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Hijiri |
lonely PR searching for caring reviews: #4685 |
| 00:11 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4685 -- Add control information to player interacts by raymoo |
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thePalindrome |
Don't know how much sway I have, but I'll look at it :P |
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hmmmm |
est: i'm not suggesting we make another attempt at getting a wikipedia article |
| 00:25 |
hmmmm |
screw them, they've already demonstrated their bias |
| 00:25 |
est |
didn't assume you would want to |
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hmmmm |
what about other open source games with the same level of articles |
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hmmmm |
0ad? openarena? etc. |
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est |
they have a policy for that |
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est |
it says "only because B is in wikipedia and isnt notable, you can't include A too" |
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hmmmm |
by their own logic all those other things should be deleted |
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est |
Its mentioned multiple times in the thread I think |
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hmmmm |
and in their own rulebook it even mentions that an article should be deleted only as a very last resort |
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est |
I don't know |
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hmmmm |
it's selective enforcement |
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est |
some kind of bias indeed applies I guess |
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est |
in the end at wikipedia its about who has admin powers |
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est |
and if the guy with admin powers is a minecraft fan and thinks minetest is a cheap illegal copy, then there is no article about minetest on wikipedia |
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hmmmm |
yup |
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hmmmm |
i mean seriously, look at this |
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hmmmm |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenTTD |
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hmmmm |
look at the references |
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hmmmm |
95% of them are links to openttd forums or their website |
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hmmmm |
the wikipedia saga has forever ruined their reputation in my eyes |
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hmmmm |
paramat: that PR looks like a shitshow |
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hmmmm |
what it does is useful, and aside from some whitespace problems, the code looks fine, i mean it's really just boilerplate code for pushing data from lua to the client |
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hmmmm |
but yeah... |
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hmmmm |
you're cementing irrlicht interfaces to the lua api |
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hmmmm |
this needs to be done in a more intelligent manner, this is going in THE lua api |
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hmmmm |
we have a duty to preserve its functionality |
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est |
pushing this trivial fix in 10 minutes https://github.com/est31/minetest/commit/dde66a82ed06c4887ce0e63ef5f0b8d3bce2ed74 |
| 04:08 |
est |
see also https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/4709#issuecomment-258339405 |
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kaeza |
that "review" thing on github is just adding noise :/ |
| 04:14 |
est |
I like the feature that it doesn't sent you hundreds of mails if you make hundreds of comments but only one |
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est |
or at least I think it does |
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est |
I'll wait 10 more minutes for another dev to step in and cry "no!" |
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hmmmm |
that entire if/elseif chain is confusing as all hell |
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hmmmm |
would've been better as a switch statement with several cases |
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sofar |
est: hmmmm: mind looking at 4653? it's a rebased old RBA PR that I've adjusted in minor ways. |
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sofar |
#4391 seems fine as well? |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4391 -- Remove empty default of on_secondary_use. by t4im |
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red-001 |
is it possible for mods to lower the water level? |
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Foghrye4_ |
Check mapgen config. Mods can adjust config. |
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Foghrye4_ |
Also you can remove all water sources using generation hook. |
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red-001 |
I'm not trying to get rid of all water |
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red-001 |
just massively reduce the amount of water |
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Foghrye4_ |
Thats what i'm talking about. |
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Foghrye4_ |
if (min.y>0) then removewater() |
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Foghrye4_ |
or something |
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red-001 |
lowering the water levels seems to have worked |
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red-001 |
level* |
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red-001 |
werid lbms don't seems to be reliable |
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Foghrye4_ |
Oh, you probably using them wrong. |
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thePalindrome |
Could I get a consensus on #4715 ? |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4715 -- Allow non-tools to use wear to display a bar by thePalindrome |
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Foghrye4_ |
thePalindrome> I'm not a dev, but I totally agree with you. |
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Foghrye4_ |
...and that Rogier-5 dude. |
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Hijiri |
thePalindrome: if you think an on_worn_out callback is a better design, why not incorporate it into your PR? Or is there already another PR that does tahat |
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kahrl |
Any Russian speakers here? |
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kahrl |
#4707 - I asked OP to describe their request in Russian and they did, it would be great if someone could translate it to English, or check how accurate their own English translation at the end is |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4707 -- Mods menu in the main menu and official modes for convenient game |
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Krock |
someone from the freeminer is russian IIRC |
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Krock |
*freeminer devs |
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OldCoder |
Hm? Who are all the nonvoiced? |
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OldCoder |
Kindly auth |
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OldCoder |
Ah, no ChanServ? We had a massive netsplit? |
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OldCoder |
Restarting ZNC |
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Fixer |
kahrl: basicly mod store %) that can offer some set of important mods to player to consider |
| 21:31 |
Fixer |
MT has another gameplay bug, spawn one, shitty one |
| 21:32 |
Fixer |
for some reason people spawn at 0 0 0 sometimes |
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Fixer |
but can interact |
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Fixer |
it is different from other 0 0 0 bug |
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Fixer |
so ridiculous |
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thePalindrome |
Hijiri: My main concern is whether the PR should be merged or rejected :P |
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SpawnBugs |
newest spawn 0,0,0 bug could be linked to recent nerzul commits https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4728 |
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sofar |
git bisect it to be sure |
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SpawnBugs |
sofar: admin bisecting manually right now with me |
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paramat |
red-001 are you adjusting water level in mgv6? |
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SpawnBugs |
sofar: admin is having some problems with pitch error in #minetest |
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paramat |
if it's that server.cpp:73 one that doesn't explain much, run a debug build in gdb? |
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paramat |
and use a mtgame of the exact same time as the engine |
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red-001 |
yeah I'm changing the water level in mgv6 |
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paramat |
ok should work ok, doesn't work well in other mgs |
| 23:58 |
paramat |
for those raise terrain instead |
