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| 00:11 |
paramat |
not sure, few artists are able to earn money from it |
| 00:12 |
paramat |
and the best art tends to be more uncommercial |
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benrob0329 |
Crap, my desktop doesnt see any boot devices.. |
| 02:16 |
benrob0329 |
Huh, whilst doing regular maintenance on my computer, I found one of my fans disconnected |
| 03:40 |
benrob0329 |
hmm, I'm really not sure why my bios doesn't see my ssd as a boot drive |
| 03:40 |
benrob0329 |
Its there, and mountable |
| 03:41 |
benrob0329 |
But it doesn't boot from it |
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| 07:33 |
tenplus1 |
hi folks |
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| 07:40 |
sofar |
https://github.com/sofar/mtmediasrv |
| 07:40 |
tenplus1 |
hi nrz |
| 07:43 |
Zeno` |
interesting. What's it do? |
| 07:43 |
Zeno` |
hi tenplus1, sofar |
| 07:43 |
sofar |
properly implement the minetest media server protocol |
| 07:44 |
sofar |
as fastcgi daemon |
| 07:44 |
sofar |
instead of doing it the dumb way, or broken |
| 07:44 |
sofar |
since the client POST's the data, you can't use a webserver only |
| 07:44 |
tenplus1 |
hi zeno |
| 07:44 |
sofar |
you have to do actual processing on the server |
| 07:45 |
Zeno` |
perhaps the sentence "it will talk to minetest clients that request media automatically" but rephrased should be put near the top of the readme |
| 07:45 |
Zeno` |
Just so it's clear without reading it all (who reads it all? :D) |
| 07:45 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 07:45 |
Zeno` |
I will test later. Looks good |
| 07:48 |
sofar |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=17411 |
| 07:48 |
sofar |
sure, suggestions welcome |
| 07:51 |
sofar |
Zeno`: read the top part of the forum post again |
| 07:52 |
Zeno` |
yeah, that's better. I like summaries at the top :) |
| 07:52 |
tenplus1 |
+1 |
| 07:52 |
sofar |
btw |
| 07:52 |
sofar |
I actually want to grow this thing to a "community" media server |
| 07:52 |
sofar |
one where we can all use a central one |
| 07:53 |
sofar |
and then get a CDN to serve it for us |
| 07:53 |
tenplus1 |
but, what happens if the media server goes down ? |
| 07:53 |
sofar |
that's what a CDN is for |
| 07:54 |
sofar |
and even if the CDN is down, the clients can always get the assets directly from the mt server they are connecting to |
| 07:54 |
sofar |
so, that's like 2 safety nets |
| 07:55 |
tenplus1 |
ah kewl |
| 07:55 |
sofar |
the whole idea is faster connection times, less play lag when someone connects |
| 07:55 |
sofar |
the server still needs to send nodedefs |
| 07:55 |
sofar |
but without mb's of images and sounds, it'll help a ton |
| 07:57 |
sofar |
bed |
| 07:57 |
* sofar |
is gone |
| 08:03 |
nrzkt |
hi tenplus1hi Zeno` |
| 08:03 |
tenplus1 |
o/ |
| 08:03 |
Zeno` |
\o |
| 08:03 |
nrzkt |
sofar: you think about a game but we are an engine :p |
| 08:03 |
benrob0329 |
tenplus1: Vidme is not censoring politically incorect videos |
| 08:04 |
benrob0329 |
In fact, they were probably moving his videos to the politics catagory (thus making them ineligible for the trending page) |
| 08:05 |
nrzkt |
sofar: sounds interesting, i can host a node if needed in France, i have 1Gb connection in a datacenter |
| 08:05 |
benrob0329 |
And consequently, making them disapeer from the catagory he went to look for |
| 08:05 |
nrzkt |
i also have a varnish, acme client etc |
| 08:06 |
tenplus1 |
hope that is what's happening ben :P |
| 08:06 |
benrob0329 |
Thays the official word frm Vidme |
| 08:06 |
benrob0329 |
Most things are done by hand, because algorithms aren't implimented yet |
| 08:14 |
tenplus1 |
having a flag setup where viewers report weird and bad videos would be a good way |
| 08:17 |
benrob0329 |
I believe they already have a flag video option |
| 08:18 |
tenplus1 |
rather than an algorithm checkning and returning many false positives like yotube, leave it in the hands of the viewers |
| 08:18 |
benrob0329 |
BTW, if a guy named Jiff_ ever joins a channel... |
| 08:18 |
benrob0329 |
Ban him |
| 08:18 |
tenplus1 |
what he do ? |
| 08:19 |
benrob0329 |
don't hesitate, he is a troll, he doesn't respect licenses or law, and is generally just going ti piss everybody off |
| 08:19 |
tenplus1 |
ahh |
| 08:20 |
benrob0329 |
Basically: he doesn't give a shit about anything but his personal "freedoms", but doesn't bother to respect the laws which give them to him |
| 08:20 |
tenplus1 |
anarchist |
| 08:20 |
benrob0329 |
basically |
| 08:20 |
benrob0329 |
But a troll anarchist |
| 08:22 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 08:22 |
benrob0329 |
before I actually go to bed, eould anybody be interested in having a fork of MTG for controversial/exparamental changes (including to gameplay) could be fleshed out? |
| 08:22 |
benrob0329 |
Pared with a server |
| 08:23 |
tenplus1 |
if you plop it on github for all to see then comments, recommendations and pulls will be added |
| 08:23 |
benrob0329 |
I might set that thay up when I get a few minutes then |
| 08:24 |
benrob0329 |
A $5 a month linode (its running vanilla, after all) and a githib repo should be plenty |
| 08:25 |
benrob0329 |
Ill grant write acess to mtg devs (and proabably major modders) |
| 08:25 |
tenplus1 |
*boop* |
| 08:26 |
benrob0329 |
Think of it like, minetest-next, but with the end goal of getting merged back |
| 08:27 |
tenplus1 |
and again I say... we NEED a [game] tab on the startup menu that is able to scroll through and download different games for use |
| 08:28 |
benrob0329 |
Yes, but having a fun default game is good aswell |
| 08:28 |
benrob0329 |
Should the githib repo be in its own group thing? |
| 08:28 |
benrob0329 |
*github |
| 08:28 |
tenplus1 |
of course, :) but that will take time to accomplish... in the meantime having the ability to play different games from the main menu is a handy thing to have, especially for adnroid users |
| 08:29 |
tenplus1 |
upload as a normal git mod which contains a folder with the game folder/mods inside |
| 08:30 |
tenplus1 |
makes it easier to download and plop into games to test and work on |
| 08:31 |
benrob0329 |
I'm planning on a mtg fork |
| 08:31 |
benrob0329 |
But individual mods would work as well |
| 08:32 |
benrob0329 |
What should the group be called? |
| 08:32 |
tenplus1 |
that's fine... so for example a folder called benrob_game with menu, mods and .conf settings inside that |
| 08:32 |
benrob0329 |
Do subgames need to be named outside of the folder? |
| 08:32 |
tenplus1 |
https://github.com/Cat5TV/tps_skyblock |
| 08:33 |
tenplus1 |
example from Cat5tv's skyblock server |
| 08:33 |
benrob0329 |
Because renaming the forked mtg would make editing easier |
| 08:33 |
tenplus1 |
copy the mintest_game folder itself, rename it and the game.conf title and upload... and from there change/upload/etc |
| 08:33 |
tenplus1 |
that gives you a custom game for all to work with |
| 08:34 |
benrob0329 |
meh, I want this to be as close to official as possible, so that changes have to possibility to be easily merged |
| 08:34 |
benrob0329 |
And pulled |
| 08:34 |
benrob0329 |
*the possibility |
| 08:34 |
tenplus1 |
easily done :P |
| 08:35 |
benrob0329 |
But seriosly, what should the group be called? |
| 08:36 |
benrob0329 |
Minetest-Game-Exparamental? |
| 08:36 |
benrob0329 |
MTG-Test? |
| 08:36 |
tenplus1 |
whatever you wanna call the new [game]... "Minetest Gamma" |
| 08:36 |
shivajiva |
Hi folks :) |
| 08:36 |
tenplus1 |
hi shiva |
| 08:36 |
benrob0329 |
its not a seperate game, its moddified mtg |
| 08:37 |
benrob0329 |
And only meant to be that, a testing ground |
| 08:37 |
red-005 |
Minetest Omega |
| 08:37 |
benrob0329 |
I like it, actually |
| 08:37 |
tenplus1 |
you only need a name that separates it from "minetest-game" that players can select from the list when making a new world... |
| 08:37 |
tenplus1 |
plus, Minetest Gamma = MTG :) |
| 08:37 |
benrob0329 |
ahhh |
| 08:38 |
benrob0329 |
I.see what you did there :-) |
| 08:38 |
red-005 |
or maybe epsilon |
| 08:38 |
tenplus1 |
and from there you can tweak what ya like :P |
| 08:39 |
Shara |
Hi all |
| 08:39 |
tenplus1 |
hey Shara |
| 08:39 |
Shara |
benrob0329: More games = good |
| 08:39 |
Shara |
But it depends what you mean by controversial changes. |
| 08:40 |
shivajiva |
benrob: sorry could you clear up if exparamental is a pun or just bad spelling |
| 08:40 |
benrob0329 |
Shara: its just a testing ground for mtg |
| 08:40 |
benrob0329 |
New changes to be tested in multiplayer etc |
| 08:40 |
benrob0329 |
I'm going to set up a server soon |
| 08:40 |
Shara |
Well, I can't tell you if I'd be interested without knowing what kind of controversial :P |
| 08:41 |
benrob0329 |
But if the need be, a full subgame coukd come out of it |
| 08:41 |
benrob0329 |
Like, the prs thay sit for years |
| 08:41 |
benrob0329 |
Because no one is for, or against it |
| 08:41 |
tenplus1 |
yeah, they just accumulate |
| 08:41 |
Shara |
That's indifference, not controversial though |
| 08:41 |
benrob0329 |
Or everyone is for, or against it |
| 08:41 |
tenplus1 |
I still have two for falling blocks that hurt player and creative privelage |
| 08:42 |
Shara |
Just not really sure what the point of having a server for semi-random PRs just because they've been ignored would be |
| 08:44 |
benrob0329 |
Shara: but also for new changes to be tested |
| 08:44 |
Shara |
Most people who want to test want to test in an environment they have control of though |
| 08:44 |
tenplus1 |
and if they work on server in a fully playable game then devs take notice and may add to default |
| 08:45 |
benrob0329 |
For eg I want to merge stu's railnet, but it needs testing |
| 08:45 |
benrob0329 |
https://github.com/Minetest-Omega/minetest_game |
| 08:45 |
Shara |
SO I guess I just want more info about what you plan to test :P |
| 08:45 |
benrob0329 |
also #minetest-omega |
| 08:45 |
benrob0329 |
Just random things to improve mtg |
| 08:45 |
benrob0329 |
A roadplan can be created |
| 08:46 |
benrob0329 |
But I don't have one yet |
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| 08:46 |
tenplus1 |
hi cal |
| 08:46 |
Shara |
Gotta go anyhow, but will keep an eye for it |
| 08:46 |
Shara |
See you all |
| 08:46 |
benrob0329 |
Bye! |
| 08:47 |
benrob0329 |
I gtg to bed, feel free to make exparamental changes n such |
| 08:47 |
tenplus1 |
cya rob |
| 08:47 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 08:47 |
Calinou |
had an issue with my VPS, it was stuck at 100% used RAM and one of the CPUs at 100% since 3:30AM… |
| 08:47 |
Calinou |
had to reboot it |
| 08:48 |
Calinou |
also hi benrob0329 |
| 08:48 |
benrob0329 |
tenplus1: I invited you to the group, feel free to invite anyone who's trustworthy and interested |
| 08:48 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 08:54 |
benrob0329 |
Ok now I feel like it should be minetest-gamma |
| 08:54 |
tenplus1 |
lololol |
| 08:54 |
benrob0329 |
Hold.on |
| 08:54 |
* tenplus1 |
rewatched "The Epicness of Ethereal" video... |
| 08:55 |
tenplus1 |
mesa biomes have dirt on top now and I really gotta add bushes |
| 08:56 |
benrob0329 |
https://github.com/minetest-gamma |
| 08:56 |
benrob0329 |
Boom, mt-g |
| 08:56 |
tenplus1 |
ehehe |
| 08:56 |
tenplus1 |
game.conf file, change name inside to "Minetest Gamma" so you can select whenc reating world |
| 08:59 |
benrob0329 |
Feel free to change it, its almost 5 am here |
| 08:59 |
tenplus1 |
sleepy time :P |
| 08:59 |
benrob0329 |
#minetest-gamma |
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| 09:27 |
tenplus1 |
hi gary |
| 09:27 |
tenplus1 |
Ethereal NG has been updated, bushes now added to mapgen |
| 09:28 |
shivajiva |
heh better voice him if you want a reply :) |
| 09:29 |
shivajiva |
Hi gary |
| 09:29 |
shivajiva |
automated rejoin I guess |
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tenplus1 |
laters all |
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| 10:30 |
Fixer |
nrzkt: nerzhul deb does not have minetest_game included, what i get when running minetestserver https://i.imgur.com/hA5wavk.png |
| 10:41 |
nrzkt |
oh yeah i didn't packages it yet but it launch it's the minimum :p |
| 10:41 |
nrzkt |
packaged* |
| 10:41 |
nrzkt |
but yes i should clone minetest game in artifact to package it |
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benrob0329 |
Hello all |
| 14:10 |
RobbieF |
hi benrob0329 |
| 14:10 |
benrob0329 |
Hey RobbieF |
| 14:11 |
benrob0329 |
what's up? |
| 14:12 |
RobbieF |
Today is Episode 500 of Category5 Technology TV :D |
| 14:14 |
benrob0329 |
Cool cool |
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kaeza |
greetings |
| 14:24 |
benrob0329 |
Hi kaeza |
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tenplus1 |
hi folks |
| 14:26 |
Amaz |
Hello ten and everyone else :) |
| 14:26 |
tenplus1 |
hi amaz |
| 14:33 |
benrob0329 |
Hi tenplus1 |
| 14:33 |
tenplus1 |
hi benrob |
| 14:34 |
benrob0329 |
Hi Amaz |
| 14:47 |
benrob0329 |
https://github.com/shaunlebron/blinky |
| 14:47 |
benrob0329 |
that for MT would be awesome |
| 15:13 |
Fixer |
https://i.imgur.com/Wa7VbnT.png v7 |
| 15:14 |
tenplus1 |
nice |
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benrob0329 |
Noice |
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Jordach |
n o i c e |
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sofar |
should be entirely possible in MT |
| 15:39 |
benrob0329 |
sofar, Jordach #minetest-gamma |
| 15:40 |
tenplus1 |
still gotta rename the folder it's inside benrob... |
| 15:40 |
benrob0329 |
(If you didn't read the logs, I'm setting up an experimental fork of mtg for use on a server) |
| 15:41 |
sofar |
fork? I'm sorry, no time for forks for me |
| 15:41 |
benrob0329 |
tenplus1: I know, I've gotta do that once I get back on my computer |
| 15:41 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 15:41 |
benrob0329 |
sofar: Its not thay kind of fork |
| 15:42 |
sofar |
oh a fork of minetest_game |
| 15:42 |
benrob0329 |
Its meant for testing things and showing that they work well |
| 15:42 |
benrob0329 |
I'm going to set up a server as soon as I can |
| 15:44 |
benrob0329 |
Why Gamma? |
| 15:44 |
benrob0329 |
MT-G |
| 15:45 |
benrob0329 |
Also, this isn't for alpha or beta testing, but rather gamma testing :P |
| 15:50 |
benrob0329 |
https://github.com/minetest-gamma |
| 15:50 |
sofar |
remember to also run a gamma minetest then at all times |
| 15:52 |
benrob0329 |
sofar: is there any other way to live, than on the bleeding edge? |
| 15:52 |
sofar |
sure there is |
| 15:52 |
sofar |
comfortably and relaxed |
| 15:52 |
sofar |
not anxious that things will break any moment ;) |
| 15:53 |
benrob0329 |
Heh, but thats not nearly as interesting |
| 15:53 |
nore |
hmmmm so what is the objective of minetest-gamma? |
| 15:53 |
tenplus1 |
hi nore |
| 15:53 |
nore |
hi all :) |
| 15:54 |
benrob0329 |
nore: To improve mtg |
| 15:54 |
benrob0329 |
Through the testing of mt-g |
| 15:54 |
benrob0329 |
Basically pulls can get merges for gameplay tests |
| 15:54 |
benrob0329 |
*merged |
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nore |
oh, interesting :) |
| 15:55 |
nore |
now we only do to develop minetest game for real :) |
| 15:55 |
Fixer |
kekekekeke |
| 15:55 |
Fixer |
sorry |
| 15:55 |
nrzkt |
if idea is to improve minetest_game, just improve minetest_game |
| 15:55 |
nrzkt |
if idea is to restart from scratch (better), just do it |
| 15:55 |
tenplus1 |
hi nrz |
| 15:55 |
nrzkt |
n ite |
| 15:56 |
nrzkt |
hi tenplus1 |
| 15:56 |
benrob0329 |
I have a few in mind that id like to get merged, but I think they may have fallen out of mergability :-( |
| 15:56 |
tenplus1 |
which ones ? |
| 15:56 |
benrob0329 |
Sofars chests for eg |
| 15:56 |
tenplus1 |
link me :P |
| 15:57 |
benrob0329 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/793 |
| 15:58 |
benrob0329 |
Also testing railnet to see if its suitable for use in mtg |
| 15:58 |
benrob0329 |
(I'm probably going to have a few mods to help with testing) |
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benrob0329 |
sofar: mtg devs and some major modders will have write access to the repo |
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tenplus1 |
hi DI3HARD139 |
| 16:21 |
DI3HARD139 |
hello tenplus1 |
| 16:21 |
Calinou |
https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/article408/my-house-has-been-robbed |
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Fixer |
Calinou: wth is that? |
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tenplus1 |
hi Krock |
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Krock |
hi 11 |
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Krock |
anything new? |
| 16:40 |
tenplus1 |
updated Ethereal NG to add new bushes |
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tenplus1 |
you? |
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Krock |
hmm.. afaik nothing new at all here |
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Wayward_One |
Hi all :) |
| 16:42 |
tenplus1 |
hi wayward |
| 16:43 |
Krock |
hi Wayward_1 |
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Wayward_One |
:P |
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benrob0329 |
Hi Krock, Wayward_One |
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Wayward_One |
hi benrob0329 |
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Krock |
hello benrob14 |
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benrob0329 |
roben1430 |
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benrob0329 |
:P |
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benrob0329 |
Its my evil twin |
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tenplus1 |
hi paramat |
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Krock |
hello paramat |
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Krock |
tenplus1, how do you do that? |
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tenplus1 |
do what ? |
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Krock |
hi benrob03291 |
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tenplus1 |
wb benrob0329 |
| 16:53 |
Krock |
HA |
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Krock |
(not quite sure if I was faster this time) |
| 16:53 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 16:53 |
Krock |
you're tying near lightspeed |
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Krock |
*typing |
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tenplus1 |
watching NathanS' latest vid on nssm 3.0... the pathfinding has an issue with snow ... pah! |
| 16:56 |
Shara |
Hi all |
| 16:56 |
Krock |
hi Shara |
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Wayward_One |
hi Shara |
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tenplus1 |
wb shara |
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Krock |
tenplus1, this time I was definitely faster :P |
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garywhite |
Hi Shara |
| 16:56 |
Krock |
hi garywhite |
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tenplus1 |
lol |
| 16:56 |
garywhite |
Hi Krock |
| 16:56 |
garywhite |
hi ten |
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tenplus1 |
heyas :P |
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tenplus1 |
wow, robbie was quick in adding that pull |
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Wayward_One |
https://www.reddit.com/r/RemixOS/comments/65c8jh/my_probelais_tha_rimix_os_some_app_fon_note_run/ |
| 17:05 |
tenplus1 |
why was snow changed to not walkable, and then back again ? |
| 17:08 |
Wayward_One |
tenplus1, https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1271 |
| 17:08 |
tenplus1 |
thanks wayward |
| 17:10 |
Wayward_One |
np |
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tenplus1 |
thin snow really messes up line of sight attacks |
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tenplus1 |
wb nrz |
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Fixer |
me watching minetest-dev https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9wdtexXkAARcWN.jpg:large |
| 17:40 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
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nerzhul |
Fixer, https://gitlab.com/nerzhul/minetest/builds/14615170/artifacts/file/build/deb/minetest.deb should have minetest_game embedded |
| 17:42 |
nerzhul |
tenplus1, which version of lubuntu do you have ? |
| 17:42 |
nerzhul |
i should change the version scheme to invert adte |
| 17:42 |
tenplus1 |
17.04 |
| 17:42 |
nerzhul |
date |
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nerzhul |
tenplus1, you can test https://gitlab.com/nerzhul/minetest/builds/14615177/artifacts/file/build/deb/minetest.deb ? |
| 17:43 |
nerzhul |
it conflicts with regular minetest package warning :) |
| 17:43 |
nerzhul |
but you can reinstall it after deinstall staging properly |
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tenplus1 |
what changes does it have to normal mtg ? |
| 17:44 |
nerzhul |
oh it's just for test, it's master - 1 day + minetest_game master atm |
| 17:44 |
nerzhul |
if you can test the client :) |
| 17:47 |
tenplus1 |
works fine |
| 17:49 |
nerzhul |
you run client or server only ? |
| 17:50 |
tenplus1 |
ran as singleplayer and local network |
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celeron55 |
http://i.imgur.com/uLYBplv.png hmmm... |
| 17:52 |
tenplus1 |
ooh |
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celeron55 |
that's just about what you can achieve using a pickaxe around here |
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celeron55 |
lol |
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tenplus1 |
ehehehe yeah, |
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tenplus1 |
damn, mobs api's line_of_sight has issue with flat nodeboxes like snow/carpet... pah!!!! |
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nerzhul |
tenplus1, nice : |
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tenplus1 |
you putting it up for download on mt site ? |
| 17:59 |
nerzhul |
not atm it's experimental on my branch on gitlab.com, i need to add dependencies |
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nerzhul |
and after that push artifact build on github, sync manually gitlab.com (it's done every day automaticly) |
| 17:59 |
nerzhul |
look https://gitlab.com/nerzhul/minetest/pipelines/7732045 |
| 17:59 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
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nerzhul |
i added build for all those distro (thanks docker for permitting this easily) |
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nerzhul |
deb are okay except deps, and after i need to do rpm, maybe snap and other snap concurrent |
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nerzhul |
flatpunk |
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nerzhul |
restarting my irc client |
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tenplus1 |
snap vs flatpak |
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nerzhul |
back |
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Calinou |
Fixer: popular free culture artist |
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Calinou |
his house has been robbed, with fairly valuable stuff |
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tenplus1 |
shame... hope insurance covers it |
| 18:09 |
Calinou |
yes, he's saying he's dealing with insurance right now |
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Calinou |
getting proof is really hard though |
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tenplus1 |
<fingers crossed> |
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garywhite |
What country does he live in Calinou? In the US or somewhere in Europe? |
| 18:10 |
Krock |
France |
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Calinou |
I don't know, maybe France, he's French IIRC |
| 18:10 |
Krock |
no? |
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Krock |
vote the pencil btw :P |
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garywhite |
Oh. If he was from the States I would have suggested an indoor security camera, but idk if they sell those over there. I would think they would |
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Calinou |
Krock: yeah, we vote on Sunday |
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Calinou |
garywhite: indoor cameras are not always proof from a legal point of view |
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Calinou |
they sure do help |
| 18:12 |
Calinou |
but they're not guarantees you'll get insurance |
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garywhite |
Yeah, but they do help |
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tenplus1 |
hi rubenwardy |
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rubenwardy |
hi tenplus1 |
| 18:34 |
sofar |
FYI for those hosting a remote media server: |
| 18:34 |
sofar |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=17411&p=264611#p264611 |
| 18:34 |
sofar |
mtmediasrv is now a one-stop-shop to running a minetest remote media server |
| 18:35 |
sofar |
point it at your asset folders (mod directory, game dir) and start it, it does everything |
| 18:35 |
sofar |
I can make binary builds for people who would like it |
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Calinou |
you know Go? nice |
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nerzhul |
go is not very difficult to learn when you know C/C++ |
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Calinou |
yeah, I guess |
| 18:45 |
Calinou |
tenplus1: you when you make your knockback mod: http://i.imgur.com/TuISmiO.gifv |
| 18:46 |
tenplus1 |
muhahaha |
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nerzhul |
we are working on this with Dumbeldor |
| 18:47 |
nerzhul |
a real native knockback api with client support |
| 18:47 |
nerzhul |
it's better than use the SAO protocol |
| 18:48 |
tenplus1 |
https://github.com/tenplus1/playerplus <-- has player knockback added |
| 18:59 |
sofar |
https://github.com/sofar/mtmediasrv/releases/tag/v1 <- binary releases of mtmediasrv are available! |
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tenplus1 |
wb Megaf |
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Megaf |
Hello onety one |
| 19:03 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
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Dumbeldor |
Yeah nerzhul |
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tenplus1 |
hi Dumbeldor |
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Dumbeldor |
Hello |
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tenplus1 |
hi kaeza |
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kaeza |
hello tenplus1 |
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tenplus1 |
:P |
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* tenplus1 |
is exploring the royal shakespear theatre on Xanadu :PP nice build |
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tenplus1 |
nite |
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meows at benrob0329 |
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meows at benrob03291 |
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* benrob0329 |
roars at Jordach |
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benrob0329 |
Oh now you figure that out |
| 22:58 |
celeron55 |
meow! |
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benrob0329 |
Beep Beep |
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* celeron55 |
nudges an expensive vase off the desk |
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* sofar |
reconnects benrob0329 |
| 23:01 |
benrob0329 |
Why would you have an expensive vase on your desk? |
| 23:01 |
Fixer |
there is no vase... |
| 23:01 |
Fixer |
celeron55: do you have snow? |
| 23:01 |
Fixer |
_right now_ |
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sfan5 |
even germany has snow so i'd expect finland to have some too |
| 23:02 |
celeron55 |
i did hear ukraine has some, or... watched a video |
| 23:02 |
benrob0329 |
that's a bit late in the year, no? |
| 23:03 |
Fixer |
celeron55: it does a lot, but not in my area |
| 23:03 |
celeron55 |
there's no fresh snow but there is a bunch of icy dirty snow everywhere |
| 23:03 |
celeron55 |
like, everywhere except roads |
| 23:03 |
Fixer |
celeron55: here is funny thing about this... exactly 1 year ago... it was +30*C in my place, this is fucked up |
| 23:03 |
celeron55 |
not in southern finland though |
| 23:04 |
Fixer |
so 1 year ago you have +30*C, and this one is rain with +5*C or even snow - is not this... not fucked up? |
| 23:04 |
sofar |
45 degrees north and the mountain here is entirely white still |
| 23:05 |
Fixer |
i'm not living in some weird shit place... east europe |
| 23:05 |
benrob0329 |
Fixer: where's global warming when you need it? :P |
| 23:05 |
sofar |
LOL |
| 23:05 |
Fixer |
i can have +20*C or -20*C in february, fuuuuuuuuuck |
| 23:05 |
celeron55 |
well sounds like continental climate |
| 23:06 |
benrob0329 |
sounds like michigan weather |
| 23:06 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: global warming? it is already bad enough to have >30*C much of the working day, Megaf knows better |
| 23:06 |
Fixer |
celeron55: yes |
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celeron55 |
i live near this small sea, it pulls the temperature always towards about 0°C |
| 23:06 |
benrob0329 |
It can be 0*f one day, and a balmy 68*f the next |
| 23:06 |
Fixer |
celeron55: the problem is ... Ukraine has sea too, but fuck me anyway, can be -20*C one year, can +20*C year another |
| 23:06 |
VanessaE |
benrob0329: oh, you mean like North Carolina. :) |
| 23:07 |
benrob0329 |
Midwestern weather apparently |
| 23:07 |
Fixer |
i had like +15*C near fucking New Year |
| 23:07 |
Fixer |
i was waiting snow & shit - nope |
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* benrob0329 |
find a c to f cheat sheet |
| 23:08 |
celeron55 |
(or really, the weather in finland basically always comes from the atlantic ocean, first quickly flying over norway and sweden and then it's here; only on the rare occasions that the wind blows from somewhere else the weather can be weird |
| 23:09 |
celeron55 |
) |
| 23:09 |
Fixer |
when you have +30 in the middle of... april... thats shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit |
| 23:09 |
benrob0329 |
Heh, -20*c is only -4*f |
| 23:09 |
benrob0329 |
that's cute |
| 23:09 |
benrob0329 |
http://www.gothereguide.com/travel_tools/temperature_conversion_cheatsheet.php |
| 23:10 |
sofar |
answer me this |
| 23:10 |
Fixer |
old people remember there were much more snow before, like in mid 19XX |
| 23:10 |
sofar |
what's the absolute 0 in F? |
| 23:11 |
Fixer |
will usa ever move to Celsius |
| 23:11 |
Fixer |
this is ridiculous |
| 23:11 |
sofar |
just after calexit |
| 23:11 |
Fixer |
finally |
| 23:12 |
Jordach |
-459.4 |
| 23:12 |
Fixer |
kek |
| 23:12 |
benrob0329 |
the us will move to Celsius when the US moves to metrick |
| 23:12 |
Fixer |
i wonder if they still measure weitgh in stones (wtf) |
| 23:13 |
Fixer |
weight |
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Jordach |
Fixer, over here we use both |
| 23:13 |
Fixer |
f------k |
| 23:13 |
benrob0329 |
Stones? If the stones are 1 pound each |
| 23:13 |
benrob0329 |
And I don't mean €s |
| 23:13 |
Fixer |
my stone is bigger than your stone |
| 23:14 |
Fixer |
i've enlarged my sandstone... stone |
| 23:14 |
garywhite |
CalExit got dropped, the creators quickly packed up & moved to Russia |
| 23:14 |
Fixer |
garywhite: is not that guy... already lived in russia |
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sofar |
a stone is not a pound |
| 23:14 |
benrob0329 |
How do you know the size of my stone? |
| 23:14 |
sofar |
a stone is like 8kg |
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sofar |
a pound is like 0.5kg |
| 23:15 |
Fixer |
russia hosts a lot of separatist/ultra(right/left) stuff, without domestic ones ofc %) |
| 23:15 |
benrob0329 |
wait, a stone us actually a weight? |
| 23:15 |
benrob0329 |
Huh, did not know that |
| 23:15 |
Fixer |
yep, it is that fucked up |
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rubenwardy |
don't they use pounds in the US? |
| 23:16 |
Fixer |
same with left-side driving |
| 23:16 |
garywhite |
Yes, we use pounds |
| 23:16 |
benrob0329 |
Yes |
| 23:16 |
rubenwardy |
I mean, from what I've seen on the interwebs |
| 23:16 |
garywhite |
We use pounds & ounces |
| 23:16 |
Fixer |
ounces is the worst |
| 23:16 |
VanessaE |
pounds? ounces? bleh |
| 23:16 |
Fixer |
with metric system everything is so much simpler |
| 23:16 |
rubenwardy |
The UK mainly uses stones and pounds (ie: 10 st 2 pds) |
| 23:16 |
rubenwardy |
I use kgs though |
| 23:16 |
Fixer |
you have 1 liter/kilo... and whatever |
| 23:16 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, no, we're using KG for a while now |
| 23:16 |
benrob0329 |
16 oz in a pound, 2k pounds in a ton, etc |
| 23:17 |
VanessaE |
there's a reason that I stick to metric, despite being in the land of the hectare and the hogshead :P |
| 23:17 |
Fixer |
1 ton is 1000 kilograms |
| 23:17 |
celeron55 |
a good cruising speed is at least 1 nanoparsecs per fortnight |
| 23:17 |
nore |
uh, didn't know stones existed, pounds are bad enough already :/ |
| 23:17 |
celeron55 |
i mean, 10 |
| 23:17 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: hectare is 10 000 m^2 |
| 23:17 |
celeron55 |
wait, no, 1 |
| 23:17 |
Fixer |
iirc |
| 23:17 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: or it is another kind of hectare? |
| 23:17 |
Fixer |
kek |
| 23:17 |
benrob0329 |
My ocd welcomes metric |
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Jordach |
i think c55 just short circuited, next thing we know we'll hear is perttu is alive :P |
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VanessaE |
Fixer: no one ever speaks of them, and I was kidding anyway :) |
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sofar |
warning, offtopic limit approachign rapidly! |
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benrob0329 |
Crap, I just lost my train of thought |
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VanessaE |
celeron55: meh, that's too slow. :) |
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* sofar |
drives home |
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rubenwardy |
Jordach: I don't really hear many people use KG, most use stones and pounds |
| 23:19 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, KG user exclusively, can't use imperial |
| 23:19 |
Fixer |
sofar: don't chat while driving |
| 23:19 |
benrob0329 |
Oh yeah, that you have to have two sets of wrenches in the us |
| 23:19 |
benrob0329 |
One metric, one imperial |
| 23:20 |
Jordach |
*musically tuned autistic screeching* |
| 23:20 |
benrob0329 |
Because half the parts for stuff is imported nowadays |
| 23:20 |
benrob0329 |
So your car probably has both in it |
| 23:20 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: now this part gets worse, because i've seen those pipes with inches and stuff... scary |
| 23:20 |
Fixer |
that inch crap still crops up even here |
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rubenwardy |
well, same, Jordach |
| 23:21 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: our cars have km/h only |
| 23:21 |
benrob0329 |
Just...SWITCH TO GISH DARN METRIC ALREADY!! |
| 23:21 |
benrob0329 |
Sorry |
| 23:21 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: i believe usa is switching, kinda |
| 23:22 |
benrob0329 |
This is one of those things that ticks me off |
| 23:22 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: nasa even had weird conversion errors |
| 23:22 |
rubenwardy |
the only measurements I use imperial for is miles / mph as they're just too hard baked into the road system |
| 23:22 |
celeron55 |
inches and miles and stuff is too deep-rooted in all the speech and culture in US for regular people to switch |
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nore |
rubenwardy: in the UK? |
| 23:22 |
rubenwardy |
yeah |
| 23:22 |
celeron55 |
maybe in 5 generations or something, if they really try |
| 23:23 |
benrob0329 |
We could switch, kids already learn it in school |
| 23:23 |
nore |
celeron55: well, when the metric system was invented in France it was used pretty quickly |
| 23:23 |
Fixer |
other countries also used that crap, yet they switched like 100 years ago and everybody is fine |
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nore |
the time system with 10 days/week, 10 hours of 100 minutes of 100 seconds didn't stick though |
| 23:24 |
Zeno` |
well, that's because it's not circular |
| 23:24 |
benrob0329 |
Sure, some would bitch about it, but everyone knows its a better system |
| 23:24 |
Zeno` |
maybe a time system based on radians would work though |
| 23:25 |
benrob0329 |
Time is largely the same throughout the world, and has been hundreds if years |
| 23:25 |
nore |
Zeno`: no, it's easy to make it circular as well |
| 23:25 |
benrob0329 |
7 days in a week has been around for thousands |
| 23:25 |
nore |
benrob0329: yeah, I think that's one of the reasons why it didn't work |
| 23:26 |
Fixer |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_calendar |
| 23:26 |
benrob0329 |
had 8 |
| 23:26 |
benrob0329 |
Ik |
| 23:27 |
shivajiva |
nobody does time like the Hindus, it's scale is vast |
| 23:27 |
benrob0329 |
Lets just all be glad that 12 to 24 hour time is ab easy convertion |
| 23:28 |
celeron55 |
am/pm is probably the silliest thing ever |
| 23:29 |
benrob0329 |
Now, as for why the calender changes over in the dead of night...who knows |
| 23:29 |
benrob0329 |
Tbh it should change around sunrise |
| 23:30 |
celeron55 |
well at summer around here, sunrise is at about at the same time as sunset so it works |
| 23:30 |
celeron55 |
(lol) |
| 23:30 |
shivajiva |
http://veda.wikidot.com/vedic-time-system |
| 23:30 |
celeron55 |
i mean, sunrise happens at different times, how can you make something "about" it |
| 23:31 |
benrob0329 |
Around 6 am (or properly 0:00) |
| 23:32 |
benrob0329 |
So, 6 or 5 o clock would reliably be around sunrise |
| 23:32 |
celeron55 |
what if someone wakes up before that, like people do in many jobs |
| 23:32 |
celeron55 |
do they wake up in the previous day then? not really |
| 23:32 |
benrob0329 |
Then the calender rolls over after they wake up |
| 23:33 |
celeron55 |
but the current clock works well for them |
| 23:33 |
benrob0329 |
What if im awake past 12:00? |
| 23:33 |
celeron55 |
well it's stupid as you're wasting daylight that way |
| 23:33 |
benrob0329 |
Did I go to sleep in the next day? |
| 23:33 |
celeron55 |
as you'll sleep over dawn |
| 23:34 |
benrob0329 |
oyr days aren't tied to the sun |
| 23:34 |
benrob0329 |
*our |
| 23:34 |
celeron55 |
it's efficient to tie them to the sun |
| 23:34 |
benrob0329 |
yes, but not always possible |
| 23:36 |
benrob0329 |
DST needs to go though |
| 23:41 |
shivajiva |
if you take away imposed time you are left with the natural orbit and things revert back to the sun, the speed of light has changed since the beginning of the universe so our constants are relative ;) |
| 23:42 |
Fixer |
celeron55: i hate this am/pm bullshit, it is not used anywhere except one thing, actual speech, you can say 19:00 or 7:00 (depending on context) |
| 23:44 |
shivajiva |
a DS1307 clock chip uses it, so it was prevalent enough to be embedded |
| 23:44 |
Fixer |
if it is working day, you just say 8-12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7 without mentioning am/pm crap, in email it is ofc 8:00-17:00 thing |
| 23:44 |
VanessaE |
what bugs me about 24-hour time is just the way some people read it. "19:00" is never spoke as "nineteen o'clock" but "nineteen hundred hours" |
| 23:44 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: O_O |
| 23:45 |
Fixer |
this is top kek |
| 23:45 |
Fixer |
never heared this |
| 23:45 |
Fixer |
what the fuck |
| 23:45 |
shivajiva |
military time |
| 23:45 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: silly |
| 23:45 |
VanessaE |
yep. |
| 23:47 |
Fixer |
here everything is written in 24hr notations, on digital clocks, on everything |
| 23:47 |
VanessaE |
"seven pee em" just sounds better than "nineteen hundred hour" or "nineteen o'clock". |
| 23:47 |
VanessaE |
+s |
| 23:48 |
Fixer |
VanessaE: it is faster to say, thats why even when we use 24:00 system everywhere, in everyday speech i can just say I will be at seven... |
| 23:48 |
rubenwardy |
nineteen forty eight |
| 23:49 |
Fixer |
when i go somewhere at sunset i can say i will be at 10... unless you gonna be heavy drunk, then you will be at another 10 |
| 23:50 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 23:50 |
Fixer |
basically in speech you can drop am/pm part |
| 23:50 |
Fixer |
nobody is using am/pm part here even when saying in 12hr system |
| 23:51 |
Fixer |
you can understand it in context anyway |
| 23:52 |
Fixer |
sometimes ofc will be clarification 8 in morning or whatever |
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Fixer |
to be clear, we don't use this clocks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shepherd_Gate_Clock#/media/File:Greenwich_clock_1-manipulated.jpg |
| 23:57 |
Fixer |
we use 12 repeated twice, digital kinda works out of the box too |
