Time Nick Message 00:11 Hijiri lonely PR searching for caring reviews: #4685 00:11 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4685 -- Add control information to player interacts by raymoo 00:21 thePalindrome Don't know how much sway I have, but I'll look at it :P 00:25 hmmmm est: i'm not suggesting we make another attempt at getting a wikipedia article 00:25 hmmmm screw them, they've already demonstrated their bias 00:25 est didn't assume you would want to 00:26 hmmmm what about other open source games with the same level of articles 00:26 hmmmm 0ad? openarena? etc. 00:26 est they have a policy for that 00:26 est it says "only because B is in wikipedia and isnt notable, you can't include A too" 00:26 hmmmm by their own logic all those other things should be deleted 00:26 est Its mentioned multiple times in the thread I think 00:27 hmmmm and in their own rulebook it even mentions that an article should be deleted only as a very last resort 00:27 est I don't know 00:27 hmmmm it's selective enforcement 00:27 est some kind of bias indeed applies I guess 00:27 est in the end at wikipedia its about who has admin powers 00:28 est and if the guy with admin powers is a minecraft fan and thinks minetest is a cheap illegal copy, then there is no article about minetest on wikipedia 00:28 hmmmm yup 00:28 hmmmm i mean seriously, look at this 00:28 hmmmm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenTTD 00:28 hmmmm look at the references 00:28 hmmmm 95% of them are links to openttd forums or their website 00:29 hmmmm the wikipedia saga has forever ruined their reputation in my eyes 00:35 hmmmm paramat: that PR looks like a shitshow 00:36 hmmmm what it does is useful, and aside from some whitespace problems, the code looks fine, i mean it's really just boilerplate code for pushing data from lua to the client 00:36 hmmmm but yeah... 00:36 hmmmm you're cementing irrlicht interfaces to the lua api 00:36 hmmmm this needs to be done in a more intelligent manner, this is going in THE lua api 00:37 hmmmm we have a duty to preserve its functionality 04:08 est pushing this trivial fix in 10 minutes https://github.com/est31/minetest/commit/dde66a82ed06c4887ce0e63ef5f0b8d3bce2ed74 04:08 est see also https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/4709#issuecomment-258339405 04:11 kaeza that "review" thing on github is just adding noise :/ 04:14 est I like the feature that it doesn't sent you hundreds of mails if you make hundreds of comments but only one 04:14 est or at least I think it does 04:15 est I'll wait 10 more minutes for another dev to step in and cry "no!" 04:41 hmmmm that entire if/elseif chain is confusing as all hell 04:41 hmmmm would've been better as a switch statement with several cases 04:48 sofar est: hmmmm: mind looking at 4653? it's a rebased old RBA PR that I've adjusted in minor ways. 04:53 sofar #4391 seems fine as well? 04:53 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4391 -- Remove empty default of on_secondary_use. by t4im 10:13 red-001 is it possible for mods to lower the water level? 10:14 Foghrye4_ Check mapgen config. Mods can adjust config. 10:15 Foghrye4_ Also you can remove all water sources using generation hook. 10:16 red-001 I'm not trying to get rid of all water 10:17 red-001 just massively reduce the amount of water 10:23 Foghrye4_ Thats what i'm talking about. 10:24 Foghrye4_ if (min.y>0) then removewater() 10:24 Foghrye4_ or something 10:33 red-001 lowering the water levels seems to have worked 10:33 red-001 level* 10:54 red-001 werid lbms don't seems to be reliable 10:55 Foghrye4_ Oh, you probably using them wrong. 11:17 thePalindrome Could I get a consensus on #4715 ? 11:17 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4715 -- Allow non-tools to use wear to display a bar by thePalindrome 11:20 Foghrye4_ thePalindrome> I'm not a dev, but I totally agree with you. 11:23 Foghrye4_ ...and that Rogier-5 dude. 17:12 Hijiri thePalindrome: if you think an on_worn_out callback is a better design, why not incorporate it into your PR? Or is there already another PR that does tahat 20:51 kahrl Any Russian speakers here? 20:52 kahrl #4707 - I asked OP to describe their request in Russian and they did, it would be great if someone could translate it to English, or check how accurate their own English translation at the end is 20:52 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4707 -- Mods menu in the main menu and official modes for convenient game 21:02 Krock someone from the freeminer is russian IIRC 21:02 Krock *freeminer devs 21:19 OldCoder Hm? Who are all the nonvoiced? 21:19 OldCoder Kindly auth 21:19 OldCoder Ah, no ChanServ? We had a massive netsplit? 21:20 OldCoder Restarting ZNC 21:31 Fixer kahrl: basicly mod store %) that can offer some set of important mods to player to consider 21:31 Fixer MT has another gameplay bug, spawn one, shitty one 21:32 Fixer for some reason people spawn at 0 0 0 sometimes 21:32 Fixer but can interact 21:32 Fixer it is different from other 0 0 0 bug 21:32 Fixer so ridiculous 22:24 thePalindrome Hijiri: My main concern is whether the PR should be merged or rejected :P 23:01 SpawnBugs newest spawn 0,0,0 bug could be linked to recent nerzul commits https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4728 23:03 sofar git bisect it to be sure 23:03 SpawnBugs sofar: admin bisecting manually right now with me 23:30 paramat red-001 are you adjusting water level in mgv6? 23:31 SpawnBugs sofar: admin is having some problems with pitch error in #minetest 23:48 paramat if it's that server.cpp:73 one that doesn't explain much, run a debug build in gdb? 23:50 paramat and use a mtgame of the exact same time as the engine 23:56 red-001 yeah I'm changing the water level in mgv6 23:57 paramat ok should work ok, doesn't work well in other mgs 23:58 paramat for those raise terrain instead