Time Nick Message 00:11 Natechip working hard gets you places 00:58 Megaf My GNOME 3 right now https://imgur.com/gallery/4uAWl 01:13 benrob0329 Megaf: interesting 01:13 Megaf I wanted a mix of macOS and Win10 actually 01:14 ThomasMonroe that would be interesting 01:16 benrob0329 My Bspwm atm (laptop config) 01:17 * benrob0329 uploaded an image: 1508721393.png (1659KB) 01:17 Megaf what kind of file manager is that? 01:19 benrob0329 ranger, it uses the same kind of layout as MacOS's finder 02:27 Natechip 02:37 srifqi hi! 02:40 Natechip hello 04:26 jas_ servers running: dcbl.duckdns.org:30000, 30002: dev, 30003: 0.4.16 (stock, default), 30005: 0.5.0 (stock, default). 11:24 IhrFussel I added genders to my modified mobs API ... and since animals always have a name tag in it I can simply display the gender after that name tag 11:27 Fuchs do you need mixed gender animals for breeding, then? 11:46 IhrFussel Yes, that way there won't be any awkward moments like "tom" and "thomas" having a baby 11:46 Fuchs might be tricky for animals that are hard to find / catch, but yes, makes sense 11:47 IhrFussel Well it will encourage my players to look further for animals =P 11:48 IhrFussel Or in other words look for the gender they want 12:01 Fuchs do they have different skins? 12:02 Fuchs like, in the real world animals tend to look different, male to female. At least some of them (less so the usual stuff, like canines and bunnies and horses) 12:16 jas_ lol? i guess, if you flip them upside down. 12:24 Megaf Hi all 12:24 jas_ greetings 12:24 Megaf Any news from Nateship? 12:25 jas_ what do you mean? 12:25 Megaf Early this morning he was venturing in installing Debian 12:25 Megaf I'd like to know how it went 12:26 jas_ i dunno, i just hit PgUp a bunch and didn't see anything, dood 12:26 jas_ doesn't look good 12:27 jas_ should just buy a pc with linux 12:28 Megaf I can't disagree 12:28 Megaf And back in the day there was plenty of machines with Unix OSes 12:29 jas_ it would come with games 12:30 Megaf AIX became OpenSource!? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Unix_history-simple.svg 12:31 Megaf Nome 12:31 Megaf Nope, not at all 12:32 * jas_ is compiling to test bindable dig/place 12:33 jas_ right now i got esdf movement, and txcvargb slots1-8 12:33 jas_ it's going to be weird going back to mouse2 to jum 12:33 jas_ p 12:36 Megaf hm, OpenServer is OpenSource now, I still dont quite get it the relation with AIX https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenServer 12:36 Jordach the line goes to FreeBSD 12:36 Megaf jas_, why you did that? 12:36 Jordach you silly Megaf 12:37 jas_ i can move and pick keys very easy 12:37 Megaf Jordach, Thanks! 12:37 jas_ and i always did right mouse button to jump in games 12:39 Megaf anyone into mouse/mice traps? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3rrdMKhUoI 12:46 jas_ WWAAAAHH hahahha *tears of joy* 12:46 jas_ it's so beautiful 12:46 jas_ ty .. samcaulfield 12:47 Fixer other type of mouse trap: https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b7/3d/51/b73d519955787de21f8bec22f70aa12f--mouse-traps-the-japanese.jpg 12:48 jas_ now that i'm right click jumping it feels more like quake, and i'm going to make some jump tracks 12:54 Fixer mouse traps are damn loud 14:10 Megaf guys, opinions on my current desktop please https://imgur.com/gallery/8WImJ 14:11 Raven262 I like it =) 14:11 Raven262 Mostly cause its clean. 14:12 Megaf I cant make my mind if I prefer Numix theme set or Breeze 14:12 Raven262 I chose breeze, I like it more for some reason :P 14:13 Megaf this is Numix https://imgur.com/a/4uAWl 14:13 Raven262 Though i like to recolor stuff, my Desktop is blue. 14:13 Calinou hi 14:13 Megaf Hi Calinou 14:13 Raven262 o/ Calinou 14:13 rubenwardy prefered yourprevious background, Megaf 14:13 rubenwardy I think you posted it earlier today 14:14 rubenwardy that one has too much noise 14:14 Calinou my Manjaro VM looks like this: https://media.hugo.pro/VirtualBox_2017-10-23_16-13-52.png 14:14 Calinou Raven262: nope, not yet 14:14 Megaf https://imgur.com/a/4uAWl rubenwardy this one 14:14 rubenwardy yeah, that's really nice 14:14 Megaf dat resolution Calinou 14:14 rubenwardy not keen on fixed launchers in task bar personally, but it does look so nice 14:15 Calinou yeah, with the Guest Additions, the VM can run at 2560×1440 goodness :) 14:15 Megaf Calinou, I like the icon theme 14:15 Calinou I left the default icons/theme from Manjaro KDE 14:15 Calinou I changed the font to Inter UI, with hinting disabled, though 14:15 Megaf rubenwardy, I do it mostly because aesthetics yes 14:15 Calinou and made the task bar use a classic "task bar" thing, rather than a Windows 7-like thing with only icons 14:16 Megaf since I start programs mostly from command line or "run" dialog 14:16 Megaf Calinou, that's not 7-like 14:16 Megaf macOS has been like that before Windows even existed 14:16 Calinou well, Windows 7 introduced it in the task bar 14:16 Calinou I always disable it :P 14:17 Calinou (and use compact taskbar) 14:17 Megaf if you look at my Windows 10 VM, you will see that I have it disabled to on the taskbar 14:17 Megaf I hate window grouping 14:18 Raven262 This is my desktop right now: https://i.imgur.com/whn0lzg.png 14:18 Megaf Raven262, very noisy :P 14:18 Raven262 But makes me creative :P 14:18 rubenwardy https://i.rubenwardy.com/prbyRGMOph.png 14:18 Megaf but I like the choice of theme and colours 14:18 Raven262 I hope. 14:19 rubenwardy oops 14:19 rubenwardy https://i.rubenwardy.com/AKUWNC9WM2.png 14:19 sfan5 why not 17.10 14:19 Megaf thumbs up for XFCE 14:20 Megaf double thumbs down for Ubuntu :P 14:20 rubenwardy I was using it all day yesterday, so haven't updated it yet 14:20 Raven262 I updated yesterday i think. 14:20 rubenwardy but will do when I have less coursework 14:21 rubenwardy xubuntu, not by canocial 14:21 rubenwardy I think 14:21 Megaf hm, let me try Numix icon theme and Breeze GTK theme 14:21 rubenwardy same PPAs though 14:21 rubenwardy just no adware 14:21 Aerozoic Anybody do anything creative with these little intel stickers after they unstick from ur laptop? 14:22 Megaf if intel I put in hte bin 14:22 Megaf you can sell them on ebay tho 14:22 * Raven262 hides his AMD PC. 14:22 * Megaf fan of AMD 14:23 Aerozoic I'm not a fan of intel either, lol. If i coulda got AMD i would have. 14:23 Megaf I'm buying either a ThreadRipper or Epyc when I get the money 14:23 Raven262 Nice, I bought it cause it was way cheaper than an Intel with the same specs :P 14:24 Megaf I am actually inclined to buy a dual CPU Epyc motherboard, with two Epyc CPUs, a Vega VGA, some PCI-E SSDs and put all in a suitcase 14:24 Raven262 I'm unsure though if the APU was a better choice than a real graphics card. 14:24 Raven262 lol 14:24 Megaf Making a portable workstation 14:25 Megaf Raven262, there are some Ryzen based APUs coming 14:25 Megaf those will be pretty good 14:25 Megaf Raven262, if you can get Quad Channel DDR4 memory then you will have pretty good performance for an integrated GPU 14:27 Megaf Arc-Darker GTK theme and Breeze icon theme, https://i.imgur.com/W7Sy5Tt.png 14:27 Megaf I think that's ideal 14:28 Raven262 I have concluded that it might be that time of the year when i change the theme of my PC :P 14:33 Calinou quad channel hardly matters 14:33 Calinou (the Ryzen APUs will have quad channel? that sounds surprising, too) 14:34 Calinou Raven262: IGP performance surprises me a lot sometimes (both positively and negatively) 14:35 Calinou I can get 90-120 FPS on DarkPlaces in 1920×1080, on an Intel HD 3000 (a very old IGP, on an i7-2600K) 14:35 Calinou that's the PC I gave to my mom :P 14:35 Calinou it's with low settings (but with r_shadows 2!), but still 14:35 Calinou meanwhile… the Intel HD 620 that's on an i7-7500U (my laptop) can't play Doom 3 with everything lowered well 14:35 Calinou (even with all shadows forced off) 14:36 Calinou Trackmania Nations Forever is only playable with lowest settings (and textures kept to High) 14:36 Calinou (playable is "never below 40 FPS" to me, on a laptop) 14:36 Megaf That's a nice browser https://i.imgur.com/VVd2hzL.png 14:36 * Wayward_One peeks in 14:36 Calinou Vivaldi? 14:37 Megaf quad channel hardly matters 14:37 Megaf disagree 14:37 Megaf Calinou> (the Ryzen APUs will have quad channel? that sounds surprising, too) 14:37 Megaf no idea 14:37 Megaf Calinou, yep 14:38 Megaf basically all amazing Opera engineers who created the true Opera, left Opera and made Vivaldi 14:38 rubenwardy someone using Vivaldi????? 14:38 rubenwardy :O 14:38 Megaf Vivaldi is the spiritual continuation of Opera 14:39 Megaf I still use Opera 12.16 now and then. Still there's nothing like it no a days 14:44 Raven262 Megaf, remember my desktop from a few minutes ago? This is what happened for a moment when i started TF2 and Alt+Tab to the desktop. Only for a moment but i was somehow able to capture it https://i.imgur.com/GFfr4Bv.png 14:47 Megaf Raven262, scary 14:48 Raven262 All the things that KDE has done to my desktop over the last few months were indeed scary Oo 14:48 Raven262 I have seen many things of this sort. 14:50 Megaf I has been said before, KDE is super buggy 14:50 Megaf GNOME 3 is way more polished 14:52 rdococ lol, this tablet lets me multitask. something apple didnt do. 14:57 Megaf Did anyone notice the new LibreOffice interface in my screenshot? 14:57 Megaf https://i.imgur.com/45gITEW.png 14:58 Megaf I don't like it much, but they are going to the right direction I think 14:58 benrob0329 Megaf: interesting 14:58 Calinou I didn't 14:58 Calinou it takes way too much vertical space :( 14:59 Calinou do developers understand it's precious in 2017? 14:59 Calinou 16:9 is the new 4:3 :) 14:59 benrob0329 Vivaldi is an interesting idea as well, though its neither free nor packaged by most distros 15:01 Megaf For some time I used PCLinuxOS, It was awesome, it supported my ATI VGA out of the box and came with Opera as default browser 15:01 Megaf what else could I ask for? It was perfect 15:01 Calinou more than 10 users? 15:01 Calinou :D 15:02 Megaf PCLinuxOS was larger back then 15:02 rdococ Lol 15:02 rdococ Lol 15:02 rdococ Oops, that sent twice 15:03 benrob0329 I quite like Void atm, its fairly minimal (actually I wish tbe base system had some more standard tools like gcc) but quite fast and flexible 15:03 rubenwardy Megaf, looks bugged 15:03 benrob0329 Not as high maintenance as Gentoo 15:08 Megaf rubenwardy, what looks bugged 15:08 Megaf ? 15:09 rubenwardy libre office 15:09 rubenwardy looks like it's broken 15:12 benrob0329 Plot twist: all word processors are broken 15:15 Megaf I like how we can make a good use of space on Vivaldi https://imgur.com/a/ytftV 15:16 Megaf rubenwardy, I agree, I just opened my CV that I started using word online to edit, then I used WPS, and now I opened it in LibreOffice, total mess in LibreOffice 15:16 Megaf beutiful on WPS 15:16 Megaf no idea how it looks in word 15:17 Megaf benrob0329, I totally agree 15:17 rubenwardy I use libreoffice, and it works fine for me 15:17 jas_ https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/781r96/4dwm_party_like_its_1997/ <-- megaf you go to this sub? 15:17 rubenwardy I don't care about word compatibility though 15:17 jas_ love it lol 15:19 jas_ twm: https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/783576/twm_minimal_simple_is_awesome/ <-- miss that one 15:19 benrob0329 LaTeX FTW :P 15:19 Calinou https://media.hugo.pro/firefox_2017-10-23_17-19-25.png 15:19 Calinou help Tiled reach its Patreon goal of $null! 15:19 Calinou ;) 15:19 benrob0329 (Tbh LaTeX is actually really cool, it almost makes me with I wrote more things) 15:19 Megaf jas_, hah, awesome 15:21 Megaf opened my CV on word online, a full page is just missing, and the color is like a carnival 15:21 benrob0329 jas_: its not tiling though :^) 15:21 Megaf compatibility between text editors is none 15:22 benrob0329 Megaf: text files work great 15:23 benrob0329 LaTeX too, and Markdown 15:23 Calinou Office 2016 is still terrible at opening ODF files 15:23 Calinou thanks Microsoft! 15:23 benrob0329 No problems with compatibility, Vim, Emacs, ee, Nano, Atom, Sublime 15:24 Megaf *compatibility between advanced text editors is none 15:24 Megaf *compatibility between advanced text editors is none 15:25 Megaf better? 15:25 Megaf pure text doesnt matter 15:25 Megaf but even so in pure text theres still problems, like end of line things and tabulation 15:25 benrob0329 I guarantee you that neither Emacs nor Vim are basic 15:25 Megaf tabs are replaced by spaces 15:26 Megaf benrob0329, basic I mean, text caracteres only, no tables, formating, fonts or anything else 15:26 benrob0329 Thats editor config, and who uses tabs outside of code? 15:26 Megaf I do... 15:26 Megaf tab is amazing to justify 15:26 Megaf you dont have a ruler in vim or emacs 15:27 Megaf again, they are basic because no formating at all 15:27 Megaf latex and markdown are not editors, 15:27 benrob0329 You would be amazed 15:28 benrob0329 Wrong, actually 15:28 Megaf and every site/software has its own flavour of markdown 15:28 benrob0329 Emacs for sure has formatting if configured 15:28 benrob0329 Vim can have formatting, but not as much because terminal 15:28 Megaf latex would be the only true standard. If only LibreOffice and Word supported it... 15:29 Megaf But again, we have ODT, ODF and OpenXML already, and again, every software interprets it in it's own way 15:29 benrob0329 LaTeX has some dedicated editors if you really dont want to learn it (which is the best way to write it) 15:29 Megaf like browsers do with HTML... 15:29 Megaf benrob0329, I dont want to lean a language to write text... 15:30 benrob0329 Ok, LaTeX and CommonMark are standard 15:30 Megaf a formating language that is 15:30 benrob0329 Megaf: you really don't know how LaTeX works, it really is nice for stuff 15:30 Megaf I want to make a nice CV, with cool formating, spaces and some tables. Bullet points and stuff 15:31 Megaf benrob0329, I know it doesnt work like "word" 15:31 benrob0329 https://youtu.be/lQ-UCI9nmis 15:32 Megaf and actually LibreOffice Writer is the only editor I found that is 100% compatible with my workflow 15:32 Megaf the only one I can select multiple words and line everywhere in the document at the same time by using the ctrl key, 15:34 Megaf Stupid presentation... 15:34 * Megaf has ADHD, I dont have brain for that shit 15:34 * Megaf hits l key like crazy, still couldnt skit the introduction 15:35 Calinou some guy at my university writes his notes using LaTeX 15:35 Calinou I admire him :P 15:35 Calinou he also uses Linux 15:35 Calinou (a few people use Linux, all with GNOME for some reason) 15:35 Megaf none in my class use Linux, just me, and some use macOS 15:36 Calinou :( 15:36 Calinou I used to be the only Linux user at my previous uni too 15:36 Calinou this university is Linux-friendly, but my laptop isn't 15:36 Megaf benrob0329, the bibliography/refference thing is cool 15:37 Calinou I use LibreOffice for note taking here :P 15:37 rubenwardy some guy at my university writes his notes using LaTeX 15:37 Calinou 15:37 rubenwardy heh 15:37 rubenwardy over half do that here 15:37 Calinou whoa 15:37 rubenwardy it's encouraged by the uni, there's even lectures in first year on it 15:37 Calinou honestly, the level at my university isn't too high 15:37 rubenwardy you don't lose marks though 15:37 rubenwardy +if you don't use it 15:37 Megaf Calinou, I'm using Google Docs 15:37 Megaf pretty happy with it 15:37 Calinou I don't know LaTeX anyway 15:38 Megaf it just gets complicated with math formulas 15:38 Calinou I don't have enough interest in learning it 15:38 Calinou (I don't need to write complex math formulas) 15:44 benrob0329 Calinou: LaTeX is very much not just for super complex stuff 15:44 Shara LaTeX is suggested for some modules on my course, but they expect you to teach yourself if you choose to use it. I found it easier to learn it than to worry about an alternative. 15:45 benrob0329 The point of it is that you write what the heck it is, and it figures out how the heck it'll look (in proper typeset form) 15:46 Shara In other words, I found LaTeX easier to learn than the effort of getting my scanner working (they accepted handwritten submissions) 15:48 benrob0329 It figures out table size, bibliographies, bullets, indentation, table of contents, page breaks, it'll format book chapters properly of you want, hyphenize words, etc, etc, etc 15:50 Megaf Changing topics, Skype in the near future will be just a web page in all platforms https://www.skype.com/en/insider/ 15:50 benrob0329 Skype can go die 15:50 Megaf but this is not too bad, at least it will look the same and have the same function in all platforms 15:50 Megaf benrob0329, easy today that when you dont need it 15:50 Megaf and Skype is less bad than WhatsApp, WhatsApp must die 15:51 benrob0329 Megaf: I left Skype, I dropped it purposefully 15:51 Megaf Everybody should use Signal for SMS and IM and Telegram for WhatsApp 15:51 benrob0329 Matrix FTW 15:51 benrob0329 No, not telegram 15:52 Fixer i've noticed that Calinou posts too much stuff like I was registered here for more than 1 year... 15:52 Fixer here is my turn 15:52 benrob0329 Telegram...centralised and half way open sourcing for a non encrypted service 15:52 benrob0329 No thanks 15:52 Fixer i'm using same download manager for 12+ years, downloaded 640GB with it and going strong 15:52 Fixer 43000 files 15:53 Fixer also, flashgot is life 15:53 benrob0329 Never tried Signal, I've heard it's good, I've heard it's bad, I'm neutral 15:53 benrob0329 Fixer: youtube-dl 15:54 Megaf Here is youtube-dl and mpv couple for the win 15:54 Megaf works for all major adult websites 15:54 * Megaf LOLs 15:55 benrob0329 Megaf: *goes to high five* 15:55 benrob0329 \>adult 15:55 Megaf like, CNN, BBC, Business Insider 15:55 benrob0329 \>nope tf out 15:55 benrob0329 Mmmhhhmmm 15:56 benrob0329 But yeah, MPV is da best 15:56 Megaf 17:00, will cook lunch, brb soon 15:56 benrob0329 Especially if ffmpeg has SSL or http support, because then you can play YouTube links directly 15:57 benrob0329 I have found though, that the more I use computers, the less software I use 15:58 benrob0329 Like, I mostly use coreutuils for things I'd go find dedicated programs for 15:58 Fixer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xArtJY2zMrE 15:58 benrob0329 Like ripping DVDs 16:06 Megaf benrob0329, I use echo to write text files, cat to read them, curl and dd for a bunch of stuff 16:07 Megaf and mpv for all multimedia 16:08 Megaf just in college I need a true advanced text editor because I have to follow a lot of strict rules for the assignments 16:11 benrob0329 Megaf: i use vim for text editing, ranger if I need a full file manager, and I like to watch YouTube in the FrameBuffer :P 16:12 rubenwardy Megaf, WhatsApp is better than Telegram 16:12 rubenwardy it's encrypted by requirement, and allows typing on the computer 16:13 rubenwardy although shame that you require the phone to come on, ideally you would be able to transfer the private key to the computer 16:13 Fixer rubenwardy: waaat? you can;t type in telegram? 16:13 rubenwardy Telegram's Android app feels nicer to use though 16:13 benrob0329 \>centralized, propriety chat services 16:13 Fixer i only use skype very rarely 16:14 rubenwardy benrob0329, so is Telegram 16:14 rubenwardy its server is proprietary 16:14 benrob0329 I left those behind a while ago, Matrix FTW! 16:14 benrob0329 Yup 16:14 Fixer now those skype users moved to whatsup too, but i don't want to install that crap too, keeping skype 16:14 benrob0329 I left that behind too 16:14 benrob0329 The only one i'm stuck with is Facebook for the time being 16:14 rubenwardy most of my friends won't even leave messenger, let alone moving to a decentralised service 16:14 rubenwardy Fixer, Skype sucks :O 16:14 rubenwardy * :P 16:14 Megaf Best thing about telegram is that the web version works stand alone 16:15 rubenwardy slow and bloated 16:15 Megaf no need for phone 16:15 rubenwardy Megaf, no support for e2e encryption 16:15 Megaf but anyway, for me Google Talk, when it was XMPP, was perfect 16:15 Fixer rubenwardy: yeah yeah, i want to ditch all of that crap to smth better, that also does not wants my phone number and data 16:15 Megaf I used to use Pidgin and then Empathy for Google Talk and Facebook, using XMPP 16:15 benrob0329 And I can probably bridge FB Messenger to Matrix if I wanted to 16:15 Megaf supported file transfer, video calls and everything 16:16 Megaf Hangouts was pretty amazing too 16:16 benrob0329 Fixer: Matrix can use email or phone number, or nothing if you really want 16:16 Megaf Hangouts could send SMS, call landlines and was compatible with XMPP too 16:16 Megaf no they removed all nice features 16:16 Megaf and we have stupid Allo and Duo 16:16 Fixer rubenwardy: also, after trying to install that thing called VIBER, i now understand how to remove tooth via anal 16:16 benrob0329 Dunno the state of the pidgin plugin though 16:17 Fixer rubenwardy: never again 16:17 Fixer rubenwardy: install on PC 16:17 rubenwardy I prefer not to have any more chat programs installed 16:17 rubenwardy only IRC, and everything else in the browser 16:18 Fixer i was forced to find android shitphone, install vibershit there and them some shitcodes, and then install that shit to PC and then code then shitithfuckme Win95 install is better than this 16:18 Megaf rubenwardy, that's what I usually do... 16:18 Megaf I have whatsapp, signal, telegram, skype and hangouts in the browser 16:19 Megaf if I dont want to be bothered just close the browser and done 16:19 benrob0329 Megaf: that sentence hurt my soul 16:19 Fixer i can't imagine why those morons did it that way, but apparently i need to enjoy this somehow or I'm dinosaur, when eating through your anal became the norm? 16:19 Fixer Megaf: lol 16:19 Fixer loooooool 16:19 benrob0329 5 chat services, open all at once 16:20 Fixer remembAR when it was EMAIL/ICQ only? 16:20 benrob0329 I mean sure, I probably have an account on 20 of 'em but I only use one or two 99% of the time 16:20 Fixer i'm keeping skype only, i will not install any more of this spying shit 16:21 Fixer encryption is a joke, probably backdoored everywhere 16:21 benrob0329 Fixer: Matrix is thr future, we will bridge ALL TBE THINGS 16:21 Fixer benrob0329: even voice? and file transfer? 16:21 Krock please bridge voice with IRC 16:21 benrob0329 Its a thing 16:22 benrob0329 Voice is WebRTC, so it's possible nowadays 16:22 benrob0329 Jitsi meet links boi 16:22 Fixer Krock: that will be shitshow 16:23 benrob0329 And files post links to IRC 16:23 benrob0329 So...yeah 16:23 rubenwardy I'd imagine they'd just post a link to a livestream of the voice to IRC 16:23 * Megaf remember back in the day, VoIP on KVIRC 16:23 Megaf and avatars 16:23 Megaf There's no need for anything else but IRC, really 16:24 benrob0329 Megaf: decentralization 16:24 benrob0329 And modern features 16:25 benrob0329 A strange psudo standard on top of IRC doesn't count 16:25 rubenwardy IRC is decentralised, technically 16:26 benrob0329 Ok, federation 16:26 rubenwardy although you still need a network to manage and list connections 16:26 rubenwardy iirc 16:26 Megaf Even on the same network, different IRC server sill working on a split 16:27 benrob0329 I can run my own matrix homeserver, and connect to rooms on matrix.org 16:27 Megaf benrob0329, decentralization, that is not good 16:27 Megaf I had a Diaspora account 16:27 Megaf with friends and stuff 16:27 Megaf and posts 16:27 Megaf the pod where I had my account is gone 16:27 Megaf with all my stuff 16:27 Megaf and account 16:27 benrob0329 Heck, at that point the room would go on even if matrix.org went down 16:28 Megaf benrob0329, and XMPP is the true decentralization 16:28 benrob0329 Just users on matrix.org would be offline 16:28 Megaf I had my XMPP server, and all XMPP server by design can talk between each other and you can add friends from one network to another 16:28 benrob0329 Megaf: XMPP is a mess 16:29 Fixer rubenwardy: today's messanging industry is shit show, mess of proprietary not interconnected walled crap 16:29 Megaf I had Google Talk friends added to my own server account 16:29 Krock Related xkcd: https://xkcd.com/1782/ 16:29 benrob0329 Group chats are still centralised, too 16:29 Fixer can they just like agree on some standard and follow that? 16:29 benrob0329 Almost no clients support voip 16:29 benrob0329 Fixer: Matrix is bridging things and bringing walls down 16:30 Megaf Krock, that guy could be me 16:30 benrob0329 Its a standard, pretty simple one too 16:30 Krock Megaf, or me.. 16:30 Fixer rubenwardy: most of it will probably die off with burst of current IT bubble 16:30 Megaf benrob0329, what about discord? 16:30 benrob0329 You can chat with curl if you really want 16:30 Fixer rubenwardy: not just messangers, but stuff like twitter 16:31 Fixer sound cloud, etc 16:31 Fixer and cloud in general 16:31 benrob0329 It can be bridged, its being done though its not the most mature atm 16:31 Fixer when prices will rise to skies 16:31 Megaf benrob0329, by the way, Matrix needs lots of money, https://matrix.org 16:31 Megaf if you like them so much, go there and give them money 16:31 Fixer look at photocrapet, it wants 400 usd/year for allowing posting image thumbnails on other sites, thats laughablew 16:32 Fixer or hosters that cost as much as 1TB HDD, but you will need to spend it each year 16:32 benrob0329 Megaf: I know, and they're getting lots of money 16:32 Fixer cloud storage* 16:33 benrob0329 There are a lot of things i'd like to donate to, Matrix is one of them 16:34 Calinou Calinou: LaTeX is very much not just for super complex stuff 16:34 Calinou well, I've used LibreOffice math for high school :P 16:34 Calinou it worked well enough, even though the markup ended up being really dirty 16:34 benrob0329 Why lower yourself to dirty markup though? 16:42 Calinou benrob0329: I didn't need more, and had to use LibreOffice anyway for assignmentrs 16:42 Calinou -r 16:49 Megaf I dont know what to do with my CV now, WPS basically destroyed compatibility with word 16:54 Megaf lol, Google Docs opens it almost perfectly 16:56 Fixer Megaf: do your CV in pdf 17:00 Megaf The thing I submit is always PDF Fixer 17:00 Megaf But I like being able to have it everywhere and edit it everywhere 17:05 Megaf I should just use git... 17:43 Calinou https://github.com/hacksalot/HackMyResume 17:43 Calinou this was nice, but it's not maintained anymore it seems 17:43 Calinou and I found it too limited 17:44 Megaf nice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ6vWW9BEKU 17:46 benrob0329 Calinou: but LaTeX exports to almost every format known to man 17:47 Calinou not a lot of CVs made with LaTeX look good 17:47 Calinou (but it's probably due to LaTeX users being programmers for the most part, not artists or designers) 17:48 benrob0329 https://youtu.be/VjsX4tznW40 17:48 benrob0329 Also, http://pandoc.org 20:17 Fixer "SmallJoker is working on a new one that uses raycast." (bows) 20:18 KaadmY https://twitter.com/Markymark665 23:06 Natechip Raven262 (~corvus@178-223-199-238.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) has joined 23:06 Natechip :D 23:07 Natechip Raven262 has quit (Client Quit) 23:07 Natechip D: 23:14 Fixer problem? 23:30 Fixer holy ----, jt2 is expanded a looot with some amazing builds