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IRC log for #minetest-hub, 2017-05-02

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01:39 benrob0329_ The Rhythm of Red Cat: https://youtu.be/hm5u1cT8kzg
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02:59 benrob0329 Hi keaza
03:00 benrob0329 *kaeza
03:00 kaeza hi benrob0329
03:01 benrob0329 Did you see the new video?
03:04 benrob0329 kaeza: https://youtu.be/hm5u1cT8kzg
03:06 VanessaE no video for my server yet? :(
03:06 benrob0329 Not yea
03:06 benrob0329 *yet
03:07 benrob0329 Not bringing my computer to a hault helps too ;-)
03:08 kaeza benrob0329, haven't yet
03:08 kaeza still recovering :(
03:08 benrob0329 :-(
03:12 VanessaE what happened?
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03:27 kaeza TL;DR, hard drive died
03:57 VanessaE damn.
03:58 sofar Fe2O3 sucks
03:58 VanessaE SSD ftw :)
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08:55 Shara Morning all
08:56 Amaz Morning Shara :)
08:56 Amaz Nice video on RedCat that benrob did :D
08:56 Shara Yea, he did an awesome job of that :)
08:56 Shara We all had a lot of fun while he was filming it as well
08:57 Amaz :)
08:57 Shara Even got a couple of my own builds in :D
08:57 Shara Which is impressive given how little I play the game anymore
08:58 Shara But it made me realise just how big the server got. There was way too much stuff to show him.
08:58 Amaz Awesome :)
09:01 Shara Got to convince him to do more sometime :)
09:01 Amaz :)
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09:06 tenplus1 hi folks
09:06 Shara Hi 11 :P
09:06 tenplus1 mornin shara :P
09:07 Shara How goes? :)
09:07 red-002 https://github.com/MrCerealGuy/Stonecraft/tree/4df1b5e9414bde44e3f3f12eec6c268f0133a4cf/src/script/cpp_mods/ethereal
09:07 tenplus1 almost finished chores, having breakky :P
09:08 tenplus1 you made ethereal into c++ code ???
09:08 red-002 not me
09:08 red-002 I'm not crazy
09:08 tenplus1 lolol... whyyyyyyyy?
09:09 Shara to be honest, the mods picked there so far would put me right off using that :P
09:09 Amaz Morning twentyminus9
09:09 Amaz :P
09:09 tenplus1 hi amaz
09:09 Shara last I checked, nssm has such huge model and texture sizes that it just isn't practical
09:09 red-002 pushing stuff onto the lua stack form c so that a diffrent c interface can read it
09:10 tenplus1 nssm is great for singleplayer adventure type games, but not for servers... faaaar too huge
09:10 Shara was going to add ridable phoenix to DL until I saw how huge the model was
09:10 tenplus1 lol
09:11 tenplus1 I dare say the models themselves arent so huge, but the animation itself... so smoooth
09:11 Shara I'm pretty sure it was the model
09:11 Shara was a while back though
09:11 tenplus1 the model file contains the model data AND animation data...  the animation is so smooth and has many attacks it may be that causing huge sizes
09:12 Shara hmm
09:12 * Shara shrugs
09:12 tenplus1 must be a way to shrink it down tho...
09:12 Shara Annnd this is why I don't touch modeling :)
09:12 tenplus1 eheheh
09:12 Shara If you ever work that out, let me know, because it had a couple of mobs I would really like
09:13 Shara The phoenix,a nd I think it had some kind of ice snake thing
09:13 tenplus1 only model I touched was slopes and stairs in Stairs Redo.. managed to get them shrunk down
09:15 Shara I had to change rotation of models for other_worlds, because Electra doesn't use Blender and the rotation of anything she makes is usually weird, but that's all I've done :P
09:16 tenplus1 erk
09:16 tenplus1 model work is so fiddly
09:16 Shara She makes such pretty stuff for other games, that asking her to make something so small and simple for MT almost felt like a crime :D
09:17 tenplus1 :P
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09:50 tenplus1 hi fixer
09:53 Fixer hi
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12:56 Wayward_One hi all
13:01 Fixer hi
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14:18 benrob0329 Hi tenplus1, Fixer, RobbieF, Shara, Amaz, Wayward_One, and red-002
14:18 red-002 hi
14:18 Fixer hi, no need to highlight each person
14:18 benrob0329 True
14:18 Amaz Hi :P
14:19 benrob0329 Shara: I think that I have to come back and do a part 2
14:19 benrob0329 Because right now we may have the rhythm of Red Cat
14:20 benrob0329 But we still need tge rhyme :PP
14:28 RobbieF hi benrob0329  :p
14:29 RobbieF Yes Fixer, otherwise I wouldn't have even known he said hi
14:33 Wayward_One hi benrob0329 :)
14:34 benrob0329 So what is everybody up to today?
14:35 Wayward_One watching Top Gear before my final :3
14:38 Shara benrob0329: Hahaha! Feel free :D
14:38 Shara You and your filming are welcome any time
14:39 benrob0329 My plan is to start spacing the server videos out a bit
14:39 benrob0329 Like, I'm going to do one more, then stop for a bit
14:40 benrob0329 But come back and do one every so often :-)
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14:40 Shara You'll do other kinds of videos as well?
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15:01 red-001 hi?
15:02 benrob0329 Hello
15:02 red-001 looks like my bnc timed out or something
15:03 benrob0329 Your Bulk Nuclear Countdown?
15:03 red-001 well no
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15:04 red-001 I guess it was getting DDos'ed or something
15:04 red-001 bnc = bouncer
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16:22 Krock o/
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16:36 paramat stonecraft moved ethereal into cpp when the biome API already runs as fast core code? O_o
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16:56 Fixer what is stonecraft?
16:57 red-001 minetest clone on itch.io
16:57 Fixer sigh
16:57 red-001 paramat they got rid of it by now
16:57 red-001 thankfully
16:57 Fixer that fonts....
17:03 nore paramat: their "cpp api" was actually lua api, but the mod was translated into C with lua2c which made it even less efficient if it used luajit :)
17:03 paramat =/
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18:36 benrob0329 Hi octacian_
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18:41 octacian hey benrob0329
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19:45 benrob0329 Hi halt_, nerzhul
19:45 benrob0329 garrywhite
19:46 nerzhul hi benrob0329
19:48 paramat question about LVM memory optimisation https://github.com/minetest-mods/technic/commit/eb344ad804aa83570ccda9a5886733d8b42aa598#commitcomment-21986162 any ideas?
20:04 nerzhul get_data is very slow because you will copy the whole C++ memory to Lua memory stack
20:05 nerzhul each object you pass to Lua is copied to Lua memory, it's why Lua will be slow and you should avoid having many atomic calls and have high level calls in core
20:07 paramat looks like 'local data = vm:get_data(sulfur_buf)' would fail as an optimisation
20:08 paramat so anyone know if these 2 variable names must be the same? i suspect so
20:08 nerzhul what is sulfur_buf ? if it's a memory buffer it will be slow
20:09 paramat the intention is to re-use the 'data' table instead of creating a new one
20:09 paramat to save memory use
20:10 paramat data is a flat array of content ids for the entire voxelmanip volume
20:10 paramat often 112^3
20:11 nerzhul okay, then you want a pointer to CPP data offered to Lua ?
20:12 paramat no idea, do not understand stuff like that
20:12 paramat it's ok, i'll email hmmmm
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20:43 paramat well, i will not actually, no need
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20:54 nerzhul paramat, no need yes, you can read lua documentation it's welldone
20:55 nerzhul and we already have some CPP objects near Lua in core just look at the code
20:55 nerzhul our Lua stack is a bit low level, when C++11 will code i think i will refactor using C++ interfaces to permit better coding performance without affecting code performance
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22:19 Fixer can i have one sign?
22:21 benrob0329 *a sign*
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22:30 sofar bwarden: welcome, didn't see you in here until now :)
22:31 bwarden Heh, I've been lurking for days.
22:31 Fixer rubywarden?
22:33 sofar bwarden: lemme know if you want introductions or anything
22:40 * Shara wondered the same thing Fixer did.
22:41 Fixer we have cloned rubenwardy :O
22:41 Shara Ekk.
22:41 Shara bwarden: whoever you may be, hello and welcome.
22:41 bwarden Thanks :) I don't know rubywarden; I'm a new face here.
22:41 Shara New faces are good.
22:50 sofar bwarden is a fellow colleague

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