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Topic for #minetest-dev is now FEATURE FREEZE IN EFFECT | Minetest core development and maintenance. Chit-chat goes to #minetest. https://dev.minetest.net/ https://irc.minetest.net/ https://github.com/minetest |
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sfan5 |
it's worth considering whether #13929, #13922, #13915 should be exempt from the feature freeze |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/13929 -- Remove use_texture_alpha compatibility code for nodeboxes & meshes by sfan5 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/13922 -- Deprecate .bmp format by sfan5 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/13915 -- Set color of scrollbar/dropdown button symbols and checkmarks to white by erlehmann |
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sfan5 |
(and go into 5.8.0, obviously) |
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erle |
deprecation is not a feature |
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erle |
it's a non-functional |
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jonadab |
Right, _removing_ suppport for .bmp format, shouldn't be done after a feature freeze, but marking it as deprecated seems absolutely fine. |
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jonadab |
(Also: .bmp format, really? What is this, 1997?) |
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[MTMatrix] |
<localhost> bmp for legacy clients maybe? |
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erle |
i think the age does not matter. what matters is: a) is it a maintenance burden (it will be once a security issue is found) b) is it used at all |
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jonadab |
Right, I'm just surprised it hasn't been deprecated before now. |
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jonadab |
Even Windows 98 eventually added support for .png and .jpeg for things like wallpaper. |
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jonadab |
But quite aside from the question of how we got to the current state of affairs, I don't think a feature freeze should prevent something from being listed as deprecated, if it's due to be deprecated. |
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rubenwardy |
I'd say #13915 is basically a bug fix |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/13915 -- Set color of scrollbar/dropdown button symbols and checkmarks to white by erlehmann |
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jonadab |
The purpose of a feature freeze is to reduce the number of new bugs being introduced to a manageable level so most of them can get fixed in time for a release at some point. Deprecation doesn't introduce bugs. |
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[MTMatrix] |
<localhost> who use python3 (updates), maybe understand why deprecation may destroy some things time by time :) |
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jonadab |
Python is a dumpster fire just in general. |
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jonadab |
Especially since the introduction of pip. |
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nrz |
pythoin try to change his package manager every year since pip creation: fail, pip is too bad but impossible to find better for now haha |
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erle |
python is a dumpster fire in much funnier ways. try this for example: python3 -c 'import base64; print(base64.b64decode(" === Vm0 ^ _ ^ ===="))' |
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nrz |
it's like this on any interpreted langage since 1992 |
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