| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
Megaf |
+9000 |
| 00:00 |
Megaf |
my +9000 was to paramat |
| 00:00 |
Megaf |
benrob0329: I just commented on the copy and paste thing in the issue |
| 00:01 |
benrob0329 |
I dont want to get involved in argument, I'm involved in too many as it is |
| 00:02 |
* Megaf |
is wearing a santa claus hat |
| 00:02 |
Megaf |
It's cold in here... |
| 00:05 |
compunerd |
Thanks sofar... I have an awesome piece of hardware running a minetest game in one VM with a postgresql backend in another VM... Looking for someone who has time to moderate, build, and kinda watch over things... you may even earn ssh status if you prove to be helpful... message me personally if interested |
| 00:07 |
Megaf |
So many people creating new servers just for the sake of it and not actually wanting to have one |
| 00:07 |
Megaf |
yet many good servers are dying of because lack of players and intereset from players |
| 00:09 |
compunerd |
Yeah, I love the game... it's a time manage issue for me... I mainly set it up for my son... he's too into minecraft and it pisses me off... he's just a little young/immature to be a moderator himself... |
| 00:10 |
twoelk |
so many servers, so little time to play (maybe I should chat less and play more?) |
| 00:11 |
shivajiva |
it needs a unique flavour if it's gong to attract and sustain players |
| 00:11 |
Megaf |
I can sustain players |
| 00:11 |
Megaf |
been doing so for 5 years |
| 00:11 |
Megaf |
I just can't attract any new player xP |
| 00:12 |
* Jordach |
giggles |
| 00:12 |
Jordach |
did i ever mention that i can make a town full of entities and make it work? |
| 00:12 |
Jordach |
including some abuse of players and formspecs |
| 00:13 |
Jordach |
with some fancy camera work, i can make it mass effect styled |
| 00:13 |
compunerd |
How about ninja turtles... I already wrote the weapons mod... and you start out as a foot soldier... |
| 00:15 |
Sokomine |
paramat: hm, i'm sure a feature like "clickable links" would be welcomed by many players and server admins. still - most of what was said in the thread is also true. it has to be safe, has to actually be implemented by someone. and maybe copying to clipboard is really enough. that copying never really worked for me. perhaps with newer versions or additional mods |
| 00:15 |
Sokomine |
there will always be conflicts. but in general it seems to work fine here :-) |
| 00:16 |
Megaf |
paramat: can you remove the unconfirmed bug here please? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6727 |
| 00:16 |
Megaf |
!title |
| 00:16 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Default sneak key doesn't exist on macOS · Issue #6727 · minetest/minetest · GitHub |
| 00:16 |
Megaf |
That bug is very old. Like, since ever. |
| 00:16 |
Megaf |
really |
| 00:16 |
Megaf |
Though I have no idea how we can fix that. |
| 00:17 |
Sokomine |
compunerd: observe your players well and then choose who is fit to become a moderator. you'll certainly soon have people who want to become mod without beeing suited |
| 00:17 |
Sokomine |
Megaf: that's very true! there are a lot of good servers out there. they deserve more players |
| 00:17 |
Megaf |
Sokomine: all we need is a clipboard |
| 00:17 |
Megaf |
that works |
| 00:18 |
Sokomine |
twoelk: but we chat ingame as well :-) |
| 00:19 |
Sokomine |
Megaf: that ought to be enough, yes... |
| 00:21 |
twoelk |
I guess my main issue is irc is easier to hide at work (or explain it to be me doing research relevant for work) than a running game of minetest :D |
| 00:21 |
Sokomine |
:-) |
| 00:22 |
Megaf |
I actually played Minetest a lot in my last two jobs |
| 00:22 |
Megaf |
I was like a ninja to hide it |
| 00:23 |
lisac |
Megaf, twoelk, we need an ascii renderer |
| 00:23 |
lisac |
like dwarf fortress |
| 00:23 |
Megaf |
hah |
| 00:23 |
lisac |
'What are you doing?' |
| 00:23 |
lisac |
'Work, obviously.' |
| 00:23 |
compunerd |
I can't play at work... I can't connect back to my VPN at home either... No udp packets allowed through our network... |
| 00:24 |
twoelk |
yeah, I wish I would own one of those beasts of machines I sometimes use at work |
| 00:24 |
lisac |
then we need a websocket networking support, too |
| 00:24 |
lisac |
:) |
| 00:25 |
Megaf |
MinetestBot! |
| 00:25 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf! |
| 00:26 |
* Jordach |
adds the entire list of things for the farming card to sort |
| 00:26 |
lisac |
MinetestBot! |
| 00:26 |
MinetestBot |
lisac! |
| 00:26 |
Megaf |
hum |
| 00:26 |
lisac |
lisac! |
| 00:26 |
benrob0329 |
MinetestBot! |
| 00:26 |
MinetestBot |
benrob0329! |
| 00:26 |
Megaf |
MinetestBot! |
| 00:26 |
Megaf |
I'm lagging a lot |
| 00:26 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf! |
| 00:26 |
lisac |
MinetestBot: hello |
| 00:26 |
lisac |
hey MinetestBot |
| 00:26 |
MinetestBot |
Hello lisac |
| 00:26 |
lisac |
Hello MinetestBot |
| 00:26 |
MinetestBot |
sup lisac |
| 00:26 |
lisac |
sup MinetestBot |
| 00:26 |
benrob0329 |
!botsnack |
| 00:26 |
lisac |
:) |
| 00:26 |
benrob0329 |
MinetestBot: :) |
| 00:27 |
twoelk |
I actually stumbled over minetest when I was searching for a 3D world to simulate smoke. it was the more-trees mod the really pulled me in though - never did that smoke plume simulator |
| 00:27 |
benrob0329 |
twoelk: dew it |
| 00:27 |
benrob0329 |
Let the smoke flow through you |
| 00:28 |
benrob0329 |
Fulfil your destiny, and your journey to the test side will be complete |
| 00:28 |
lisac |
DO IT |
| 00:29 |
twoelk |
nah, way beyond my abbilities and will to devote enough time for that - although nothing really convincing has been done yet. |
| 00:30 |
twoelk |
I mean to simulate smoke to design emergency concepts - not holywood type smoke |
| 00:30 |
benrob0329 |
Ah |
| 00:32 |
* twoelk |
is so glad he isn't involved in the berlin airport building scandals of not working smoke extraction systems |
| 00:32 |
lisac |
twoelk: make air expand like a liquid |
| 00:32 |
lisac |
then make smoke overwrite it |
| 00:32 |
lisac |
so you need to eliminate the source |
| 00:32 |
lisac |
and air will slowly reclaim it |
| 00:33 |
lisac |
and of course, make smoke damage player per sec |
| 00:33 |
Megaf |
Thanks paramat (regarding list of sneak) |
| 00:34 |
twoelk |
yeah, had some bubbles floating around like ballons and fillimg rooms - wasn't realistic |
| 00:49 |
Megaf |
Minetest has 777 issues right now |
| 00:49 |
Megaf |
I'm feeling this is the time Minetest will finally take off |
| 00:50 |
Megaf |
Fixer: you think is too hard to implement this? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4564 |
| 01:03 |
Megaf |
How can I adopt a PR? |
| 01:09 |
sofar |
make a new PR with the same content, but fixed up, stating that you're taking over the old PR |
| 01:11 |
paramat |
make a new branch for your PR, navigate to that directory in terminal, then .. |
| 01:11 |
paramat |
wget https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1234.patch |
| 01:11 |
paramat |
git am 1234.patch |
| 01:11 |
paramat |
i think |
| 01:12 |
paramat |
should apply the changes to your branch |
| 01:12 |
sofar |
you can simplify that, even |
| 01:12 |
sofar |
curl -L https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1234.patch | git am |
| 01:12 |
sofar |
but, sure |
| 01:12 |
sofar |
however, that is the hard way |
| 01:12 |
sofar |
since it will probably fail to am |
| 01:13 |
paramat |
oh yeah |
| 01:13 |
sofar |
better is to fetch the branch from the PR from the submitters' remote |
| 01:13 |
paramat |
if conflicts |
| 01:13 |
sofar |
then rebase that |
| 01:13 |
sofar |
still a lot of work |
| 01:13 |
Megaf |
There's a PR that just needs rebase |
| 01:13 |
Megaf |
I will just edit by hand the code... |
| 01:14 |
paramat |
shadowninja's one? |
| 01:14 |
Megaf |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/3827/files |
| 01:15 |
Megaf |
what's git am supposed to do? |
| 01:15 |
sofar |
apply mail |
| 01:15 |
sofar |
it's meant for applying patches from emails |
| 01:16 |
Megaf |
well, it needs rebase |
| 01:19 |
Megaf |
nevermind |
| 01:19 |
Megaf |
I don't really think that PR is necessary after all |
| 01:19 |
Megaf |
by the way, I reviewed most of the one aproval PRs |
| 01:19 |
Megaf |
most are find to be merged |
| 01:19 |
Megaf |
fine* |
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Megaf |
we need full time devs in Minetest xP |
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| 01:34 |
Megaf |
good night folks |
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| 10:38 |
IhrFussel |
Will WorldEdit amrk the modified mapblocks as "modified" automatically or does the player need to refresh them first? |
| 10:38 |
IhrFussel |
mark* |
| 10:39 |
IhrFussel |
Cause sometimes it looks like part of the area wasn't modified yet (but could also be cause of mapblock cache) |
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sfan5 |
IhrFussel: thats the responsibility of the engine and it should work |
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| 12:02 |
Krock |
The funny side-effect of the raised object properties version is that you can punch (and hurt) yourself when using a different version than the server |
| 12:03 |
Krock |
so there's an unknown object underneath that tracks you, but which is actually the player self |
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nerzhul |
Krock, very strange, how this can affect client ? very old properties ? |
| 13:27 |
sfan5 |
nerzhul: paramats commit dropped support for all previous ObjectProperties versions |
| 13:28 |
sfan5 |
so the client doesn't understand that the object is actually the local player itself |
| 13:28 |
Krock |
^ that. Clients can still connect but errors will income in-game |
| 13:28 |
nerzhul |
that's not good |
| 13:29 |
nerzhul |
object properties version should be linked to a protocol range |
| 13:29 |
sfan5 |
it's not the first compat-breaking change in 0.5, not a problem IMO |
| 13:31 |
Krock |
real global textures was the same. a serialisation version was increased but not the protocol version. just with the difference that clients couldn't connect to the servers at all anymore |
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| 13:49 |
ThomasMonroe |
anyone get crazy PM msg from OC? |
| 13:50 |
Jordach |
lol no |
| 13:55 |
Megaf |
Greetings |
| 13:56 |
ThomasMonroe |
well I did, hmm |
| 13:57 |
ThomasMonroe |
lol |
| 13:59 |
Krock |
[oof] in the meantime, 89 other messages were sent on the forum (PM or regular posts) |
| 14:00 |
Krock |
oof |
| 14:00 |
Jordach |
oof |
| 14:00 |
Jordach |
the new hurt sound in MT |
| 14:00 |
ThomasMonroe |
heh, why not? |
| 14:00 |
Krock |
Jordach, please add it to solar plains |
| 14:00 |
Jordach |
https://i.4cdn.org/g/1512806012811.png |
| 14:03 |
ThomasMonroe |
Jordach, O_o |
| 14:04 |
Megaf |
!tell paramat Hi paramat, I can remove the thumbs up but I can't remove the code review approvals. Which one should I stop using? |
| 14:04 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: yeah, sure, whatever |
| 14:05 |
ThomasMonroe |
!tell paramat hey paramat, I finished #6702; got rid of the caps except for the abbreviations |
| 14:05 |
MinetestBot |
ThomasMonroe: I'll pass that on when paramat is around |
| 14:05 |
ThomasMonroe |
forgot about that feature :P |
| 14:06 |
Krock |
Megaf, I guess he meant the code review. |
| 14:06 |
Megaf |
hm |
| 14:07 |
Krock |
tell paramat jeff. my name is jeff |
| 14:07 |
Megaf |
I can't dereview a code, unfortunetly. But every single core dev knows I'm not a core dev anyway. |
| 14:11 |
IhrFussel |
Why do your even give access to tools regular users shouldn't even use? That is dumb, it's like I publically offer admin shields on my server and expect only certain players to take them |
| 14:11 |
IhrFussel |
you* |
| 14:12 |
IhrFussel |
Can't you restrict on github which user can access what feature in a repo? |
| 14:14 |
Krock |
no, the issues can only be disabled entirely |
| 14:15 |
IhrFussel |
Github is extremely limited then I gotta say |
| 14:16 |
Krock |
it would be more limited without the review functionality |
| 14:21 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, I mean in terms of user groups/ranks/permissions ... something like phpbb could be useful |
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Megaf |
Welcome back Amaz Jordach |
| 14:46 |
Amaz |
Thanks Megaf! |
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Krock |
o/ Amaz, RubenBot |
| 14:48 |
Krock |
* rubenwardy |
| 14:48 |
rubenwardy |
yo |
| 14:49 |
Megaf |
Hi rubenwardy |
| 14:50 |
Amaz |
Hi Krock :) |
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jas_ |
+1 |
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Megaf |
cya |
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benrob0329 |
49,152 polygons on a 64x64 dropped item |
| 17:42 |
benrob0329 |
That is insane |
| 17:43 |
benrob0329 |
Although for that matter, the wieldhand is probably just as bad |
| 17:44 |
benrob0329 |
But just on 16x16 textures, you can end up with 3,072 polygons. |
| 17:50 |
Jordach |
benrob0329, remember that the full size 16x16 faces,eg front and back, are likely two tris |
| 17:51 |
benrob0329 |
Jordach: I dont think its that smart, especially with the old wieldhand bug on Windows |
| 17:52 |
benrob0329 |
Where each pixel was rotated 45° |
| 17:55 |
benrob0329 |
But even so thats still 2,052 tris, 32,772 for a 64x64 texture |
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Fixer |
Jordach: added inv management issue here https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6757 (can't find a good and up to date list of mc inv hotkeys in text though) |
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Sokomine |
updated my replacer mod. blocks can now be blacklisted. if you experience any problems please report them (best in irc) |
| 20:43 |
Sokomine |
there was also a bug regarding the protection system. updating is recommended |
| 20:54 |
Fixer |
Sokomine: have you updated images on your forum topic about it? |
| 20:55 |
Krock |
Fixer, your ninja'd me. Wanted to ask te same thing |
| 20:55 |
Krock |
still mediacru.sh links. down. |
| 20:56 |
Krock |
Sokomine, no need to check whether minetest.is_protected is a function. If it's not, then it's nil - and with it a very old 0.4.6 (perhaps?) client |
| 20:57 |
Sokomine |
Fixer: no. i didn't find the old ones again :-( but i've added a short description of what the replacer does. it may help more than the screenshots in this place |
| 20:57 |
Fixer |
Sokomine: just post a simple image of wand in hand and crafting receipe |
| 20:58 |
Sokomine |
Krock: hm, yes. but my old code was wrong. type( minetest.is_protected == "function") is not exactly...er..what was intended (case of missing brackets, or rather - bracket at wone place) |
| 20:59 |
Sokomine |
Fixer: that might be a solution. just had a problem with my local game as well. somehow my crafting grid in unified_inventory is broken. probably due to experiments |
| 21:02 |
Krock |
Sokomine, but what has changed now? The function still returns in all cases before "local ownername = false" is executed |
| 21:02 |
Krock |
only "return res;" when it's true, next to the "Cannot place node." notification. Or am I mistaken? |
| 21:04 |
Fixer |
Sokomine: can it replace blocks in bulk? |
| 21:05 |
Fixer |
Sokomine: you can replace attachments with newer versions |
| 21:06 |
Fixer |
Sokomine: and remove those image image image if you are too lazy to add them :) |
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Fixer |
Sokomine: recovered some images https://web.archive.org/web/20150405134029/https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4676 |
| 21:11 |
IhrFussel |
"1 account per person" way too many ignore this rule...and I can never know if they are really the same person or siblings/family |
| 21:21 |
Fixer |
https://i.imgur.com/kKVHCEe.png |
| 21:24 |
Krock |
straight |
| 21:30 |
xerox123 |
how do I increase the number of connections from an IP? |
| 21:32 |
Calinou |
xerox123: where, and why? |
| 21:32 |
Sokomine |
Krock: i left the very old code for compatibility reasons. i'm not sure if anyone still needs that |
| 21:32 |
Calinou |
Minetest does not cap players per IP by default, IIRC |
| 21:32 |
IhrFussel |
I don't think there is a limit for that...right now I have 3 players on my server connecting via the same IP |
| 21:32 |
Sokomine |
provided it'd run in such old versions at all |
| 21:32 |
xerox123 |
oh, so it may be xban? |
| 21:32 |
xerox123 |
or some other mod |
| 21:32 |
Sokomine |
Fixer: no, the replacer does not replace blocks in bulk. that's what worldedit is for |
| 21:32 |
Fixer |
Krock: NSFW part is funny |
| 21:33 |
Sokomine |
Fixer: they show at least that there used to be images :-) oh? recovered? that sounds good |
| 21:33 |
xerox123 |
connected to trashy******* |
| 21:33 |
xerox123 |
lol |
| 21:34 |
IhrFussel |
xerox123, xban restriction is the most likely candidate |
| 21:34 |
Fixer |
Sokomine: like this https://youtu.be/Q5bHvFUvYxM?t=263 |
| 21:35 |
Fixer |
Sokomine: it is nice, trust me |
| 21:41 |
Calinou |
Krock: that Apple pentagram :D |
| 21:41 |
Fixer |
Sokomine: also, we need smth like this too, very useful for builders https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsC_zjmZBus (maybe we already have?) |
| 21:42 |
xerox123 |
does this "ipnames.name_per_ip_limit = tonumber(minetest.setting_get("max_names_per_ip")) or 5 |
| 21:42 |
xerox123 |
" mean that max_names_per_ip is a minetest.conf setting? |
| 21:43 |
Krock |
yes |
| 21:46 |
Calinou |
xerox123: that's a mod |
| 21:46 |
Calinou |
and yes, the default is 5 |
| 21:46 |
Calinou |
unless you override it using "max_names_per_ip" in minetest.conf |
| 21:46 |
xerox123 |
yeah it's in names_per_ip |
| 21:46 |
xerox123 |
and I've overridden it |
| 21:46 |
xerox123 |
should be all sorted now |
| 21:52 |
CWz |
This comunity has lots of weirdos |
| 21:52 |
CWz |
but on bright note yay for diversity |
| 21:56 |
Sokomine |
fixer: can you explain what it is? i'm reluctant to watch yt videos. usually takes so long - while reading one sentence is fast |
| 21:57 |
Fixer |
Sokomine: your replacer replaces one block at a time, but if you have more in inventory you can point it and switch to bulk replacing (volumatic) |
| 21:57 |
Fixer |
Sokomine: second video is basicly building wands, that can continue building basic structures in one click - horiz, vert, etc |
| 21:58 |
Fixer |
Sokomine: you outline your walls by one block tall, and then wand will build all the wall up once after each click |
| 21:58 |
Fixer |
etc |
| 21:58 |
Fixer |
Sokomine: those videos are pretty short |
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Calinou |
CWz: every open source project has its weirdos |
| 22:00 |
Calinou |
(and even outside of open source, anyway) |
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sfan5 |
it's almost as if there are a certain percentage of weirdos in society |
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* Fixer |
overclocks |
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* Calinou |
original characters |
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Sokomine |
Fixer: ah. i think i remember a mod in that direction. perhaps i really ought to view the video |
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* Fixer |
right now https://i.imgur.com/AfS4DKg.png |
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Jordach |
spectrum elite? |
| 22:30 |
Jordach |
git gud and FE |
| 22:31 |
Fixer |
yeah |
| 22:31 |
Fixer |
sadly i missed elite when I had spectrum |
| 22:32 |
Fixer |
nah, it is pain to dock without joystick |
| 22:33 |
Fixer |
i did play elite in emulator in my dell on winppc2003 |
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Sokomine |
:-) i liked frontier/first encounters better than the original version |
| 22:36 |
Fixer |
feeling like mazo |
| 22:43 |
Fixer |
keyboard shortcuts are nightmare on zx |
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Fixer |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMvFjhzQQ-U |
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* Jordach |
has working sorter connectors |
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Jordach |
FeelsGoodMan |
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Fixer |
ha, simutrans on steam |
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