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Fixer |
minetest needs ingame manual/tutorial |
| 00:03 |
Fixer |
now even I'm not sure if i can use logs as fuel |
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sofar |
fixer should just start working on tutor content |
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EvergreenTree |
Any thoughts on #4127 now that the rush to release 0.4.14 is over? |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4127 -- Avoid calling DiePlayer more than once by 4Evergreen4 |
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hmmmm |
paramat did you recently change one of the biome beach nodes to gravel |
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hmmmm |
i am noticing an inconsistency in one of my test maps and i'm wondering if i screwed up somewhere and made a bug or if it's because that piece was already generated |
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paramat |
hmmmm, i did, tundra |
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hmmmm |
that's a relief |
| 02:36 |
hmmmm |
when i start flying over terrain and i see an inconsistent piece ending on a chunk border... i start to panic |
| 02:37 |
paramat |
game#810 28 Jan |
| 02:37 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/810 -- Default/mapgen: Add gravel beach in Tundra by paramat |
| 02:39 |
paramat |
mgv7 cliffs are slightly less steep too, in case you notice that |
| 02:42 |
paramat |
what's weird is how my fix for floating dungeon slices has only just gone into stable, that PR feels like years ago |
| 02:46 |
paramat |
biomes will be improved again soon #1022 changes of biome with altitude |
| 02:46 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1022 -- DFSG (and similar) compliance |
| 02:46 |
paramat |
oops |
| 02:46 |
paramat |
game#1022 |
| 02:46 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1022 -- Default/mapgen: Add upper limits to forest biomes and trees by paramat |
| 02:57 |
hmmmm |
anybody else want to do a review on my biomegen branch? |
| 02:57 |
hmmmm |
https://github.com/kwolekr/minetest/commits/biomegen |
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paramat |
yes, i'll look at it again |
| 02:59 |
hmmmm |
well no offense but i want multiple people looking at it |
| 03:00 |
paramat |
yeah indeed |
| 03:00 |
hmmmm |
i want to make sure that it works correctly |
| 03:00 |
hmmmm |
Because we believe anything which does not work correctly should be DESTROYED. |
| 03:02 |
paramat |
i'll review the stuff i understand, so we do need other reviewers |
| 03:30 |
Zeno` |
hmmmm |
| 03:30 |
Zeno` |
https://github.com/kwolekr/minetest/commit/937ac688f659f6a414b3d002427613f7fce8902b#diff-e876a0a129495f2b2dd1182861fa6ea3R136 |
| 03:31 |
Zeno` |
the order was defined before your change |
| 03:31 |
hmmmm |
??? |
| 03:32 |
Zeno` |
that's an initialiser list to a constructor so the order is defined as "in that they appear" (unlike a function call) |
| 03:33 |
hmmmm |
the values are assigned in the initializer list, this is evaluating a function call's arguments |
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hmmmm |
try it yourself if you don't believe me that the order is ill-defined |
| 03:33 |
Zeno` |
well it's better safe than sorry anyway, even if I'm wrong |
| 03:33 |
hmmmm |
no I actually tested this exact scenario in a minimal sample case |
| 03:34 |
hmmmm |
clang and gcc are indeed different |
| 03:34 |
Zeno` |
weird |
| 03:34 |
hmmmm |
what C++ guarantees is that all arguments will have been evaluated by the time the function/constructor/whatever executes |
| 03:34 |
Zeno` |
ah, hang on nevermind |
| 03:34 |
Zeno` |
the part I am reading is referring to something different. You're right |
| 03:35 |
hmmmm |
so the arguments are evaluated, and then the controls transfers to the constructor initializer list head |
| 03:35 |
hmmmm |
i'm glad somebody is actually looking at this crap :D |
| 03:39 |
Zeno` |
I wish you'd make a PR so I could look at all the changes squashed :p |
| 03:40 |
Zeno` |
e.g. https://github.com/kwolekr/minetest/commit/f03fba9ae28c7a0be7532296b2fd1f8720a672ed#diff-e876a0a129495f2b2dd1182861fa6ea3R167 |
| 03:40 |
Zeno` |
I have to then look at an earlier commit to see if it wasn't missed :P |
| 03:40 |
hmmmm |
yeah |
| 03:40 |
Zeno` |
can you PR to my repo? |
| 03:41 |
hmmmm |
I'll make a PR for it for viewing, but I'd rather not squash the commits since I try to adhere to the one-change-per-commit principle |
| 03:41 |
Zeno` |
of course |
| 03:41 |
hmmmm |
why make a PR to your repo exactly? |
| 03:41 |
hmmmm |
what difference does it make |
| 03:41 |
Zeno` |
nothing :) |
| 03:44 |
hmmmm |
ok did it, $4135 |
| 03:44 |
hmmmm |
#4135 |
| 03:44 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4135 -- Biomegen by kwolekr |
| 03:45 |
paramat |
will test |
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Zeno` |
Code Boneyard hehe |
| 03:57 |
Zeno` |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/4135/files#diff-5a3527c6dddd0430ce6d04404ea096baR120 |
| 03:57 |
Zeno` |
why the funny spacing? |
| 04:02 |
paramat |
weird |
| 04:03 |
paramat |
could be vertically aligned but on single lines? |
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paramat |
i've looked through all commits, as far as i understand it, it looks good, but need to test thoroughly |
| 04:12 |
hmmmm |
Zeno`, I couldn't find a way to make it look neat |
| 04:12 |
hmmmm |
append &ts=4 to that link and you'll see it line up |
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paramat |
i see, tab size |
| 05:15 |
Zeno` |
dat's why I prefer tabs for indent and spaces for alignment |
| 05:16 |
Zeno` |
but *shrug* |
| 05:37 |
Zeno` |
looks good to me, hmmmm |
| 05:38 |
Zeno` |
there is one instance of comparing a float to a double but it's always been there and I don't want to mention it |
| 05:38 |
hmmmm |
oh |
| 05:38 |
hmmmm |
i never pushed that commit |
| 05:39 |
Zeno` |
which commit? |
| 05:40 |
hmmmm |
https://github.com/kwolekr/minetest/commit/27a57ca16191c61e7aff7236566e1c4de08e6357 |
| 05:41 |
Zeno` |
and one more here https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/4135/files#diff-e876a0a129495f2b2dd1182861fa6ea3R258 |
| 05:41 |
Zeno` |
oops you captured it |
| 05:41 |
Zeno` |
may as well include that commit as well |
| 05:41 |
Zeno` |
since you've already done it :) |
| 05:46 |
Zeno` |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/labels/Merge%20for%20testing%20candidate |
| 05:47 |
Zeno` |
tested #4077 and I think when nore addresses any issues that might need addressing it should be merged soon so we can start widespread testing |
| 05:47 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4077 -- Colored chat and other strings by Ekdohibs |
| 05:47 |
Zeno` |
Also tested 4124 but not as thorougly |
| 05:48 |
Zeno` |
and #4059 has two approvals, is simple and I think it's baked and ready |
| 05:48 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4059 -- Add on_punchnode callback to falling.lua by Wayward1 |
| 05:48 |
Zeno` |
err |
| 05:49 |
Zeno` |
hmm... or does it need documentation? |
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hmmmm |
what is "merge for testing"? |
| 06:22 |
Zeno` |
kind of like it should be merged ASAP so it can be tested by a lot of people I think |
| 06:22 |
hmmmm |
i don't like that |
| 06:23 |
Zeno` |
why not |
| 06:23 |
hmmmm |
the point of testing is to make sure it can be merged |
| 06:23 |
Zeno` |
yeah... |
| 06:24 |
Zeno` |
but there are few devs and lots of people who are not devs (who can make testing more efficient) |
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thePalindrome |
Yeah, it's a bit of a weird situation |
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nrzkt |
hmmmm: will fix based on your comments |
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est31 |
nrzkt, my mistake, your pr does not need change https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/4124#discussion_r63474027 |
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nrzkt |
no problem est31 |
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nrzkt |
i'm thinking about a dynamic stat systems for player. I think it could be good to have HUD using local stats in the dynstat systems on client without sending an hud update to client on each stat modification, just updating the stat value |
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Wayward_One |
Zeno`, what kind of documentation did you have in mind? |
| 12:06 |
Zeno` |
Wayward_One, should it be documented in the script API docs? I dunno, I was only quickly looking |
| 12:07 |
nore |
nrzkt: good idea |
| 12:10 |
Zeno` |
anyway apart from the potential need for documentation I'm happy for it to be merged |
| 12:11 |
Wayward_One |
Zeno`, I just looked, I don't see anywhere it would need to be documented |
| 12:11 |
Wayward_One |
You do mean the lua_api.txt, right? |
| 12:11 |
Zeno` |
what's the PR again? |
| 12:12 |
Zeno` |
The # I mean |
| 12:12 |
Wayward_One |
#4059 |
| 12:12 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4059 -- Add on_punchnode callback to falling.lua by Wayward1 |
| 12:13 |
Zeno` |
oh yeah |
| 12:13 |
Zeno` |
*shrug* merge |
| 12:13 |
Zeno` |
nore, can you look at that as well please? |
| 12:14 |
nore |
Zeno`: looking |
| 12:15 |
nore |
:+1: |
| 12:15 |
Zeno` |
ok will merge |
| 12:16 |
Zeno` |
done |
| 12:27 |
Zeno` |
looks like 0.4.15 is almost ready to release! |
| 12:28 |
nrzkt |
Zeno`: hi can you look at my pr for database exception please :) |
| 12:28 |
nrzkt |
nore: if i get time i will write a draft for this |
| 12:28 |
nrzkt |
nore, Zeno`: why nore remove the env_meta file and add to to each DB backend ? It's more stable than a file which could be corrupted on crash |
| 12:29 |
nrzkt |
i have this method on my server and it's far better :) |
| 12:29 |
nrzkt |
i can also write a draft |
| 12:29 |
Zeno` |
I'm not the best person to ask about reviewing exception related PRs (I hate exceptions) |
| 12:29 |
nore |
nrzkt: I agree too |
| 12:29 |
nrzkt |
Zeno`: i also hate it, but here it's for having a better naming exception |
| 12:30 |
nrzkt |
nore: cool :) when my postgresql backend PR will be merge i will prepare it :) |
| 12:30 |
Zeno` |
from what I can see it looks good; it's a pretty small change |
| 12:30 |
nrzkt |
nore, Zeno`: please look at #4136 please :) |
| 12:30 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4136 -- Implement DatabaseException for databases by nerzhul |
| 12:30 |
nrzkt |
okay Zeno`then i can merge ? |
| 12:30 |
Zeno` |
you don't need to ask me :) est31 has already approved |
| 12:31 |
Zeno` |
but I can't see why not |
| 12:31 |
nrzkt |
yes, but three is better than two :p |
| 12:31 |
nore |
nrzkt: looking |
| 12:31 |
Zeno` |
it's just adding another level of detail |
| 12:31 |
nore |
Looks good |
| 12:32 |
nrzkt |
Zeno`: yes :) |
| 12:32 |
Zeno` |
as in more detail if something goes wrong, so yeah |
| 12:32 |
nrzkt |
push it then |
| 12:32 |
Zeno` |
yep |
| 12:32 |
nore |
However, there was nothing to change in leveldb? |
| 12:32 |
nrzkt |
i need to to rebase my postgresql thing |
| 12:32 |
Zeno` |
after answering nore's question :) |
| 12:33 |
nrzkt |
yes i forgot it |
| 12:33 |
nrzkt |
#define ENSURE_STATUS_OK(s) \ |
| 12:33 |
nrzkt |
only this |
| 12:33 |
nrzkt |
i'm changing it and pushing, okay ? |
| 12:33 |
Zeno` |
nah hang on |
| 12:34 |
Zeno` |
something needs updating for leveldb? |
| 12:34 |
nrzkt |
Zeno`: that's pushed on my branch |
| 12:34 |
nrzkt |
just the exception name |
| 12:34 |
nrzkt |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/4136/files |
| 12:34 |
nrzkt |
There is not more FileNotGoodException in leveldb |
| 12:34 |
Zeno` |
and it's not in the PR because... ? |
| 12:35 |
nrzkt |
i forget it |
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nrzkt |
and now it's in the pr because you remember me :p |
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nore |
Ok, good :) |
| 12:35 |
nicoalta01 |
hey Italian Users |
| 12:35 |
nicoalta01 |
italian channel is open! |
| 12:35 |
nrzkt |
Zeno`: is this okay for you or did you want me to change anything more ? |
| 12:36 |
nrzkt |
nicoalta01: carramba |
| 12:36 |
nicoalta01 |
##minetest-it |
| 12:36 |
PilzAdam |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/8b940c005fd13db4e611ec49bc44881048b42cf7 <- this has a bad commit message |
| 12:36 |
PilzAdam |
should be more like "Update falling nodes in on_punchnode, too" |
| 12:38 |
Zeno` |
Why didn't you say so then? |
| 12:39 |
nrzkt |
nore: can i merge ? :) |
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nore |
nrzkt: looking again |
| 12:40 |
nore |
Assuming there is no other forgotten exception, then yes |
| 12:41 |
nrzkt |
okay, i merge it and rebase my pgsql pr |
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PilzAdam |
Zeno`, sorry, didn't see it earlier :-/ |
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Fixer |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3667 will someone ever decide on "fall with shift cheat", it is feature or bug? |
| 13:03 |
sfan5 |
bug definitely |
| 13:05 |
nrzkt |
sfan5: agreed |
| 13:06 |
twoelk |
I would agree that is a bug while the sneak-ladder is a feature and can be described as climbing with hands and feet - although if the player were a ninja ... |
| 13:10 |
Fixer |
sneak-ladder cheat is also caused by this |
| 13:10 |
Fixer |
if you fix first bug, sneak-ladder will not work anymore |
| 13:10 |
Fixer |
i think |
| 13:13 |
twoelk |
I thought they could be devided as of wuzzy's mod |
| 13:14 |
twoelk |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14619&p=217554#p217554 |
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Wayward_One |
Actually, this bug only surfaced recently, while the sneak ladder has always worked, at least in my experience. I remember countless frantic button-mashing attempts to stop a deadly fall just last year, but holding shift never reduced damage on a full block until recently, at least for me |
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Fixer |
proposal, gravity api, for this: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=7887 |
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xunto |
Always wanted to have ability to make space simulator using minetest) |
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EvergreenTree |
Now that the rush to release 0.4.14 is over, can someone take a look at #4127 ? |
| 18:49 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4127 -- Avoid calling DiePlayer more than once by 4Evergreen4 |
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Fixer |
paramat: ohi, I've discovered your "Universal geometry realm [0.4.4]" and it is amazing |
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paramat |
i just saw your screenshots, i feel like updating it now, i've neglected my mods too long |
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Fixer |
paramat: i have a suggestion |
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paramat |
chat in minetest channel? |
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betterthanyou710 |
where can someone on debian download 4.14? |
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EvergreenTree |
betterthanyou710: There are no debian packages for 0.4.14 yet afaik, but you can compile it yourself |
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betterthanyou710 |
k |
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betterthanyou710 |
I'll probably do it at a time when i'm not lazy |
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paramat |
sfan5 ShadowNinja please could you add your opinions to game#1093 ? also game#1094 ? < nore |
| 19:55 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1093 -- Default: New mese block texture by paramat |
| 19:55 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1094 -- Default: Remove unnecessary infotexts for chests and signs by paramat |
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sfan5 |
do two approvals and two disapprovals make zero approvals? |
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nore |
paramat: approving if you update the license |
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nore |
(original author is Thomas--S) |
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sfan5 |
paramat: game-1094 is fine |
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paramat |
yes i will update |
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nore |
1094 is good |
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paramat |
ok |
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paramat |
i don't think disapprovals subtract but we should still consider the complaints |
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paramat |
so i'm hesitating with 1093 |
| 20:00 |
paramat |
1094 is +3 so i'll merge that |
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sfan5 |
paramat: can you look at game#1096 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1096 -- Change Drinking Glass Texture by Thomas--S |
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paramat |
yes |
| 20:03 |
paramat |
related to infotext is #4134 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4134 -- Item entities: Only show description in debug mode by paramat |
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paramat |
oh that one has problems it seems, nevermind |
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paramat |
+1 game 1096 |
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paramat |
hmm ok i might have to submit a new mese texture |
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paramat |
nore shall we close game#1082 now? |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1082 -- Mese texture by Ekdohibs |
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nore |
paramat: yep |
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nore |
1093 replaces it |
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paramat |
will do |
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EvergreenTree |
Is there anything should I do on #4127 ? |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4127 -- Avoid calling DiePlayer more than once by 4Evergreen4 |
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EvergreenTree |
Should I create a ModifyPlayerHP method as hmmmm suggested? |
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est31 |
!tell EvergreenTree yes ModifyPlayerHP sounds the best choice here |
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ShadowBot |
est31: O.K. |
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