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benrob0329 |
o/ |
| 00:12 |
garywhite |
There is now a Minetest-specific image hosting site at pics.planetminetest.ml. Feel free to take a look |
| 00:12 |
garywhite |
(WIP) |
| 00:15 |
benrob0329 |
garrywhite: wont load for me |
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benrob0329 |
Hi paramat |
| 00:38 |
garywhite |
Try mtimg,ml |
| 00:43 |
benrob0329 |
That works |
| 00:45 |
benrob0329 |
Id probably change thd background image to something MT related however |
| 00:49 |
garywhite |
Working on it |
| 00:49 |
garywhite |
It'll be done in a little while |
| 01:29 |
paramat |
hi benrob0329 i just remembered you tried my moonrealm mod, it has been updated with a new mapgen and a moon rover https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6329 |
| 01:30 |
benrob0329 |
paramat: oh, cool! |
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octacian |
Wait.. The player collision box ISN'T static? |
| 02:02 |
octacian |
ugh so confusing |
| 02:02 |
octacian |
Guess it is |
| 02:02 |
octacian |
Why is taht? |
| 02:02 |
octacian |
*that |
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benrob0329 |
!ping |
| 04:18 |
ShadowBot |
pong |
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VanessaE |
hi/ |
| 04:22 |
benrob0329 |
VanessaE: o/ |
| 04:29 |
octacian |
Night all |
| 04:29 |
nore |
night |
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benrob0329 |
greetings kaeza |
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kaeza |
meow |
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nerzhul |
yeah: nearly complete: https://gitlab.com/nerzhul/minetest/pipelines/7760565 :D just need to fix the leveldb package on failed builds :) |
| 08:26 |
shivajiva |
Morning folks |
| 08:27 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 08:58 |
red-000 |
does archive.org have an api to save pages? |
| 08:58 |
nerzhul |
fucking oldcoder sending me fucking message |
| 08:58 |
nerzhul |
seems thunderbird doesn't have an ignore list i should use another client at work |
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red-000 |
bad connection? |
| 09:04 |
VanessaE |
well he finally forced my hand. first time in years I've had to /ignore someone |
| 09:04 |
red-000 |
OC? |
| 09:04 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 09:05 |
nerzhul |
VanessaE, same thing :) |
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shivajiva |
Hi Fixer o/ |
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| 12:33 |
Fixer |
hi |
| 12:33 |
VanessaE |
hi |
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| 12:53 |
CWz |
a VanessaE |
| 12:53 |
* CWz |
is reading chatlogs regarding a ddos |
| 12:55 |
sfan5 |
keep your popcorn ready |
| 13:16 |
Jordach |
wat |
| 13:17 |
* Jordach |
needs context and what channel |
| 13:25 |
CWz |
Jordach, #minetest-dev (irc logs) keywords: OldCoder, DDOS, rampage. |
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| 13:27 |
Jordach |
CWz, have a pint, and wait for this to all blow over https://media.giphy.com/media/Zw3oBUuOlDJ3W/giphy.gif |
| 13:33 |
Jordach |
it appears i sensed something wrong when asleep ths morning |
| 13:34 |
* Jordach |
thinks this goes further back |
| 13:34 |
Jordach |
it's not OC's fault here what's going on |
| 13:35 |
Jordach |
i see it now |
| 13:35 |
benrob0329 |
Hm? |
| 13:35 |
Jordach |
it goes back a few years |
| 13:37 |
Jordach |
Minetest was considerably more community like |
| 13:37 |
Calinou |
hi benrob0329 |
| 13:37 |
Calinou |
hi Jordach |
| 13:37 |
Jordach |
and actually, the biggest remark was our favourite Polish shader merchant |
| 13:37 |
Calinou |
I remember OldCoder when he joined, he already kept saying blank lines on IRC :) |
| 13:39 |
Jordach |
somewhere between 2013-15 is where it occurred |
| 13:39 |
Jordach |
specifically |
| 13:39 |
Jordach |
basically, core devs stopped being elitist at that time |
| 13:39 |
Jordach |
it is also the time when RBA "left" |
| 13:40 |
Jordach |
(i would assume it's the new core devs who would've more openly accepted his pulls now) |
| 13:41 |
Jordach |
(see so-far, nrzk-t, etc) |
| 13:45 |
Jordach |
basically, i woke up when RBA shouldn't be here |
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| 13:54 |
Jordach |
shivajiva, i'm suspicious we didn;t get the full details |
| 13:55 |
shivajiva |
from whom? |
| 13:56 |
Jordach |
i'm suspicious about the messages from RBA's family |
| 13:56 |
Jordach |
there's a missing story here |
| 13:56 |
shivajiva |
yea I realise that is why you used the term 'left' |
| 13:56 |
Jordach |
RBA never told us he had heart problems |
| 13:56 |
Jordach |
that there is a flag on it's onw |
| 13:57 |
shivajiva |
why would he though? |
| 13:57 |
Jordach |
you ask me ;) |
| 13:57 |
shivajiva |
only OC has stated medical problems in this community afaik |
| 13:58 |
Jordach |
now you understand why i'm suspicous |
| 13:58 |
Jordach |
he finished the minimap then vanished, i wonder |
| 13:58 |
Jordach |
i didn't pay attention as i was busy getting college done |
| 13:59 |
shivajiva |
more suspicious is the fact a friend of his was able to access everything on his computer and ask for donations |
| 13:59 |
Jordach |
i didn't pay attention as i was busy getting college done |
| 13:59 |
Jordach |
feck |
| 13:59 |
Jordach |
i hit up arrow and then enter |
| 13:59 |
Jordach |
lmao |
| 13:59 |
shivajiva |
:) |
| 13:59 |
Jordach |
hammer head -> nail |
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| 14:00 |
Jordach |
he would've told me specifically, as i tested technic for him on VE-S |
| 14:00 |
Jordach |
(or was it an OC server) |
| 14:01 |
CWz |
Controversy? i am confused |
| 14:01 |
Jordach |
CWz, RBA got up and left after finishing the minimap |
| 14:02 |
Jordach |
wouldn't he have never finished it if it was for "real" |
| 14:02 |
shivajiva |
regardless of all this one thing is for sure, his friends here don't need to be distressed, the only person that brought it up was OC |
| 14:02 |
Jordach |
shivajiva, RBA did talk to OC frequently |
| 14:03 |
Jordach |
i may be able to restore my old Quassel logs |
| 14:03 |
Jordach |
i have the original database before it |
| 14:03 |
shivajiva |
I believe so, RBA checked me out discreetly, he built on skyblocks amongst other places |
| 14:05 |
shivajiva |
I actually finished his last build and protected it as a kind of memorial :/ |
| 14:06 |
* Jordach |
loads the 300k SQLITE |
| 14:06 |
CWz |
So what's really going on here |
| 14:08 |
* Jordach |
now pulls apart the 300mb quassel storage |
| 14:08 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/hsOwd7N.png |
| 14:09 |
CWz |
this reaching creepypasta territory |
| 14:09 |
Jordach |
CWz, it's a good thing i backed up my quassel storage |
| 14:11 |
benrob0329 |
I am done with this shit. |
| 14:11 |
* Jordach |
crashed the DB browser |
| 14:11 |
benrob0329 |
You know, I looked up to OC. Guess I was mistaken. |
| 14:12 |
shivajiva |
I think a lot of us did benrob |
| 14:12 |
Fixer |
what the actual fuck what tha? |
| 14:13 |
benrob0329 |
A child, Fixer. Or that's what it looks like anyways. |
| 14:14 |
* Jordach |
is extracting the entire RBA backlog |
| 14:15 |
Jordach |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGv6k3-2D3s&feature=youtu.be found these; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atJ_lovDYWs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7LcggphDeA&feature=youtu.be |
| 14:15 |
Fixer |
Jordach: one minetest, one codebase, one kwolekr |
| 14:15 |
* Fixer |
keks |
| 14:16 |
Jordach |
Fixer, quassel put it in UNIX time, fun fact |
| 14:16 |
Jordach |
1418330005 |
| 14:17 |
Fixer |
Jordach: btw, don't worry about elitism, when kwolekr goes back from whatever megahugeglobalcorp - we are fuuuuuuuuucked |
| 14:18 |
shivajiva |
I think I need some reference to understand that :P |
| 14:18 |
Fixer |
it will halt, because not quality enough, each review needs to be at least 30 min with actual reading of code and testing-testing-testing, so minetest is ready for usage in production on your nuclear power plant control VAX machine |
| 14:19 |
benrob0329 |
Lol |
| 14:20 |
CWz |
minetest sure seems to attract some weirdo nowadays |
| 14:20 |
CWz |
*weirdos |
| 14:20 |
shivajiva |
thanks =) |
| 14:21 |
Fixer |
CWz: that was already noted in -dev long time ago |
| 14:22 |
* shivajiva |
boots up tb to check the news |
| 14:25 |
shivajiva |
defamatory of upstream as expected |
| 14:25 |
Jordach |
using a ton of CPU time to export that thing into it's own libreoffice table |
| 14:26 |
Zeno` |
Are you guys seriously suggesting that RBA is alive? |
| 14:26 |
Jordach |
Zeno`, something doesn't feel right at all |
| 14:26 |
benrob0329 |
Yes, they are. |
| 14:26 |
Zeno` |
Look. He died. It's sad. DROP IT |
| 14:27 |
Zeno` |
FFS. Don't all turn into paranoid idiots like OC |
| 14:27 |
benrob0329 |
I've heard some conspiracies in my time, this takes the cake. |
| 14:27 |
Fixer |
Jordach: vanessa heared about rba hearth problems iirc |
| 14:27 |
red-000 |
this RBA is alive stuff really annoys me on so many levels |
| 14:27 |
Zeno` |
Next you'll be tellin be that he's living with Elvis and Diana princess of Wales |
| 14:28 |
CWz |
Hey sir Zeno` |
| 14:28 |
Zeno` |
just stop it. It's an atrocity to his memory |
| 14:28 |
red-000 |
^ |
| 14:29 |
Zeno` |
hi CWz |
| 14:30 |
CWz |
i wonder what happened with him, he was always 'unique', but lately he seemd to go off the deep end with all these accusations and "de-escalations" |
| 14:31 |
Fixer |
Zeno`: +1 |
| 14:32 |
red-000 |
-> #minetest-conspiracies |
| 14:35 |
CWz |
Zeno`-sama, how are you? |
| 14:35 |
Zeno` |
right now? Sick of all the shit that is going on :D |
| 14:36 |
Jordach |
CWz, i'm broken by what's happened to me for years |
| 14:36 |
* red-000 |
looks for a japanese honorifics cheat sheet |
| 14:36 |
* Jordach |
is unable to emotionally process things |
| 14:36 |
CWz |
Actually i was talking about OC |
| 14:39 |
red-000 |
huh so -sama is suppose to be the most formal |
| 14:41 |
* CWz |
spots VanessaE-sama sleeping on tree branch |
| 14:41 |
red-000 |
now how do I use it to be sarcastic? |
| 14:45 |
benrob0329 |
You know, someone once said they hated sarcasm. you wanna know what my reply was? |
| 14:46 |
benrob0329 |
*sarcastic response* |
| 15:37 |
benrob0329 |
!ping |
| 15:37 |
ShadowBot |
pong |
| 15:37 |
red-000 |
!pong |
| 15:46 |
benrob0329 |
Has anyone here used Haiku? (The BeOS clone) |
| 15:46 |
Jordach |
no |
| 15:47 |
benrob0329 |
Does anyone really use it at all? |
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| 15:50 |
Jordach |
no |
| 15:53 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: RBA told me about his heart problems some months before his death. |
| 15:53 |
VanessaE |
he had severe high blood pressure |
| 15:54 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, aye |
| 15:54 |
VanessaE |
but that's all I can remember |
| 15:54 |
VanessaE |
my grep-fu isn't very good or I'd dig through my logs for more |
| 15:54 |
VanessaE |
also, you can export quassel logs to plain text, there's some tool for the purpose on the site. |
| 15:54 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, quassel put them in SQL so searching is reasonable easier |
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| 16:21 |
Krock |
hello |
| 16:21 |
VanessaE |
hi |
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| 17:02 |
CWz |
ello Vanessa of E |
| 17:03 |
garywhite |
Can someone grant rdococ voice? |
| 17:03 |
Krock |
I thought it was anessaE of V, CWz |
| 17:03 |
benrob0329 |
Vanessa, daughter of E. |
| 17:05 |
Shara |
Hi :P |
| 17:05 |
rdococ |
hi |
| 17:05 |
* CWz |
wonders if Dococ is short for Doctor Octopus |
| 17:06 |
VanessaE |
HI, CWz |
| 17:06 |
* rdococ |
wonders if CWz was short for ClockWise Zakk |
| 17:06 |
* rdococ |
starts thinking about linguistics |
| 17:06 |
CWz |
Uh, who's he? |
| 17:06 |
VanessaE |
ChaosWormz, actuallyt |
| 17:06 |
VanessaE |
-t |
| 17:07 |
rdococ |
well, now I'm thinking about string addition and subtraction :P |
| 17:07 |
rubenwardy |
red-000 ++ |
| 17:07 |
rdococ |
rdococ++ :P |
| 17:07 |
rdococ |
oh look, now C++ is in my name :P |
| 17:07 |
rubenwardy |
:) |
| 17:07 |
rdococ |
(rdococ#) |
| 17:08 |
rdococ |
red-001 += 999 |
| 17:08 |
Wayward_One |
benrob0329, i've used Haiku |
| 17:08 |
Wayward_One |
it's pretty decent |
| 17:08 |
benrob0329 |
Looks like it needs a facelift to me |
| 17:08 |
rdococ |
and that is how you subtract with addition :P |
| 17:09 |
red-000 |
well that annoyed some people on the minecraft channel |
| 17:09 |
red-000 |
lol |
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| 17:09 |
red-000 |
I guess I change my nick too much |
| 17:09 |
red-000 |
hi Thomas-S |
| 17:09 |
red-000 |
eh |
| 17:10 |
red-000 |
I mean ThomasMonroe |
| 17:10 |
Thomas-S |
Hi, red-000! (Although you didn't mean me) :) |
| 17:11 |
benrob0329 |
red += red + 2 |
| 17:11 |
rdococ |
I tend to never change my nick, because otherwise every channel I'm on will notice |
| 17:11 |
rdococ |
benrob0329, how do you perform arithmetic on colors? |
| 17:11 |
rdococ |
:P |
| 17:11 |
VanessaE |
'red' is a variable, duh :) |
| 17:11 |
rdococ |
ik :P |
| 17:12 |
red-002 |
base10_int red = 2; |
| 17:12 |
rdococ |
of course, red-002 != red // infact, red-002 == red - 2 |
| 17:12 |
benrob0329 |
red += (-2) |
| 17:12 |
benrob0329 |
Wait, ah crap |
| 17:14 |
rdococ |
hm |
| 17:14 |
rdococ |
red = 1 / 0 |
| 17:14 |
red-000 |
red-NaN |
| 17:14 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 17:14 |
benrob0329 |
*univers implodes* |
| 17:15 |
red-000 |
I'm accually get that nick now |
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| 17:16 |
red-000 |
if I remember how to drop nicks again |
| 17:16 |
nerzhul |
o |
| 17:16 |
benrob0329 |
Msg NickServe drop nick |
| 17:28 |
roben1430 |
I should register this nick |
| 17:30 |
ThomasMonroe |
thanks Shara |
| 17:30 |
red-NaN |
yes, yes you should |
| 17:31 |
Shara |
ThomasMonroe: you're welcome :) |
| 17:38 |
CWz |
i wonder if anyone has made a client side mod yet |
| 17:39 |
Shara |
I thought there were a couple already, but haven't checked them. |
| 17:40 |
red-NaN |
CWz, they have |
| 17:41 |
red-NaN |
I made a chat logger |
| 17:41 |
rdococ |
red = string.concat("your", red) |
| 17:42 |
rdococ |
:P |
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| 17:59 |
* VanessaE |
wanders off to sleep |
| 18:01 |
CWz |
[rant] why does cocoa have an 'a' at the end? it's pronounced coco. damn human and their obsessive compulsive need to add superfluous letters to words.[/rant] |
| 18:05 |
benrob0329 |
sfan5 tbh, I uses to think your name was stan5 :p |
| 18:05 |
benrob0329 |
*used |
| 18:06 |
CWz |
the [off] is a talisman for fortune and good luck |
| 18:07 |
red-NaN |
us* |
| 18:09 |
Shara |
Anyone who does not have auto-voice, feel free to PM me. |
| 18:10 |
Jordach |
it does work, red-NaN |
| 18:10 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/9LAOzNG.png |
| 18:10 |
* red-NaN |
thinks thats really neat |
| 18:10 |
sfan5 |
is that the_donald |
| 18:10 |
Jordach |
no |
| 18:11 |
benrob0329 |
I aught to make a bouncer |
| 18:11 |
Sokomine |
hi. hm. problem with recent mt: it looks er...odd. what ought to be white has become blue. red seems to be missing. solid blocks still look perfectly ok in color - but all else (meshes, plants etc.) looks very blueish |
| 18:12 |
benrob0329 |
Sokomine: Win or Linux? |
| 18:12 |
sfan5 |
known bug |
| 18:12 |
sfan5 |
already fixed |
| 18:12 |
CWz |
it originated in 1680 BC, the [off] talisman was created by the 8 priests of the now defunct nation lacatraz in order to spook away, demons, evil spirits, lawyers, real estate agents, and tax collectors. later in 56 BC they were unearthed when the duke of another defunct state of smellulater was out on fart work, he tripped over it and discovered that he wasn't in smellulater but just a lunatic in some dank asylum, which of course turned out ot be false |
| 18:12 |
CWz |
in the end, he still was in smellulater |
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| 18:12 |
CWz |
dang to late now it not revent anymore |
| 18:13 |
Jordach |
rekt |
| 18:13 |
benrob0329 |
pwnd |
| 18:14 |
* benrob0329 |
checks github |
| 18:20 |
benrob0329 |
As for #5586 is light stored in a signed int? |
| 18:21 |
rdococ |
if it is then we could have negative light, oooh |
| 18:21 |
sfan5 |
i'm sure it isn#t |
| 18:22 |
benrob0329 |
Unsigned byte :-( |
| 18:22 |
Krock |
that copypasta.. |
| 18:23 |
Sokomine |
sfan5: thanks. *compiling again* |
| 18:31 |
* rdococ |
decompiles a recompilation of nothing |
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| 18:34 |
Krock |
good luck translating badass optimized machine code into assembler then into C(++) again |
| 18:35 |
sofar |
hehe |
| 18:40 |
* rdococ |
recompiles a decompilation of nothing |
| 18:42 |
Fixer |
was reading todays -dev log, holy shit |
| 18:44 |
red-NaN |
yeah |
| 18:44 |
benrob0329 |
Should I learn C, or C++ if I'm planning on doing app/game dev? |
| 18:44 |
sfan5 |
latter |
| 18:45 |
paramat |
well duh |
| 18:45 |
benrob0329 |
Mk, thanks |
| 18:45 |
paramat |
MT is C++ :] |
| 18:45 |
benrob0329 |
True :-) |
| 18:45 |
paramat |
hehe |
| 18:47 |
benrob0329 |
I've learned some cpp in the past, just dropped out of it for various reasons |
| 18:48 |
benrob0329 |
I was learning C, as per OC's advice, but after a bit of reasesrch a lot of people say that you should just jump into (modern) Cpp first |
| 18:52 |
Calinou |
yeah, no real point in C unless you're writing device drivers |
| 18:53 |
Calinou |
games use C++ these days |
| 18:53 |
Calinou |
Qt is C++, too |
| 18:53 |
Calinou |
a lot of open source apps (qBittorrent, LibreOffice) are C++, as far as I know |
| 18:53 |
Calinou |
Firefox too |
| 18:53 |
Calinou |
benrob0329: I like http://www.learncpp.com/ |
| 18:53 |
Calinou |
(many ads, so use an ad blocker :P) |
| 19:03 |
benrob0329 |
Heh, I always do (except youtube, I don't there |
| 19:03 |
benrob0329 |
Ty |
| 19:10 |
Hijiri |
C can be useful for library interfaces |
| 19:10 |
Hijiri |
since basically everything that can call foreign code can call C code |
| 19:16 |
lumidify |
C is beautiful |
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sofar |
there's no good answer btw |
| 19:17 |
sofar |
if you have found a project that you would like to work on, then use what they are using |
| 19:17 |
sofar |
if you really don't know, learn something that is generic enough to give you the skills to work on most projects |
| 19:17 |
sofar |
iow, either c or c++ will give you plenty of skills |
| 19:18 |
sofar |
c++ is heavily used in games, for good reasons |
| 19:18 |
sofar |
but so is c# and a bunch of other languages |
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paramat |
hint: MT uses C++ |
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tenplus1 |
hi folks |
| 19:18 |
lumidify |
http://9front.org/img/cmonks.png |
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Shara |
Hi Ten |
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tenplus1 |
hi Shara :P |
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lumidify |
Hi square root of 121 |
| 19:20 |
tenplus1 |
lol, hi lumidify |
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benrob0329 |
Hi tenplus1 |
| 19:21 |
tenplus1 |
hey ben |
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tenplus1 |
I see tin made it into default :P |
| 19:21 |
benrob0329 |
\o/ |
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benrob0329 |
\/ |
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benrob0329 |
Crap |
| 19:21 |
benrob0329 |
HoloIRC can't make a slash apparently |
| 19:22 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
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benrob0329 |
\o/ |
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benrob0329 |
\ |
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benrob0329 |
Gosh dangit |
| 19:23 |
tenplus1 |
We NEED these added now: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5622 and https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5255 |
| 19:23 |
Wayward_One |
Hi all :) |
| 19:23 |
tenplus1 |
hi wayward |
| 19:23 |
benrob0329 |
Hi |
| 19:24 |
benrob0329 |
Does C++ still use free() ? |
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sofar |
yes |
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sofar |
but most stuff you would delete |
| 19:26 |
sofar |
in C you can still malloc() memory, so free() still exists as well |
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sofar |
but most stuff you would allocate with new() and therefore delete() it |
| 19:27 |
Fixer |
i'm not a programmer but what i dislike in c/cpp are those security issues, buffer overflows, etcetc |
| 19:27 |
lumidify |
http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/ |
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* lumidify |
hides |
| 19:28 |
Fixer |
and java feels toxic |
| 19:28 |
Fixer |
because oracle |
| 19:28 |
Fixer |
not completely opensource |
| 19:28 |
Fixer |
needs installing on windows |
| 19:29 |
Fixer |
iirc long ago it was shipped with windows 98 or so |
| 19:29 |
sofar |
unless you're a professional software developer, language choices are largely irrelevant |
| 19:29 |
Calinou |
Java *is* fully open source |
| 19:29 |
Calinou |
some implementations aren't |
| 19:29 |
Calinou |
the documentation isn't |
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sofar |
raise your hand if you are a professional software developer |
| 19:29 |
Calinou |
but other than that, there's no particular issue |
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* sofar |
raises hand |
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* tenplus1 |
raises foot |
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* Calinou |
raises hoof |
| 19:29 |
Calinou |
:^) |
| 19:29 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
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shivajiva |
Hi :) |
| 19:30 |
Fixer |
Calinou: thats what i'm saying |
| 19:30 |
tenplus1 |
hi shiva |
| 19:30 |
Calinou |
C# also has no open source complete documentation, and patent issues may be more rampant than with Java |
| 19:30 |
Calinou |
hi shivajiva |
| 19:31 |
Fixer |
Calinou: isn't MS released it as open source now? |
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* benrob0329 |
raises potential future hand |
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Calinou |
Mono was already open sourced before Xamarin was bought by Microsoft, but under LGPL |
| 19:31 |
Calinou |
now it's MIT-licensed |
| 19:32 |
Fixer |
Calinou: java documentation is not open source? wth... |
| 19:32 |
Calinou |
yeah |
| 19:32 |
Calinou |
it's not on http://devdocs.io/ because of that |
| 19:33 |
Fixer |
Calinou: special licence or completely closed? |
| 19:34 |
Calinou |
bad enough to not be classifiable as "free documentation" |
| 19:34 |
Calinou |
I don't know the details |
| 19:34 |
Calinou |
community can't contribute too |
| 19:34 |
Fixer |
lol, that sucks |
| 19:35 |
Fixer |
how you gonna program in it if there is no docs? |
| 19:37 |
Calinou |
there are docs, but you have to access it their way |
| 19:37 |
Calinou |
if there are issues, you can't fix them yourself |
| 19:38 |
Calinou |
I've found the Oracle sites to not be very convenient, too |
| 19:44 |
benrob0329 |
std::cout << "Hello World!" << std::endl; |
| 19:44 |
Fixer |
begin |
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Jordach |
>forgets int main() |
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benrob0329 |
Its a statement, not a program |
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* Fixer |
tries to surface his turbo pascal memory |
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rubenwardy |
char x = 0; size_t i = 0; while(1) { &x[i++] = 42; } |
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benrob0329 |
Jordach, you forgot #include anyways |
| 19:46 |
Jordach |
lol |
| 19:46 |
Fixer |
"Add mod store again" |
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benrob0329 |
begin |
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benrob0329 |
writeln("Hello world") |
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benrob0329 |
end |
| 19:48 |
benrob0329 |
I think |
| 19:48 |
benrob0329 |
Or does Oascal need ; |
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benrob0329 |
*Pascal |
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* benrob0329 |
makes everyone mad by saying that he still plans on using GTK (gtkmm) with C++ |
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tenplus1 |
hi tommy |
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tenplus1 |
lol ben |
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Shara |
hello TommyTreasure |
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shivajiva |
Hi TommyTreasure, wb :) |
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red-NaN |
octacian_, are you using a bouncer or something? |
| 20:08 |
tenplus1 |
hi octacian |
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octacian |
red-NaN: Nope, just bad internet |
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TommyTreasure |
hello tenplus1, Shara, shivajiva |
| 20:29 |
benrob0329 |
(Offtopic) https://youtu.be/06xFhUHFnx8 |
| 20:33 |
tenplus1 |
nite all |
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sofar |
benrob0329: much more interesting: http://www.livescience.com/58723-superfluid-creates-negative-mass.html |
| 20:37 |
Jordach |
one step closer to that albucurrie drive |
| 20:38 |
rubenwardy |
Minetest Mods for Android v1.7.0 released, with fast scroller support: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rubenwardy.minetestmodmanager |
| 20:38 |
rubenwardy |
(ie: you can drag the scroller, and letters come up) |
| 20:38 |
Jordach |
aye |
| 20:39 |
rubenwardy |
wish I could change that package name |
| 20:39 |
rubenwardy |
https://github.com/rubenwardy/mtmods4android/releases/tag/v1.7.0 |
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* Jordach |
goes to load the final logback entry in Quassel |
| 20:42 |
nore |
sofar: http://gizmodo.com/no-scientists-didnt-just-create-negative-mass-or-defy-1794525465 |
| 20:42 |
Jordach |
huh, it is processing despite being locked up |
| 20:43 |
sofar |
oh yeah I knew that article wasn't entirely accurate |
| 20:45 |
nore |
well, it's interesting... but when I saw it I thought "oh, yet another scientific discovery exaggerated by the media" :D |
| 21:03 |
ThomasMonroe |
hey nore, have you ever looked up the electric universe theory? |
| 21:04 |
nore |
ThomasMonroe: what do you mean? |
| 21:04 |
ThomasMonroe |
have you looked into it at all? |
| 21:09 |
nore |
I don't know what it is, so that's what I was asking :) |
| 21:10 |
nore |
(no, I don't ever looked it up) |
| 21:10 |
atorian37 |
does the command /clearobjects remove all animals owned by players? |
| 21:11 |
ThomasMonroe |
ok nore |
| 21:11 |
nore |
so what is it? :p |
| 21:13 |
ThomasMonroe |
its a theory that every event that we give credit to gravity is actually a result of electromagnetism |
| 21:17 |
atorian37 |
it's because a player wrote to me, that all his animals desappeared at once. |
| 21:19 |
benrob0329 |
Could be a general clearobjects, or despawning |
| 21:19 |
benrob0329 |
Minetest and consitent entities do not get along |
| 21:19 |
nore |
ThomasMonroe: didn't know about that, might read a bit |
| 21:19 |
benrob0329 |
(Are there any plans to fix that btw?) |
| 21:20 |
ThomasMonroe |
its really interesting to think about, nore :) |
| 21:20 |
benrob0329 |
I have theorized that myself, but I'm no quantum physicist: -) |
| 21:22 |
atorian37 |
ok...so it's a feature not a bug? ;) I used /clearobjects but meant to clean the landscape from dropped items...not from animals.. :) |
| 21:22 |
nore |
ThomasMonroe: can't find anything serious on it |
| 21:23 |
ThomasMonroe |
the most ive found is on youtube, but ik how much it can be trusted ;) |
| 21:24 |
benrob0329 |
atorian37: yes, clearobjects removes all entities. That should probably be split into two commands |
| 21:24 |
Sokomine |
hmm. do we have a mechanism for renaming files in order to create a backup (of a schematic)? |
| 21:25 |
atorian37 |
ah ok, I better do not use this anymore to be sure not do clean the animals... |
| 21:26 |
Sokomine |
yes, that negative mass did sound very intresting but also seemed to be depicted rather imprecise...maybe there are better articles about it somewhere than the one i read in a newspaper |
| 21:26 |
Sokomine |
atorian37: mobs are entities and thus get hit by clearallobjects as far as i know |
| 21:27 |
atorian37 |
ok, got it, thank you... so it was me :( |
| 21:27 |
benrob0329 |
As I said, should be a splic command |
| 21:27 |
benrob0329 |
*split |
| 21:28 |
benrob0329 |
Would that be a minetest or an mtg issue? |
| 21:28 |
benrob0329 |
I pretty sure its a builtin command, but ive never looked |
| 21:30 |
atorian37 |
it's a server command that is (as far as I undestand) is built in the base game. |
| 21:33 |
benrob0329 |
http://news.softpedia.com/news/atom-1-17-open-source-hackable-text-editor-to-get-a-50-boost-in-startup-time-514995.shtml |
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ThomasMonroe |
hi sofar |
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sofar |
had a major internet outage |
| 22:03 |
Sokomine |
hmm. so the only way to do a backup of a schematic would be to spawn it somewhere and then creating it under the backup name. hmmm |
| 22:05 |
Sokomine |
or, hm. i can write files to the worldfolder anyway...thus a copy might be possible |
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* Sokomine |
mumbles to hershelf |
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benrob0329 |
Hi Nathan21 |
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* benrob0329 |
goes back to editing a video |
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Nathans21 |
Hi ben |
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benrob0329 |
o/ paramat |
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* VanessaE |
peeks in |
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* paramat |
pokes out O_o |
| 23:45 |
VanessaE |
you poke THERE again and you'll draw back a bloody stump |
| 23:45 |
VanessaE |
;) |
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Fixer |
good night |
| 23:47 |
* Sokomine |
replaces that strange basic with some nicer lua |
| 23:47 |
VanessaE |
HEY |
| 23:47 |
VanessaE |
don't you rag on BASIC |
| 23:47 |
VanessaE |
I cut my teeth on that farcockta language. |
| 23:47 |
VanessaE |
:) |
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Sokomine |
:-) |
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Sokomine |
(as long as i don't have to learn it *veg*) :-) |
