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| 00:10 |
rdococ |
could it be possible in a clientside mod? |
| 00:12 |
benrob0329 |
http://contrastrebellion.com/ |
| 00:18 |
Calinou |
whoa, today I learned one of Urban Terror's maps uses an ambient sound that's exactly the same as the "fire" one in Minetest |
| 00:24 |
Calinou |
(ut4_raiders, for those wondering) |
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VanessaE |
Calinou: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=10091&p=286977#p286957 |
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sofar |
Calinou: many CC0 sound bites around... I've even found movies that have the same sound bites as WoW |
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tenplus1 |
hi folks |
| 09:29 |
shivajiva |
Good morning 11 |
| 09:29 |
tenplus1 |
hi shiva |
| 09:29 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 09:30 |
shivajiva |
lol |
| 09:31 |
tenplus1 |
hows things? |
| 09:35 |
shivajiva |
okay I guess, c55 has stated not to hold breath waiting for server side path finding, may take him a year, so I know where I stand :/ |
| 09:35 |
tenplus1 |
I thought it was already server side |
| 09:36 |
shivajiva |
nowhere...this is to stop players cheating |
| 09:36 |
Shara |
paramat tried to push for it in -dev last night |
| 09:36 |
Shara |
response made it clear it's not a priority |
| 09:36 |
tenplus1 |
hrm |
| 09:36 |
shivajiva |
the thing that nobody is really bothered about, not even celeron55 |
| 09:36 |
Shara |
I find it pretty disheartening myself |
| 09:37 |
shivajiva |
the lack of pushing security issues and letting them stagnate will see me leave this project, no doubt |
| 09:39 |
Shara |
For me at least, servers seem to get more and more difficult to maintain, unless you are happy to run an anarchy server |
| 09:39 |
shivajiva |
it's not that the issues are not picked up, it's what happens after they are....bit of arguing and closed PR's |
| 09:39 |
tenplus1 |
you got pr link |
| 09:42 |
Shara |
And before anyone just tells me to get more moderators - that isn't the issue |
| 09:42 |
tenplus1 |
lol, am not gonna say that, I just wanna see pull request |
| 09:42 |
Shara |
no, wasn't expecting you to Ten. You've seen how I run my servers, but it seems to be the default response any time this gets raised |
| 09:44 |
shivajiva |
one for noclip #3894 |
| 09:49 |
tenplus1 |
I like the fast detection and reset part |
| 09:49 |
tenplus1 |
as for fly, that's gonna be a doozy to figure |
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| 09:50 |
tenplus1 |
hi fixer |
| 09:52 |
Fixer |
hi |
| 09:52 |
rdococ |
yay! the fixer! |
| 09:53 |
tenplus1 |
hi rdococ |
| 09:53 |
* rdococ |
needs new ideas for mOdS |
| 09:54 |
* Shara |
has too many ideas for mods |
| 09:54 |
rdococ |
Shara: just list a random one then :P (preferably one that I would be able to do :P) |
| 09:54 |
tenplus1 |
ehehehe, rdococ - do the chisel mod... it adds decorative block alternatives to normal blocks with the chisel used to select decorative replacement |
| 09:54 |
Shara |
rdococ: Not sure what your abilities are :D |
| 09:55 |
rdococ |
tenplus1: I think there's already a circular saw mod... |
| 09:55 |
rdococ |
Shara: true, heh |
| 09:55 |
tenplus1 |
that cuts same blocks into shapes |
| 09:55 |
tenplus1 |
chisel lets you replace say stone with decorative stone |
| 09:55 |
Shara |
ENgraving tool could be nice... works on blocks already placed |
| 09:55 |
tenplus1 |
http://www.mc-mod.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/chisel-07-750x607.png |
| 09:55 |
tenplus1 |
theres an example |
| 09:55 |
rdococ |
eh |
| 09:55 |
tenplus1 |
place block in upper left and it gives you selections to chisel it into :D |
| 10:02 |
tenplus1 |
am gonna increase the suffocation damage in Xanadu so it hurts players even with good armor... that way anyone trying to noclip into solid objects without the priv will die quick :PP |
| 10:02 |
Shara |
Problem is, to get through walls you only need less than a second |
| 10:04 |
tenplus1 |
true :P |
| 10:11 |
rdococ |
there's a clientside protection mod to prevent that kind of thing |
| 10:12 |
tenplus1 |
we'll end up building so many anti-cheat checkers into the engine that it'll slow things down |
| 10:14 |
* rdococ |
looks up the client-side lua API |
| 10:25 |
rdococ |
hm. how to determine if the mod is being run by server/client? |
| 10:25 |
tenplus1 |
we need settings server side to determine this and disable it |
| 10:31 |
Shara |
It needs to be server side, and not a mod |
| 10:31 |
tenplus1 |
+10000000000 |
| 10:33 |
rdococ |
the clientside protection mod I mentioned doesn't suffer from the same lag as the serverside protection mod, so glitching requires very fast hands and blocks that break very quickly |
| 10:34 |
tenplus1 |
sounds good but like shara said, would need to be run from server itself onto client... |
| 10:34 |
rdococ |
true |
| 10:34 |
Shara |
rdococ: we can't force people to run any specific thing on their client. They are already modifying the clients to "cheat". That's the exact problem |
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| 10:35 |
tenplus1 |
unless a server can have full control of client run mods then it's useless to me |
| 10:35 |
tenplus1 |
hi cx384 |
| 10:35 |
cx384 |
hi |
| 10:35 |
Shara |
and there are issues with giving that control to the server as well |
| 10:35 |
tenplus1 |
how so ? |
| 10:36 |
Shara |
Would you like if a server could force any code it wanted to your client? |
| 10:36 |
Shara |
I assume it would be sandboxed anyway, but it would only take a hole somewhere for aserver to be able to send you something malicious |
| 10:36 |
rdococ |
the code is heavily sandboxed according to the api |
| 10:36 |
tenplus1 |
if I wanted to push playerplus to run on client to lessen cycles on server then that's a good thing |
| 10:36 |
Shara |
rdococ: what is a flaw is found in that at some point? |
| 10:36 |
tenplus1 |
but if you take the piss and have client do a LOT it slows them down and they wont wanna play on your server |
| 10:36 |
tenplus1 |
you give and take |
| 10:36 |
Shara |
what if* |
| 10:37 |
Shara |
Everyone thought WE was "safe" for such a long time after all... holes do get found. |
| 10:37 |
Shara |
I'm not saying it's an outright reason not to have it, just that it's something to think about |
| 10:38 |
Shara |
I seem to recall others made this point as well |
| 10:45 |
Raven262 |
Hello tenplus1 |
| 10:45 |
Raven262 |
Hi Shara |
| 10:45 |
tenplus1 |
hiraven |
| 10:45 |
Shara |
Hi Raven262 |
| 10:45 |
tenplus1 |
brb |
| 10:53 |
tenplus1 |
bk |
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tenplus1 |
wb DS |
| 10:57 |
DS-minetest |
thx |
| 11:03 |
rdococ |
hi DS |
| 11:04 |
DS-minetest |
hi |
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| 11:30 |
tenplus1 |
hi Megaf |
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| 11:34 |
tenplus1 |
hi thomas |
| 11:34 |
ThomasMonroe |
hi |
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| 11:37 |
tenplus1 |
hi Jordach |
| 11:41 |
Megaf |
Hi all |
| 11:41 |
* Megaf |
roars |
| 11:43 |
* tenplus1 |
pours (another coffeee( |
| 11:45 |
Megaf |
Dont you hate when you buy a broken expensive multimeter for cheap and then it works flawlessly? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4_iRB2DIW8 |
| 11:45 |
Megaf |
!title |
| 11:45 |
ShadowBot |
Megaf: Error: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 4KB. |
| 11:45 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 11:45 |
Megaf |
EEVblog #1012 - Ebay Fluke 8842A |
| 11:48 |
Megaf |
meh, I lost my domain name for my blog |
| 11:48 |
Megaf |
Im fucked |
| 11:48 |
tenplus1 |
which domain? |
| 11:48 |
Megaf |
http://megaf.info |
| 11:49 |
tenplus1 |
aw |
| 11:52 |
Megaf |
I cant even complain about wordpress |
| 11:52 |
Megaf |
they sent me an email on 22 June and another on 02 of July |
| 11:52 |
Megaf |
and another on 12 of July |
| 11:59 |
Megaf |
I cant believe that, it is forcing me to upgrade to premium to add my domain again |
| 11:59 |
tenplus1 |
thats how they get you |
| 11:59 |
Megaf |
I already fucking paid again the renewal of my domain using the link on my email |
| 12:00 |
tenplus1 |
your in the right, log dates and payment and contact them with that, I bet they'll fix it soon enough |
| 12:03 |
Megaf |
and why the heck when I click "Contact us" it goes to ask in the forums!? |
| 12:04 |
tenplus1 |
sounds like a scam |
| 12:05 |
Megaf |
"We care about your happiness! |
| 12:05 |
Megaf |
They don't call us Happiness Engineers for nothing. If you need help, we're here for you!" |
| 12:05 |
Megaf |
still dont know how to reach them |
| 12:05 |
Megaf |
just the public forums |
| 12:06 |
Jordach |
Megaf, just fucking transfer the control to another registrar |
| 12:07 |
Megaf |
Jordach, my resgistrar is another one |
| 12:07 |
Megaf |
but in order to cname or a record your own domain in a wordpress.com account you have to pay wordpress and annual fee |
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| 12:17 |
Megaf |
I need more coffee |
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| 14:02 |
Fixer |
JUST ONE MORE YEAR AND YOU WILL BE NAPPY |
| 14:02 |
Fixer |
HAPPY* |
| 14:02 |
ThomasMonroe |
nappy? |
| 14:03 |
ThomasMonroe |
i rarely take naps as it is |
| 14:08 |
Megaf |
My roomate just had an epileptic attack |
| 14:08 |
Megaf |
:( |
| 14:09 |
Megaf |
So you guys know it it happens to anyone close to you, don't hold the person |
| 14:09 |
Megaf |
just remove things around the person so he/she doesnt hurt himself/herself |
| 14:09 |
benrob0329 |
Good to know, thanks |
| 14:09 |
Megaf |
and tell them it's ok |
| 14:10 |
Megaf |
after some time the person will come back |
| 14:10 |
Megaf |
very confused |
| 14:10 |
Fixer |
Megaf: and smth about mouth iirc |
| 14:10 |
Megaf |
so you and the person just have to stay calm |
| 14:10 |
Megaf |
forget the mouth |
| 14:10 |
Megaf |
just keep the person on his side |
| 14:11 |
Fixer |
i've seen that too |
| 14:11 |
Fixer |
IRL |
| 14:11 |
Megaf |
dont give water or anything, just stay beside the person and show that everything is ok |
| 14:11 |
Megaf |
maybe as somebody else to calmly call emergency |
| 14:11 |
Fixer |
person with that problem I seen probably drinked a lot of alcohol before that |
| 14:12 |
Megaf |
yep, too much alcohol leads to very low sugar, very low sugar can cause a convulsion |
| 14:13 |
Megaf |
It might take a couple of hours for the person to come back and recover, maybe less maybe more, in this time, dont try to talk to much, |
| 14:13 |
Megaf |
maybe contact family |
| 14:13 |
Megaf |
remember the person might be feeling super ashamed, embarassed and confused at the same time |
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| 17:03 |
CWz |
i remember back in the golden days that mice had three buttons and no scroller |
| 17:04 |
CWz |
i wonder what the middle one did |
| 17:06 |
Megaf |
I had one of those |
| 17:07 |
Megaf |
I had those with two buttons only, and serial |
| 17:07 |
VanessaE |
in Unix systems it has probably always acted as "paste". |
| 17:07 |
Megaf |
and had to reboot to make it work |
| 17:07 |
Megaf |
but I still can feel the delay, latency of USB mice |
| 17:07 |
Megaf |
nothing is faster than a serial/ps2 analogic mouse |
| 17:07 |
VanessaE |
false... |
| 17:08 |
VanessaE |
serial is limited to to 115k or so |
| 17:08 |
Megaf |
you move it, it generates the signal instantly and sends an interrupt |
| 17:08 |
Megaf |
in USB you OS have to keep asking, "Hey USB devices, whatcha doing?" |
| 17:08 |
VanessaE |
you sure about that? |
| 17:08 |
Megaf |
and then the USB mouse has to answer "Im moving to this side this much" |
| 17:08 |
VanessaE |
last I checked, USB devices were event-driven |
| 17:09 |
Megaf |
thats called polling interval? maybe |
| 17:09 |
VanessaE |
only if the OS explicitly asks yeah |
| 17:09 |
Megaf |
you can even change that the sys virtual FS to make your mouse more responsive |
| 17:09 |
VanessaE |
but I highly doubt that's still in use today |
| 17:10 |
VanessaE |
"A USB mouse generally emulates a PS2 mouse, except that it generates IRQs from the USB bus," |
| 17:11 |
VanessaE |
(that's from a wiki page for bochs, the virtual machine) |
| 17:11 |
Megaf |
hm |
| 17:11 |
Megaf |
but this emulation perhaps still depends on polling frequency? |
| 17:11 |
VanessaE |
you're probably thinking of PS/2 mice |
| 17:11 |
ThomasMonroe_ |
hey VE |
| 17:11 |
VanessaE |
hi. |
| 17:12 |
sofar |
so interestingly, most USB mice nowadays only send click events as an interrupt |
| 17:12 |
sofar |
mouse movement does not send an interrupt |
| 17:12 |
VanessaE |
plus, Megaf serial is far slower than the slowest USB speed |
| 17:12 |
VanessaE |
as in 115 to 230kbps versus I think 1.5-ish Mbps |
| 17:13 |
Megaf |
but what about latency? You dont need 1 gpbs to react to a signal |
| 17:13 |
VanessaE |
the faster your serial rate, the lower the latency is going to be, by definition |
| 17:13 |
Megaf |
I remember playing games using joysticks attached to MIDI port |
| 17:13 |
Megaf |
even on AMD K6-2 at 233MHz |
| 17:14 |
Megaf |
instantaneous reactions, no latency at all |
| 17:14 |
VanessaE |
can't be "instantaneous" |
| 17:14 |
Megaf |
same for 100% analogic mice on PS2 (not so sure in reality about serial) |
| 17:14 |
Megaf |
and when using anything USB, I can always "feel"/perceive the latency |
| 17:15 |
Megaf |
by the wat https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/mouse_polling_rate#USB_device_speed |
| 17:15 |
Megaf |
way* |
| 17:15 |
VanessaE |
it takes a few hundred bits to send a mouse event, so at best you could expect 1k events per second max with a serial mouse |
| 17:15 |
VanessaE |
with a USB mouse a 1kb packet at 1.5 MB/sec means 1500 events/second |
| 17:16 |
VanessaE |
(assuming 1k, I don't know the packet size) |
| 17:16 |
VanessaE |
s/MB/mb/ |
| 17:16 |
sofar |
mouse events are tiny |
| 17:16 |
sofar |
a few bytes |
| 17:16 |
VanessaE |
right |
| 17:16 |
sofar |
with headers and all I don't think it makes 32 bytes total |
| 17:17 |
VanessaE |
I wasn't sure about the serial equivalent, been ages since I looked at it. |
| 17:17 |
VanessaE |
Megaf: placebo effect :) |
| 17:17 |
VanessaE |
or shitty drivers |
| 17:31 |
CWz |
is PS2 mouse better or shittier than USB mouse |
| 17:33 |
CWz |
Shittier I C |
| 17:36 |
CWz |
Is it me or is the playerbase on VanessaE's server getting dumber by the month |
| 17:36 |
VanessaE |
sometimes feels that way. |
| 17:36 |
CWz |
they will all flunk out of collage for sure |
| 17:37 |
CWz |
just like those pvp agressive guys who will grow up to be carrier criminas |
| 17:38 |
CWz |
and those griefer will form terrorist groups |
| 17:39 |
Shara |
Are you sure it's not the player base in general? |
| 17:40 |
CWz |
Maybe :) i know lots of players walk into lava |
| 17:40 |
Shara |
RC had lots of... "noisy" players last night. |
| 17:41 |
CWz |
probably sons and daughters of crackhead parents |
| 17:41 |
Shara |
And the number of players who think typing "cry" will get them admin attention seems to have gone up |
| 17:41 |
CWz |
Yup hurhurhurhur |
| 17:41 |
* CWz |
walks into lava |
| 17:41 |
* Shara |
strolls lemming style off a cliff |
| 17:46 |
CWz |
Nooooo |
| 17:46 |
* CWz |
walks after Shara |
| 17:47 |
Shara |
cry? |
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tenplus1 |
hi folks |
| 18:32 |
ThomasMonroe_ |
hi |
| 18:32 |
tenplus1 |
o/ Thomas |
| 18:33 |
ThomasMonroe_ |
hey tenplus1 im updating the exoticores textures for lonsdaleite |
| 18:34 |
tenplus1 |
kewl, adding anything fancy ? |
| 18:34 |
ThomasMonroe_ |
gold trimming |
| 18:34 |
tenplus1 |
ooh |
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tenplus1 |
hi Megaf |
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tenplus1 |
s'up Bob |
| 18:40 |
Bobr2 |
ty |
| 18:41 |
Megaf |
LXDE is goood |
| 18:42 |
tenplus1 |
+100 on LXDE :P |
| 18:42 |
tenplus1 |
just updated laptop to Lubuntu 17.10 |
| 18:42 |
Megaf |
real time kernel and lxde, its a rocket |
| 18:42 |
tenplus1 |
and I hear final release in Oct. will use kernel 4.13 |
| 18:42 |
Megaf |
not fast, but responsive |
| 18:42 |
tenplus1 |
hehehe |
| 18:42 |
Bobr2 |
madness thats whats up |
| 18:42 |
Megaf |
I wish my laptop had PS2 connectors |
| 18:43 |
tenplus1 |
you can easily get usb -> ps/2 |
| 18:43 |
Megaf |
but then latency will be the same or grater than USB mouse |
| 18:43 |
Megaf |
wouldnt it? |
| 18:43 |
tenplus1 |
ahh, gotcha |
| 18:43 |
tenplus1 |
cant you tweak a setting to increase that ? |
| 18:43 |
Megaf |
Assuming PS2 is indeed more respnsive |
| 18:45 |
lisac |
Hey tenplus1 |
| 18:45 |
tenplus1 |
hi lisac |
| 18:45 |
Bobr2 |
btw just a warning to server admins player going around running script hacking servers under the name as CrazyCraft |
| 18:45 |
tenplus1 |
Mobs Redo API updated (pathfinding level2 liquid drop fixed, also few other local fixes) |
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tenplus1 |
hi twoelk |
| 18:51 |
twoelk |
hi |
| 18:57 |
tenplus1 |
Megaf: Try changing the theme to ThinIce and see how much quicker gtk2 apps redraw :D |
| 18:58 |
Megaf |
Noto Sans UI 8, beautiful with ThinIce and LXDE |
| 18:58 |
tenplus1 |
am using Ubuntu Mono 9 |
| 19:05 |
tenplus1 |
any chance of a player setting to make player model physical = true |
| 19:08 |
benrob0329 |
Just a heads up: I may be leaving YouTube with recent curation AI and YouTube TV news and being a Vidme Only creator |
| 19:09 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 19:09 |
tenplus1 |
hi Cal |
| 19:09 |
tenplus1 |
what happened benrob ? |
| 19:11 |
Calinou |
more work on my Quake map: https://lut.im/bjJlvEVKDs/L6JUgz19cmHSKpey.png |
| 19:11 |
Calinou |
also, 1128 views on my video already: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6XBi4_N5YM |
| 19:11 |
tenplus1 |
ooh |
| 19:11 |
benrob0329 |
tenplus1: https://vid.me/vyosh |
| 19:12 |
benrob0329 |
Google has no good plans for YouTube, and I don't want to support a platform that throws its own creators under the bus |
| 19:12 |
tenplus1 |
gawd, youtube is only screwing themselves out of viewers |
| 19:13 |
rdococ |
eh? |
| 19:15 |
tenplus1 |
so much for free speech |
| 19:20 |
Calinou |
free speech is not really a thing with today's tech megacorps :P |
| 19:20 |
tenplus1 |
true, they have too much power |
| 19:20 |
benrob0329 |
Vid.me FTW! |
| 19:20 |
tenplus1 |
everyone is entitled to an opinion, no wonder so many youtube folk switch to patreon to fund their voices |
| 19:21 |
tenplus1 |
I kinda forgot I had a vidme account :P |
| 19:22 |
lisac |
Calinou, is that video real time rendered? |
| 19:22 |
benrob0329 |
A lot of YTbers are joining Vidme, so that's cool |
| 19:22 |
lisac |
and if so, on what hardware? |
| 19:23 |
Calinou |
lisac: yes! |
| 19:23 |
Calinou |
GTX 1080 |
| 19:23 |
lisac |
oh right, GTX 1080 |
| 19:23 |
tenplus1 |
nice |
| 19:23 |
lisac |
nice :D |
| 19:23 |
Calinou |
(and i7-6700K, 32 GB RAM) |
| 19:23 |
tenplus1 |
windows or linux ? |
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* benrob0329 |
thinks about switching to AMD |
| 19:23 |
Calinou |
Windows 10, but you can have the same visuals and performance on Linux (with the proprietary driver) |
| 19:24 |
Calinou |
benrob0329: NVIDIA still has the technically superior cards today, but AMD's open source drivers are ok now |
| 19:24 |
benrob0329 |
Nvidia's drivers are a huge pain, and Intel's history is...not enlightening |
| 19:24 |
benrob0329 |
And current practices, actually |
| 19:24 |
tenplus1 |
I think that my next desktop will have AMD/Ati installe |
| 19:25 |
Calinou |
Intel has decent Linux drivers, they're just too slow hardware-wise |
| 19:25 |
Calinou |
you should be happy that you can even play some 3D games with them, this used to not be the case at all! |
| 19:25 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
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benrob0329 |
They do, but always try to bribe other companies into not using AMD processors |
| 19:26 |
Calinou |
in 2010, it was unthinkable to run a game like Enemy Territory at 1920×1080 with everything maxed |
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Calinou |
(at 60 FPS) |
| 19:26 |
tenplus1 |
heh |
| 19:26 |
benrob0329 |
https://youtu.be/osSMJRyxG0k |
| 19:26 |
benrob0329 |
For a full history of intel |
| 19:27 |
benrob0329 |
>tenplusone upvotes 2 of your videos |
| 19:27 |
benrob0329 |
*upvoted |
| 19:27 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 19:27 |
benrob0329 |
:D |
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tenplus1 |
ya make good videos dude :P |
| 19:28 |
Calinou |
someone downvoted my video :'( |
| 19:28 |
Calinou |
I used to have 0 downvotes |
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benrob0329 |
I need to work on that 100 (and 20) subscriber special :P |
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benrob0329 |
Im hoping blender 2.8 comes out so that I can use eeVee (realtime renderer) |
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tenplus1 |
ooh |
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Calinou |
Godot 3.0 can produce visuals close to Blender Eevee :P |
| 19:29 |
tenplus1 |
Xanadu is using the new mushroom spread pull request and it's working perfectly :D |
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Calinou |
I have 5 subscribers! :D |
| 19:30 |
tenplus1 |
hi paramat |
| 19:31 |
Shara |
Hi paramat |
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tenplus1 |
am watching "The Rhythm of Red Cat" again :DDD |
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benrob0329 |
Calinou: yes, but isnt as nice to animate in |
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benrob0329 |
Afaik |
| 19:32 |
Calinou |
yes, Godot isn't made for animation |
| 19:32 |
Calinou |
alas, it can't replace Source FilmMaker yet |
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* Calinou |
hides |
| 19:32 |
tenplus1 |
wait, it cannot use animated entities ?? |
| 19:33 |
Calinou |
you can't move bones/etc in Godot itself |
| 19:33 |
benrob0329 |
It can, but it cant do full animated shorts n such |
| 19:33 |
benrob0329 |
I mean you could...buy |
| 19:33 |
tenplus1 |
oh |
| 19:33 |
benrob0329 |
*but |
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benrob0329 |
Itd be a pain |
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benrob0329 |
I had some work done on it, but I really need to write a script that isnt going to kill me trying to do it |
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tenplus1 |
wb |
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cx384 |
thank you tenplus1 |
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tenplus1 |
nite folks |
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paramat |
i care about improving anticheat :] unfotunately it's an area of code i have little ability in, otherwise i would be working on it. i might ask nerzhul since he seems less busy in MT now |
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Shara |
paramat: Thank you |
| 20:18 |
Shara |
With this, I think any effort at all is appreciated |
| 20:18 |
paramat |
it does matter to c55, the fact he would consider working on it at all shows that, as he 'officially' does not dev for MT anymore :] |
| 20:19 |
paramat |
i suspect some other devs care too, but are too busy to work on MT currently |
| 20:19 |
Shara |
I do hope someone can take a look at this |
| 20:19 |
paramat |
nerz is good with client-network-server stuff so .. |
| 20:22 |
paramat |
increase in bad players is probably related to rising popularity of smartphone use, it's 80% of MT clients i think |
| 20:22 |
Shara |
I feel like the number of players in general has gone up, at least on my servers. |
| 20:23 |
paramat |
not generalising, but on average they are probably more troublesome |
| 20:23 |
Shara |
But the bad ones get noticed more. |
| 20:23 |
Calinou |
the mobile Minetest port opened a can of worms :( |
| 20:24 |
Shara |
Had all caps spam and people swearing at each other to deal with last night. |
| 20:24 |
Shara |
Moderators pick them off fairly quickly at least :) |
| 20:27 |
benrob0329 |
WHAT DO YOU MEAN I SHOULD STOP YELLING? |
| 20:27 |
benrob0329 |
YELLING IS LOVE, YELLING IS LIFE! |
| 20:28 |
paramat |
and of course smartphone users tend to be younger which is fine, but need more looking after |
| 20:28 |
Shara |
I don't mind looking after them... I do mind all caps swearing :) |
| 20:30 |
Calinou |
I AM MARRIED TO MY CAPS LOCK KEY |
| 20:31 |
paramat |
I AM SITTING ON IT |
| 20:32 |
sofar |
that must be painful |
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paramat |
Shara you got this too i believe? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6197 anything to add? |
| 20:42 |
Shara |
paramat: SOunds like exactly the same issue that was reported on Dark Lands |
| 20:43 |
Fixer |
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=glibc-malloc-thread-cache |
| 20:43 |
paramat |
yeah, weird it only happens around y = 0 |
| 20:43 |
Shara |
Yes, could never figure it out exactly. On some tests at the same height it didn't happen for me. |
| 20:44 |
Shara |
Hmm. |
| 20:44 |
Shara |
I think this was sneak related somewhat |
| 20:45 |
Shara |
People could free themselves once old movement was enabled |
| 20:45 |
paramat |
we could try adjusting the collisionboxes, as they're just a little higher than a half-slab |
| 20:46 |
paramat |
make them slightly higher |
| 20:46 |
Shara |
I might hav e aplay around with this to try and understand it again |
| 20:46 |
paramat |
or lower |
| 20:46 |
paramat |
it might be similar to how walking onto a low slab under a low ceiling can trap you |
| 20:47 |
Shara |
Testing to see if I can duplicate |
| 20:48 |
paramat |
did your bug happen for fancy and simple beds? |
| 20:48 |
Shara |
Just replied there, but yes |
| 20:49 |
paramat |
just saw it, thanks |
| 20:50 |
Shara |
I think on DL the height was -1 |
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Shara |
paramat: You can get onto the bed from the sides of the bottom, but not from the head |
| 20:56 |
Shara |
So maybe working out why the head is different could help |
| 20:56 |
paramat |
ok yeah |
| 20:56 |
paramat |
the bottom has a 2-node selectionbox, the top has none |
| 20:57 |
Shara |
The bed itself has two nodes... so six places you can try to enter from.. 5/6 get you trapped |
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paramat |
you're testing in singleplayer 0.4.16 stable? |
| 21:02 |
Shara |
Yes |
| 21:03 |
Shara |
If you have old move code, you can just tap shift to free yourself. |
| 21:04 |
Shara |
THough it seems that depends on a few things.. so even that isn't reliable |
| 21:09 |
lisac |
hey forum mods, will you move my mod from WIP to releases? I made a post a while ago |
| 21:09 |
lisac |
6 days ago. |
| 21:14 |
paramat |
confirmed, it's just like how a slab can do the same thing |
| 21:16 |
benrob0329 |
(Offtopic) https://vid.me/eMlfl |
| 21:16 |
paramat |
yes a slab does the same but only at the specific height |
| 21:17 |
paramat |
snow slab too |
| 21:38 |
Shara |
Weird that it's only at those heights... |
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Fixer |
-- FIREFOX |
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Fixer |
1.8gb of ram |
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paramat |
good, found the cause, just need to decide on the best fix |
