| Time |
Nick |
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| 00:01 |
nolsen |
#4389 |
| 00:01 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4389 -- Make descriptions scrollable (if long enough) |
| 00:01 |
paramat |
hi hmmmmm please can you help with #4376 ? calculating the expected hash for map_meta.txt is a big problem |
| 00:01 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4376 -- Mapgen: Remove unused 'flat' and 'trees' flags from mg_flags by paramat |
| 00:01 |
paramat |
any tips appreciated |
| 00:45 |
nolsen |
Hm, is this the only tool that "Collects media files from mods/games and puts them in a media directory, also creates an index.mth file in the MTHS format" |
| 00:45 |
nolsen |
https://gist.github.com/sfan5/6351560 |
| 00:45 |
nolsen |
Because it's borked :\ |
| 00:49 |
everamzah |
that script works for me. has to have games and worlds and mods underneath it. |
| 00:49 |
nolsen |
everamzah: Well it's spamming 404 when I connect |
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| 00:50 |
nolsen |
everamzah: The script is in minetest's directory |
| 00:50 |
nolsen |
but /media is a bunch of jibberish files with bizarre, random names. |
| 01:05 |
KaadmY |
nolsen: the names are'nt random |
| 01:06 |
KaadmY |
they're hashes of the file's contents |
| 01:06 |
KaadmY |
or the file name, not sure which |
| 01:06 |
nolsen |
KaadmY: Then why am I getting 404 errors? |
| 01:06 |
nolsen |
So this is normal? |
| 01:06 |
nolsen |
-rw-rw-r-- 1 minetest minetest 15260 Jul 30 20:22 ffcbc7407d2793dcd35d48932d338bab31c28122 |
| 01:06 |
nolsen |
-rw-rw-r-- 1 minetest minetest 152 Jul 30 20:23 ffd4d07e4c087e44574c7d2b310bf1fb77431552 |
| 01:06 |
nolsen |
-rw-rw-r-- 1 minetest minetest 924 Jul 30 20:22 fff15162a045b3ca74263d62d1af7847cc2c06f5 |
| 01:07 |
KaadmY |
yup |
| 01:07 |
KaadmY |
if you try to open them, they're the same files |
| 01:07 |
KaadmY |
except the file names are hashes |
| 01:07 |
nolsen |
But that still doesn't explain the 404 |
| 01:07 |
Void7 |
it's trying to find the real file names, not the hashes |
| 01:07 |
nolsen |
404 spam* |
| 01:08 |
KaadmY |
Void7: the script doesn't do anything with the network |
| 01:08 |
KaadmY |
it's local |
| 01:08 |
KaadmY |
i think |
| 01:08 |
KaadmY |
404 is a network issue |
| 01:08 |
KaadmY |
it means it can't find the requested file |
| 01:09 |
nolsen |
404: Nah, really? |
| 01:09 |
nolsen |
Naw* |
| 01:09 |
nolsen |
But in seriousness, it's spamming 404s |
| 01:10 |
nolsen |
It's looking for the actual file name, like Void7 |
| 01:10 |
nolsen |
not the hashes |
| 01:18 |
VanessaE |
nolsen: maybe my version of collectstatic will help? |
| 01:18 |
VanessaE |
https://daconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/Server-scripts/collectstatic.sh |
| 01:20 |
nolsen |
minetest vps:~/minetest$ ./collectstatic.sh |
| 01:20 |
nolsen |
mkdir: missing operand |
| 01:20 |
VanessaE |
(see also, build-media-dirs.sh in the same directory) |
| 01:20 |
VanessaE |
you can't just blindly run it, you know |
| 01:20 |
VanessaE |
how does it know where to find your media? or where to put it? or what to even "collect"? |
| 01:21 |
VanessaE |
those two scripts are used, along with some other stuff, to create the remote_media content my minetest instances need. |
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| 01:23 |
nolsen |
VanessaE: https://nolsen.xyz/paste/?ee71116351fc785c#W0L1HZE3eL5yN15XQl8CgxrADU9LjkC1QDUe4h0cZ8E= |
| 01:23 |
VanessaE |
um. yeah, you should expect that when you blindly run a script without seeing what it does/needs. |
| 01:24 |
nolsen |
I don't know .sh |
| 01:24 |
nolsen |
I don't know bash, I mean |
| 01:24 |
VanessaE |
open collectstatic.sh in a text editor, you should be able to tell what parameters it needs when you run it |
| 01:25 |
VanessaE |
(plus it has an example of its usage) |
| 01:26 |
VanessaE |
it will take the arguments you give it and create a directory of files with hashes for filenames. |
| 01:26 |
VanessaE |
you then need to read that directory's contents and create an index.mth from the listing. for my server, that's done in the build-media-dirs.sh script |
| 01:27 |
nolsen |
hm, .minetest |
| 01:27 |
VanessaE |
if you don't know BASH scripting, you're not gonna get too far with either mine or sfan5's original code. |
| 01:36 |
nolsen |
VanessaE: Maybe there should be an easy script installed on minetest already. |
| 02:23 |
VanessaE |
I don't think that's actually possible |
| 02:23 |
VanessaE |
a script could perhaps guess where the media comes from, but no way for it to know where it goes to or how much of your games/mods/etc have to be processed. |
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blert |
anybody try out irrlicht 1.8.5 yet? |
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| 07:07 |
paramat |
nore please could you consider game#1220 ? |
| 07:07 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1220 -- Move paper, books and book shelves into separate mod by rubenwardy |
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| 07:16 |
Krock |
I think this was my first downvote on a pull :< |
| 07:17 |
Krock |
Perfect situation for a "Controversial" label |
| 07:26 |
agaran |
Krock: for which pull? |
| 07:26 |
Krock |
the one above |
| 07:26 |
paramat |
thanks for input |
| 07:27 |
VanessaE |
paramat doesn't like downvotes :) |
| 07:27 |
Krock |
Only because it's not glues together with default does not mean to take it out of default |
| 07:27 |
Krock |
*glued |
| 07:27 |
paramat |
i'm not too bothered either way now :] |
| 07:31 |
agaran |
paper is used by some other mods too, which don't need books at all.. |
| 07:40 |
Krock |
but the books get loaded anyway |
| 07:44 |
agaran |
maybe I don't see benefit of splitting it into module |
| 07:46 |
Krock |
I don't see any aswell |
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| 07:59 |
agaran |
does it make sense at all to use 16/32+0.001 in nodeboxes definitions to make sure there is no edge visible as some modules do? |
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| 08:02 |
nolsen |
VanessaE: Maybe I did remote_media wrong, do I add index.mth in remote_media? |
| 08:02 |
VanessaE |
you put it in the same dir as the media files. |
| 08:03 |
nolsen |
remote_media = https://nolsen.xyz/minetest/media/index.mth |
| 08:03 |
VanessaE |
afaik it's just a listing of files therein |
| 08:03 |
nolsen |
So that is why is spams 404s? |
| 08:03 |
VanessaE |
maybe, I don't know |
| 08:03 |
VanessaE |
but if you lack index.mth, then it's gonna look for files by nbame |
| 08:03 |
VanessaE |
name* |
| 08:03 |
VanessaE |
rather than by hash |
| 08:04 |
nolsen |
I can't even test either way, because client keeps caching |
| 08:04 |
VanessaE |
delete the cache. |
| 08:04 |
nolsen |
Don't know how. |
| 08:04 |
VanessaE |
rm -rf ~/.cache/minetest |
| 08:04 |
nolsen |
On windows right now. |
| 08:04 |
VanessaE |
ok, so look in <minetest_dir> for /cache |
| 08:04 |
VanessaE |
delete that folder if it exists. |
| 08:08 |
nolsen |
2016-07-31 03:07:45: ERROR[CurlFetch]: https://nolsen.xyz/minetest/media/index.mth3d_armor_helmet_steel.png not found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 404) |
| 08:08 |
nolsen |
hahaha |
| 08:08 |
nolsen |
that's hilarious. |
| 08:08 |
VanessaE |
oh |
| 08:08 |
VanessaE |
remote_media = https://nolsen.xyz/minetest/media/ |
| 08:09 |
nolsen |
VanessaE: Tried that. |
| 08:09 |
VanessaE |
don't specify index.mth in the path |
| 08:09 |
nolsen |
2016-07-31 03:06:29: ERROR[CurlFetch]: https://nolsen.xyz/minetest/media/3dvessels_shelf.obj not found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 404) |
| 08:09 |
VanessaE |
did you actually create index.mth? |
| 08:09 |
nolsen |
Yes. |
| 08:10 |
VanessaE |
and it contains...? |
| 08:10 |
nolsen |
VanessaE: I don't know, I can't read it. |
| 08:10 |
nolsen |
It's hashed. |
| 08:10 |
VanessaE |
open it with notepad |
| 08:11 |
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| 08:11 |
nolsen |
https://nolsen.xyz/paste/?e179aa044d8ff423#vntgy8ru0xV+UMyWq8dvhhGcFsZL1/YkcgD6yY6voTA= |
| 08:11 |
nolsen |
Like I said |
| 08:12 |
VanessaE |
try rebuilding index.mth as plain text |
| 08:12 |
nolsen |
...how |
| 08:12 |
nolsen |
I don't know bash |
| 08:12 |
nolsen |
so I can't modify the script |
| 08:12 |
VanessaE |
I can't help you with windows. |
| 08:12 |
nolsen |
I can modify it on here... |
| 08:12 |
nolsen |
Using a magical tool called PuTTY |
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| 08:13 |
VanessaE |
you're kinda SOL if you don't know bash :P but it's just a matter of scanning the directory and writing each hashed filename out to index.mth as plain text |
| 08:14 |
nolsen |
Not everyone knows bash... |
| 08:14 |
VanessaE |
ls | grep -v index.mth | sort | while read f; do |
| 08:14 |
VanessaE |
echo -ne $f | xxd -r -p - >> $MIXDIR/index.mth |
| 08:14 |
VanessaE |
done |
| 08:14 |
VanessaE |
(where $MIXDIR is the output directory path) |
| 08:15 |
VanessaE |
I haven't used windows in like, 20 years, so no help there :) |
| 08:17 |
nolsen |
VanessaE: Will this still work with the hashed files? |
| 08:17 |
VanessaE |
I think what went wrong is that sfan5's original code assumes certain behaviors of openssl that don't work the same on some systems |
| 08:18 |
VanessaE |
so I had to tweak/rewrite the hash -> index.mth part to use xxd to create plain text |
| 08:18 |
nolsen |
index.html is still hashed |
| 08:18 |
VanessaE |
it will work if you modify it for your system |
| 08:18 |
VanessaE |
as in where your original files are located, where the hashed results go, etc etc etc |
| 08:18 |
nolsen |
Fuck it, it's 3AM, I'm going to sleep. |
| 08:19 |
* VanessaE |
sighs |
| 08:19 |
nolsen |
It isn't going to kill anyone if they have to wait 3 - 5 minutes for the game to load. |
| 08:20 |
VanessaE |
it'll kill your server's popularity chance. |
| 08:20 |
VanessaE |
but seriously, no sane person uses Windows as a server OS :P |
| 08:20 |
nolsen |
Yes, because I'm running minetest on windows. |
| 08:20 |
nolsen |
/sarcasm |
| 08:21 |
nolsen |
I worship Microsoft. |
| 08:21 |
nolsen |
/s |
| 08:21 |
nolsen |
Sarcasm aside. |
| 08:21 |
VanessaE |
well one would naturally assume if you run linux at all, especially running a server of some kind, that you know some basic scripting :P |
| 08:21 |
nolsen |
I can't script. |
| 08:21 |
nolsen |
Too complex for me. |
| 08:21 |
VanessaE |
anyone can. |
| 08:22 |
nolsen |
Not me, it is just too complex. |
| 08:22 |
VanessaE |
... |
| 08:23 |
VanessaE |
if you can program in Batch, you can program in BASH too. |
| 08:23 |
VanessaE |
it's not complicated. |
| 08:24 |
VanessaE |
(Batch...or whatever they actually call the language those scripts are written in) |
| 08:25 |
VanessaE |
in any case... at the bottom line, you basically need to dump the directory listing (of the hashed filenames) in plain text to a file and name it index.mth |
| 08:31 |
everamzah |
minetestserver --worldname name --generate_media would be awesome |
| 08:32 |
VanessaE |
that could be very useful indeed |
| 08:33 |
VanessaE |
(so long as it drops a dir full of media + index.mth in the current dir, and exits immediately) |
| 08:33 |
everamzah |
exactly |
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sfan5 |
VanessaE: but i'm pretty sure index.mth uses the raw hashes, not plain text |
| 09:36 |
VanessaE |
hm |
| 09:37 |
VanessaE |
you're right. |
| 09:37 |
VanessaE |
maybe it was just some behavior of openssl that wasn't "perfect" |
| 09:38 |
VanessaE |
I must have misread my own script :P |
| 09:39 |
VanessaE |
in any case I had to make the tweak seen there using xxd to get output minetest was happy with |
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nolsen |
VanessaE: Can't program in batch either |
| 16:21 |
Calinou |
try Batsch! it's a language that compiles to Batch and Bash :P |
| 16:26 |
sfan5 |
but is it webscale? |
| 16:28 |
nolsen |
sfan5: So what about your script? index.mth shouldn't be hashed, right? |
| 16:28 |
sfan5 |
my script is correct |
| 16:28 |
nolsen |
sfan5: But it doesn't work for some reason |
| 16:28 |
sfan5 |
why not |
| 16:29 |
nolsen |
sfan5: Every time I try to connect to my server, it spams 404s, looking for the actual file names, and not the hashes. |
| 16:29 |
nolsen |
and index.mth is not in plain text. |
| 16:29 |
sfan5 |
index.mth is not supposed to be plain text |
| 16:31 |
nolsen |
sfan5: So what is the problem? are the 404s normal? |
| 16:31 |
sfan5 |
no |
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nolsen |
I wonder can I skip the hashing part. |
| 16:35 |
nolsen |
Is the hashing required? |
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| 16:36 |
sfan5 |
the old way of doing remote_media was to just copy the files with their original names |
| 16:36 |
nolsen |
sfan5: But there is 500 of them |
| 16:36 |
nolsen |
of .pngs and stuff. |
| 16:37 |
sfan5 |
and? |
| 16:37 |
nolsen |
I can't do it manually |
| 16:40 |
sfan5 |
too bad such a thing as bash doesn't exist |
| 16:42 |
Miner_48er |
nolsen what OS? |
| 16:46 |
Miner_48er |
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18338322/how-to-find-files-recursively-by-file-type-and-copy-them-to-a-directory-while-in |
| 16:51 |
nolsen |
Miner_48er: Ubuntu 16.04 |
| 17:04 |
nolsen |
Miner_48er: For some reason, it made 'media' an unknown file, not a folder. |
| 17:04 |
nolsen |
'media' isn't blue. |
| 17:04 |
nolsen |
its white |
| 17:05 |
nolsen |
find minetest -name "*.png" -type f -exec cp {} ./media \; |
| 17:07 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE: i have just modernized my collectstatic.sh script a little https://gist.github.com/sfan5/6351560 |
| 17:08 |
* nolsen |
tries the new script |
| 17:11 |
nolsen |
This will take a bit for it to collect 500 pngs |
| 17:15 |
nolsen |
2016-07-31 12:14:55: ERROR[CurlFetch]: https://nolsen.xyz/minetest/media/3d_armor_helmet_diamond_preview.png not found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 404) |
| 17:15 |
nolsen |
nevermind |
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sfan5 |
well that's not the scripts fault |
| 17:17 |
nolsen |
sfan5: Who's fault it is? |
| 17:17 |
sfan5 |
i dont know |
| 17:17 |
sfan5 |
but the script works |
| 17:18 |
nolsen |
sfan5: Maybe you're using an outdated OS |
| 17:18 |
sfan5 |
i use arch |
| 17:18 |
nolsen |
Trying to modify the script and disable hashing |
| 17:19 |
sfan5 |
just enable the LEGACY_SYMLINKS option |
| 17:20 |
nolsen |
sfan5: Uh, how do I do that? |
| 17:20 |
sfan5 |
*sigh* |
| 17:20 |
sfan5 |
take the line that says LEGACY_SYMLINKS=0 |
| 17:20 |
sfan5 |
remove it |
| 17:20 |
Calinou |
set the variable to 1 instead of 0 |
| 17:20 |
sfan5 |
put a line with LEGACY_SYMLINKS=1 there |
| 17:25 |
nolsen |
sfan5: Hm, it says index.mth returned a 405 error code. |
| 17:26 |
sfan5 |
you'll need to fix that then |
| 17:26 |
nolsen |
Not sure how is that fixable |
| 17:27 |
nolsen |
It's trying to POST |
| 17:29 |
sfan5 |
oh right it did that |
| 17:39 |
nolsen |
sfan5: Wow, it's actually working once I enabled POST for a specific directory. |
| 17:40 |
nolsen |
But I don't think I see a change in speed. |
| 17:40 |
nolsen |
Not sure will cloudflare cache it |
| 17:41 |
sfan5 |
change in speed compared to what? |
| 17:41 |
nolsen |
sfan5: Regular? |
| 17:41 |
sfan5 |
regular what |
| 17:42 |
nolsen |
sfan5: Regular download |
| 17:42 |
nolsen |
Though now more people are joining |
| 17:42 |
nolsen |
And the server has been only on for a minute |
| 18:05 |
VanessaE |
sorry about the misinformation before, nolsen. I misread my script and it's been forever and three days since I put it into service. |
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| 19:03 |
paramat |
nore sfan5 sofar we possibly need another mtgame dev, as sofar has been inactive and i can't do much on my own. also, 3 active devs are better than 2. any ideas? how about T4im ? who has been helping out a lot, good lua coder |
| 19:07 |
Krock |
you highlighted sofar because sofar has been inactive? |
| 19:08 |
Krock |
(I would support the idea) |
| 19:09 |
paramat |
highlighted so-far so he could consider a new dev |
| 19:09 |
Krock |
I'd have some good puns ready so-far |
| 19:11 |
paramat |
rubenwardy is another possibility but says he wants to wait/consider. there may be others |
| 19:12 |
paramat |
maybe because it's summer holiday time, no one's around in engine or game |
| 19:13 |
Krock |
wait what? He's not MTG dev yet? |
| 19:15 |
paramat |
ruben? nope |
| 19:19 |
rubenwardy |
If you need a MTG dev right now, then I'm happy to help |
| 19:20 |
paramat |
cool, we do |
| 19:22 |
paramat |
^ nore sfan5 sofar Tesseract your opinions? |
| 19:24 |
T4im |
I gladly yield to rubenwardy, I think he'd be a good mtg addition |
| 19:24 |
rubenwardy |
At the end of september, uni starts again so I won't be able to do as much |
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rubenwardy |
T4im is a great contributor, he's at the very least as deserving |
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paramat |
heh T4im you don't have to yield, you might be good in engine too |
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paramat |
anyway +1 for both from me, for engine and gmae |
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haole |
I'm trying to fix https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4287 and I want to understand how does the player's head "follows" the cursor until the cursor is locate in the center of the screen |
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paramat |
celeron55 perhaps you could consider new devs ^ |
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paramat |
haole i don't understand that code yet sorry |
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haole |
paramat: I'll get there eventually, but every help can save me time :) |
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haole |
thanks |
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haole |
any help* |
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haole |
it seems that this bux that I'm working from is coming from irrlicht |
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haole |
I'm getting more debug data |
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paramat |
thanks for working on it, tricky bug |
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haole |
it's fun :) |
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rubenwardy |
The reason I wanted to wait is that I feel like I haven't done much contribution to MTG yet, and wanted to feel more worthy. s_far did a lot of good work before being offered this |
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T4im |
but you have contributed a lot to the minetest ecosystem as a whole already, and when you now get the opportunity to apply more of that upstream, then I'm sure everyone will benefit :) |
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paramat |
for me it's because you've been around for years, are trusted, are good with lua, are currently active and interested in mtgame |
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paramat |
we are also lacking devs in engine too, i don't think it's just a summer thing |
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paramat |
game#1226 T4im has this been tested? can anyone else check this? |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1226 -- Doors: fix crash for placing under unknown nodes, and on nil-player by t4im |
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paramat |
i'd like to merge this if possible later with game#1225 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1225 -- Bones: Improve bones textures by paramat |
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T4im |
yes, is tested :) |
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paramat |
ok |
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T4im |
thanks for pulling so much weight with going through all those pull requests all the time :D |
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T4im |
that is pretty amazing |
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haole |
what's a good way of logging engine stuff to a file? old-school fopen and/or c++ friends? or is there a logger already configured somewhere? |
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haole |
Just updated https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4287 with my latest findings. The bug seems to come from Irrlicht |
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haolez |
update my nick from haole to haolez to match my github account :) |
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betterthanyou710 |
hey Solan |
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betterthanyou710 |
Sloan* |
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