| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:09 |
hmmmm |
vanessa, it wasn't totally regenerated? there was still some of your stuff there? too bad you didn't have a screenshot of exactly what it was |
| 00:09 |
VanessaE |
correct |
| 00:09 |
VanessaE |
sorry I didn't think to snap a screen of it |
| 00:09 |
VanessaE |
but I can describe it further if you want |
| 00:10 |
hmmmm |
wait, it was just one 16x16x16 block that was totally regenerated, and the rest of the mess was caused in the surrounding area |
| 00:10 |
hmmmm |
right? |
| 00:10 |
VanessaE |
mmmm... |
| 00:10 |
hmmmm |
yea? |
| 00:10 |
VanessaE |
you know that might account for it |
| 00:10 |
VanessaE |
but, |
| 00:11 |
VanessaE |
there's a house that stands some 30m tall.... which had dirt poured on top of it. But there's no way in hell for that dirt to have been there. |
| 00:11 |
hmmmm |
well this is a multi-block chunk based generator, so the 80x80x80 sized area was regenerated |
| 00:11 |
VanessaE |
(my brick mansion near the spawn) |
| 00:11 |
hmmmm |
starting from 0,0,0 to 80,80,80 |
| 00:11 |
VanessaE |
if it happens again I'll take a screenshot |
| 00:12 |
hmmmm |
that one block that failed to load was initially emerged from disk as containing all CONTENT_IGNORE |
| 00:12 |
hmmmm |
so all of the nodes that it attempted to place there were |
| 00:14 |
VanessaE |
yeah but placing nodes on top of a building, way higher than they could ever have been? |
| 00:14 |
hmmmm |
but the rest of it was not content_ignore, so it didn't place any new terrain or anything. what it did instead was generate caves right in the middle of your already-generated areas, perhaps some trees, and then on_generate was called again, placing the ores |
| 00:14 |
VanessaE |
(as in, the land where the building stands was never that high) |
| 00:16 |
VanessaE |
that's about what it looked like to me as well, so I assumed it was a standard mapgen run in response to the alleged missing block |
| 00:16 |
VanessaE |
the question of course is why did it bug out in the first place.. |
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| 03:28 |
ShadowNinja |
hmmmm: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/525 |
| 03:47 |
hmmmm |
great |
| 03:47 |
hmmmm |
i'll put that in next |
| 03:47 |
VanessaE |
ew. |
| 03:47 |
hmmmm |
yuck |
| 03:47 |
VanessaE |
using \( to escape [ just feels...dirty. |
| 03:48 |
hmmmm |
it's a stopgap for until i rip out the current tokenization and put something better in |
| 03:48 |
VanessaE |
fair enough |
| 03:48 |
hmmmm |
well |
| 03:49 |
hmmmm |
sorta wonder if i should even bother doing it later. i might do it all at once |
| 03:49 |
hmmmm |
i mean what i actually need to do is skip to the next [ until the previous char isn't \\ |
| 03:50 |
hmmmm |
and same with ] |
| 03:51 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: agreed, just an alternative for ow |
| 03:51 |
ShadowNinja |
*now |
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| 04:38 |
hmmmm |
woah getting sapier's stuff done is proving to be a real challenge |
| 04:38 |
hmmmm |
when i cherry picked from his branch it screwed up l_span_tree() |
| 04:39 |
hmmmm |
now i'm scared that it might've messed up other code randomly that i won't be able to catch as easily |
| 04:39 |
hmmmm |
gulp |
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| 05:12 |
VanessaE |
btw, that issue with newly placed blocks occasionally replacing that which is already there only happens when the server is lagging. |
| 05:12 |
VanessaE |
the worse the lag, the more likely the place event will replace a node rather than add next to/on top of it |
| 05:16 |
hmmmm |
interesting.. hey vanessa, are you not supposed to be able to mine cacti with a stone pick? |
| 05:17 |
VanessaE |
not as far as I know |
| 05:17 |
VanessaE |
been a while since I last tried |
| 05:17 |
hmmmm |
wait you should be able to or shouldn't |
| 05:17 |
VanessaE |
but I *think* you're supposed to only cut them down with an axe or sword? (of course a mese pick cuts anything) |
| 05:18 |
hmmmm |
can't take anything for granted after i saw how badly the merge went |
| 05:20 |
VanessaE |
understood |
| 05:23 |
VanessaE |
ugh, mapgen lag is killing me today (yes, new terrain, so says the verbose log) |
| 05:38 |
hmmmm |
wonder why |
| 05:38 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 05:46 |
hmmmm |
whaddya guys think https://github.com/kwolekr/minetest/commits/master |
| 05:47 |
VanessaE |
holy smokes |
| 05:47 |
VanessaE |
tl;dr |
| 05:48 |
hmmmm |
this was messier than it should've been. |
| 05:48 |
VanessaE |
care to squash them? |
| 05:48 |
VanessaE |
might be easier to read anyway |
| 05:48 |
hmmmm |
it's only three |
| 05:48 |
hmmmm |
besides if i squash them, wouldn't sapier's authorship be dropped? |
| 05:48 |
VanessaE |
three really LONG commits :-) |
| 05:48 |
VanessaE |
actually I dunno if it would or not |
| 05:49 |
VanessaE |
git commit --author="Original Author <email server>" |
| 05:49 |
VanessaE |
after the squash |
| 05:49 |
VanessaE |
if I read it right |
| 05:49 |
VanessaE |
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3305218/how-to-merge-branch-and-retain-the-authorship |
| 05:50 |
hmmmm |
ah author switch |
| 05:51 |
VanessaE |
fear my google-fu ;-) |
| 05:52 |
hmmmm |
yeah a lot less happened today than i wanted |
| 05:52 |
VanessaE |
eh, well, you only have two hands and just so much time to get shit done. |
| 06:01 |
hmmmm |
mm https://github.com/kwolekr/minetest/commit/bdbdeab0053d9ebbaffea17effeba777b710d390 |
| 06:01 |
hmmmm |
crazy |
| 06:03 |
VanessaE |
is it just me, or are you adding a metric assload of new code here? |
| 06:04 |
hmmmm |
eh no |
| 06:04 |
hmmmm |
that's just you |
| 06:04 |
VanessaE |
:P |
| 06:04 |
hmmmm |
there's a little bit of additional code added like license comments and include directives, but it's not bad when you consider the improvement of it not being all in one file |
| 06:05 |
VanessaE |
right |
| 06:05 |
VanessaE |
I'm just looking at this one commit, that's what was throwing me off |
| 06:05 |
hmmmm |
did you miss the "823 additions, 6894 deletions not shown " part? |
| 06:05 |
VanessaE |
in fact, I did |
| 06:05 |
VanessaE |
ok, 'nuff said |
| 06:06 |
hmmmm |
PHEW |
| 06:06 |
VanessaE |
blew right past that file while skimming through |
| 06:07 |
hmmmm |
why do large files like this crop up in the first place? why don't the people writing them stop and say "hmm, it takes a ridiculous amount of time to scroll through this file, perhaps it's a good idea to split some related things into a separate file" |
| 06:08 |
VanessaE |
could be many things; surely some laziness in there, but I think a lot just has to do with the expected expenditure of time vs. perceived benefit |
| 06:08 |
hmmmm |
takes no time at all if you do it while you're coding it up and not all at once |
| 06:08 |
VanessaE |
you know, an extension of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" |
| 06:08 |
VanessaE |
true truew |
| 06:09 |
hmmmm |
the facedir rotation stuff |
| 06:09 |
hmmmm |
let's do that now |
| 06:09 |
VanessaE |
on the other hand, I've had people bitch at me for following that ideal too closely - for splitting files up when they think they shouldn't be yet |
| 06:09 |
VanessaE |
wait, I think RBA is still fighting that out |
| 06:09 |
hmmmm |
above 1500 LoC is when it gets uncomfortable |
| 06:10 |
VanessaE |
ugh |
| 06:10 |
VanessaE |
homedecor/crafts.lua ... 1758 lines. |
| 06:10 |
VanessaE |
what was that I was saying about reasons not to split up a file? :) |
| 06:12 |
hmmmm |
i dunno, but when it's 5000, or 6000, or 7500 like scriptapi, it closely resembles the thought patterns of the same kinds of people who don't cut their fingernails |
| 06:12 |
VanessaE |
in that particular instance, I never split the file up because all of the code therein seemed too closely related.. it feels somehow "wrong" to do so, but I can't really say why |
| 06:12 |
hmmmm |
it's just as gross too |
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| 14:38 |
PilzAdam |
How is the state of realeasing? |
| 14:55 |
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Topic for #minetest-dev is now Minetest core development and maintenance. Chit-chat goes to #minetest. Consider this instead of /msg celeron55. http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/ http://dev.minetest.net/ |
| 14:55 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: see git log |
| 14:55 |
PilzAdam |
shouldnt we create a tag for 0.4.5 in minetest and minetest_game? |
| 14:55 |
thexyz |
i think the only thing we left is to update links at minetest.net download page |
| 14:55 |
thexyz |
celeron55: ^ |
| 14:56 |
thexyz |
PilzAdam: we probably should |
| 14:56 |
* PilzAdam |
will do |
| 14:57 |
proller |
tag needed for freebsd port |
| 15:03 |
PilzAdam |
done |
| 15:05 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, also push to the stable_0.4 branch? |
| 15:07 |
thexyz |
guess so |
| 15:10 |
PilzAdam |
31 commits for minetest_game and 219 commits for the engine |
| 15:46 |
celeron55 |
oh |
| 15:47 |
celeron55 |
so shall we use http://minetest.ru/builds/minetest-0.4.5.zip as the official windows build? |
| 15:49 |
PilzAdam |
has it gettext and ttf support? |
| 15:50 |
celeron55 |
it's thexyz's build, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4240 |
| 15:50 |
thexyz |
it has everything |
| 15:50 |
thexyz |
i also removed -minetest.ru suffix for this one |
| 15:51 |
PilzAdam |
then its ok, I think |
| 15:54 |
celeron55 |
site updated; i guess i'll post a release notice on c55.me/blog as that is what some people follow |
| 15:54 |
PilzAdam |
should I write a forum topic? |
| 15:55 |
celeron55 |
i'll also copy the 0.4.4 release notice from the website to there, as the news section wasn't going to become persistent |
| 15:55 |
thexyz |
minetest.net still has some "Minetest-c55" |
| 15:56 |
celeron55 |
(because it lacks everything that you would expect from a proper news feed) |
| 16:02 |
PilzAdam |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=73978#p73978 |
| 16:08 |
thexyz |
> The main changes are a new mese system (mese is now a crystal), a new public server list and many new translations. |
| 16:08 |
thexyz |
ohh, so *those* are the main changes |
| 16:08 |
celeron55 |
main changes? lol |
| 16:08 |
PilzAdam |
fixed |
| 16:09 |
thexyz |
lol |
| 16:12 |
celeron55 |
http://c55.me/blog/?p=1436 |
| 16:12 |
thexyz |
oh, yes, someone should write a proper changelog |
| 16:13 |
thexyz |
because at the moment we only have two improper ones |
| 16:13 |
celeron55 |
if somebody finishes it, i'll copy it over to the blog |
| 16:13 |
celeron55 |
but as of now it seems to be messy |
| 16:16 |
celeron55 |
thexyz: let's apply the 0.3 fix now? |
| 16:16 |
celeron55 |
do you have it around somewhere |
| 16:16 |
thexyz |
um.. what fix? |
| 16:16 |
celeron55 |
the password exploit |
| 16:17 |
thexyz |
oh |
| 16:17 |
celeron55 |
well, i'll find the 0.4 commit somewhere, it should be trivially backportable |
| 16:18 |
celeron55 |
i can include the notice about it on that blog post and everyone else can include it too in their posts |
| 16:23 |
celeron55 |
...where the hell is it |
| 16:28 |
celeron55 |
it's like the whole thing didn't even exist in history |
| 16:29 |
celeron55 |
i can't find the fix in any version of 0.4... |
| 16:29 |
celeron55 |
ha, now i found it |
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| 16:38 |
celeron55 |
hmm, this also fails to build with irrlicht 1.8 |
| 16:38 |
celeron55 |
well, i'll not care for that now; i have irrlicht 1.7.1 too for cases like this 8) |
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| 16:47 |
celeron55 |
things that are fucking perfect: 1) a program built with irrlicht 1.7.1 headers will actually work just fine with a 1.8 shared library, 2) minetest 0.3.2 loads the relevant things from 0.4.5 config just fine |
| 16:47 |
celeron55 |
8))) |
| 16:52 |
hmmmm |
thexyz, the changelog i made wasn't ever finished and it was supposed to be finished by somebody who has knowledge of the changes in lua stuff, and also someone willing to put the time into typing up all the bugfixes |
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hmmmm |
argh |
| 16:56 |
hmmmm |
speaking of changelog, people are taking the inclusion of BiomeDefManager as "there are biomes now being generated" |
| 16:57 |
hmmmm |
i'm going to have to take the time to expand on specifically what each feature does |
| 16:57 |
hmmmm |
perhaps the dev wiki changelog is too technical |
| 16:58 |
Exio |
people? jojoa? :P |
| 16:58 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou's changelog lists more the user-visible things |
| 16:59 |
Exio |
what about a "technical stuff" section with a kwolekr-changelog saying what was added, removed, fixed, changed, in the core and other for the "user-visible" things? |
| 17:00 |
celeron55 |
0.3.3 with the fix pushed; PilzAdam: see the note in my blog post and edit that addition to your forum post too |
| 17:02 |
celeron55 |
that should get enough coverage to it... though i'll still need to see if i can poke some activity to the debian/ubuntu package maintainers |
| 17:02 |
hmmmm |
yeah but his changelog is not organized at all and is completely wrong on many of the contributions |
| 17:03 |
PilzAdam |
celeron55, will there be an official win build for 0.3.3? |
| 17:04 |
hmmmm |
yikes, people still use 0.3.x? |
| 17:04 |
hmmmm |
i don't believe that. it's just celeron alone |
| 17:05 |
PilzAdam |
redcrab and gameboom have 0.3 servers IIRC |
| 17:05 |
Jordach |
redcrab has a 0.3 server |
| 17:06 |
PilzAdam |
is there a forum topic for it? |
| 17:07 |
celeron55 |
PilzAdam: there isn't an official build for even 0.3.2 8) |
| 17:07 |
celeron55 |
(which had some missing things added to the creative inventory) |
| 17:07 |
PilzAdam |
same as 0.4.0 |
| 17:08 |
celeron55 |
what the fuck man: https://travis-ci.org/minetest/minetest/builds/5259190 |
| 17:08 |
PilzAdam |
0.4.1 was released 20 hours after 0.4.0 |
| 17:09 |
celeron55 |
why does that try to build a version that doesn't have those files that imply that it should even try |
| 17:10 |
celeron55 |
also: launchpad's stable recipes are borked: https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+recipe/minetest-c55-stable |
| 17:10 |
celeron55 |
it just says "Oops! Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad. We’ve recorded what happened, and we’ll fix it as soon as possible. Apologies for the inconvenience." 8) |
| 17:10 |
celeron55 |
going to try that sometime later i guess |
| 17:11 |
PilzAdam |
would it be possible to call it "Minetest" instead of "Minetest-c55" in launchpad too? |
| 17:12 |
celeron55 |
maybe, but it requires changes in multiple places and possibly deleting/recreating things |
| 17:13 |
celeron55 |
it consists of bzr mirrors of stuff and a project and whatever things like that |
| 17:13 |
celeron55 |
all having c55 in them |
| 17:14 |
celeron55 |
so you can't just press a button and expect it to be done 8) |
| 17:14 |
PilzAdam |
maybe ask the launchpad people for help and let them do the work? ;-) |
| 17:15 |
celeron55 |
they aren't going to do any work, but i could ask "the minetest launchpad guy" if he's interested |
| 17:15 |
PilzAdam |
and who is that? |
| 17:16 |
celeron55 |
juhani numminen (mentioned on the launchpad project page or somewhere); i'll throw him an e-mail |
| 17:17 |
celeron55 |
(it's always fun to write about minetest development in finnish, as this is the only case ever where i can do that) |
| 17:23 |
celeron55 |
done and out -> |
| 17:34 |
sfan5 |
proller: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/526/files#L0R34 |
| 17:34 |
sfan5 |
you can't just copy it from ogre cmake files |
| 17:35 |
sfan5 |
... ${OGRE_SOURCE_DIR}/Dependencies/lib/release/libGLESv2.lib ... |
| 17:35 |
proller |
randomize lines& 8) |
| 17:35 |
proller |
ok |
| 17:35 |
proller |
i test it in linux, and it works |
| 17:35 |
sfan5 |
also IF (NOT OGREKIT_BUILD_ANDROID) |
| 17:36 |
proller |
maybe remove all win32 shit ? |
| 17:36 |
sfan5 |
and what the fuck is "GLESL" https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/526/files#L0R107 |
| 17:37 |
proller |
openGL ES Lib |
| 17:38 |
proller |
i will remove all non linux |
| 17:38 |
sfan5 |
that sounds stupid to me |
| 17:39 |
proller |
GLESL or removing ? |
| 17:42 |
Exio |
ehm |
| 17:43 |
Exio |
http://dpaste.com/1013207/ in debian6 |
| 17:45 |
Exio |
what i did; git clone; mkdir -p minetest/build; cd minetest/build; cmake ..; make |
| 17:50 |
VanessaE |
12:49:31: ACTION[ServerThread]: Server: Player with an empty name tried to connect from 194.166.73.103 |
| 17:50 |
VanessaE |
12:50:17: ACTION[ServerThread]: Server: Player with an invalid name tried to connect from 194.166.73.103 |
| 17:50 |
VanessaE |
oh nice. |
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Exio |
other user in debian 6 reproduced that, it doesn't irrlicht 1.7 or what? |
| 18:05 |
Exio |
(the last commit) |
| 18:05 |
thexyz |
why do you want to build inside minetest/build? |
| 18:08 |
celeron55 |
to keep the source directory clean; i think such should be supported while at least i am generally way too lazy to do such |
| 18:11 |
Exio |
as c55 said |
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| 18:59 |
hmmmm |
speaking of libs, we should at some point either move away totally from jthread, rename it, or change the version so that the compiler will never attempt to use a system installed version of jthread |
| 19:00 |
hmmmm |
otherwise the build would break |
| 19:07 |
sfan5 |
what about something like "#ifndef _JTHREAD_SPECIALLY_FOR_MINETEST \n #error other jthread versions are not supported \n #endif" |
| 19:11 |
hmmmm |
well i don't want to have them uninstall the system jthread to build it |
| 19:14 |
sfan5 |
well... IIRC ''#import "jthread.h"'' searchs in the current direcotry first |
| 19:15 |
sfan5 |
*#include |
| 19:15 |
hmmmm |
your python is showing |
| 19:15 |
PilzAdam |
java? |
| 19:16 |
hmmmm |
ah yeah java too |
| 19:32 |
proller |
sfan5, now better? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/526/files |
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| 19:33 |
sfan5 |
proller: ${SOURCE_DIR}/Dependencies/lib/release/libGLESv2.lib is wrong and BUILD_ANDROID also |
| 19:33 |
sfan5 |
but its better |
| 19:33 |
proller |
remove? |
| 19:33 |
proller |
maybe it helps in future |
| 19:38 |
hmmmm |
the hell is this https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/strfnd.h#L140 |
| 19:38 |
hmmmm |
ugh |
| 19:39 |
hmmmm |
i'll deal with that whole file sometime late |
| 19:39 |
hmmmm |
later |
| 20:15 |
thexyz |
suggestion: switch to ustring (http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=37296) |
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| 20:19 |
Exio |
hm, my keyboard got "glitched" (only 's' working and 'a' working as 's'), is this known or something? |
| 20:19 |
Exio |
removed focus, retried and working |
| 20:30 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: ew. |
| 20:30 |
VanessaE |
someone never heard of caching. :-/ |
