| Time |
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| 00:49 |
rubenwardy |
garywhite: garywhite1 ? |
| 00:50 |
garywhite |
Hmm? |
| 00:50 |
rubenwardy |
there's another user called garywhite1, garywhite |
| 00:50 |
garywhite |
oh, that's my bouncer that I can't connect |
| 00:54 |
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Hijiri |
Jordach__: RF isn't network based like technic right? |
| 01:49 |
Hijiri |
with TE stuff at least |
| 01:50 |
Hijiri |
IE stuff is cool, though I haven't used it much |
| 01:50 |
Hijiri |
Last time I played I was trying out magic mods |
| 02:09 |
benrob0329 |
Hello |
| 02:10 |
Shara |
Hi benrob0329 :P |
| 02:10 |
benrob0329 |
what's up Shara? |
| 02:10 |
Shara |
I don't know why I'm not asleep. |
| 02:11 |
benrob0329 |
Heh |
| 02:11 |
benrob0329 |
I'm trying to clean up my channel list atm |
| 02:12 |
Shara |
But benrob, I'm sad with no you in my channel! :( |
| 02:12 |
benrob0329 |
But I can't keep up with it anyways :-( |
| 02:12 |
Shara |
Neither can I. |
| 02:13 |
Shara |
That's part of the fun :P |
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| 06:56 |
Krock |
no 10+1 here... |
| 06:56 |
Krock |
o/ everyone |
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| 08:48 |
Zeno` |
I am a unicorn! |
| 08:48 |
* Zeno` |
prances around the channel |
| 08:49 |
Zeno` |
fear my unicorn skills! |
| 08:50 |
Zeno` |
Like making myself look like nyan |
| 08:50 |
* Zeno` |
jumps up and down |
| 08:51 |
iamaunicorn |
weeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 08:52 |
iamaunicorn |
brb, brushing my mane |
| 08:54 |
iamaunicorn |
guess what |
| 08:54 |
iamaunicorn |
I'm not really a unicorn :) |
| 08:56 |
Raven262 |
Oo |
| 08:57 |
Krock |
are you drunk again? (just wonder) |
| 08:58 |
mylittlepony |
no |
| 08:58 |
mylittlepony |
just in a good mood |
| 08:58 |
Raven262 |
Of course not, eh? xD |
| 08:58 |
mylittlepony |
is there anything wrong with being a pony? |
| 08:58 |
Krock |
yes. things. |
| 08:58 |
Raven262 |
No, nothing is wrong imo. |
| 08:59 |
mylittlepony |
yeah, nothing wrong |
| 08:59 |
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| 09:00 |
mylittlepony |
this nick is no more absurd than "Zeno" |
| 09:00 |
mylittlepony |
or "Krock" |
| 09:00 |
mylittlepony |
or any other nick for that matter xD |
| 09:00 |
mylittlepony |
I quite like it actually, it reminds me of rainbows |
| 09:01 |
mylittlepony |
and lollipops |
| 09:02 |
Raven262 |
And flamethrowers |
| 09:02 |
celeron55 |
umm... |
| 09:34 |
Shara |
Morning all. |
| 09:34 |
Shara |
I see we acquired a pony. |
| 09:34 |
red-arch |
indeed |
| 09:34 |
* red-arch |
wonders who is still on #minetest-project |
| 09:48 |
DS-minetest |
mmm, lasange |
| 09:48 |
* Krock |
wants |
| 09:50 |
DS-minetest |
oh oh looks like the pony will be eaten by a krock |
| 09:54 |
shivajiva |
Hi mylittlepony, all skinny and bony o/ |
| 09:56 |
shivajiva |
*boney damn :P |
| 10:02 |
Raven262 |
Greetings, Shara. |
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| 10:12 |
Shara |
Hello Raven262 |
| 10:12 |
red-arch |
hi all |
| 10:13 |
Raven262 |
Hello red-arch |
| 10:15 |
Raven262 |
Spam complete, |RC, enjoy. |
| 10:15 |
Raven262 |
xD |
| 10:15 |
Raven262 |
Hello red-001 |
| 10:18 |
Calinou |
VaultyTowers: to be frank, I don't care much about gameplay-changing mods in Minecraft |
| 10:19 |
Calinou |
what I use in Minecraft 1.11.2 is mostly VoxelMap (because not having a minimap sucks) and OptiFine (to have more graphics settings, mostly) |
| 10:20 |
VaultyTowers |
reis minimap |
| 10:20 |
VaultyTowers |
Vanilla sucks |
| 10:20 |
Calinou |
is Rei's Minimap still maintained? |
| 10:20 |
Calinou |
VoxelMap has a lot of good features anyway |
| 10:20 |
VaultyTowers |
dunno |
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mylittlepony |
Krock'o'dial! |
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| 10:56 |
cx384 |
hi all |
| 10:58 |
Raven262 |
Hello cx384 |
| 10:58 |
Krock |
hi cx384 |
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| 11:08 |
nerzhul |
hi all |
| 11:08 |
nerzhul |
Krock, if you get time can you review #5839 bugfix please ? |
| 11:08 |
nerzhul |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5839 |
| 11:09 |
Krock |
sure. *grabs patch* |
| 11:11 |
Krock |
lol, this moment when the debug build will be done after the release one. fast compiling but from scratch vs incremental but slow |
| 11:15 |
Krock |
well, it works .. but "core::stringw"? Is that another irrlicht-special? |
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nerzhul |
it's in irrlicht yes |
| 12:28 |
nerzhul |
Krock, sorry for to be late :p |
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| 12:39 |
rubenwardy |
Hi all! |
| 12:40 |
Raven262 |
Hello rubenwardy |
| 12:45 |
Krock |
hi rubenwardy, octacian |
| 12:45 |
octacian |
hey Krock |
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| 14:11 |
Shara |
Okay, since someone, who I will not name, has called my loyalty into question, I'm stating the following, in public, with no hint of an off anywhere. |
| 14:12 |
Shara |
I do NOT support what OldCoder is doing. |
| 14:12 |
VaultyLappy |
^ |
| 14:14 |
red-001 |
I wonder what is he doing now |
| 14:15 |
benrob0329 |
Morning all |
| 14:16 |
red-001 |
well if no-one pays any attention to him he will just be screaming into the void |
| 14:16 |
shivajiva |
^^ |
| 14:16 |
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| 14:16 |
Shara |
Yes, and I wish I had not needed to type that, but I'm sick of being doubted. |
| 14:16 |
VaultyLappy |
saaaaame here |
| 14:16 |
shivajiva |
hi benrob o/ |
| 14:17 |
* benrob0329 |
clears through OldCoder rubble |
| 14:17 |
benrob0329 |
Hi |
| 14:17 |
Shara |
I don't want any kind of confrontation with OC, or with anyone else for that matter. But I do support the people here and do care a great deal about MT getting over this. |
| 14:17 |
benrob0329 |
^ |
| 14:18 |
red-001 |
the best we can do is ignore him and let him be forgotten |
| 14:18 |
VaultyLappy |
red-001, he's mocking you on his website or atleast making fun of you still |
| 14:18 |
red-001 |
so? |
| 14:18 |
benrob0329 |
https://itsfoss.com/openra-command-conquer/ |
| 14:19 |
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| 14:19 |
red-001 |
if he is isolated from the community then no-one that I care for will see that site |
| 14:19 |
Zeno` |
red-001, you are named in his latest "blogs" |
| 14:19 |
red-001 |
if someone read them could you give me a tl;dr? |
| 14:19 |
red-001 |
I uninstalled tor and the site to too large for web archivers/screenshoters |
| 14:20 |
red-001 |
can't be bothered to find an unblocked proxy |
| 14:20 |
Zeno` |
tl;dr he calls you daniel and states that you DDOSed his server |
| 14:21 |
VaultyLappy |
red-001, UltraSurf |
| 14:21 |
red-001 |
well if he thinks that he is welcome to tell the authorities, I trust he has reasonable proof |
| 14:21 |
Zeno` |
tl;dr he is going to send a letter to your parents (ROFLOL) |
| 14:21 |
red-001 |
oh thats fun |
| 14:22 |
red-001 |
don't worry they are used to crazy people (I have a few in my family) |
| 14:22 |
Zeno` |
He's insane for sure (yep, I'm not using [off]) |
| 14:22 |
red-001 |
being crazy is his modus operandi |
| 14:23 |
VaultyLappy |
ooooooooooooo a shrine |
| 14:23 |
* benrob0329 |
gets buried in OC rubble again |
| 14:24 |
Zeno` |
I encourage anyone who has been threatened by him to contact their local authorities (seriously) |
| 14:24 |
* red-001 |
askes the UN to send peacekeeping troops to the minetest civil war |
| 14:24 |
red-001 |
Zeno`, I would but I have IRL stuff I need to handle right now |
| 14:25 |
octacian |
Seriously, OldCoder is plain weird, and maybe more. But couldn't we just settle with him? Last I heard he wasn't really asking for anything. |
| 14:25 |
kaeza |
why should you? |
| 14:25 |
octacian |
It's almost always the best way to go. |
| 14:26 |
octacian |
It avoids huge amounts of trouble and frees your time for the things that are actually useful. |
| 14:26 |
Shara |
octacian: Very serious question - after all that has happened, how? |
| 14:26 |
kaeza |
^ |
| 14:26 |
Zeno` |
Trouble? What trouble? The authorities investigating him is no trouble to me |
| 14:26 |
octacian |
IMO, OC could be trusted before. And I have yet to see much that could make one suggest he couldn't be trusted (aside from the other weird stuff found on his websites), he was simply defending himself in a, uh, different way. |
| 14:27 |
shivajiva |
your suggesting a bully is welcomed with open arms.... |
| 14:27 |
Shara |
I had a great deal of respect for him and very much dislike how things have gone, but I don't see a way to heal it. |
| 14:27 |
Zeno` |
defending himself against what though?! |
| 14:27 |
octacian |
Zeno`: Yes, but unless dealt with soon, this will cost the developers large amounts of time that could have been used to improve Minetest. |
| 14:27 |
kaeza |
Shara, same here |
| 14:27 |
benrob0329 |
A very, very, inappropriate way. |
| 14:27 |
Zeno` |
There was no attack towards him |
| 14:27 |
Zeno` |
So he had nothing to defend |
| 14:28 |
red-001 |
he didn't just burn bridges, he bombed them |
| 14:28 |
Shara |
I very much miss the person he was, but I don't have a time machine. |
| 14:28 |
octacian |
Zeno`: From his perspective (this is what he's told me), you guys all turned on him. He reacted in a way that many people would have, he is just more capable than most to carry out what he says I mean, what did this start over? The sneak glitch? Really... |
| 14:28 |
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| 14:28 |
octacian |
shivajiva: Yes, that's what I'm suggesting :P |
| 14:28 |
Zeno` |
It's already lost us at least one (maybe 2) core developers |
| 14:28 |
benrob0329 |
Hi Jordach |
| 14:28 |
Zeno` |
Nobody turned on him |
| 14:28 |
kaeza |
octacian, read the logs |
| 14:28 |
red-001 |
Zeno`, who quit? |
| 14:29 |
sfan5 |
> He reacted in a way that many people would have, |
| 14:29 |
sfan5 |
doxing is perfectly normal |
| 14:29 |
sfan5 |
nothing to see here, move along |
| 14:29 |
Zeno` |
red-001, I will not answer that question |
| 14:29 |
sfan5 |
maybe if you would read what you typed you would realize how stupid it is |
| 14:29 |
Sokomine |
anyone with some pathfinding experience present? |
| 14:29 |
octacian |
heh, AFAIK he only provided names of those who had already had them public |
| 14:30 |
red-001 |
if everyone reacted like that society would colaspe within a month |
| 14:30 |
Zeno` |
doxing is illegal in every country on earth (AFAIK( |
| 14:30 |
red-001 |
maybe two tops |
| 14:30 |
Zeno` |
it's illegal in all the big countries anyway; no questions asked |
| 14:30 |
octacian |
kaeza: Yes, I have seen some of the logs. And TBH, I don't like what OC is doing, but I don't think he is entirely in the wrong. |
| 14:30 |
Shara |
It is not so much providing names of people who have already given their names, it's all the rest there. |
| 14:30 |
Zeno` |
doxing is illegal in the US and most EU countries |
| 14:30 |
octacian |
Zeno`: Yes, but most (if not all) of the names he provided had already given their names |
| 14:31 |
red-001 |
he tried multiple times to get my real name |
| 14:31 |
red-001 |
enough said |
| 14:31 |
* benrob0329 |
looks for a way to change the subject |
| 14:31 |
VaultyLappy |
for those Euro people who don't know what an SSN is, its an Americans Social Security Number which is given to birth its what helps you through the years |
| 14:31 |
kaeza |
red-001, your real name is Nanaki |
| 14:31 |
octacian |
True. |
| 14:31 |
kaeza |
we all know |
| 14:31 |
red-001 |
kaeza, wtf |
| 14:31 |
red-001 |
how do you know? |
| 14:31 |
Shara |
kaeza: Yay! SOmeone else thought that :) |
| 14:32 |
VaultyLappy |
I think only shiva knows my real name lol |
| 14:32 |
sfan5 |
octacian: doxing is not primarily about revealing hidden information, it's primarily about collecting possibly public but strayed information in a single place to ease targeting a person |
| 14:32 |
Zeno` |
baseless and contrived accusations of child sex crimes are illegal in EVERY country |
| 14:32 |
octacian |
Seriously though, several of the people here really made OC feel as though everyone had turned on him, with the name calling, and other items - all over what I understand is a simple issue. |
| 14:32 |
red-001 |
you can still dox a person even if you only look through public data |
| 14:33 |
VaultyLappy |
i never called him names |
| 14:33 |
VaultyLappy |
I just don't approve his approach to the issue that arised |
| 14:33 |
Zeno` |
and, yet, that is what he has done |
| 14:33 |
benrob0329 |
Most of us didn't. |
| 14:33 |
Zeno` |
he did the same thing in 2005 |
| 14:33 |
red-001 |
I don't recall anyone calling him names |
| 14:33 |
VaultyLappy |
hmm I do but elsewhere |
| 14:33 |
VaultyLappy |
and privately |
| 14:33 |
red-001 |
I do recall getting spammed by his alts because I questioned the party line |
| 14:34 |
octacian |
Yes, I don't like his approach either. However, it seems as though that's the way he's used to dealing with things. Which is yet another reason why I'd IMO be best to just settle. |
| 14:34 |
Zeno` |
he also said in 2005 that someone dead was still alive |
| 14:34 |
Zeno` |
does any of this sound familar? |
| 14:34 |
red-001 |
yes |
| 14:34 |
benrob0329 |
what? Nooooo..... |
| 14:34 |
red-001 |
huh which incident occured then? |
| 14:34 |
red-001 |
the palemoon one occured in the paste few years |
| 14:34 |
benrob0329 |
pale moon id assume |
| 14:35 |
red-001 |
I think they said 8 months ago |
| 14:35 |
octacian |
I could provide logs of people (including devs) who have called OC names and even seemingly threatened to DDoS him. However, I prefer not to point out who those people were |
| 14:35 |
red-001 |
octacian, and who gave you those logs? |
| 14:35 |
VaultyLappy |
octacian, my only issue is if he took a different aproach at what was going on I could say ok whatever its something stupidly small we should get over it, however the stuff he did and is still doing isnt helping his case |
| 14:35 |
shivajiva |
asking someone to be mature and do their job moderating an issue should not result in bullying by pm and an escalation to this madness, fit for purpose? Doubtful, crossed the line? Certainly....vpn abuse to continue attacking....sure lets turn a blind eye and leave the whole thing in his capable hands. |
| 14:35 |
octacian |
Yeah, all the stuff on those sites is plain weird, but seriously, everyone is different. He may be really different, but, can't we live with it? |
| 14:35 |
octacian |
red-001: I watched it happen. |
| 14:35 |
red-001 |
I trust it was an unbaised party with no stake in the situation? |
| 14:36 |
octacian |
VaultyLappy: Yes, I agree fully there. However, at this point if we keep fighting him he will keep fighting us. If we stop fighting him, I doubt he'd continue. |
| 14:36 |
Shara |
octacian: He declared war. |
| 14:36 |
red-001 |
he droped the first bombs |
| 14:36 |
benrob0329 |
octacian: I very much doubt that he'd stop |
| 14:36 |
octacian |
Shara: Again, true. However, it was only as a result of the others who had in his point of view wronged him over some other issues. |
| 14:36 |
red-001 |
this was just a minor disagreement over a new feature |
| 14:37 |
octacian |
benrob0329: OldCoder wrote on his blog not to long ago that he was still more than willing to settle. And if that's not enough, he told me himself a while back. |
| 14:37 |
shivajiva |
carrying a grudge was he octacian? |
| 14:37 |
benrob0329 |
And then a fight, a fork, and a war. |
| 14:37 |
Shara |
Settle how? |
| 14:37 |
red-001 |
it's like responding to being sold broken phone by destorying the business that sold it |
| 14:38 |
VaultyLappy |
red-001, what was the change like were the devs removing or keeping shift i dont remember |
| 14:38 |
red-001 |
Shara, gag order I assume and a transfer of a large amount of bitcoins |
| 14:38 |
benrob0329 |
VaultyLappy: changing it |
| 14:38 |
octacian |
red-001: That's one way to put it. However, if the business that sold the broken phone provides the wronged with a new (not broken) phone, they will be unlikely to destroy (or attempt to destroy) the business. |
| 14:38 |
VaultyLappy |
ah so just editing its functions |
| 14:38 |
Zeno` |
In 2005 imaginary adversaries, according to him, also DDOSed him |
| 14:39 |
octacian |
Zeno`: Yeah, I've looked through quite a bit of his stuff, and I must admit that most of it seems really weird. |
| 14:39 |
benrob0329 |
*sigh* wth has happened around here |
| 14:39 |
red-001 |
look don't try to look at his actions as you would at the actions of a normal person |
| 14:39 |
red-001 |
he is clearly not mentally sound |
| 14:40 |
Shara |
octacian: He actually 'can' say sorry, if he chooses. |
| 14:40 |
octacian |
Yes, however, if we treat those who are not mentally sound as you would a normal person, that person will have a chance to improve. |
| 14:40 |
Shara |
He actually could take down the things upsetting people. |
| 14:40 |
red-001 |
https://pastebin.com/bK1qcu3A |
| 14:40 |
octacian |
Shara: Yes, I agree. However, those items were only put up as a result of people upsetting him. |
| 14:41 |
VaultyLappy |
octacian, if he had any desire to fix things he wouldn't be pasting those things about people like red publically |
| 14:41 |
Zeno` |
There is also his threat of confronting me in Australia (which seems to have been removed) |
| 14:41 |
VaultyLappy |
just throwing that out there |
| 14:41 |
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| 14:41 |
benrob0329 |
octacian: how!? By stating that the devs didnt ddos him? |
| 14:42 |
red-001 |
really like I told him before he can just move to a bloody armish community and never use the internet again for all I care |
| 14:42 |
VaultyLappy |
XD |
| 14:42 |
Shara |
If I did that to people who upset me... |
| 14:42 |
Shara |
But I'm not like that. |
| 14:42 |
red-001 |
I wouldn't miss him |
| 14:42 |
shivajiva |
so nobody can upset him....wow I don't live in that world how come he gets to? |
| 14:42 |
sfan5 |
octacian: i think there's one thing you don't seem to understand |
| 14:42 |
octacian |
VaultyLappy: Different people have different ways of confronting others. Though it may actually be true that OC is in the wrong (however, I don't think he entirely is), he wasn't asking for that much as a settlement originally. Had it been accepted, the issue would not still exist. |
| 14:42 |
sfan5 |
being part of a community is a privilege, not a right |
| 14:42 |
octacian |
sfan5: I'm listening... :D |
| 14:43 |
octacian |
That's true. |
| 14:43 |
red-001 |
shivajiva, watch out you could hurt someones feelings |
| 14:43 |
sfan5 |
also you mentioned "his way of dealing with things" |
| 14:43 |
shivajiva |
like he's trying to....yea |
| 14:43 |
sfan5 |
exactly because of how he deals with things he should not be allowed back |
| 14:43 |
red-001 |
he is the sort of person that tells people not to paste pms and then does that himself |
| 14:43 |
VaultyLappy |
octacian, thats like saying that ISIS's ways of handling things is the only way of doing it |
| 14:43 |
sfan5 |
next time something happens he disagrees with this whole thing would happen all over |
| 14:44 |
octacian |
That's another way to look at things. However, when we give people a chance they can change the way they deal with things. |
| 14:44 |
octacian |
sfan5: At that point I would agree wholeheartedly that he should go. |
| 14:44 |
red-001 |
octacian, he had a lot of chances |
| 14:44 |
VaultyLappy |
octacian, its human nature, humans don't want to change |
| 14:44 |
benrob0329 |
Threats, attacks, doxing |
| 14:44 |
red-001 |
plus minetest isn't the first time he did this |
| 14:45 |
shivajiva |
what organisation wouldn't remove an individual who behaved in this way for self preservation? |
| 14:45 |
VaultyLappy |
^ |
| 14:45 |
benrob0329 |
a little name calling by an angry dev does NOT account for all of that. |
| 14:45 |
sfan5 |
octacian: while "giving a second chance" might seem moral, this would be done with the guarantee that he would eventually do the same thing again |
| 14:45 |
red-001 |
^ |
| 14:45 |
sfan5 |
and at that point you might just not do it |
| 14:46 |
benrob0329 |
We've all been called names, been made fun of |
| 14:46 |
kaeza |
BTW, he did this back around ~2013 IIRC |
| 14:46 |
octacian |
Anyways, this conversation is getting nowhere, so, I'm gonna say my last item. OldCoder isn't entirely in the wrong like many of you think. I've personally watched several devs discuss how OC's server could be taken down, and have seen official logs of devs and other calling him names. I don't agree with OC's method of dealing with things, however, unless something is done with OC soon, the Minetest community will end up expending large |
| 14:46 |
octacian |
amounts of energy that could have been used elsewhere. |
| 14:46 |
red-001 |
look if this was the first time he went off the rails like this I might agree with octacian |
| 14:46 |
Zeno` |
so people don't have to visit his vile site, there is this: https://pastebin.com/KcCy8tGS |
| 14:46 |
Zeno` |
I am Craig |
| 14:46 |
red-001 |
octacian, thats easy |
| 14:46 |
sfan5 |
octacian: can you link me those "official logs"? |
| 14:46 |
Zeno` |
He NEVER asked that question |
| 14:46 |
red-001 |
just pretend he doesn't exist |
| 14:46 |
kaeza |
I think it was over the LandMine problems |
| 14:46 |
Zeno` |
I don't know why he made that statement |
| 14:47 |
sfan5 |
also about wasting time: no time would be wasted if people did not keep brining this up |
| 14:47 |
benrob0329 |
^^^ |
| 14:47 |
kaeza |
^ |
| 14:47 |
octacian |
heh, I agree. |
| 14:47 |
Zeno` |
He is accusing me of being racist (apparently) and for anyone who knows me that is the furthest thing from the truth ever |
| 14:47 |
Zeno` |
and he wondered why I called him a liar |
| 14:48 |
benrob0329 |
Aaaaaaaaaaaaa...aanyways |
| 14:48 |
Zeno` |
that question was NEVER asked |
| 14:48 |
octacian |
So... someone got a new subject we could go off on? |
| 14:48 |
sfan5 |
so can you link me those official logs or not? |
| 14:48 |
Zeno` |
and if it was I probably wouldn't have answered anyway because it's a loaded question |
| 14:48 |
benrob0329 |
AwesomeWM is scriptable in Lua |
| 14:48 |
octacian |
sfan5: Once/if I can find them again, I will PM you. |
| 14:48 |
sfan5 |
since you're making a pretty bold statement there without any proof |
| 14:49 |
Zeno` |
sfan5, he states it at http://minetest.org/ |
| 14:49 |
octacian |
Oh, you're talking to Zeno xD |
| 14:49 |
Zeno` |
search for Zeno or Robbins |
| 14:49 |
sfan5 |
i am not |
| 14:49 |
red-001 |
here didn't someone have back ups of his site? |
| 14:49 |
sfan5 |
tho the logs you both are referring to might be the same |
| 14:49 |
* kaeza |
looks up what "ðŸ©" is |
| 14:50 |
Shara |
octacian: I don't know what that is as it won't display on my client |
| 14:50 |
VaultyLappy |
so lemme lay my point of view for a sec, say a man murdered someone, he'd be thrown in Jail or executed, if an autistic person (just using as a reference to prove a point) killed someone does that mean he can get away all scott free or with a lesser consequence? he still did wrong and gets equal punishment |
| 14:50 |
benrob0329 |
Shara: donuts |
| 14:50 |
octacian |
Shara: Wuh... It's supposed to be a donut :P |
| 14:50 |
* Shara |
wanders off to find a doughnut (not even joking - I have some in the kitchen!!) |
| 14:50 |
kaeza |
benrob0329, oh, my font doesn't have that glyph |
| 14:50 |
Zeno` |
sfan5, http://minetest.org/ .... search my nick or real name (Craig, or Robbins) |
| 14:50 |
* CWz_ |
deletes Shara's kichen |
| 14:50 |
sfan5 |
kaeza: install an emoji font |
| 14:50 |
kaeza |
"U+1F369 DOUGHNUT" |
| 14:51 |
Zeno` |
(search yours as well) |
| 14:51 |
red-001 |
VaultyLappy, so what if someone that doesn't belive in free will murders someone? |
| 14:51 |
Zeno` |
it's all just made up rubbish |
| 14:51 |
VaultyLappy |
same punishment |
| 14:51 |
kaeza |
sfan5, have a link handy? |
| 14:51 |
benrob0329 |
Ok ok this has gone on long enough |
| 14:51 |
* kaeza |
googles |
| 14:51 |
sfan5 |
kaeza: i don't |
| 14:51 |
sfan5 |
since i just installed the win10 fonts package |
| 14:52 |
sfan5 |
(which for copyright reasons is not available prebuilt) |
| 14:52 |
benrob0329 |
Ewww MsFonts |
| 14:52 |
red-001 |
really if someone uses the fact they are a hardline determisim as a defense they most likely need physcological help |
| 14:52 |
kaeza |
sfan5, ah |
| 14:52 |
kaeza |
and ew |
| 14:52 |
Zeno` |
MS fonts are actually quite good heh |
| 14:52 |
red-001 |
VaultyLappy, have you heard of the matrix defense? |
| 14:52 |
* CWz |
hides |
| 14:52 |
benrob0329 |
Noto fonts all the way |
| 14:53 |
VaultyLappy |
yes/no |
| 14:53 |
kaeza |
this PC has an XP partition, but doubt it has anything of value |
| 14:54 |
Zeno` |
the statements he makes on his website are in my non-professional opinion not indicative of autism. |
| 14:54 |
red-001 |
more then one person has been found not guilty by reason on insanity because they belived they were in the matrix |
| 14:54 |
VaultyLappy |
Zeno`, i just used it to make a point |
| 14:54 |
red-001 |
of* |
| 14:54 |
VaultyLappy |
red-001, XD |
| 14:54 |
kaeza |
except it seems to have Prince of Persia for DOS, and some old Win 3.1 games |
| 14:54 |
Zeno` |
they are malicious and defamatory. Neither of which is something that I've seen published about autism |
| 14:55 |
benrob0329 |
Inconsolata is also a nice font |
| 14:55 |
Zeno` |
They're also lies |
| 14:55 |
VaultyLappy |
never said he was lol |
| 14:55 |
red-001 |
Zeno`, well it does cause impaired social interaction |
| 14:55 |
Sokomine |
finally caught up with reading... |
| 14:55 |
* benrob0329 |
sighs |
| 14:55 |
VaultyLappy |
kaeza, gunna go play some Peggle XD |
| 14:55 |
octacian |
Something ontopic. Is anyone aware of the issue where if you punch nodes/players quickly on a slow connection while moving you get sort of teleported around to the places you were in the past few seconds? |
| 14:56 |
VaultyLappy |
yes |
| 14:56 |
benrob0329 |
Sokomine: find something to change the subject, quick! |
| 14:56 |
octacian |
And more specifically, does anyone know how to counter the issue - without just getting faster internet? lel |
| 14:56 |
VaultyLappy |
nope XD |
| 14:56 |
VaultyLappy |
rejoin |
| 14:57 |
* Shara |
refuses to acknowledge CWz's antics and noms on successfully retrieved doughnut |
| 14:57 |
Sokomine |
benrob0329: but...i just caught up with reading :-(. you all where discussing so much. and the matter matters to me. i would very much love if oldcoder could have his #minetest-project channel back and be back on irc. i just don't really see a way how that can be accomplished |
| 14:57 |
benrob0329 |
octacian: that's an issue as old as MT itself |
| 14:57 |
benrob0329 |
Sokomine: he was trusted, and now he is not |
| 14:58 |
benrob0329 |
Trust is not bought |
| 14:58 |
red-001 |
I would settle for him staying k-lined |
| 14:58 |
* CWz |
rollback shara's donut |
| 14:58 |
VaultyLappy |
moving off topic who's go theri grubby little mitts on a Switch? |
| 14:58 |
VaultyLappy |
their* |
| 14:59 |
Sokomine |
he..did not change so much in the past time. he always was a bit like how he is now. sadly, there's not really a way to prove that nobody ever did a dos attack on him. how could we? we all only know for sure for ourshelves and can consider it extremly unlikely that anyone else did either |
| 14:59 |
VaultyLappy |
got* |
| 14:59 |
benrob0329 |
Trust is earned. But when that trust is lost, there is often little you can do to earn it back. |
| 14:59 |
Zeno` |
The other thing is that he "seems" (although I don't know) is that this is a civil case. The problem is that his allegations of child sex crimes makes it a criminal case |
| 15:00 |
VaultyLappy |
yeah if someone could PM me what THAT was about id appreciate it :P |
| 15:00 |
benrob0329 |
Ok, this is now going into the wtf zone |
| 15:00 |
Sokomine |
VaultyLappy: what? |
| 15:00 |
red-001 |
he better show some proof for that DDos attack then |
| 15:00 |
VaultyLappy |
Sokomine, the child thingy |
| 15:01 |
Sokomine |
ah. don't ask me. i have no idea about that :-( |
| 15:01 |
Zeno` |
VaultyLappy, read the link I provided |
| 15:01 |
VaultyLappy |
may I have repaste? |
| 15:01 |
Zeno` |
http://minetest.org |
| 15:01 |
benrob0329 |
moving on... |
| 15:01 |
Shara |
From what I understand, that stuff was linked to another project, which also reported him to freenode. So because freenode got involved here too, he's now linking MT to that as well. |
| 15:01 |
VaultyLappy |
oh that ive already seen what he said about that |
| 15:01 |
VaultyLappy |
I just want all sides |
| 15:01 |
benrob0329 |
Who wants to have a Lua scriptable WM? |
| 15:02 |
* Shara |
also revokes CWz's rollback priv. |
| 15:02 |
Shara |
Seriously CWz! |
| 15:02 |
Zeno` |
The thing is that the allegations he made moved the case from civil law to criminal law |
| 15:02 |
* benrob0329 |
rollbacks CWz's rollback |
| 15:03 |
red-001 |
Zeno`, wouldn't his claims of DDos already do that? |
| 15:03 |
Zeno` |
(and there is a HUGE difference) |
| 15:03 |
Zeno` |
red-001, that as well because it's also a felony in the US |
| 15:03 |
red-001 |
he is clearly going for a trial by media here |
| 15:03 |
Zeno` |
but believe me, child sex claims are investigated a bit more than DDOS attacks hehehe |
| 15:04 |
red-001 |
which wouldn't work out if he is ignored |
| 15:04 |
Sokomine |
Zeno`: ah yes, probably. guessing from what else oldcoder states i think that he either misunderstood something gravely, mixed too many people up, or has a diffrent perception in that area than most other people |
| 15:04 |
Zeno` |
Sokomine, he made similar claims in 2005 |
| 15:04 |
Zeno` |
there is no mistake in what he is attempting to do |
| 15:05 |
red-001 |
Zeno`, links? |
| 15:05 |
VaultyLappy |
afk gotta do chicken duty they need feeding and letting out for the day |
| 15:05 |
VaultyLappy |
. |
| 15:05 |
Zeno` |
this for a start: http://christfollower.me/page066.html#D151108SSN |
| 15:06 |
Zeno` |
in it he claims that a deceased person is still alive (sound familiar?) |
| 15:06 |
red-001 |
yes |
| 15:06 |
Sokomine |
it'd be great if there'd be someone oldcoder could talk to who could help him sort things out. maybe someone whom he knows rl. with all those accusations and abuse of trust on his page he might have chased many of his friends here away |
| 15:07 |
Zeno` |
you can read them all from that link |
| 15:07 |
* Sokomine |
steals an egg from VaultyLappys chicken |
| 15:08 |
red-001 |
Zeno`, so what are you suggesting? |
| 15:08 |
Zeno` |
he also makes child abuse allegations in that link |
| 15:09 |
Zeno` |
I am suggesting that this all seems very familar |
| 15:09 |
Zeno` |
compared to his current allegations against minetest |
| 15:10 |
Zeno` |
in fact, they are so similar that they're exactly the same |
| 15:10 |
Sokomine |
Zeno`: maybe that comes from mixing up people. oldcoder doesn't believe me to be a real person either :-( he seems to think i'm half of the internet. but i'm just myshelf...and maybe that belief that dead people are still alive might be caused by the same misconception |
| 15:10 |
octacian |
Seeing as I kinda started the extended discussion about OC, mind if we end it? :P |
| 15:10 |
Krock |
what. I thought I'm the only real person in here |
| 15:12 |
red-001 |
well if he wants to post made up stuff on a website he can |
| 15:12 |
Sokomine |
octacian: i'm glad that you brought up a view that oldcoder isn't entirely bad. he isn't. he's just doing something very wrong right now :-(. if that could be settled in some way that'd be a gain for all |
| 15:12 |
octacian |
^ +1 |
| 15:12 |
red-001 |
I gain for all would be if he quit using the internet and did something useful with his time |
| 15:13 |
rubenwardy |
all I did was disagree with him registering a trademark to take over the project, and now I'm getting threatening PMs and emails, and threats to contact work and family members |
| 15:14 |
Sokomine |
hmm. he did contribute a lot. he runs several servers, places great value in perserving worlds, tried to solve conflicts, to improve code... |
| 15:14 |
Shara |
I would prefer a peaceful answer, but I honestly feel he has gone too far for one to be possible. |
| 15:14 |
Zeno` |
Ok, I'll stop. But I have an message to OC if he is reading this: Fuck Off |
| 15:14 |
red-001 |
^ |
| 15:15 |
* Shara |
changes topic back to "Minetest" |
| 15:15 |
Sokomine |
rubenwardy: yes. that's the trouble :-( that is certainly not acceptable behaviour in any kind by him |
| 15:15 |
* red-001 |
changes the topic to "Channel for saying hi to people" |
| 15:15 |
red-001 |
hi |
| 15:16 |
Sokomine |
Shara: i tried that unintenitonally when i came on :-) seems nobody has any idea about pathfinding |
| 15:16 |
* Shara |
changes topic to "Shara needs more doughnuts" |
| 15:16 |
* Sokomine |
follows the channel topic and says "hi people" |
| 15:16 |
Shara |
Sokomine: Sadly I've never looked into it myself |
| 15:16 |
Shara |
Maybe Ten would be someone to speak to about that? |
| 15:16 |
rubenwardy |
I really think that doughnuts should be called doughnoughts, due to their shape |
| 15:16 |
Sokomine |
yes, i did talk to him a bit about it yesterday |
| 15:17 |
Shara |
rubenwardy: I just really think I should have more of them :) |
| 15:17 |
Shara |
whatever the name. |
| 15:17 |
rubenwardy |
Although not every one is torus shaped |
| 15:17 |
rubenwardy |
hmmm. I want some now |
| 15:19 |
Zeno` |
Wait. I just have one more thing to say to OC: Use my real name (Craig Robbins) on your blog. Please. |
| 15:19 |
red-001 |
well he claimed not to read the logs, lets wait for him to contradict that |
| 15:19 |
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| 15:19 |
* Shara |
makes 'shhhh' noises at everyone |
| 15:19 |
Shara |
Hi LazyJ |
| 15:19 |
LazyJ |
Howdy Shara ;) |
| 15:19 |
kaeza |
Shara, oh crap you are a creeper now |
| 15:20 |
kaeza |
everybody, run! |
| 15:20 |
Shara |
Wait... creepers make shhh noises?! |
| 15:20 |
Sokomine |
hi LazyJ |
| 15:21 |
LazyJ |
Howdy Soko ;) |
| 15:21 |
kaeza |
they kind of do. more like "sssssSSSSBOOM" |
| 15:22 |
kaeza |
anybody recalls which mod added those, uh, mushroom-kind-of-thingies that exploded when a player was close? |
| 15:22 |
Shara |
Not sure |
| 15:22 |
kaeza |
they were nodes, not entities |
| 15:22 |
Shara |
But I don't think I want to go BOOM |
| 15:23 |
Zeno` |
boom, boom, boom, I want you in my room |
| 15:23 |
Shara |
hehe |
| 15:23 |
kaeza |
"Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering kaboom!" |
| 15:27 |
* VanessaE |
hands kaeza the missing Q-38 Explosive Space Modulator |
| 15:27 |
* Shara |
runs |
| 15:28 |
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| 15:29 |
VaultyLappy |
back |
| 15:29 |
VaultyLappy |
smelly beasts |
| 15:32 |
* VanessaE |
quietly snaps away one of shara's donuts :) |
| 15:32 |
Shara |
Nooooooooooo! |
| 15:33 |
Shara |
Doughnut-ninja strikes again!! |
| 15:33 |
VaultyLappy |
Sokomine, i want my egg back D: |
| 15:33 |
Shara |
Hi VanessaE :) |
| 15:33 |
benrob0329 |
Hi VanessaE, LazyJ |
| 15:33 |
nore |
hi all :) |
| 15:34 |
* nore |
eats the donut VanessaE stole |
| 15:34 |
davisonio |
Hey |
| 15:34 |
VanessaE |
NO!!!! |
| 15:34 |
nore |
too late |
| 15:34 |
benrob0329 |
Hi nore |
| 15:34 |
nore |
delicious btw |
| 15:34 |
nore |
:) |
| 15:34 |
benrob0329 |
Hi davisonio |
| 15:35 |
VanessaE |
fuck it |
| 15:35 |
* VanessaE |
grabs a whole new box of Krispy Kreme |
| 15:35 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 15:35 |
* benrob0329 |
thinks about the turkey cheese bagel he's about to make |
| 15:35 |
LazyJ |
Howdy benrob0329 ;) |
| 15:36 |
* Shara |
nabs the box and legs it while VanessaE isn't looking |
| 15:36 |
VanessaE |
you .... |
| 15:36 |
Shara |
:D? |
| 15:36 |
* VanessaE |
grabs one of the donuts and squishes it on shara's head |
| 15:36 |
Shara |
Guuuh! |
| 15:37 |
* Shara |
changes topic to "food fight" |
| 15:37 |
VanessaE |
FOOD FIGHT!! |
| 15:37 |
VanessaE |
:D |
| 15:37 |
Shara |
:D |
| 15:37 |
* benrob0329 |
pickpockets VanessaE's donut she has behind her back and walks away |
| 15:37 |
benrob0329 |
Don |
| 15:38 |
* VaultyLappy |
lops off benrob0329's hand and tosses the donut down the garbage disposal |
| 15:38 |
* benrob0329 |
regenerates |
| 15:39 |
* VanessaE |
throws a pie at roben1430 :) |
| 15:39 |
* roben1430 |
doges the pie, and throws a coconut, cream pie at VanessaE |
| 15:39 |
VanessaE |
*splat* |
| 15:39 |
VanessaE |
damn you. |
| 15:39 |
* VanessaE |
sprays whipped cream at ben |
| 15:40 |
* VaultyLappy |
messily eats chips above VanessaE |
| 15:40 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 15:40 |
* roben1430 |
wonders where VanessaE got a time traveling can of whipped creap |
| 15:40 |
roben1430 |
*cream |
| 15:40 |
roben1430 |
Lol |
| 15:41 |
VaultyLappy |
from Beedles Shop Ship XD |
| 15:42 |
* roben1430 |
degenerates |
| 15:45 |
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| 15:45 |
benrob0329 |
Hi behalebabo |
| 15:50 |
Sokomine |
VaultyLappy: too late! |
| 15:50 |
VaultyTowers |
XD |
| 15:51 |
* Sokomine |
eats the last part of VaultyLappy's chickens egg |
| 15:51 |
VaultyTowers |
nooooooooooooo |
| 15:54 |
Sokomine |
that pathfinding is really very very odd. the path does not use the door but goes through a wall and a ceiling.... |
| 16:03 |
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| 16:09 |
Zeno` |
Krock, I am listening to your song! |
| 16:09 |
Zeno` |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrdEMERq8MA |
| 16:10 |
benrob0329 |
Perhaps what we need is a couple groups |
| 16:10 |
benrob0329 |
Passable, and openable |
| 16:10 |
benrob0329 |
Along with an on_pass and on_open |
| 16:10 |
Zeno` |
pfft, always look on the bright side of death |
| 16:14 |
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| 16:14 |
benrob0329 |
Hi stormchaser3000 |
| 16:15 |
VaultyLappy |
Zeno`, we respawn :D |
| 16:16 |
Zeno` |
gosh now I have to try and remember everyone's songs |
| 16:18 |
Zeno` |
celeron55's song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf2aIVKp1OY |
| 16:19 |
red-001 |
hey can I have a song? |
| 16:20 |
Zeno` |
dunno. These songs were established over a year ago |
| 16:20 |
octacian |
red-001: How about the 🩠song? Please tell me that actually exists... Not that I really care. |
| 16:20 |
VaultyLappy |
mines Beedles Shop Ship |
| 16:20 |
* red-001 |
can't see emoji |
| 16:20 |
* octacian |
recently changed everyone's wallpapers in my house into donuts just for fun |
| 16:20 |
octacian |
red-001: It's unicode... Seriously man |
| 16:20 |
VaultyLappy |
lol |
| 16:20 |
Zeno` |
no no no, people cannot choose their own songs |
| 16:20 |
octacian |
Zeno`: WHAT? So unfair... |
| 16:21 |
VaultyLappy |
aww come on XD |
| 16:21 |
VaultyLappy |
mines funny |
| 16:21 |
Zeno` |
nope, no choice. The song is assigned and not chosen by the person |
| 16:22 |
red-001 |
hey where do I apply to get a song? |
| 16:22 |
red-001 |
which forms do I need to fill out? |
| 16:22 |
Zeno` |
Shara's theme song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSLPH9d-jsI |
| 16:22 |
octacian |
😞 <- How many people can't see this? heh :rotfl: |
| 16:23 |
Zeno` |
I can't see it |
| 16:23 |
red-001 |
I can see that |
| 16:23 |
VaultyLappy |
i can |
| 16:23 |
benrob0329 |
VaultyLappy's theme song: https://youtu.be/Hb9FwlubyIQ |
| 16:23 |
red-001 |
it's a sad face emo ji |
| 16:23 |
octacian |
Wait... Most of those emoji are unicode 6. Maybe some of you have an older version of unicode? |
| 16:23 |
* DS-minetest |
can see 😞 |
| 16:23 |
Zeno` |
that is NOT VaultyLappy's theme song |
| 16:23 |
red-001 |
octacian, shitty fonts |
| 16:23 |
benrob0329 |
Lol |
| 16:24 |
VaultyLappy |
XD thank god |
| 16:24 |
VaultyLappy |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwsem2Lxvb0&t |
| 16:24 |
octacian |
IK absolutely nothing about fonts though... |
| 16:24 |
Zeno` |
VaultyLappy's theme song is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMT698ArSfQ |
| 16:24 |
VanessaE |
fonts-symbola == unicode 7.0 |
| 16:24 |
VanessaE |
I can see the smiley |
| 16:24 |
VaultyLappy |
Zeno`, NO XD |
| 16:24 |
VaultyLappy |
mine is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwsem2Lxvb0&t |
| 16:24 |
Zeno` |
too late. It's assigned :P |
| 16:25 |
VaultyLappy |
no XD |
| 16:25 |
* octacian |
is scared to open the assigned song... |
| 16:25 |
* octacian |
regrets clicking that link |
| 16:25 |
Zeno` |
why? |
| 16:25 |
Shara |
Seriously people. |
| 16:25 |
Shara |
Only Zeno` can assign theme songs. |
| 16:25 |
Zeno` |
it's their theme song |
| 16:25 |
octacian |
😂 |
| 16:26 |
DS-minetest |
flop flopp floppy  |
| 16:26 |
VaultyLappy |
octacian, methinks this is better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwsem2Lxvb0&t |
| 16:26 |
benrob0329 |
octacian: we ALL regret clicking the link XD |
| 16:26 |
* Shara |
is quite fine with her song |
| 16:26 |
octacian |
This, for example, is kinda real music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgM_JCJkOeU |
| 16:26 |
octacian |
:P |
| 16:27 |
VanessaE |
no song can adequately describe me :) |
| 16:27 |
Shara |
Zeno`: I think you have a challenger :) |
| 16:27 |
red-001 |
To all those that it may concern, I would like to lodge a formal complaint about my lack of theme song, this is simply not acceptable considering I took the time to write to long and ultimately pointless complaint |
| 16:28 |
red-001 |
well this is getting too meta |
| 16:28 |
octacian |
Also this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcoqq11tXfA |
| 16:29 |
* benrob0329 |
backs away slowly from the theme song generator |
| 16:29 |
DS-minetest |
lol, what about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEpcjgYHE4U |
| 16:29 |
VaultyLappy |
red-001, your is "Everybody poops" by bad lip reading |
| 16:30 |
octacian |
DS-minetest: wth... |
| 16:31 |
octacian |
What about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R36VmZPpRX4 |
| 16:31 |
octacian |
:P |
| 16:32 |
Zeno` |
Sokomine's theme song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWm2MIKCuwQ |
| 16:34 |
Sokomine |
!title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWm2MIKCuwQ |
| 16:34 |
ShadowBot |
Sokomine: Error: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 4KB. |
| 16:34 |
Sokomine |
oh :-( how shall i find out now what my song is? |
| 16:34 |
octacian |
Sokomine: It's freakishly weird but doesn't sound terrible |
| 16:34 |
Zeno` |
Alphaville For ever Young remix 2015 HD |
| 16:35 |
Sokomine |
hm. not that that does tell me much either... |
| 16:35 |
octacian |
It's a perfume commercial :rotfl: |
| 16:35 |
Sokomine |
oh :-( |
| 16:35 |
VaultyLappy |
simply ageless coverup |
| 16:37 |
Zeno` |
ah, but nobody can name the model ;) |
| 16:37 |
DS-minetest |
or this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5BSvwOYwxg |
| 16:39 |
VaultyLappy |
I hear you like prancing about like an idiot is this true? |
| 16:39 |
* VaultyLappy |
prances about in the background ladedadedadadadoooo |
| 16:39 |
VaultyLappy |
well I guess that should answer my question |
| 16:40 |
DS-minetest |
i see a big problem with main menu in the start time of minetest |
| 16:41 |
Zeno` |
(it's Lindsay Lohan btw) |
| 16:42 |
Zeno` |
looks exactly like Sokomine |
| 16:44 |
benrob0329 |
Zeno`: you know Sokomine irl? |
| 16:45 |
octacian |
#1: I have no clue who that is. #2: No one really cares who the model is :P |
| 16:46 |
octacian |
heh |
| 16:46 |
Zeno` |
red-001's song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39YUXIKrOFk&list=PLyQYtBDMwqmMX-FUsJWNNmnpbpIWfaoC- |
| 16:47 |
red-001 |
could be worse |
| 16:48 |
Zeno` |
true |
| 16:48 |
octacian |
I'm not so sure about that |
| 16:48 |
* Jordach_ |
purrs |
| 16:49 |
octacian |
uh, Yeah.... |
| 16:49 |
* benrob0329 |
sees title |
| 16:49 |
* benrob0329 |
runs |
| 16:50 |
octacian |
And it sounds freaking horrible too :P |
| 16:51 |
DS-minetest |
and if you are in main menu, you think, the voice comes from beyond the clouds. wth, sam, what are you saying |
| 16:53 |
Zeno` |
octacian's song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4mKGxI8t8c |
| 16:53 |
Zeno` |
nice foot work, octacian |
| 16:57 |
Zeno` |
DS-minetest's song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pEho5tqwfE |
| 17:00 |
DS-minetest |
eh, too bad sound quality X3 |
| 17:00 |
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kilbith joined #minetest-hub |
| 17:00 |
Zeno` |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wBDA-ZDaBs then |
| 17:02 |
octacian |
Zeno`: You gotta be kidding me |
| 17:02 |
Zeno` |
I'm a very serious person |
| 17:03 |
octacian |
I mean, not as bad as many of the others. But still kinda weird IMO :rotfl: |
| 17:03 |
red-001 |
russia? |
| 17:03 |
red-001 |
russiann?* |
| 17:03 |
red-001 |
-n |
| 17:04 |
Zeno` |
bugarian I think |
| 17:04 |
Zeno` |
bulgarian* |
| 17:04 |
red-001 |
yeah it seems BTV is Bulgarian |
| 17:04 |
octacian |
OK.... that was weird....... |
| 17:04 |
Sokomine |
octacian: ah. thanks for the translation :-) |
| 17:05 |
DS-minetest |
Zeno`: meh, rather not |
| 17:05 |
kilbith |
hey |
| 17:06 |
octacian |
Zeno`: Can I have mine reassigned to this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R36VmZPpRX4 |
| 17:06 |
octacian |
:P |
| 17:06 |
octacian |
WAY better |
| 17:06 |
Sokomine |
benrob0329: i'm pretty sure i don't know zeno irl. at least i'm not aware of it. didn't he say something about living in australia? that's almost the other side of the world, and i've never been there. so it's rather unlikely that we know each other |
| 17:06 |
red-001 |
<Shara> Only Zeno` can assign theme songs. |
| 17:06 |
DS-minetest |
the music has to be subtle, open source, not annoying, rather short (because of disk space) and nice |
| 17:06 |
red-001 |
Sokomine, ? |
| 17:07 |
red-001 |
oh nvm |
| 17:07 |
octacian |
red-001: Yeah, IK.. But that means Zeno` could also re-assign at request if he so chose :P |
| 17:07 |
red-001 |
I though we were back to the topic of the nameless one |
| 17:08 |
Zeno` |
since you asked nicely I'll reassign it to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW0dt6HT9Hk |
| 17:09 |
octacian |
I really regret asking. |
| 17:09 |
octacian |
That is even worse :rotfl: |
| 17:09 |
Zeno` |
lol |
| 17:10 |
octacian |
>_< |
| 17:10 |
Krock |
octacian, here, something to clear your brain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBGSJ3sbivI |
| 17:11 |
octacian |
O_O you gotta be kidding me. I can't decide if that's weirder or not... IDK if it can get weirder |
| 17:11 |
Stone-Talus |
those damn Guardian scouts suck |
| 17:12 |
octacian |
Seriously though, what is up with you people and your music tastes? |
| 17:12 |
Krock |
did you even click my link? o.o |
| 17:12 |
octacian |
Yes. And I kinda regret it |
| 17:13 |
Krock |
oh. I thought that would be good music :'( |
| 17:13 |
Sokomine |
octacian: don't like your assigned song? :-) |
| 17:13 |
octacian |
heh, You guys have far different tastes in music than do I... :rotfl: |
| 17:13 |
Sokomine |
guardian scouts? what are those? |
| 17:14 |
Sokomine |
octacian: i don't have any. not intrested in music. it's just noise to me |
| 17:14 |
octacian |
heh |
| 17:14 |
Zeno` |
what's wrong with it? It seems kind of cool to me |
| 17:14 |
octacian |
heh, IRDK |
| 17:15 |
Zeno` |
ok I will reassign your song just one more time |
| 17:15 |
* octacian |
prays it's good |
| 17:16 |
Zeno` |
of course it will be |
| 17:16 |
Krock |
octacian, to what kind of song would you like to be assigned? |
| 17:16 |
* octacian |
thinks... |
| 17:16 |
octacian |
IDK, I'm not really aware of the different types. heh |
| 17:16 |
Zeno` |
octacian's final assigned song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ |
| 17:17 |
Krock |
I smell rickroll |
| 17:17 |
octacian |
>_< |
| 17:17 |
Krock |
AND IT IS |
| 17:17 |
octacian |
Krock: You called it |
| 17:17 |
Krock |
BOOM |
| 17:17 |
Krock |
oh shit. it passed 2 million likes |
| 17:17 |
octacian |
This is what's called good music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R36VmZPpRX4 |
| 17:17 |
Krock |
and nearly 96000 weren't happy about being rickrolled |
| 17:17 |
Zeno` |
speaking of which have you seen the factorio rickroll? |
| 17:18 |
Zeno` |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kry8lbrHjeY |
| 17:18 |
Zeno` |
when minetest can do this I'll be happy |
| 17:19 |
Krock |
octacian, very similar to Coldplay... in the first 50 seconds |
| 17:19 |
octacian |
Yeah, the first 50s = the best part :rotfl: |
| 17:20 |
* octacian |
really needs to do something useful with what remains of his weekend... |
| 17:20 |
Krock |
you have about 5 or 6 hours left |
| 17:20 |
octacian |
Nope, PST |
| 17:21 |
Krock |
oh? I thought you were from GB |
| 17:21 |
octacian |
But either way, that'll be practically it seeing as I have to go somewhere at 3:30 this afternoon... |
| 17:21 |
octacian |
GB? |
| 17:21 |
Krock |
not-so-great-britain-anymore (brexit) |
| 17:21 |
octacian |
Ah, I see. Nope though, Canada :D |
| 17:22 |
Krock |
was almost right.. just missed it by some few megameters |
| 17:22 |
octacian |
:rotfl: |
| 17:23 |
octacian |
Wait... That link was to the wrong song? That explains why youtube-dl just gave me the wrong thing. Although, I don't mind :rotfl: |
| 17:23 |
Sokomine |
octacian: build a house, write a mod, fix an issue on github, go out and enjoy the nice weather...enoguh to do :-) |
| 17:23 |
octacian |
Here's what I meant to link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABs49waOliw |
| 17:23 |
octacian |
Sokomine: heh, Sounds like a plan to me. And actually pretty close to what I'll be doing come late June when the lakes warm up :D |
| 17:23 |
Sokomine |
good to hear, octacian :-) |
| 17:24 |
octacian |
In the meantime though, gonna be working on some WP websites |
| 17:29 |
Fixer |
f---ck, so much logs to read |
| 17:30 |
red-001 |
f |
| 17:31 |
red-001 |
I found a solution to that |
| 17:31 |
red-001 |
not reading them |
| 17:31 |
Fixer |
Krock: perfect rickroll https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfeervqhY9Y |
| 17:32 |
Krock |
already seen |
| 17:32 |
DS-minetest |
the first i found, that would suit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLoHAZr4_mQ&feature=plcp |
| 17:32 |
red-001 |
but yeah the discussion about the nameless troll flared up again |
| 17:34 |
VanessaE |
red-001: nah, SenileProgrammer ;) |
| 17:35 |
DS-minetest |
Zeno`: could i please have this song: http://incompetech.com/music/royalty-free/index.html?isrc=USUAN1200067&Search=Search |
| 17:36 |
red-001 |
well thats an acceptable name of them |
| 17:36 |
red-001 |
for* |
| 17:38 |
red-001 |
anyway for those that follow the "blog" of the nameless coder I assume there will be a post about today soon |
| 17:38 |
red-001 |
or as someone pointed out a copy and paste of an old blog post |
| 17:39 |
red-001 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6G3gB7DksA |
| 17:39 |
red-001 |
!title |
| 17:39 |
ShadowBot |
red-001: Error: That URL appears to have no HTML title within the first 4KB. |
| 17:39 |
red-001 |
lol |
| 17:40 |
DS-minetest |
imo that's not minetestty |
| 17:41 |
octacian |
Fixer: Yes, I'm aware, it doesn't mean that one can't work with him though. However, at this point, I prefer to leave the topic be. |
| 17:42 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: forget [off] |
| 17:42 |
VanessaE |
don't even bothert |
| 17:42 |
VanessaE |
let it go into the logs |
| 17:42 |
red-001 |
yeah |
| 17:42 |
VanessaE |
he reads the channel somehow anyway, so it's not like it matters |
| 17:42 |
octacian |
Wait... does [off] stuff not go into the logs? |
| 17:42 |
VanessaE |
octacian: correct. |
| 17:42 |
red-001 |
VanessaE, someone leaked it to him |
| 17:42 |
VanessaE |
but only the official logs respond to it |
| 17:42 |
octacian |
He probably has some user just sitting in here somewhere |
| 17:42 |
VanessaE |
red-001: same difference :-/ |
| 17:42 |
red-001 |
one of his leakers quit his network over this already |
| 17:43 |
VanessaE |
oh yeah? |
| 17:44 |
red-001 |
anyway there is no point in [off] |
| 17:44 |
red-001 |
no need to hide when he is activitly at war |
| 17:45 |
red-001 |
actively* |
| 17:45 |
VanessaE |
exactly |
| 17:45 |
VanessaE |
someone told me earlier that he's starting to try to target ME now, btw. apparently I am "persnickety". |
| 17:46 |
VanessaE |
and for reasons I can't even begin to guess at, he's added Abe (my husband) to the list of people to pursue. |
| 17:46 |
DS-minetest |
wait, those two persons that have "bot_" and "Bot" at the end, are they good? |
| 17:46 |
VanessaE |
(for the record: I have not said a single word to him since May 21 21:38:17 EDT. |
| 17:46 |
VanessaE |
) |
| 17:47 |
VanessaE |
is our official logger |
| 17:47 |
VanessaE |
RubenBot is rubenwardy's bot, idk what it's for |
| 17:47 |
red-001 |
VanessaE, ignoring [off] |
| 17:47 |
Krock |
RubenBot is somewhat evil. It's basically the monster under your bed |
| 17:47 |
DS-minetest |
ah, ok |
| 17:48 |
VanessaE |
red-001: eh? |
| 17:48 |
DS-minetest |
and RubenBot makes much smoke? |
| 17:48 |
VanessaE |
RubenBot makes sandwiches :) |
| 17:49 |
red-001 |
Zeno`, ? |
| 17:49 |
VanessaE |
er |
| 17:49 |
red-001 |
who did you just ban? |
| 17:49 |
VanessaE |
that's kilbith |
| 17:49 |
Sokomine |
hm. sandwiches are not particulary intresting. they don't taste too well. so if it's a monster under the bed... |
| 17:49 |
Zeno` |
yeah, and I just banned him |
| 17:49 |
kilbith |
you sure it's me? |
| 17:50 |
* Sokomine |
takes out her sword and aims it at the bot (but only if the bot dares to scroll :-)) |
| 17:50 |
VanessaE |
Sokomine: you've never had a proper Reuben sandwich then |
| 17:50 |
VanessaE |
Zeno`: why? |
| 17:50 |
|
kilbith was kicked by Zeno`: kilbith |
| 17:50 |
Sokomine |
what are reuben? |
| 17:50 |
diegom |
what |
| 17:50 |
Sokomine |
er? why kick kilbith? |
| 17:50 |
diegom |
wtf Zeno` |
| 17:50 |
VaultyTowers |
what did Kilbith do? |
| 17:50 |
VanessaE |
Sokomine: corned beef, sauerkraut, thousand-island dressing, on toasted rye bread |
| 17:50 |
Zeno` |
for disclosing details of a PM |
| 17:50 |
DS-minetest |
bäh, turnip sandwiches |
| 17:50 |
red-001 |
Fixer, I think he is also offended by the world |
| 17:51 |
VaultyTowers |
ah |
| 17:51 |
red-001 |
not sure how the nameless one could solve that |
| 17:51 |
VanessaE |
Zeno`: un-ban him, give him a break |
| 17:51 |
Sokomine |
VanessaE: ah. could be tasty |
| 17:51 |
Zeno` |
you unban him :P |
| 17:51 |
VanessaE |
Sokomine: when made properly to die for. |
| 17:51 |
VanessaE |
they're to die for* |
| 17:51 |
Sokomine |
:-) |
| 17:52 |
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kilbith joined #minetest-hub |
| 17:52 |
Zeno` |
wb |
| 17:52 |
VanessaE |
kilbith: don't re-share personal info back and forth. it's bad form. |
| 17:52 |
Sokomine |
VanessaE: any really fresh and still warm bread is great :-) |
| 17:52 |
VanessaE |
(and it's part of what's been fueling the rage back and forth with OC) |
| 17:53 |
Shara |
It's a good thing I am not the type of person some claim, or I'd be the one handing out some bans right now :) |
| 17:53 |
diegom |
uh, did I miss something? |
| 17:53 |
octacian |
diegom: Yeah, the OC apocalypse has begun. |
| 17:53 |
VanessaE |
I'm trying to keep mostly neutral :P |
| 17:53 |
kilbith |
I'll keep being transparent and reveal the whole extent of his hyprocrisy, sorry |
| 17:54 |
Zeno` |
kilbith, if you EVER share something I said in PM to you again don't expect me to back down so quickly, ok? |
| 17:54 |
Sokomine |
banning is very seldom necessary. mostly if a bot got out of control and starts spamming the channel |
| 17:54 |
Shara |
We really need a #minetest-drama channel. |
| 17:54 |
VaultyTowers |
lol |
| 17:54 |
Shara |
If someone makes it, please ban me immediately. |
| 17:54 |
Shara |
I don't want anymore. |
| 17:54 |
Sokomine |
but yes, things said in privacy ought to stay there |
| 17:55 |
VanessaE |
people, people... |
| 17:55 |
VanessaE |
calm down |
| 17:55 |
DS-minetest |
+ |
| 17:55 |
kilbith |
Zeno`, feel free to ban me if you want, if it can help you feel you better |
| 17:55 |
VanessaE |
please |
| 17:55 |
Sokomine |
Shara: *g* you could send all those i-want-to-be-a-baby-players there! |
| 17:55 |
VanessaE |
you too, kilbith |
| 17:55 |
kilbith |
I don't really care of this channel |
| 17:55 |
Shara |
Sokomine: Yes!! Please! |
| 17:55 |
VaultyTowers |
gogo wawa |
| 17:55 |
octacian |
This conversation is getting us nowhere..... |
| 17:55 |
DS-minetest |
+ |
| 17:55 |
octacian |
:P |
| 17:55 |
VaultyTowers |
look at the little baby (baby giggles) |
| 17:55 |
VanessaE |
OC is trying to turn this channel into a war zone |
| 17:55 |
VaultyTowers |
now look at the big baby |
| 17:56 |
VanessaE |
can we PLEASE not let that happen? |
| 17:56 |
VaultyTowers |
(deep voice) Wa |
| 17:56 |
* DS-minetest |
just adds his + P: |
| 17:56 |
* Shara |
eats the + |
| 17:56 |
Shara |
The only type of fighting allowed here is what happens when VanessaE steals the doughnuts. |
| 17:56 |
DS-minetest |
hey, ink isn't healthy |
| 17:56 |
VanessaE |
oh no no no no |
| 17:56 |
VanessaE |
all the donuts are mine mine MINE! :) |
| 17:57 |
nore |
is me eating them allowed as well? :3 |
| 17:57 |
* VaultyTowers |
calls dibs on doughnuts |
| 17:57 |
DS-minetest |
dount do that ;) |
| 17:57 |
Sokomine |
fine. have them. there's more deliscious food :)) |
| 17:57 |
DS-minetest |
the sandwitches? |
| 17:57 |
Sokomine |
did i tell you that i had cake last weak that was a *huge* and *deliscious* and *big* piece of cake? ate two of them - and couldn't eat anything else that day |
| 17:58 |
red-001 |
wait what just happened? |
| 17:58 |
VaultyTowers |
mmm Dew-S-A |
| 17:58 |
DS-minetest |
red-001: most likely the topic is a food mod |
| 17:58 |
VaultyTowers |
I SAID DEW S A |
| 17:58 |
Sokomine |
and they had a huge variety of cakes to choose from as well :-) normally the pieces cut and sold tend to get tinier and tinier. this one was biiiig |
| 17:58 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: no [off]. |
| 17:58 |
VanessaE |
forget [off] |
| 17:58 |
VanessaE |
it doesn't help anyway |
| 17:59 |
Sokomine |
Fixer: you're perfectly right about that |
| 17:59 |
Shara |
nore: I may pay you in doughnuts to fend her off. |
| 17:59 |
VaultyTowers |
only thing [off] is good for is hiding from the players in game or vice versa :P |
| 18:00 |
Sokomine |
off could still be good to not fill the logs with this discussion. maybe we ought to include our food discussion as well |
| 18:00 |
DS-minetest |
[on] where's the switch? |
| 18:00 |
benrob0329 |
]off[ |
| 18:00 |
Sokomine |
hm, i thought of off more of a way to not spam the logs |
| 18:00 |
DS-minetest |
pff, is anyway anyone reading logs? |
| 18:00 |
Shara |
Some people do. |
| 18:00 |
Sokomine |
just make it a big red switch and write "do not press this switch" on top |
| 18:01 |
benrob0329 |
[^] <-- here is the switch |
| 18:01 |
DS-minetest |
poor people. YES, I SPEAK WITH YOU |
| 18:01 |
benrob0329 |
You just need to find an upside-down version of ^ |
| 18:01 |
Sokomine |
benrob0329: v could do |
| 18:01 |
Krock |
[v] <-- there is the same switch, just disabled |
| 18:02 |
benrob0329 |
Oh yeah |
| 18:02 |
benrob0329 |
didn't think of that |
| 18:02 |
VanessaE |
[<] <--- rotated it with a screwdriver |
| 18:02 |
Zeno` |
kilbith, how about I reboot into linux so I can post the log of the last conversation with you where you told me that if I didn't modify and remove VanessaE from credits you would not be my friend anymore? |
| 18:02 |
VanessaE |
that didn't need repeated in here, Zeno` |
| 18:02 |
kilbith |
sure, go for it |
| 18:03 |
benrob0329 |
Wth |
| 18:03 |
Zeno` |
I think it did need to be repeated in here. I made a PR |
| 18:03 |
Zeno` |
kilbith threatened to "not be my friend" if I didn't remove VanessaE's name |
| 18:03 |
kilbith |
go show the logs to Vanessa please |
| 18:04 |
Zeno` |
and I am sick to death of all the threats |
| 18:04 |
Zeno` |
brb, rebooting |
| 18:04 |
kilbith |
nice of you, thanks |
| 18:04 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: no [off] please |
| 18:04 |
VanessaE |
we're not starting that shit again |
| 18:04 |
octacian |
kilbith: Why would you want VanessaE's name off the credits? |
| 18:04 |
octacian |
On second thought.. I may regret asking that |
| 18:04 |
VanessaE |
octacian: because I'm not a core dev, I'm a contributor in other ways. |
| 18:04 |
* nore |
doesn't understand what is happening |
| 18:05 |
Krock |
finally bury the topic |
| 18:05 |
VanessaE |
I don't care one way or the other about my name appearing in the "active" part of the credits. |
| 18:05 |
Sokomine |
#minetest-project as such was imho a full success. it's just found to be good and officially continued in #minetest-hub |
| 18:05 |
Fixer |
thats why I said devs should make some kind of automatic credit page, based on git info |
| 18:05 |
octacian |
heh, I honestly wouldn't worry at all about the credits section |
| 18:05 |
* Shara |
thinks maybe only the devs should be listed and just have done |
| 18:05 |
Krock |
nore, the never ending stories of whose-name-shall-not-be-said and the Minetesters |
| 18:05 |
octacian |
Shara: That would simplify things a lot. |
| 18:06 |
VanessaE |
everyone PLEASE STOP already! |
| 18:06 |
VanessaE |
ENOUGH |
| 18:06 |
octacian |
heh |
| 18:06 |
nore |
^ +1 |
| 18:06 |
kilbith |
no, he has not shown the logs already |
| 18:06 |
Fixer |
but i was afk, i want more drama |
| 18:06 |
VanessaE |
we don't need to see them |
| 18:06 |
octacian |
Speaking off the previous topic, we really need a #minetest-food :P |
| 18:06 |
Stone-Talus |
id love to join dev but i dunno how to code so |
| 18:06 |
Sokomine |
octacian: that's a good idea :-) |
| 18:06 |
* VanessaE |
throws a cheeseburger at octacian |
| 18:07 |
Fixer |
ＣＹＢＥＲＯＰＥＮï¼ï¼¯ï¼µï¼´ï¼¨ï¼¥ï¼¤ |
| 18:07 |
VanessaE |
Stone-Talus: learn Lua. contribute to builtin or minetest_game |
| 18:07 |
Sokomine |
but then we'll starve on this channel? if there's no food to feed us hugry people? |
| 18:07 |
* kilbith |
feels like a fish in water in drama time |
| 18:07 |
octacian |
Trueee... |
| 18:07 |
Stone-Talus |
VanessaE, I hate doing lua, I tried with Computercraft and found it annoying |
| 18:07 |
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| 18:08 |
VanessaE |
Stone-Talus: Minetest Lua API is easy to use |
| 18:08 |
kilbith |
welcome back |
| 18:08 |
Stone-Talus |
im just good with ideas lol |
| 18:08 |
VanessaE |
I've coded quite a few mods in it, and the API is reasonably capable too |
| 18:08 |
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| 18:08 |
VanessaE |
the game content is written with Lua also |
| 18:08 |
Sokomine |
Stone-Talus: like VanessaE said. lua isn't too tricky :-) and even the engine isn't. and even if you can't contribute there - there's more than enough you can do. modding, creating textures and models, or building impressive things on servers, or just chatting with players and having a good time |
| 18:08 |
Krock |
even writing mods is a form of contributing |
| 18:08 |
Zeno` |
https://pastebin.com/dKjauurp |
| 18:08 |
Zeno` |
there you go, kilbith |
| 18:09 |
Fixer |
credits is so minor issue, they should be automated |
| 18:09 |
benrob0329 |
Even AwesomeWM is scripted in lua |
| 18:09 |
Stone-Talus |
i can definitely build thats why I took a construction class lol |
| 18:09 |
kilbith |
Zeno`, also note I've releaved the private infos in private, you're doing it publicly |
| 18:09 |
VanessaE |
benrob0329: it is? cool. |
| 18:09 |
kilbith |
but thanks anyway, I'll go farther than you next time ;) |
| 18:09 |
benrob0329 |
VanessaE: yes, which is why I want to try it for a while |
| 18:09 |
Fixer |
long list can be solved by simply using some simple script with git history that shows up top 20 contributors or smth |
| 18:09 |
sfan5 |
why is there so much drama over minor things |
| 18:09 |
VanessaE |
benrob0329: nah, I'll stick to xfce. :) |
| 18:10 |
* Sokomine |
throws a cake at Zeno` and kilbith so that both are busy eating :-) |
| 18:10 |
Zeno` |
kilbith, my PR is trivial |
| 18:10 |
Krock |
sfan5, asking myself the same question actually |
| 18:10 |
kilbith |
sfan5, because it's fun! |
| 18:10 |
benrob0329 |
It also means that it compiles in less than a minute :P |
| 18:10 |
Stone-Talus |
VanessaE, if you need something built on a server I can do it XD |
| 18:10 |
Stone-Talus |
i Have a geometeric way of thinking lol |
| 18:10 |
VanessaE |
Stone-Talus: you're welcome to play on my servers :) |
| 18:10 |
* DS-minetest |
wants a cake, too |
| 18:10 |
kilbith |
Zeno`, I mean you do leak private infos here, publicly |
| 18:10 |
VanessaE |
just don't go building any penises or swastikas :P |
| 18:10 |
Stone-Talus |
just hope they run on my 4 gigs of RAM |
| 18:10 |
Stone-Talus |
not an issue XD |
| 18:11 |
Stone-Talus |
I usually do 8 bit things |
| 18:11 |
* Sokomine |
hands a piece of cake to DS-minetest as well |
| 18:11 |
Fixer |
8 bit swastika |
| 18:11 |
VanessaE |
Stone-Talus: the Survival server should, barely, as long as you aren't using HDX. |
| 18:11 |
* Fixer |
runs |
| 18:11 |
* DS-minetest |
is happy :D :| :D :| |
| 18:11 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: I say that because people have done both before :-/ |
| 18:11 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: btw, i don't remember swastikas at all since 2011, probably my memory is at fault |
| 18:12 |
Krock |
8 bit remove kebab |
| 18:12 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: they get removed as quickly as they get built. |
| 18:12 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: thats on your server |
| 18:12 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: in 2011 i've seen dicks only |
| 18:12 |
Fixer |
2012 too |
| 18:12 |
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| 18:12 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: more recent, like a few months ago |
| 18:13 |
VanessaE |
you know how people can be |
| 18:13 |
* benrob0329 |
uses an 8-bit rollback to remove Fixer's 8-bit shwastika |
| 18:13 |
VanessaE |
"oh let's make a big dick on that server! oh we're sooo creative and funny" bleh |
| 18:13 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: it is internet (tm), it is fucked up, you can expect some double PHD professor to play minetest building swastikas and mario in nazi uniform, totally believable |
| 18:14 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 18:14 |
* DS-minetest |
likes the idea of rollback time machines |
| 18:14 |
Fixer |
you can swear on the internet |
| 18:14 |
Zeno` |
Actually it's so trivial I could do two things: (a) merge it right now; or (b) close it |
| 18:14 |
* octacian |
decides it's time to ignore IRC for a while... |
| 18:14 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 18:14 |
benrob0329 |
VanessaE: builders of various obelisks certainly thought so |
| 18:14 |
Fixer |
octacian: add more fuel instead |
| 18:14 |
* benrob0329 |
hides |
| 18:14 |
VanessaE |
octacian: well then we'll just ignore you too :) |
| 18:15 |
octacian |
I'd be happy to add more fuel to other conversations... :P |
| 18:15 |
kilbith |
I'm kind of talented in drawing swastikas, LazyJ is one of my fan |
| 18:15 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: rollback is so slow, swastika removal will take ages, ^^ VanessaE |
| 18:15 |
VanessaE |
Zeno`: merge it now, then let the controversy erupt :P |
| 18:15 |
Fixer |
Remove Slow Rollback |
| 18:15 |
Fixer |
-bab |
| 18:15 |
benrob0329 |
Fixer: add snapshots instead |
| 18:15 |
Zeno` |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5800 |
| 18:15 |
Zeno` |
nah I closed it |
| 18:16 |
Zeno` |
can't be bothered |
| 18:16 |
Krock |
Title: Update credits #5800 |
| 18:16 |
VanessaE |
:( |
| 18:16 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: it is worse imo, snapshot affects everyone |
| 18:16 |
VanessaE |
oh well |
| 18:16 |
Fixer |
i would like to see faster rollback |
| 18:16 |
benrob0329 |
Fixer: but it wotks against fire |
| 18:16 |
benrob0329 |
*works |
| 18:16 |
red-001 |
just get rid of the credits |
| 18:16 |
Sokomine |
Fixer: well, i can imagine boys in puberty to be excited about dicks and building them everywhere. but a phd professor ought to have a better education than building nazi stuff? |
| 18:16 |
red-001 |
paste a like to github instead |
| 18:17 |
Zeno` |
kilbith won |
| 18:17 |
kilbith |
nope |
| 18:17 |
Fixer |
Sokomine: everything is possible today |
| 18:17 |
benrob0329 |
*sigh* what has the internet come to |
| 18:18 |
Fixer |
i'm literally can't be amazed anymore |
| 18:18 |
Fixer |
i seen so much IRL shit |
| 18:18 |
Fixer |
literally |
| 18:18 |
Fixer |
around the world and in nearby places |
| 18:18 |
Fixer |
it is almost virtual reality but in real world |
| 18:18 |
benrob0329 |
what is real though? |
| 18:19 |
benrob0329 |
Most colors you see on a daily basis are fake illustrations to fool your eyes |
| 18:19 |
benrob0329 |
*illusions |
| 18:19 |
benrob0329 |
Heck, light itself is an illusion |
| 18:20 |
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| 18:20 |
benrob0329 |
Your eyes are basically antennae that happen to be able to get a rough estimate of the transmitter |
| 18:21 |
octacian |
Wait... What? |
| 18:21 |
benrob0329 |
Everything you hear, feel, experience is just the various ways your body comunicates the caotic universe to your brain, locked up inside your skull |
| 18:21 |
Fixer |
with background: Incorporeal Visions Deluxe - è©© Desktop [2:22] |
| 18:22 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: stop using [off] |
| 18:22 |
benrob0329 |
/music plays |
| 18:22 |
Fixer |
octacian: more fuel, i go eat |
| 18:22 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: vaporwave is good for this topic right now |
| 18:22 |
* octacian |
goes back to work |
| 18:22 |
Fixer |
Remove Work |
| 18:23 |
benrob0329 |
rm -rf /home/octacian/work |
| 18:23 |
octacian |
rm: cannot remove '/home/octacian/work': No such file or directory |
| 18:23 |
octacian |
:P |
| 18:23 |
Fixer |
octacian: stop work now, do this https://gentoo.org/get-started/ |
| 18:24 |
octacian |
#UbuntuFTW |
| 18:24 |
Krock |
uninstall enoch |
| 18:24 |
* Fixer |
elegantly stand ups |
| 18:24 |
Krock |
*gentoo |
| 18:24 |
* Fixer |
pauses vaporwave for sec |
| 18:24 |
benrob0329 |
find "work" | grep "octacian" | rm -rf |
| 18:25 |
octacian |
find: ‘work’: No such file or directory |
| 18:25 |
benrob0329 |
#GentooFTW |
| 18:25 |
octacian |
Wait... Did I miss something here? |
| 18:25 |
VanessaE |
rm -rf $(find ./ |grep work |grep octacian) |
| 18:25 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 18:26 |
octacian |
Still not gonna work. |
| 18:26 |
red-001 |
rm -rf --non-preserve-root / |
| 18:26 |
octacian |
I legitimately have absolutely nothing on my computer with the words "work" and "octacian" (except for the log file that this is gonna go in) |
| 18:26 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 18:26 |
benrob0329 |
VanessaE: clearly I need to learn bash |
| 18:27 |
octacian |
What's so nice about gentoo though? |
| 18:27 |
Jordach_ |
>learn bash |
| 18:27 |
Jordach_ |
learn powershell, shitlord |
| 18:27 |
VanessaE |
powershell? fuck windows :P |
| 18:27 |
benrob0329 |
Learn unix shell, Winshit lord. |
| 18:27 |
Jordach_ |
powershell has/is being ported to linusx |
| 18:27 |
Jordach_ |
-s |
| 18:27 |
octacian |
WHY would ANYONE want that!? |
| 18:27 |
Jordach_ |
PowerShell is pretty good apparently |
| 18:27 |
octacian |
Powershell === the WORST command line I have EVER used |
| 18:27 |
benrob0329 |
No, just no. |
| 18:27 |
octacian |
:P |
| 18:28 |
Jordach_ |
benrob0329, but that's what modern corporate wants, unfortunately |
| 18:28 |
octacian |
With this in mind, Jordach_: How can you possibly stand running Windows? |
| 18:28 |
Krock |
back to W98's command.com with batch |
| 18:28 |
VanessaE |
G8d no |
| 18:28 |
benrob0329 |
I prey for those who have to use Dos style cmd |
| 18:28 |
VanessaE |
G*d no* |
| 18:28 |
Jordach_ |
octacian, i have an actual game library other than indies |
| 18:28 |
octacian |
#Wine(as in the program)FTW! :D |
| 18:29 |
benrob0329 |
Jordach_: so do I :-) |
| 18:29 |
Fixer |
i've seen powershell and it is horrifying |
| 18:29 |
benrob0329 |
>everything is an object |
| 18:29 |
benrob0329 |
No, fuck no. |
| 18:29 |
Fixer |
or developed for special kind of people |
| 18:29 |
Fixer |
non-normies |
| 18:30 |
* octacian |
leaves until everyone cools off... |
| 18:30 |
benrob0329 |
gimme a dev tree anyday |
| 18:30 |
benrob0329 |
Anyways |
| 18:31 |
benrob0329 |
octacian: gentoo is stable, modular, well documented, and extremely flexible. |
| 18:31 |
Fixer |
gentoo and arch wiki = legendary |
| 18:31 |
Fixer |
debian docs are also very very good |
| 18:31 |
Fixer |
they are not wiki though |
| 18:32 |
benrob0329 |
Your whole system is consistently compiled to suit your needs |
| 18:32 |
benrob0329 |
Its like having your own distro, without the LFS |
| 18:33 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 18:33 |
Krock |
that's a strange File System </shitpost> |
| 18:33 |
VanessaE |
well if you start from Stage 3, sure |
| 18:33 |
VanessaE |
but doesn't gentoo still offer Stage 1 for the real hardcore folks? |
| 18:34 |
benrob0329 |
probably |
| 18:34 |
benrob0329 |
But I don't see why you'd want to do that |
| 18:34 |
VanessaE |
I wouldn;'t. |
| 18:34 |
VanessaE |
still haven't decided to switch distros yet |
| 18:34 |
VanessaE |
however, devuan just made 1.0 stable release.. it was looking kind of inviting |
| 18:35 |
benrob0329 |
Gentoo allows you to have your system, be your system. |
| 18:35 |
* Krock |
looks at Antergos and wonders how good it is |
| 18:35 |
benrob0329 |
No ifs buts er ors about it. |
| 18:35 |
VanessaE |
but maybe a few XORs? :) |
| 18:36 |
benrob0329 |
If you want there to be :-) |
| 18:36 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 18:36 |
benrob0329 |
Like I said, its your system, nor someone elses idea of your system. |
| 18:36 |
benrob0329 |
*not |
| 18:36 |
VanessaE |
-fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math -fracing-stripes -ftype-r-sticker |
| 18:37 |
VanessaE |
;) |
| 18:37 |
benrob0329 |
I mean you can do that |
| 18:37 |
VanessaE |
(I used to use gentoo some years ago, so I'm allowed to make that joke :P ) |
| 18:38 |
benrob0329 |
honestly, if you have an afternoon, a laptop or smartphone, and a decent desktoo yoy can install it in an afternoon |
| 18:39 |
benrob0329 |
I said afternoon twice |
| 18:39 |
benrob0329 |
>.< |
| 18:39 |
VanessaE |
well |
| 18:39 |
VanessaE |
when or if I do, I'll install it in a VM and then transfer it to the live system maybe |
| 18:39 |
VanessaE |
minimize downtime that way |
| 18:39 |
VanessaE |
just have to make sure the kernel is generic enough |
| 18:40 |
benrob0329 |
You probably don't want to do that |
| 18:40 |
VanessaE |
no? |
| 18:40 |
benrob0329 |
Hardware specific things |
| 18:40 |
benrob0329 |
Compile options |
| 18:40 |
benrob0329 |
Etc |
| 18:40 |
VanessaE |
yeah I suppose |
| 18:43 |
Fixer |
Remove Gentoo |
| 18:43 |
Fixer |
gentab |
| 18:43 |
Fixer |
"Gun powder trails burn diagonally " Wuzzy |
| 18:43 |
* red-001 |
is uninstalling Gentoo |
| 18:45 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: is sysvinit really necessary for you? |
| 18:45 |
benrob0329 |
rm -rf $(find / | grep !gentoo) |
| 18:45 |
kilbith |
you know what |
| 18:45 |
benrob0329 |
Fixer: sysvinit? |
| 18:45 |
benrob0329 |
We use Systemd or OpenRC |
| 18:45 |
kilbith |
we need an attorney and subpoena to decide who goes in credits |
| 18:45 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: I don't care much about init systems, but I hate systemd, and I'm no friend of pulseaudio either. |
| 18:46 |
Fixer |
ugh, power outage corrupted my lamps test world :/ |
| 18:46 |
VanessaE |
(pulseaudio has only one feature I like - it can turn the volume up above 100%) |
| 18:47 |
Fixer |
no wait, lamp world is back, just env_meta.txt corrupted |
| 18:47 |
benrob0329 |
switching sound carda per program is nice |
| 18:48 |
benrob0329 |
But if you don't need that, then your fine |
| 18:48 |
* benrob0329 |
uses motherboard sound card for speakers and xlr interface for heaphones |
| 18:52 |
lumidify |
#OpenBSDFTW |
| 18:53 |
Jordach_ |
>XLR |
| 18:53 |
Jordach_ |
*autistic screeching* |
| 18:57 |
rubenwardy |
Jordach_, 3/5 of my Steam library supports Linux |
| 18:57 |
rubenwardy |
and apart from Source and Skyrim, that's all the games I want to play |
| 18:57 |
Jordach_ |
>looks at BF1, Overmeme |
| 18:57 |
rubenwardy |
Isn't BF1 source? |
| 18:57 |
rubenwardy |
no, I'm thinking of TF2 |
| 18:58 |
rubenwardy |
I don't like FPS |
| 18:58 |
rubenwardy |
apart from half life |
| 18:58 |
Jordach_ |
rubenwardy, both Titanfall's are built on the source engine |
| 18:58 |
rubenwardy |
wait, source supports linux |
| 18:58 |
rubenwardy |
so just Skyrim |
| 19:00 |
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| 19:00 |
Jordach__ |
>hotel wifi IP reset again |
| 19:00 |
Jordach__ |
*autistic screeching* |
| 19:02 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: source should not be a problem on linux |
| 19:03 |
benrob0329 |
Jordach_: can your wimpy mic jack provide 48 volts fantom power to a condenser microphone? |
| 19:03 |
benrob0329 |
didn't think so. |
| 19:04 |
kilbith |
Source games on linux run thanks to a cheap D3D to OpenGL abstraction layer |
| 19:04 |
kilbith |
cold hard truth |
| 19:04 |
kilbith |
at least games from the HL² era |
| 19:07 |
Jordach__ |
benrob0329, ayy lmao |
| 19:10 |
Jordach__ |
benrob0329, fiber optic digital audio is the master rice |
| 19:12 |
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| 19:12 |
Calinou |
rubenwardy: neither BF1 nor Overwa |
| 19:12 |
Calinou |
nor Overwatch are Source* |
| 19:12 |
Calinou |
I think BF1 is Frostbite (not sure), and Overwatch is whatever Blizzard uses in-house |
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| 19:24 |
Fixer |
kilbith: and HL2 era games run just fine on decade old hardware (i'm oversimplifiying but kinda) |
| 19:24 |
Jordach__ |
Calinou, the Blizzard engine seems to be hyper scalable |
| 19:24 |
Jordach__ |
hearthstone runs fine on my potato tablet |
| 19:24 |
Fixer |
Jordach__: rice? |
| 19:25 |
Fixer |
kilbith: so you can do that layer without much worrying since it will literally have 100+ fps on today's hardware |
| 19:26 |
kilbith |
Fixer, sure but the porting on linux is kind of half-assed |
| 19:26 |
kilbith |
as usual I'd say |
| 19:28 |
IhrFussel |
Thanks^^ |
| 19:29 |
Fixer |
kilbith: still, it is huge way forward, remember what was 10 years ago |
| 19:30 |
kilbith |
I was playing HL² with a 6600GT back then |
| 19:30 |
Fixer |
kilbith: me on Radeon 9600 |
| 19:30 |
Fixer |
XT |
| 19:31 |
kilbith |
I got this one too |
| 19:31 |
kilbith |
played Far Cry to death with it |
| 19:31 |
Fixer |
wait a second... |
| 19:31 |
kilbith |
Doom 3 was freaking scary back in the time |
| 19:32 |
Fixer |
Far Cry 1 does not even work today on ATI :( |
| 19:32 |
Fixer |
i tried it |
| 19:32 |
Fixer |
something with textures, ATI HD6870 |
| 19:34 |
Fixer |
HL was much more scary for me than DOOM 3 |
| 19:35 |
Fixer |
doom 3 was annoying... because flashlight |
| 19:35 |
Fixer |
too dark |
| 19:36 |
kilbith |
yeah the gameplay was bad |
| 19:37 |
kilbith |
I liked GTA:SA too |
| 19:38 |
kilbith |
I feel old now :/ |
| 19:39 |
Fixer |
GTA SA is not even old |
| 19:39 |
kilbith |
13 years old |
| 19:39 |
Fixer |
i've played on zx spectrum, doom, quake 1/etc, now thats old (c) |
| 19:39 |
kilbith |
I've played Alex Kidd on mastersystem, even older |
| 19:41 |
Fixer |
90s were like yesterday |
| 19:41 |
Fixer |
90s - week ago, 2000s - day ago |
| 19:42 |
kilbith |
I'm sure 50% of this channel was not even a spermatozoid in the 90s |
| 19:43 |
Fixer |
remembering my age adds more to depression |
| 19:43 |
Fixer |
true for any person |
| 19:44 |
Fixer |
at first you feel young, and then you realise you played doom 20 years ago and for a moment you think: damn I'm old! |
| 19:45 |
Fixer |
but not that old yet |
| 19:45 |
kilbith |
I broke the counter personally |
| 19:45 |
kilbith |
so that I stick to 20 years old in my head |
| 19:45 |
Fixer |
nah, we are young in our souls |
| 19:46 |
Shara |
Now I'm remembering the music from Alex Kidd... |
| 19:47 |
Fixer |
and somebody played rogue or smth on some 70s era machine, he probably thinks by now: holy fuck! i'm probably one feet in my grave! |
| 19:48 |
kilbith |
he could ask OC :3 |
| 19:48 |
kilbith |
*we |
| 19:48 |
Fixer |
"Live long and prosper" (c) |
| 19:49 |
Fixer |
todays you expected to work up to 65, so here is your young-old limit :D |
| 19:50 |
Calinou |
Jordach__: seems to run well, yes |
| 19:50 |
Fixer |
the more you think about those issues - more depression you got |
| 19:50 |
Fixer |
so better stop thinking |
| 19:50 |
Calinou |
I ran Quake 2 at 1080p on an Intel HD 3000 PC yesterday |
| 19:50 |
Calinou |
works fine |
| 19:50 |
Fixer |
doom players are not that old |
| 19:50 |
Calinou |
also ioquake3 |
| 19:50 |
Calinou |
also GZDoom in software (it doesn't work in OpenGL mode) |
| 19:50 |
Calinou |
GZDoom software is cool, it has true freelook (no Y-shearing) and truecolor |
| 19:51 |
Calinou |
but sprites are Y-aligned, not XY-aligned, which I'd prefer |
| 19:51 |
Fixer |
Calinou: now imagine this, i've played Q2 about 17 years ago on actual PII with actual 3dfx card on actual windows 95, now thats depressing |
| 19:52 |
Fixer |
Calinou: it worked fine btw |
| 19:52 |
Fixer |
no idea what was the resolution though |
| 19:52 |
Fixer |
probably near 640*480 |
| 19:53 |
Fixer |
Q2 still works on my system, backwards compatibility for the win |
| 19:53 |
* benrob0329 |
is still young |
| 19:54 |
benrob0329 |
I wont say how young, but probably younger than some :D |
| 19:54 |
* octacian |
is younger than all of you :P |
| 19:54 |
Fixer |
kilbith: oc is not really that old at all, if he is ~50, he can live another 50 years btw |
| 19:54 |
Fixer |
if lucky |
| 19:54 |
Fixer |
depends on many factors |
| 19:55 |
IhrFussel |
Someone tried to tell me that "Debian has no security holes, Ubuntu does" I don't think that's true |
| 19:55 |
red-002 |
lol |
| 19:55 |
Fixer |
octacian: kids have sooo much these days |
| 19:55 |
Jordach__ |
IhrFussel, `holy shit |
| 19:55 |
octacian |
Technically.. He could live another 70 years, but incredibly unlikely. |
| 19:55 |
octacian |
heh |
| 19:55 |
Jordach__ |
that person must be really really naive |
| 19:55 |
benrob0329 |
Fixer: so much crap |
| 19:56 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: wat? |
| 19:56 |
red-002 |
technically he could be immortal |
| 19:56 |
benrob0329 |
Kids theese days have so much crap |
| 19:56 |
red-002 |
it's just highly unlikely |
| 19:56 |
octacian |
benrob0329: heh, Your mostly right |
| 19:56 |
IhrFussel |
Jordach__, I think the person is too overprotective...he also uses Minetest 0.4.13 still because "newer versions are unstable" |
| 19:57 |
Jordach__ |
IhrFussel, WAT |
| 19:57 |
benrob0329 |
the hell.. |
| 19:57 |
octacian |
IhrFussel: Wait... People EXIST that use anything older than 0.4.15? I personally rebuild at least once per week |
| 19:57 |
Jordach__ |
Minetest was never really unstable at any point in recent memory |
| 19:57 |
red-002 |
who is this?? |
| 19:57 |
Fixer |
red-002: depending on many factors, but there are statistical tables, if you are 50... you have 30 years more of expected lifetime, if you are 70 - N years, it is moving forward, it is weird %) |
| 19:57 |
Fixer |
Jordach__: it was |
| 19:57 |
Fixer |
Jordach__: stall bug |
| 19:58 |
benrob0329 |
0.4.12 was the most unstable in years |
| 19:58 |
octacian |
Seriously though... 0.4.13? RLY... |
| 19:58 |
Fixer |
IhrFussel: so nonsence, newer version does not nec-ry mean it is unstable, because older version are not fixed ;) |
| 19:59 |
Fixer |
IhrFussel: debian backports fixes into old version, minetest - is not |
| 19:59 |
Fixer |
so you stuck with outdated minetest that is in no way stable |
| 20:00 |
Fixer |
the only reason to wait before update is when new version is released and some mods may need (or not) to be adapted, apart from that - no problem |
| 20:00 |
Fixer |
LG2 still at 0.4.14.... |
| 20:00 |
Fixer |
shara will finally move |
| 20:01 |
Jordach__ |
Fixer, he's referring to someone else, not IhrFussel |
| 20:02 |
Shara |
But Fixer, moving is effort :) |
| 20:02 |
Fixer |
Shara: 060. CYBEREALITYライフ - MAKE A MOVE [2:51] |
| 20:03 |
VanessaE |
that's an oxymoron if I've ever heard one. |
| 20:03 |
Fixer |
Shara: VanessaE can update in few clicks, so do you :} |
| 20:03 |
Shara |
Fixer: actually I can't. |
| 20:03 |
Shara |
My server has taken wrecked set up to the point of being an artform. |
| 20:04 |
Shara |
The fact that it works and can have actual players on it at all is an actual miracle. |
| 20:04 |
IhrFussel |
He says he knows what he's talking about and that he uses Linux since 2003 etc ... he seems to be pretty stubborn |
| 20:04 |
Fixer |
Shara: you should have local copy of your mods, you update them via script and just test on new version, then you backup minetest 0.4.14 instance with world and installing new version |
| 20:05 |
Fixer |
IhrFussel: who? |
| 20:05 |
Shara |
When I update RC, things will break. Probably with many loud bangs. |
| 20:05 |
Fixer |
Shara: not at all |
| 20:05 |
Fixer |
Shara: depends on mods |
| 20:05 |
Shara |
It's not just about the mods :) |
| 20:06 |
Shara |
I actually manage my mods really well. It's just everything else :) |
| 20:06 |
Fixer |
Shara: backup (tm)(r)(c) |
| 20:06 |
Shara |
I haven't said I don't back up |
| 20:06 |
IhrFussel |
Fixer, someone on my server, he also plays on Xanadu I think "Hasi300" (not sure if you ever heard of him or talked to him) |
| 20:06 |
Fixer |
Shara: backup and update, let it burn :p |
| 20:06 |
VanessaE |
I should turn my scripts into a full minetest server management engine :) |
| 20:06 |
Shara |
No point before release |
| 20:07 |
IhrFussel |
It all started with "why are the fences no actual fences?" |
| 20:07 |
Fixer |
IhrFussel: debian stable is old software that manages too work and has backported security fixes |
| 20:07 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: s/stable/stale/ |
| 20:07 |
Fixer |
IhrFussel: it may be shitty old unstable software or really good old software |
| 20:07 |
Calinou |
Fixer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFYjSkUdfb4 |
| 20:07 |
Calinou |
Quake 2 console/PC ports video |
| 20:07 |
Fixer |
depends on phase of the moon |
| 20:08 |
Calinou |
worth a watch |
| 20:08 |
IhrFussel |
Isn't Ubuntu also Debian? AFAIK it's a modified Debian |
| 20:08 |
Fixer |
Karmak looks young |
| 20:08 |
Calinou |
probably him ~20 years ago |
| 20:08 |
Fixer |
or it is 90s Karmack :trollface: |
| 20:09 |
Fixer |
feels bad man |
| 20:09 |
Calinou |
when he had a better car and monitor than you :D |
| 20:09 |
Fixer |
Calinou: who the fuck plays Quake on console? |
| 20:09 |
Calinou |
no idea, apparently some people did |
| 20:09 |
Calinou |
Quake 3 on Dreamcast was a fairly popular thing apparently |
| 20:10 |
kilbith |
Fixer, I hope he won't live that old |
| 20:10 |
Fixer |
3dfx voodoo mentioned, nice |
| 20:10 |
Fixer |
i may have played on that |
| 20:12 |
Fixer |
Calinou: back in the day consoles we had we played Mario, Civisations, Racing, Wrestlemania, but I don't remember any single shooter, only 2D shooter, like Robocop |
| 20:12 |
Calinou |
Fixer: I watched the Quake 2 intro video yesterday too |
| 20:12 |
Calinou |
it looks kitsch by now :D |
| 20:14 |
Fixer |
I HAD SOUND 20 years ago |
| 20:14 |
Fixer |
in quake |
| 20:15 |
Fixer |
like this if you had sound 20 years ago too |
| 20:15 |
Fixer |
listened to some mp3 back then |
| 20:15 |
Fixer |
imagine retrieving that files from that HDD |
| 20:15 |
Fixer |
checking that bitrate |
| 20:17 |
Calinou |
Quake 1/2 did not use MP3 |
| 20:17 |
Calinou |
they used CD audio |
| 20:17 |
Calinou |
the GOG version of Quake 2 music, the Steam version does not for legal reason |
| 20:17 |
Calinou |
IIRC, both GOG and Steam versions of Quake 1 lack music |
| 20:17 |
Calinou |
(I have the Steam versions of Q1/Q2, so no music for me unless I rip it) |
| 20:18 |
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| 20:18 |
Fixer |
Calinou: no, no, i mean listening nonq2 related music in player while playing quake |
| 20:19 |
Fixer |
Calinou: music of that era in mp3 in 199X, now thats old (tm) |
| 20:19 |
Fixer |
Calinou: before winamp o_o |
| 20:19 |
Fixer |
Calinou: we had no CD audio anyway :} |
| 20:21 |
Fixer |
dynamic lights were cool |
| 20:22 |
Calinou |
Q1/Q2 dynamic lights were sharp, but lightened up dark areas |
| 20:22 |
Calinou |
Q3's dynamic lights were smoother, but multiplied the lightmap instead of adding to it (!) |
| 20:22 |
Calinou |
dark areas stayed dark, bright areas brightened |
| 20:22 |
Calinou |
it's stupid :( |
| 20:22 |
Calinou |
apparently it was done for performance reasons, but eg. Jedi Outcast (based on Quake 3 engine) made the lights lighten up dark areas |
| 20:24 |
Fixer |
i've played jedi outcast DEMO |
| 20:25 |
Fixer |
dl-ed recently full version, but have not played yet |
| 20:27 |
Fixer |
Calinou: demo CDs were fun and excitement |
| 20:28 |
Fixer |
you actually wanted to buy magazine with CD and check out those demos |
| 20:28 |
Fixer |
serious sam, ghost recon, etc etc |
| 20:31 |
Fixer |
Calinou: Q3 action was so fast - nobody noticed that stupidity |
| 20:31 |
Fixer |
Q1 was quite dark game |
| 20:32 |
Fixer |
Q2 was brighter, more lights, that pistol... |
| 20:32 |
Fixer |
rememba when game demo was like <100-200 mb? %) |
| 20:32 |
Fixer |
do this now |
| 20:33 |
Fixer |
50Gb behemoth |
| 20:35 |
Fixer |
i still remember some flight simulator on DOS, that was impressive |
| 20:35 |
Fixer |
dat visuals |
| 20:36 |
Fixer |
between playing that prehistoric guy :} |
| 20:36 |
Fixer |
it looked nice, so colorful |
| 20:36 |
red-002 |
hi Miner_48er |
| 20:36 |
Fixer |
*warmth* |
| 20:36 |
red-002 |
contact and Op'er if you want voice |
| 20:37 |
red-002 |
an* |
| 20:37 |
Fixer |
not this dull LCD TNFILM crap |
| 20:37 |
Fixer |
q2 - 53mb, q3 - 374mb |
| 20:37 |
Fixer |
no wait |
| 20:38 |
Fixer |
q1 - 53mb, q2 - 374mb |
| 20:38 |
Fixer |
q3 around 1 gb |
| 20:38 |
Fixer |
with some mods |
| 20:39 |
Fixer |
Hitman 47 demo colorized |
| 20:41 |
Calinou |
Q2 .pak files are around 200 MB |
| 20:42 |
Calinou |
Q3 around 480 MB |
| 20:42 |
Calinou |
50 MB for Q1 (pak0 + pak1) |
| 20:42 |
Calinou |
Fixer: I was looking for Midtown Madness 1/2 and Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2/3/4 yesterday |
| 20:42 |
Calinou |
couldn't find them for PC |
| 20:42 |
Fixer |
eduke32 1.66gb... mods |
| 20:42 |
Calinou |
they are not sold anymore, even on Steam/GOG it seems :'( |
| 20:42 |
Calinou |
I played these when I was young |
| 20:43 |
Calinou |
they all work in WINE apparently |
| 20:43 |
Fixer |
Calinou: i've played Tony Hawk's Pro Skater $someversion back then :} |
| 20:43 |
Miner_48er |
hi red |
| 20:43 |
Fixer |
Calinou: i have it |
| 20:43 |
Calinou |
I had THPS3 multiplayer once, was great |
| 20:43 |
Calinou |
there was a stage where you could grind infinitely |
| 20:43 |
Fixer |
Calinou: THPS3 |
| 20:43 |
Calinou |
and get millions of points |
| 20:43 |
Calinou |
THPS3 was the Quake 3 of skating :D |
| 20:43 |
Fixer |
Calinou: will pm you a link |
| 20:44 |
red-002 |
so what brings you here Miner_48er ? |
| 20:49 |
Miner_48er |
checking on the discussions to see what's changing |
| 20:50 |
Calinou |
yay, classic Quake Live freezetag (ie. non-instagib) is going on |
| 20:50 |
Calinou |
…but the server is full, you are in a queue to play |
| 20:50 |
Calinou |
I'm 3rd in queue right now :( |
| 21:01 |
Fixer |
Calinou: i've recognised the level from THPS3, indeed I've played it back then |
| 21:03 |
Calinou |
Fixer: IIRC THPS3 has Doomguy easter egg |
| 21:03 |
Calinou |
you can play him as a skater |
| 21:03 |
Calinou |
(it's the Q3 model) |
| 21:10 |
Jordach__ |
Calinou, no |
| 21:10 |
Jordach__ |
THUG[1/2] |
| 21:12 |
Fixer |
Calinou: https://thirteenag.github.io/wfp#thps3 |
| 21:14 |
Calinou |
hmm, thanks |
| 21:17 |
Fixer |
GTA SA has no widescreen support? o.O |
| 21:20 |
Calinou |
nope |
| 21:20 |
Calinou |
heck, Doom 3 did not IIRC |
| 21:20 |
Calinou |
(not sure)Ã |
| 21:20 |
Calinou |
-Ã |
| 21:20 |
Calinou |
but Half-Life 2 did |
| 21:20 |
Calinou |
it took devs (even the ones with widescreens, like Carmack) a lot of time to care about widescreen |
| 21:21 |
Fixer |
and people like me and VanessaE still use noncrippled screens :p |
| 21:22 |
Fixer |
if only I had 1600x1200 resolution |
| 21:22 |
VanessaE |
if it ain't a movie, fuck widescreen. |
| 21:22 |
VanessaE |
Fixer: Dell 2001FP |
| 21:22 |
VanessaE |
1600x1200, ~20" diagonal |
| 21:22 |
Calinou |
I like widescreen |
| 21:22 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: widescreen is good in excel, movies and other stuff though, but nonwidescreen is good for other cases |
| 21:22 |
VanessaE |
they're cheap on eBay, or they were when i got these |
| 21:22 |
Calinou |
though I would have liked to see more 16:10 or 3:2 options for laptops |
| 21:23 |
Fixer |
i want 16:10, extra height, but they cost shitton |
| 21:23 |
Calinou |
there's no consumer 16:10 displays anymore |
| 21:23 |
Calinou |
especially in high resolutions |
| 21:23 |
Fixer |
Calinou: at least 16:10 1920*1280 |
| 21:23 |
Calinou |
2560×1440 gives you more height though |
| 21:23 |
Calinou |
in pixels |
| 21:23 |
Calinou |
but to use it without scaling, you need 32" or something :P |
| 21:23 |
Calinou |
(like I have) |
| 21:23 |
Calinou |
so you have more usable vertical real estate than a 1920×1200 |
| 21:23 |
Fixer |
yeah, but i don't that much width |
| 21:23 |
Calinou |
and much more horizontal, too |
| 21:24 |
Calinou |
splitting windows horizontally finally becomes comfortable |
| 21:25 |
Fixer |
it is harder to multitask on 4:3/5:4 |
| 21:25 |
Fixer |
on the other hand multitasking can be bad |
| 21:25 |
Calinou |
anyway, thanks for widescreen fix list |
| 21:25 |
Fixer |
it is tempting to read IRC and watch some lets play |
| 21:25 |
* Calinou |
bookmarks |
| 21:25 |
Fixer |
but then quality of your attention goes down a lot |
| 21:26 |
Fixer |
i would like some 16:10 with some bad ass resolution :} |
| 21:27 |
Calinou |
I have 2 monitors anyway |
| 21:27 |
Calinou |
I multitask quite often :P |
| 21:27 |
Calinou |
Fixer: 3840×2400 technically exists, but is nowhere to be found at reasonable prices |
| 21:27 |
Calinou |
same for 4096×2160 ("true 4K") |
| 21:28 |
Fixer |
Calinou: ok, by bad ass i mean 1920*1200 %) |
| 21:28 |
Fixer |
Calinou: 24" Dell UltraSharp U2412M Black , hmm |
| 21:28 |
Fixer |
resolution is too smal |
| 21:28 |
Fixer |
l |
| 21:28 |
Fixer |
i mean size |
| 21:28 |
Fixer |
fuck |
| 21:28 |
Calinou |
Dell had a 3840×2160, OLED, 120 Hz display, 32" (I think) |
| 21:28 |
Fixer |
eizo monitors... hmmm |
| 21:28 |
Calinou |
but the price was "only Carmack can buy it", aka. €5,000, and it's no longer produced |
| 21:29 |
Calinou |
that said, I'd like to have > 60 Hz as my next upgrade |
| 21:29 |
Calinou |
but 3840×2160 (which I'd really like on desktop) and > 60 Hz is going to be truly hard and expensive to find |
| 21:29 |
Calinou |
maybe in 3 years? |
| 21:30 |
Fixer |
Calinou: i don't have that powerful videocard |
| 21:31 |
Fixer |
i'm fine with 1920*1200, ati hd6870 should handle this more or less in minetest :trollface: |
| 21:31 |
Fixer |
i don't play new games anyway |
| 21:31 |
Fixer |
since disk size requirements are immense |
| 21:32 |
Fixer |
Calinou: still waiting for final MechWarrior 3 fix... |
| 21:36 |
Fixer |
Carmack had amazing 2536*1536 monitors in 199X iirc |
| 21:37 |
Fixer |
iirc |
| 21:38 |
Fixer |
or something near it |
| 21:38 |
Fixer |
16:9 CRT o.O |
| 21:39 |
Fixer |
ah, he had 1920*1080 |
| 21:53 |
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| 22:08 |
Fixer |
2017 https://twitter.com/MariaConchita_A/status/849795520243433473 |
| 22:16 |
Calinou |
KaadmY, Fixer: https://lut.im/g5P0yWFgEO/KZk1RzxcHtLqHsLk.png |
| 22:16 |
Calinou |
I remember the cheat code for it, didn't have to look it up :D |
| 22:16 |
Calinou |
(I think you can guess what it is) |
| 22:16 |
Fixer |
nice |
| 22:32 |
benrob0329 |
the emoji movie...is a thing |
| 22:33 |
benrob0329 |
Tge |
| 22:33 |
benrob0329 |
The FRIGGEN EMOJI movie |
| 22:33 |
NathanS21 |
it is a thing, but that doesn't mean it's a good thing |
| 22:33 |
benrob0329 |
No, its not a good thing |
| 22:34 |
NathanS21 |
just like the poo emoji pillows |
| 22:34 |
benrob0329 |
And to think that I thought cartoons were going downhill a few years ago.. |
| 22:35 |
benrob0329 |
Oh...oh boy was I naive to what was in store |
| 22:38 |
Jordach__ |
benrob0329, N O R M I E T R A S H |
| 22:39 |
benrob0329 |
ｈï½ï½Œï½Œï½™ï½—ï½ï½ï½„＀ｃｒï½ï½ |
| 22:41 |
benrob0329 |
Oh btw matrix now syncs irc presence properly |
| 22:42 |
shivajiva |
2017-05-29 00:40:02: WARNING[Main]: Undeclared global variable "module" accessed at /usr/share/lua/5.1/ltn12.lua:14 |
| 22:43 |
shivajiva |
any ideas? |
| 22:52 |
VaultyLappy |
well methinks someone used lua |
| 22:53 |
Calinou |
benrob0329: https://xkcd.com/1813/ |
| 22:53 |
Calinou |
;) |
| 22:54 |
benrob0329 |
Calinou: lol |
| 22:54 |
benrob0329 |
What will we do when xkcd is no longer being produced? |
| 22:54 |
Calinou |
truth will stop existing on Earth? :( |
| 22:54 |
Shara |
Cry |
| 22:54 |
VanessaE |
recycle old issues? :) |
| 22:55 |
benrob0329 |
We'll just have to convince his son to continue the legacy |
| 23:08 |
red-002 |
bit offtopic but who was landmine? |
| 23:09 |
red-002 |
he seemed to host some servers? |
| 23:10 |
VanessaE |
red-002: a troll. |
| 23:10 |
VaultyLappy |
heres a question |
| 23:10 |
VanessaE |
practically professional level |
| 23:10 |
VaultyLappy |
say you had someone who said they'd host a server for you |
| 23:11 |
VaultyLappy |
but suddenly their internet isnt set up |
| 23:11 |
VaultyLappy |
and every week they say oh ill confront them and have it sorted |
| 23:11 |
red-002 |
ah so they where in the same business? |
| 23:11 |
VaultyLappy |
and this guy continues for 6 weeks would you say this person is full of crap? |
| 23:11 |
red-002 |
yes |
| 23:11 |
VaultyLappy |
thank you |
| 23:11 |
VanessaE |
VaultyLappy: I would say they're highly unreliable at best |
| 23:12 |
VanessaE |
"full of crap" is a bit strong, but it depends on the person |
| 23:12 |
red-002 |
^ |
| 23:12 |
red-002 |
anyway you don't want to trust them with server hosting |
| 23:12 |
VanessaE |
agreed. |
| 23:13 |
VaultyLappy |
thanks |
| 23:13 |
red-002 |
wow elitebnc sure gets a lot of hate |
| 23:13 |
VaultyLappy |
my friends been getting bs with the same excuses for 6 weeks |
| 23:14 |
red-002 |
they had to suspend issuing accounts again due to ddos attacks, etc |
| 23:14 |
VanessaE |
definitely find a better host then, VaultyLappy |
| 23:14 |
VanessaE |
who's elitebnc? |
| 23:15 |
VaultyLappy |
thank you I appreciate the input alot |
| 23:15 |
VaultyLappy |
I had many people barking at me saying how in the wrong I was for saying it wasnt right and hes a bad host |
| 23:15 |
diegom |
<benrob0329> ｈï½ï½Œï½Œï½™ï½—ï½ï½ï½„＀ｃｒï½ï½ |
| 23:16 |
diegom |
for the last time, fix your damn script :P |
| 23:16 |
diegom |
full-width space is U+3000, not U+FF00 |
| 23:16 |
red-002 |
VaultyLappy, a znc-based irc bouncer service |
| 23:17 |
red-002 |
ehh |
| 23:17 |
red-002 |
tab failure |
| 23:17 |
Fixer |
how you even type this.... |
| 23:17 |
red-002 |
VanessaE, ^ |
| 23:17 |
VanessaE |
red-002: oh ok. I just use znc itself |
| 23:17 |
VanessaE |
(with the bouncer running on daconcepts.com) |
| 23:17 |
diegom |
oh, benrob's not here |
| 23:18 |
red-002 |
I guess if you have a server already thats the best choice |
| 23:18 |
diegom |
wait he is |
| 23:18 |
red-002 |
if you don't want to pay for a server it's either this or a free shell/vps |
| 23:18 |
Fixer |
U+FF00 |
| 23:19 |
diegom |
ï½ï½ï½‡ï½‰ï½ƒ |
| 23:19 |
VaultyLappy |
red-002, eh just issues with people but thanks |
| 23:19 |
rubenwardy |
I have a server already, just CBA to set it up |
| 23:19 |
diegom |
ï½ï½ï½‡ï½‰ï½ƒã€€ï½—ｉｔｈ　ｓï½ï½ï½ƒï½…ｓ |
| 23:19 |
VaultyLappy |
rubenwardy, noice |
| 23:20 |
diegom |
Fixer, hexchat? |
| 23:20 |
Fixer |
quassel |
| 23:20 |
rubenwardy |
need to dockerize my server at some point |
| 23:20 |
diegom |
oh :( |
| 23:20 |
rubenwardy |
or somehow script it |
| 23:20 |
diegom |
no scripting I guess |
| 23:20 |
rubenwardy |
I want to be able to ditch my current VPS and switch to a new one at a moments notice if I need to |
| 23:44 |
Fixer |
http://files.explosm.net/comics/Matt/We-can-rebuild-him.-More-dickish-than-ever-before..png |
| 23:59 |
Fixer |
http://files.explosm.net/comics/Matt/all-the-more-reason-to-continue-drinking.png |
