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Calinou |
https://code.facebook.com/posts/300798627056246/relicensing-react-jest-flow-and-immutable-js/ :) |
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Calinou |
hi :P |
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Calinou |
the Eclipse website is broken right now, it has tons of publicly-visible "Cannot connect to database" errors |
| 08:25 |
Calinou |
(I eventually need to download it, I'll need it for some university classes, which seem to be Eclipse-specific, even though IntelliJ has been the superior IDE for a while now) |
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sfan5 |
read "Red Eclipse" at first and was mildly confused |
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Raven262 |
Hi Calinou |
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lisac |
Calinou, why not use CMake? |
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| 11:32 |
Calinou |
lisac: we're doing Java for the OOP course ;) |
| 11:32 |
Calinou |
oh also, Java 9 was released two days ago |
| 11:32 |
Calinou |
I already updated :P |
| 11:33 |
Calinou |
(Oracle JDK is here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk9-downloads-3848520.html) |
| 11:33 |
Calinou |
(for OpenJDK, it's in Linux distro repositories or PPAs/custom repos) |
| 11:33 |
Fixer |
hometown - 68 players o_O o_O o_O |
| 11:34 |
Fixer |
help on formspecs needed https://github.com/cx384/storage_interface/issues/2 |
| 11:42 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: kaeza signs on VE-S spawn yet again (near nuclear reactor) |
| 11:43 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: nevermind, they are empty for some reason |
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Fixer |
VanessaE: not nevermind, needs clearobjects again to display on signs :/ |
| 11:51 |
VanessaE |
done. |
| 11:55 |
lisac |
Calinou, that is better then us doing Pascal |
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Fixer |
VanessaE: ty |
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Fixer |
lisac: ｔｕｒｂï½ã€€ï½ï½ï½“ｃï½ï½Œ |
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Fixer |
damn, shitty internet connection |
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Jordach |
sfan5, new build pls |
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Jordach |
Krock, got a new build for x64? |
| 13:49 |
Krock |
Jordach, no sorry. I've never built for x64. I'd have to check how this buildbot stuff works |
| 13:49 |
Jordach |
sfan5 isn't here |
| 13:50 |
* Krock |
tries to build |
| 13:52 |
Krock |
ah. mingw32 is required >.< |
| 13:55 |
* Krock |
puts "Install MinGW for occasional xbuilds" on his ToDoSomeWhen list |
| 14:04 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: soonâ„¢ |
| 14:10 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=294919#p294919 |
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srifqi |
paramat, any ideas? Or just fine with that? (# 6399) |
| 14:13 |
* srifqi |
realises that he sent in wrong channel. ._. |
| 14:41 |
paramat |
see my comment |
| 14:42 |
paramat |
but we need to fix those approximate floats |
| 14:46 |
srifqi |
Any idea how? I think it's data transfer from C++ to Lua which makes approximate floats. Probably because of different data type? |
| 14:47 |
paramat |
no idea yet |
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| 14:52 |
Krock |
Lua uses doubles, we use floats by default. Seems logical that the additional precision shows up the inaccuracy of floats |
| 15:01 |
rdococ |
triples and quadruples! |
| 15:04 |
rdococ |
also, can't you configure Lua to use different numerical types? |
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| 16:13 |
Krock |
sure, there's a define in one header you can modify to any numeric type you want |
| 16:32 |
rdococ |
yay! use bignums! |
| 16:32 |
rdococ |
(jk, not for minetest at least :P) |
| 16:39 |
rdococ |
hm, is there a concept for thread-local variables which are local to each thread, but otherwise global? |
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rdococ |
a function needn't necessarily have variables local to the function runtime, it could have its local variables stored in a scope at the function's creation time, but also per thread |
| 17:13 |
rdococ |
I think, anyway. |
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rdococ |
hi Krock odile. |
| 17:17 |
Krock |
hi |
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rdococ |
I'm working on a concept for a weird programming language. |
| 17:31 |
Calinou |
time to register weird-lang.org, create a fancy website and write "New expressive, functional, reactive language because there's none right now" |
| 17:31 |
rdococ |
lol |
| 17:32 |
rdococ |
no, not that kind of weird. |
| 17:32 |
benrob0329 |
Calinou: and the compiler will still be written in C, because C actually works |
| 17:32 |
rdococ |
lol |
| 17:33 |
rdococ |
Calinou, the language isn't even meant for practicality |
| 17:33 |
benrob0329 |
Then why does it exist? |
| 17:34 |
rdococ |
why does brainfuck exist? why does befunge exist? why does, say, um, Malbolge exist? |
| 17:34 |
rdococ |
benrob0329: or you can accept the more pedantic answer of "because I'm designing it". |
| 17:35 |
rdococ |
probably won't ever actually implement it, though. |
| 17:35 |
benrob0329 |
Brainfuck is at least interesting, but there seem to be a lot of "new better languages" that are about as useful |
| 17:35 |
rdococ |
true |
| 17:35 |
benrob0329 |
rdococ: could be a fun coding project if I ever get good enough to take on such a task |
| 17:36 |
rdococ |
I mean, it doesn't really seem hard to use at the moment. function scopes are messed up, but still usable |
| 17:36 |
rdococ |
the concept atm reifies scope, which is kinda interesting |
| 17:37 |
benrob0329 |
rdococ: but is it possible to impliment? |
| 17:38 |
rdococ |
huh. I've just realized I might not need a callstack. |
| 17:42 |
rdococ |
(functions are called with an additional argument, which is the continuation. they call it as a substitute to using a 'return' keyword.) |
| 17:44 |
benrob0329 |
rdococ: what about functions that have multiple poesies return values? |
| 17:44 |
benrob0329 |
*possible |
| 17:44 |
rdococ |
benrob0329: whadya mean? |
| 17:45 |
benrob0329 |
If a is true, return b. If b is true, return c. |
| 17:45 |
rdococ |
you can call the continuation with arguments, equivalent to passing values to 'return' |
| 17:46 |
rdococ |
return b -> k(b); |
| 17:46 |
Krock |
return a and b and c |
| 17:46 |
rdococ |
return c -> k(c); |
| 17:46 |
rdococ |
if (a) { k(b) }; if (b) { k(c) }; |
| 17:46 |
rdococ |
wait. |
| 17:46 |
benrob0329 |
And this is clearer than return why? |
| 17:47 |
rdococ |
sorry, this was meant to be clearer than return? |
| 17:47 |
rdococ |
I swore I had just said this isn't meant for practicality. |
| 17:47 |
rdococ |
aha! <rdococ> Calinou, the language isn't even meant for practicality |
| 17:47 |
benrob0329 |
OK, fair enough |
| 17:48 |
benrob0329 |
It'll probably become the next JavaScript anyways |
| 17:48 |
rdococ |
heh |
| 17:48 |
rdococ |
I haven't experienced javascript very much tbh, but it doesn't seem too bad |
| 17:49 |
rdococ |
at least if you ignore the whole html thing |
| 17:49 |
rdococ |
I mean, .innerHTML as a string? seriously? |
| 17:49 |
benrob0329 |
If you have an error, it won't tell you |
| 17:49 |
rdococ |
true, but there are developer consoles which do tell you |
| 17:50 |
rdococ |
albeit cumbersome ones |
| 17:50 |
benrob0329 |
I'll stick to compilers :P |
| 17:51 |
rdococ |
heh |
| 17:51 |
rdococ |
I like the idea of JIT compilation to intermediate bytecode |
| 17:52 |
benrob0329 |
I don't, its more runtimes I have to install |
| 17:53 |
rdococ |
um, my specification is becoming sentient: "Specification does not explicitly define whether Placeholder values are to be converted to true, or to false, when converted to a boolean, and specification is now apparently self-aware. Specification has also browsed TVTropes, and would call this lampshade hanging." |
| 17:54 |
benrob0329 |
Riiight...good luck with that |
| 17:55 |
rdococ |
lol, I just wikipedia'd NaN: "In computing, NaN, standing for not a number, is a numeric data type value". sounds quite self-contradictory, huh. |
| 17:55 |
benrob0329 |
Well, technically its not contradictory |
| 17:56 |
benrob0329 |
Its a data type signifying that the variable isnt really a number, in a way that other numerical data types can understand (iirc) |
| 17:56 |
rdococ |
eh, true. |
| 17:56 |
rdococ |
but it's not a data type. it's a value. :P |
| 17:57 |
rdococ |
(the data type is still floating point number, it's just a special case.) |
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Hijiri |
you'll end up with something like a call stack on the heap if you use continuations like that |
| 18:53 |
Hijiri |
since the continuations will need to keep references to the previous continuation somehow |
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tenplus1 |
hi folks |
| 19:13 |
behalebabo |
hello |
| 19:17 |
tenplus1 |
hi behalebabo |
| 19:20 |
Jordach |
i can't compile latest git |
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Jordach |
under debian 8 |
| 19:21 |
tenplus1 |
hi Jordach, too old a setup ? like < ubuntu 16.04 ? |
| 19:21 |
Jordach |
https://gist.github.com/Jordach/1b28f21f7113223c14bf30036f40a464 |
| 19:25 |
Jordach |
tenplus1, sfan5 ^ |
| 19:25 |
sfan5 |
-DENABLE_SYSTEM_JSONCPP=1 |
| 19:25 |
sfan5 |
yellaz nrz if this issue bothers you |
| 19:25 |
tenplus1 |
heh sorry, was trying to make sense of it :PPPPP |
| 19:26 |
tenplus1 |
hi sfan |
| 19:26 |
Jordach |
sfan5, for all the shit i give nerzhul, i appriciate his work |
| 19:27 |
Jordach |
i give you shit because i care about it at the end of it all |
| 19:39 |
Calinou |
(why isn't system jsoncpp used by default on Linux, sfan5?) |
| 19:39 |
Calinou |
(since a lot of systems don't build with the bundled jsoncpp) |
| 19:39 |
tenplus1 |
o/ Cal |
| 19:39 |
sfan5 |
(that's a good question, Calinou) |
| 19:39 |
Calinou |
(and modern distros bundle modern jsoncpp versions) |
| 19:39 |
Calinou |
:P |
| 19:40 |
Calinou |
hi tenplus1 :) |
| 20:06 |
tenplus1 |
what else does minetest bundle that tends to come on newer Os' |
| 20:08 |
Krock |
..luajit? |
| 20:08 |
tenplus1 |
one of the dependencies when installing on linux is lua5.2 and luajit from repos... |
| 20:08 |
tenplus1 |
also hi Krock |
| 20:08 |
Krock |
hi tenplus1 |
| 20:14 |
tenplus1 |
ubuntu repos has Lua 5.3 in there, I wonder how much better it is over .2 |
| 20:17 |
sfan5 |
minetest can only use lua5.1 |
| 20:18 |
tenplus1 |
how come ? wouldnt it use the latest available if it were installed ? |
| 20:18 |
tenplus1 |
or is it compiled against 5.1 |
| 20:18 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 20:18 |
sfan5 |
minetest will link to either lua5.1 or luajit (which is basically 5.1 with a few select 5.2 features) |
| 20:19 |
sfan5 |
supporting 5.2 or 5.3 is extra work |
| 20:19 |
tenplus1 |
damn,,, nothing is ever easy with updates |
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tenplus1 |
hi fussel |
| 20:20 |
IhrFussel |
Hey...apparently the Shiningmoon server got "hacked" and they banned the admin/moderators and are messing with the server right now |
| 20:20 |
tenplus1 |
how'd they ban admin ? |
| 20:20 |
Shara |
Hi all |
| 20:21 |
tenplus1 |
hi shara |
| 20:21 |
Shara |
Kiddy admins doing /grant all again? |
| 20:21 |
IhrFussel |
I think they banned the co-admins and use the admin account itself now |
| 20:21 |
tenplus1 |
gawd... hope they manage to get it under control |
| 20:21 |
IhrFussel |
It's a minetesthosting server |
| 20:22 |
* Shara |
was just about to comment on that... |
| 20:22 |
Shara |
But I assume the owner, since it seems to be a paid one, has some way to fix that |
| 20:22 |
IhrFussel |
+ I hope they have backups...they seem to use WE a lot right now |
| 20:22 |
tenplus1 |
hope so... no kiddy admin should ever take control of someone's server |
| 20:23 |
Shara |
Who's server is is? |
| 20:23 |
Shara |
is it* |
| 20:23 |
Krock |
"can i plz be mod i can help u" |
| 20:24 |
tenplus1 |
does that actually work ? |
| 20:24 |
Krock |
10 mins later: "how do i make pickaxe" |
| 20:24 |
Shara |
Hmm, I can't connect to the server at all |
| 20:24 |
Krock |
tenplus1, yes if it's a kiddy admin xD |
| 20:24 |
tenplus1 |
gawd... |
| 20:25 |
Shara |
Sign in under the name of any dev or well known MT person and then ask for privs.... it works |
| 20:25 |
tenplus1 |
*shudder*... not on my server... |
| 20:25 |
Krock |
tenplus1, pls gimme privs priv im a dev ;) |
| 20:25 |
Shara |
tenplus1: because you're no kiddy admin :) |
| 20:26 |
tenplus1 |
lolol |
| 20:26 |
tenplus1 |
even the /limit command we give admin has no effect on owners |
| 20:26 |
Krock |
Shara, well, as long it's confirmed over IRC or comparable I don't see a problem. the headdesk part starts when they're too naive and grant it directly |
| 20:27 |
Shara |
Krock: I've seen that headdesk part a good few times and have cleaned up the mess for people a couple of times too |
| 20:28 |
Krock |
sudo rm -rf /* cleans up pretty much every mess you can imagine :P |
| 20:28 |
Shara |
:P |
| 20:28 |
tenplus1 |
lolololol |
| 20:29 |
tenplus1 |
nite folks o/ |
| 20:29 |
Shara |
Night ten |
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| 20:29 |
Krock |
nite |
| 20:33 |
IhrFussel |
It seems to start here https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=16452#p294454 |
| 20:35 |
Krock |
exactly one newline character in 2000 characters |
| 20:36 |
* Shara |
wonders what Dargod has to do with this Shiningmoon mess |
| 20:36 |
sfan5 |
>all uppercase forum posts |
| 20:36 |
sfan5 |
??? |
| 20:36 |
* Shara |
gets a feeling |
| 20:36 |
Krock |
sfan5, not all uppercase.. just almost |
| 20:37 |
Shara |
Fussel, odds are this was Faker, if you remember him. Dargod is one of the people he often impersonates. |
| 20:37 |
Krock |
nvm, seen the post above |
| 20:40 |
IhrFussel |
Ok so "Dargod" is someone known on many servers? And the faker probably used his name to get privs on Shiningmoon? |
| 20:40 |
Shara |
Dargod is in the channel here right now |
| 20:40 |
Shara |
(but almost certainly asleep) |
| 20:41 |
Shara |
Faker often tried to get privs on his server, and impersonated Dargod, as well as me, to try and get privs elsewhere |
| 21:02 |
CWz |
sounds like jerk player, encountered players like them in the past |
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Fixer |
grey screen and not responsive pc |
| 21:38 |
Fixer |
what a great time |
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rdococ |
I get that you should use override_chatcommand, but does minetest.register_chatcommand error when the command already exists? |
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IhrFussel |
Good night |
