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| 00:00 |
rdococ |
why is that? |
| 00:00 |
rubenwardy |
speeds up loading |
| 00:00 |
benrob0329 |
Crappy connections are crappy |
| 00:00 |
rubenwardy |
link and script block the page from displaying |
| 00:00 |
rubenwardy |
unless they're async or included last |
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| 00:00 |
rdococ |
should I put the <head> tags after <body> then? |
| 00:00 |
rubenwardy |
no |
| 00:01 |
rubenwardy |
you can use script and link outside of head |
| 00:01 |
rubenwardy |
see https://github.com/rubenwardy/minetest_modding_book/blob/gh-pages/_includes/header.html#L10 |
| 00:01 |
rubenwardy |
and https://github.com/rubenwardy/minetest_modding_book/blob/gh-pages/_includes/footer.html |
| 00:03 |
rdococ |
btw, like the font? |
| 00:04 |
rubenwardy |
I don't know why |
| 00:04 |
rubenwardy |
but I have a feeling I've seen it before... |
| 00:04 |
rdococ |
lol |
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| 00:06 |
benrob0329 |
Can I request that something like a test site or a blog please not desire JavaScript or a huge custom font to display? |
| 00:06 |
benrob0329 |
*require |
| 00:06 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
| 00:06 |
rubenwardy |
De Ja Vu is a webfont, apparently |
| 00:06 |
rubenwardy |
not custom |
| 00:07 |
rubenwardy |
but the menu really doesn't require CSS currently |
| 00:08 |
rdococ |
meh |
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| 00:23 |
IhrFussel |
Why self:set_hp() doesn't work in on_punch of register_entity? |
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| 00:27 |
IhrFussel |
OK so it's self.object:set_hp() |
| 00:27 |
rdococ |
lol |
| 00:37 |
IhrFussel |
I'm still not sure why damage_groups = {immortal=1} didn't work...my entity had 10 HP |
| 00:38 |
rdococ |
I like how IE is so crappy it needed its own messy conditional system so websites could work with it, lol |
| 00:40 |
Aerozoic |
LOL dafuq??? https://github.com/minetest-mods/warps/blob/master/LICENSE#L2 |
| 00:41 |
Aerozoic |
sofar, ^ |
| 00:45 |
Megaf |
good stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYYw1cYS8o8 |
| 00:45 |
Megaf |
for electronics nerds ^ |
| 00:46 |
Megaf |
by electronics I mean, stuff like transistors, capacitor, peltier plates |
| 00:46 |
rdococ |
btw, how would you remove the space at the top? |
| 00:46 |
rdococ |
I only want to remove it for the nav bar |
| 01:45 |
sofar |
Aerozoic: lol, yeah, copypasta |
| 01:46 |
sofar |
Aerozoic: fixed |
| 01:46 |
Aerozoic |
:) |
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* rdococ |
has quit (Quit: "Overly long message about dumb stuff.") |
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| 04:18 |
benrob0329 |
Do we have reputable Appimages yet? |
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| 04:42 |
sofar |
use flatpak instead |
| 04:43 |
benrob0329 |
Why? Flatpack is literally just a userspace package manager |
| 04:43 |
benrob0329 |
which is not what I want |
| 04:44 |
sofar |
I don't know what you want, tbh |
| 04:44 |
sofar |
I know you don't want PA, that's about it :) |
| 04:44 |
benrob0329 |
A downloadable executable for Linux |
| 04:44 |
benrob0329 |
A statically linked executable would do it but...licenses |
| 04:46 |
sofar |
why would flatpak not be useful in this case? it gets you what you want and most distro's support it |
| 04:47 |
benrob0329 |
Because A) Extra Complexity and B) you can't install multiple versions easily |
| 04:48 |
benrob0329 |
and B is going to be needed when half our servers are still on 0.4 |
| 04:49 |
sofar |
shrug, pick your battles carefully I'd say |
| 04:51 |
benrob0329 |
I do, which is why I don't want to deal with Flatpack when an executable thing makes more sense imo. Flackpack definitely has its place, just not here :-) |
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| 11:32 |
rdococ |
yey |
| 12:00 |
Shara |
Hello |
| 12:12 |
* Megaf |
hugs rdococ |
| 12:12 |
* Megaf |
roars for Shara |
| 12:12 |
Shara |
:D |
| 12:13 |
Megaf |
Anyone here testing Firefox Nightly builds? |
| 12:16 |
Fixer |
no |
| 12:18 |
Megaf |
You are all Google Slaves xP |
| 12:19 |
Fixer |
I'm using firefox btw |
| 12:21 |
rdococ |
Megaf: I use Chromium, DDG, and have a plugin for finding and disabling trackers. try calling me a Google Slave(TM) now :P |
| 12:25 |
Fixer |
rdococ: don't forget to not use google itself, facebook and other stuff |
| 12:26 |
rdococ |
I don't use any of those, lol |
| 12:26 |
rdococ |
at least not anymore :/ |
| 12:27 |
Megaf |
I don't use facebook either |
| 12:28 |
Megaf |
but I've been *insert word here* a come back to facebook |
| 12:28 |
Megaf |
pondering? |
| 12:31 |
rdococ |
ew |
| 13:15 |
Fixer |
https://imgur.com/a/oRwVU |
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| 13:19 |
IhrFussel |
Hey guys |
| 13:22 |
Megaf |
hi IhrFussel |
| 13:31 |
Calinou |
<Megaf> Anyone here testing Firefox Nightly builds? |
| 13:31 |
Calinou |
did you mean, Firedoge Nightly? ;) |
| 13:33 |
rdococ |
Foyerdoge Nitely |
| 13:47 |
Fixer |
IhrFussel: Minetest is doing |
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Megaf |
well, Google Chrome is the browser that works the best here |
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| 14:03 |
IhrFussel |
Fixer, huh? o.o |
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| 14:54 |
Fixer |
compiled latest engine and went MP |
| 14:55 |
Fixer |
only one compatible server |
| 14:55 |
Fixer |
by jas |
| 15:00 |
Fixer |
server is quite new yet literally everything is griefed or made by 3 year old |
| 15:01 |
benrob0329 |
garywhite: (Offtopic, epic af doctor who fan intro) https://youtu.be/EmlNrd-LkPw |
| 15:16 |
IhrFussel |
The dumbest thing you can do as server admin is not to have any form of protection on the server |
| 15:17 |
IhrFussel |
The 2nd dumbest thing is to not protect a large area around the spawn (I learned that the hard way) |
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| 15:19 |
IhrFussel |
Okay actually the DUMBEST thing is to set "123" as admin password |
| 15:21 |
Aerozoic |
OMG i just successfully installed Oregon trail using CDemu and WINE!!!! HAHAHA!!! |
| 15:23 |
Aerozoic |
Oregon Trail II to be exact. LOL |
| 15:24 |
Krock |
IhrFussel, just leave the password field empty the first time :P |
| 15:27 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, you mean that's possible? Should probably be fixed to require a password for the admin account at least |
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| 15:36 |
Krock |
I believe it's possible to leave it empty. Surely, there's disallow_empty_password = false |
| 15:40 |
IhrFussel |
Krock, I know that option exists but it shouldn't affect the ADMIN...the admin should be forced to choose one |
| 15:41 |
Krock |
nothing prevents people from being stupid |
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| 15:54 |
IhrFussel |
But we shouldn't make it even easier for them to make mistake |
| 15:56 |
Fixer |
IhrFussel: just make one big spawn that looks like a prison for all mobile players, and PC users as guards |
| 15:59 |
IhrFussel |
mistakes* Fixer, if server owners dislike mobile players they can just divide the map into 2 zones... -31000 - 0 mobile zone and 0 - 31000 PC zone |
| 15:59 |
IhrFussel |
=P |
| 16:00 |
IhrFussel |
It's also relatively easy to detect mobile players: They barely need to jump cause that's auto-enabled (right now) |
| 16:01 |
Fixer |
IhrFussel: yeah |
| 16:01 |
Fixer |
IhrFussel: like North (mobile) and South Korea (PC) |
| 16:01 |
IhrFussel |
If you somehow log the amount of jumps of players you can (after a short while) see who's on mobile likely |
| 16:03 |
Fixer |
IhrFussel: from what I know mobile players go upstairs very fast and also kinda walk on water |
| 16:04 |
Fixer |
IhrFussel: alongside with UsernameXXX and this detection - it is possible to filter them to other half of the map, and BUILD THE WALL |
| 16:09 |
IhrFussel |
The prefix detection will already match at least 90% of them |
| 16:09 |
IhrFussel |
+ a few false positives |
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lisac |
hey everyone. |
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Calinou |
Fixer_: we'll build a parkour to keep mobile users out! |
| 17:52 |
Calinou |
oh wait… |
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| 19:07 |
IhrFussel |
Does mesecons have anything you can use as a counter? |
| 19:08 |
DS-minetest |
the luacontroller |
| 19:08 |
IhrFussel |
DS-minetest, any example code? |
| 19:09 |
IhrFussel |
I'm guessing I check for the "on" event of the pin and then juzst increase a variable? Can I also log the value? |
| 19:10 |
DS-minetest |
log it with print? |
| 19:10 |
IhrFussel |
Does print print to log file? I think no |
| 19:12 |
DS-minetest |
what log file? print prints the given string |
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| 19:16 |
IhrFussel |
DS-minetest, debug.txt |
| 19:17 |
DS-minetest |
afaik luaontroller's env's print prints the given thing dumped with the normal print function |
| 19:18 |
DS-minetest |
yep |
| 19:18 |
DS-minetest |
local function safe_print(param) |
| 19:18 |
DS-minetest |
print(dump(param)) |
| 19:18 |
DS-minetest |
end |
| 19:18 |
IhrFussel |
That's useless I need the value in my debug.txt |
| 19:19 |
DS-minetest |
well, you could change the function |
| 19:20 |
DS-minetest |
or you use moremesecons luablock |
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IhrFussel |
nerzhul, not every server owner WANTS to give his moderators the privs the server ignores for max_users cap ... what if a server has CUSTOM privs for moderators? I certainly do and I want my moderators to join ANYTIME |
| 19:52 |
IhrFussel |
I suggest making the privs, the server uses to ignore the max_users a setting in the conf |
| 19:53 |
nerzhul |
stop caps and maybe i can listen to you more carefuly |
| 19:53 |
IhrFussel |
Those caps are a type of authentic wording |
| 19:53 |
nerzhul |
it doesn't make me happy to help you :p |
| 19:54 |
IhrFussel |
Since you cannot write the same way you can talk I use those to mark special words I'd speak in an authentic way |
| 19:54 |
nerzhul |
i have the solution, but not the code |
| 19:56 |
IhrFussel |
The actual problem is another though: If the server has a cap of 30 and 20 are currently in the game and 10 players are in the phase of downloading media => server blocked |
| 19:56 |
IhrFussel |
blocked as in no other players can play |
| 19:57 |
IhrFussel |
Downloading media can take up to TEN minutes on phones |
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IhrFussel |
So potential new players are locked out because there are too many connecting with phones + no one knows if they will even FINISH the loading |
| 20:03 |
IhrFussel |
I'm logging every user who tries to connect to my server: 3 / 8 in the last minute NEVER joined |
| 20:04 |
IhrFussel |
And that's not even the worst case scenario ... in most cases their app crashes or they lose internet connection while downloading the media |
| 20:04 |
IhrFussel |
But my point is they use one of my server slots...for nothing |
| 20:08 |
IhrFussel |
Not sure how to code it better though...it does make sense that a player slot is used as soon as someone established a connection to the server and I would be awful to see "too many users" at the end of loading media if we'd move the player slot check to joining |
| 20:08 |
IhrFussel |
it would be* |
| 20:57 |
nerzhul |
IhrFussel, i think i can add a lua callback: lua->isPlayerAllowedToByPassLimit() |
| 21:00 |
IhrFussel |
nerzhul, so we then can say for example if minetest.get_player_privs(name).custom then return true end ? |
| 21:01 |
IhrFussel |
true = allowed, false = reject? |
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sofar |
FYI https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=18406 |
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red-001 |
oh cool |
| 21:45 |
red-001 |
glad to see the server is finally public |
| 21:50 |
sofar |
yeah, it was overdue |
| 21:51 |
sofar |
I'm gonna let people test it by playing |
| 21:51 |
sofar |
We can work on the missing stuff as we go |
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nerzhul |
nice job sofar |
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| 22:03 |
nerzhul |
modified core or pure lua ? |
| 22:03 |
sofar |
still needs work, but we just need to let people play on it |
| 22:04 |
sofar |
all lua, the only thing that's custom is that the maps/boxes are in a sqlite store through lsqlite3 |
| 22:04 |
sofar |
and so is the metadata for all the levels |
| 22:06 |
sofar |
1.5M itb.sqlite |
| 22:06 |
sofar |
26M map.sqlite |
| 22:06 |
sofar |
512K players.sqlite |
| 22:06 |
sofar |
it's a tiny server too |
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rubenwardy |
sofar, nice! |
| 22:46 |
rubenwardy |
looks cool |
| 22:47 |
rubenwardy |
nice to see another unique/innovative subgame |
| 22:52 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 22:52 |
Calinou |
see #minetest-dev, I asked a question about PostgreSQL |
| 22:56 |
rubenwardy |
as well as installing postgresql, I've install advtrains, Calinou |
| 22:56 |
rubenwardy |
time for the fun to begin! |
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Calinou |
advtrains? |
| 23:00 |
rubenwardy |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=14726 |
| 23:00 |
rubenwardy |
!title |
| 23:00 |
ShadowBot |
[Mod] Advanced Trains [advtrains] [1.8.3] - Minetest Forums |
| 23:02 |
rubenwardy |
what settings would you suggest for a server where the client and the server both have 100+ Mbps? |
| 23:03 |
rubenwardy |
aiming for optimal block transfer |
| 23:12 |
Megaf |
My latest wallpaper for phone, maybe computers too, resolution is quite high |
| 23:12 |
Megaf |
Megaf's Minimalist Material Dark Prism http://imgur.com/a/MR2Me |
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