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* benrob0329 |
is happy that things work on his new Void Linux laptop install |
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benrob0329 |
Even OpenGL in the framebuffer :P |
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sofar |
so, I want to make a simple static webpage |
| 05:16 |
sofar |
but I don't want to spend more than 5 minutes making it |
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sofar |
and no, I don't want to sign up for an account or install some framework on my PC |
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sofar |
I'm just tempted to <html><head>, it seems faster than trying to learn another framework again |
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benrob0329 |
sofar: https://github.com/Calinou/beauty.css |
| 05:41 |
benrob0329 |
or if you want to go simpler than that, https://github.com/KeenRivals/bestmotherfucking.website |
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Raven262 |
Hi Calinou, yes. |
| 07:45 |
Raven262 |
Wait |
| 07:45 |
Raven262 |
That was a few hours ago |
| 07:46 |
Raven262 |
No matter, I'm here now :P |
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| 09:34 |
Calinou |
hi Raven262 :P |
| 09:34 |
Calinou |
I went to sleep, I wanted to continue Freedoom coop |
| 09:34 |
Raven262 |
:P |
| 09:34 |
Raven262 |
Ah |
| 09:34 |
Raven262 |
I was already asleep then |
| 09:34 |
Calinou |
just ping me when you want to continue |
| 09:34 |
Calinou |
maybe KaadmY could play too, although his ping will be high (he's in the US) |
| 09:41 |
Raven262 |
Calinou, I've been making a map for Hexen this last few weeks. I just started it and got some 1521 sectors from adding lots of details :D |
| 09:41 |
Calinou |
Raven262: I tried Hexen II yesterday (using uHexen2) |
| 09:41 |
Calinou |
I got stuck in the 2nd level, it's too mazey already :| |
| 09:43 |
Raven262 |
Hexen2 will give you hints, and if you are a normal person like me, you won't get them :P |
| 09:44 |
Raven262 |
I had to use a guide to get trough the game |
| 09:44 |
Raven262 |
Its seriously hard |
| 09:44 |
Raven262 |
Not only for the first time, you know |
| 09:44 |
Raven262 |
The puzzles change sometimes depending on which corridor you passed first. |
| 09:46 |
Raven262 |
I think i used this one https://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/39790-hexen-ii/faqs/47176 |
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Calinou |
Raven262: https://media.hugo.pro/Quake4_2017-09-25_12-56-27.png |
| 10:58 |
Calinou |
Quake 4 with maxed anti-aliasing, anisotropic filtering, disabled texture compression, and r_lightScale 4 |
| 10:58 |
Calinou |
however, I don't know how to remove the FPS cap (I made sure V-Sync is disabled) :P |
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Raven262 |
I haven't been playing Q4, though lisac finished the whole game. |
| 11:04 |
Raven262 |
I also didn't know that it has so good graphics when maxed out Oo |
| 11:09 |
Raven262 |
btw, Calinou, the start of my map right now https://i.imgur.com/kyvKvyO.jpg |
| 11:09 |
Calinou |
yeah, its graphics aren't so bad |
| 11:09 |
Calinou |
it was released 12 years ago :P |
| 11:09 |
Calinou |
Raven262: this looks pretty nice! |
| 11:10 |
Calinou |
I never used GZDoom Builder, I used SLADE a bit |
| 11:10 |
Raven262 |
Glad you like it, i did lose a few maps like this one in system reinstalls xD |
| 11:11 |
Raven262 |
In my opinion, Slade's map editor is not as good as GZDB |
| 11:11 |
Raven262 |
It also doesn't support advanced GZDoom features |
| 11:11 |
Raven262 |
Some of them that is |
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Jordach |
Fixer, don't go for nvidia |
| 13:17 |
Jordach |
my RX 480 from launch is about ~12% faster than when it launched |
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| 13:59 |
Fixer |
Jordach: funnily I see shittons of reports about GSOD on RX480 %) |
| 13:59 |
Fixer |
Calinou: bad news |
| 14:00 |
Fixer |
Calinou: even with limiter, during minecraft beta play I did alt-tab to gpu-z and got black screen, after that it shows cursor only with black screen on startup and hang, kek |
| 14:00 |
Fixer |
only safe mode works |
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| 14:04 |
Megaf |
So I finally got my replacement keyboard fort my macbook pro. Doesn't fit. https://www.laptopmarket.ie/image/cache/data/Keyboard/Macbook/us%20and%20uk%20eu%20layout-800x800.jpg |
| 14:04 |
sfan5 |
>mac |
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| 14:07 |
tenplus1 |
hi folks |
| 14:07 |
rubenwardy |
yo |
| 14:07 |
tenplus1 |
hi ruben |
| 14:07 |
Shara |
Hi all |
| 14:07 |
tenplus1 |
hi shara |
| 14:08 |
Shara |
Megaf: last time I tried to order a keyboard, they sent me german layout one instead |
| 14:08 |
Megaf |
Shara, it was my mistake this time |
| 14:08 |
tenplus1 |
hi Megaf |
| 14:08 |
Megaf |
I thought apple would be sensible and use the same key wholes, just different keys |
| 14:08 |
Shara |
It's happened twice actually, not my mistake either time. Order number and everything else matched to UK one... it's just not what they sent |
| 14:09 |
Megaf |
but they decided to change enter key shape and get rid of the right left key in the uk layout |
| 14:09 |
Megaf |
from that image we can see UK and Europe have the same frame |
| 14:09 |
Megaf |
stupid Americans, why everything have to be different for America? |
| 14:09 |
Shara |
Yes, but not same keys :) |
| 14:09 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 14:10 |
Megaf |
and hi tenplus1 |
| 14:10 |
rubenwardy |
http://ircv3.net/ O_o |
| 14:10 |
Shara |
I don't even notice the y/z switch between german and UK keyboard much, but the punctuation changes kill me :) |
| 14:11 |
CalebDavis |
hi ten |
| 14:11 |
tenplus1 |
hi caleb |
| 14:12 |
* Megaf |
does a /join #ircv3 |
| 14:13 |
* tenplus1 |
tries to rewrite api with no joy :( https://github.com/tenplus1/mobs_redo/blob/master/api_new.txt |
| 14:17 |
Megaf |
by the way, I did want the UK layout |
| 14:17 |
Megaf |
because I prefer the UK layout |
| 14:17 |
Megaf |
I thought it'd fit |
| 14:18 |
Jordach |
Fixer, >mfw RX 480 works for me |
| 14:18 |
Jordach |
i get them grey screens on arch with APUs |
| 14:18 |
Jordach |
fucking HP |
| 14:18 |
Jordach |
trash shittops |
| 14:18 |
Jordach |
oh you switched to radeon? GSOD |
| 14:18 |
Jordach |
reeeeeee |
| 14:18 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 14:18 |
tenplus1 |
hi Jordach |
| 14:18 |
Jordach |
in future i'm buying surface devices only |
| 14:18 |
Jordach |
and ONLY surfaces |
| 14:19 |
Jordach |
my gen 1 surface works perfectly fine even now |
| 14:19 |
Fixer |
Jordach: i've started having GSOD just recently, and display corruption, wonder what is fucked, gpu or psu or both |
| 14:19 |
Raven262 |
Hello everyone. |
| 14:19 |
Fixer |
Jordach: even shifted screen bug |
| 14:19 |
Jordach |
Fixer, i'd post you a GTX 750TI |
| 14:20 |
Jordach |
>default libraries in windows 7 (docs photos music and videos)( |
| 14:20 |
Jordach |
>technet says the same |
| 14:20 |
Jordach |
>answer is wrong |
| 14:20 |
Jordach |
:thinking: |
| 14:24 |
Jordach |
>a laptop CPU is the same processing power of a desktop |
| 14:24 |
Jordach |
>answer requires me to not check "a laptop CPU is not as powerful as a desktop" |
| 14:24 |
tenplus1 |
normally yes, but doesnt laptop have slower bus speeds to save power |
| 14:25 |
tenplus1 |
not as souped up |
| 14:25 |
Jordach |
tenplus1, laptops are generally clocked even slower and may have missing extensions |
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| 14:28 |
tenplus1 |
hi Grandolf |
| 14:28 |
Grandolf |
hi 11 :P |
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| 14:33 |
tenplus1 |
wb fixer |
| 14:42 |
tenplus1 |
https://i.imgur.com/Ca2iE9D.png ahhaa, love the nyan in teh background |
| 14:46 |
Krock |
needs more railways |
| 14:50 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
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| 15:00 |
benrob0329 |
Jordach: my laptop runs fine, even openGL in the framebuffer and WiFi with no issues :P |
| 15:00 |
tenplus1 |
hi benrob, what laptop you got ? |
| 15:01 |
benrob0329 |
rubenwardy: soo..ircv3 is basically Matrix? |
| 15:02 |
benrob0329 |
:P |
| 15:02 |
rubenwardy |
it's the next version of IRC so will probably work better |
| 15:02 |
rubenwardy |
because IRC has no reliability problems at all |
| 15:02 |
benrob0329 |
tenplus1: HP something something idr, I'll have to go look |
| 15:03 |
tenplus1 |
heh |
| 15:03 |
benrob0329 |
rubenwardy: unless you're on a phone |
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| 15:04 |
benrob0329 |
Matrix.org hasn't gone down in a while, and when it does its to update things |
| 15:04 |
benrob0329 |
And you could run you're own homeserver, since its federated |
| 15:04 |
benrob0329 |
*your |
| 15:06 |
benrob0329 |
Also, HTML based formatting is bae |
| 15:17 |
benrob0329 |
(Offtopic) https://youtu.be/c9Qbqocmeq4 |
| 15:17 |
benrob0329 |
Jordach: ^^ |
| 15:20 |
rdococ |
hj |
| 15:20 |
rdococ |
hm |
| 15:20 |
tenplus1 |
hi rdococ |
| 15:20 |
rdococ |
is there software I can install to prevent Microsoft from collecting information about computer usage? |
| 15:20 |
tenplus1 |
for win10 ? |
| 15:20 |
rdococ |
win8.1 |
| 15:21 |
tenplus1 |
https://www.ghacks.net/2017/02/11/blocking-telemetry-in-windows-7-and-8-1/ |
| 15:22 |
rubenwardy |
rdococ: yeah, http://tinyurl.com/yan9md2x |
| 15:22 |
rdococ |
wait, what the heck just opened that Microsoft tab saying "Microsoft Network Monitor"? |
| 15:23 |
rdococ |
rubenwardy, this is my parent's computer, I don't want to mess with it too much (even though she'd probably let me :P) |
| 15:24 |
tenplus1 |
if you wanna stop spying completely install Xubuntu |
| 15:24 |
rdococ |
anyway, when I get my computer back I plan on immediately installing a linux distribution anyway |
| 15:24 |
Megaf |
meh, disabling vsync and fps limiter makes my laptop able to fry an egg |
| 15:24 |
Megaf |
I will be selling my cooktop tomorrow, no need for it anymore |
| 15:24 |
Megaf |
lol |
| 15:24 |
rdococ |
lol |
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| 15:25 |
tenplus1 |
hi twoelk |
| 15:25 |
twoelk |
o/ |
| 15:26 |
benrob0329 |
rdococ: don't use Windows, that's how :P |
| 15:26 |
rdococ |
rubenwardy, this is my parent's computer, I don't want to mess with it too much (even though she'd probably let me :P) |
| 15:26 |
rdococ |
benrob0329* |
| 15:26 |
rubenwardy |
O_o |
| 15:26 |
benrob0329 |
Lol |
| 15:27 |
rdococ |
anyway, I like the idea of metaphorically poking a middle finger at Microsoft by using their crap without being spied on |
| 15:27 |
benrob0329 |
While still probably being spied on? |
| 15:27 |
tenplus1 |
you can get tools to disable much of the tracking, but... I wouldnt trust them not to re-enable it |
| 15:28 |
benrob0329 |
Plus, strange tools |
| 15:28 |
tenplus1 |
yup |
| 15:28 |
* benrob0329 |
is rather happy with Void Linux, at least atm |
| 15:29 |
twoelk |
rdococ head over to www.portableapps.com and built your own stuff on a portable device that can run when plugged into any windows computer leaving as little trace as possible |
| 15:29 |
benrob0329 |
I like Runit as my init system, simple and really friggen fast |
| 15:30 |
tenplus1 |
looks interesting |
| 15:30 |
benrob0329 |
They weren't joking when they put the run in runit |
| 15:30 |
benrob0329 |
I'll post a video of my laptop booting |
| 15:32 |
Fixer |
Jordach: you say AMD, but... my first ati card also kinda half-died of gpu/mem errors, this one has potential to be a second... |
| 15:32 |
Fixer |
I have spare ATI X800GTO card with even old school video out output. |
| 15:32 |
Fixer |
hope it works |
| 15:32 |
Fixer |
but first i need to try drivers thing |
| 15:33 |
twoelk |
I have several dif/me runs mt under a portableapps hood at work |
| 15:33 |
twoelk |
? |
| 15:33 |
rdococ |
lol, I have found myself in regedit.exe |
| 15:33 |
Fixer |
lololol |
| 15:33 |
tenplus1 |
*shudder* |
| 15:33 |
* twoelk |
runs mt under a portableapps hood at work |
| 15:34 |
Fixer |
someone suggest old method of cooking videocard in oven, thats too hardcore for me |
| 15:34 |
Fixer |
too spooky |
| 15:34 |
Krock |
twoelk, usually that's not necessary for a RUN_IN_PLACE build |
| 15:35 |
rdococ |
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\SQMClient\Windows, and I'm setting CEIPEnable to 0 |
| 15:35 |
rdococ |
from its original value of 1 |
| 15:35 |
twoelk |
Krock, I do take it a little further :-P |
| 15:35 |
benrob0329 |
rdococ: /me hides in his config files |
| 15:35 |
Krock |
but that only changes a bit of it, rdococ. |
| 15:36 |
rdococ |
meh. |
| 15:37 |
rdococ |
Krock: the customer experience thing was already off, it seems... idk why it was 1 then |
| 15:37 |
rdococ |
unless changing that dword did turn it off (or at least caused the control panel to display it as off) |
| 15:37 |
* Krock |
tries wine regedit.exe |
| 15:38 |
* tenplus1 |
got "Oddworld: Abes Oddyssey" free from steam, $0.00 :) works well in wine :D |
| 15:39 |
rdococ |
Krock, o_O |
| 15:39 |
Krock |
rdococ, there's actually a registry from Wine to make programs run properly |
| 15:39 |
rdococ |
Krock: I would have guessed so. |
| 15:39 |
Krock |
then why o_0 |
| 15:40 |
Krock |
s/0/O/ |
| 15:41 |
twoelk |
one could also try a portable or live version of reactos to bypass ms - providing the target software runs on it |
| 15:41 |
Krock |
reactos is the operating system around wine.. kina |
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| 15:44 |
twoelk |
not quite but they do share common code |
| 15:44 |
rdococ |
heh, maybe I should dualboot linux and reactos |
| 15:45 |
tenplus1 |
back laters |
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| 15:48 |
rdococ |
lol, let's tripleboot |
| 15:48 |
rdococ |
linux, reactos, and something else |
| 15:49 |
twoelk |
freedos? |
| 15:49 |
Krock |
BSD? |
| 15:49 |
twoelk |
lets raise TOS from the dead |
| 15:49 |
benrob0329 |
LibreBSD, they disliked OpenBSD's lack of hardware support and forked |
| 15:50 |
Krock |
what? TempleOS is dead? |
| 15:50 |
rdococ |
linux, reactos and OpenBSD :P |
| 15:50 |
twoelk |
is plan8 or was it 9 still alive? |
| 15:51 |
* Jordach |
cracks out the modtracker |
| 15:53 |
* rdococ |
gives Jordach an integer between 2 and 3 |
| 15:54 |
benrob0329 |
Jordach: OOOooo |
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* benrob0329 |
mentions mod music support in Minetest, then hides |
| 15:55 |
rdococ |
benrob0329: here comes the ghost! OOOOooooOOOOoooh! |
| 15:57 |
* Jordach |
sends commands to re-process the audio data into audacity |
| 15:57 |
Jordach |
there, output from modformat |
| 15:57 |
Jordach |
and time period correct 11k sampling |
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| 16:13 |
Fixer |
with driver uninstalled back to normal windows mode |
| 16:13 |
Fixer |
will try fresh install of older one |
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| 16:50 |
tenplus1 |
hi folks |
| 16:52 |
rdococ |
evaluating to eleven |
| 16:53 |
tenplus1 |
o/ |
| 16:57 |
Calinou |
heh, I was playing Unreal 1 on my ultrabook |
| 16:58 |
Calinou |
1920×1080, everything maxed, 4× MSAA, 16× AF, constant 60 FPS |
| 16:58 |
Krock |
hi tenplus1 |
| 16:58 |
Calinou |
(except when particles are spawned right in front of the player) |
| 16:58 |
tenplus1 |
hi krock |
| 16:58 |
tenplus1 |
so far away particles dont slow things down cal ? |
| 17:03 |
Calinou |
tenplus1: no, they don't, it's a fillrate limitation |
| 17:03 |
Calinou |
IGPs have low fillrates compared to dedicated GPUs |
| 17:03 |
tenplus1 |
ohhh |
| 17:04 |
shivajiva |
Hi tenplus |
| 17:05 |
tenplus1 |
hi shiva |
| 17:07 |
rdococ |
YaY |
| 17:08 |
rdococ |
EW EW EW, for rdococ.github.io I used a dejavu font (I think) and it displays here as comic sans |
| 17:08 |
tenplus1 |
lolol |
| 17:11 |
* rdococ |
tries out random tools on Firefox Nightly |
| 17:11 |
tenplus1 |
what's it up to now ? |
| 17:12 |
rdococ |
idk if these are new tools, or if they've been there for several versions, but there is a WebIDE |
| 17:13 |
rdococ |
I'll be honest, it looks like a web-based application creator |
| 17:13 |
rdococ |
which is probably what it is, lol |
| 17:14 |
Dargod |
hi all |
| 17:14 |
tenplus1 |
hi Dargod |
| 17:14 |
Dargod |
mt server 0.5.0 version is not compatible with previous versions of clients (0.4.x)? |
| 17:15 |
tenplus1 |
nope... player models dont work properly between them... |
| 17:15 |
rdococ |
(or maybe it's just to help test compatibility among devices, idk) |
| 17:16 |
Dargod |
ohh, it seems like you have to stay on older versions ( |
| 17:16 |
rdococ |
yes |
| 17:17 |
rdococ |
0.5.0 is incompatible with 0.4.x, though I wish they had a compatibility mode which used the old system |
| 17:17 |
tenplus1 |
for now... when 0.5.0 is released I'll be updating Xanadu and all my mods to comply to new standard... also urging players to do same |
| 17:17 |
rdococ |
yeah |
| 17:19 |
tenplus1 |
am hoping 0.5.0 will be the new base everone builds from |
| 17:21 |
rdococ |
hm, is there any good software for developing an online GUI? |
| 17:22 |
tenplus1 |
http://www.layoutit.com/ |
| 17:22 |
rdococ |
haha, layou tit |
| 17:23 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 17:24 |
rdococ |
layoutit seems really cool |
| 17:24 |
tenplus1 |
:) so long as it works... ehe |
| 17:26 |
rdococ |
yay for betas! |
| 17:27 |
rdococ |
I'm working on how to modify the contents of the navbar at the moment, hm |
| 17:30 |
tenplus1 |
only web editor I ever used was the old netscape one... :) |
| 17:31 |
rdococ |
yeah, but how would I edit the navbar? |
| 17:31 |
tenplus1 |
are you just inserting links ? |
| 17:35 |
twoelk |
hmmmm, the cat left the office - the mice consider doing some mt server hopping |
| 17:36 |
rdococ |
lol |
| 17:36 |
rdococ |
tenplus1, no, I'm not doing much of anything atm |
| 17:36 |
rdococ |
wait |
| 17:36 |
rdococ |
what do you mean? |
| 17:36 |
tenplus1 |
navigation bars, I was wondering if you are adding links to click... |
| 17:37 |
rdococ |
no, I'm using the navbar component |
| 17:37 |
tenplus1 |
oh |
| 17:37 |
rdococ |
(in layoutit, that is) |
| 17:37 |
rdococ |
editing the contents of links seems to be easy enough, I was talking about the navbar component |
| 17:38 |
paramat |
it's a good idea for servers to update to 0.5.0 because it's likely some unofficial mobile apps will not be updating to remain compatible (multicraft won't for example), so it may help reduce unofficial app players |
| 17:38 |
tenplus1 |
hi paramat, and yeah, agree'd |
| 17:38 |
rdococ |
true |
| 17:39 |
paramat |
also of course 0.5.0 allows you to enforce the CSM 'flavour' restrictions |
| 17:40 |
tenplus1 |
damn right, that's soooo getting disabled :P |
| 17:40 |
Shara |
paramat: the apps issue is a mixed one though. I'm likely to lose some long term quite good players by updating, as well as losing some of the bad ones... |
| 17:41 |
tenplus1 |
any android players can install the official mt 0.5.0 release, ios on the other hand will hve to wait for a build to become available |
| 17:41 |
Shara |
and the moment it does, we're back to where we started anyway |
| 17:41 |
rdococ |
my mother won't let me have a phone, because all she considers is calling |
| 17:42 |
rdococ |
hm, what android tablet do you suggest? |
| 17:43 |
paramat |
yes for players to be happy to transfer to the official app the controls need improving |
| 17:43 |
Shara |
I'm guessing no updates on that? |
| 17:44 |
paramat |
so assuming we manage that, updating to 0.5.0 could be a good opportunity to encourage players to switch to the official app |
| 17:44 |
Shara |
I'm all for getting them to switch as you know |
| 17:45 |
rdococ |
Shara, paramat: I may be getting an android tablet for my birthday, which one should I choose? |
| 17:45 |
tenplus1 |
whats the budget ? |
| 17:46 |
Shara |
rdococ: I barely use tablets ever, toerh than for reading. |
| 17:46 |
Shara |
So I can't really say |
| 17:46 |
paramat |
Shara, i added a post in the forum, emailed multicraft's admin, not much yet, will try to find a contributor willing to add joystick |
| 17:46 |
Shara |
other* |
| 17:46 |
Calinou |
tenplus1: heh, TrackMania Nations Forever runs ok on my laptop |
| 17:46 |
rdococ |
£100 would be okay, £500 maybe not... hm |
| 17:46 |
Calinou |
but with low shaders and shadows, else it's too slow |
| 17:46 |
Calinou |
(1080p, 4× MSAA, 16× AF as usual) |
| 17:46 |
rdococ |
tenplus1: between £100 and £250 |
| 17:46 |
tenplus1 |
amazon fire hd is pretty good and cheaper than 150 for a good spec |
| 17:47 |
Calinou |
this makes the grass and water pretty ugly, but it works :) |
| 17:47 |
Calinou |
(and doesn't look too jagged) |
| 17:47 |
paramat |
i'm clueless about tablets, my mobile phone is 9 years old and has physical buttons :) |
| 17:47 |
tenplus1 |
lol, my mobile is 60 quid and works fine :) |
| 17:47 |
Shara |
paramat: Yay, I'm not the only one! |
| 17:48 |
rdococ |
tenplus1, hm, which size do you suggest? |
| 17:48 |
tenplus1 |
as big as you can afford... screen size is important if you wanna cut out eye strain, especially when web browsing and gaming |
| 17:49 |
rdococ |
true, although are there any RAM differences? |
| 17:49 |
rdococ |
I'd like to maximize on RAM and total clock speed (clock speed per core x number of cores, I would guess). |
| 17:49 |
rdococ |
and I wouldn't mind sacrificing a little bit of screen size and disk space for that. |
| 17:49 |
tenplus1 |
99quid for 16gb kindle hd |
| 17:49 |
tenplus1 |
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/tablets-and-ereaders/tablets/amazon-fire-hd-8-tablet-with-alexa-2017-32-gb-black-10164192-pdt.html |
| 17:50 |
tenplus1 |
99 for 32gb black with alexa |
| 17:50 |
rdococ |
yes, but I'm guessing 16gb and 32gb refers to disk space |
| 17:51 |
tenplus1 |
yeah... they are mostly 8" in size tho |
| 17:51 |
rdococ |
but are there differences in RAM? |
| 17:51 |
rdococ |
2 GB of RAM doesn't seem very much. |
| 17:52 |
tenplus1 |
my laptop has 2gb and I can do everything I need :) |
| 17:52 |
rdococ |
hm, interesting |
| 17:52 |
tenplus1 |
all depends what you run |
| 17:52 |
rdococ |
Fire HD 8 only has 1.5 GB of RAM |
| 17:52 |
rdococ |
I plan to run the official Android client for Minetest, along with IRC |
| 17:52 |
rdococ |
s/IRC/an IRC client/ |
| 17:53 |
rdococ |
I've decided I want the fire HD 10, because it has basically more of everything :P |
| 17:54 |
tenplus1 |
http://www.ebuyer.com/771097-hannspad-poseidon-11-6-16gb-tablet-pc-sn12tp1b |
| 17:54 |
rdococ |
ooh, that's cheaper... |
| 17:54 |
tenplus1 |
look around and you'll find many brands with different specs :) |
| 17:54 |
tenplus1 |
google reviews to see what buyers think and you might find a gem |
| 17:55 |
rdococ |
well, I'm looking to max out on RAM, clock speed and number of cores for a better mobile gaming experience |
| 17:55 |
rdococ |
although gaming is probably better left to the PC, lol |
| 17:55 |
rdococ |
then again, I bet there's probably a tablet with better specs than these laptops |
| 17:55 |
tenplus1 |
true, but you can still get some good games on tablet |
| 17:56 |
tenplus1 |
hell my net-top is an atom 1.8 with nvidia mobile gfx, most phones are aleadt better than that :D |
| 17:56 |
rdococ |
the HD 10 seems to have specs very similar to my laptop (not my mother's, which is 0.2 GHz faster per core). |
| 17:57 |
rdococ |
and while it has a shorter battery life than 8, it has a longer battery life than 7 |
| 17:57 |
rdococ |
lol, is there a Fire HD 9? |
| 17:57 |
rdococ |
but I will keep looking around |
| 17:57 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 17:58 |
twoelk |
might be usefull if you can attach things to the tablet - like an external keyboard for example |
| 17:58 |
tenplus1 |
bluetooth keyuboard works fine, same with mouse |
| 17:58 |
rdococ |
huh, I've found something with 3 GB of RAM |
| 17:59 |
twoelk |
some cheap tablets hardly connect to anything except wifi |
| 17:59 |
rdococ |
but I'm not sure it's quadcore |
| 18:00 |
rdococ |
hm, how about the Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 8.0? |
| 18:00 |
rdococ |
it's quadcore with 3 GB of RAM |
| 18:00 |
tenplus1 |
not bad |
| 18:00 |
rdococ |
it gives multiple clock speeds, though, which is confusing |
| 18:00 |
rdococ |
I'm looking at https://www.android.com/intl/en_uk/tablets/pixel-c/ and comparing the tablets |
| 18:01 |
tenplus1 |
bottom numberis what it runs normally which should increase under use (when needed) to the higher number |
| 18:01 |
rdococ |
ahh |
| 18:01 |
rdococ |
1.3 to 1.9 then |
| 18:01 |
paramat |
(eww the idea of touching a screen with fingers, doesn't seem right) |
| 18:01 |
tenplus1 |
saves power |
| 18:01 |
rdococ |
wow, that's faster than my laptop |
| 18:01 |
rdococ |
my laptop, which is currently under repair somewhere, is 1.0 to 1.8 GHz per core out of 4 cores |
| 18:02 |
rdococ |
but it does have one more GB of RAM |
| 18:02 |
rdococ |
though I think the monitor's 8'' |
| 18:02 |
Shara |
I just can't imagine wanting to play MT on a tablet :P |
| 18:03 |
* tenplus1 |
prefers an actual laptop to a tablet... |
| 18:03 |
rdococ |
eh, true |
| 18:03 |
rdococ |
but I still want a tablet nevertheless, and one that's not a crapple tablet |
| 18:03 |
Calinou |
:D got ECWolf running on my phone |
| 18:03 |
tenplus1 |
Acer Aspire Cloudbook 12 has great battery life, 2gb memory, 30gb ssd, 14" screen and no moving parts |
| 18:03 |
rdococ |
ECWolf? |
| 18:03 |
Calinou |
constant 60 FPS, but only 640×400 |
| 18:03 |
Calinou |
rdococ: Wolfenstein 3D source port |
| 18:03 |
rdococ |
Calinou, ah |
| 18:03 |
rdococ |
tenplus1, don't the majority of tablets use an SSD? |
| 18:04 |
rdococ |
after all, I find it odd to think that a tablet could make HDD noises |
| 18:04 |
rdococ |
s/that a tablet could/of a tablet that does/ |
| 18:04 |
tenplus1 |
tablets tend to have built in slow memory storage... laptops use mmc or m2 |
| 18:04 |
Krock |
what kind of tablet doesn't use flash memory!? |
| 18:04 |
rdococ |
but then again, there's probably at least one |
| 18:04 |
* twoelk |
installed the expensive spider-app on the last tablet he had access to :-( |
| 18:04 |
rdococ |
spider-app?? |
| 18:05 |
Krock |
the windows game? |
| 18:05 |
twoelk |
wrecked the screen |
| 18:05 |
rdococ |
I can't believe, though, that I've seen the specs for a tablet faster than my laptop. |
| 18:05 |
rdococ |
actually, my laptop's quite slow, I can believe that :P |
| 18:06 |
rdococ |
also, the battery life is nuts |
| 18:06 |
rdococ |
holy nuts it's £400 |
| 18:06 |
rdococ |
and cheaper on amazon, lol |
| 18:06 |
rdococ |
£300 on amazon... hm |
| 18:07 |
rdococ |
wait, holy crap, if amazon is to be believed then I'm looking at the page for an octo-core tablet |
| 18:07 |
rdococ |
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-Octa-Core-Lollipop-Black/dp/B013C46IB0? |
| 18:08 |
tenplus1 |
ooh |
| 18:08 |
rdococ |
holy crud on a stick |
| 18:08 |
rdococ |
holy banana cheese chicken balls |
| 18:08 |
tenplus1 |
> |
| 18:08 |
rdococ |
an octa-core tablet |
| 18:08 |
tenplus1 |
? |
| 18:09 |
tenplus1 |
isnt it 4-core low speed, 4-core hi speed, 8 core total ? |
| 18:09 |
rdococ |
ah |
| 18:09 |
rdococ |
well, that's not bad either. |
| 18:10 |
rdococ |
I'm guessing here, but seeing as the low speed cores are probably 1.3GHz, and the high speed ones are likely to be 1.9GHz, it's still going to be much faster than my laptop - heck, maybe even my mother's |
| 18:10 |
tenplus1 |
sweet |
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| 18:13 |
tenplus1 |
wb fixer |
| 18:13 |
Fixer |
ty |
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| 18:14 |
tenplus1 |
hi lisac |
| 18:15 |
lisac |
hey tenplus1 |
| 18:15 |
rdococ |
hm, I'm also considering replacing the Android OS with a GNU/Linux distro |
| 18:15 |
sfan5 |
good luck with that on a tablet |
| 18:16 |
rdococ |
I don't need good luck, usually I stumble my way through ;) |
| 18:16 |
tenplus1 |
heh |
| 18:16 |
sfan5 |
rdococ: no, it's literally impossible to install gnu/linux on most tablets |
| 18:16 |
rdococ |
sfan5: why is that? |
| 18:17 |
sfan5 |
because tablets are not computers |
| 18:17 |
rdococ |
yes, I understand that tablets have a different architecture |
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| 18:17 |
tenplus1 |
hi sniper |
| 18:17 |
rdococ |
(although I don't get why they do, I mean, don't we have the technology to basically merge them now?) |
| 18:17 |
Megaf |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duyjer5SXbk |
| 18:17 |
Megaf |
:D |
| 18:18 |
sofar |
most commonly because the device vendors add firmware that prevents unauthorized operatings systems from booting |
| 18:18 |
rdococ |
it makes no sense to me to carry around a degenerate version of a computer when I could carry around an actual computer |
| 18:18 |
sfan5 |
no bios, no standardized bootloader, no standardized hardware interfaces |
| 18:18 |
sofar |
and they also don't release their drivers so linux doesn't even run |
| 18:18 |
tenplus1 |
agree'd... laptops are always better |
| 18:18 |
rdococ |
ah |
| 18:18 |
rdococ |
well, at least Android isn't iOS ;) |
| 18:19 |
rdococ |
and I believe it's open source |
| 18:19 |
sniper570 |
tenplus1: Yo mann! ಠ‿↼ |
| 18:19 |
tenplus1 |
http://www.ebuyer.com/744497-asus-transformer-book-t100ha-2-in-1-t100ha-fu011t |
| 18:19 |
Shara |
Hi sniper570 :) |
| 18:19 |
sniper570 |
Shara! (◠‿◠✿) |
| 18:19 |
twoelk |
does any gnu/linux have the required drivers for the exact touchscreen you target? |
| 18:21 |
rdococ |
well, it's a Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 |
| 18:22 |
sfan5 |
twoelk: because none of that is defined by a widely-used standard in the ARM world, chances are linux won't even run without patches |
| 18:22 |
rdococ |
is there even a non-ARM tablet? |
| 18:23 |
tenplus1 |
ubuntu runs on most arm boards, just needs tinkerng |
| 18:23 |
sfan5 |
non-ARM tablets exist yes |
| 18:23 |
twoelk |
as in: it clutters when you use it? |
| 18:23 |
sfan5 |
tenplus1: of course it does, because someone else did the porting work beforehand |
| 18:23 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 18:23 |
sfan5 |
you can't just take some sort of generic ubuntu image and install it on an ARM device |
| 18:24 |
twoelk |
you probably can - if you need a brick ;-P |
| 18:25 |
rdococ |
lol |
| 18:34 |
tenplus1 |
creative leak >>?? |
| 18:35 |
Krock |
tenplus1, don't worry. It's patched in a recent MTG/creative version |
| 18:35 |
tenplus1 |
*phew* |
| 18:36 |
Krock |
CWz, affects servers with a 0.4.16 or older creative mod which origins in MTG |
| 18:36 |
CWz |
is 0.4.17 okay? |
| 18:37 |
tenplus1 |
wait, is there a 0.4.17 ? |
| 18:37 |
paramat |
only in name |
| 18:38 |
tenplus1 |
I thought next release was 0.5.0 |
| 18:38 |
CWz |
question is is the latest minetest game compatible with 0.4.16 |
| 18:38 |
paramat |
looks like we might release a 0.4 bugfix version soon |
| 18:39 |
paramat |
CWz not with 0.4.16 stable engine no |
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| 18:39 |
tenplus1 |
hi nrz |
| 18:39 |
paramat |
due to player vertical offset and maybe more |
| 18:40 |
paramat |
you often need to use the exact corresponding version of MTG, the 2 are closely synced |
| 18:41 |
* CWz |
wonder why unified inventory hasn't been included as the default inventory |
| 18:41 |
paramat |
MT engine has hit 7000 commits |
| 18:41 |
CWz |
good |
| 18:41 |
CWz |
next we must get 9001 |
| 18:42 |
tenplus1 |
no way CWz, unified inventory is too heavy |
| 18:42 |
CWz |
Really? |
| 18:43 |
tenplus1 |
prefer sfinv or even inventory plus |
| 18:43 |
CWz |
never had issue with heaviness with UI |
| 18:43 |
tenplus1 |
I feel it here... my net-top isnt too powerful... |
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| 18:47 |
Shara |
I still favour UI over any of the others |
| 18:47 |
Hijiri |
I prefer sfinv for the tabs |
| 18:48 |
tenplus1 |
hi Hijiri |
| 18:48 |
Shara |
Hi Hijiri |
| 18:48 |
Hijiri |
hi eleven, shara |
| 18:48 |
Shara |
sfinv feels like it could get there but it's just... not yet. At least not last time I tried looking at it |
| 18:49 |
Shara |
not enough things per page for servers with lots of items |
| 18:52 |
tenplus1 |
would be nice if we could merge a crafting guide in with the creative list |
| 18:52 |
* twoelk |
muses if bookmarks, favorites or even creating own categories in an creative inventory or crafting guide would be possable ingame |
| 18:53 |
Shara |
Yes, actually having an integrated crafting guide is nice. |
| 18:58 |
tenplus1 |
just gotta convert bags and skins mod to use sfinv |
| 18:58 |
tenplus1 |
maybe a good homepos button as well |
| 18:59 |
twoelk |
switching between bags could be easier |
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| 19:01 |
tenplus1 |
what sounds better, having a tab in inventory to switch between skins, or having player craft a wardrobe block to do same ? |
| 19:03 |
Dargod |
tab better |
| 19:03 |
tenplus1 |
:) thx |
| 19:04 |
Shara |
Tab any day |
| 19:04 |
Dargod |
I have long dreamed of such a tab for simple_skins |
| 19:04 |
tenplus1 |
same here... it's trying to make one that still has proper transparency for viewing skin changes... |
| 19:04 |
tenplus1 |
that's the issue |
| 19:05 |
tenplus1 |
might work on it tomorrow... was trying to redo mobs api.txt file today and messed it up :P ehehehe |
| 19:06 |
tenplus1 |
does this read any better: https://github.com/tenplus1/mobs_redo/blob/master/api_new.txt |
| 19:07 |
Krock |
nice |
| 19:08 |
Fixer |
installed ATI X800GTO, seems to work |
| 19:09 |
Fixer |
my ATI HD6870 very probably dead, needs repair/opening |
| 19:09 |
tenplus1 |
drivers working ok ? |
| 19:09 |
Fixer |
should, kinda |
| 19:11 |
Fixer |
OGL 1.1, fuuuck |
| 19:11 |
tenplus1 |
what ? 1.1... how old is the gfx cart ? |
| 19:11 |
tenplus1 |
*card |
| 19:12 |
Krock |
most likely broken driver or hardware |
| 19:12 |
Fixer |
thats ms driver |
| 19:12 |
tenplus1 |
what Os you running it on ? |
| 19:12 |
Fixer |
it is dx9.0b/opengl2.0 card |
| 19:12 |
Krock |
ms driver explains it |
| 19:13 |
Dargod |
tenplus1, I think it's better to implement thumbnails of skins instead of transparency |
| 19:13 |
tenplus1 |
if you boot from linux flash drive using 4.13 kernel check what ogl you get then |
| 19:13 |
Fixer |
tenplus1: dl vista driver for it (on w7) |
| 19:13 |
tenplus1 |
nope... the whole reason for simple skins was a list of skins... I didnt like the thumbs for each skin, so wasteful |
| 19:14 |
Fixer |
need to check few SATA cables, feels slow as fuck |
| 19:14 |
Shara |
Wasteful or not, thumbnails are much much more convenient |
| 19:14 |
Krock |
MayÍŸbeÍœ Ì›itÌ¡'s ÍslowÍ WÍ¢inÍdÌ¡oÍws |
| 19:15 |
tenplus1 |
more visual yes, but wasteful in files... I like to lighten the load on clients |
| 19:16 |
Fixer |
installing |
| 19:16 |
Shara |
not just more visual, more convenient outright |
| 19:16 |
Fixer |
poster for s.t.a.l.k.e.r |
| 19:16 |
Fixer |
feels old |
| 19:16 |
Dargod |
tenplus1, maybe use raws of skins? but only front part |
| 19:16 |
Fixer |
2005 redistr... |
| 19:17 |
tenplus1 |
that would be a lot of editing and resizing... it annoyed me the 1st time around when I redid zeg's skin mod, that's why simple skins was born |
| 19:17 |
Shara |
Ten, it's about not needing to select every single skin on the list to know what they are. I never have the patience for it |
| 19:18 |
Fixer |
new ATI HD5970... |
| 19:18 |
Fixer |
such new |
| 19:18 |
tenplus1 |
once you find one you like it tends to be over and done with... unless you chose a personal skin which is set as custom to player |
| 19:18 |
paramat |
such low res preview images will be very small files anyway |
| 19:18 |
Fixer |
Krock: it has composite output I believe o_o |
| 19:18 |
Shara |
Even doing it once per server is annoying. |
| 19:19 |
Fixer |
Krock: i can finally record videos to my VCR |
| 19:19 |
Fixer |
probably |
| 19:19 |
Shara |
These days I rarely bother unless the admin will just add my custom one |
| 19:19 |
Shara |
So I get stuck looking like a man :) |
| 19:19 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 19:19 |
Fixer |
restart |
| 19:19 |
Shara |
One that often seems to have a dirty face for some reasons |
| 19:19 |
tenplus1 |
is there any way to insert an entity into an inventory ? for preview purposes ? |
| 19:19 |
* Shara |
hates the default skin |
| 19:20 |
benrob0329 |
Some skin mods (specifically the ones that sync with the skin database) have previews |
| 19:20 |
benrob0329 |
We just dont have a nice way of updating those with a media server |
| 19:20 |
tenplus1 |
which sucks... |
| 19:20 |
Shara |
The one I use on RC has nice previews. I've forgotten which it even was though, and it was horrible in it's default form too |
| 19:21 |
Shara |
its* |
| 19:21 |
Shara |
Plus I think that only works in UI |
| 19:22 |
benrob0329 |
We really need a custom media server which supports live updates |
| 19:22 |
Krock |
Fixer, heh, nice :) |
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| 19:23 |
tenplus1 |
hi thomas |
| 19:24 |
Shara |
benrob0329: you mean to let players just add whatever skins they like? |
| 19:25 |
twoelk |
ever seen the skin chooser on JT2 ? |
| 19:25 |
Shara |
Not sure. It's just I'd worry what certain players would upload... |
| 19:25 |
ThomasMonroe |
hey ten |
| 19:25 |
benrob0329 |
Shara: no, just one that can sync on-demand |
| 19:26 |
tenplus1 |
agree'd, which is why we have a set list of 75 skins and the ability to add custom skins if veto'd by admin |
| 19:26 |
benrob0329 |
Without restarting everything |
| 19:26 |
* twoelk |
wishes sorcerykid would publish more code |
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| 19:26 |
Shara |
benrob0329: To be honest, if giving players a decent selection anyway, I don't really see the need |
| 19:27 |
tenplus1 |
and most of the time you dont even see the skin you've chosed because of 3d_armor |
| 19:28 |
benrob0329 |
Shara: lets say that another player adds a skin (even if it is vetted) do you want to have to restart the server? |
| 19:28 |
benrob0329 |
Or would you rather people just have to rejoin to see it, |
| 19:28 |
Shara |
benrob0329: I simply don't care to let a player add a skin |
| 19:28 |
benrob0329 |
What if you add a skin? |
| 19:28 |
twoelk |
hehe, we could use some clothes that go over the armor |
| 19:28 |
Shara |
I simply don't care enough about skins or add new ones often enough to worry about whether I need to restart |
| 19:28 |
benrob0329 |
What if literally anything in the media changes |
| 19:29 |
Shara |
Usually if I am changing media, it means I just changed code as well |
| 19:29 |
Shara |
I don't generally change textures unless something actually breaks |
| 19:30 |
Fixer |
OpenGL 2.1 |
| 19:30 |
tenplus1 |
getting better : |
| 19:31 |
Fixer |
very good fps in minetest |
| 19:33 |
tenplus1 |
kewl |
| 19:35 |
tenplus1 |
I do like the idea of player clothing as well as armor, then they can dress to suit themselves... maybe have different heads only since that's what you see most of a player |
| 19:36 |
Fixer |
40 fps in mc beta 1.7.3 |
| 19:36 |
Fixer |
this is slooow |
| 19:36 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 19:36 |
Fixer |
with hd6870 that will smth like 120+ |
| 19:37 |
twoelk |
maybe some sort of heraldic mod might be useful |
| 19:37 |
benrob0329 |
But the question is, can Minetest run in the framebuffer? |
| 19:37 |
twoelk |
it could add motives to shields, armor, flags whatever |
| 19:37 |
tenplus1 |
huh? |
| 19:38 |
benrob0329 |
I mean, the FB has OpenGL support, and there is a mouse server you can start |
| 19:39 |
benrob0329 |
I think its called gmp |
| 19:39 |
Fixer |
release date: 2004 |
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Fixer |
r e t r o |
| 19:39 |
tenplus1 |
I wonder if mt would run any faster using wayland instead of xorg |
| 19:39 |
tenplus1 |
hi caleb |
| 19:39 |
CalebDavis |
thx ten |
| 19:41 |
benrob0329 |
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPM_(software) |
| 19:41 |
Shara |
twoelk: I'm sure I saw a mod that already does that |
| 19:42 |
Krock |
benrob0329, gmp is the hashing library we use in Minetest |
| 19:44 |
Grandolf |
hi |
| 19:44 |
tenplus1 |
o/ |
| 19:44 |
Shara |
Hi Grandolf |
| 19:44 |
Grandolf |
https://pastebin.com/f3DPhA3d this is the codeblock to a node that should remove the item you punch with and give you an item in return |
| 19:45 |
Grandolf |
the issue is, it isnt takeing the item |
| 19:45 |
Krock |
free items! isn't that great? |
| 19:46 |
Grandolf |
the sound is playing, the chat message is sending, and the item is dropping |
| 19:46 |
twoelk |
I think my nephew showed me a mod in minecraft once where he proudly presented the patern he had designed ingame and had applied it to all his flags, armor and placable shields |
| 19:46 |
Krock |
apart from that, there's a facedir to dir function |
| 19:47 |
Krock |
Grandolf, what if you modify the "main" inventory of the player, with the wielded index? |
| 19:47 |
Grandolf |
not sure how to, i copyed this code from homedecor soda machine :P |
| 19:47 |
tenplus1 |
Grandolf: check this: https://github.com/tenplus1/mob_horse/blob/master/init.lua#L118 |
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benrob0329 |
Krock: its called GPM, General Purpose Mouse |
| 19:48 |
benrob0329 |
And its used to provide mouse support in the virtual console |
| 19:49 |
tenplus1 |
this is how I take saddles from player when riding horses |
| 19:49 |
Grandolf |
ty |
| 19:49 |
Krock |
Grandolf, setWieldedItem in C++ should do its job just fine. Now it could be an issue with take_item |
| 19:50 |
tenplus1 |
take_item(1) |
| 19:50 |
Amaz |
Grandolf: You need to add the line "puncher:set_wielded_item(wielditem)" at line 15 |
| 19:51 |
tenplus1 |
hi amaz |
| 19:51 |
Amaz |
Oh |
| 19:51 |
Krock |
tenplus1, it defaults to 1 if no argument is given |
| 19:51 |
Amaz |
You do that |
| 19:51 |
Amaz |
Hi ten :) |
| 19:51 |
tenplus1 |
so long as you return itemstack it should update items taken |
| 20:01 |
Amaz |
Grandolf: Don't know if you've figured it out, but this code seems to work: https://pastebin.com/uVxbXmXc |
| 20:02 |
tenplus1 |
ehe,w as missing return itemstack :D |
| 20:02 |
Amaz |
I don't know why your code didn't work... |
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* Jordach |
screams |
| 20:03 |
Jordach |
>uninstalled fucking onedrive months ago |
| 20:03 |
Amaz |
ten, but it used clicker:set_wielded_item(), which should, in theory, negate the need for return itemstack... |
| 20:03 |
Jordach |
>onedrive is somehow /Documents/ library |
| 20:03 |
Jordach |
hello GPM |
| 20:03 |
tenplus1 |
you gotta return itemstack for that one item take to take effect |
| 20:03 |
tenplus1 |
or update it manually |
| 20:05 |
Amaz |
Ahhh |
| 20:05 |
tenplus1 |
:) |
| 20:05 |
Grandolf |
ty |
| 20:05 |
Amaz |
np :) |
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tenplus1 |
wb Jordach |
| 20:13 |
Jordach |
>regedits onedrive to OBLIVION |
| 20:13 |
Jordach |
including modifying userspace |
| 20:13 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe... wouldnt trust microsoft with my files |
| 20:14 |
benrob0329 |
I wouldn't trust Microsoft with my hardware either, oh wait I don't |
| 20:14 |
Jordach |
it mirrored 15GB of already existing files to make it use 30GB |
| 20:14 |
Jordach |
wat |
| 20:14 |
Jordach |
wat |
| 20:14 |
Jordach |
wat |
| 20:15 |
tenplus1 |
? |
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Jordach |
onedrive instead of symlinking |
| 20:15 |
Jordach |
it copied them instead |
| 20:15 |
Jordach |
even though mklink /j exists |
| 20:15 |
Jordach |
since NT4 |
| 20:16 |
benrob0329 |
Windows supports symlinking (of some sort) now? |
| 20:16 |
Jordach |
has since 2000 |
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Jordach |
and by extension ME |
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benrob0329 |
Dang, its finally becoming a modern Operating System |
| 20:16 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 20:16 |
Jordach |
benrob0329, it has been since 2000 lmao |
| 20:16 |
Jordach |
it's the 16bit era to blame for the shortfalls |
| 20:17 |
Jordach |
since they ended up being standard |
| 20:17 |
benrob0329 |
Jordach: We've had workspaces since the 90s, and your just now getting them lmao |
| 20:17 |
Jordach |
if only OS/2 became standard |
| 20:17 |
Jordach |
IBM pls |
| 20:17 |
tenplus1 |
running bbLean on WinXP gave me workspaces to play with... |
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tenplus1 |
hi miner |
| 20:18 |
benrob0329 |
If only PISOX became standard..oh wait |
| 20:19 |
Miner_48er |
hi |
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tenplus1 |
wb |
| 20:23 |
Jordach |
https://youtu.be/z7GlUHzlWrc beep boop beep boop |
| 20:24 |
Jordach |
nerzhul, sorry for all the shit i give you :) |
| 20:24 |
tenplus1 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5293 |
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Fixer |
it feels like mc is more GPU dependant and minetest is CPU one |
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tenplus1 |
yeah... if only we could get minetestserver to use gpu for calc |
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tenplus1 |
nite folks... |
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| 20:40 |
benrob0329 |
Windows: Haha, you can never replace me! |
| 20:40 |
benrob0329 |
*nix: You Underestimate My Power |
| 20:44 |
Jordach |
benrob0329, but Nix has no high ground in business |
| 20:45 |
Jordach |
benrob0329, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=13392&p=295207#p295207 |
| 20:54 |
benrob0329 |
Jordach: yes we do, we're on all your servers |
| 20:54 |
benrob0329 |
IoT devices |
| 20:54 |
Jordach |
*installs Win CE |
| 20:55 |
benrob0329 |
Windows may have the desktop market, but Nix has most everything else |
| 20:55 |
benrob0329 |
Phones, Servers, IoT |
| 20:56 |
benrob0329 |
With our share on desktop slowly growing |
| 20:58 |
Jordach |
>IoT |
| 20:58 |
Jordach |
you mean overpriced tat that's a bitcoin miner |
| 20:59 |
benrob0329 |
Lol, asking if my old avatar is CC |
| 20:59 |
Jordach |
benrob0329, click the image and look at the corner |
| 20:59 |
benrob0329 |
Jordach: not as overpriced as Mac though XD |
| 20:59 |
Jordach |
benrob0329, but buying a mac is actually sensible |
| 20:59 |
garywhite |
Nix? |
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nerzhul |
Jordach, ? |
| 21:00 |
garywhite |
Nix = Linux? |
| 21:00 |
Jordach |
nerzhul, for all the complaints i give, thank you for your work |
| 21:00 |
benrob0329 |
*nix, Unix-Like, Linux BSD etc |
| 21:00 |
garywhite |
oh |
| 21:00 |
nerzhul |
Jordach, i think i didn't read them, it's fine then :p |
| 21:00 |
Jordach |
nerzhul, i complain because i care |
| 21:00 |
benrob0329 |
Jordach: Apple can't even get proper OpenGL drivers |
| 21:01 |
Jordach |
benrob0329, OpenGL is old shit |
| 21:01 |
Jordach |
go write a vulkan driver |
| 21:01 |
benrob0329 |
They exist, but not on Mac :^) |
| 21:01 |
benrob0329 |
Apple is pushing Metal, and no one cares lol |
| 21:02 |
garywhite |
Only reason Nix has a hold on mobile is cause of Android, otherwise Windows & iOS would be dominant |
| 21:02 |
Jordach |
benrob0329, and with apple you get fucking privacy |
| 21:02 |
benrob0329 |
garywhite: iOS is based on Mac |
| 21:02 |
benrob0329 |
Mac is an official Unix |
| 21:03 |
garywhite |
ik |
| 21:03 |
benrob0329 |
So we still have the mobile market |
| 21:03 |
benrob0329 |
Even without Android, which is a silly thing to say because we do have Android |
| 21:04 |
benrob0329 |
Jordach: do you though? How can you be sure if you can't know what goes on inside? |
| 21:04 |
Jordach |
benrob0329, they've refused the US government |
| 21:04 |
Jordach |
google and other android devs drop their trousers |
| 21:05 |
benrob0329 |
For a publicity stunt, yes they did |
| 21:05 |
benrob0329 |
And it was broken anyways |
| 21:05 |
benrob0329 |
Jordach: Google is shite, I wont deny that |
| 21:05 |
Jordach |
benrob0329, and there's no other options |
| 21:05 |
benrob0329 |
But iOS is locked down beyond reason, and I dont like that either |
| 21:05 |
Jordach |
other than Apple |
| 21:06 |
benrob0329 |
In reality, I should make my own phone and sell it |
| 21:06 |
* Jordach |
looks at Canonical and Mozilla |
| 21:06 |
benrob0329 |
Base it off of some custom DE and make a lot of money doing it right |
| 21:07 |
benrob0329 |
But I probably won't, because why would I do something smart like that, |
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benrob0329 |
Hell, you don't even need Xorg if its all custom Apps |
| 21:08 |
benrob0329 |
Use proper FrameBuffer drivers and you have full OpenGL support |
| 21:11 |
garywhite |
Firefox OS FTW |
| 21:11 |
Jordach |
>HTMLag |
| 21:12 |
Jordach |
my snapdragon phone can't even handle modern bullshit |
| 21:12 |
benrob0329 |
Jordach: https://bestmotherfucking.website |
| 21:12 |
Jordach |
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 21:12 |
benrob0329 |
This is as modern as it gets |
| 21:14 |
benrob0329 |
The web is largely over-engineered imo, a blog or the like shouldnt slow down my phone, which isnt that old, to a crawl |
| 21:15 |
benrob0329 |
Heck, github's code preview will do that on large files |
| 21:15 |
Jordach |
JS is fucking trash and shouldn't be used |
| 21:16 |
Jordach |
PHP is stable as anything now |
| 21:16 |
benrob0329 |
PHP is worse than a little JS |
| 21:16 |
benrob0329 |
JS may be bad, but PHP has been causing problems for far longer |
| 21:16 |
Jordach |
and yet server performance outranks all devices |
| 21:17 |
benrob0329 |
Note, a little |
| 21:17 |
benrob0329 |
Not a lot, not like most websites |
| 21:17 |
Jordach |
not overkill |
| 21:17 |
Jordach |
but enough for current functionality |
| 21:17 |
Jordach |
FB was made with fucking PHP and it runs smooth af using touch.fb.com |
| 21:17 |
Calinou |
the web isn't that overengineered, just look at the complex things that you do in a web browser every day |
| 21:17 |
benrob0329 |
Enough for the things static pages can't do |
| 21:18 |
benrob0329 |
Look how slow my phone is when trying to read an article |
| 21:18 |
benrob0329 |
isn't this so advanced? |
| 21:18 |
Calinou |
lots of static pages load really quickly for me |
| 21:18 |
Calinou |
mobile is a lost cause |
| 21:18 |
Calinou |
slow networks, slow browsers (Firefox) |
| 21:18 |
benrob0329 |
Instead of making it easier to use the web for what it was made for, we've made it better for making desktop applications! |
| 21:18 |
Calinou |
even on 4G, loading speeds will be acceptable at best |
| 21:19 |
Jordach |
benrob0329, microsoft barked up that tree in the 90s |
| 21:19 |
Jordach |
active desktop and activex |
| 21:19 |
Calinou |
well, thank Qt for being terrible in 2017 |
| 21:19 |
Calinou |
or pretty bad, at least |
| 21:19 |
Calinou |
it can make really nice things (Telegram Desktop) but it's a nightmare to develop |
| 21:19 |
benrob0329 |
Modern Web browsers have built in video player, and CSS has freaking animations built in |
| 21:20 |
benrob0329 |
You don't need to slow down everything for basic functionality |
| 21:21 |
benrob0329 |
I don't need infinite scroll, I need to be able to scroll in the first place |
| 21:24 |
Calinou |
fun fact: infinite scroll has been done mostly for commercial reasons :-) |
| 21:24 |
benrob0329 |
You know, at the end of the day basic HTML + CSS works the best, everywhere |
| 21:24 |
Calinou |
Facebook and the like love infinite scroll, because they make you stay on their site longer |
| 21:24 |
Calinou |
so, you view more ads |
| 21:24 |
Calinou |
and they help with addiction :P |
| 21:24 |
Calinou |
benrob0329: CSS animations are a very good thing if used right |
| 21:24 |
Calinou |
lots of sites use them wrong, but lots of sites also use them right |
| 21:25 |
Calinou |
also, look at this CSS framework, http://bulma.io/ |
| 21:25 |
Calinou |
it looks really nice, but does not require any JavaScript |
| 21:25 |
benrob0329 |
The entire MF Website series is fully readable on my phone, and it loads faster than Chrome itself |
| 21:25 |
Calinou |
some advanced features require writing your own JavaScript implementation, but jQuery is not required |
| 21:25 |
Calinou |
(jQuery is slow!) |
| 21:28 |
Fixer |
Calinou: my videocard have died it seems |
| 21:28 |
Calinou |
#PrayForVideocard |
| 21:30 |
Fixer |
Calinou: installed Ati X800GTO for now |
| 21:30 |
Fixer |
it is older than octacian* |
| 21:34 |
Fixer |
Calinou: died during testing when switching to gpu-z, black screen, after that boot hangs with black screen and a cursor, safe mode works, removing driver - 2dworks, installing again - hang with black screen. probably RIP |
| 21:35 |
Fixer |
tried pluging it into PCI-E 1x, still hang, checked cables, still hang |
| 21:35 |
Fixer |
will try to test on other PC but i'm pretty sure it wanted to die |
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Fixer |
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| 22:32 |
Calinou |
maybe the Source engine developers made Minetest |
| 22:32 |
Fixer |
granted, hd6870 used AF 2x by default iirc, but card from 2004 is totally playable, holy shit |
| 22:32 |
Fixer |
fuckign same fps, holy shiyt |
| 22:32 |
Fixer |
yet minecraft took huge hit in fps |
| 22:33 |
Calinou |
maybe Minetest isn't good at AMD |
| 22:33 |
Calinou |
many old games play much better on NVIDIA |
| 22:33 |
Fixer |
Calinou: it is still AMD card |
| 22:33 |
Calinou |
pretty much every arena FPS player uses NVIDIA |
| 22:33 |
Calinou |
especially QuakeWorld |
| 22:33 |
Calinou |
(and Intel CPUs) |
| 22:34 |
Fixer |
Calinou: also, quite funny CS 1.6 and CSS run with same fps, and CS 1.6 has much worse input lag, wth |
| 22:34 |
Fixer |
Source games performance and look is impressive by todays standards |
| 22:34 |
Fixer |
it gives nice optimal picture and high fps too |
| 22:34 |
Calinou |
depends, the older Source games don't look that good due to low-res lightmaps |
| 22:35 |
Calinou |
(like, the lightmap resolution is the same as in classic Quake, more or less) |
| 22:35 |
Calinou |
CS:GO fixed this with the real-time directional light |
| 22:35 |
Fixer |
Calinou: like CS:Source, looks totally good for me and fps is above 60 |
| 22:35 |
Calinou |
if you want to try a good-looking, old Source game, try Half-Life 2 Update or Black Mesa |
| 22:35 |
Calinou |
the former is a small mod for Half-Life 2, improving shaders and increasing lightmap resolutions |
| 22:35 |
Fixer |
i have black mesa, will try |
| 22:35 |
Calinou |
the latter is a remake of Half-Life 1 in Source |
| 22:36 |
Fixer |
Calinou: nvidia or ati in 2017? |
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Fixer |
smth around 180usd |
| 22:36 |
Calinou |
I'm not sure, but if you want to play old games, NVIDIA will be a better choice |
| 22:37 |
Megaf |
$ uname -a |
| 22:37 |
Megaf |
Linux aluminium 4.13.0-trunk-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.13.2-1~exp1 (2017-09-19) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 22:37 |
Megaf |
Debian Experimental is quite bleeding edge indeed |
| 22:37 |
Megaf |
Hi all |
| 22:37 |
Calinou |
hi Megaf :) |
| 22:37 |
Megaf |
Calinou, git checkout 0.4.14 doesnt work |
| 22:37 |
Megaf |
I'd like to checkout 0.4.14 and 0.4.16 |
| 22:37 |
Megaf |
those are tags |
| 22:39 |
Calinou |
what error message do you get? |
| 22:39 |
Fixer |
Calinou: i don't playing anything that comes in 10-20-30gb install file, no disk space and slow internet for DL that |
| 22:39 |
Fixer |
play* |
| 22:39 |
Calinou |
Fixer: then you probably want NVIDIA |
| 22:39 |
Calinou |
old/quirky games will often work better there |
| 22:39 |
Calinou |
and be smoother |
| 22:40 |
Megaf |
error: pathspec '0.4.14' did not match any file(s) known to git. |
| 22:40 |
Fixer |
Calinou: stuff like GTAIII/GTASA/CS1.6/CSS/DukeNukem/QuakeII/UT2004/OPF/BF2/BF1942/MaxPayne1/2 etc, classics in other words |
| 22:40 |
Calinou |
then it's not a valid branch, or you do not have it locally (in case you cloned a forked repository) |
| 22:40 |
Calinou |
Fixer: yeah… great games 8) |
| 22:41 |
Fixer |
and special mention - Ghost Recon (that first release in 2001), bestest graphics for its time and sound, mmm |
| 22:41 |
Fixer |
Calinou: Serious Sam 1/2 ofc |
| 22:42 |
Fixer |
MT/MC |
| 22:42 |
Calinou |
did you try the first Unreal? |
| 22:42 |
Fixer |
Arma2 was slow as fuck even on HD6870 |
| 22:42 |
Calinou |
the graphics are very good for a 1998 game |
| 22:42 |
Megaf |
Calinou, That's because I want a t a g not a branch |
| 22:42 |
Calinou |
you want this patch: http://www.oldunreal.com/oldunrealpatches.html |
| 22:42 |
Fixer |
Calinou: never played it, only Unreal Tournament one |
| 22:42 |
Calinou |
it's a singleplayer game, like Quake 2 but better-looking |
| 22:42 |
Calinou |
and with alternate fire :P |
| 22:43 |
Fixer |
Q2 is just my fav |
| 22:43 |
Fixer |
bestest, played it since 1990s |
| 22:43 |
Fixer |
also, MOHAA |
| 22:43 |
Fixer |
big fav |
| 22:43 |
Calinou |
I have a Q2 coop server, by the way |
| 22:44 |
Fixer |
i'm at hometown server right now, on my base, amazed at performance |
| 22:44 |
Fixer |
of this card |
| 22:44 |
Fixer |
minetest appears to be insanely cpu bound |
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| 22:47 |
Fixer |
Calinou: on 2004 MT has better fps than MC, yet on 2011 HD6870 it has much worse one |
| 22:47 |
Fixer |
hmmmmmm |
| 22:47 |
Megaf |
So folks, I'd like to clone this https://github.com/minetest/minetest/tree/0.4.14 and this https://github.com/minetest/minetest/tree/0.4.16 |
| 22:47 |
Calinou |
yeah, Minetest has a big CPU bottleneck |
| 22:47 |
Megaf |
no idea how tho |
| 22:48 |
Calinou |
Megaf: https://hastebin.com/decoqunalo.txt |
| 22:48 |
Calinou |
works for me… |
| 22:48 |
sofar |
Megaf: clone, or "get a copy" |
| 22:48 |
Calinou |
(I was on the "master" branch when I did this) |
| 22:49 |
Fixer |
hitting my 100 fps cap on my base on LibertyLand |
| 22:49 |
sofar |
Megaf: git clone $(base) ; cd minetest ; git checkout 0.4.14 |
| 22:49 |
Megaf |
I think know where the problem is |
| 22:49 |
Megaf |
stand by |
| 22:50 |
Fixer |
Calinou: ETS2 *cough* |
| 22:51 |
Fixer |
fuuuuuuuu, ETS2 fail, wont start, RIP |
| 22:52 |
Megaf |
sofar, Calinou, it works now, I was using --depth=1 when cloning, |
| 22:52 |
Megaf |
I thouigh it would download the tag on demand when checking out |
| 22:52 |
Megaf |
but it wontr |
| 22:52 |
Megaf |
wont* |
| 22:52 |
Fixer |
only 75fps in CS 1.6 how is that even possible... |
| 22:52 |
sofar |
git fetch all |
| 22:52 |
Calinou |
--depth=1 does not clone non-default branches, and old commits |
| 22:52 |
sofar |
right |
| 22:52 |
Calinou |
(but you can "git pull", at least) |
| 22:52 |
Calinou |
(this used to not be possible!) |
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| 22:57 |
Fixer |
Calinou: black mesa is much more hard hitting, getting around 24 fps |
| 22:58 |
Calinou |
heh, looked at Steam sales, found this: http://store.steampowered.com/app/6910/Deus_Ex_Game_of_the_Year_Edition/ |
| 22:59 |
Calinou |
$1.39, pretty nice |
| 22:59 |
Calinou |
you can get this mod, to make it look better: http://store.steampowered.com/app/397550/Deus_Ex_Revision/ |
| 23:07 |
Fixer |
CMR2005, solid 60 fps on good settings |
| 23:11 |
Megaf |
celeron55, you might find this interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNW3Xqtgkus |
| 23:11 |
Megaf |
tho I know you don't like him |
| 23:11 |
Megaf |
eevblog |
| 23:11 |
Megaf |
"EEVblog #1027 - Implantable NeuroStimulator Teardown" |
| 23:15 |
Fixer |
in BF2 - 35-60+ fps, playabl |
| 23:15 |
Fixer |
e |
| 23:16 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: I have changed my stance on having a video stack in the kernel |
| 23:16 |
Megaf |
why is that? |
| 23:16 |
benrob0329 |
We already have OpenGL drivers and render interfaces for the FrameBuffer, which go largely unused |
| 23:17 |
Megaf |
Precisely |
| 23:17 |
benrob0329 |
They could be expanded upon, the program spawned can be changed from getty |
| 23:18 |
benrob0329 |
(I have a program which acts like a display manager, it replaces Getty as the spawned program when you open a TTY) |
| 23:19 |
Megaf |
we already have the whole graphical stack in the kernel |
| 23:19 |
Megaf |
its just not used |
| 23:19 |
benrob0329 |
I use it, to watch YouTube :P |
| 23:19 |
benrob0329 |
I actually have MPV configured to change displays if I have my laptop hooked up to hdmi |
| 23:21 |
Megaf |
currently Im using opengl for output and vdpau for decoding |
| 23:21 |
Megaf |
with this nvidia GPU and proprietary driver |
| 23:21 |
Megaf |
on my ATI laptop vdpau output works best |
| 23:21 |
benrob0329 |
Megaf: we even have a mouse daemon |
| 23:22 |
benrob0329 |
I use vdpau in Xorg, doesn't work for me in FB :-( |
| 23:22 |
* DI3HARD139 |
pokes his head in while waiting for MT to load |
| 23:22 |
DI3HARD139 |
What I miss? |
| 23:22 |
Fixer |
Calinou: interest-ly NFS Most Wanted from 2005 barely runs at it with just 30 fps |
| 23:22 |
DI3HARD139 |
Barely runs at what? |
| 23:22 |
benrob0329 |
Us wanting MT to run in the FrameBuffer :P |
| 23:22 |
DI3HARD139 |
That would be super helpful tbh |
| 23:23 |
benrob0329 |
I mean, OpenGL works in jt |
| 23:23 |
Megaf |
if we used Qt it'd run on FB |
| 23:23 |
benrob0329 |
*it |
| 23:23 |
benrob0329 |
SDL supposedly runs in the FB too |
| 23:24 |
benrob0329 |
I mean, Libinput, GPM, DRM (the rendering interface), and OpenGL are all in the stack |
| 23:25 |
benrob0329 |
No Xorg required |
| 23:31 |
Fixer |
mc beta is daaaamn slow under this card |
| 23:31 |
Fixer |
even with optifine |
| 23:33 |
Fixer |
lets try 1.12.1 with optifine -_- |
| 23:34 |
Megaf |
benrob0329, heck, even DOS could run 3D games... |
| 23:34 |
DI3HARD139 |
Quick question. What would be the proper install dir for lsqlite3 when installing/building via luarocks? |
| 23:37 |
Megaf |
OS? |
| 23:37 |
DI3HARD139 |
Ubuntu Server 16.04.3 LTS x64 |
| 23:39 |
Megaf |
Why do you want to build using luarocks? |
| 23:39 |
Megaf |
I dont know how that works... |
| 23:39 |
Fixer |
not bad |
| 23:40 |
sofar |
DI3HARD139: mine ends up as /usr/lib/lua/5.1/lsqlite3.so - but you have to make sure to get luarocks for 5.1 |
| 23:40 |
sofar |
since most distros are at 5.3 |
| 23:41 |
Fixer |
1.12.1 on par with beta or even better |
| 23:42 |
DI3HARD139 |
hmm..... |
| 23:42 |
DI3HARD139 |
Wonder why it can't find sqlite3.h |
| 23:43 |
sofar |
fairly sure luarocks want you to have it provided by an sqlite3-dev package |
| 23:46 |
DI3HARD139 |
ah. it was libsqlite3-dev not the sqlite3 and sqlite3-dev packages |
| 23:46 |
Megaf |
well, it cant find luajit here either |
| 23:46 |
Megaf |
but I no longer care |
| 23:46 |
Megaf |
for years MT's cmake fails to find stuff on Debian |
| 23:46 |
DI3HARD139 |
and Windows* |
| 23:47 |
Megaf |
here I had to install 3 different packages for JPEG and 2 for PNG so it could find them |
| 23:52 |
benrob0329 |
I still have yet to understand why everyone wants to use Cmake instead of make |
