Time  Nick       Message
15:32 sfan5      it's worth considering whether #13929, #13922, #13915 should be exempt from the feature freeze
15:32 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/13929 -- Remove use_texture_alpha compatibility code for nodeboxes & meshes by sfan5
15:32 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/13922 -- Deprecate .bmp format by sfan5
15:32 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/13915 -- Set color of scrollbar/dropdown button symbols and checkmarks to white by erlehmann
15:32 sfan5      (and go into 5.8.0, obviously)
15:44 erle       deprecation is not a feature
15:44 erle       it's a non-functional
16:40 jonadab    Right, _removing_ suppport for .bmp format, shouldn't be done after a feature freeze, but marking it as deprecated seems absolutely fine.
16:41 jonadab    (Also:  .bmp format, really?  What is this, 1997?)
16:47 [MTMatrix] <localhost> bmp for legacy clients maybe?
16:48 erle       i think the age does not matter. what matters is: a) is it a maintenance burden (it will be once a security issue is found) b) is it used at all
16:51 jonadab    Right, I'm just surprised it hasn't been deprecated before now.
16:51 jonadab    Even Windows 98 eventually added support for .png and .jpeg for things like wallpaper.
16:52 jonadab    But quite aside from the question of how we got to the current state of affairs, I don't think a feature freeze should prevent something from being listed as deprecated, if it's due to be deprecated.
16:53 rubenwardy I'd say #13915 is basically a bug fix
16:53 ShadowBot  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/13915 -- Set color of scrollbar/dropdown button symbols and checkmarks to white by erlehmann
16:53 jonadab    The purpose of a feature freeze is to reduce the number of new bugs being introduced to a manageable level so most of them can get fixed in time for a release at some point.  Deprecation doesn't introduce bugs.
16:58 [MTMatrix] <localhost> who use python3 (updates), maybe understand why deprecation may destroy some things time by time :)
16:59 jonadab    Python is a dumpster fire just in general.
16:59 jonadab    Especially since the introduction of pip.
17:02 nrz        pythoin try to change his package manager every year since pip creation: fail, pip is too bad but impossible to find better for now haha
17:43 erle       python is a dumpster fire in much funnier ways. try this for example: python3 -c 'import base64; print(base64.b64decode(" === Vm0 ^ _ ^ ===="))'
17:44 nrz        it's like this on any interpreted langage since 1992