| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
Fixer |
lots of nerzuls |
| 00:00 |
nore |
yeah, I see at least 4 |
| 00:00 |
Shara |
29 lines. I actually thought I had less. |
| 00:00 |
Fixer |
i have no idea where I got 200 lines... of what? |
| 00:00 |
rubenwardy |
updated including everyone |
| 00:00 |
Fixer |
i had like 1 or 2 pr |
| 00:01 |
nore |
Fixer: don't forget it includes doc... |
| 00:01 |
Fixer |
6 lines in total |
| 00:01 |
Fixer |
my edits %) |
| 00:01 |
Fixer |
for engine/game |
| 00:01 |
red-001 |
oh nice it listed me as one person even through I changed my email |
| 00:01 |
nore |
red-001: yeah, it's the name not the email that matters |
| 00:01 |
Fixer |
"189 Binary file (standard input) matches" |
| 00:01 |
Fixer |
wat? |
| 00:02 |
red-001 |
github as having issues |
| 00:02 |
red-001 |
s/as/was |
| 00:02 |
rubenwardy |
Fixer: did a grep for you, there's a lot of "Translated using Weblate" |
| 00:02 |
Fixer |
ahh... that |
| 00:02 |
rubenwardy |
git ls-files | while read f; do git blame --line-porcelain $f | grep 'Fixer' -A 10; done |
| 00:03 |
Fixer |
yes, i did some weblate |
| 00:03 |
rubenwardy |
shows you the commit details for each line of git blame you're mentioned |
| 00:03 |
Fixer |
not much, basic interface stuff, i didn't translated 800 config options %) |
| 00:03 |
Fixer |
fuck that |
| 00:03 |
Fixer |
all stuff needed for game is translated |
| 00:03 |
Fixer |
advanced settings are not |
| 00:03 |
Fixer |
maybe some time later |
| 00:04 |
red-001 |
oh is the number of lines the number of lines added - number of lines removed? |
| 00:04 |
rubenwardy |
red-001, it's the number of lines that are credited to a commit you made, according to git blame |
| 00:04 |
rubenwardy |
ah, Loic Blot vs Loïc Blot |
| 00:04 |
Fixer |
did not translate* |
| 00:05 |
rubenwardy |
it's not added - removed, as someone may have changed your lines since you |
| 00:05 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: vs nerzul |
| 00:05 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy: and vs another nerzhul |
| 00:05 |
Fixer |
or smth |
| 00:05 |
Dumbeldor |
nerzhul <3 |
| 00:05 |
Dumbeldor |
:D |
| 00:05 |
rubenwardy |
ah so, Loic Blot vs Loïc Blot vs Ner'zhul vs nerzhul |
| 00:06 |
Fixer |
wonder why celeron is second |
| 00:06 |
Fixer |
he wrote shit ton of code after all |
| 00:07 |
Fixer |
no way he is second |
| 00:07 |
red-001 |
he is first on the github page |
| 00:07 |
nore |
Fixer: number of lines *remaining* |
| 00:07 |
red-001 |
oh |
| 00:07 |
nore |
and est31 did the weblate commits IIRC |
| 00:07 |
Fixer |
okay, anyway have fun and good night |
| 00:08 |
rubenwardy |
weblate commits are attributed to the author, no? |
| 00:08 |
Shara |
night Fixer |
| 00:08 |
nore |
night |
| 00:08 |
rubenwardy |
commiter is stored in a separate field |
| 00:08 |
nore |
rubenwardy: maybe |
| 00:08 |
rubenwardy |
author Fixer |
| 00:08 |
rubenwardy |
committer est31 |
| 00:08 |
rubenwardy |
for example |
| 00:08 |
rubenwardy |
night Fixer |
| 00:08 |
nore |
but anyway, he did the SRP thing as well which is a lot of code he was the only one to modify |
| 00:08 |
rubenwardy |
ah, true |
| 00:10 |
nore |
rubenwardy: did you count the po files? |
| 00:10 |
nore |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/ae02d1eb8f4222d5cd3f885352011e4e699e6a3f <-- commits like this... |
| 00:12 |
rubenwardy |
git ls-files lists *everything* in the repo |
| 00:12 |
sofar |
nore: all my commits are using my real name |
| 00:12 |
rubenwardy |
I can run it again with just .cpp, .lua, and .h if you like |
| 00:12 |
nore |
sofar: hmmm, I must have misread then |
| 00:13 |
nore |
I thought I had seen some credited to sofar, but I probably had read too fast |
| 00:17 |
rubenwardy |
Here's a list filtered by only contributions to .h, .cpp, .lua: https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/ff3a2ec25f0abdf1371c34ba84427164 |
| 00:20 |
Shara |
Hmm, interesting |
| 00:20 |
red-001 |
why? |
| 00:21 |
Shara |
I jump quite a bit higher on that list in my overall placement, but I would have thought I was more focused on documentation related things than normal |
| 00:21 |
Shara |
So it shows me I assumed wrong |
| 00:22 |
rubenwardy |
updated to combine all of nerzhul together |
| 00:24 |
red-001 |
https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/ff3a2ec25f0abdf1371c34ba84427164#file-author_line_source-txt-L116 |
| 00:24 |
red-001 |
is that some werid unicode or something? |
| 00:24 |
rubenwardy |
no idea |
| 00:25 |
Shara |
Looks like chinese name |
| 00:29 |
benrob0329 |
Calinou: Dirt 3 is being ported to Linux |
| 01:03 |
rubenwardy |
realised I made a mistake in my grep, here is an updated version: https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/ff3a2ec25f0abdf1371c34ba84427164 |
| 01:04 |
rubenwardy |
I didn't escape a dot, so some files that werent .h/.cpp/.lua were included |
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| 01:15 |
Shara |
Hi behalebabo. Hi ShadowNinja |
| 01:16 |
behalebabo |
hello |
| 01:18 |
red-001 |
He's worth a dozen of you. Hush and let him finish. |
| 01:18 |
red-001 |
.. |
| 01:19 |
red-001 |
why does copy and paste never work as expected |
| 01:20 |
ShadowNinja |
Hello Shara! |
| 01:21 |
sofar |
hello Guest37346 |
| 01:21 |
* sofar |
lags :) |
| 01:21 |
ShadowNinja |
Heh. |
| 01:22 |
ShadowNinja |
I've been away from MT long enough that I'm getting rather out of the loop. |
| 01:22 |
Shara |
You may well have missed a lot then |
| 01:22 |
sofar |
ShadowNinja: the loop isn't a good place to be in ;) |
| 01:23 |
ShadowNinja |
Mailman recently decided to fill up my server's disk with errors because some permissons weren't right, and a noticed that some things weren't working. |
| 01:23 |
Shara |
Hah, sofar is right about that. :) |
| 01:23 |
ShadowNinja |
So I fixed that, and figured I'd check IRC too. |
| 01:24 |
ShadowNinja |
sofar: Sorry but I don't get it. Movie/book reference? |
| 01:24 |
benrob0329 |
Hi ShadowNinja |
| 01:24 |
sofar |
naw, just a random comment |
| 01:24 |
sofar |
but, things have been "wild" |
| 01:26 |
benrob0329 |
A lot of controversy over the new sneak changes mainly |
| 01:26 |
Shara |
And the rest |
| 01:26 |
ShadowNinja |
sofar: Oh. |
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| 03:15 |
Shara |
Why am I still awake? |
| 03:17 |
benrob0329 |
Because sleep is for noobs |
| 03:19 |
Shara |
benrob0329: possibly |
| 03:19 |
Shara |
Was working on a mod... and something was wrong. And I did not want to sleep until I figured it out :) |
| 03:24 |
* VanessaE |
peeks in |
| 03:24 |
Shara |
Hi Vanessa |
| 03:25 |
benrob0329 |
(Offtopic, by Jeija) https://youtu.be/yCLb2eItDyE |
| 04:09 |
VanessaE |
so, what'd I miss? :) |
| 04:17 |
paramat |
inactivity :] |
| 04:17 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 05:23 |
* benrob0329 |
finally can use Glowing Bear to access Weechat, now that /me has added a security exception |
| 05:33 |
TommyTreasure |
benrob0329, were you the one that mentioned to me about removing the title bar from my vids? |
| 05:33 |
benrob0329 |
Not sure |
| 05:33 |
benrob0329 |
but its a good idea none the less |
| 05:34 |
TommyTreasure |
any hints on how? other than cropping the vid... |
| 05:34 |
TommyTreasure |
pm is fine |
| 05:39 |
benrob0329 |
Use a window based screen recording setup |
| 05:39 |
benrob0329 |
your SR software should allow you to select a window |
| 05:40 |
TommyTreasure |
since i'm using a simulated 3 cam shoot, i've been using OBS |
| 05:40 |
TommyTreasure |
each capture is set up as a separate scene |
| 05:41 |
TommyTreasure |
NathanS had mentioned a cinnamon plugin, but not running cinnamon here |
| 05:42 |
sofar |
my OBS doesn't record title bar |
| 05:42 |
sofar |
but, linux |
| 05:42 |
sofar |
under windows I don't know if it's different |
| 05:42 |
TommyTreasure |
same here |
| 05:42 |
sofar |
may also be capture method |
| 05:42 |
benrob0329 |
you can crop it in obs |
| 05:42 |
TommyTreasure |
mate |
| 05:42 |
benrob0329 |
or selext window instead of screen |
| 05:42 |
TommyTreasure |
i'll have to experiment more. thanks! |
| 05:43 |
benrob0329 |
or shift f11 to full screen (borderless window) minetest |
| 05:43 |
sofar |
I use "window capture - X composite" |
| 05:43 |
sofar |
no need to tune |
| 05:43 |
TommyTreasure |
hmmmmm, that's a thought too. btw, didn't know about shift F11 |
| 05:43 |
benrob0329 |
or, its supposed to do that |
| 05:44 |
benrob0329 |
it doesnt want to work for me :-/ |
| 05:44 |
sofar |
xfce4 here |
| 05:44 |
benrob0329 |
gnome 3 here |
| 05:44 |
TommyTreasure |
shift f11 doesn't do a thing on mine. |
| 05:44 |
benrob0329 |
Kde 5 on my desktop |
| 05:45 |
TommyTreasure |
my mate machine is the only box with enough cpu/gpu for vid work |
| 05:45 |
benrob0329 |
granted, kde 5 has its own "fake" fullscreen you can set |
| 05:46 |
benrob0329 |
(Offtopic) anyone know of a way to read wii disks on linux? |
| 05:46 |
sofar |
I usually capture 1080p but my monitor is 2560x1600, so I have plenty pixels on the side where I can monitor terminal or put OBS itself also visible to me |
| 05:46 |
sofar |
so I actually play "windowed" |
| 05:46 |
sofar |
1080p is like 2/3rd of my monitor, and like only half the surface |
| 05:47 |
TommyTreasure |
i've been using my 46" tv for my 1080 monitor. have 2 - 23" i still need to fix |
| 05:49 |
TommyTreasure |
1080 is the max on all 3 of them |
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| 06:49 |
Krock |
o/ |
| 06:50 |
benrob0329 |
\o |
| 06:51 |
sniper570 |
\o/ |
| 06:52 |
benrob0329 |
Before I go to bed |
| 06:52 |
benrob0329 |
1491720735 |
| 06:52 |
benrob0329 |
Is the current unix time |
| 06:52 |
benrob0329 |
Well, was |
| 06:53 |
benrob0329 |
Anyways, gnight |
| 07:21 |
celeron55 |
>Here's a list filtered by only contributions to .h, .cpp, .lua (https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/ff3a2ec25f0abdf1371c34ba84427164) |
| 07:21 |
celeron55 |
that looks very much like what i thought it would |
| 07:32 |
Krock |
nice stats. |
| 07:32 |
* Krock |
adds some libraries to bump his line count upwards |
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| 07:36 |
sofar |
I'm surprised I'm above 500loc even |
| 07:36 |
VanessaE |
I'm surprised I still show up in such a list :) |
| 07:41 |
* sofar |
& bed |
| 07:41 |
Krock |
false |
| 07:42 |
Krock |
Error: bed not found. |
| 07:45 |
VanessaE |
no sleep for you |
| 08:20 |
Krock |
!tell |
| 08:20 |
ShadowBot |
Krock: tell <nick1[,nick2[,...]]> <text> |
| 08:23 |
* cheapie |
looks at that contributor list |
| 08:23 |
cheapie |
"1 author cheapie" :P |
| 08:24 |
Krock |
!tell Fixer from what I've seen in my damage evading tests: it's only possible to envade if the player is instantly moved away from the X/Z axis to keep the player on the node |
| 08:24 |
ShadowBot |
Krock: O.K. |
| 08:25 |
Krock |
cheapie, one _line_! |
| 08:26 |
cheapie |
Krock: It's src/rollback.cpp:253, '"CREATE INDEX IF NOT EXISTS `actionIndex` ON `action`(`x`,`y`,`z`,`timestamp`,`actor`);\n",' |
| 08:26 |
Krock |
that one is from you? |
| 08:26 |
cheapie |
Yes. |
| 08:26 |
Krock |
xD |
| 08:26 |
Krock |
at least something :) |
| 08:26 |
cheapie |
This commit: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/380e1504eb2445fd43c03c87d23b8e41e85a7871 |
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tenplus1 |
hi folks |
| 09:20 |
Krock |
hi tenplus1 |
| 09:20 |
tenplus1 |
hi Krock, how's you ? |
| 09:21 |
Krock |
I'm fine, thanks :) |
| 09:21 |
Krock |
how about you? |
| 09:21 |
tenplus1 |
watching Samurai Jack to take my mind of mobs api :P |
| 09:22 |
tenplus1 |
will increase stepsize to 1.1 so that mobs can walk uphill and follow players better... but... they can escape over fences easier now |
| 09:44 |
Shara |
Morning all |
| 09:45 |
tenplus1 |
hi shara |
| 09:47 |
tenplus1 |
bbl |
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| 10:41 |
Calinou |
<benrob0329> Calinou: Dirt 3 is being ported to Linux |
| 10:41 |
Calinou |
benrob0329: nice |
| 10:42 |
Calinou |
there's Dirt Rally already, but I don't have it |
| 10:42 |
Calinou |
I have Dirt 3 and Dirt Showdown though |
| 10:55 |
celeron55 |
i tried dirt showdown and it was unplayable |
| 10:55 |
celeron55 |
there was like multiple seconds of input lag |
| 10:56 |
celeron55 |
the windows version probably works better in wine... |
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| 12:01 |
Jordach |
>trash rally game that isn't even proper WRC |
| 12:02 |
Jordach |
benrob0329, Calinou ^^ |
| 12:02 |
Jordach |
re: [01:29:47] <benrob0329> Calinou: Dirt 3 is being ported to Linux |
| 12:03 |
* benrob0329 |
pops in |
| 12:03 |
* benrob0329 |
pops out |
| 12:03 |
Jordach |
lmao |
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| 12:17 |
Calinou |
celeron55: yes, it was an EoN port |
| 12:17 |
Calinou |
which sucks, by definition |
| 12:18 |
Jordach |
Calinou, wrong person :^) |
| 12:18 |
Calinou |
no, celeron55 talked about Dirt Showdown Linux port |
| 12:18 |
Jordach |
oh |
| 12:18 |
sfan5 |
wut |
| 12:18 |
sfan5 |
dirt showdown works perfectly here |
| 12:19 |
Jordach |
it's almost playable on my APU A4 laptop with compositor |
| 12:19 |
Jordach |
running windows makes it entirely playable |
| 12:26 |
* benrob0329 |
throws window at Jordach |
| 12:26 |
Jordach |
:^) |
| 12:36 |
* Jordach |
sneezes |
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| 13:12 |
benrob0329 |
https://youtu.be/xt_N842KZdc |
| 13:12 |
* benrob0329 |
wants this kind of stuff in carts |
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| 13:17 |
Fixer |
hi |
| 13:17 |
Fixer |
Calinou: what is EoN? |
| 13:17 |
Calinou |
it's bullshit tech to port games to Linux lazily |
| 13:17 |
Fixer |
Calinou: and why it sucks? it is based on wine? |
| 13:18 |
Calinou |
translation layers, etc |
| 13:18 |
Calinou |
it's not Wine, exactly |
| 13:18 |
Fixer |
ah |
| 13:18 |
Calinou |
performs like crap, between other issues |
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| 13:18 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: [[citation needed]] |
| 13:18 |
Calinou |
well, it's widely critisized |
| 13:18 |
Calinou |
I've never tried it |
| 13:19 |
benrob0329 |
Is it that hard to use OGL in your game engine? |
| 13:19 |
sfan5 |
if you have developed solely for windows for years, yes |
| 13:20 |
Calinou |
some people think using Direct3D is still better in this day and age |
| 13:20 |
benrob0329 |
Then don't do a half assed port |
| 13:20 |
Calinou |
so, for some people, yes :/ |
| 13:20 |
benrob0329 |
Either go full Windows only, or go full cross platform |
| 13:21 |
Calinou |
I wish AAA games used cross-platform tech for real, except they're not |
| 13:21 |
benrob0329 |
don't go half assed, because then everyone's mad. |
| 13:21 |
Calinou |
even people who have the balls to use OpenGL (id Software) refuse to make Linux ports for some reason |
| 13:21 |
Calinou |
even though it'd be really cheap for them |
| 13:21 |
Calinou |
(they already use full OpenGL or Vulkan…) |
| 13:21 |
Calinou |
ok, it runs well in Wine, but then we have to depend on Steam Wine and such |
| 13:21 |
benrob0329 |
Or how game go from Mac -> Windows before linux? |
| 13:22 |
Calinou |
uh? |
| 13:22 |
Fixer |
Calinou: id software does not port to linux? too bad |
| 13:22 |
Calinou |
oh, I also really despise t hat |
| 13:22 |
Calinou |
Fixer: yes, since RAGE |
| 13:22 |
Fixer |
kek |
| 13:22 |
Calinou |
Doom 3 BFG had to do with an unofficial Linux port, too, I believe |
| 13:22 |
Calinou |
(but at least it was possible, thanks to source code) |
| 13:22 |
Calinou |
benrob0329: yes, for example, the old GTAs are available on macOS, but not Linux, go figure why |
| 13:23 |
benrob0329 |
Funnily enough, linux software often goes to Mac first |
| 13:23 |
Calinou |
even though macOS is a terrible gaming platform |
| 13:23 |
benrob0329 |
But its a *nix |
| 13:30 |
CWz |
It's based on freebsd or openbsd if recall |
| 13:30 |
sfan5 |
neither |
| 13:30 |
sfan5 |
based on Darwin |
| 13:31 |
benrob0329 |
Darwin has bits of FBSD in it |
| 13:32 |
sfan5 |
not really |
| 13:32 |
sfan5 |
darwin has code from bsd, freebsd has code from bsd too |
| 13:33 |
Fixer |
the whole unix tree thing is very complicated |
| 13:34 |
benrob0329 |
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_(operating_system) |
| 13:34 |
benrob0329 |
Huh, its mostly OS |
| 13:34 |
Fixer |
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/77/Unix_history-simple.svg/1200px-Unix_history-simple.svg.png |
| 13:35 |
benrob0329 |
Oh gosh |
| 13:36 |
Fixer |
Unix 9/10 was released recently |
| 13:36 |
Fixer |
research one |
| 13:36 |
Fixer |
it is insane to think it goes back to 1969 |
| 13:39 |
Fixer |
this is pretty good video about "Time Sharing" O/S https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Anxxe8SdX78 |
| 13:39 |
Fixer |
before unix |
| 13:48 |
* CWz |
hands Fixer a windows 95 disk |
| 13:48 |
Fixer |
CWz: no need |
| 13:49 |
Fixer |
i think i have w95 on disk anyway |
| 13:49 |
CWz |
3.11? |
| 13:49 |
Fixer |
i have it |
| 13:49 |
Fixer |
easy to find it |
| 13:52 |
Fixer |
CWz: https://i.imgur.com/Cp7Ml5r.png |
| 13:52 |
CWz |
cool |
| 13:52 |
CWz |
DOSbox? |
| 13:52 |
Fixer |
yes |
| 13:53 |
Fixer |
used it on 16 or 33mhz machine few times |
| 13:53 |
Fixer |
it was mainly dos gaming anyway |
| 13:53 |
Fixer |
but it had win3.11 too |
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| 13:55 |
Fixer |
lets play minetest |
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| 14:27 |
Calinou |
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/273827329766326284/300588629032697856/windows.jpg |
| 14:27 |
Calinou |
the truth behind Windows versions |
| 14:27 |
Fixer |
Calinou: i knew it |
| 14:27 |
Fixer |
Calinou: win2000 classic theme/ui is the best |
| 14:28 |
Calinou |
yeah, Windows XP themes were plain horrible |
| 14:28 |
Fixer |
then it all degenerated in aero/metro/flat puke |
| 14:28 |
Fixer |
poooop |
| 14:28 |
Fixer |
total poop |
| 14:28 |
red-001 |
I see OC is still trying to get the trademark |
| 14:28 |
Fixer |
also Office 2003 |
| 14:28 |
Fixer |
same blue poop |
| 14:28 |
Fixer |
red-001: minetest.org |
| 14:29 |
red-001 |
I just read that |
| 14:29 |
Fixer |
win7 is the last one with classic theme without hacks |
| 14:29 |
Calinou |
OldCoder is officially beyond crazy… |
| 14:29 |
red-001 |
Calinou ? |
| 14:29 |
Calinou |
what is trying to get a trademark on? |
| 14:30 |
red-001 |
well he is hyprocritcal |
| 14:30 |
* red-001 |
offically can't spell hypocritical correctly |
| 14:31 |
red-001 |
Calinou, the name minetest from what I can see |
| 14:33 |
Fixer |
Calinou: in 2001 i kinda expected consistent interfaces, and it was, mostly (apart from DOS era programs in DOS prompt), win3 era programs were rare, but now it is giant clusterfuck, everything is different, entire f-ing windows is different each release, each f-ing browser or antivirus or office or other BS wants to be cool and hip and use own interface just because fuck everybody |
| 14:36 |
Calinou |
red-001: aka. betraying the whole community |
| 14:36 |
red-001 |
yes |
| 14:37 |
red-001 |
I tried getting some sort of explaining for it yesterday but that just ended in being insulted and then banned |
| 14:38 |
red-001 |
s/explaining/explanation |
| 14:38 |
nore |
I only got insults for my questions as well |
| 14:38 |
nore |
maybe someone who he isn't completely crazy at should ask |
| 14:39 |
nore |
I can't even reason with him, he is just mad at me |
| 14:40 |
Krock |
I also talked to him a few days. Perhaps I'm the only who wasn't insulted o.0 |
| 14:40 |
Fixer |
i think sneak problem is the reason |
| 14:40 |
Krock |
or rather.. he talked with me |
| 14:42 |
Fixer |
cheapie: not sure about you, but some of nickname colours of chat6 are insanely hard to read on some backgrounds |
| 14:43 |
Krock |
black text on black background :3 |
| 14:43 |
Fixer |
more like green on green |
| 14:43 |
Fixer |
or violet on anything |
| 14:43 |
Fixer |
wine-like colour |
| 14:44 |
Fixer |
so it needs a solid black background behind to see it clearly |
| 14:45 |
Fixer |
endroit o.O |
| 14:53 |
Fixer |
current mood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwQ3GEncwh8 |
| 14:56 |
* benrob0329 |
returns |
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paramat |
"we control about 40 worlds" OC talks to the dead and has a galactic empire :] |
| 15:16 |
red-001 |
talks to the dead you say |
| 15:31 |
* Fixer |
.oO(gonna make a move) |
| 15:31 |
Fixer |
it is amazing how foliage and stuff can change the impression |
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| 15:45 |
Krock |
Fixer, you checked the damage evading multiple times in a row, few seconds apart, right? |
| 15:45 |
Fixer |
Krock: yep |
| 15:45 |
Krock |
ah, there we have it why you were able to evade |
| 15:46 |
Krock |
there's a 3.0s cooldown after being teleported |
| 15:46 |
Krock |
in that time no damage is taken from the player |
| 15:46 |
Fixer |
Krock: let me try again |
| 15:47 |
Krock |
I believe you won't be able to evade when waiting for some seconds first |
| 15:47 |
Fixer |
testing |
| 15:48 |
Fixer |
Krock: LOL, yes i can't evade if wait >3 sec |
| 15:48 |
Fixer |
Krock: good catch, trololo |
| 15:48 |
Krock |
there we go. |
| 15:48 |
paramat |
awesome |
| 15:49 |
Krock |
I've searched for over a hour now this problem |
| 15:49 |
Krock |
and it's a stupid cooldown timer |
| 15:49 |
Fixer |
yes |
| 15:49 |
Krock |
collision detection is a-ok |
| 15:49 |
paramat |
what about https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/329#issuecomment-289311843 though? |
| 15:49 |
Krock |
fixed in my pull, could be adapted to original code aswell |
| 15:50 |
paramat |
good |
| 15:51 |
paramat |
could you link me to the fix for that so i can apply it to current new move code? |
| 15:52 |
Krock |
https://github.com/SmallJoker/minetest/blob/cdf897b/src/localplayer.cpp#L277-L284 |
| 15:53 |
Krock |
^ code not complete there, needs additional collision_info != NULL check |
| 15:54 |
Fixer |
Krock: but why this 3 second is needed? |
| 15:55 |
Krock |
// Ignore damage for a few seconds, so that the player doesn't |
| 15:55 |
Krock |
// get damage from falling on ground |
| 15:55 |
Krock |
m_ignore_damage_timer = 3.0; |
| 15:55 |
Krock |
and this in the function where the player's position is set |
| 15:55 |
Krock |
I assume this comes from in-game, where admins teleport players that dno't fly |
| 15:55 |
Fixer |
for example parkour maps with saving position, this 3 seconds can be used to avoid damage in parkour |
| 15:56 |
Fixer |
by doing /home and jumping with sneak |
| 15:56 |
Krock |
I'm already writing a pull for this, to shorten down to perhaps 2 seconds |
| 15:56 |
Fixer |
sneak is not needed btw %) |
| 15:56 |
Fixer |
within 3 seconds any jump is non damage |
| 15:57 |
Fixer |
interesting |
| 15:57 |
Krock |
the old sneak code just opened another possiblity to evade |
| 15:58 |
Krock |
Fixer, could you please also add this code reference to your comment on github? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/network/clientpackethandler.cpp#L585-L587 |
| 15:58 |
Fixer |
yes |
| 15:58 |
paramat |
thanks |
| 15:59 |
Krock |
easier for developers and perhaps some players to understand why |
| 15:59 |
Fixer |
i feel not good for this timer |
| 15:59 |
Fixer |
huge hack |
| 15:59 |
Fixer |
but maybe there are reasons |
| 16:00 |
paramat |
i can't see a good reason for the cooldown (yet) |
| 16:00 |
paramat |
if you fall, too bad |
| 16:00 |
Fixer |
maybe because of teleport speed + lag? |
| 16:02 |
paramat |
player would be suspended in ignore not moving |
| 16:02 |
Fixer |
m_ignore_damage_timer is used in other parts of minetest too |
| 16:02 |
Fixer |
client.cpp |
| 16:02 |
Fixer |
for example |
| 16:03 |
Fixer |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=m_ignore_damage_timer&type= |
| 16:03 |
Krock |
yes, the damage handling, that is. |
| 16:04 |
Krock |
don't care about it now. removing the variable |
| 16:05 |
paramat |
i would remove it, or if there's a good reason make it an option |
| 16:05 |
Fixer |
maybe ask celeron |
| 16:05 |
Fixer |
maybe he remembers |
| 16:05 |
Fixer |
celeron55: |
| 16:08 |
Fixer |
reducing it one thing but completely removing can be dangerous without full understanding |
| 17:00 |
Krock |
Fixer, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5552 |
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| 17:16 |
Fixer |
Krock: yeah, i see it |
| 17:17 |
VanessaE |
zzz *snort* wha? *rubs eyes* good morning all (or something) |
| 17:20 |
Krock |
moin, VanessaE |
| 17:21 |
VanessaE |
so what's today's drama? :) |
| 17:22 |
Krock |
I found the anti-damage suit that lasts for three seconds after respawn |
| 17:23 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 17:23 |
Krock |
which also make me scratching on the head for many times |
| 17:23 |
Krock |
(searching a bug where none is) |
| 17:24 |
Krock |
and now it's apparently a feature that's going to removed by HAAAAAANDS |
| 17:24 |
VanessaE |
I feel bad for stu, seems like every time he releases an Armor mod update, something breaks :) |
| 17:24 |
Fixer |
Krock: maybe it has to do with teleporting/respawn or smth, comment itself says about falling... but who knows |
| 17:25 |
Krock |
Fixer, if nobody knows why it was originally added, it's going to removed as there's apparently no big use (apart from cheating) from it |
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| 17:39 |
tenplus1 |
hi folks |
| 17:44 |
Shara |
Hi everyone |
| 17:44 |
tenplus1 |
hi Shara |
| 17:44 |
Shara |
Hi tenplus1 :) |
| 17:47 |
CWz |
Ello |
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| 17:48 |
tenplus1 |
hi CWz, hi octacian |
| 17:48 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
| 17:49 |
Twentyplus10 |
Ello |
| 17:50 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 17:50 |
tenplus1 |
hi Vanessa |
| 17:51 |
benrob0329 |
http://m.imgur.com/81NLVz6 |
| 17:51 |
tenplus1 |
lolol, hi ben |
| 17:51 |
benrob0329 |
Hello |
| 18:03 |
Jordach |
*eurobeat plays in the distance* |
| 18:04 |
tenplus1 |
*unf unf unf unf unf unf* |
| 18:07 |
* CWz |
places a giant pie on the table |
| 18:07 |
* CWz |
wonders off |
| 18:08 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 18:08 |
benrob0329 |
What flavor? |
| 18:10 |
tenplus1 |
7-up |
| 18:12 |
red-001 |
did https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5418 happen to anyone here? |
| 18:12 |
tenplus1 |
I do get those warning messages but thankfully it never crashes anything |
| 18:13 |
benrob0329 |
tenplus1: you missed the opportunity... |
| 18:13 |
benrob0329 |
PIE FLAVOR! |
| 18:14 |
tenplus1 |
heh :) |
| 18:14 |
Fixer |
POOOP |
| 18:14 |
benrob0329 |
Thays just gross |
| 18:15 |
tenplus1 |
my pie (cake) mod has meat flavour :D |
| 18:15 |
benrob0329 |
Kill it... |
| 18:15 |
benrob0329 |
WITH FIRE |
| 18:16 |
tenplus1 |
meatloaf pah! |
| 18:16 |
* Jordach |
plays 80s rock |
| 18:16 |
benrob0329 |
*hurls* |
| 18:16 |
Fixer |
poop flavour |
| 18:16 |
benrob0329 |
Again, thats just gross |
| 18:17 |
tenplus1 |
ehehehehe, we already have normal cake, banoffee pie, strawberry cheesecake, red velvet, coffee, and meat |
| 18:17 |
benrob0329 |
You should add.. |
| 18:17 |
benrob0329 |
PUE FLAVOR |
| 18:17 |
tenplus1 |
pue ? |
| 18:18 |
benrob0329 |
Dirp, my typing skills are not the best on a phone |
| 18:18 |
Jordach |
and i thought mine was bad |
| 18:18 |
benrob0329 |
Ahhhem.. |
| 18:18 |
Jordach |
jeeez |
| 18:18 |
benrob0329 |
PIE FLAVOR! |
| 18:21 |
Fixer |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2916 |
| 18:21 |
Fixer |
interesting |
| 18:22 |
benrob0329 |
tenplus1: do you have a link to your pie mod? |
| 18:22 |
benrob0329 |
I have a pr to make... |
| 18:22 |
tenplus1 |
github.com/tenplus1/pie |
| 18:22 |
celeron55 |
the point of the fall damage cooldown is that the player doesn't get hurt when it spawns into the world or teleports somewhere |
| 18:22 |
tenplus1 |
hi celeron |
| 18:23 |
Fixer |
Krock: ^^ |
| 18:23 |
red-001 |
^^^ |
| 18:23 |
Fixer |
i guess it can be safely removed then |
| 18:23 |
* Jordach |
has that problem in Solar Plains |
| 18:23 |
Fixer |
teleporter is responsible for any damages he does to himself |
| 18:23 |
Krock |
yes, I already assumed something like that. Doesn't seem to be too important |
| 18:24 |
Fixer |
please nuke it |
| 18:24 |
Fixer |
time to suffer gravity |
| 18:24 |
* Shara |
seems to always spawn underground... |
| 18:24 |
Fixer |
i never had problems with spawning in mid air, only problem is damn spawn in tree |
| 18:25 |
Jordach |
Fixer, i have an experimental safe spawn |
| 18:25 |
Shara |
It's always been underground and needing to grant myself noclip to get out |
| 18:25 |
Krock |
we already have a pretty good initial spawn algorithm and admin-failure can't be prevented at all |
| 18:25 |
Jordach |
Krock, Solar Plains spawns users from -20k-> +20k |
| 18:26 |
Krock |
<.< |
| 18:26 |
Jordach |
trying to mine near spawn on a public server is something for mentally inane people |
| 18:27 |
Fixer |
Jordach: mamber Kray spawn with deep chasm below? |
| 18:27 |
Jordach |
yeeeeeep |
| 18:28 |
Fixer |
^______________^ |
| 18:30 |
Jordach |
>tenplus1's food mod |
| 18:30 |
Jordach |
> http://i.imgur.com/soTe69k.jpg |
| 18:30 |
tenplus1 |
ehehehe |
| 18:35 |
Fixer |
tenplus1: remind me, are those mobs br--dable? |
| 18:36 |
tenplus1 |
yeah, certain animals and npc's can be bred |
| 18:36 |
Fixer |
tenplus1: remind me, what is useful apart from cow and sheep? |
| 18:37 |
Krock |
Jordach, seen the dump on imgur too. Do you also fight against the sun all day? |
| 18:37 |
tenplus1 |
warthog gives pork :))) |
| 18:37 |
tenplus1 |
chickens give eggs |
| 18:37 |
tenplus1 |
will add feathers soon when I have more recipes for use |
| 18:41 |
benrob0329 |
Wee need bows in mtg |
| 18:41 |
tenplus1 |
github.com/tenplus1/bows |
| 18:41 |
benrob0329 |
Or some kind of distance weapon |
| 18:41 |
Jordach |
bow ties, hair bows, shortbows, longbows or recurve bows |
| 18:41 |
benrob0329 |
isn't it obvious? |
| 18:42 |
benrob0329 |
Bow Ties, I mean comr on |
| 18:42 |
* Shara |
was going to do that |
| 18:42 |
benrob0329 |
Because... |
| 18:42 |
Shara |
Then I realised it would just be silly on my server :D |
| 18:42 |
benrob0329 |
Biw Ties are Cool |
| 18:43 |
benrob0329 |
And I can't type one handed |
| 18:43 |
Shara |
I wanted to have accesories that could be worn instea dof armour to give some bonuses at the price of no defence |
| 18:43 |
* Shara |
can't type two handed either |
| 18:51 |
TommyTreasure |
try typing with a pencil duck taped to the cast on your left hand! lol |
| 18:51 |
TommyTreasure |
hello people |
| 18:51 |
benrob0329 |
Hi |
| 18:51 |
tenplus1 |
hi tommy |
| 18:53 |
Jordach |
Minetest: http://i.imgur.com/bi03wwa.jpg |
| 18:53 |
tenplus1 |
hah |
| 18:53 |
benrob0329 |
hmm |
| 18:54 |
benrob0329 |
id make a better game, called Eternity |
| 18:54 |
* Jordach |
irl http://i.imgur.com/9vqkiQb.jpg |
| 18:56 |
tenplus1 |
seen som any dank memes with that one lately |
| 18:56 |
Krock |
Jordach, upscale your IRL image with waifu2x :P |
| 18:57 |
benrob0329 |
#minetest-memes, for all your meme needs |
| 18:57 |
Jordach |
benrob0329, http://i.imgur.com/pOqv9M7.jpg |
| 18:58 |
benrob0329 |
8-BG? |
| 18:58 |
tenplus1 |
https://pics.onsizzle.com/2438828.png |
| 18:59 |
benrob0329 |
Kill it, kill it with acid |
| 18:59 |
benrob0329 |
tenplus1: why does your pie mod only have cake? |
| 18:59 |
tenplus1 |
https://68.media.tumblr.com/62152b87f72be145afd8a6727ad08a27/tumblr_inline_ocqdbf1S261qgp297_540.jpg |
| 18:59 |
benrob0329 |
is the Pie a lie? |
| 18:59 |
tenplus1 |
pie = cake |
| 18:59 |
benrob0329 |
it is not the same! |
| 19:02 |
Krock |
Jordach, you can clean your motherboard this way. No problem, as long no battery is mounted anymore. Just make sure it's somewhat dry when testing |
| 19:06 |
red-001 |
you can clean it that way for sure |
| 19:06 |
red-001 |
the thing that isn't is that it will contiune to work afterwards |
| 19:06 |
benrob0329 |
tenplus1: if the pie is a lie, then pie flavor doeth not exsist! |
| 19:07 |
tenplus1 |
the pie is no lie :D |
| 19:07 |
Krock |
only the cake is a lie. pie is fine. |
| 19:07 |
tenplus1 |
was gonna add cupcakes also for each pie flavour but I only have permission to use textures on server |
| 19:08 |
benrob0329 |
but the pie is really cake, that is not the way! |
| 19:08 |
benrob0329 |
pie must be pie! |
| 19:08 |
tenplus1 |
it was made to replace the original pie mod with had 1 pie.. I added API to add new pie's and made it work with hudbars, hbhunger and stamina mod... |
| 19:08 |
tenplus1 |
the name stuck |
| 19:09 |
benrob0329 |
Pie != Cake |
| 19:09 |
benrob0329 |
pie:pie == cake, and my life is a lie |
| 19:09 |
tenplus1 |
eheheheh, *noms cake* |
| 19:10 |
* benrob0329 |
noms on a c book |
| 19:10 |
Krock |
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCbP-oMWEAAT8AH.jpg |
| 19:10 |
benrob0329 |
specifically, the C book |
| 19:11 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
| 19:11 |
benrob0329 |
Krock: but IE died a few years ago..oh wait it doesnt know that yet |
| 19:12 |
tenplus1 |
http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/fitted/620x/this-windows-10-joke-just-won-the-internet-491641-8.jpg |
| 19:12 |
Krock |
died officially but it still walks and trolls in its grave |
| 19:12 |
tenplus1 |
brb |
| 19:13 |
benrob0329 |
IE is the walking dead, but in 2012 |
| 19:14 |
Krock |
related: (for those here who haven't seen it yet) https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aBW6rYZ_700b.jpg |
| 19:15 |
rubenwardy |
loooool |
| 19:16 |
Fixer |
lol |
| 19:18 |
benrob0329 |
lol |
| 19:19 |
tenplus1 |
https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-5939690cf5ba8aab26f174a0499b4c27-c |
| 19:20 |
tenplus1 |
last one: http://wanna-joke.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/internet-explorer-windows-comics1.jpg |
| 19:21 |
paramat |
Shara is it mgvalleys that spawns you underground? |
| 19:22 |
red-001 |
could someone explain to me how chrome always uses up all my memory no matter how much I have? |
| 19:22 |
tenplus1 |
you can disable cache to speed things up and save memory |
| 19:22 |
benrob0329 |
because FireFox is the only way |
| 19:22 |
red-001 |
it used up all my memory when I used it on a pc with 4gb and it does the same thing on a pc with 8gb |
| 19:22 |
* tenplus1 |
has 2gb and runs with chromium no probs |
| 19:23 |
Fixer |
like yesterday I run firefox with 1tab open on 760mb PC, full mem, laaaaaaaaaaag |
| 19:23 |
red-001 |
yeah it ran well on both systems |
| 19:23 |
benrob0329 |
is it bad that my laptop is running at 41c ? |
| 19:23 |
Jordach |
no |
| 19:23 |
red-001 |
but it's annoying when you use your pc for things other then chrome |
| 19:23 |
Krock |
that's normal |
| 19:23 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: not at all |
| 19:23 |
Jordach |
if its ~75c |
| 19:23 |
Jordach |
r u n |
| 19:24 |
red-001 |
it seems to try to take up all the memory it can like some sort of werid malware |
| 19:24 |
benrob0329 |
it idles around 35c , but its kind of in the sun atm |
| 19:24 |
tenplus1 |
on linux edit: /etc/google-chrome/default and change chromium_flags to read: CHROMIUM_FLAGS="--disk-cache-dir=/dev/null --disk-cache-size=1 --media-cache-size=1" |
| 19:24 |
Krock |
tenplus1, the sign about the laptops looks like a mean warning |
| 19:24 |
tenplus1 |
hehe yeah |
| 19:25 |
benrob0329 |
75c though? it wouldnt still be in my lap lol |
| 19:25 |
benrob0329 |
id be tossin it in the freezer |
| 19:25 |
Jordach |
frieza* |
| 19:25 |
Jordach |
huehuebrbrbr |
| 19:26 |
Fixer |
frizar |
| 19:26 |
benrob0329 |
The Freezer 3000 |
| 19:29 |
Shara |
paramat: seems to be anything and everything single player that does it |
| 19:29 |
Shara |
I can test more at some point |
| 19:29 |
tenplus1 |
the 0,0,0 spawn thing shara ? |
| 19:29 |
Shara |
Nope, it's a singleplayer thing |
| 19:30 |
tenplus1 |
? |
| 19:30 |
Shara |
It's not a big deal, especially if no one else has been having it |
| 19:30 |
Shara |
tenplus1: I always spawn underground when starting new on singleplayer |
| 19:30 |
tenplus1 |
latest dev ? |
| 19:31 |
Shara |
No. It's been consistent for a while though. |
| 19:31 |
Shara |
I'd say it's probably my settings, but had it on multiple clients |
| 19:31 |
tenplus1 |
weird... havent had that issue... windows or linux ? |
| 19:31 |
Shara |
windows |
| 19:32 |
tenplus1 |
is it always at same position ?? |
| 19:32 |
Shara |
Don't know. It's not something I've really looked at probably. Was just an observation |
| 19:32 |
Shara |
properly* |
| 19:32 |
tenplus1 |
check .conf for static_spawnpoint |
| 19:33 |
Shara |
As I said, multiple clients, so can't be that |
| 19:33 |
Shara |
But in the middle of ten things at once right now, so nto a good time to dig :P |
| 19:33 |
tenplus1 |
and different mapgens ? |
| 19:33 |
Shara |
not* |
| 19:37 |
Shara |
I really can't say without spending some time testing it |
| 19:37 |
tenplus1 |
testing now on linux :P |
| 19:38 |
Krock |
offtopic: a ship shipping ships: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C87u7MfWAAQ5NHv.jpg |
| 19:38 |
tenplus1 |
lol Krock |
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| 19:41 |
paramat |
thanks, if it happens again check F5 for co-ords 0,0,0 |
| 19:42 |
tenplus1 |
cant reproduce, and it's very weird that it's a windows only thing |
| 19:42 |
VanessaE |
Krock: "you dawg, I heard you like to ship things, so I put a shipping ship under your shipping ships so you can ship while you ship." :) |
| 19:43 |
VanessaE |
yo* |
| 19:43 |
Krock |
yeah, in about that. |
| 19:43 |
Shara |
paramat: it definitely was not 0,0,0 bug |
| 19:44 |
Shara |
but it's really not a thing I'm worried about for now. I'll do a proper test sometime. |
| 19:44 |
paramat |
no prob |
| 19:45 |
Shara |
:) |
| 19:48 |
* Sokomine |
tries to sort all that ship shipping out and fails |
| 19:49 |
Fixer |
i have problems with spawning in trees, v7 |
| 19:50 |
Sokomine |
there's at least one subgame that has leaves where you can walk and climb through. that's very convenient. i sometimes miss it in normal mtg. spawning in trees would be less problematic then |
| 19:58 |
benrob0329 |
ive gotten my laptop down to 38c, but the top still feels like its a flippen solar pannel |
| 20:01 |
Jordach |
use a macbook :^) |
| 20:01 |
benrob0329 |
or a laptop that doesnt have a black surface |
| 20:01 |
* tenplus1 |
installs Xubuntu on macbook |
| 20:01 |
TommyTreasure |
decrease display brightness and contrast |
| 20:02 |
TommyTreasure |
? |
| 20:02 |
* benrob0329 |
would install Antergos on a macbook |
| 20:02 |
benrob0329 |
nah, its the fact that the sun is shining on it |
| 20:02 |
benrob0329 |
and im co pilot in a car so i cant move |
| 20:02 |
tenplus1 |
why not buy an actual solar panel for lid :) free power |
| 20:02 |
* TommyTreasure |
searches for sunglasses for lappy's |
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| 20:03 |
benrob0329 |
hi octacian |
| 20:03 |
benrob0329 |
hi again octacian |
| 20:03 |
octacian |
hey benrob0329 |
| 20:03 |
tenplus1 |
http://fffff.at/fuckflickr/data/kanye-webst/kanye-laptop-glasses.jpg |
| 20:03 |
TommyTreasure |
lol |
| 20:04 |
benrob0329 |
what are those? |
| 20:04 |
benrob0329 |
aside from butt ugly |
| 20:04 |
Jordach |
shutter shades |
| 20:04 |
benrob0329 |
thats the worst idea ive ever heard |
| 20:05 |
TommyTreasure |
bad joke in this case: when you're cool, the sun always shines |
| 20:05 |
Jordach |
welcome to the ghetto |
| 20:06 |
atorian37 |
i need urgent help. a player set my world on fire, i already future_banned him and rollback the interacts of him. is there a way to restore landscape to the time before he enters the game? |
| 20:06 |
Krock |
you can regenerate the terrain if there are no buildings around |
| 20:06 |
benrob0329 |
\/deleteblocks |
| 20:06 |
benrob0329 |
/deleteblocks |
| 20:06 |
Fixer |
i've seen everything https://i.imgur.com/05xNJdR.png |
| 20:07 |
atorian37 |
ok what is the preferred way if there are no buildings (but its a huge area of forest) |
| 20:07 |
benrob0329 |
*facedesk* |
| 20:07 |
tenplus1 |
o.O |
| 20:07 |
benrob0329 |
just //deleteblocks here 10 |
| 20:07 |
benrob0329 |
do that a few times |
| 20:07 |
benrob0329 |
or up it to 20 |
| 20:07 |
atorian37 |
ok, what means the number? |
| 20:08 |
Krock |
the range |
| 20:08 |
atorian37 |
thanks! |
| 20:08 |
tenplus1 |
//deleteblocks 10 regenerates the area of map you are standing in up to 10 blocks in all directions |
| 20:08 |
Krock |
prefer lower values to not destroy buildings nearby |
| 20:08 |
Krock |
where BLOCKS = 16^3 NODES |
| 20:08 |
paramat |
it will regen the forest too |
| 20:08 |
atorian37 |
ok I give it a try with 5 or os |
| 20:09 |
atorian37 |
so |
| 20:09 |
paramat |
although, it may regen the whole mapchunk of 80^3 nodes |
| 20:09 |
paramat |
probably will in fact |
| 20:09 |
Krock |
(for default chunksize 5) |
| 20:10 |
paramat |
yeah |
| 20:10 |
Krock |
since that param can be changed easily |
| 20:10 |
Sokomine |
atorian37: might be best to create a backup of your world first before starting to restore. and don't forget to remove fire |
| 20:10 |
paramat |
the range may be in nodes |
| 20:10 |
atorian37 |
that gives "worldedit no region sleected" :( |
| 20:10 |
TommyTreasure |
you may also want to consider adding 'disable_fire = true' to your minetest.conf |
| 20:11 |
atorian37 |
thats a good idea too thanks |
| 20:11 |
paramat |
/ is worldedit command, / is MT builtin command |
| 20:11 |
paramat |
sorry, // is worldedit |
| 20:11 |
Sokomine |
that's essential for servers, yes. the only server that might get away with fire beeing active is the adventuretest testserver. and even there there's a huge forrest on fire that has been like this for month |
| 20:12 |
atorian37 |
ok that worked... |
| 20:12 |
benrob0329 |
oh, hi Sokomine |
| 20:12 |
Sokomine |
hi benrob0329 |
| 20:13 |
paramat |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/builtin/game/chatcommands.lua#L471 |
| 20:15 |
TommyTreasure |
i set my own world on fire. found the fix quickly! |
| 20:16 |
Shara |
It feels like fire should be disabled by default for servers really (if it isn't) |
| 20:16 |
tenplus1 |
+1 you never know who will start a huge forest fire |
| 20:17 |
Shara |
I've run into so many new server owners who are upset/in a panic about things being burned down, and they simply didn't know the option was a thing |
| 20:19 |
red-001 |
+1 to fire being off by default on servers |
| 20:19 |
Shara |
paramat / other devs: any thoughts about that? |
| 20:20 |
* Sokomine |
nods heavily to Shara |
| 20:20 |
Sokomine |
it's something most server owners have to learn over time. fire on servers really isn't a good idea. it might be ok in singleplayer hardcore survival... |
| 20:21 |
tenplus1 |
also disabled lava buckets on xanadu |
| 20:21 |
Sokomine |
they're another common problem, yes |
| 20:21 |
Shara |
I priv lock lava buckets |
| 20:21 |
Sokomine |
but fire on servers...that always comes up. disabling it by default might be a very good idea |
| 20:27 |
benrob0329 |
or making it less cpu intensive |
| 20:28 |
* benrob0329 |
mentions having an "burning" state for nodes, rather than a seperate mod... |
| 20:31 |
Sokomine |
cpu intensive is one factor against fire on servers. unwanted destruction usually weights even more heavy. on the few servers where fire might be wanted, it ccan still be enabled if it's off by default. at least those server owners enabling it will then koow what they're doing |
| 20:32 |
atorian37 |
I disabled it from now on, thank you all for the immediate help, I did not know the /deletblocks command. I guess buildings has to be repaired "by hand"? |
| 20:32 |
tenplus1 |
nite folks |
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| 20:32 |
Shara |
atorian37: it can also be good to enable rollback, though some people may disagree with me. |
| 20:32 |
Sokomine |
perhaps rollback might help |
| 20:33 |
atorian37 |
rollback is enabled allready but does tis help with fire damage? |
| 20:34 |
benrob0329 |
he does have a point |
| 20:34 |
Shara |
never had fire damage to test |
| 20:34 |
Shara |
Hmm |
| 20:34 |
benrob0329 |
rollback should be able to revert fire damage |
| 20:35 |
Shara |
rollback reverts actions of a named player right? So depends if the destruction is counted as an action of the player or something else? |
| 20:35 |
atorian37 |
do you know the syntax? usually I use /rollback <player> <time in seconds> |
| 20:35 |
benrob0329 |
perhaps a custom "player" called fire or something should be added |
| 20:35 |
Shara |
benrob0329: problem then is 'which fire?' |
| 20:35 |
atorian37 |
omg |
| 20:35 |
benrob0329 |
probably all fire damage |
| 20:36 |
benrob0329 |
just, everything in general would be reverted |
| 20:36 |
benrob0329 |
that was effected by fire |
| 20:36 |
Shara |
But assuming fire is enabled intentionally, some people use it for land clearing. |
| 20:36 |
Shara |
so you'd revert actions people wanted as well. Could get messy |
| 20:36 |
paramat |
maybe, worth considering, like tnt is then |
| 20:38 |
atorian37 |
anyway, the fire was not naturally born, it was sabotage, so pay attention to angrybuilder666 IP: 77.251.61.140 if you like |
| 20:38 |
Shara |
paramat: yes, that's what I'm thinking |
| 20:42 |
paramat |
our new biomes have massive dense forests so fire is much more dangerous now, worse than tnt |
| 20:42 |
paramat |
could someone open an issue to remind us? |
| 20:43 |
Shara |
I can probably look at how to change it, if you want |
| 20:44 |
paramat |
up to you, it's simple |
| 20:44 |
Shara |
probably the right level for me then :P |
| 20:44 |
paramat |
also fire puts a heavy lua load on a server |
| 20:44 |
paramat |
heh |
| 20:44 |
Shara |
:) |
| 20:44 |
Sokomine |
exactly. fire on a server is very very rarely a good idea |
| 20:44 |
Shara |
I'll see if I can work it out :) |
| 20:45 |
Shara |
If I fail, expect an issue to show up |
| 20:45 |
* Sokomine |
hands Shara a fire extinguisher :-) |
| 20:46 |
Shara |
Perfect way to start :D |
| 20:46 |
* benrob0329 |
grabs a fire engine |
| 20:47 |
paramat |
fire already has a setting, just needs to be linked to 'singleplayer' like tnt is |
| 20:48 |
Shara |
Yup, just looking at tnt now |
| 20:48 |
paramat |
anyway i will support a PR that does this |
| 20:49 |
TommyTreasure |
+1 |
| 20:49 |
Shara |
Seems a fair few people here are in favour at least |
| 20:49 |
Shara |
Please leave it to me to try, if you don't mind. AFK for a bit, but pretty sure I can do this one. |
| 21:03 |
paramat |
sure, less work for others |
| 21:38 |
Calinou |
https://lut.im/Qmyxb6DfVX/1mXIrD11SR9WQJQg.png |
| 21:39 |
Calinou |
finally got productive today, made a Doom map |
| 21:39 |
Calinou |
10/10 would do it again |
| 21:41 |
benrob0329 |
someone should make doom for MT |
| 21:41 |
Calinou |
do eet |
| 21:41 |
* Jordach |
hears Mick Gordon in the distance |
| 21:42 |
Calinou |
SLADE is pretty dope for a native app, actually :P |
| 21:42 |
Calinou |
has fancy animations, 3D view, etc |
| 21:49 |
Fixer |
fucking roleplay bullshit again |
| 21:53 |
Fixer |
finally they even kicked that * * |
| 22:00 |
Jordach |
FeelsGoodMan |
| 22:06 |
Fixer |
stupid bullshit again about hacking each other |
| 22:06 |
Fixer |
facepalm.png |
| 22:07 |
benrob0329 |
wait..what |
| 22:07 |
benrob0329 |
that doesnt even..you know what i give up |
| 22:08 |
benrob0329 |
http://imgur.com/a/cWsiC |
| 22:10 |
Fixer |
they are too stupid to discover a locked chest :( |
| 22:10 |
benrob0329 |
its called being a 7 year old with too much internet access |
| 22:14 |
benrob0329 |
You know what i think? |
| 22:14 |
benrob0329 |
Computers == Techy Kid |
| 22:14 |
benrob0329 |
Phones == Roleplayer |
| 22:14 |
VanessaE |
heh |
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| 22:25 |
Fixer |
the problem is even 3 yr olds have phones, that ends up badly for the internets |
| 22:25 |
Calinou |
benrob0329: me making my map: http://iruntheinternet.com/lulzdump/images/doom-guy-nodding-kid-computer-thumbs-up-1407541825R.gif |
| 22:26 |
Fixer |
Calinou: now do duke nukem |
| 22:27 |
Fixer |
awesome game |
| 22:27 |
Fixer |
i have duke nukem with 1 gb of addons |
| 22:28 |
Fixer |
already played some of them, huge win |
| 22:28 |
Calinou |
Fixer: meh |
| 22:30 |
Fixer |
like "duke hard" |
| 22:30 |
Fixer |
was epic win |
| 22:31 |
Fixer |
game is like 30 years old yet it looks so damn good |
| 22:31 |
Fixer |
or 20 years old |
| 22:33 |
Calinou |
it's 21 years old now |
| 22:41 |
Fixer |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CR90nahNtc |
| 22:47 |
Sokomine |
perhaps the phone users do rpg because building is too tricky with their clients. although i'm always astonished that people manage to write on their phones...it's very tricky for me. nothing like a keyboard.... |
| 22:49 |
rubenwardy |
I#m a pretty good touch typer, just not on a phone |
| 22:49 |
rubenwardy |
O d0jt make misatakes mich |
| 22:49 |
Shara |
:D |
| 22:50 |
Shara |
Sokomine: same, but I have one player who only ever uses a phone, and he's an amazing builder. |
| 22:50 |
Fixer |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGkroXu8KdA amount of action... |
| 22:50 |
Shara |
He was working on a whole harbour area with several large and quite detailed ships last time I looked |
| 22:50 |
rubenwardy |
Anyone know how to catch an error in Haskell? I want to do if returns_error (f x) then a else f x |
| 22:51 |
rubenwardy |
akin to try { return f(x); } catch { return a; } |
| 22:51 |
Shara |
never looked at Haskell |
| 22:53 |
Sokomine |
Shara: sounds very good. need to do sightseeing on your server again |
| 22:53 |
Shara |
Only problem with siteseeing on RC is that the really good builds tend to be out in the middle of nowhere |
| 22:54 |
Shara |
I loved finding those ships though. First time I saw someone using the porthole nodes I made |
| 22:55 |
Sokomine |
ah. yes. those look very nice |
| 22:55 |
Sokomine |
don't you hand out travelnets? they ought to help with getting to nice sites |
| 22:55 |
Shara |
Thank you. I was really pleased with how they turned out |
| 22:55 |
Shara |
I won't add travelnets. I really don't like them. |
| 22:55 |
Shara |
There's linking books though |
| 22:55 |
Sokomine |
:-( |
| 22:56 |
Sokomine |
they're made for tourists like myshelf :) |
| 22:56 |
Shara |
Problem is, some of the builders don't really want random tourists (who are then likely to build nearby and make a mess of the landscape with lovely adorable bright pink boxes of wool!) |
| 22:56 |
Sokomine |
you can give them another shape if that's what you don't like |
| 22:57 |
Sokomine |
aaah. yes. know that problem..... |
| 22:57 |
Shara |
Linking books do the job fine, so no need |
| 22:57 |
benrob0329 |
Tardies |
| 22:58 |
Shara |
I suppose the houses made purely of glass and crystal are worse than the wool though |
| 22:58 |
Sokomine |
i've built an island on the the sea is my life server. players invited tended to attach their houses. some are not too bad, but do block places where i wanted to extend the island |
| 22:58 |
Shara |
Especially the random floating cubes |
| 22:58 |
Sokomine |
on non-creative servers you get cobble shacks |
| 22:59 |
Shara |
Yea... RC has some extremely large long term projects, so thos eplayers don't want people moving in and building right by them |
| 22:59 |
Shara |
It's a difficult balance... on one level it's great to show off the nice builds, but on another level... I really do want the players to get whatever space they need |
| 22:59 |
Sokomine |
that's understandable. some servers (the german-speaking ones?) tend to have ruels about "don't build too close to other people" |
| 23:00 |
Shara |
I have such rules, but... in practice... |
| 23:00 |
Sokomine |
...which isn't such a good idea for the creation of towns around spawn... |
| 23:00 |
* benrob0329 |
has built a few cobble shacks, but the insides were generaly well decoated |
| 23:00 |
Fixer |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSoobKLXC-U this is epic |
| 23:00 |
Shara |
benrob0329: if you build cobbleboxes on my servers I shall cry :( |
| 23:00 |
benrob0329 |
I dont anymore, or if i do its a mix |
| 23:01 |
benrob0329 |
wood/cobble/planks |
| 23:01 |
Sokomine |
benrob0329: hmmm. a nice inside will not save a bad building. but...you can build cobble shacks below the surface. if there's grass growing on top and merely an entrance to the shack, nobody will mind |
| 23:01 |
Shara |
yea, that works fine :) |
| 23:01 |
Sokomine |
what does it show, fixer? |
| 23:01 |
Fixer |
Sokomine: Duke Nukem: Duke Hard (addon) |
| 23:01 |
Sokomine |
aah :-) |
| 23:01 |
Fixer |
A community episode in which every mapper built one map map, taking place in a building |
| 23:01 |
Fixer |
and each map representing a floor. You have to go up the building, floor by floor, with each |
| 23:01 |
Fixer |
floor featuring a different theme. 17 levels to explore in this really nice pack! |
| 23:02 |
Fixer |
i've played it and it was epic |
| 23:02 |
Fixer |
worth it |
| 23:02 |
Fixer |
will play again |
| 23:02 |
benrob0329 |
whats fun is making a good building out of one material (bricks etc of said material arefine, otherwise itd be impossible) |
| 23:02 |
benrob0329 |
like, some friends and i built a shop out of marble |
| 23:03 |
benrob0329 |
aside from doors/windows |
| 23:03 |
benrob0329 |
it was all marble, and it didnt look half bad |
| 23:03 |
Sokomine |
Shara: it happens often that nice landscape gets ruined...but it's also a pity not to be able to see good builds. how shall those who don't know how to do better ever learn if they never see what's possible? |
| 23:03 |
* benrob0329 |
attempts to find screenshots |
| 23:03 |
Shara |
Sokomine: agreed, but on the other hand, that is for the builders to decide |
| 23:04 |
Shara |
I'm not going to tell people there must be teleports to their areas just because it's my server |
| 23:04 |
benrob0329 |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=156&p=218759&hilit=benrob0329#p218757 |
| 23:05 |
Sokomine |
i've thought about something like linuxgaming (where's lazyj anyway?): "sell" plots at spawn for a high "price" of ingame currency. build towns with pre-set plots where people can click on a block and get that spot to build on. might even be so restrictive in the beginning that only building and digging on your own plot is possible. one server...er...minerealms(?) used to have such a only-use-your-o |
| 23:05 |
Sokomine |
n-plot-policy |
| 23:05 |
Sokomine |
Shara: no, of course not. but...sightseeing would be very very nice :-) |
| 23:06 |
benrob0329 |
I want someone to make a nice cobble shack |
| 23:06 |
benrob0329 |
just to show it can be done |
| 23:06 |
Shara |
Someone should send LazyJ an invite... though I don't know if he will join here |
| 23:06 |
Shara |
He's usually in my server channels when he is around |
| 23:06 |
Sokomine |
it's not impossible. it's just tricky, and the house ought to be rather small |
| 23:07 |
Shara |
benrob0329: I quit elike that building |
| 23:07 |
Sokomine |
lazyj definitely ought to be here |
| 23:07 |
Shara |
quite like* |
| 23:07 |
* Sokomine |
stares at the post-your-screenshots-threat in fear |
| 23:08 |
Shara |
Nice typo :) |
| 23:08 |
Sokomine |
havn't watched that for so long...loading images always takes time, although it's such a nice threat sometimes |
| 23:08 |
Shara |
threat? |
| 23:08 |
Shara |
thread? |
| 23:08 |
benrob0329 |
string? |
| 23:08 |
benrob0329 |
rope? |
| 23:08 |
Shara |
ropeladder. Clearly. |
| 23:09 |
Sokomine |
er...whatever these forum-things are :-) |
| 23:09 |
Shara |
Sokomine: threads |
| 23:09 |
benrob0329 |
I wish i had that map, that way i could take new screen shots with the new smooth lighting |
| 23:09 |
Shara |
I actually keep meaning to make rope ladders/netting of some kind |
| 23:09 |
Sokomine |
ok...i sometimes mix threat and thread up |
| 23:10 |
Fixer |
multthreading |
| 23:10 |
Sokomine |
do you have a link to that screenshot directly, benrob? |
| 23:10 |
Shara |
I want to add it to CRL... weave it out of mushroom gills so they have a use |
| 23:10 |
benrob0329 |
its about 10 screnshots |
| 23:11 |
* Shara |
is staring at tnt code |
| 23:11 |
* Sokomine |
threatens her router with more threads to download and hopes that's right now |
| 23:11 |
Shara |
:D |
| 23:11 |
benrob0329 |
Sokomine: https://mail.incredible.ninja/cloud/index.php/s/t4h0cx3hixEsQRh |
| 23:11 |
benrob0329 |
scroll down to... |
| 23:12 |
benrob0329 |
153537 |
| 23:13 |
Fixer |
https://i.imgur.com/c6fSDhi.png |
| 23:13 |
Fixer |
coococoococombobreaker |
| 23:13 |
benrob0329 |
wh....wh...why??? |
| 23:14 |
Shara |
Fixer: I see waaaay too much of this! |
| 23:14 |
Shara |
Please don't make me look at more. |
| 23:14 |
benrob0329 |
How about, you can be sisters, if i get my 17 bytes back |
| 23:15 |
Sokomine |
benrob0329: ah. looks nice. definitely not that nasty cobble material :-) |
| 23:15 |
Fixer |
Shara: i will put a warning before link |
| 23:15 |
Fixer |
NSFS |
| 23:15 |
Sokomine |
Fixer: you ought to |
| 23:16 |
Fixer |
we can be sisters and have money |
| 23:16 |
* Fixer |
stops here before going too deep |
| 23:16 |
Fixer |
and no moderators |
| 23:16 |
* VanessaE |
grumbles |
| 23:17 |
benrob0329 |
and right after that marble building, you can see a screenshot of FlightGear with waaay too much bloom |
| 23:17 |
VanessaE |
(not at the above. :) I need nore's eyes on some code) |
| 23:17 |
benrob0329 |
https://mail.incredible.ninja/cloud/index.php/s/AdK11FX0E8HiHGy |
| 23:20 |
Shara |
Fixer: Sure :) |
| 23:21 |
Shara |
Hi VanessaE :) |
| 23:21 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 23:21 |
rubenwardy |
> incredible.ninja |
| 23:21 |
rubenwardy |
cool |
| 23:23 |
benrob0329 |
friend of mine snatched that domain, i dont regret him doing so either :-D |
| 23:24 |
Fixer |
back from pooping, time to write a suggestion for chat6 |
| 23:25 |
benrob0329 |
thanks for the info... |
| 23:27 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: np |
| 23:30 |
Wayward_One |
What an interesting time for me to join xD |
| 23:30 |
Shara |
Hi Wayward_One :) |
| 23:31 |
Wayward_One |
Hello Shara :) |
| 23:31 |
Wayward_One |
How are you today? |
| 23:31 |
Shara |
Not too bad thanks. You? |
| 23:33 |
Wayward_One |
That's good. I'm tired and bruised, but good lol. (Just got back from paintballing) |
| 23:35 |
Shara |
Fun. I've always wanted to try it, but never found anyone mad enough to come with me :P |
| 23:36 |
Fixer |
anyone has experience with lava orbs in minetest? |
| 23:37 |
Fixer |
killed like <10 monsters - still no orb |
| 23:37 |
Fixer |
so creepy to walk near lava with new sneak system |
| 23:38 |
Wayward_One |
Lol Shara :p |
| 23:39 |
Shara |
Fixer: Odds of getting them are quite low |
| 23:39 |
Fixer |
that lava pickaxe is all i want |
| 23:41 |
Fixer |
before going to sleep, found this https://openrct2.website/ |
| 23:41 |
Fixer |
no way |
| 23:41 |
Fixer |
good night |
| 23:43 |
Sokomine |
the orbs seem extremly rare. and the lava monsters are too cute to kill en masse |
