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00:11 |
Natechip |
working hard gets you places |
00:58 |
Megaf |
My GNOME 3 right now https://imgur.com/gallery/4uAWl |
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01:13 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: interesting |
01:13 |
Megaf |
I wanted a mix of macOS and Win10 actually |
01:14 |
ThomasMonroe |
that would be interesting |
01:16 |
benrob0329 |
My Bspwm atm (laptop config) |
01:17 |
* benrob0329 |
uploaded an image: 1508721393.png (1659KB) <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/vnolgRLjytXEVrzNiSkDrTYA> |
01:17 |
Megaf |
what kind of file manager is that? |
01:19 |
benrob0329 |
ranger, it uses the same kind of layout as MacOS's finder |
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srifqi |
hi! |
02:40 |
Natechip |
hello |
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04:26 |
jas_ |
servers running: dcbl.duckdns.org:30000, 30002: dev, 30003: 0.4.16 (stock, default), 30005: 0.5.0 (stock, default). |
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11:24 |
IhrFussel |
I added genders to my modified mobs API ... and since animals always have a name tag in it I can simply display the gender after that name tag |
11:27 |
Fuchs |
do you need mixed gender animals for breeding, then? |
11:46 |
IhrFussel |
Yes, that way there won't be any awkward moments like "tom" and "thomas" having a baby |
11:46 |
Fuchs |
might be tricky for animals that are hard to find / catch, but yes, makes sense |
11:47 |
IhrFussel |
Well it will encourage my players to look further for animals =P |
11:48 |
IhrFussel |
Or in other words look for the gender they want |
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12:01 |
Fuchs |
do they have different skins? |
12:02 |
Fuchs |
like, in the real world animals tend to look different, male to female. At least some of them (less so the usual stuff, like canines and bunnies and horses) |
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12:16 |
jas_ |
lol? i guess, if you flip them upside down. |
12:24 |
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12:24 |
Megaf |
Hi all |
12:24 |
jas_ |
greetings |
12:24 |
Megaf |
Any news from Nateship? |
12:25 |
jas_ |
what do you mean? |
12:25 |
Megaf |
Early this morning he was venturing in installing Debian |
12:25 |
Megaf |
I'd like to know how it went |
12:26 |
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12:26 |
jas_ |
i dunno, i just hit PgUp a bunch and didn't see anything, dood |
12:26 |
jas_ |
doesn't look good |
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12:27 |
jas_ |
should just buy a pc with linux |
12:28 |
Megaf |
I can't disagree |
12:28 |
Megaf |
And back in the day there was plenty of machines with Unix OSes |
12:29 |
jas_ |
it would come with games |
12:29 |
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12:30 |
Megaf |
AIX became OpenSource!? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Unix_history-simple.svg |
12:31 |
Megaf |
Nome |
12:31 |
Megaf |
Nope, not at all |
12:32 |
* jas_ |
is compiling to test bindable dig/place |
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12:33 |
jas_ |
right now i got esdf movement, and txcvargb slots1-8 |
12:33 |
jas_ |
it's going to be weird going back to mouse2 to jum |
12:33 |
jas_ |
p |
12:36 |
Megaf |
hm, OpenServer is OpenSource now, I still dont quite get it the relation with AIX https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenServer |
12:36 |
Jordach |
the line goes to FreeBSD |
12:36 |
Megaf |
jas_, why you did that? |
12:36 |
Jordach |
you silly Megaf |
12:37 |
jas_ |
i can move and pick keys very easy |
12:37 |
Megaf |
Jordach, Thanks! |
12:37 |
jas_ |
and i always did right mouse button to jump in games |
12:39 |
Megaf |
anyone into mouse/mice traps? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3rrdMKhUoI |
12:46 |
jas_ |
WWAAAAHH hahahha *tears of joy* |
12:46 |
jas_ |
it's so beautiful |
12:46 |
jas_ |
ty .. samcaulfield |
12:47 |
Fixer |
other type of mouse trap: https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b7/3d/51/b73d519955787de21f8bec22f70aa12f--mouse-traps-the-japanese.jpg |
12:48 |
jas_ |
now that i'm right click jumping it feels more like quake, and i'm going to make some jump tracks |
12:54 |
Fixer |
mouse traps are damn loud |
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14:10 |
Megaf |
guys, opinions on my current desktop please https://imgur.com/gallery/8WImJ |
14:11 |
Raven262 |
I like it =) |
14:11 |
Raven262 |
Mostly cause its clean. |
14:12 |
Megaf |
I cant make my mind if I prefer Numix theme set or Breeze |
14:12 |
Raven262 |
I chose breeze, I like it more for some reason :P |
14:13 |
Megaf |
this is Numix https://imgur.com/a/4uAWl |
14:13 |
Raven262 |
Though i like to recolor stuff, my Desktop is blue. |
14:13 |
Calinou |
hi |
14:13 |
Megaf |
Hi Calinou |
14:13 |
Raven262 |
o/ Calinou |
14:13 |
rubenwardy |
prefered yourprevious background, Megaf |
14:13 |
rubenwardy |
I think you posted it earlier today |
14:14 |
rubenwardy |
that one has too much noise |
14:14 |
Calinou |
my Manjaro VM looks like this: https://media.hugo.pro/VirtualBox_2017-10-23_16-13-52.png |
14:14 |
Calinou |
Raven262: nope, not yet |
14:14 |
Megaf |
https://imgur.com/a/4uAWl rubenwardy this one |
14:14 |
rubenwardy |
yeah, that's really nice |
14:14 |
Megaf |
dat resolution Calinou |
14:14 |
rubenwardy |
not keen on fixed launchers in task bar personally, but it does look so nice |
14:15 |
Calinou |
yeah, with the Guest Additions, the VM can run at 2560×1440 goodness :) |
14:15 |
Megaf |
Calinou, I like the icon theme |
14:15 |
Calinou |
I left the default icons/theme from Manjaro KDE |
14:15 |
Calinou |
I changed the font to Inter UI, with hinting disabled, though |
14:15 |
Megaf |
rubenwardy, I do it mostly because aesthetics yes |
14:15 |
Calinou |
and made the task bar use a classic "task bar" thing, rather than a Windows 7-like thing with only icons |
14:16 |
Megaf |
since I start programs mostly from command line or "run" dialog |
14:16 |
Megaf |
Calinou, that's not 7-like |
14:16 |
Megaf |
macOS has been like that before Windows even existed |
14:16 |
Calinou |
well, Windows 7 introduced it in the task bar |
14:16 |
Calinou |
I always disable it :P |
14:17 |
Calinou |
(and use compact taskbar) |
14:17 |
Megaf |
if you look at my Windows 10 VM, you will see that I have it disabled to on the taskbar |
14:17 |
Megaf |
I hate window grouping |
14:18 |
Raven262 |
This is my desktop right now: https://i.imgur.com/whn0lzg.png |
14:18 |
Megaf |
Raven262, very noisy :P |
14:18 |
Raven262 |
But makes me creative :P |
14:18 |
rubenwardy |
https://i.rubenwardy.com/prbyRGMOph.png |
14:18 |
Megaf |
but I like the choice of theme and colours |
14:18 |
Raven262 |
I hope. |
14:19 |
rubenwardy |
oops |
14:19 |
rubenwardy |
https://i.rubenwardy.com/AKUWNC9WM2.png |
14:19 |
sfan5 |
why not 17.10 |
14:19 |
Megaf |
thumbs up for XFCE |
14:20 |
Megaf |
double thumbs down for Ubuntu :P |
14:20 |
rubenwardy |
I was using it all day yesterday, so haven't updated it yet |
14:20 |
Raven262 |
I updated yesterday i think. |
14:20 |
rubenwardy |
but will do when I have less coursework |
14:21 |
rubenwardy |
xubuntu, not by canocial |
14:21 |
rubenwardy |
I think |
14:21 |
Megaf |
hm, let me try Numix icon theme and Breeze GTK theme |
14:21 |
rubenwardy |
same PPAs though |
14:21 |
rubenwardy |
just no adware |
14:21 |
Aerozoic |
Anybody do anything creative with these little intel stickers after they unstick from ur laptop? |
14:22 |
Megaf |
if intel I put in hte bin |
14:22 |
Megaf |
you can sell them on ebay tho |
14:22 |
* Raven262 |
hides his AMD PC. |
14:22 |
* Megaf |
fan of AMD |
14:23 |
Aerozoic |
I'm not a fan of intel either, lol. If i coulda got AMD i would have. |
14:23 |
Megaf |
I'm buying either a ThreadRipper or Epyc when I get the money |
14:23 |
Raven262 |
Nice, I bought it cause it was way cheaper than an Intel with the same specs :P |
14:24 |
Megaf |
I am actually inclined to buy a dual CPU Epyc motherboard, with two Epyc CPUs, a Vega VGA, some PCI-E SSDs and put all in a suitcase |
14:24 |
Raven262 |
I'm unsure though if the APU was a better choice than a real graphics card. |
14:24 |
Raven262 |
lol |
14:24 |
Megaf |
Making a portable workstation |
14:25 |
Megaf |
Raven262, there are some Ryzen based APUs coming |
14:25 |
Megaf |
those will be pretty good |
14:25 |
Megaf |
Raven262, if you can get Quad Channel DDR4 memory then you will have pretty good performance for an integrated GPU |
14:27 |
Megaf |
Arc-Darker GTK theme and Breeze icon theme, https://i.imgur.com/W7Sy5Tt.png |
14:27 |
Megaf |
I think that's ideal |
14:28 |
Raven262 |
I have concluded that it might be that time of the year when i change the theme of my PC :P |
14:33 |
Calinou |
quad channel hardly matters |
14:33 |
Calinou |
(the Ryzen APUs will have quad channel? that sounds surprising, too) |
14:34 |
Calinou |
Raven262: IGP performance surprises me a lot sometimes (both positively and negatively) |
14:35 |
Calinou |
I can get 90-120 FPS on DarkPlaces in 1920×1080, on an Intel HD 3000 (a very old IGP, on an i7-2600K) |
14:35 |
Calinou |
that's the PC I gave to my mom :P |
14:35 |
Calinou |
it's with low settings (but with r_shadows 2!), but still |
14:35 |
Calinou |
meanwhile… the Intel HD 620 that's on an i7-7500U (my laptop) can't play Doom 3 with everything lowered well |
14:35 |
Calinou |
(even with all shadows forced off) |
14:36 |
Calinou |
Trackmania Nations Forever is only playable with lowest settings (and textures kept to High) |
14:36 |
Calinou |
(playable is "never below 40 FPS" to me, on a laptop) |
14:36 |
Megaf |
That's a nice browser https://i.imgur.com/VVd2hzL.png |
14:36 |
* Wayward_One |
peeks in |
14:36 |
Calinou |
Vivaldi? |
14:37 |
Megaf |
<Calinou> quad channel hardly matters |
14:37 |
Megaf |
disagree |
14:37 |
Megaf |
Calinou> (the Ryzen APUs will have quad channel? that sounds surprising, too) |
14:37 |
Megaf |
no idea |
14:37 |
Megaf |
Calinou, yep |
14:38 |
Megaf |
basically all amazing Opera engineers who created the true Opera, left Opera and made Vivaldi |
14:38 |
rubenwardy |
someone using Vivaldi????? |
14:38 |
rubenwardy |
:O |
14:38 |
Megaf |
Vivaldi is the spiritual continuation of Opera |
14:39 |
Megaf |
I still use Opera 12.16 now and then. Still there's nothing like it no a days |
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14:44 |
Raven262 |
Megaf, remember my desktop from a few minutes ago? This is what happened for a moment when i started TF2 and Alt+Tab to the desktop. Only for a moment but i was somehow able to capture it https://i.imgur.com/GFfr4Bv.png |
14:47 |
Megaf |
Raven262, scary |
14:48 |
Raven262 |
All the things that KDE has done to my desktop over the last few months were indeed scary Oo |
14:48 |
Raven262 |
I have seen many things of this sort. |
14:50 |
Megaf |
I has been said before, KDE is super buggy |
14:50 |
Megaf |
GNOME 3 is way more polished |
14:52 |
rdococ |
lol, this tablet lets me multitask. something apple didnt do. |
14:57 |
Megaf |
Did anyone notice the new LibreOffice interface in my screenshot? |
14:57 |
Megaf |
https://i.imgur.com/45gITEW.png |
14:58 |
Megaf |
I don't like it much, but they are going to the right direction I think |
14:58 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: interesting |
14:58 |
Calinou |
I didn't |
14:58 |
Calinou |
it takes way too much vertical space :( |
14:59 |
Calinou |
do developers understand it's precious in 2017? |
14:59 |
Calinou |
16:9 is the new 4:3 :) |
14:59 |
benrob0329 |
Vivaldi is an interesting idea as well, though its neither free nor packaged by most distros |
15:01 |
Megaf |
For some time I used PCLinuxOS, It was awesome, it supported my ATI VGA out of the box and came with Opera as default browser |
15:01 |
Megaf |
what else could I ask for? It was perfect |
15:01 |
Calinou |
more than 10 users? |
15:01 |
Calinou |
:D |
15:02 |
Megaf |
PCLinuxOS was larger back then |
15:02 |
rdococ |
Lol |
15:02 |
rdococ |
Lol |
15:02 |
rdococ |
Oops, that sent twice |
15:03 |
benrob0329 |
I quite like Void atm, its fairly minimal (actually I wish tbe base system had some more standard tools like gcc) but quite fast and flexible |
15:03 |
rubenwardy |
Megaf, looks bugged |
15:03 |
benrob0329 |
Not as high maintenance as Gentoo |
15:08 |
Megaf |
rubenwardy, what looks bugged |
15:08 |
Megaf |
? |
15:09 |
rubenwardy |
libre office |
15:09 |
rubenwardy |
looks like it's broken |
15:12 |
benrob0329 |
Plot twist: all word processors are broken |
15:15 |
Megaf |
I like how we can make a good use of space on Vivaldi https://imgur.com/a/ytftV |
15:16 |
Megaf |
rubenwardy, I agree, I just opened my CV that I started using word online to edit, then I used WPS, and now I opened it in LibreOffice, total mess in LibreOffice |
15:16 |
Megaf |
beutiful on WPS |
15:16 |
Megaf |
no idea how it looks in word |
15:17 |
Megaf |
benrob0329, I totally agree |
15:17 |
rubenwardy |
I use libreoffice, and it works fine for me |
15:17 |
jas_ |
https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/781r96/4dwm_party_like_its_1997/ <-- megaf you go to this sub? |
15:17 |
rubenwardy |
I don't care about word compatibility though |
15:17 |
jas_ |
love it lol |
15:19 |
jas_ |
twm: https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/783576/twm_minimal_simple_is_awesome/ <-- miss that one |
15:19 |
benrob0329 |
LaTeX FTW :P |
15:19 |
Calinou |
https://media.hugo.pro/firefox_2017-10-23_17-19-25.png |
15:19 |
Calinou |
help Tiled reach its Patreon goal of $null! |
15:19 |
Calinou |
;) |
15:19 |
benrob0329 |
(Tbh LaTeX is actually really cool, it almost makes me with I wrote more things) |
15:19 |
Megaf |
jas_, hah, awesome |
15:21 |
Megaf |
opened my CV on word online, a full page is just missing, and the color is like a carnival |
15:21 |
benrob0329 |
jas_: its not tiling though :^) |
15:21 |
Megaf |
compatibility between text editors is none |
15:22 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: text files work great |
15:23 |
benrob0329 |
LaTeX too, and Markdown |
15:23 |
Calinou |
Office 2016 is still terrible at opening ODF files |
15:23 |
Calinou |
thanks Microsoft! |
15:23 |
benrob0329 |
No problems with compatibility, Vim, Emacs, ee, Nano, Atom, Sublime |
15:24 |
Megaf |
*compatibility between advanced text editors is none |
15:24 |
Megaf |
*compatibility between advanced text editors is none |
15:25 |
Megaf |
better? |
15:25 |
Megaf |
pure text doesnt matter |
15:25 |
Megaf |
but even so in pure text theres still problems, like end of line things and tabulation |
15:25 |
benrob0329 |
I guarantee you that neither Emacs nor Vim are basic |
15:25 |
Megaf |
tabs are replaced by spaces |
15:26 |
Megaf |
benrob0329, basic I mean, text caracteres only, no tables, formating, fonts or anything else |
15:26 |
benrob0329 |
Thats editor config, and who uses tabs outside of code? |
15:26 |
Megaf |
I do... |
15:26 |
Megaf |
tab is amazing to justify |
15:26 |
Megaf |
you dont have a ruler in vim or emacs |
15:27 |
Megaf |
again, they are basic because no formating at all |
15:27 |
Megaf |
latex and markdown are not editors, |
15:27 |
benrob0329 |
You would be amazed |
15:28 |
benrob0329 |
Wrong, actually |
15:28 |
Megaf |
and every site/software has its own flavour of markdown |
15:28 |
benrob0329 |
Emacs for sure has formatting if configured |
15:28 |
benrob0329 |
Vim can have formatting, but not as much because terminal |
15:28 |
Megaf |
latex would be the only true standard. If only LibreOffice and Word supported it... |
15:29 |
Megaf |
But again, we have ODT, ODF and OpenXML already, and again, every software interprets it in it's own way |
15:29 |
benrob0329 |
LaTeX has some dedicated editors if you really dont want to learn it (which is the best way to write it) |
15:29 |
Megaf |
like browsers do with HTML... |
15:29 |
Megaf |
benrob0329, I dont want to lean a language to write text... |
15:30 |
benrob0329 |
Ok, LaTeX and CommonMark are standard |
15:30 |
Megaf |
a formating language that is |
15:30 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: you really don't know how LaTeX works, it really is nice for stuff |
15:30 |
Megaf |
I want to make a nice CV, with cool formating, spaces and some tables. Bullet points and stuff |
15:31 |
Megaf |
benrob0329, I know it doesnt work like "word" |
15:31 |
benrob0329 |
https://youtu.be/lQ-UCI9nmis |
15:32 |
Megaf |
and actually LibreOffice Writer is the only editor I found that is 100% compatible with my workflow |
15:32 |
Megaf |
the only one I can select multiple words and line everywhere in the document at the same time by using the ctrl key, |
15:34 |
Megaf |
Stupid presentation... |
15:34 |
* Megaf |
has ADHD, I dont have brain for that shit |
15:34 |
* Megaf |
hits l key like crazy, still couldnt skit the introduction |
15:35 |
Calinou |
some guy at my university writes his notes using LaTeX |
15:35 |
Calinou |
I admire him :P |
15:35 |
Calinou |
he also uses Linux |
15:35 |
Calinou |
(a few people use Linux, all with GNOME for some reason) |
15:35 |
Megaf |
none in my class use Linux, just me, and some use macOS |
15:36 |
Calinou |
:( |
15:36 |
Calinou |
I used to be the only Linux user at my previous uni too |
15:36 |
Calinou |
this university is Linux-friendly, but my laptop isn't |
15:36 |
Megaf |
benrob0329, the bibliography/refference thing is cool |
15:37 |
Calinou |
I use LibreOffice for note taking here :P |
15:37 |
rubenwardy |
<Calinou> some guy at my university writes his notes using LaTeX |
15:37 |
Calinou |
</pleb> |
15:37 |
rubenwardy |
heh |
15:37 |
rubenwardy |
over half do that here |
15:37 |
Calinou |
whoa |
15:37 |
rubenwardy |
it's encouraged by the uni, there's even lectures in first year on it |
15:37 |
Calinou |
honestly, the level at my university isn't too high |
15:37 |
rubenwardy |
you don't lose marks though |
15:37 |
rubenwardy |
+if you don't use it |
15:37 |
Megaf |
Calinou, I'm using Google Docs |
15:37 |
Megaf |
pretty happy with it |
15:37 |
Calinou |
I don't know LaTeX anyway |
15:38 |
Megaf |
it just gets complicated with math formulas |
15:38 |
Calinou |
I don't have enough interest in learning it |
15:38 |
Calinou |
(I don't need to write complex math formulas) |
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15:44 |
benrob0329 |
Calinou: LaTeX is very much not just for super complex stuff |
15:44 |
Shara |
LaTeX is suggested for some modules on my course, but they expect you to teach yourself if you choose to use it. I found it easier to learn it than to worry about an alternative. |
15:45 |
benrob0329 |
The point of it is that you write what the heck it is, and it figures out how the heck it'll look (in proper typeset form) |
15:46 |
Shara |
In other words, I found LaTeX easier to learn than the effort of getting my scanner working (they accepted handwritten submissions) |
15:48 |
benrob0329 |
It figures out table size, bibliographies, bullets, indentation, table of contents, page breaks, it'll format book chapters properly of you want, hyphenize words, etc, etc, etc |
15:50 |
Megaf |
Changing topics, Skype in the near future will be just a web page in all platforms https://www.skype.com/en/insider/ |
15:50 |
benrob0329 |
Skype can go die |
15:50 |
Megaf |
but this is not too bad, at least it will look the same and have the same function in all platforms |
15:50 |
Megaf |
benrob0329, easy today that when you dont need it |
15:50 |
Megaf |
and Skype is less bad than WhatsApp, WhatsApp must die |
15:51 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: I left Skype, I dropped it purposefully |
15:51 |
Megaf |
Everybody should use Signal for SMS and IM and Telegram for WhatsApp |
15:51 |
benrob0329 |
Matrix FTW |
15:51 |
benrob0329 |
No, not telegram |
15:52 |
Fixer |
i've noticed that Calinou posts too much stuff like I was registered here for more than 1 year... |
15:52 |
Fixer |
here is my turn |
15:52 |
benrob0329 |
Telegram...centralised and half way open sourcing for a non encrypted service |
15:52 |
benrob0329 |
No thanks |
15:52 |
Fixer |
i'm using same download manager for 12+ years, downloaded 640GB with it and going strong |
15:52 |
Fixer |
43000 files |
15:53 |
Fixer |
also, flashgot is life |
15:53 |
benrob0329 |
Never tried Signal, I've heard it's good, I've heard it's bad, I'm neutral |
15:53 |
benrob0329 |
Fixer: youtube-dl |
15:54 |
Megaf |
Here is youtube-dl and mpv couple for the win |
15:54 |
Megaf |
works for all major adult websites |
15:54 |
* Megaf |
LOLs |
15:55 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: *goes to high five* |
15:55 |
benrob0329 |
\>adult |
15:55 |
Megaf |
like, CNN, BBC, Business Insider |
15:55 |
benrob0329 |
\>nope tf out |
15:55 |
benrob0329 |
Mmmhhhmmm |
15:56 |
benrob0329 |
But yeah, MPV is da best |
15:56 |
Megaf |
17:00, will cook lunch, brb soon |
15:56 |
benrob0329 |
Especially if ffmpeg has SSL or http support, because then you can play YouTube links directly |
15:57 |
benrob0329 |
I have found though, that the more I use computers, the less software I use |
15:58 |
benrob0329 |
Like, I mostly use coreutuils for things I'd go find dedicated programs for |
15:58 |
Fixer |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xArtJY2zMrE |
15:58 |
benrob0329 |
Like ripping DVDs |
16:06 |
Megaf |
benrob0329, I use echo to write text files, cat to read them, curl and dd for a bunch of stuff |
16:07 |
Megaf |
and mpv for all multimedia |
16:08 |
Megaf |
just in college I need a true advanced text editor because I have to follow a lot of strict rules for the assignments |
16:11 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: i use vim for text editing, ranger if I need a full file manager, and I like to watch YouTube in the FrameBuffer :P |
16:12 |
rubenwardy |
Megaf, WhatsApp is better than Telegram |
16:12 |
rubenwardy |
it's encrypted by requirement, and allows typing on the computer |
16:13 |
rubenwardy |
although shame that you require the phone to come on, ideally you would be able to transfer the private key to the computer |
16:13 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: waaat? you can;t type in telegram? |
16:13 |
rubenwardy |
Telegram's Android app feels nicer to use though |
16:13 |
benrob0329 |
\>centralized, propriety chat services |
16:13 |
Fixer |
i only use skype very rarely |
16:14 |
rubenwardy |
benrob0329, so is Telegram |
16:14 |
rubenwardy |
its server is proprietary |
16:14 |
benrob0329 |
I left those behind a while ago, Matrix FTW! |
16:14 |
benrob0329 |
Yup |
16:14 |
Fixer |
now those skype users moved to whatsup too, but i don't want to install that crap too, keeping skype |
16:14 |
benrob0329 |
I left that behind too |
16:14 |
benrob0329 |
The only one i'm stuck with is Facebook for the time being |
16:14 |
rubenwardy |
most of my friends won't even leave messenger, let alone moving to a decentralised service |
16:14 |
rubenwardy |
Fixer, Skype sucks :O |
16:14 |
rubenwardy |
* :P |
16:14 |
Megaf |
Best thing about telegram is that the web version works stand alone |
16:15 |
rubenwardy |
slow and bloated |
16:15 |
Megaf |
no need for phone |
16:15 |
rubenwardy |
Megaf, no support for e2e encryption |
16:15 |
Megaf |
but anyway, for me Google Talk, when it was XMPP, was perfect |
16:15 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: yeah yeah, i want to ditch all of that crap to smth better, that also does not wants my phone number and data |
16:15 |
Megaf |
I used to use Pidgin and then Empathy for Google Talk and Facebook, using XMPP |
16:15 |
benrob0329 |
And I can probably bridge FB Messenger to Matrix if I wanted to |
16:15 |
Megaf |
supported file transfer, video calls and everything |
16:16 |
Megaf |
Hangouts was pretty amazing too |
16:16 |
benrob0329 |
Fixer: Matrix can use email or phone number, or nothing if you really want |
16:16 |
Megaf |
Hangouts could send SMS, call landlines and was compatible with XMPP too |
16:16 |
Megaf |
no they removed all nice features |
16:16 |
Megaf |
and we have stupid Allo and Duo |
16:16 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: also, after trying to install that thing called VIBER, i now understand how to remove tooth via anal |
16:16 |
benrob0329 |
Dunno the state of the pidgin plugin though |
16:17 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: never again |
16:17 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: install on PC |
16:17 |
rubenwardy |
I prefer not to have any more chat programs installed |
16:17 |
rubenwardy |
only IRC, and everything else in the browser |
16:18 |
Fixer |
i was forced to find android shitphone, install vibershit there and them some shitcodes, and then install that shit to PC and then code then shitithfuckme Win95 install is better than this |
16:18 |
Megaf |
rubenwardy, that's what I usually do... |
16:18 |
Megaf |
I have whatsapp, signal, telegram, skype and hangouts in the browser |
16:19 |
Megaf |
if I dont want to be bothered just close the browser and done |
16:19 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: that sentence hurt my soul |
16:19 |
Fixer |
i can't imagine why those morons did it that way, but apparently i need to enjoy this somehow or I'm dinosaur, when eating through your anal became the norm? |
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Fixer |
Megaf: lol |
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Fixer |
loooooool |
16:19 |
benrob0329 |
5 chat services, open all at once |
16:20 |
Fixer |
remembAR when it was EMAIL/ICQ only? |
16:20 |
benrob0329 |
I mean sure, I probably have an account on 20 of 'em but I only use one or two 99% of the time |
16:20 |
Fixer |
i'm keeping skype only, i will not install any more of this spying shit |
16:21 |
Fixer |
encryption is a joke, probably backdoored everywhere |
16:21 |
benrob0329 |
Fixer: Matrix is thr future, we will bridge ALL TBE THINGS |
16:21 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: even voice? and file transfer? |
16:21 |
Krock |
please bridge voice with IRC |
16:21 |
benrob0329 |
Its a thing |
16:22 |
benrob0329 |
Voice is WebRTC, so it's possible nowadays |
16:22 |
benrob0329 |
Jitsi meet links boi |
16:22 |
Fixer |
Krock: that will be shitshow |
16:23 |
benrob0329 |
And files post links to IRC |
16:23 |
benrob0329 |
So...yeah |
16:23 |
rubenwardy |
I'd imagine they'd just post a link to a livestream of the voice to IRC |
16:23 |
* Megaf |
remember back in the day, VoIP on KVIRC |
16:23 |
Megaf |
and avatars |
16:23 |
Megaf |
There's no need for anything else but IRC, really |
16:24 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: decentralization |
16:24 |
benrob0329 |
And modern features |
16:25 |
benrob0329 |
A strange psudo standard on top of IRC doesn't count |
16:25 |
rubenwardy |
IRC is decentralised, technically |
16:26 |
benrob0329 |
Ok, federation |
16:26 |
rubenwardy |
although you still need a network to manage and list connections |
16:26 |
rubenwardy |
iirc |
16:26 |
Megaf |
Even on the same network, different IRC server sill working on a split |
16:27 |
benrob0329 |
I can run my own matrix homeserver, and connect to rooms on matrix.org |
16:27 |
Megaf |
benrob0329, decentralization, that is not good |
16:27 |
Megaf |
I had a Diaspora account |
16:27 |
Megaf |
with friends and stuff |
16:27 |
Megaf |
and posts |
16:27 |
Megaf |
the pod where I had my account is gone |
16:27 |
Megaf |
with all my stuff |
16:27 |
Megaf |
and account |
16:27 |
benrob0329 |
Heck, at that point the room would go on even if matrix.org went down |
16:28 |
Megaf |
benrob0329, and XMPP is the true decentralization |
16:28 |
benrob0329 |
Just users on matrix.org would be offline |
16:28 |
Megaf |
I had my XMPP server, and all XMPP server by design can talk between each other and you can add friends from one network to another |
16:28 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: XMPP is a mess |
16:29 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: today's messanging industry is shit show, mess of proprietary not interconnected walled crap |
16:29 |
Megaf |
I had Google Talk friends added to my own server account |
16:29 |
Krock |
Related xkcd: https://xkcd.com/1782/ |
16:29 |
benrob0329 |
Group chats are still centralised, too |
16:29 |
Fixer |
can they just like agree on some standard and follow that? |
16:29 |
benrob0329 |
Almost no clients support voip |
16:29 |
benrob0329 |
Fixer: Matrix is bridging things and bringing walls down |
16:30 |
Megaf |
Krock, that guy could be me |
16:30 |
benrob0329 |
Its a standard, pretty simple one too |
16:30 |
Krock |
Megaf, or me.. |
16:30 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: most of it will probably die off with burst of current IT bubble |
16:30 |
Megaf |
benrob0329, what about discord? |
16:30 |
benrob0329 |
You can chat with curl if you really want |
16:30 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: not just messangers, but stuff like twitter |
16:31 |
Fixer |
sound cloud, etc |
16:31 |
Fixer |
and cloud in general |
16:31 |
benrob0329 |
It can be bridged, its being done though its not the most mature atm |
16:31 |
Fixer |
when prices will rise to skies |
16:31 |
Megaf |
benrob0329, by the way, Matrix needs lots of money, https://matrix.org |
16:31 |
Megaf |
if you like them so much, go there and give them money |
16:31 |
Fixer |
look at photocrapet, it wants 400 usd/year for allowing posting image thumbnails on other sites, thats laughablew |
16:32 |
Fixer |
or hosters that cost as much as 1TB HDD, but you will need to spend it each year |
16:32 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: I know, and they're getting lots of money |
16:32 |
Fixer |
cloud storage* |
16:33 |
benrob0329 |
There are a lot of things i'd like to donate to, Matrix is one of them |
16:34 |
Calinou |
<benrob0329> Calinou: LaTeX is very much not just for super complex stuff |
16:34 |
Calinou |
well, I've used LibreOffice math for high school :P |
16:34 |
Calinou |
it worked well enough, even though the markup ended up being really dirty |
16:34 |
benrob0329 |
Why lower yourself to dirty markup though? |
16:42 |
Calinou |
benrob0329: I didn't need more, and had to use LibreOffice anyway for assignmentrs |
16:42 |
Calinou |
-r |
16:49 |
Megaf |
I dont know what to do with my CV now, WPS basically destroyed compatibility with word |
16:54 |
Megaf |
lol, Google Docs opens it almost perfectly |
16:56 |
Fixer |
Megaf: do your CV in pdf |
17:00 |
Megaf |
The thing I submit is always PDF Fixer |
17:00 |
Megaf |
But I like being able to have it everywhere and edit it everywhere |
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Megaf |
I should just use git... |
17:43 |
Calinou |
https://github.com/hacksalot/HackMyResume |
17:43 |
Calinou |
this was nice, but it's not maintained anymore it seems |
17:43 |
Calinou |
and I found it too limited |
17:44 |
Megaf |
nice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ6vWW9BEKU |
17:46 |
benrob0329 |
Calinou: but LaTeX exports to almost every format known to man |
17:47 |
Calinou |
not a lot of CVs made with LaTeX look good |
17:47 |
Calinou |
(but it's probably due to LaTeX users being programmers for the most part, not artists or designers) |
17:48 |
benrob0329 |
https://youtu.be/VjsX4tznW40 |
17:48 |
benrob0329 |
Also, http://pandoc.org |
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Fixer |
problem? |
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Fixer |
holy ----, jt2 is expanded a looot with some amazing builds |