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| 00:22 |
paramat |
now merging game 823 875 890 |
| 00:22 |
ssieb |
paramat: I see some weird shadow issues. http://sieb.net/mt-shadow1.png http://sieb.net/mt-shadow2.png Any idea if it's mapgen, mods, some combination, or what? mapgen v7 (mg_flags = trees, caves, dungeons, noflat, light) with biomes mod |
| 00:24 |
paramat |
known issue. moretrees mod causes shadows when used with with mgv7, use the mod option to place trees as saplings instead |
| 00:26 |
ssieb |
what causes the shadows? |
| 00:26 |
paramat |
it's an engine issue but the way moretrees works triggers the bug |
| 00:26 |
ssieb |
is there an issue filed? |
| 00:26 |
paramat |
it happens when l-system trees re generated to sson after mapgen, when the mapchunk above has not yet been generated |
| 00:27 |
paramat |
(are) |
| 00:27 |
paramat |
(too soon) |
| 00:28 |
paramat |
yes issues are filed |
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ssieb |
ok. I had heard about moretrees causing shadows, but it wasn't clear that that was the case here. |
| 00:30 |
ssieb |
But why does it happen with v7 and not v6? |
| 00:31 |
paramat |
all mapgens except mgv6 use 1 up 1 down overgeneration, this seems to cause the bug |
| 00:32 |
celeron55 |
here is a menu design that i am working on: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/commits/menustuff |
| 00:32 |
paramat |
something to do with the lightng call being different |
| 00:32 |
celeron55 |
the home screen looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/Q6DWM96.png |
| 00:35 |
celeron55 |
(singleplayer and settings work, other things don't) |
| 00:44 |
celeron55 |
it's kind of slightly impressive what the formspec system is capable of these days without touching any C++ |
| 00:46 |
paramat |
merge complete |
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| 00:46 |
paramat |
good to see work on menu |
| 00:55 |
ssieb |
paramat: even with the sapling option, they still generate big square shadows, but at least it's not as dark |
| 00:56 |
paramat |
ok, the engine's 'update lighting' does need work and is probably the cause |
| 00:57 |
paramat |
shadows when saplings grow are a known bug too. is there a shadow for every tree or less? |
| 00:59 |
est31 |
and now, I do work on my prs |
| 00:59 |
est31 |
finally get them ready for review |
| 01:03 |
ssieb |
paramat: Looks like it. Every moretrees tree generates a big square, but not the default trees. http://sieb.net/mt-shadow3.png |
| 01:04 |
paramat |
interesting, a different kind of bug =/ |
| 01:04 |
paramat |
the l-system code might need work too |
| 01:05 |
ssieb |
There are still shadows for the leaves as well. |
| 01:09 |
ssieb |
paramat: It looks like the shadow problem only affects water. There's no obvious shadow on the sand areas. |
| 01:10 |
paramat |
ok |
| 01:10 |
ssieb |
And now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure it was the same when I wasn't using the saplings. |
| 01:11 |
* ssieb |
will test that |
| 01:13 |
ssieb |
No, I was wrong. Without the sapling setting, the shadows are really dark and cover the ground as well. |
| 01:24 |
ssieb |
And it still does it sometimes when the saplings grow... :-( |
| 01:25 |
ssieb |
Maybe I'll just have to go back to v6 mapgen. |
| 01:31 |
paramat |
nooo! |
| 01:31 |
ssieb |
More weird. At one spot I chopped a piece out a tree and the big shadow went back to just the lighter square. But it didn't work on another tree nearby... |
| 01:32 |
paramat |
yes digging updates lighting, but sometimes only partially fixes the shadow |
| 01:33 |
paramat |
i intend to attempt a fix for these but it will be tough |
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| 04:22 |
ShadowNinja |
Merging #1952. |
| 04:22 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1952 -- Use the console instead of a dedicated window when pressing chat/command keys by ShadowNinja |
| 04:24 |
ShadowNinja |
I'll leave it as 5 seperate commits unless someone has an issue with that. |
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| 04:53 |
ShadowNinja |
#3810 |
| 04:53 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3810 -- Try to fix jumping at node edge again by ShadowNinja |
| 04:53 |
ShadowNinja |
^ Works for me, but there are all sorts of edge cases to check with this code. |
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| 05:01 |
est31 |
anybody want to review https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/3677 |
| 05:02 |
est31 |
ShadowNinja, #3788 can perhaps be fixed by removing getupvalue |
| 05:02 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3788 -- Bypassable security using upvalues |
| 05:02 |
est31 |
but what about the other functions |
| 05:02 |
est31 |
kaeza says they should be removed too |
| 05:03 |
* ShadowNinja |
'd : https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3788#issuecomment-191585573 |
| 05:03 |
est31 |
its a reply on it :) |
| 05:03 |
ShadowNinja |
est31: The debug library is dangerous, but some parts are safe and necessary, eg, the LuaC needs sethook. |
| 05:05 |
est31 |
probably sethook is safe |
| 05:08 |
ShadowNinja |
Oh, I have the getupvalue fix ready to push. Look O.K.? |
| 05:09 |
est31 |
my argument remains: what about the other debug methods |
| 05:09 |
est31 |
which are required, and why |
| 05:09 |
ShadowNinja |
est31: Well, I checked them and they all *seemed* safe. |
| 05:11 |
ShadowNinja |
The issue is that all of the "Lua sandboxing" docs only cover sandboxing Lua from Lua, and a *lot* more things are safe if you do it from C. Also, they don't have ReqIE to consider. |
| 05:11 |
est31 |
ReqIE? |
| 05:12 |
ShadowNinja |
req_insec_env |
| 05:12 |
est31 |
ah |
| 05:13 |
est31 |
okay, well then push the fix for the issue removing that single function, and then we can look later whether there is something insecure remaining |
| 05:13 |
est31 |
I'm going to bed now |
| 05:14 |
est31 |
bye |
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exio4 |
I don't deserve my name in the commit log for that :P |
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Hunterz |
hi exio thanks for use console instead of dedicated window for chat! |
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| 17:59 |
paramat |
sfan5 any comments on the updated jungletree top? game#880 . please read first post for explanation. might make the dark brown less dark for PilzAdam |
| 17:59 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/880 -- Default: New jungletree_top texture by paramat |
| 18:12 |
VanessaE |
paramat: let's just fix the misaligned edge of the top and otherwise leave well-enough alone. |
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| 18:16 |
paramat |
nope the current texture is ugly |
| 18:16 |
VanessaE |
it's a tree, not the Mona Lisa :P |
| 18:17 |
paramat |
also for PilzAdam i might make the ring a little darker |
| 18:18 |
rubenwardy |
I think the problem is that our textures have no fixed palette, which is what pixel art should have to look good |
| 18:18 |
VanessaE |
his argument parallels mine - those rings are too "hard", bright. |
| 18:19 |
paramat |
yes it's too bright |
| 18:19 |
Obani |
paramat, the ring is an error IMO |
| 18:19 |
Obani |
And I don't understand why do you do it |
| 18:20 |
Obani |
a real tree is circular |
| 18:20 |
VanessaE |
...ish. |
| 18:20 |
Obani |
Don't play with words please |
| 18:20 |
Obani |
:p |
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| 18:21 |
Obani |
paramat, do you get what I say ? |
| 18:21 |
paramat |
read the first post for why. MT trees are mostly square |
| 18:22 |
Obani |
Yes |
| 18:22 |
Obani |
well |
| 18:22 |
Obani |
We're in a world of voxels |
| 18:22 |
Obani |
Isn't it normal ? |
| 18:23 |
Obani |
In real life it's circular |
| 18:23 |
Obani |
But here we're in a worl of voxels ! |
| 18:23 |
Obani |
what you do here would like if it was a square in real life |
| 18:24 |
Obani |
(the ring) |
| 18:24 |
Obani |
s/wouls/is |
| 18:24 |
paramat |
mine is a square truncated by the 4 lianas at the corners, read |
| 18:25 |
Obani |
I'm talking about the tree top |
| 18:26 |
paramat |
me too |
| 18:26 |
paramat |
*=/ |
| 18:27 |
Obani |
still |
| 18:27 |
Obani |
it doesn't work |
| 18:27 |
Obani |
And I don't see any lianas on this |
| 18:27 |
Obani |
Except those one pixel things over straight |
| 18:28 |
Obani |
Also |
| 18:29 |
Obani |
I don't understand why do you take so much time talking about this amazingly important feature |
| 18:29 |
Obani |
As it just needs to be good looking, coherent, and look a little bit like a tree |
| 18:30 |
Obani |
Some good pixel artist could make it within 4 hours |
| 18:30 |
Obani |
Here it's not some shit with lianas, it's just lava with wood colors |
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* paramat |
fetches popcorn |
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hcorion |
Hiya folks! I'm interested in helping to develop minetest (programming). Where might I get started? I understand C++ fairly well. |
| 18:58 |
paramat |
hi |
| 18:58 |
paramat |
nore sfan5 i've added 2 PR/issue labels to MTGame 'one approval' 'two approvals' |
| 18:58 |
Krock |
Check out the GitHub repository ;) |
| 18:58 |
sfan5 |
ok |
| 18:59 |
paramat |
i started by reading code of a part i was most interested in (mapgen) |
| 18:59 |
paramat |
then experimenting within my own local branches |
| 19:00 |
paramat |
make sure to join github and follow dev work at the repo |
| 19:01 |
paramat |
and monitoring this channel is useful |
| 19:01 |
Obani |
hcorion, Where would you like to begin ? |
| 19:02 |
hcorion |
Probably android, but I would like to get a feel for the minetest codebase first |
| 19:11 |
Calinou |
hcorion, read our developer wiki: http://dev.minetest.net/ |
| 19:11 |
Calinou |
it has information about creating mods, and working on the engine |
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paramat |
nore sfan5 what are your opinions on game#312 ? it has 2 -1s already |
| 19:51 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/312 -- Faster movement speeds for less boring gameplay by Calinou |
| 19:58 |
ssieb |
paramat: How can I try the valleys mapgen? Minetest says it's not registered. Am I using the wrong name or is it disabled? |
| 19:59 |
paramat |
you have 0.4.13dev? |
| 20:00 |
ssieb |
yes |
| 20:00 |
paramat |
!tell ShadowNinja https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/891#issuecomment-191936730 |
| 20:00 |
ShadowBot |
paramat: O.K. |
| 20:00 |
paramat |
mgvalleys is in the mapgen selector but you might need to scroll down |
| 20:01 |
ssieb |
ok, I had the name wrong |
| 20:01 |
paramat |
ok |
| 20:01 |
ssieb |
I'm running a local server, so I'm editing the config file there |
| 20:02 |
ssieb |
oops, it looks like I didn't put the new version on the server :-( |
| 20:03 |
paramat |
actually it is 'mg_name = valleys' |
| 20:04 |
ssieb |
ok |
| 20:04 |
paramat |
this is not documented in .conf, oops |
| 20:04 |
paramat |
will fix |
| 20:05 |
ssieb |
No errors this time about unregistered mapgen. :-) Have to go out for a bit, will check it out later. |
| 20:08 |
sfan5 |
paramat: commented -1 on 312 |
| 20:08 |
nore |
paramat: I agree with closing too |
| 20:08 |
paramat |
ok will do |
| 20:09 |
nore |
paramat: about "one approval" / "two approvals": I added those labels to a few issues this morning, also I filled the 0.4.14 milestone a bit |
| 20:09 |
paramat |
ok |
| 20:10 |
paramat |
sfan5 any opinion on game#880 ? i will reduce ring brightness a little |
| 20:10 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/880 -- Default: New jungletree_top texture by paramat |
| 20:12 |
paramat |
(or, i might reduce the brightness) |
| 20:13 |
hcorion |
Hi everybody, I'm back. I'm having trouble building Minetest via CMake and Visual Studio 2015 64-bit. I've got all the dependencies installed from here: http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest#Cross-compilation But I'm still getting compile errors about needing sqlite3, which is not even mentioned in the compiling page |
| 20:14 |
paramat |
anyway it will be edited slightly soon |
| 20:15 |
paramat |
i follow the compiling instructions here in the readme https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/891#issuecomment-191936730 |
| 20:15 |
paramat |
that might be more up to date |
| 20:15 |
paramat |
oh wrong link |
| 20:15 |
paramat |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest |
| 20:18 |
hcorion |
AFAIK, it still doesn't mention sqlite3 |
| 20:18 |
paramat |
libsqlite3-dev? |
| 20:18 |
hcorion |
Sorry, windows |
| 20:18 |
paramat |
ah |
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hcorion |
Thought you would clue in when I mentioned Visual Studio |
| 20:19 |
paramat |
sorry |
| 20:19 |
hcorion |
np |
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paramat |
maybe ask in #minetest channel too? as it's quiet here |
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Calinou |
since you are closing my pull request, are we getting sprinting? :/ |
| 20:34 |
paramat |
absolutely not ;) |
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kaeza |
that could be useful |
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nore |
yep, sprinting is definitely needed |
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nore |
it would be good to have something gameplay-wise that would make it interesting |
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nore |
(hunger?) |
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sofar |
I was thinking of putting it in my stamina mod |
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nore |
sofar: yeah, that's what I was thinking |
| 21:32 |
nore |
but that means engine change (player meta) too :/ |
| 21:33 |
nore |
that should be added sooner or later anyway |
| 21:33 |
paramat |
celeron55 i like this one http://i.imgur.com/SWlXmUj.png |
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celeron55 |
did you watch 55 minutes of that? |
| 21:34 |
paramat |
lol i skipped through |
| 21:34 |
paramat |
saw it by chance |
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celeron55 |
i wonder where that is from |
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celeron55 |
there's literally no way to tell |
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Fixer |
55 minutes? |
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paramat |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRubE_ZrSEw |
| 21:37 |
Calinou |
lol this is great |
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Fixer |
2 hours? |
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Calinou |
first image is from More Blocks =) |
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