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roben1430 |
MarisaG: sorry that took so long, was not prepared for things not to work right |
| 00:04 |
MarisaG |
ah thx! |
| 00:06 |
roben1430 |
MarisaG: if you register I can auto-voice you |
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MarisaG |
how do i do that? |
| 00:08 |
Fixer |
web 2017 https://www.rossmanngroup.com/web-design-demski-group-dev-andrew-demski/ |
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roben1430 |
MarisaG: /msg NickServ help |
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roben1430 |
MarisaG: you'll need to sign in too |
| 00:56 |
Megaf |
benrob0329: no problem with sasl in my hexchat |
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roben1430 |
Megaf: reset my password, sasl seems to work now |
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sofar |
Megaf: could always migrate them to minetest-mods |
| 01:52 |
sofar |
friendly reminder the FREE Public Remote Media Server is bored and wishes to serve more user content to players! |
| 01:52 |
sofar |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=18951 |
| 02:11 |
Megaf |
good night all |
| 02:51 |
VanessaE |
happy Channukah all (where applicable) https://imgur.com/a/Mw6hh |
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benrob0329 |
VanessaE: Haapy Channukah :-) |
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rubenwardy |
VanessaE, Haapy Channukah! |
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rubenwardy |
puppers <3 https://i.rubenwardy.com/HeftdLOvq4.png |
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jas_ |
ffffffffffffffffffffffffffff |
| 04:47 |
sofar |
alright, time to clone nether and push it to minetest-mods |
| 04:47 |
sofar |
enough is enough, pilzadam is void |
| 04:47 |
benrob0329 |
!seen pilzadam |
| 04:47 |
MinetestBot |
benrob0329: pilzadam was last seen at 2016-08-06 21:21:58 UTC on #minetest-de |
| 04:47 |
benrob0329 |
Ouch |
| 04:48 |
benrob0329 |
sofar: mark him as MIA I suppose |
| 04:48 |
rubenwardy |
his github has commit history from this year |
| 04:48 |
rubenwardy |
iirc |
| 04:48 |
benrob0329 |
Yeah but how much? |
| 04:48 |
rubenwardy |
like, a comment on one thing |
| 04:48 |
rubenwardy |
not MT related |
| 04:49 |
benrob0329 |
Yeah, thats about what I expected |
| 04:49 |
rubenwardy |
he forked a repo to Timvde/UserChrome-Tweaks |
| 04:49 |
rubenwardy |
and made a few commits and a PR |
| 04:49 |
benrob0329 |
I see |
| 04:49 |
benrob0329 |
So he's alive |
| 04:49 |
sofar |
irrelevant |
| 04:50 |
sofar |
he's not responding to my requests and hasn't in 2 years |
| 04:50 |
benrob0329 |
Should we move posts for mods by people MIA to old mods, as they will be unmaintained? |
| 04:52 |
sofar |
I will modify the nether mod topic |
| 05:11 |
sofar |
done, moved |
| 05:51 |
sofar |
done some fixes to nether as well |
| 06:38 |
* sofar |
closes window after inspiration blew out |
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| 09:35 |
Megaf |
Good morning all |
| 09:35 |
Megaf |
sofar: I'm using other nether, not his |
| 09:35 |
Megaf |
Good morning all |
| 09:39 |
Megaf |
Calinou: I think you should begin to play on my server when I put it's ready for production. And you too nerzhul... |
| 09:39 |
Megaf |
when it's ready for production and I put it back online* |
| 09:39 |
Megaf |
because now my server is French! |
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| 10:01 |
Megaf |
Any C++ Dev here willing to give these guys a hand? https://github.com/facebook/hhvm/issues/8011 |
| 10:01 |
Megaf |
They seem to have a compiler problem |
| 10:01 |
Megaf |
I don't care anymore, dropped HHVM and upgraded to PHP7 |
| 10:02 |
Megaf |
Will not rely my stuff in such unstable thing |
| 10:26 |
Megaf |
sofar: that's a good nether mod https://github.com/HybridDog/nether-pack |
| 10:26 |
Megaf |
I suggest including dependencies in the pack |
| 10:28 |
* Megaf |
sips his coffee |
| 10:29 |
Megaf |
Im completely lost (in Minetest) |
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| 12:25 |
Calinou |
hi :) |
| 12:25 |
Calinou |
Megaf: good decision, HHVM is pretty much dead. PHP 7.2 is where it's at :) |
| 12:26 |
Calinou |
(it performs slightly better than PHP 7.1, by the way) |
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Megaf |
Calinou: I'm very happy with the transition back to PHP. With HHVM I was having even server freezes, it would just not do anything but eat up the CPU and RAM |
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| 12:55 |
Megaf |
I could do with some mod help now |
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| 12:58 |
Megaf |
Help please http://paste.debian.net/plain/1001626 |
| 12:58 |
Megaf |
(minetest-nether mod error -- ^} |
| 12:59 |
Megaf |
Calinou: any remote idea? |
| 13:00 |
Megaf |
well, meanwhile I will recompile my server |
| 13:00 |
NathanS21 |
I think line 318 might need guide_size.fx replaced with guide_size.cx |
| 13:00 |
NathanS21 |
I don't see guide_size.fx ever being defined. |
| 13:01 |
NathanS21 |
nevermind, it is defined |
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| 13:37 |
Megaf |
!seen lkjoel |
| 13:37 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Sorry, I haven't seen lkjoel around. |
| 13:38 |
Megaf |
I dont understand why minetest nether was working yesterdey and today isnt |
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| 13:40 |
Megaf |
Hoefuly he will see this https://github.com/HybridDog/nether-pack/issues/6 |
| 13:49 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: sofar pushed PilzAdam's nether to minetest-mods, but I suppose that doesnt actually help you because he didn't ask which nether mod was broken |
| 13:49 |
benrob0329 |
*facepalms* |
| 13:53 |
Megaf |
benrob0329: that nether is a completelly differnt mod |
| 13:53 |
Megaf |
much simpler |
| 13:56 |
Megaf |
I can't pass in the human test of discord... |
| 13:58 |
Megaf |
going to the third attempt |
| 13:58 |
benrob0329 |
Eww discord |
| 13:59 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: I got off that proprietary piece of crap :-) |
| 13:59 |
Megaf |
4 attempts |
| 13:59 |
Megaf |
no luck |
| 13:59 |
Megaf |
I give up, I'm no human, it is prooved. there, to all of you who think I'm a robot, happy? |
| 13:59 |
benrob0329 |
They'll hand of your data if they go bankrupt, or sell the company (like the creator has with all of his previous projects) |
| 14:08 |
Megaf |
I dont like that either |
| 14:08 |
Megaf |
but stupid things like that tend to attack lots of people |
| 14:08 |
Megaf |
as seen on Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp, SnapChat |
| 14:08 |
Megaf |
you are just giving away your life |
| 14:10 |
Thomas-S |
Megaf: Is your nether mod error solved already? |
| 14:15 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: i'm not on any of those, I stopped using Facebook a month or so ago. |
| 14:17 |
benrob0329 |
I'm done compromising my privacy and supporting platforms that need anti-censorship and anti-data-selling laws to not suck so much. |
| 14:18 |
* Calinou |
has never used Instagram, WhatsApp or Snapchat and is proud of it |
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| 14:32 |
twoelk |
that's something you can decide for your personal use but when needing to interact with other companies or people for work you have to use whatever happens to be the standart at the time :-( |
| 14:33 |
Calinou |
do you actually need to use these for professional uses? |
| 14:33 |
Calinou |
especially Snapchat? :P |
| 14:33 |
benrob0329 |
My next step is to get off of hangouts, but good videoconferencing is hard to come by |
| 14:33 |
Calinou |
yeah, open source developers are upset with videoconferencing |
| 14:33 |
Calinou |
~~probably because they don't have girlfriends~~ |
| 14:34 |
benrob0329 |
Matrix has it, but no clients have a good UI for it yet |
| 14:34 |
twoelk |
I don't have snapshat and it is getting more and more difficult to explain why not |
| 14:34 |
benrob0329 |
Jitsi Meet works good, but it freaks out on a friend's browser |
| 14:34 |
twoelk |
I insist on them sending me emails |
| 14:35 |
Calinou |
send nude emails |
| 14:35 |
Calinou |
but yeah, last year at my previous university, pretty much everyone was using Snapchat during uni |
| 14:35 |
Calinou |
less so now |
| 14:35 |
Calinou |
(at the university I'm now at) |
| 14:35 |
benrob0329 |
"Because I like to have a life, space on my phone, and sanity in knowing where my data goes" |
| 14:35 |
Dumbeldor |
Calinou: send nudes :D |
| 14:36 |
twoelk |
but it's like: here's an issue on site,let me send you a pic and info - do you have snapshat? email? er nevermind, havn't got the time |
| 14:36 |
benrob0329 |
twoelk: SMS and Email |
| 14:37 |
benrob0329 |
Just tell everyone to use those when sending you stuff |
| 14:37 |
twoelk |
believe me, a lot of people think emails are too difficult from phones |
| 14:38 |
benrob0329 |
...I use webmail and its still not that hard |
| 14:38 |
twoelk |
although the email-program is slowly becomming the center of organisation. :-( |
| 14:39 |
twoelk |
CRM software will change soon I guess |
| 14:39 |
benrob0329 |
My email is friend-hosted, and I host some other people's email |
| 14:40 |
benrob0329 |
IRC is slowly becoming synonymous with freenode |
| 14:41 |
Calinou |
I barely ever use email with real people |
| 14:42 |
twoelk |
same here |
| 14:42 |
Calinou |
the last emails I've sent: requesting Google Drive access after pleding to a Patreon campaign, and telling someone their Let's Encrypt certificate expired |
| 14:42 |
benrob0329 |
same, but its needed |
| 14:42 |
Calinou |
in 1 month :P |
| 14:43 |
twoelk |
for work I read - well lots of email and attachments |
| 14:43 |
Calinou |
indeed, email is still king in workplaces |
| 14:43 |
Calinou |
but I'm not in a workplace :P |
| 14:44 |
* twoelk |
got an email yesterday with some 250pdf pages to read - sigh |
| 14:44 |
benrob0329 |
The last email I sent was requesting CreativeCommons emojis on mastodon.art |
| 14:47 |
twoelk |
most of those pdf's was about legal regulations and construction site safety requierments |
| 14:47 |
twoelk |
condensed the stuff we need to work with down to 18 pages |
| 14:48 |
twoelk |
of course we learned all the other stuff by heart <big grin> |
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| 14:50 |
paramat |
Megaf add a 3rd argument 'true' to minetest.wrap_text(), see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/649eef9e4fe4ef6a59ca9f59c900c6e0900cfb3a/builtin/common/misc_helpers.lua#L311 |
| 14:50 |
paramat |
the 3rd argument is missing from docs |
| 14:51 |
paramat |
that will make sure 'tab' is a table |
| 14:52 |
twoelk |
wraptext in all of formspec? (hope) |
| 14:54 |
paramat |
easy bug to discover |
| 14:57 |
paramat |
actually, the 3rd argument isn't missing from docs, luckily |
| 15:04 |
* twoelk |
wished there were more possabilities to make nice text with formspecs |
| 15:05 |
paramat |
the error message tells you that 'tab' is a string instead of the necessary table, 'tab' is created by 'wrap text', look at docs and there is a 3rd argument that makes sure a table is returned. simple =) |
| 15:08 |
paramat |
so not always the fault of MT devs ;) |
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| 15:12 |
paramat |
without that 3rd argument, whether a table is returned is decided by whether the text was long enough to wrap, which may explain the intermittent error |
| 15:15 |
twoelk |
hm, if the cloth wraps over the edges it's a table and if not your eating on the floor |
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| 15:23 |
* twoelk |
looks at the github rendering of the README.md and wished minetest had something similar ingame |
| 15:29 |
paramat |
it's a strict rule that we don't break mods, so if stuff breaks on update it's usually mod or user error, and usually devs who get the blame :) |
| 15:31 |
benrob0329 |
\>people complain about ugly and imprecise selection/collision boxes |
| 15:31 |
benrob0329 |
Hah, I just turn them off |
| 15:32 |
benrob0329 |
Your not supposed to see in-game collisions, they're supposed to give the illusion of not being a box |
| 15:49 |
Megaf |
12:15 <benrob0329> Megaf: i'm not on any of those, I stopped using Facebook a month or so ago. |
| 15:50 |
Megaf |
I already have almost no friends, if I do that I will die alone |
| 15:50 |
Megaf |
12:10 <Thomas-S> Megaf: Is your nether mod error solved already? |
| 15:50 |
Megaf |
not yet |
| 15:50 |
Megaf |
12:50 <paramat> Megaf add a 3rd argument 'true' to minetest.wrap_text(), see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/649eef9e4fe4ef6a59ca9f59c900c6e0900cfb3a/builtin/common/misc_helpers.lua#L311 |
| 15:50 |
Megaf |
will d |
| 15:53 |
* Megaf |
starts to edit misc_helpers |
| 15:53 |
Megaf |
insert I haven o idea what Im doing meme here |
| 15:53 |
paramat |
noo |
| 15:53 |
Megaf |
paramat: can you be more clear just so I'm sure I'm doing what I'm suppsoed to? |
| 15:53 |
paramat |
add 'true' to nether code |
| 15:54 |
Megaf |
that makes more sense |
| 15:54 |
Megaf |
paramat: you have to be very clear and black and white with me |
| 15:54 |
paramat |
as 3rd argument in wrap text, hang on .. |
| 15:54 |
Megaf |
My brain is extremely powerful, tho you can only code it in assembly... |
| 15:54 |
Megaf |
if you throw Lua or JavaScript at it, it wont work |
| 15:55 |
Megaf |
I can't take floats either |
| 15:55 |
Megaf |
xP |
| 15:55 |
paramat |
line 318: 'local tab = minetest.wrap_text(content, guide_size.fx, true)' |
| 15:55 |
Megaf |
There we go |
| 15:55 |
Megaf |
I understand that |
| 15:55 |
paramat |
so was a mod error |
| 15:56 |
Megaf |
paramat: craziest thing is line 311 of misc_helpers.lua can take a third argument too |
| 15:57 |
Megaf |
starting server, lets see if it crashes or not |
| 15:57 |
paramat |
oh i can see now my message could be misinterpreted |
| 15:58 |
paramat |
now if you pastebin all your other errors we might look |
| 15:58 |
Megaf |
no other error yet |
| 15:59 |
Megaf |
just 100s of conflicting items and aliases |
| 15:59 |
Megaf |
oh, and mods like plasticbox and darkage no longer work with the circularsaw from moreblocks |
| 15:59 |
Megaf |
I cant make stairs anymore with darkage stone for example |
| 15:59 |
Megaf |
and if I put a darkage block in the circularsaw, nothing happens, it doesnt take it |
| 16:00 |
paramat |
these? http://irc.minetest.net/minetest-hub/2017-12-19#i_5172859 |
| 16:00 |
Megaf |
paramat: that's sorted out already |
| 16:00 |
Megaf |
thank you |
| 16:01 |
paramat |
good |
| 16:01 |
Megaf |
!up 5.196.88.227 30003 |
| 16:01 |
MinetestBot |
5.196.88.227:30003 is up (11ms) |
| 16:01 |
Megaf |
paramat: nether is working ^ |
| 16:02 |
Megaf |
Thomas-S: I found some more missing things in streets, I just have no idea where and what it was |
| 16:02 |
Megaf |
whoops |
| 16:03 |
Megaf |
/set max_blocks_sends_per_client |
| 16:03 |
Megaf |
whats the write spelling for that? |
| 16:03 |
Megaf |
and WOWOWOWOWO!!! COPY AND PASTE IS BLOODY WORKING!!! |
| 16:03 |
Megaf |
!!!!!!!!!!to and from Minetest!!!!!!!! |
| 16:03 |
Megaf |
I just copied that /set from my minetest client chat/cosnole thing |
| 16:04 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: its worked for me for years |
| 16:04 |
Megaf |
on Linux? |
| 16:04 |
Megaf |
here it would just not work, or crash minetest, or crash the other program or crash everything |
| 16:04 |
benrob0329 |
Yes.. |
| 16:05 |
benrob0329 |
You must run very strange systems |
| 16:05 |
Megaf |
eh, not the case for this bug |
| 16:05 |
Megaf |
not the cause* |
| 16:06 |
Thomas-S |
Megaf: Regarding your stairs/stairsplus problem: I use the following compatibility mod on my server: https://github.com/Thomas--S/stairs |
| 16:06 |
benrob0329 |
Granted I'm the kind of person who likes the classic select -> middle click type paste |
| 16:07 |
Thomas-S |
It "overwrites" the normal stairs mod of Minetest Game and "redirects" the stairs definitions to moreblocks/stairsplus. |
| 16:08 |
Megaf |
paramat: https://github.com/HybridDog/nether-pack/issues/7 |
| 16:08 |
Megaf |
Thomas-S: tested darkage stone in the circular saw tho? |
| 16:09 |
Megaf |
paramat: https://github.com/HybridDog/nether-pack/issues/7 (updated issue) |
| 16:10 |
Thomas-S |
Megaf: For some of the darkage nodes, I had to write custom moreblocks stairsplus definitions. |
| 16:10 |
Megaf |
Thomas-S: I sorted the problem by just using older version of Darkage |
| 16:11 |
Thomas-S |
May I ask which versions you tested (both the new one and the old one)? |
| 16:13 |
Megaf |
latest master and how to I check the commit I have again? |
| 16:14 |
Thomas-S |
"git show" maybe? |
| 16:15 |
Megaf |
Thomas-S: dd37bb79deb70110a31f3e4486cf0912eb643cca |
| 16:15 |
Thomas-S |
BTW, are you using the "official" repo? https://bitbucket.org/adrido/darkage/ There are quite a lot of different other repos out there, if I remember correctly. |
| 16:16 |
Megaf |
I'd say I am |
| 16:17 |
paramat |
will look |
| 16:17 |
Megaf |
actually |
| 16:17 |
Megaf |
I am using one from GitHub |
| 16:17 |
Megaf |
hold on |
| 16:18 |
Megaf |
Thomas-S: I'm using this https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3213 |
| 16:19 |
Megaf |
Thomas-S: the one I'm using is the original one ;) |
| 16:19 |
Thomas-S |
The version by MasterGollum seems to be a little bit outdated. I'll do some research about the stairsplus problem in adrido's latest version. |
| 16:22 |
Megaf |
Thomas-S: hold on, let me see what happens with the latest version from adridos |
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| 16:36 |
Thomas-S |
Megaf: Latest version of moreblocks and darkage seems to work fine together. Only a few nodes don't have the stairs etc. available: https://i.imgur.com/KIhjZpr.png |
| 16:43 |
paramat |
replied to issue, mod error again |
| 16:58 |
Megaf |
Thomas-S: Yep, latest seems to be working well indeed |
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| 17:03 |
Megaf |
paramat: by the way, only mod error because something in the core has changed |
| 17:04 |
paramat |
no, it seems vector extras was changed and nether was not updated to stay compatible |
| 17:04 |
Megaf |
hum |
| 17:04 |
paramat |
however, it's messy to have those functions external best move them into nether mod as i suggest |
| 17:05 |
paramat |
to avoid the same happening again |
| 17:08 |
Megaf |
paramat: similar error |
| 17:08 |
Megaf |
2017-12-20 17:08:15: ERROR[Main]: ServerError: AsyncErr: Lua: finishGenRuntime error from mod 'nether' in callback environment_OnGenerated(): ...r/BinMegafServer/bin/../mods/nether-pack/nether/init.lua:833: attempt to call field 'get_data_pos_table' (a nil value) |
| 17:09 |
Megaf |
2017-12-20 17:08:15: ERROR[Main]: ...r/BinMegafServer/bin/../mods/nether-pack/nether/init.lua:833: in function 'grow_tree' |
| 17:09 |
Megaf |
2017-12-20 17:08:15: ERROR[Main]: ...r/BinMegafServer/bin/../mods/nether-pack/nether/init.lua:620: in function <...r/BinMegafServer/bin/../mods/nether-pack/nether/init.lua:359> |
| 17:09 |
Megaf |
2017-12-20 17:08:15: ERROR[Main]: ...afServer/BinMegafServer/bin/../builtin/game/register.lua:412: in function <...afServer/BinMegafServer/bin/../builtin/game/register.lua:392> |
| 17:09 |
Megaf |
Perhaps we have to replace all functions in all files |
| 17:10 |
jas_ |
now hold on |
| 17:10 |
Roger9 |
hm |
| 17:10 |
paramat |
actually, 'wrap text' was changed 3 months ago and the 3rd argument added, so that may be the cause |
| 17:10 |
Roger9 |
"No CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER could be found." - now, I get the gist of what that means, but well, I have gcc but I'm not sure where I'd need to set CXX to in order to allow cmake to use it |
| 17:10 |
Roger9 |
gcc as a synaptic package, btw. |
| 17:11 |
paramat |
so yes not mod error for that |
| 17:12 |
paramat |
yes that's what i mean in the issue comments, replace the 'set' 'get' and 'remove' with the actual functions from 'vector extras' |
| 17:13 |
Megaf |
Roger9: which distro? |
| 17:15 |
Megaf |
Roger9: if deb based, apt install build-essential should fix that |
| 17:15 |
Megaf |
jas_: can I stop holding? |
| 17:17 |
Megaf |
paramat: I'm doing that :) |
| 17:17 |
jas_ |
hold it |
| 17:18 |
paramat |
added comment to thread to be clear |
| 17:21 |
Roger9 |
Megaf: ty, will try now |
| 17:26 |
Megaf |
paramat: those functions still crashing the mod |
| 17:27 |
Megaf |
oh wait, I still ave vector_extras enabled, could that be causing it to crash? |
| 17:27 |
Megaf |
we'll see |
| 17:36 |
Megaf |
paramat: so, |
| 17:36 |
Megaf |
2017-12-20 17:31:19: ERROR[Main]: mod "riesenpilz" has unsatisfied dependencies: "vector_extras" |
| 17:36 |
Megaf |
2017-12-20 17:31:19: ERROR[Main]: mod "nether" has unsatisfied dependencies: "riesenpilz" |
| 17:38 |
Megaf |
lets make all vector optional to riesenpilz too |
| 17:38 |
paramat |
keep vector extras enabled, it won't interfere with the changes to nether |
| 17:38 |
Megaf |
paramat: if it doesnt then the function are still crashing |
| 17:39 |
paramat |
if you have errors please paste them, very difficult to work with them in IRC |
| 17:39 |
Megaf |
paramat: I will, it's very difficult working with Minetest with "only" 4 GB of RAM |
| 17:40 |
Megaf |
System froze at least 4 times due to OOM |
| 17:40 |
Megaf |
since we begun trying to fix nether |
| 17:40 |
Megaf |
also it takes a long while to start mientestserver |
| 17:40 |
Megaf |
minetest is just too heavy and demanding now a days |
| 17:41 |
Megaf |
"Initializing Nodes" takes forever and often crashes my system |
| 17:42 |
Megaf |
by the way this |
| 17:42 |
Megaf |
2017-12-20 15:41:13: WARNING[Main]: Irrlicht: PNG warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile |
| 17:42 |
Megaf |
Cause by stupid photoshop color profile ^ |
| 17:42 |
Megaf |
caused* |
| 17:42 |
Megaf |
workaround is compile libpng without color profile check |
| 17:42 |
Megaf |
or just stop using stupid software like photoshop |
| 17:45 |
Megaf |
paramat: couldnt trigger the crash caused by the function when not loading vectop_extras |
| 17:45 |
Megaf |
tho, nether now crashes because its dependencies will not load without loading vector_extras |
| 17:46 |
Megaf |
tired, will work more on that later, for now server will be off again |
| 17:47 |
paramat |
no OOM is not due to MT being heavy, it's due to LuaJIT and/or over intensive or poorly coded mods |
| 17:47 |
Roger9 |
hm. |
| 17:48 |
Roger9 |
well, I managed to speed up MT in singleplayer to a playable frame rate |
| 17:48 |
paramat |
Megaf for when you return, colour profile can be fixed in Gimp like this https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1984#issuecomment-353036348 |
| 17:50 |
Roger9 |
but not really... hm |
| 17:51 |
paramat |
'initialising nodes' causing problems may be due to using overcomplex mods |
| 17:51 |
Roger9 |
well, I got spheretest to start compiling |
| 17:51 |
Roger9 |
yay, I will be able to play it without using wine |
| 17:52 |
paramat |
ok maybe vector extras is interfering somehow. i haven't got my head around these mods, i think you need hybriddog to sort his mods out |
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| 18:51 |
Roger9 |
Is there a way to enable spheretest's curving without the wraparound? |
| 18:51 |
Roger9 |
So it'd feel like playing on a planet but wouldn't be buggy at the wrapping ends. |
| 18:53 |
paramat |
no, but a mapgen could be created that matches perfectly at the wrap |
| 18:53 |
Roger9 |
ah. |
| 18:53 |
Roger9 |
(I meant 'buggy' because you can add and remove blocks past the wrapping edges by being behind the edge) |
| 19:32 |
Fixer |
lol https://twitter.com/internetofshit/status/925073276031979520 |
| 19:41 |
Krock |
Roger9, the visual wrap effect is mostly shaders - but also requires some C++ glue IIRC |
| 19:42 |
Krock |
"Sorry Twitter takes too long to load" |
| 19:42 |
Krock |
> takes me to a login page |
| 19:42 |
Krock |
> refreshes login page all 10s |
| 19:42 |
Krock |
desktop version almost worked |
| 19:46 |
Krock |
http://krock-works.16mb.com/u/tweet_design.mp4 |
| 19:48 |
Fixer |
Krock: in short, they index and recognise your photos, including #@% related ones |
| 19:49 |
Krock |
deep learning got too far. needs backwards evolution |
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| 19:57 |
Fixer |
too deep |
| 19:57 |
Megaf |
paramat: thanks for the help with nether |
| 19:58 |
sofar |
Megaf: fix nether? |
| 19:58 |
Megaf |
paramat: the colour profile is not my business, its modders responsability |
| 19:58 |
Megaf |
or Mientest core in changing the lib |
| 19:58 |
Megaf |
sofar: nope |
| 19:58 |
Megaf |
I'm giving some time now from Minetest, doing some exercises right now |
| 19:59 |
Megaf |
Im too fat |
| 19:59 |
sofar |
well I was just wondering since I migrated the nether mod to `minetest-mods` yesterday and did some maintenance work on it |
| 20:00 |
Megaf |
sofar: I see you didnt read benrob0329s and my messages :) |
| 20:00 |
Megaf |
sofar: we are using a completely different nether mod |
| 20:00 |
Megaf |
this is the nether mod I use and one of the issues. https://github.com/HybridDog/nether-pack/issues/7 |
| 20:01 |
Megaf |
thats a possible solution https://github.com/Megaf/nether-pack/commit/43bf49648f5e63c4cd7f9f56da06ad8c83d9fdee |
| 20:01 |
Fixer |
sofar: nice |
| 20:01 |
Megaf |
paramat: did I do that right? https://github.com/Megaf/nether-pack/commit/43bf49648f5e63c4cd7f9f56da06ad8c83d9fdee |
| 20:02 |
Megaf |
By the way, if HybridDog doesnt show up soon I will fork nether and maintain it in Minetest-Mods, and will integrate all it needs to its code |
| 20:04 |
paramat |
looks right, but you say it still has issues |
| 20:06 |
paramat |
oh |
| 20:07 |
paramat |
i missed something, added a line comment to your commit |
| 20:09 |
sofar |
there already is a nether mod in minetest-mods, so, a second one would automatically be rejected |
| 20:10 |
sofar |
plus modpacks are prohibited |
| 20:10 |
sofar |
but, you could separately add the parts, or migrate them to the minetest-mods/nether mod |
| 20:10 |
sofar |
ugh Hybriddog, he made a modpack with 1 mod |
| 20:10 |
sofar |
some people never learn |
| 20:11 |
paramat |
heh |
| 20:12 |
paramat |
our nether mod is much better |
| 20:13 |
paramat |
i'm slightly biased |
| 20:14 |
paramat |
but now we have to consider interaction with the new 'massive caverns' |
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| 20:25 |
Megaf |
sofar: because you added the wrong nether... |
| 20:26 |
Megaf |
thats you you already have a nether! |
| 20:26 |
Megaf |
lmao |
| 20:27 |
sofar |
i'm sorry, but Hybriddog and a few others just randomly fork shit and never bother to contribute back |
| 20:27 |
Megaf |
can I edit the code in the commit thing? |
| 20:27 |
sofar |
I will not condone forkmania like that |
| 20:27 |
sofar |
tenplus2 does the same thing |
| 20:27 |
Megaf |
sofar: well, I fork things and dont contribute back either, I just give the fork away xP (more-chests) |
| 20:28 |
sofar |
well, fork all you want, but minetest-mods isn't going to accept all the forks |
| 20:29 |
sofar |
I've been clear from the start and people who refuse to consider merging patches upstream are not in a position to demand that their fork gets accepted |
| 20:29 |
sofar |
you can't eat your cake and have it too |
| 20:31 |
Megaf |
Some people fork because original owner will just plain not accept the contributions |
| 20:32 |
Megaf |
I think this is what happens most of the time |
| 20:32 |
sofar |
well, that's what minetest-mods is trying to resolve |
| 20:32 |
sofar |
so, now that the original nether is cleaned up, I'll happily consided patches |
| 20:33 |
sofar |
I've already fixed up a bunch of outstanding bugs in it |
| 20:34 |
Megaf |
sofar: problem is, it's totally incompatible with hybriddogs nether |
| 20:34 |
* paramat |
eats cake and has it in stomach |
| 20:35 |
Megaf |
I'm eating 3 fried eggs seasoned with ground himalaian salt, pepper, coriander leaves and $(translate "alecrim" from pt_BR to en_IE) |
| 20:35 |
Megaf |
and having a glass of local red wine |
| 20:35 |
Calinou |
can't hear you over my fr_FR |
| 20:36 |
Calinou |
not even fr_CA comes close to this level of Frenchery |
| 20:36 |
Megaf |
lol |
| 20:37 |
Megaf |
Calinou: you should help me fix HybridDog's Nether and play on my server because my server is French and we have a French cafe |
| 20:37 |
Calinou |
I don't have time right now |
| 20:37 |
Calinou |
doing university assignments, and I have a lot of them to finish before early January |
| 20:37 |
Megaf |
Calinou: I have to big assignments due too |
| 20:37 |
Megaf |
both Java |
| 20:38 |
Megaf |
and I have no idea how to code that shite |
| 20:38 |
Megaf |
I just sailed the whole semester |
| 20:38 |
Calinou |
one is Java, one is JavaScript |
| 20:38 |
Megaf |
Besides, I was too busy getting a dedicated in France and fixing my server. Had no time of university, lol |
| 20:39 |
Megaf |
You gotta get your priorities right |
| 20:40 |
Megaf |
paramat: I should add that line there or edit the one there's there? |
| 20:41 |
Megaf |
I do apologize for such elementary question |
| 20:41 |
paramat |
no prob |
| 20:41 |
paramat |
replace that line with what i post |
| 20:41 |
paramat |
*posted |
| 20:41 |
Megaf |
ok, that's what I thought. Thank you |
| 20:46 |
Calinou |
><Megaf> You gotta get your priorities right |
| 20:46 |
Calinou |
ehm… |
| 20:46 |
Calinou |
I don't feel like I have any free time lately |
| 20:46 |
Megaf |
+1 for quassel ^ |
| 20:46 |
Calinou |
I bought games on the Steam sale last month, I haven't started them up not because I don't want to, but because I can't |
| 20:47 |
Calinou |
I can't learn anything new |
| 20:47 |
Megaf |
Calinou: I know what you mean. You do well doing your assignments sir. Perhaps you should close quassel till you finish one of the assignments |
| 20:47 |
Calinou |
ah, that's what you meant |
| 20:48 |
Megaf |
No, I meant what you first understood. Have university as non priority and put more time in Minetest |
| 20:48 |
Megaf |
but that is not a wise decision |
| 20:49 |
Megaf |
I sure made a mess in my nether repo :P |
| 20:50 |
Megaf |
https://github.com/Megaf/nether-pack/commits/master/nether |
| 20:50 |
Megaf |
paramat: https://github.com/Megaf/nether-pack/commit/c1f2375254d1c19f4c6b2e43093f4d846540782e#diff-952b4f7dab17414b330e4941a1c34462 |
| 20:50 |
* Megaf |
hides |
| 20:50 |
* Megaf |
sips his wine while hidden |
| 20:51 |
* benrob0329 |
ponders what is wrong with web technologies |
| 20:52 |
benrob0329 |
Reading the Pale Moon irc channel has shed some light into the crap that has to be done to make things work |
| 20:52 |
Megaf |
I dont like that browser |
| 20:52 |
Megaf |
It doesnt look right |
| 20:53 |
Megaf |
Minetest looks more right than pale moon to me |
| 20:54 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: I changed the theme and it looks beautiful :P |
| 20:54 |
benrob0329 |
Plus, no Mozilla or Google crap |
| 20:55 |
Megaf |
Vivaldi and Opera are beautiful browsers. Tho proprietary |
| 20:55 |
benrob0329 |
Exactly |
| 20:56 |
Megaf |
sofar: If I forked nether and called it hell. And made it different than nether we have in minetest-mods. Can we then have it in minetest-mods? |
| 20:56 |
Megaf |
Without being a modpack, of course |
| 20:56 |
Megaf |
brb, gonna get me charger |
| 20:56 |
benrob0329 |
Calling it hell might raise controversy 🤔 |
| 20:57 |
benrob0329 |
I mean, it is basically hell, but since its not called hell people are more ok with it. |
| 20:57 |
Megaf |
The commands and workings of the mod are hell already |
| 20:57 |
Megaf |
"/to_hell" "welcome to hell" |
| 20:58 |
Megaf |
and it is hell down there |
| 20:58 |
benrob0329 |
"Your going to have one hell of a time." |
| 20:59 |
Megaf |
I got players stuck there for several weeks |
| 20:59 |
Megaf |
gotta get more wine, brb |
| 21:01 |
Megaf |
How do I git push to GitHub with 2 factor auth? :S |
| 21:03 |
Megaf |
!up 5.196.88.227 30003 |
| 21:03 |
MinetestBot |
5.196.88.227:30003 is up (11ms) |
| 21:03 |
Megaf |
Testing if nether was finally fixed ^ |
| 21:04 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: pushing to github is usually done with ssh keys |
| 21:04 |
Megaf |
right |
| 21:05 |
* Megaf |
ignores that as he is not able to wrap his head around the next step at this time. |
| 21:06 |
Megaf |
paramat: sofar: I think is biome_lib whos crashing nether |
| 21:08 |
Megaf |
https://github.com/Megaf/nether-pack/issues/3 |
| 21:08 |
Megaf |
lets see what that line does |
| 21:09 |
paramat |
that might be a vector extras function too |
| 21:09 |
Megaf |
it is |
| 21:10 |
Megaf |
paramat: https://github.com/Megaf/nether-pack/blob/master/nether/init.lua#L832 |
| 21:10 |
paramat |
so add the function to nether |
| 21:11 |
Megaf |
on it |
| 21:12 |
Megaf |
that one is a big function, but I think I can do it |
| 21:16 |
* Megaf |
is terrible at coding |
| 21:18 |
Megaf |
I have to add the x y z thing? |
| 21:18 |
Megaf |
/init.lua:833: '(' expected near '.' |
| 21:18 |
Megaf |
https://github.com/Megaf/nether-pack/commit/de1a29d6a5adeee7ab20e4363a4a0d359e6559cc |
| 21:18 |
Megaf |
benrob0329: what did I do wrong? |
| 21:21 |
paramat |
remove 'funcs.' |
| 21:22 |
paramat |
oh |
| 21:22 |
benrob0329 |
Or remove local, if funcs is a table you dont define an object in it as local or global |
| 21:22 |
paramat |
you put the function inside the grow tree function |
| 21:22 |
paramat |
it should be outside |
| 21:23 |
Megaf |
but it is part of grow tree |
| 21:23 |
Megaf |
e |
| 21:23 |
paramat |
then inside the grow tree function you need 'local ps, trmin, trmax, trunk_count = get_data_pos_table(trunks)' |
| 21:23 |
paramat |
call it from grow tree |
| 21:24 |
Megaf |
me right now |
| 21:24 |
Megaf |
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/d6/d6a1143f571184db25f94613edd43b40af6d3a629221aba00d9efdcfef5efd84.jpg |
| 21:24 |
paramat |
define the function earlier in the file, before the 'grow tree' function |
| 21:25 |
Megaf |
what if the way I did just works? |
| 21:26 |
paramat |
see near the start of init.lua, add the function next to all the other defined functions |
| 21:27 |
paramat |
then just alter the line inside 'grow tree' that calls it by removing 'vector.' |
| 21:28 |
Megaf |
Quite a challenge, but let's go |
| 21:28 |
paramat |
doesn't matter if it works, its horrible code that redefines the function every time a tree is created, so is unnecessary processing |
| 21:29 |
Megaf |
ok, I moved the function to line 133, arround where other functions are defined too |
| 21:32 |
paramat |
added line comments to your commit |
| 21:32 |
paramat |
https://github.com/Megaf/nether-pack/commit/de1a29d6a5adeee7ab20e4363a4a0d359e6559cc |
| 21:32 |
Megaf |
will this work? https://github.com/Megaf/nether-pack/commit/dfc96578857bc013868cfacb85c232f812358957 |
| 21:35 |
Megaf |
https://s3.amazonaws.com/media-p.slid.es/uploads/409808/images/3587118/pasted-from-clipboard.png |
| 21:35 |
Megaf |
That ^ |
| 21:35 |
Megaf |
+1 |
| 21:37 |
Megaf |
ok, my changes are not what you suggested, will try again alter, too tired. Been concentrating too much |
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paramat |
added line comments, nearly there |
| 21:53 |
Megaf |
Ok paramat, thank you again. I have to go for a bit. Will continue later. |
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CWz |
i think the certificate manager doesn't work in libreoffice |
| 22:08 |
CWz |
googletime |
| 22:10 |
CWz |
eh |
| 22:24 |
Fixer |
d e p r e s s i o n |
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Roger9 |
hm |
| 22:37 |
Roger9 |
what does planet_keep_scale do in spheretest? |
| 22:38 |
Roger9 |
ah |
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Fixer |
"Yeah, even the list of major changes between 0.C and 0.D is/will be immense. There have been 22638 commits since 0.C, and over 4 million changed lines of code." |
| 23:27 |
Fixer |
O_O |
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red-001 |
what's 0.c? |
| 23:53 |
Fixer |
CDDA release |
| 23:54 |
Fixer |
if only MTG had so much activity and community |
