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Mimilus |
plip |
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Mimilus |
what is the best ? Making all texture one by one, or use ^ for concatening textures ? the first way requires a lot of files but is it better for the framrate ? |
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Mimilus |
framerate* |
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celeron55 |
"Just to let you know the fact that for the latest Ubuntu, 14.04, in the |
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celeron55 |
stable PPA there's only the 0.4.7 version of Minetest, while all the |
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celeron55 |
other ubuntu relases, which are older than 14.04, have the 0.4.9." |
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celeron55 |
(an email) |
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RealBadAngel |
hi |
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RealBadAngel |
celeron55, here? |
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RealBadAngel |
anway, command line switches to set log level are obsolete already thx to this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L978 |
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RealBadAngel |
nvm, i was wrong ;) |
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crazyR__ |
does anyone know if this is the correct syntax foo.bar['test'] = 'bla' in lua |
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VanessaE |
wrong channel. use #minetest. |
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crazyR__ |
oh sorry, thought i did. lol thanks |
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VanessaE |
and only if 'test' needs to be a literal string for some reason. otherwise, do foo.bar.test = 'blah' |
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crazyR__ |
test would be a var, basically it would be dynamic |
| 13:26 |
VanessaE |
you can do that, sure |
| 13:26 |
VanessaE |
lose the quotes |
| 13:26 |
VanessaE |
I believe the syntax then is, foo.bar[variable] = 'blah' |
| 13:27 |
VanessaE |
been a while since I fiddled with dynamic variable names though |
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VanessaE |
*looks it up* |
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crazyR__ |
https://gist.github.com/crazyR14/3cf3c797bae1fd486e3e <-- thats the actual code :/ |
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VanessaE |
hm, I'm wrong |
| 13:29 |
VanessaE |
http://forums.coronalabs.com/topic/12175-dynamic-variable-names/ |
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VanessaE |
G*d I'm rusty. |
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crazyR__ |
lol, i assure you im much worst with lua, lol. all my work is trial and error lol. |
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crazyR__ |
i see where i went wrong :/ |
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crazyR__ |
noob mistake |
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Calinou |
max_hear_distance in minetest.sound_play() does not seem to have an effect |
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Calinou |
(the default also is small and unrealistic.) |
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PenguinDad |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1289 |
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PenguinDad |
^ Comments please |
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proller |
better to implement auto reconnect |
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sfan5 |
sometimes servers actually shut down and don't come back up |
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CraigyDavi |
I like it PenguinDad. Will it still work if the server crashes? |
| 16:39 |
PenguinDad |
CraigyDavi: it won't work if the server crashes |
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crazyR__ |
<proller> better to implement auto reconnect <-- that doesnt work so well on freeminer servers. it crashes the client on reload |
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CraigyDavi |
It's nice, but I'd like the feature so that when the server crashes the client freezes |
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proller |
because formspec crashes everywhere |
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proller |
and it was fixed |
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crazyR__ |
ahh thats good to hear. so what happens if the server doesnt come back up... do you have a time out at which point the client kicks t menu? |
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proller |
now only infinity reconnects |
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ShadowNinja |
After having a mod crash and reloading the world: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7441225/ |
| 18:26 |
ShadowNinja |
This bug has been around for a long time, and it seens to be related to particles. |
| 18:27 |
Calinou |
ShadowNinja, do you know a solution to the “wood†and “stone†groups being added to the Stairs+ nodes? |
| 18:27 |
Calinou |
this causes crafting to be too cheap |
| 18:27 |
Calinou |
you can make a chest using 1 wood :s |
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ShadowNinja |
Calinou: Yes, you can not copy those groups, you'll have to be selective though, as things like "cracky" have to be copied. |
| 18:28 |
Calinou |
is there a way to make it without repeating all definitions? |
| 18:28 |
ShadowNinja |
Also: -> #minetest |
| 18:28 |
Calinou |
yeah |
| 18:28 |
Calinou |
reply there (or in PM) |
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ShadowNinja |
sapier: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/d3ee617f37984b380ebe32cd37ef1cda66d96c48#commitcomment-6255105 |
| 19:19 |
ShadowNinja |
Last call for comments on #1258. |
| 19:19 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1258 -- Organize builtin into subdirectories and use "core" namespace internally by ShadowNinja |
| 19:33 |
proller |
again nothing changed, but all files touched 8( |
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Calinou |
subdirectories do help |
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Calinou |
good organization does help |
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ShadowNinja |
proller: git can't detect file renaming(/moving) on small files. Bigger files work fine though. |
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| 19:43 |
proller |
but not splitting file |
| 19:44 |
proller |
did you use git mv for moving ? |
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sapier |
well as celeron decided to switch to core I guess 1258 is fine ... btw thanks for a lot of useless work on fixing all mods |
| 19:45 |
ShadowNinja |
proller: Nope. |
| 19:45 |
proller |
very bad |
| 19:45 |
ShadowNinja |
sapier: Hmmm? minetest is still the official namespace. |
| 19:46 |
sapier |
ShadowNinja: links like that one are completely useless to me I never know what you're talking about |
| 19:46 |
sapier |
of course as official as krim isn't part of russia |
| 19:46 |
ShadowNinja |
sapier: What? |
| 19:47 |
sapier |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/d3ee617f37984b380ebe32cd37ef1cda66d96c48#commitcomment-6255105 <<< what do you want to tell me? |
| 19:47 |
ShadowNinja |
sapier: I have you a pull link, for a pull. |
| 19:47 |
ShadowNinja |
sapier: Oh, I meant that you should rename that variable. |
| 19:47 |
ShadowNinja |
As said in the discussion. |
| 19:47 |
sapier |
tjhat? |
| 19:48 |
ShadowNinja |
proller: Thanks for mentioning git mv, I'll look into it. |
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ShadowNinja |
proller: Also, congradulations, you've said your first helpfull thing in months. ;-) |
| 19:49 |
sapier |
that's not fair ShadowNinja proller often (accidentaly) says usefull things |
| 19:49 |
sapier |
too sarcastic? |
| 19:49 |
proller |
if yu move file - you must use mv - it saves history and not cause problems for changes in this files in other branches |
| 19:50 |
sapier |
doesn't git autodetect moved files too proller? |
| 19:50 |
proller |
never seen it |
| 19:53 |
ShadowNinja |
proller: Actually, it seems like `git mv` doesn't do anything special, it just mvs the file, rms the old version, and adds the new version. |
| 19:54 |
proller |
but git know about renaming |
| 19:55 |
ShadowNinja |
proller: Only by content comparison. If you change anything and it's a small file the detection fails. |
| 19:56 |
proller |
for example - freeminer.conf is renaed from minetest.conf and all current commits to minetest.conf automatically merges to freeminer.conf |
| 19:57 |
VanessaE |
and yes, git detects if you mv a file the usual way (I mean, without using `git mv`). |
| 19:57 |
ShadowNinja |
proller: *conf.example *. And thats a relatively large file. |
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ShadowNinja |
sapier: -> #minetest |
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sapier |
great shadow you remove one serialization variant and add another one ... that's gonna be a cleanup of ... well nothing ;-P |
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ShadowNinja |
sapier: Hmmm? |
| 20:05 |
proller |
again... |
| 20:05 |
ShadowNinja |
I added a JSON writing API, and removed marshal. But that was a while ago. And there were good reasons for those. |
| 20:06 |
proller |
+1 for removed marshal |
| 20:06 |
proller |
also +1 for use json as default and recommended save method |
| 20:07 |
proller |
now time for skip some lines from sapier about xml ;) |
| 20:07 |
ShadowNinja |
Nah, Lua tables are more powerfull than JSON. |
| 20:07 |
proller |
powerfull where? |
| 20:08 |
ShadowNinja |
proller: They support mixed hash and array keys. They even support table keys. |
| 20:09 |
proller |
where you need mixed keys? |
| 20:09 |
proller |
and its not readable by human |
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sapier |
json isn as human readable as egypt hyroglyphs too ;-P |
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proller |
visit doctor |
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sfan5 |
let's use msgpack |
| 20:23 |
sfan5 |
that is perfectly human-readable |
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proller |
for minetest.conf @ |
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sfan5 |
^ good idea |
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kaeza |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9276 |
| 20:39 |
proller |
already implemented in <censored> ;) |
| 20:44 |
proller |
most renames detected, but 9 conflicts, 4 of them deleted by them |
| 20:46 |
sapier |
kaeza: how does that mod cleanup data on mod uninstall? |
| 20:47 |
sapier |
and no that mod can't be added to minetest |
| 20:48 |
sapier |
it's lgpl v3 thus incompatible to minetest |
| 20:48 |
kaeza |
sapier, it's just an idea; having a centralized location for mods to store persistent per-player data would be useful |
| 20:48 |
kaeza |
and about your question, I have no idea ;) |
| 20:49 |
sapier |
I always have to think about windows registry, but sure there are reasons where it's usefull |
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BlockMen |
sapier, would you like to fix statbars? |
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sapier |
you're talking about the selection image? |
| 20:53 |
BlockMen |
no, thats another issue |
| 20:53 |
sapier |
which one? |
| 20:54 |
BlockMen |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/d3ee617f37984b380ebe32cd37ef1cda66d96c48#commitcomment-6254691 |
| 20:54 |
BlockMen |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/d3ee617f37984b380ebe32cd37ef1cda66d96c48#commitcomment-6254972 |
| 20:54 |
BlockMen |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/d3ee617f37984b380ebe32cd37ef1cda66d96c48#commitcomment-6258609 |
| 20:55 |
sapier |
well you know as good as me what's reason for it ... old client on new server |
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BlockMen |
so that flags dont work is also wanted? |
| 20:55 |
BlockMen |
and that healt bar is shown with damage disabled? |
| 20:56 |
sapier |
no that's not wanted I thought you tested it? |
| 20:56 |
BlockMen |
what? when should i have do? |
| 20:57 |
BlockMen |
u asked me om to do, i said i have to leave |
| 20:57 |
sapier |
well doesn't matter I'll fix i |
| 20:57 |
sapier |
t |
| 20:57 |
BlockMen |
next day it was merged |
| 20:57 |
BlockMen |
s/om/pm |
| 20:58 |
BlockMen |
and i think the problem with older servers should be solved aswell |
| 20:58 |
BlockMen |
what is with you n-1 compatibility? |
| 20:58 |
BlockMen |
*+r |
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sapier |
I'm trying to debug a connection issue with vazon right now can you find out what is broken? |
| 20:59 |
sapier |
It's a graphical glitch only but I already said I'm gonna find a way to fix it |
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spillz |
!tell celeron55 https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+recipe/minetest-c55-stable |
| 21:00 |
ShadowBot |
spillz: O.K. |
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sfan5 |
spillz: the builds should proabably include luajit |
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Calinou |
why is password erased when window is resized? |
| 21:19 |
sapier |
good question, I guess for some reason formspec is redrawn |
| 21:23 |
sapier |
ShadowNinja: you missed the header path comments on your move |
| 21:26 |
sapier |
and lua_api.txt too |
| 21:33 |
BlockMen |
i though it stays officially minetest for now? |
| 21:34 |
BlockMen |
so what you want change in lua_api.txt then? |
| 21:36 |
sapier |
because I still think cleaning up should be done ... and yes I know others may believe minetest still beeing official interface but it's crap for those of us doing both minetest and mod development... the only correct thing is core |
| 21:36 |
sapier |
unless you wanna get told by ShadowNinja that core is the only one to be used in minetest builtin ;-) |
| 21:37 |
sapier |
well see as I'm gonna refuse to rename everything in mainmenu cleanup |
| 21:40 |
sapier |
sorry guy but mainmenu cleanup is not about replacing formspecs if you want to do that discussion do it here or in forum not in a commit not beeing related to formspec basics at all |
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