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https://github.com/oamldev/oaml |
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!title |
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ShadowBot |
GitHub - oamldev/oaml: Open Adaptive Music Library. |
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IhrFussel |
Bash question: Can anyone tell me why abc is ZERO after the loop? abc=0; while read data; do echo $data; abc=1; done < moderators.txt | sort -R; echo $abc |
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Calinou |
IhrFussel: maybe ask in ##workingset |
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Calinou |
which is a channel dedicated to POSIX tools, not very active though |
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IhrFussel |
Calinou, I got my answer... if you run a loop with a pipe (|) it will run the entire code in a subshell and the mother code will never get the updated value |
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IhrFussel |
Laterz^^ |
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IhrFussel |
Wait are you telling me old clients do NOT handle colored messages correctly until the PR gets merged?! |
| 12:10 |
red-001 |
apprently |
| 12:11 |
Jordach |
have you ever wondered how this project even works sometime |
| 12:11 |
red-001 |
not sure who though that was a good idea |
| 12:11 |
Jordach |
devs not testing as an actual game |
| 12:11 |
Jordach |
hint fucking hint |
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red-001 |
apprently instead of just using a protocol bump someone decided to instead implement a speical solution for this |
| 12:12 |
Jordach |
red-001, core devs sometimes need a slap round the face, shame TCP/IP doesn't support it |
| 12:12 |
IhrFussel |
Thank fu**ing god I can implement that myself by just stripping the color if the client has protocol version < 27 |
| 12:12 |
red-001 |
which obviously didn't even work or really make sense |
| 12:13 |
red-001 |
sometimes I think some of the devs are actively afraid of protocol bumps |
| 12:14 |
red-001 |
thank god that we have finnaly learned to use protocol bumps in a meaningful way |
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* Jordach |
doesn't think so |
| 12:16 |
IhrFussel |
red-001, if minetest.get_player_information(tuser).protocol_version < 27 then bcmsg = minetest.strip_colors(bcmsg) end << will this work? |
| 12:18 |
red-001 |
I think so |
| 12:18 |
red-001 |
I don't think it will take too long for the PR to be merged into core through |
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red-001 |
right now the best thing you can do I overwrite minetest.chat_send_all with a custom function |
| 12:19 |
red-001 |
s/I/is |
| 12:20 |
IhrFussel |
I cannot compile every time something has been merged..I modified builtin HEAVILY...each time I update I have to save the modified chatcommands.lua, misc.lua and other files and replace them after compiling |
| 12:21 |
red-001 |
make a seperate directory for compiling minetest and fetching new source code and then just copy the binary? |
| 12:21 |
red-001 |
that will work unless core is updated a needs a new version of builtin to work |
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Fixer |
https://www.gamedev.net/topic/666419-what-are-your-opinions-on-dx12vulkanmantle/#entry5215019 |
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Fixer |
Jordach: there are server owners that use latest dev and players that use dev, and some of them bugreport |
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Jordach |
Fixer, those people i like |
| 12:38 |
nerzhul |
personnaly i'm not afraid about protocol bumps, but many coredevs doesn't like them because of retrocompat we have |
| 12:39 |
nerzhul |
it's due to legacy terror era where retrocompat should be done from 2011 code to 2016. But it's finished, now we support 2 years. |
| 12:40 |
nerzhul |
IhrFussel: you are free to propose patch too help us, many coredevs are busy these days, look at the commit log to find who :p |
| 12:41 |
nerzhul |
also many coredevs are student (except celeron55 Zeno and me i think all others are students if i remember) and it's June, then exams |
| 12:42 |
nerzhul |
and we are not paid for anything, we do it in our free time and it's not easy to do some change, core is complexe and some parts wasn't modified since years and original authors left project |
| 12:43 |
IhrFussel |
nerzhul, you should NEVER merge a feature without testing it extensively IMO...that includes old clients as well |
| 12:43 |
nerzhul |
these days i'm focused on C++11 cleanups and a new network protocol stack more powerful which can handle hundreds of clients (serverthread cannot but the networkthread should) |
| 12:43 |
nerzhul |
i don't know what you are talking about |
| 12:43 |
IhrFussel |
You say you support 2 year old clients then you need to check features on those too |
| 12:44 |
nerzhul |
but i'm .. tired of raging guys which either rage without issue on GH or seems to have solution and dosn't propose PR |
| 12:44 |
nerzhul |
it's done IhrFussel , please don't tell shit, you don't know, it seems just this feature wasn't verifiedd |
| 12:45 |
IhrFussel |
I'm talking about the fact that old clients apparently don't handle colored messages correctly...that could've been prevented if you also tested any new feature on old clients |
| 12:45 |
nerzhul |
yes, it's one bug it seems |
| 12:46 |
nerzhul |
then fixing and stop cry. |
| 12:46 |
IhrFussel |
That's not my point: you HAVE TO test features on any client version you currently support...that is how development with BC usually works |
| 12:46 |
nerzhul |
we are always doing compat, but in very rare case a case can be omited, we are all human |
| 12:47 |
nerzhul |
what is bc ? |
| 12:47 |
nerzhul |
bullshitcry ? |
| 12:47 |
IhrFussel |
Backwards Compatibility |
| 12:47 |
nerzhul |
we know how backward compat work, but bugs happen sometimes ! |
| 12:47 |
nerzhul |
stop thinking you know better, if you know better PR and help. that's all |
| 12:49 |
IhrFussel |
I'm not claiming to be a core dev/contributor so that's not my responsibility ... I am just a server owners who's sometimes concerned about the stability of the engine |
| 12:49 |
nerzhul |
PR != coredev |
| 12:50 |
IhrFussel |
I am no C++ coder so I can't submit any PRs about C++ code obviously |
| 12:50 |
nerzhul |
ok |
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cx384 |
hi |
| 12:51 |
nerzhul |
i'm also concerned by stabilty of the engine, just look at how many bugs we fixed in this release. Regression are part of any software, every dev prevent that to happen, and we have 2 coredev review on each PR from external contributor, which permits to fix majority of pr without problems |
| 12:51 |
Calinou |
IhrFussel: how many voluntary testers do we have? |
| 12:51 |
Calinou |
Linux distributions have few already; we probably have zero |
| 12:52 |
IhrFussel |
I didn't try to callout the devs on their "poor work" or something...yes bugs happen and we are all just human, but that is a pretty big mistake that happened so I think I am allowed to be concerned |
| 12:52 |
nerzhul |
Calinou: in fact we have testers after release whereas we told us 2 weeks before release to help us releasing and bugfix. SOme users play the game but they are rare |
| 12:52 |
Fixer |
thats why minetest should release often |
| 12:52 |
Fixer |
:trollface: |
| 12:52 |
Calinou |
nerzhul: yeah, and not all of them report the testing results (bugs) |
| 12:53 |
Calinou |
Fixer: I agree, frequent releases are almost always better, but releasing is at least 1 day of full-time work |
| 12:53 |
nerzhul |
Calinou: sometimes they fix it themselves by doing crap on their server and after fix and release they cry because they crap fix break because we fix it :p |
| 12:53 |
Calinou |
however, keeping compatibility for 2 years sounds very long to me |
| 12:53 |
Calinou |
most software I know supports only the current version (n), or n-1 version |
| 12:53 |
Calinou |
maybe n-2 sometimes, and that's it |
| 12:53 |
Fixer |
Calinou: debian :trollface: |
| 12:54 |
Calinou |
yeah but if you start caring about Debian... :P |
| 12:54 |
nerzhul |
mt quality has improved over releases. Calinou 2 years is long to me too, but we have linux distro schemes based on 2 years |
| 12:54 |
nerzhul |
Centos & Debian & Ubuntu LTS |
| 12:54 |
nerzhul |
then all real distros |
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nerzhul |
red-001: sorry i forgot one comment on the strip PR |
| 13:30 |
Jordach |
wooooot |
| 13:30 |
Jordach |
internet finally back to 160mbit speeds again |
| 13:31 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/yWdTx9g.png |
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Fixer |
nerzhul: mtg needs "great leap" as well %) |
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cx384 |
I released my inventorybags mod. What do you think? https://forum.minetest.net/posting.php?mode=edit&f=9&p=276153 |
| 13:47 |
cx384 |
* https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=17847 |
| 13:49 |
* DS-minetest |
will test |
| 13:49 |
nerzhul |
lol i read inventoryballs |
| 13:49 |
nerzhul |
:p |
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cx384 |
:D |
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DS-minetest |
nice! |
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cx384 |
Thank you! |
| 13:59 |
nerzhul |
wtf : https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=7819&start=75 |
| 14:00 |
cx384 |
nice |
| 14:01 |
Calinou |
a few years ago, I saw a 10-year bump to the day on a forum |
| 14:01 |
nerzhul |
lol |
| 14:01 |
Calinou |
there's post made in 2002, someone bumps it in 2012 |
| 14:01 |
Calinou |
exact same day |
| 14:04 |
nerzhul |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4 |
| 14:04 |
nerzhul |
wow i don't found more old thread :p |
| 14:06 |
Fixer |
4 month later i started my first thread |
| 14:06 |
Fixer |
bugreport one |
| 14:06 |
Calinou |
lol, getsatisfaction.com |
| 14:06 |
Calinou |
I remember that... site |
| 14:08 |
Fixer |
Calinou: *Benny Benassi plays in background* |
| 14:10 |
Fixer |
"hello what is the license of mtg 0.4.8 textures" |
| 14:10 |
Fixer |
almost 4 years ago |
| 14:10 |
Fixer |
._____. |
| 14:11 |
nerzhul |
Windows daily builds are now enabled on gitlab.com: https://gitlab.com/minetest/minetest/pipelines/8888928 |
| 14:11 |
Calinou |
someone just has nostalgia? :D |
| 14:11 |
Calinou |
nerzhul: nice! |
| 14:11 |
Calinou |
also for 64-bit! :) |
| 14:11 |
Calinou |
can they be downloaded? |
| 14:12 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 14:12 |
nerzhul |
yes |
| 14:12 |
nerzhul |
https://gitlab.com/minetest/minetest/pipelines |
| 14:12 |
nerzhul |
click on the last pipeline download entry you have them listed |
| 14:12 |
Calinou |
I'll give win32/win64 a try |
| 14:12 |
Calinou |
which optional dependencies are supported in it? |
| 14:12 |
nerzhul |
i hope this fucking debian 9 container will stop failing to download its packages perimtting pipeline to be stable, i don't want to fix the container repository in the gitlab-ci.yml to prevent that xD |
| 14:13 |
nerzhul |
same as sfan5 i think no ? |
| 14:13 |
nerzhul |
it's the mt repository buildbot.sh script |
| 14:13 |
Calinou |
both win32 and win64 seem to work fine |
| 14:14 |
nerzhul |
yes Fixer tested it in early stages before merge :p |
| 14:14 |
nerzhul |
i will think about android daily build at a point, can be nice :p |
| 14:14 |
Calinou |
yeah, that too |
| 14:15 |
nerzhul |
it's a little bit more complex and i didn't tested it since C++11 commits merged |
| 14:15 |
nerzhul |
i think first NDK should be updated, if i remember ndk 9 doesn't support it |
| 14:17 |
Calinou |
how do I increase the hotbar/crosshair size? |
| 14:17 |
Calinou |
inventory size is fine already |
| 14:17 |
Calinou |
looks like crosshair can't be resized without mods :| |
| 14:19 |
nerzhul |
wtf offtopic section on forum |
| 14:21 |
Calinou |
time to nuke it entirely, I guess |
| 14:24 |
Raven262 |
Yes. |
| 14:24 |
Raven262 |
Nuke it. |
| 14:24 |
Raven262 |
It has no purpose. |
| 14:24 |
Raven262 |
Except to spam. |
| 14:25 |
Sokomine |
give those offtopic-users some place to put their...chat. else they'll fill the entire forum... |
| 14:25 |
Sokomine |
something that can easily get ignored :-) |
| 14:25 |
Calinou |
if they do, we just ban them |
| 14:26 |
Sokomine |
they're young and just want to play i think |
| 14:26 |
Calinou |
their attitude clearly deserves long bans |
| 14:26 |
Calinou |
they can be banned for 6 months-1 year, so they'll be more grown up when they come back |
| 14:26 |
Sokomine |
i havn't caught up with most recent events on the forum |
| 14:26 |
Calinou |
right now, they're exploiting forum bugs to make the layout broken in some topics |
| 14:27 |
Raven262 |
Most of them obviously don't realize that forum is a tool, not a toy. |
| 14:28 |
Calinou |
I hope they don't discover Discord :D |
| 14:28 |
Calinou |
some servers are just shitpost heaven |
| 14:28 |
Calinou |
(they probably use it by now, already, though) |
| 14:28 |
Fixer |
Calinou: why it is shitpost heaven? |
| 14:29 |
Raven262 |
Calinou, I actually found discord to be more complicated to use than irc Oo |
| 14:29 |
Calinou |
Raven262: heh, it probably is quite simpler for most users, especially for having offline history |
| 14:29 |
Calinou |
Fixer: some servers are very... meme-y |
| 14:29 |
Calinou |
good servers forbid it entirely, or dedicate it to a single channel, but not all of them do |
| 14:30 |
Fixer |
if only it was open source |
| 14:30 |
ircSparky |
my discord got some people that pasted nazi flags |
| 14:30 |
ircSparky |
:D |
| 14:30 |
Calinou |
yeah, raids are very common depending on the type of server |
| 14:30 |
Calinou |
IRC raids are very rare now, honestly |
| 14:30 |
Calinou |
except on #ubuntu or #freenode, maybe |
| 14:30 |
Raven262 |
What is an irc raid? |
| 14:30 |
Calinou |
some group of people joining and causing trouble |
| 14:30 |
Raven262 |
lol |
| 14:31 |
Raven262 |
I never saw that |
| 14:31 |
Calinou |
on Discord they're easy to see: they all have anime avatars, or Pepes |
| 14:31 |
Calinou |
:) |
| 14:31 |
Raven262 |
xD |
| 14:31 |
ircSparky |
the best part is, their excuse was that someone instigated their spam by saying "hi" multiple times |
| 14:31 |
* Fixer |
looks at sfan 5 |
| 14:31 |
Calinou |
there's antispam/raid bots out there by the way |
| 14:32 |
ircSparky |
yea,i got one after that :P |
| 14:33 |
Fixer |
https://forum.minetest.net/search.php?search_id=active_topics |
| 14:33 |
Calinou |
azekill is on fire, but in a bad way :P |
| 14:33 |
Calinou |
he did 17 posts in 15 minutes |
| 14:33 |
Calinou |
seriously... |
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Raven262 |
Somebody tell him: If you want to make a post ask yourself "Are you the one who should post this?", "Should this be said?", "Is it the right time to say this?" etc. |
| 14:37 |
Raven262 |
And possibly "Does this have any use at all?" |
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benrob0329 |
Calinou: idea, make a voxel sandbox in Godot and name it "Waiting for Minetest" |
| 15:38 |
Jordach |
spicy meme |
| 15:41 |
Jordach |
>patches Skyrim SE to ultrawide |
| 15:41 |
Jordach |
:^) |
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Raven262 |
I have found true that skyrim can be modded until it crashes :P |
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LazyJ |
Looks like there is another reason to keep the anit-cheat enabled. New mobile clients can kill from distances and dig in protected areas. :/ |
| 15:55 |
LazyJ |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=17823 |
| 15:56 |
* red-001 |
waits for more release videos |
| 16:13 |
Jordach |
wat |
| 16:13 |
Jordach |
Minetest should've stayed GPL |
| 16:14 |
red-001 |
ah the good old viral copy right\ |
| 16:17 |
Jordach |
it'd prevented this |
| 16:17 |
Jordach |
with shitty phone apps |
| 16:17 |
Jordach |
a classic case of: you could've prevented this |
| 16:19 |
red-001 |
well then play freeminer |
| 16:19 |
red-001 |
they went full GPL |
| 16:21 |
nerzhul |
LazyJ: seems anticheat is well named |
| 16:22 |
red-001 |
^ |
| 16:23 |
nerzhul |
Jordach: GPLv3 is interesting to protect our code against shit apps , money apps, non sharing code owners etc |
| 16:23 |
nerzhul |
LGPL is lightweight and... minetest is a game not a library |
| 16:24 |
nerzhul |
but anyway, ... |
| 16:28 |
benrob0329 |
#MakeMinetestGplAgain |
| 16:34 |
nerzhul |
minetest was GPL at a point ? |
| 16:36 |
stormchaser3000 |
nerzhul, yes it was. back in minetest 0.3.1 |
| 16:36 |
stormchaser3000 |
GPLv2 |
| 16:38 |
red-001 |
huh |
| 16:38 |
red-001 |
TIL |
| 16:39 |
stormchaser3000 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/0.3.1/doc/gpl-2.0.txt |
| 16:41 |
nerzhul |
erf |
| 16:41 |
nerzhul |
i regret that then :p android killed our user base |
| 16:41 |
nerzhul |
it add number not quality |
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benrob0329 |
Hi Krock |
| 16:52 |
Krock |
hi benrob0329 |
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benrob0329 |
What I want from a license: |
| 17:11 |
benrob0329 |
AS IS |
| 17:11 |
benrob0329 |
Give credit |
| 17:11 |
benrob0329 |
Give source |
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benrob0329 |
What RMS gave us: |
| 17:12 |
benrob0329 |
No iDevices, pain in the ass legalese, and basically his entire agenda |
| 17:14 |
red-001 |
RMS? |
| 17:14 |
nerzhul |
give money drugs and food :p |
| 17:14 |
nerzhul |
Really moo shark |
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benrob0329 |
red-001: Richard Stallman |
| 17:17 |
red-001 |
shouldn't it be RSM then? |
| 17:18 |
nerzhul |
Richard Moo Stallman |
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red-001 |
https://xkcd.com/225/ |
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Krock |
Root Mean Square |
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benrob0329 |
red-001: XDD |
| 17:23 |
red-001 |
thats how I always image stallman |
| 17:26 |
benrob0329 |
Although, Id just sleep with a gun nearby |
| 17:26 |
benrob0329 |
Swords cost too much |
| 17:28 |
Calinou |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=17850 :D |
| 17:29 |
Raven262 |
Watch the offtopic burn :D |
| 17:30 |
Calinou |
Jordach: https://thirteenag.github.io/wfp btw |
| 17:31 |
Calinou |
GTA III fix works here, but GTA VC doesn't, it claims "GTA VC needs DirectX 8.0 to run." |
| 17:31 |
Calinou |
GTA III also does, but starts anyway after that dialog |
| 17:31 |
Calinou |
but GTA VC just quits :( |
| 17:37 |
Fixer |
SECRETS OF MY AGE |
| 17:42 |
benrob0329 |
https://xkcd.com/941/ |
| 17:43 |
Shara |
Hi everyone |
| 17:43 |
stormchaser3000 |
hi shara |
| 17:43 |
benrob0329 |
Hi Shara |
| 17:43 |
Raven262 |
Hello Shara |
| 17:44 |
benrob0329 |
Offtopic is even more of a mess than it was before |
| 17:44 |
* Shara |
dorwns in the hi-storm, but is okay with that. |
| 17:44 |
IhrFussel |
hi Shara xP |
| 17:44 |
Shara |
:P |
| 17:44 |
shivajiva |
Hi Shara, Storm, Benrob, Raven, Calinou, Fixer, Krock, nerzhul and everyone else ;) |
| 17:45 |
stormchaser3000 |
hi shivajiva |
| 17:45 |
Shara |
What did I begin?! |
| 17:45 |
Shara |
Hi shivajiva :) |
| 17:45 |
Raven262 |
Hello shivajiva |
| 17:45 |
benrob0329 |
Shara: the beginning......of the end (DUN dun Duuuuuuuuuun) |
| 17:45 |
Calinou |
hi shivajiva |
| 17:46 |
shivajiva |
ever find yourself needing a holiday to get over a holiday? |
| 17:46 |
Shara |
Can't I begin by ending the beginning? |
| 17:46 |
Shara |
shivajiva: Always :) |
| 17:46 |
shivajiva |
sure if it's a good end to the beginning :P |
| 17:47 |
Shara |
I declare the beginning ended then, and say that it was good :P |
| 17:47 |
Jordach |
>less than an hours worth of playtime in Skyrim |
| 17:47 |
Jordach |
>meridia's beacon |
| 17:47 |
Jordach |
for fuck sakes |
| 17:48 |
Calinou |
it's weekend here finally |
| 17:49 |
shivajiva |
if the beginning has ended then there is the long haul that punctuates the middle |
| 17:50 |
Fixer |
shivajiva: hi, no need to highlight everybody |
| 17:51 |
shivajiva |
Fixer: I know but I've been away for a week and you would all have had at least one hello of me in that time :P |
| 17:52 |
shivajiva |
let's call it a catch up xD |
| 17:52 |
Raven262 |
Jordach, where did you find it? xD |
| 17:52 |
Jordach |
Raven262, bleak falls barrow |
| 17:52 |
Raven262 |
Oh |
| 17:53 |
Jordach |
dawnbreaker at level 4 on a punch cat run |
| 17:53 |
Jordach |
bethesda pls |
| 17:53 |
Raven262 |
I think i also found it there |
| 17:53 |
Raven262 |
xD |
| 17:53 |
Jordach |
Raven262, it's random |
| 17:53 |
Raven262 |
Yeah i know |
| 17:53 |
Raven262 |
I only remember it was in a dwarven ruin |
| 17:53 |
Raven262 |
But well, i played Oblivion much more than Skyrim |
| 17:56 |
Raven262 |
Also, dragons are not as cool as is closing the gates to hell. |
| 17:57 |
Shara |
I gave up on ever finishing Skyrim. |
| 17:58 |
Shara |
It was just too glitchy. |
| 18:00 |
Raven262 |
Too many mods? |
| 18:02 |
Raven262 |
Btw, the gaming experience i had while playing Oblivion has been much better than that of Skyrim. |
| 18:02 |
Raven262 |
But i think i might be in a minority here. |
| 18:03 |
Shara |
Raven262: Modded or unmodded, I'd reach a point where further play was impossible |
| 18:03 |
Shara |
Modding seemed to lead me to unfixable CTD issues no matter what I tried... unmodded and I seemed to end up with quests that would glitch out and couldn't be completed. |
| 18:03 |
Shara |
My luck with that game was just rotten. |
| 18:04 |
Raven262 |
Did you try SE? |
| 18:04 |
Raven262 |
I think Special Edition fixed many bugs. |
| 18:04 |
Raven262 |
It was the only version that i could play tbh |
| 18:04 |
Shara |
Installed it once and it simply would not start. |
| 18:05 |
Raven262 |
any errors? |
| 18:05 |
Shara |
By that point I just sort of shurgged and couldn't be bothered trying. |
| 18:05 |
Shara |
No, just would not open. |
| 18:05 |
Raven262 |
damn |
| 18:05 |
Raven262 |
My SE worked nice |
| 18:05 |
Shara |
It's all good. I have MT now :) |
| 18:05 |
Raven262 |
xD |
| 18:06 |
Raven262 |
We do need an realistic RPG subgame though |
| 18:06 |
Shara |
Mt and realistic.. uhm.. |
| 18:06 |
Raven262 |
not that much realistic |
| 18:07 |
Raven262 |
Well any rpg would do tbh |
| 18:08 |
Jordach |
Shara, tried the unofficial skyrim patches on the nexus? |
| 18:09 |
Shara |
Yup. |
| 18:09 |
Shara |
Tried all kinds of things |
| 18:11 |
Calinou |
trying out Dirt Rally right now |
| 18:11 |
Calinou |
looks really good with maxed settings |
| 18:16 |
Shara |
Hmm, no one ripped apart changes I made to handholds mod last night yet. This is good. |
| 18:16 |
Shara |
I don't really trust my ability to write code that works at 2am :) |
| 18:18 |
Raven262 |
With enough coffee, anything is possible. |
| 18:19 |
* Raven262 |
actually doesn't drink coffee. |
| 18:19 |
Raven262 |
Okay, with enough tea. |
| 18:20 |
Shara |
I don't drink coffee either |
| 18:22 |
Raven262 |
Good for you. |
| 18:22 |
* Raven262 |
also thinks coffee is evil. |
| 18:23 |
Raven262 |
As is tea with sugar. |
| 18:31 |
Shara |
Raven262: agreed |
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* benrob0329 |
doesn't drink either |
| 18:35 |
benrob0329 |
*walks into bar* |
| 18:35 |
benrob0329 |
"Gimme a water, cold." |
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Raven262 |
Hello paramat |
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tenplus1 |
hi folks |
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Raven262 |
Hello tenplus1 |
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tenplus1 |
hi raven |
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Krock |
hi tenplus1 |
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tenplus1 |
hi krock, hows things ? |
| 19:24 |
* Jordach |
is considering writing a graphics front-end for MT using another graphics engine |
| 19:25 |
cheapie |
Jordach: Sounds like... not a bad idea, actually. |
| 19:25 |
cheapie |
Is this one going to still "push the car by hand", or is it going to "use the engine" this time? :P |
| 19:26 |
tenplus1 |
hi Jordach, cheapie |
| 19:26 |
cheapie |
Hi. |
| 19:26 |
Jordach |
would probably be possible in something like UE4 with some glue |
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* Shara |
tries to imagine that. |
| 19:28 |
Shara |
Hi tenplus1 |
| 19:28 |
cheapie |
Anything is possible with enough glue :P |
| 19:28 |
Jordach |
Shara, afaik |
| 19:28 |
tenplus1 |
hi Shara |
| 19:28 |
Jordach |
it might be better to make Minetest a "core" object |
| 19:28 |
Shara |
My last attempt at doing anything with UE made my head hurt |
| 19:28 |
Jordach |
that just runs scripts |
| 19:28 |
Shara |
WOuld be interesting though |
| 19:28 |
Jordach |
(aka lua, which then asks any graphical front-end to load that texture) |
| 19:29 |
Shara |
Do it :) |
| 19:29 |
Jordach |
basically |
| 19:30 |
Shara |
That could just be my wish for pretty water shaders speaking. |
| 19:30 |
Jordach |
it does what it does now, much like the current server does |
| 19:30 |
Shara |
I'm sure that would be easier then somehow |
| 19:30 |
Jordach |
but with a mechanism that allows other engines to bind themselves like how X server does things |
| 19:32 |
* Raven262 |
awaits for the fancy water shader. |
| 19:32 |
Calinou |
UE4 for Minetest sounds terrible |
| 19:32 |
Calinou |
and nobody's going to use that anyway |
| 19:33 |
Raven262 |
I think minetest is not even using all of irrlicht's options yet. |
| 19:34 |
Raven262 |
*features |
| 19:37 |
tenplus1 |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=8494 |
| 19:37 |
tenplus1 |
updated rules for forum... anyone using csm will be banned |
| 19:38 |
Raven262 |
oh, i have to delete my clientmods folder then |
| 19:38 |
Raven262 |
there. |
| 19:39 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 19:39 |
cheapie |
tenplus1: Heh, it took me a bit to figure out what you were trying to do there :P |
| 19:40 |
tenplus1 |
if I find anyone using csm mods to cheat in the game or print anything to chat they will be banned... |
| 19:40 |
tenplus1 |
at least until a way to disable csm completely is found |
| 19:41 |
tenplus1 |
so happy to have a map viewer: http://vps1.jjayr.com/mt/mt02-xanadu2016/map#5/43/192 |
| 19:43 |
Shara |
tenplus1: you should put signs at spawn so people have no excuse :P |
| 19:43 |
tenplus1 |
yeah, will do that just now |
| 19:45 |
tenplus1 |
done, got a bright orange sign at spawn in huge letters :D |
| 19:45 |
Shara |
:D |
| 19:45 |
Raven262 |
In caps? |
| 19:45 |
Raven262 |
xD |
| 19:46 |
Shara |
I'm on day #2 of trying to update DL mods... |
| 19:46 |
tenplus1 |
lol, Xanadu has been online for 69 hours :PPPP |
| 19:47 |
Shara |
Fun when both admins managed to forget there actually is a github repo for mains erver mod, and ended up making random alternative versions of it due to that... :P |
| 19:47 |
Shara |
main server* |
| 19:49 |
corvo266 |
I should take "CSM" off my alert list |
| 19:49 |
tenplus1 |
hi corvo |
| 19:51 |
Raven262 |
Red, don't you think that being a raven is a bit boring already? |
| 19:52 |
cheapie |
<insert random comment about being a cat not being boring> |
| 19:52 |
corvo266 |
I'm not corvus |
| 19:52 |
corvo266 |
I'm corvo |
| 19:53 |
corvo266 |
I'm a crow |
| 19:53 |
Raven262 |
heh |
| 19:53 |
Raven262 |
which language is that then? |
| 19:53 |
Raven262 |
italian? |
| 19:54 |
corvo266 |
a few of the West Iberian langauges |
| 19:55 |
corvo266 |
and italian |
| 19:55 |
tenplus1 |
http://lolsnaps.com/upload_pic/3f8b4b9a-don-t-mess-with-the-river.jpeg |
| 19:55 |
corvo266 |
so I guess it must be from latin |
| 19:55 |
Raven262 |
Cornix is crow in latin as far as i remember |
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| 20:02 |
corvo266 |
anyway it should be pretty easy to figure out what I'm referancing |
| 20:02 |
LazyJ |
Count me in on the CSM use bans: |
| 20:02 |
LazyJ |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=276271#p276271 |
| 20:02 |
tenplus1 |
hi behalebabo |
| 20:02 |
behalebabo |
hello |
| 20:03 |
corvo266 |
I mean you got what you wanted https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5930 |
| 20:03 |
corvo266 |
!title |
| 20:03 |
ShadowBot |
[WIP] [CSM] Add flavour limits controlled by server by nerzhul · Pull Request #5930 · minetest/minetest · GitHub |
| 20:05 |
corvo266 |
comment if you belive any other functions need to be blocked and are able to make a good case for why |
| 20:07 |
Shara |
corvo266: Trouble is the scope for abuse often only becomes apparent once something happens. |
| 20:07 |
corvo266 |
I mean that can't really be helped |
| 20:07 |
Shara |
Of course not. Just makes it hard to build cases for disabling things before seeing that. |
| 20:07 |
corvo266 |
the documentation is public so you are welcome to try and find ways to abuse certain functions |
| 20:08 |
corvo266 |
or just wait for DS-Minetest to find them and make a mod |
| 20:08 |
corvo266 |
(no offence) |
| 20:08 |
Shara |
Well, waiting on him is a sure way, and lets me work on constructive things instead :) |
| 20:12 |
corvo266 |
plus I I'm starting to see the befeits of the way that nerzhul wants to implement this |
| 20:12 |
corvo266 |
this will allow us to add new functions that could be abused safely |
| 20:20 |
corvo266 |
huh |
| 20:21 |
corvo266 |
intersting the forum allows edit private messages after they have been sent. |
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| 20:27 |
Raven262 |
red-001 has returned to his true form. |
| 20:30 |
Shara |
I'm considering NaC-NaN his true form. Anything else is just what he's currently wearing. |
| 20:30 |
Raven262 |
But he is still red? |
| 20:30 |
Raven262 |
As in freedom |
| 20:32 |
red-001 |
well I suppose accidentally inviting comunionists is less bad than that incident involving neo-nazis |
| 20:32 |
tenplus1 |
nite folks :) |
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| 20:32 |
Raven262 |
Are you a nazi, red? |
| 20:32 |
Raven262 |
Cause thats a wrong name for one. |
| 20:32 |
Raven262 |
xD |
| 20:34 |
red-001 |
I don't recall being banned from Israel |
| 20:34 |
red-001 |
so I don't think so |
| 20:35 |
Raven262 |
Oo |
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Fixer |
ERROR[Main]: ModError: Failed to load and run script from D:\Newprog\minetest\bin\..\clientmods\chat6\init.lua: |
| 21:17 |
Fixer |
ERROR[Main]: D:\Newprog\minetest\bin\..\clientmods\chat6\init.lua:32: attempt to call field 'register_on_receiving_chat_messages' (a nil value) |
| 21:17 |
Fixer |
wat? |
| 21:17 |
DS-minetest |
Fixer: delete the s |
| 21:18 |
Fixer |
looks like so |
| 21:18 |
DS-minetest |
it's called now register_on_receiving_chat_message |
| 21:19 |
Fixer |
cheapie: ^^ |
| 21:19 |
nerzhul |
yes the CSM API is not stable as we said :) |
| 21:19 |
Fixer |
edited and it works fine now |
| 21:19 |
* cheapie |
makes a note to fix that, eventually |
| 21:19 |
Fixer |
cheapie: needs removing of just one s... |
| 21:19 |
nerzhul |
red-001, can you rebase #5948 please ? |
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red-001 |
oh I already made a fix |
| 21:26 |
red-001 |
but I forgot to change the tracked branch before pushing |
| 21:26 |
red-001 |
done |
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* DS-minetest |
thinks the default.register_chest function should allow other modnames |
| 21:28 |
red-001 |
nerzhul, Krock requested that update |
| 21:28 |
nerzhul |
translations ? |
| 21:28 |
red-001 |
well he only requested the settings example file |
| 21:29 |
red-001 |
but both are generated at the same time |
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Fixer |
https://imgur.com/gallery/XOT47 |
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DS-minetest |
Fixer: great XD i want these |
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Jordach |
>looks for really good portable headphone amp |
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Jordach |
>Signal –to-noise ratio: ≥108dB |
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Jordach |
>Slopes Should Exist |
| 22:58 |
Jordach |
nice racebait title |
| 22:58 |
Jordach |
K a p p a |
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Fixer |
wat? |
| 22:59 |
Jordach |
check feature disc |
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Igneo-Talus |
MWAHAHAHA |
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Igneo-Talus |
Aced my CTE class |
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| 23:49 |
Jordach |
wat |
| 23:49 |
Jordach |
so my roommates sound blaster z doesn't work in his tower |
| 23:49 |
Jordach |
works in mine |
| 23:49 |
Jordach |
wat |
