1 |
how about the ability to change tool specs in meta so you can add buffs later in the game... speed increase, durability etc |
| 16:36 |
rubenwardy |
you can already |
| 16:36 |
rubenwardy |
stack:set_tool_capabilities({}) |
| 16:37 |
benrob0329 |
Or how about a proper melee system, with blocking and different moves |
| 16:37 |
benrob0329 |
Thatd be fun, but impossible right now |
| 16:38 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
| 16:38 |
Tenplus1 |
ruben, wait... does that allow you to change only that tool in slot or override that tool for oeveryone ? |
| 16:38 |
Calinou |
Jordach: https://lut.im/f7e4b450u9/XNQduCWzGGmIflkw.png, https://lut.im/Kk461gxJXd/oNjVNkECb7J5Dh5F.png |
| 16:38 |
rubenwardy |
Tenplus1, it's per stack |
| 16:38 |
Calinou |
the most important VRchat character ever |
| 16:38 |
rubenwardy |
so only for one individual tool |
| 16:38 |
Tenplus1 |
looks like Man at Arms |
| 16:39 |
Tenplus1 |
so I can change a wooden pick so it can chop obsidian and it'll work ? |
| 16:39 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
| 16:39 |
Tenplus1 |
damn dude, I never knew this was possible... ?!?!?!?!?! |
| 16:40 |
Tenplus1 |
toolranks could do a hell of a lot more with this possible |
| 16:40 |
Tenplus1 |
Calinou: ultimate VR champion: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/news_feeds/icons/mobile/000/029/681/350.jpg |
| 16:40 |
rubenwardy |
Tenplus1, 0.5.0 only though |
| 16:41 |
rubenwardy |
along with slippery |
| 16:41 |
rubenwardy |
two things that I need for CTF :'( |
| 16:41 |
Tenplus1 |
daaaaamn |
| 16:41 |
Tenplus1 |
ok, a feature to look forward to on 0.5 stable :P but glad it exists finally |
| 16:41 |
rubenwardy |
0.5.0 has a ton of features |
| 16:41 |
Tenplus1 |
enchanting tables can help existing tools without adding new one's |
| 16:43 |
rubenwardy |
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUj4dqrXcAEfuu4.jpg:large |
| 16:44 |
benrob0329 |
I think sharpening our swords once in a while would make a world of difference :P |
| 16:44 |
Tenplus1 |
lol |
| 16:44 |
Tenplus1 |
an anvil would be a handy node to place sword into and add more steel/diamond/ore to drepair it |
| 16:45 |
benrob0329 |
Y'know, after hacking down a horde of zombies, that blade might be getting a little dull |
| 16:45 |
tumeninodes |
hacking down zombies is dull |
| 16:45 |
benrob0329 |
Yes, throwing diamonds at it will surly make it sharper :PP |
| 16:45 |
tumeninodes |
:P |
| 16:46 |
benrob0329 |
I mean, our tools are disposable |
| 16:46 |
tumeninodes |
jordan4ibanez was talking about doing a MTG version of pubg on his livestream last night |
| 16:46 |
rubenwardy |
that would be good |
| 16:46 |
rubenwardy |
I thought about it, but cba |
| 16:46 |
tumeninodes |
sure would, would be fun |
| 16:47 |
benrob0329 |
They have no value, you cant sharpen them, they dont last |
| 16:47 |
benrob0329 |
They're all the same |
| 16:47 |
rubenwardy |
having to do the danger zone and shrinking size would be annoying |
| 16:47 |
Tenplus1 |
this is why I like ToolRanks, it gives a tool stats and better wear the more you use it :D |
| 16:48 |
tumeninodes |
would possibly require vmanblechk |
| 16:48 |
benrob0329 |
Heck, even if you could sharpen it they're so cheap why bother? |
| 16:48 |
Tenplus1 |
once we can add buffs to tools they will become more important and worth repairing |
| 16:48 |
tumeninodes |
though a danger zone could maybe be done with damaging "air" |
| 16:49 |
Sokomine |
Tenplus1: take the anvil in my cottages mod :-) it does not require any additional material for repair. just punch the anvil with the tool in with the hammer |
| 16:50 |
Tenplus1 |
hi Sokomine, also nice feature but a bit cheaty :P hammer fixing diamond/crystal tools |
| 16:51 |
Shara |
I won't allow it on my servers either because "cheaty" |
| 16:51 |
Sokomine |
oh yes, hi ten :) and...er...it's a very good hammer! (had to recently change its receipe due to conflicts with signs. vanessae alerted me to the problem) |
| 16:51 |
Tenplus1 |
heh |
| 16:51 |
Shara |
You make one set of diamond tools and never need to replace them again.... not so great |
| 16:51 |
tumeninodes |
I think this would be cool to do a version of in MT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventure_(Atari_2600) |
| 16:51 |
tumeninodes |
!title |
| 16:51 |
MinetestBot |
tumeninodes: Adventure (Atari 2600) - Wikipedia |
| 16:52 |
Tenplus1 |
if I put a bronze axe into anvil I want to add bronze ingot to repair :) |
| 16:52 |
Shara |
^ |
| 16:52 |
Sokomine |
pha. they're great tools :-) (admittedly fixing the hammer with another hammer might be considered a bit cheaty...but...well...*staring at the tons of neatly folded cobble cubes in inventory* any further questions? :) |
| 16:52 |
Tenplus1 |
ehehehehehe |
| 16:52 |
Shara |
:D |
| 16:52 |
Shara |
Game balance!! :( |
| 16:52 |
tumeninodes |
just strike the anvil with the type hammer you want to add |
| 16:53 |
Jordach |
game balance is called clay |
| 16:53 |
tumeninodes |
a diamond sword? use a diamond hammer |
| 16:53 |
red-65516 |
the people that programmed the UI for my router subscribed to the "Just set display:none on stuff we are getting rid of" school of thought |
| 16:53 |
Shara |
Not if hammers repair hammers! |
| 16:53 |
Sokomine |
that'd require further types of hammer. could be done |
| 16:54 |
tumeninodes |
man Shara..., why do you always have to.... think |
| 16:54 |
tumeninodes |
:P |
| 16:54 |
Shara |
I can't help it!! :( |
| 16:54 |
Shara |
I'm sorry! |
| 16:55 |
tumeninodes |
you're wrecking all the fun for us blissfuly ignorant folk |
| 16:55 |
Tenplus1 |
lol |
| 16:55 |
* Sokomine |
fixes sharas brain so that hammers that almost self-repair are considered normal |
| 16:55 |
tumeninodes |
new slogan: "This is Mintest...., This is "normal"" |
| 16:55 |
Shara |
Sokomine: You make quite an assumption there :D |
| 16:55 |
Tenplus1 |
do you have to manually HIT anvil with hammer ? |
| 16:56 |
Sokomine |
anyway...having to add one from the material used for the tool in order to do the repair might be acceptable. still...hitting the anvil multiple times is also fun. tools can last longer. they can be made more expensive without destroying gameplay |
| 16:56 |
Fixer |
finished all supertux races |
| 16:56 |
tumeninodes |
^that was quick |
| 16:56 |
Fixer |
supertuxcart* |
| 16:56 |
Tenplus1 |
nice one fixer :) good game :P |
| 16:56 |
Fixer |
yes, i like it |
| 16:56 |
Tenplus1 |
you played supertux (mario clone) ? |
| 16:56 |
red-65516 |
at least they stopped the ftp server path from being set to root |
| 16:57 |
benrob0329 |
Shara: rn we have the opposite problem though |
| 16:57 |
Shara |
We do? |
| 16:58 |
tumeninodes |
of course, instead of doing all that.... "play" stuff for tools and upgrades, could just do /giveme :D |
| 16:58 |
Shara |
Join a server where you don't have give priv then! :) |
| 16:58 |
tumeninodes |
thpltpltplt |
| 16:58 |
benrob0329 |
Tools have little value, and require other tools to fix |
| 16:58 |
tumeninodes |
there you go again |
| 16:58 |
Shara |
:D |
| 16:59 |
Tenplus1 |
ehehehe |
| 16:59 |
Shara |
You won't ever fix me! |
| 16:59 |
Sokomine |
just...feels better to be able to repair tools and armor. armor is sometimes pretty expensive.. |
| 16:59 |
* Sokomine |
stares at Shara |
| 16:59 |
Shara |
I'm all for repairing, but three should be a cost to repair |
| 16:59 |
tumeninodes |
Shara = sentient MT |
| 16:59 |
* Sokomine |
puts Shara into her anvil :) |
| 16:59 |
Shara |
Ekk! |
| 17:00 |
* Jordach |
has considered tool repair |
| 17:00 |
Shara |
I have tool repair and a different system for getting dye on my subgame to do list |
| 17:00 |
benrob0329 |
Our tools are disposable :P |
| 17:00 |
Jordach |
requires sunlight, a hammer and the tool to fix |
| 17:00 |
Jordach |
10 wear gets added, and 100 removed from the hammer |
| 17:00 |
Shara |
But unless anyone feels like helping me make everything, it won't happen any time soon |
| 17:00 |
Sokomine |
the cost is in theory the hammer getting used. except that the hammer is relatively cheap and can be fixed the same way. so...yes, it's cheap. but it's also fun. and you have to carry hammer+anvil with you :-) |
| 17:00 |
tumeninodes |
sunlight? what if it's dark? |
| 17:00 |
Jordach |
tumeninodes: then it doesnt work :^) |
| 17:01 |
Sokomine |
self-repairing tools using photosynthesis? |
| 17:01 |
Sokomine |
craft your new pick from leaves? |
| 17:01 |
Jordach |
that ones a bit harder |
| 17:01 |
tumeninodes |
blooming hammers |
| 17:01 |
benrob0329 |
Sharpening would slowly eat away at the tool |
| 17:01 |
Tenplus1 |
hole in a tree with magical tool healing powers |
| 17:02 |
tumeninodes |
0_o |
| 17:02 |
Sokomine |
Tenplus1: no. mt is much more technology than magic |
| 17:02 |
benrob0329 |
But seeing as how we still have tools some 50 years later...they last a long time irl |
| 17:02 |
Tenplus1 |
I like magic more than tech |
| 17:02 |
tumeninodes |
especially mine.. they never get used |
| 17:03 |
rubenwardy |
Sokomine: MTG * |
| 17:03 |
tumeninodes |
A good mix of both would be nice |
| 17:03 |
tumeninodes |
..... steampunk |
| 17:03 |
Tenplus1 |
xanadu is medeival survival... the only thing I'd consider tech is the toilet from homedecor :P ahahaha |
| 17:04 |
tumeninodes |
plumbing, BC |
| 17:04 |
Tenplus1 |
exactly :P |
| 17:05 |
tumeninodes |
I'm like super $hitposter today.... where's my cape?! |
| 17:05 |
Tenplus1 |
not all heros wear capes :P hah |
| 17:05 |
benrob0329 |
Well, in medieval times anything they didn't understand got you burned at the stake because "witchery" |
| 17:05 |
tumeninodes |
SOme of us wear... underoos |
| 17:06 |
tumeninodes |
Ohhh??? I've seen some "witchery".... |
| 17:06 |
tumeninodes |
it's in the doors api |
| 17:06 |
Tenplus1 |
how so ? |
| 17:07 |
tumeninodes |
(secret whispery voice), it uses.... "hidden nodes" |
| 17:07 |
Tenplus1 |
ohh that... heh |
| 17:07 |
tumeninodes |
... I'll go get the wood |
| 17:07 |
tumeninodes |
you go get sofar |
| 17:08 |
Shara |
Hehe |
| 17:08 |
* Tenplus1 |
prefers doors redo |
| 17:08 |
tumeninodes |
if he shows up now.... then we KNOW he's a witch |
| 17:08 |
paramat |
ugh |
| 17:08 |
Tenplus1 |
o/ paramat |
| 17:09 |
tumeninodes |
ehem.... yes so.... I am working on some MTG stuff here.... |
| 17:09 |
Shara |
paramat: ugh? |
| 17:10 |
paramat |
i get fed up with players asking for everything that comes into their heads with no consideration for how little time devs have *sigh* |
| 17:10 |
* Sokomine |
renames her anvil to toolsredo |
| 17:10 |
Tenplus1 |
lol sokomine |
| 17:10 |
paramat |
so i have to say 'no' and then i become unpopular =S |
| 17:10 |
Tenplus1 |
paramat: what's being asked ? |
| 17:11 |
* Sokomine |
hides due to the many ideas mentionned in the pause-menu-thread |
| 17:11 |
Shara |
It's why I only ever tried to bother you with things I can give solid use cases for |
| 17:11 |
tumeninodes |
what are feelings about making moss grow on all stone nodes? (stone, stonbrick, stone block |
| 17:11 |
Shara |
Hmm, not sure |
| 17:12 |
Tenplus1 |
nah, mossy cobble is good cause it stops ppl building solely with cobble : |
| 17:12 |
tumeninodes |
paramat, think of it like I do about being a Dad... if I'm unpopular, I am doing my job well |
| 17:12 |
Shara |
I get the issue issue with everyone wanting me to change things on my servers. |
| 17:13 |
paramat |
because i'm the most active dev on github i'm the one saying 'no', so i become the most unpopular |
| 17:13 |
rubenwardy |
issue issue? |
| 17:13 |
Tenplus1 |
I dont mind suggestions, some are funny, some are genuinly good ideas :D |
| 17:13 |
Sokomine |
paramat: there's also a huge difference between "no, sorry, no time to implement" and "no, don't like that at all and would run away screaming if it ever gets merged" :-) there is so much that could be implemented if time where infinite for all of us |
| 17:13 |
tumeninodes |
tell them "NO, it's my server.... not yours.... its mine" but use a Cartman voice |
| 17:13 |
Shara |
I was originally so keen to please so I'd keep any players at all... Now I'm "No", "Nope", "Not happening"... and my site gets spammed with "U SUCK BAD ADMIN" :D |
| 17:14 |
Shara |
Sad for them nothing shows up unless it gets approved... :) |
| 17:14 |
tumeninodes |
that would be an awesome nick.... USUCKBADADMIN |
| 17:14 |
Shara |
Help yourself then :) |
| 17:14 |
red-65516 |
badmin |
| 17:14 |
* Tenplus1 |
grants shara 'badmin' privs |
| 17:15 |
Shara |
Yay |
| 17:15 |
* Shara |
has already used that name elsewhere |
| 17:15 |
tumeninodes |
I can't be an admin, I'm not a masochist |
| 17:15 |
IhrFussel |
Tenplus1, it doesn't happen with carts though...I never stop while driving |
| 17:16 |
Tenplus1 |
I've been on a horse and run around the map and never had issue with stalls |
| 17:16 |
tumeninodes |
masochist (in general use) a person who enjoys an activity that appears to be painful or tedious. |
| 17:16 |
tumeninodes |
"what kind of masochist would take part in such an experiment?" |
| 17:17 |
Sokomine |
hm, no, sorry, i'm afraid you have to revoke that priv again, ten. banning spammers and ignoring not so good ideas does not qualify. randomly banning players for no reason at all might be a better start :-) |
| 17:17 |
rubenwardy |
I'm improving as an admin |
| 17:17 |
Tenplus1 |
same with flying bats... but seems something in lib_mount is amis |
| 17:17 |
rubenwardy |
I no longer kick noobs |
| 17:17 |
rubenwardy |
I simply dig blocks so they fall into lava |
| 17:17 |
tumeninodes |
:D |
| 17:17 |
* Sokomine |
hands the priv on to rubenwardy :) |
| 17:17 |
tumeninodes |
lava sword... covers noobs with lava |
| 17:17 |
Sokomine |
(from a builder's perspective :)) |
| 17:17 |
Shara |
rubenwardy: you do that to non-noobs too. And team mates! |
| 17:17 |
* Calinou |
connected to Minetest CTF |
| 17:17 |
Calinou |
new maps :D |
| 17:18 |
rubenwardy |
oh yeah |
| 17:18 |
rubenwardy |
I did it to Shara because it was funny |
| 17:18 |
rubenwardy |
then nicked her steel sword and gun |
| 17:18 |
Calinou |
I fell into a hole, lol |
| 17:18 |
rubenwardy |
but felt bad so tried to give it back to her |
| 17:18 |
Calinou |
can you suicide? |
| 17:18 |
rubenwardy |
/killme |
| 17:18 |
Calinou |
ah, yeah |
| 17:18 |
rubenwardy |
has a KD cost though |
| 17:18 |
rubenwardy |
as death |
| 17:18 |
Shara |
/ban rubenwardy sabotage against own team members |
| 17:18 |
Shara |
:D |
| 17:19 |
Sokomine |
*g* |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
ah nice, you don't see nametags through walls anymore |
| 17:19 |
Tenplus1 |
ahh did you use the entity nametag mod ? |
| 17:19 |
rubenwardy |
yes! |
| 17:19 |
rubenwardy |
I actually submitted some optimisations to it |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
I had an idea for encouraging fighting rather than running away… |
| 17:19 |
rubenwardy |
some still pending, need to fix some bugs first |
| 17:19 |
Calinou |
perhaps give 5 HP on kill if you're low on health |
| 17:20 |
rubenwardy |
yeah, I was thinking about that. Gamastutra did an article on that |
| 17:20 |
Shara |
Calinou: no need to give the best players even more advantage |
| 17:20 |
Tenplus1 |
so you hit anothe rplayer and gain their lost hp |
| 17:20 |
Tenplus1 |
there can be only one !!!!! |
| 17:20 |
Shara |
There's some people who never seem to die unless ganged up on, and then they kill most they are fighting |
| 17:21 |
tumeninodes |
Calinou, does it have anything to do with the Russian method during WW2? |
| 17:22 |
Calinou |
hmm, I'm really slow in water |
| 17:22 |
Calinou |
do you have that problem too? |
| 17:22 |
Calinou |
I also sink very slowly |
| 17:22 |
Shara |
Found water fine. |
| 17:22 |
Calinou |
I think it's that FPS dependency bug |
| 17:22 |
tumeninodes |
sinking slowly isn't normally a problem people complain about |
| 17:22 |
Calinou |
I have 373 FPS right now :P |
| 17:22 |
paramat |
Sokomine no problem, you're the least annoying suggester =) |
| 17:22 |
tumeninodes |
WTH?! How do people get such high fps???? |
| 17:23 |
Calinou |
the map isn't very complex |
| 17:23 |
tumeninodes |
I top out at 60 if I look straight up in the air |
| 17:23 |
Calinou |
plus, I have a GTX 1080 |
| 17:23 |
tumeninodes |
in creative |
| 17:23 |
Calinou |
440 when looking in the air here |
| 17:23 |
tumeninodes |
ohhhhhhh |
| 17:23 |
tumeninodes |
I got a rock |
| 17:23 |
Tenplus1 |
water seems fine |
| 17:23 |
Calinou |
bought before the mining surge :^) |
| 17:24 |
rubenwardy |
max_fps :) |
| 17:24 |
Tenplus1 |
anyone using intel gfx, try using daily build of l/x/ubuntu 18.04, gave me major fps boost on minetest |
| 17:24 |
rubenwardy |
support fracking miners |
| 17:24 |
Calinou |
yeah, but that increases input lag and decreases smoothness :P |
| 17:24 |
tumeninodes |
I definitely need to invest in a decent dektop |
| 17:24 |
paramat |
i must say thanks to rubenwardy for being around on github to also say 'no', at least i'm not alone |
| 17:24 |
Calinou |
I can easily notice the difference between a 60 FPS cap and a 250 one |
| 17:24 |
Calinou |
(or fps_max 0, which is best) |
| 17:24 |
tumeninodes |
well... no one likes rubenwardy either so.... |
| 17:24 |
tumeninodes |
:P |
| 17:25 |
rubenwardy |
aww |
| 17:25 |
tumeninodes |
I hear they're calling you "the NO brothers" |
| 17:25 |
tumeninodes |
:D |
| 17:26 |
tumeninodes |
disclaimer: /me has not slept since the previous morning |
| 17:27 |
tumeninodes |
https://imgur.com/a/rxUyM |
| 17:27 |
tumeninodes |
!title |
| 17:27 |
MinetestBot |
tumeninodes: moss everywhere - Album on Imgur |
| 17:28 |
IhrFussel |
Does the boats mod use code from lib_mount?? |
| 17:28 |
tumeninodes |
that looks gewd |
| 17:29 |
Tenplus1 |
fussel, no... boats uses its own control system |
| 17:29 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, does boost_cart use code from lib_mount? |
| 17:30 |
Krock |
what's lib_mount? |
| 17:30 |
tumeninodes |
https://imgur.com/EnD7YrT |
| 17:30 |
tumeninodes |
!title |
| 17:30 |
MinetestBot |
tumeninodes: Imgur: The magic of the Internet |
| 17:31 |
tumeninodes |
what??? |
| 17:31 |
Krock |
!mod lib_mount |
| 17:31 |
MinetestBot |
Krock: Could not find anything. |
| 17:31 |
Krock |
IhrFussel, please explain |
| 17:31 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, a library for mounting entities |
| 17:31 |
Krock |
never heard of it so - no. |
| 17:31 |
tumeninodes |
attach? |
| 17:31 |
paramat |
moss on all stone? not for MTG, too much added complexity, sorry |
| 17:32 |
tumeninodes |
:'( .... I hate you |
| 17:32 |
tumeninodes |
:P |
| 17:32 |
paramat |
mod stuff |
| 17:32 |
tumeninodes |
I figured that already anyway :) |
| 17:34 |
tumeninodes |
I remember there was a old mod had rust and rot... planning on adding those, using texture overlays to accomplish rather than the way mossycobble is done now |
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| 17:35 |
Tenplus1 |
hi evergreen |
| 17:35 |
EvergreenTree |
o/ |
| 17:42 |
tumeninodes |
benrob0329: just remembered D00med's mod with a dalek mob https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=15109&hilit=rust |
| 17:43 |
benrob0329 |
Looks like a pretty dirpy dalek Tbh :^) |
| 17:43 |
tumeninodes |
hehe |
| 17:43 |
tumeninodes |
already made tho |
| 17:43 |
Tenplus1 |
*derp* exterminate! |
| 17:44 |
benrob0329 |
Ex-derp-inaaaate!!! |
| 17:45 |
Tenplus1 |
klol |
| 17:46 |
benrob0329 |
MooGNU lol |
| 17:46 |
Tenplus1 |
I likeit |
| 17:46 |
tumeninodes |
that yak is creepy... no way around it |
| 17:47 |
benrob0329 |
But its not a yak.. |
| 17:47 |
benrob0329 |
Its a Gnu |
| 17:47 |
tumeninodes |
... it's a yak |
| 17:47 |
benrob0329 |
Gnu, like Free Software Foundation |
| 17:47 |
tumeninodes |
I know what it is.... |
| 17:48 |
tumeninodes |
it's a yak |
| 17:48 |
benrob0329 |
Like the GNU Public License |
| 17:48 |
benrob0329 |
And GlibC |
| 17:48 |
tumeninodes |
benrob..... I know |
| 17:48 |
benrob0329 |
And Coreutils |
| 17:48 |
tumeninodes |
it's still... a yak |
| 17:48 |
tumeninodes |
creepier looking than ktuberling |
| 17:49 |
benrob0329 |
If it looks like a Gnu, smells like a Gnu, and sounds like a Gnu |
| 17:49 |
benrob0329 |
Its a Gnu |
| 17:49 |
Tenplus1 |
ehe |
| 17:49 |
tumeninodes |
for some bizarr reason, every Gnu Linux mascot is cringe worthy and unsettling |
| 17:49 |
Krock |
benrob0329, performing the duck test on a gnu ^^ |
| 17:49 |
tumeninodes |
... btw |
| 17:49 |
tumeninodes |
yak |
| 17:50 |
benrob0329 |
*sigh* fine, reference photos |
| 17:50 |
tumeninodes |
photoshopped |
| 17:50 |
benrob0329 |
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ftraciemcbridewriter.files.wordpress.com%2F2012%2F03%2Fgnu.jpg&f=1 |
| 17:51 |
tumeninodes |
... like I said.... it'sa yak |
| 17:51 |
Krock |
more relevant is whether it moos or not |
| 17:51 |
tumeninodes |
someone really needs to get that yak a cup |
| 17:52 |
Jordach |
m o o o o o o |
| 17:52 |
benrob0329 |
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Flogonoid.com%2Fimages%2Fgnu-logo.png&f=1 |
| 17:52 |
benrob0329 |
Its a gnu |
| 17:52 |
tumeninodes |
yaaaaaaaaaak |
| 17:52 |
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| 17:52 |
benrob0329 |
Gnuuuuuu |
| 17:52 |
Tenplus1 |
hi CWz |
| 17:52 |
Tenplus1 |
it's a gnu.... that's what I drew it as :D |
| 17:52 |
tumeninodes |
anyone jumping in right now, is gonna think we're all crazy..... oh...., wait :/ |
| 17:53 |
benrob0329 |
We ARE all crazy |
| 17:53 |
Tenplus1 |
yup :P |
| 17:53 |
tumeninodes |
well, why else would anyone think a yak is a gnu |
| 17:54 |
benrob0329 |
Why else would anyone think a Gnu is a Yak |
| 17:54 |
tumeninodes |
let's just agree... that you're wrong... and I'm right |
| 17:54 |
tumeninodes |
then we can all be friends |
| 17:54 |
benrob0329 |
Lol |
| 17:54 |
benrob0329 |
Gnu |
| 17:55 |
Tenplus1 |
*fwap* |
| 17:55 |
Tenplus1 |
lol |
| 17:55 |
tumeninodes |
two on one |
| 17:55 |
Tenplus1 |
defo a Gnu |
| 17:55 |
tumeninodes |
seems I have the advantage |
| 17:56 |
benrob0329 |
Then you are definitely crazy |
| 17:56 |
tumeninodes |
this gnu stuff is so far offtopic |
| 17:56 |
benrob0329 |
Otherwise why would you think a Gnu is a Yak? |
| 17:57 |
benrob0329 |
Its from a mod soo... |
| 17:57 |
tumeninodes |
so, because it's from a "gnu mod", it'sa "gnu"? |
| 17:57 |
tumeninodes |
you're whacked |
| 17:58 |
benrob0329 |
Suuurre |
| 17:58 |
* tumeninodes |
is making a yak mod |
| 17:58 |
Tenplus1 |
lololol |
| 17:58 |
benrob0329 |
Yak_Redo |
| 17:58 |
tumeninodes |
and it will destroy your puny little ficticious gnu mod |
| 17:59 |
Tenplus1 |
ahahaha |
| 17:59 |
Tenplus1 |
bring it on :) maybe we'll get it in default |
| 17:59 |
benrob0329 |
First PR |
| 17:59 |
tumeninodes |
the gnu/yak wars |
| 17:59 |
benrob0329 |
>rename node to Gnu |
| 17:59 |
tumeninodes |
:| |
| 17:59 |
tumeninodes |
ok... really? |
| 18:00 |
tumeninodes |
2d.... override nodename gnu |
| 18:00 |
benrob0329 |
I've gotta procrastinate somehow |
| 18:01 |
tumeninodes |
a yak has fleas... which it will spread to the gnu |
| 18:01 |
tumeninodes |
causing it to impale itself trying to bite them |
| 18:01 |
tumeninodes |
end of |
| 18:01 |
benrob0329 |
What, work on my tardis mod or videos that desperately need a part two? Nah, I'll just argue about cattle |
| 18:02 |
tumeninodes |
IDK... why don;t you just make a gnudis |
| 18:02 |
tumeninodes |
oh wait... thats my job... (dissssssss) |
| 18:03 |
tumeninodes |
ok... afk before we get kicked :D |
| 18:03 |
Tenplus1 |
:P |
| 18:07 |
benrob0329 |
Alright, ttyl o/ |
| 18:09 |
IhrFussel |
Okay now I can confirm it's definitely not affecting boost_cart... another player was riding a cart and I was driving with my car directly behind them and my car still stopped while the cart didn't |
| 18:10 |
IhrFussel |
Could physical = false be the reason??? |
| 18:11 |
Tenplus1 |
wait, the car entities arent physical = true ? |
| 18:11 |
IhrFussel |
They are, carts are not true |
| 18:12 |
Tenplus1 |
oh, carts get stuck easily going uphill if they are true, so false it is |
| 18:12 |
Tenplus1 |
they are controlled node by node so it's ok |
| 18:13 |
IhrFussel |
But I want to test if cars also don't stop anymore when I put physical = false |
| 18:13 |
Tenplus1 |
they may end up going through nodes and walls |
| 18:14 |
IhrFussel |
Just for testing...if that fixes it now then the problem is something about physical entities touching "solid" stuff |
| 18:15 |
Tenplus1 |
so long as stepheight = 1.1 then it should drive without stopping unless you go into a 2 high wall |
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| 18:16 |
Tenplus1 |
wb evergreen |
| 18:17 |
IhrFussel |
But it can stop as soon as I cross a certain speed |
| 18:18 |
Tenplus1 |
can you post link to cars mod, will check it out |
| 18:18 |
Wayward_One |
hi all :) |
| 18:19 |
Tenplus1 |
hey wayward |
| 18:19 |
IhrFussel |
Tenplus1, you mean lib_mount? Since that's where all the movement is calculated |
| 18:20 |
IhrFussel |
https://github.com/blert2112/lib_mount/blob/master/init.lua |
| 18:21 |
IhrFussel |
Or both https://github.com/blert2112/vehicle_mash |
| 18:21 |
IhrFussel |
Okay so with physical = false I fell right through all nodes |
| 18:22 |
Jordach |
why the fuck does hudbars crash on start up sometimes |
| 18:22 |
Raven262 |
I hate building roofs from wool. Does anybody else too? |
| 18:22 |
Raven262 |
Just asking. |
| 18:23 |
Tenplus1 |
nil checks I think Jordach, was one of the fixes I did on my frk of it... but a tad out of date now |
| 18:25 |
Jordach |
Tenplus1: from git> $ diff -s init.lua init_ori.lua |
| 18:25 |
Jordach |
Files init.lua and init_ori.lua are identical |
| 18:25 |
Jordach |
ori is on github |
| 18:25 |
Jordach |
fucking memory has a bit flip |
| 18:25 |
Jordach |
i fucking bet it |
| 18:26 |
Tenplus1 |
?? |
| 18:26 |
Jordach |
it was working fine an hour ago |
| 18:26 |
Jordach |
without a single change to that file |
| 18:26 |
Tenplus1 |
weird |
| 18:27 |
* Tenplus1 |
builds dirt roofs |
| 18:27 |
Tenplus1 |
fussel, that lib_mount is over a year old... am sure there was a newer one than that... |
| 18:28 |
Jordach |
the crash fucks off if it's loaded before another mod |
| 18:28 |
Jordach |
wat |
| 18:28 |
Jordach |
WAT |
| 18:29 |
Tenplus1 |
what error you getting ? |
| 18:29 |
Jordach |
nil checks |
| 18:29 |
Jordach |
my suspicion is load order |
| 18:30 |
Tenplus1 |
I remmeber having to force some vars on_join_player for it to behave itself |
| 18:30 |
Jordach |
got the code? |
| 18:31 |
Tenplus1 |
might still be on my git page: github.com/tenplus1 |
| 18:31 |
Tenplus1 |
like I said tho, a litlte out of date... wuzzy has added a lot since |
| 18:31 |
IhrFussel |
I find no other version/fork of that mod... I was able to drive for about 1 minute without stalls again, then suddenly the stalls started... what could it be linked to :/ |
| 18:31 |
Tenplus1 |
fussel, could be a variable not being reset properly when driving and it's messing up driving after |
| 18:32 |
Tenplus1 |
https://github.com/tenplus1/hudbars |
| 18:33 |
Tenplus1 |
think I added gui_scale fixes to that one too |
| 18:42 |
IhrFussel |
Tenplus1, DUDE...you may be onto something |
| 18:43 |
IhrFussel |
I just left the car while moving and since I re-entered the stalling started |
| 18:43 |
Tenplus1 |
if you pick up the car and place does it drive ok again ? |
| 18:44 |
Tenplus1 |
if yes then it's an entity var, if no then it's an engine var |
| 18:45 |
IhrFussel |
Or it could be a mod var that doesn't reset until restart |
| 18:45 |
Tenplus1 |
yup, engine var :P |
| 18:46 |
Jordach |
Tenplus1: bug |
| 18:46 |
Jordach |
intro was handling hudbars init |
| 18:47 |
Jordach |
which by changing depends |
| 18:47 |
Jordach |
i moved the load order |
| 18:47 |
Tenplus1 |
ahh |
| 18:47 |
Tenplus1 |
does bug remain if you use my forked version ? |
| 18:47 |
Jordach |
it's my own variant |
| 18:47 |
Jordach |
it's got better everything |
| 18:47 |
Tenplus1 |
ohh, gotcha :P ehehe |
| 18:48 |
Tenplus1 |
I'd imagine a missing nil check would fix if it's a dependency thing |
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| 18:50 |
Tenplus1 |
wb |
| 18:54 |
Jordach |
why is hud text centered and not left to right |
| 18:55 |
Tenplus1 |
dunno |
| 18:55 |
rubenwardy |
hud, use alignment |
| 18:55 |
rubenwardy |
Jordach, use alignment * |
| 18:55 |
rubenwardy |
https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/en/chapters/hud.html#alignment |
| 18:55 |
rubenwardy |
it just defaults to 0,0 |
| 19:00 |
* Wayward_One |
's new bluetooth keyboard finally came in :D https://imgur.com/kAUXz6M |
| 19:01 |
Jordach |
tableteer |
| 19:01 |
Jordach |
reeeee |
| 19:01 |
Tenplus1 |
noice |
| 19:03 |
IhrFussel |
Tenplus1, I added now a workaround "if self.v ~= 0 then minetest.chat_send_player(name,"Please stop the vehicle first.") return end" |
| 19:03 |
Tenplus1 |
does it work ? :P |
| 19:03 |
Tenplus1 |
failing that when entering vehicle it can auto=-set self.v to 0 :@D |
| 19:04 |
IhrFussel |
Didn't test it yet, but it seems to be linked to the velocity lib_mount calculates ... vehicle_mash just adds v = 0 in the entity registration |
| 19:05 |
Tenplus1 |
but isnt reset when you enter vehicle |
| 19:05 |
IhrFussel |
Doesn't seem like it... I could maybe add self.v = 0 where the driver is attached |
| 19:07 |
Tenplus1 |
yeah |
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| 19:13 |
Tenplus1 |
hi Megaf |
| 19:14 |
Megaf_ |
Hi Tenplus1 |
| 19:14 |
Tenplus1 |
o/ |
| 19:14 |
Megaf_ |
Nice seeing you. You havent been online as much as you used to |
| 19:15 |
Sokomine |
Raven262: why do you build wool roofs then if you don't like it? |
| 19:15 |
_Megaf |
Tenplus1, capital T? |
| 19:16 |
Tenplus1 |
am on different computer today :) test driving Lubuntu 18.04 :P |
| 19:16 |
_Megaf |
aha |
| 19:16 |
_Megaf |
Tenplus1, Please do try pure Debian |
| 19:17 |
Tenplus1 |
i have, it was ok... prefer the ubuntu debian mix :D and latest drivers/mesa is giving me a nice boost |
| 19:17 |
_Megaf |
and for repos, use deb http://deb.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free and stable-updates and stable-backports |
| 19:18 |
Sokomine |
Wayward_One: um. a bit small. wouldn't want to type on that keyboard |
| 19:19 |
Tenplus1 |
pinky typing :D |
| 19:20 |
Wayward_One |
lol |
| 19:20 |
* tumeninodes |
dozed off heh... ttyl everyone |
| 19:20 |
Sokomine |
sleep well, tumeninodes |
| 19:20 |
_Megaf |
cya tumeninodes |
| 19:20 |
Wayward_One |
it definitely beats the on-screen keyboard |
| 19:20 |
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| 19:20 |
Tenplus1 |
my onscreen kb has swype to quickly type things :D |
| 19:22 |
Wayward_One |
nice :) not sure if windows has something like that though |
| 19:22 |
CWz |
Wayward_One, if Timon and Pumba were force to fight to the death, what would you be eating dinner that night? |
| 19:23 |
Tenplus1 |
lol |
| 19:23 |
Wayward_One |
lol, no idea xD |
| 19:24 |
Tenplus1 |
pumba would be tastier so I'd help timone :P |
| 19:25 |
Tenplus1 |
fun fact, mobs animals have the hog set as mobs_animal:pumba :P |
| 19:25 |
Raven262 |
Sokomine, I had no other choice! |
| 19:25 |
Raven262 |
And a part of me died then. |
| 19:25 |
Raven262 |
It is a sad story, I know. |
| 19:26 |
Tenplus1 |
? |
| 19:26 |
CWz |
question number 2: If An alligator ate a sheep at exactly 8:30PM on the Monday after Christmas, What day would the Alligator get hit by a car? |
| 19:26 |
Raven262 |
Tenplus1, the wool roofs discussion. |
| 19:26 |
Tenplus1 |
ahh |
| 19:27 |
IhrFussel |
Tenplus1, mob_horse doesn't seem to have that check either? Or my version of it doesn't at least |
| 19:27 |
Tenplus1 |
latest from github ? |
| 19:28 |
red-001 |
#6982 |
| 19:28 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6982 -- [WIP] Make settings files per-world. by red-001 |
| 19:28 |
IhrFussel |
Not latest =P a bit older ... I added self.v = 0 self.v2 = 0 before attaching to the horse ... let's see if that fixes it |
| 19:28 |
Tenplus1 |
kewl :P if it does I'll add to git |
| 19:30 |
CWz |
Treemonster molest non monster mobs, i found that funny |
| 19:30 |
CWz |
The Treemobster is like the grumpy nabour chasing the nabourhood hoodlems off his lawn |
| 19:30 |
CWz |
would be funny if he had a dedicated sound for that |
| 19:31 |
Tenplus1 |
"get orf my lawn!" |
| 19:31 |
Sokomine |
Raven262: playing on AspireMints wool-only-server? |
| 19:31 |
Raven262 |
No, on RC creative :P |
| 19:31 |
CWz |
wool only server? |
| 19:31 |
Raven262 |
And I couldn't find a right coloured material for my roof. |
| 19:31 |
Wayward_One |
"hippity hoppity, get off my property" |
| 19:32 |
Sokomine |
CWz: *g* that could indeed be fun |
| 19:32 |
Sokomine |
CWz: aspiremint runs a small server where the entire world consists of wool |
| 19:32 |
Tenplus1 |
I think I set the "specific_attack" flag for that one to attack animals as well as players/npc |
| 19:32 |
Raven262 |
They don't have coloured stone bricks on RC, and they also have a very limited collection of blue and violet bricks. |
| 19:32 |
Sokomine |
Raven262: my cottages mod has a lot of roofing materials. some are taken from homedecor |
| 19:33 |
Raven262 |
Any violet roofing? |
| 19:33 |
Raven262 |
So after I saw that violet wool has a very strong colour. I had used blue wool. |
| 19:34 |
CWz |
hmm i think i make a shrek mob that says get out of my swamp |
| 19:35 |
Raven262 |
CWz, And a donkey mob that... wait there are no dragon mobs are there? |
| 19:35 |
Tenplus1 |
ooh nice, ethereal has a swamp biome with no mobs :D |
| 19:35 |
Sokomine |
there ought to be more friendly mobs |
| 19:36 |
Raven262 |
Nah people like to kill, not to make friends. |
| 19:37 |
Sokomine |
:-( |
| 19:37 |
* Sokomine |
wants to be friends with most mobs |
| 19:38 |
Sokomine |
imagine dms beeing tamed and stopping destroying all with their fireballs. they could be employed for road building |
| 19:38 |
Raven262 |
I wonder, if the point is not killing them, why do friendly mobs drop rewards for getting rid of them? |
| 19:45 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy: +1.0 for alignment seems left to right |
| 19:45 |
Jordach |
and -1.0 seems like right to left in 0.5-dev |
| 19:46 |
rubenwardy |
I'm not sure what you mean |
| 19:46 |
rubenwardy |
left to right meaning left aligned or right aligned? |
| 19:46 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy: the left edge to stay in place is 1.0 |
| 19:46 |
Jordach |
for the right edge to be the text anchor is -1.0 |
| 19:55 |
Tenplus1 |
back laters :D |
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| 20:04 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy: -1 = right to left text |
| 20:04 |
Jordach |
+1 = left to right |
| 20:04 |
rubenwardy |
will have to test |
| 20:04 |
rubenwardy |
I may have done this with an image |
| 20:04 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy: they're the wrong way around in 0.5-dev |
| 20:05 |
rubenwardy |
oh |
| 20:05 |
rubenwardy |
compared to 0.4.16? |
| 20:05 |
Jordach |
probably |
| 20:05 |
Jordach |
can't test |
| 20:05 |
rubenwardy |
I use 0.5.0 for everything except CTF dev or connecting to servers |
| 20:06 |
Jordach |
i love 0.5-dev at the moment |
| 20:06 |
Jordach |
no tableteers to ruin servers |
| 20:07 |
Jordach |
except i do have a 0.5 apk |
| 20:07 |
Jordach |
:^) |
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| 20:18 |
Megaf_ |
I will have to reinstall my system because I made the mistake of using blocks too large for Ext4 when creating the filesystem. Now I am running out of inodes all the time. So there we have it, a lesson. When installing Debian and using Ext FS and asked about FS type, between news, normal, largefile, do not chose largefile, never! For normal use and ok performance use normal, for max efficiency in storage size use news. |
| 20:20 |
Megaf_ |
and Don't upgrade your whole system to repos such as backports nor experimental |
| 20:20 |
Megaf_ |
Because there is a big change of packages breaking. |
| 20:20 |
Jordach |
that's why people use ubuntu |
| 20:21 |
Megaf_ |
Well, I new about the block size already. I just wanted to be sure how and when it would run out of inodes. |
| 20:21 |
Megaf_ |
If you just use the normal install, and not expert install on Debian, you will not have to worry about this. It will jsut work. Like on Ubuntu |
| 20:22 |
Calinou |
changing the blocksize is a bad idea in the first place |
| 20:22 |
Calinou |
the default is 4K IIRC? |
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| 20:24 |
* Megaf_ |
does curl http://saimei.ftp.acc.umu.se/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/9.3.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-dvd/firmware-9.3.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso > /dev/sdb |
| 20:25 |
Megaf_ |
Calinou, Not sure, I guess so |
| 20:25 |
Calinou |
you don't need to use dd for that? |
| 20:25 |
Calinou |
also, why not netinstall? |
| 20:26 |
red-001 |
hooked up a small script to take a screenshot every time I die in ctf |
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* red-001 |
waits for linux to run out of free space |
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Megaf_ |
Block size: 4096 |
| 20:26 |
Megaf_ |
hum |
| 20:26 |
Megaf_ |
Im using 4K blocksize |
| 20:27 |
Megaf_ |
so problem is number of inodes per block? |
| 20:27 |
Megaf_ |
Calinou, curl can do that, no need for dd. For years I've been just curling debian ISOs directly to USB sticks |
| 20:27 |
Megaf_ |
first distro to support this out of the box was Mandriva back in 2008 or so |
| 20:28 |
Megaf_ |
and no netinstall because Im not sure if my wifi will work with built in drivers durring isntall |
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Megaf_ |
% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current |
| 20:28 |
Megaf_ |
Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed |
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Megaf_ |
25 3468M 25 889M 0 0 3734k 0 0:15:51 0:04:03 0:11:48 3028k |
| 20:28 |
Megaf_ |
limited by flash write speed |
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Megaf_ |
Welcome back ThomasMonroe |
| 20:30 |
Megaf_ |
Thomas-S, Did you catch my message last time about streets signs? |
| 20:30 |
Megaf |
clear |
| 20:30 |
ThomasMonroe |
heya Megaf |
| 20:31 |
Megaf |
clear, wrong window... |
| 20:31 |
Megaf |
ThomasMonroe, I'm planning here an automated build infrastructure to build Minetest builds for specific OSes and CPUs |
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| 20:32 |
Megaf |
So I was thinking about supporting 32 and 64 bit for Debian 8, Debian 9, Last two versions of Ubuntu and maybe Fedora |
| 20:33 |
Megaf |
for each 32 bit I would optimize for AMD K6, Pentium II, AMD Athlon XP and Pentium 4 |
| 20:34 |
Megaf |
for each 64 build I would optimize for Ahtlon 64, Core2Duo, AMD Phenom, Core i family |
| 20:35 |
ThomasMonroe |
nice |
| 20:35 |
Megaf |
Well, more likely I would just make a binary for each arch compatible with any Linux |
| 20:37 |
Megaf |
<red-001> hooked up a small script to take a screenshot every time I die in ctf |
| 20:37 |
Megaf |
* red-001 waits for linux to run out of free space |
| 20:37 |
Megaf |
screenshots are tiny |
| 20:39 |
Thomas-S |
Megaf, I didn't receive a message regarding street signs, sorry. |
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| 20:41 |
Megaf |
Thomas-S, So, when I type sign in the inventory, i was expeting to see those streets signs, but none show up |
| 20:41 |
Megaf |
not sure why |
| 20:42 |
Megaf |
Welcome back lisac |
| 20:42 |
lisac |
hey Megaf |
| 20:42 |
Megaf |
brb, gonna grab more coffee |
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Thomas-S |
They aren't craftable in the crafting grid, you can only get them by using the streets workshop. We have more than 100 signs in total (I guess), so having them all showing up would be quite uncomfortable. |
| 20:43 |
Thomas-S |
In creative (priv or mode), you can directly get the signs out of the workshop without supplying ingredients. |
| 20:45 |
Megaf |
Oh, I see |
| 20:45 |
red-001 |
Megaf, only 250 mbs left |
| 20:46 |
red-001 |
need to delete some stuff |
| 20:46 |
Megaf |
that's the reason then |
| 20:46 |
Megaf |
% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current |
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Megaf |
Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed |
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Megaf |
100 3468M 100 3468M 0 0 3002k 0 0:19:43 0:19:43 --:--:-- 3835k |
| 20:46 |
Megaf |
reinstall OS time, cya all, will be back once I finished |
| 21:07 |
red-001 |
oh I think I might have figured out that werid client |
| 21:08 |
red-001 |
someone added an auto forward key |
| 21:08 |
red-001 |
so it must have just been a cliented modded to disable priv checks using that feature |
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| 21:09 |
red-001 |
would explain the long straight paths that only get changed every so often then the person running it logs in |
| 21:10 |
red-001 |
not sure if this was a key mapping in 0.4.17-dev through, if it's not then this thoery goes out the window |
| 21:11 |
Jordach |
autorun was added recently |
| 21:13 |
Shara |
red-001: already thought about that, but wasn't sure if it actually got added or not |
| 21:14 |
Shara |
I couldn't see an option for it in the most recent build I have |
| 21:14 |
* Shara |
actually checked |
| 21:14 |
red-001 |
is more grass getting spawned now or something? |
| 21:14 |
Shara |
Don't think so |
| 21:15 |
Shara |
Jordach: how recently was autorun added and where do you turn it on? |
| 21:16 |
Jordach |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L85 |
| 21:16 |
Shara |
hmmm |
| 21:19 |
paramat |
autoforward doesn't have a keymapping by default |
| 21:23 |
paramat |
autoforward was added Sep 2015 |
| 21:24 |
red-001 |
it's pretty cheaty when combinded with auto jump |
| 21:25 |
paramat |
why? |
| 21:26 |
red-001 |
makes crossing large distances way easier |
| 21:26 |
Sokomine |
red-001: auto forward is nothing strange. i love that key and use it frequently. sometimes players observing my char complain about it not moving its feet. but that's not very important i think. not ruin my hands and keyboard are of more value |
| 21:27 |
shivajiva |
but it has potential for abuse as red is pointing out |
| 21:27 |
paramat |
you would soon run into a 2 node high obstacle |
| 21:27 |
Sokomine |
still requires aiming at the right direction and turning it off in time |
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| 21:28 |
Megaf |
There, system installed |
| 21:28 |
Megaf |
How long did I took? |
| 21:28 |
paramat |
however it could cause issues, something to consider |
| 21:28 |
Sokomine |
abuse? making people force to press keys for extended periods of time without any gain is abuse |
| 21:28 |
red-001 |
whats the setting for auto jumping? |
| 21:28 |
shivajiva |
say if it was used on a client that isn't honouring clip |
| 21:28 |
red-001 |
could have sworn that android had that |
| 21:29 |
Sokomine |
shivajiva: and? that's how i fly through my test worlds and check if everything is working out ok |
| 21:29 |
paramat |
android autojump is actually hardcoded, should probably be a server setting |
| 21:29 |
red-001 |
wait so PC players can't use it? |
| 21:29 |
Sokomine |
would love to have android autojump as an option on the normal client as well |
| 21:29 |
red-001 |
that doesn't make much sense |
| 21:30 |
red-001 |
it would be an awesome setting to have |
| 21:30 |
paramat |
indeed it should be available for desktop too |
| 21:30 |
Sokomine |
and autorun be more promoted :-) there are always occasions when you need to cover a large distance |
| 21:30 |
shivajiva |
not something you want your players to do if map size is an issue though |
| 21:31 |
paramat |
see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/179476d8330ff0fd03c3c95bbb8ea0f55e5ad2ed/src/localplayer.cpp#L289 |
| 21:31 |
red-001 |
honestly pretty annoyed no-one told me about this before lol |
| 21:31 |
paramat |
i wrote that comment =) |
| 21:31 |
Sokomine |
it doesn't really have to do with map size. a player starting that and going offline would soon end up either dead through fall dammage or trapped forever in the next best hole. combined with fly and fast it might be diffrent. i only do that in my local test worlds |
| 21:32 |
paramat |
also see #6138 |
| 21:32 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6138 -- Camera: Fix wieldmesh glitch after teleporting by kilbith |
| 21:32 |
paramat |
oops |
| 21:32 |
paramat |
#6183 |
| 21:32 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6183 -- Going up stairs is faster on Android (faster swim and stepheight advantages) |
| 21:32 |
red-001 |
well why not let everyone use it? |
| 21:33 |
Sokomine |
the autorun feature is mostly useful when following a player who wants to show you his/her build. also prevents the player to be from scolded too much if the building is not up to the effort of travelling there :-) |
| 21:33 |
red-001 |
(would be kinda unfair to android) |
| 21:33 |
Shara |
Sokomine: the person logging in multiple players at once in my server from an IP address that is a VPS provider is noclipping through walls without moving their feet to try and generate as much map as they can |
| 21:33 |
red-001 |
after all they do have to deal with horrible controls |
| 21:33 |
Shara |
Autorun is directly assisting with this |
| 21:33 |
Shara |
So yes, there is potential abuse |
| 21:34 |
Shara |
The tactic seems to be hacky client to enable noclip, then point character some direction and autorun |
| 21:34 |
Shara |
Then leave it |
| 21:34 |
red-001 |
Shara, I mean I doubt they wouldn't find a way to do it anyways if they are the sort that buys multiple vps just to mess with a server |
| 21:34 |
Shara |
red-001: well, seems it's not just me as they have been sighted on other servers |
| 21:35 |
IhrFussel |
So auto forward causes that weird "step by step" movement without sending any arrow keys? |
| 21:35 |
red-001 |
ops wrong off |
| 21:36 |
paramat |
we can now set player stepheight from a mod so mods can create this 'autojump' |
| 21:36 |
* shivajiva |
looks the other way and tries not to smirk |
| 21:36 |
red-001 |
please don't |
| 21:36 |
Shara |
OVH and Linode are where the IP addresses go so far. Confirmed up to 7 players signed in at once. |
| 21:37 |
red-001 |
movement being server sided is always a mess |
| 21:37 |
red-001 |
(see carts and boats) |
| 21:37 |
IhrFussel |
I have a script that watches the map size closely now |
| 21:37 |
IhrFussel |
So 28. Jan 21:58:48 CET 2018 -> 18134 MB |
| 21:37 |
IhrFussel |
So 28. Jan 22:28:48 CET 2018 -> 18137 MB |
| 21:38 |
Shara |
Oh look, there's another attempt happenign right now |
| 21:38 |
* red-001 |
wonders |
| 21:39 |
Sokomine |
Shara: i'm afraid there's potential to abuse just about anything. but there is also a very legitimate use for it. let's just try to get rid of the bots by other means |
| 21:39 |
Shara |
Bit difficult when getting hit over and over |
| 21:40 |
red-001 |
maybe setup a mod that looks up some database of commerical hosts and blocks account creation from them? |
| 21:40 |
Sokomine |
IhrFussel: i can join your server and show you autorun. basicly the player char does not get the walk animation. gravity is still in effect. no mysterious gain of flight or noclip that way |
| 21:40 |
Shara |
Exact same behaviour |
| 21:40 |
paramat |
issue 6183 shows that android autojump causes some issues and advantages for android players on a server, it should be removed, will do this |
| 21:41 |
* Sokomine |
hands Shara a sword to hit the bots (would even be effective as they'd respawn. or not?) |
| 21:41 |
paramat |
android users have a jump button so can use thta. however, we will be attending to android controls before 0.5, they're already terrible |
| 21:41 |
IhrFussel |
Sokomine, sounds like the exact movement I saw just with priv check off it seems |
| 21:42 |
red-001 |
10/10 minetest will now achive it's goal of 0% market share amoung android games based on minetest source code |
| 21:42 |
Shara |
7 signed in at once again, this time from GorilliaServers Inc. Noclip and movement in steps. Not even facing the direction they were going |
| 21:42 |
paramat |
a mod can provide autojump if wanted, on android or desktop, hardcoding it for android is wrong |
| 21:42 |
red-001 |
paramat, we can't just remove this, no sane human will be able to play the android version for more then 5 minutes |
| 21:43 |
red-001 |
we need to replace it if we do that |
| 21:43 |
Sokomine |
autojump on android is a great feature. i can see that it might be less welcomed on pvp servers. isn't there a way to link it to that? server-controlled might be best (again, who has time for that....) |
| 21:44 |
IhrFussel |
Just add auto jump as setting on PC ... people who feel cheated can then enable it |
| 21:44 |
red-001 |
^ |
| 21:44 |
IhrFussel |
PC users have WAY more advantages than Android users... I'd like to mention crafting |
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| 21:45 |
ThomasMonroe |
heya Megaf |
| 21:45 |
Jordach |
>has a HTTP mechanism |
| 21:45 |
red-001 |
yeah I really don't mind android users having at least no advantage |
| 21:45 |
Jordach |
>can literally be used at init only |
| 21:45 |
IhrFussel |
Splitting stacks is not fun on Android, but not sure how that could be improved |
| 21:45 |
Megaf |
"Linus Torvalds has released the Linux 4.15.0 kernel after nine release candidates. |
| 21:45 |
Megaf |
The belated Linux kernel update is now available and remains under the "Fearless Coyote" codename. " |
| 21:45 |
ThomasMonroe |
can i get more input on #6969? |
| 21:45 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6969 -- F3 enable/disable fog info not accurate |
| 21:45 |
Megaf |
Fearless Coyote |
| 21:46 |
paramat |
jump is the least of android control problems, it's the other control issues that are the problem. we could add it as an option for all platforms |
| 21:46 |
Megaf |
F e a r l e s s C o y o t e |
| 21:46 |
Megaf |
One of best Linux codenames ever |
| 21:46 |
Megaf |
Especially now with this meltdown stuff happening |
| 21:46 |
Jordach |
paramat: who designed the HTTP api to only be run at init |
| 21:46 |
red-001 |
paramat, no need to add new issues |
| 21:46 |
ThomasMonroe |
paramat, i was getting ready to say that auto-jump might actually be a neat setting to have for desktop |
| 21:46 |
Jordach |
that's DUMB |
| 21:47 |
red-001 |
Jordach, what are you talking about? |
| 21:47 |
Jordach |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L3296 |
| 21:47 |
Jordach |
* Only works at init time and must be called from the mod's main scope (not from a function). |
| 21:47 |
Jordach |
that throws any decent use away |
| 21:47 |
red-001 |
> doesn't understand API docs |
| 21:47 |
red-001 |
in fairness we use markdown without rendering it |
| 21:48 |
red-001 |
Jordach, variables |
| 21:48 |
Shara |
And another one already |
| 21:48 |
Shara |
Over and over |
| 21:48 |
Jordach |
red-001: but can't be: used inside of functions, or at any game runtime |
| 21:48 |
red-001 |
it's like the insecure api |
| 21:49 |
red-001 |
local HTTPApiTable = minetest.request_http_api() |
| 21:49 |
red-001 |
it's literaly explained in the first line |
| 21:49 |
red-001 |
* returns `HTTPApiTable` containing http functions |
| 21:49 |
IhrFussel |
Sokomine, your movement is wayy smoother when you enable auto forward...the one by sallee was more like robotic (step, pause, step, pause) |
| 21:50 |
sofar |
Jordach: have a look at github.com/sofar/mt2fa |
| 21:52 |
Shara |
Fussel, getitng multiple groups of players, 7 at once on RC doing this now |
| 21:53 |
IhrFussel |
Shara, Sokomine demonstrates auto forward and it's really a lot smoother... are they also moving in steps on your server? |
| 21:53 |
red-001 |
it would be kinda ironic if the keymap was so badly documented that however this is just rewrote it from scratch |
| 21:53 |
red-001 |
whoever* |
| 21:53 |
Sokomine |
IhrFussel: strange. well, that is how automove works. it's practical for travelling maybe 1-2 minutes (following other players who are showing something) but does require human interaction in order not to crash into a wall or fall into a hole |
| 21:57 |
red-001 |
not letting dead players move should really be enabled even if anticheat is off |
| 21:57 |
Fixer |
worst part is some mc youtubers filming at complete night, damn thats horribly |
| 22:04 |
Fixer |
"GTK+ 4.0 could be released in 2018" |
| 22:13 |
Calinou |
year of GTK destkop |
| 22:14 |
Jordach |
year of the Windows 10 desktop :^) |
| 22:15 |
Fixer |
not GTK again |
| 22:15 |
Fixer |
makes me sad in a way |
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| 22:18 |
Megaf |
Jordach, I'd like to use Blender too. But I'm too stupid to be able to use it. |
| 22:18 |
Megaf |
Not clever enough |
| 22:18 |
Megaf |
I used to use Rhinoceros though. Great piece of software. |
| 22:19 |
Fixer |
another wonderful name for a software |
| 22:19 |
Megaf |
I do think so |
| 22:20 |
Megaf |
BTW, just watched "Going in Style". Great movie. |
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| 22:29 |
Megaf |
In Rhinoceros I used to design robots back in the day, it was fun |
| 22:35 |
red-001 |
re: #6982 should mod security settings be global or per-world like other settings? |
| 22:35 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6982 -- [WIP] Make settings files per-world. by red-001 |
| 22:35 |
red-001 |
second option seems better but it would be good to get some input |
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| 23:07 |
jas_ |
i really like the stock distribution of minetest/game, that's resulted from the work of so many people, and in particular paramat in regards to the code itself as well as managing the project and being so involved, and always sticking to his principles. just wanted to say thanks. |
| 23:08 |
Calinou |
someone likes minetest_game, stop the presses! |
| 23:08 |
Calinou |
it did get better over time, but not much has changed in 2 years now |
| 23:12 |
Megaf |
Oh boy |
| 23:12 |
Megaf |
well, I like default minetest_game too |
| 23:12 |
* Shara |
will like it more when/if there are fireflies :P |
| 23:13 |
Megaf |
indeed |
| 23:13 |
Megaf |
brb |
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* Megaf |
is no duck |
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| 23:52 |
Fixer |
Calinou: in 7 years, apart from carts *cough* |
| 23:53 |
Fixer |
Calinou: and new blocks (at least this too) |
| 23:53 |
Fixer |
it is much more nicer visually |
| 23:56 |
Fixer |
block selection is quite good, time for some a c t i o n, aka m o b s, and some a m b i e n c e, bored to repeat it |
| 23:57 |
Fixer |
funnily i see hate towards rain in multiplayer .______. |
| 23:57 |
Fixer |
at least in mc beta |
