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| 00:32 |
hmmmm |
you know i was checking out the terasology mapgen just for kicks |
| 00:33 |
hmmmm |
curiously, they use the same exact easeCurve that we do and minetest does |
| 00:33 |
hmmmm |
coincidence? i think not. everybody is copying from mincraft |
| 00:33 |
hmmmm |
in fact it looks like they took nearly everything from minecraft to be honest |
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| 00:35 |
jojoa1997 |
could someone please tell me what this means https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/biome.h#L60 |
| 00:35 |
jojoa1997 |
the liquid, hell, and aether biomes. Why have i not seen them? |
| 00:36 |
hmmmm |
because no mapgen included in upstream makes use of BiomeDefManager |
| 00:36 |
jojoa1997 |
i thought that was how biomes were made |
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| 00:37 |
hmmmm |
that's how they get defined... the mapgen still needs to make use of what's defined |
| 00:37 |
hmmmm |
the point of mapgen v7 is to make use of this new infrastructure |
| 00:37 |
jojoa1997 |
that is c++ right? |
| 00:37 |
hmmmm |
yes |
| 00:38 |
jojoa1997 |
where would it be in the minetest folder i cant find it |
| 00:38 |
hmmmm |
where would what be now |
| 00:38 |
jojoa1997 |
the mapgen code |
| 00:38 |
hmmmm |
which mapgen are we talking about |
| 00:39 |
jojoa1997 |
the one that defines biomes |
| 00:39 |
hmmmm |
the one that uses* biomes you mean... it's not part of upstream minetest |
| 00:40 |
jojoa1997 |
oh |
| 00:40 |
jojoa1997 |
so boimes are not defined upstream |
| 00:44 |
jojoa1997 |
hmmmm what is this? mgv6_np_mud |
| 00:44 |
hmmmm |
mud distribution perlin noise parameters for the map generator 'v6' |
| 00:45 |
jojoa1997 |
what is mud |
| 00:45 |
jojoa1997 |
or what resembles it? |
| 00:45 |
hmmmm |
dirt with no grass |
| 00:45 |
jojoa1997 |
would it be possible that is means a new node |
| 00:46 |
jojoa1997 |
a mud node |
| 00:46 |
hmmmm |
no |
| 00:47 |
jojoa1997 |
i mean if a mud node was added could it mean mud is spawned |
| 00:48 |
hmmmm |
it's trivial to replace any node that is generated with your own replacement node |
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| 08:05 |
celeron55 |
< thexyz> suggestion: switch to ustring |
| 08:05 |
celeron55 |
>ustring is a UTF-16 string class |
| 08:05 |
celeron55 |
what? are you serious? |
| 08:06 |
celeron55 |
anything utf-16 should be killed with fire |
| 08:06 |
celeron55 |
(we're stuck with windos and irrlicht though) |
| 08:06 |
* darkrose |
offers napalm |
| 08:10 |
thexyz |
why? |
| 08:10 |
thexyz |
we already use it |
| 08:10 |
thexyz |
(for cguittfont and non-latin chars input) |
| 08:15 |
thexyz |
now, explain! |
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| 08:23 |
celeron55 |
you know, utf-8 and utf-32 have downsides? |
| 08:23 |
celeron55 |
utf-16 takes the downsides of both and brings no upside whatsoever |
| 08:23 |
celeron55 |
it should be banned by law |
| 08:24 |
celeron55 |
because there is no valid reason for using it other than compatibility with crap |
| 08:26 |
thexyz |
the only upside of utf-8 in compare with utf-16 is backwards compatibility with ascii |
| 08:27 |
celeron55 |
yes, and the only upside of utf-32 compared to utf-16 is that it does not have to implement any kind of multi-character characters |
| 08:27 |
celeron55 |
utf-16 has no compatibility with ascii and has to implement multicharacter characters (or whatever those are called) |
| 08:27 |
celeron55 |
it's the absolute nonsense |
| 08:27 |
thexyz |
that's called a compromise |
| 08:28 |
thexyz |
it weights less |
| 08:28 |
celeron55 |
there is only one way of calling it a compromise: if you use it pretending it to not need those multi-things, breaking unicode |
| 08:28 |
thexyz |
and that is called ucs-2 (what minetest uses) |
| 08:28 |
celeron55 |
and that's what the windows people tend to do |
| 08:29 |
thexyz |
i don't see much of problem here since the library is already implemented |
| 08:31 |
celeron55 |
i simply won't ever approve utf-16; it can only lead to bad things |
| 08:31 |
thexyz |
hm.. |
| 08:31 |
celeron55 |
if you do it, then you do it; but you'll get no help from me |
| 08:31 |
thexyz |
revert the truetype patch then |
| 08:46 |
thexyz |
anyway, when do you think we should replace irrlicht containers/algorithms with stl ones? |
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| 09:07 |
celeron55 |
any time |
| 09:09 |
celeron55 |
maybe hmmmm would have some preference though |
| 09:09 |
celeron55 |
maybe not |
| 09:10 |
celeron55 |
(as i am actively trying to keep minetest out of my head to be able to work on other things, i don't really know (nor want to know) 8)) |
| 09:10 |
thexyz |
great, keep trying |
| 09:11 |
celeron55 |
i just occasionally browse the backlogs and shout at people; isn't it nice? :-D |
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| 12:52 |
sfan5 |
/home/stefan/mt-build/build/c55/minetest-minetest-dd8593f/src/scriptapi_inventory.h:23:21: error: irr_v3d.h: file or directory not found |
| 12:53 |
sfan5 |
does minetest require a higher irrlicht version? |
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| 13:40 |
Exio |
more than one haz that problem now |
| 13:40 |
Exio |
debian6 sfan5? |
| 13:41 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 13:41 |
sfan5 |
ubuntu 12.04.1 |
| 13:41 |
sfan5 |
*12.10 |
| 13:45 |
Exio |
hm |
| 13:46 |
Exio |
my solution was just "going back" one commit for now |
| 13:53 |
sfan5 |
it seems to be caused by the "#include <irr_v3d.h>" |
| 13:53 |
sfan5 |
i changed it to ''#include "irr_v3d.h"'' |
| 13:53 |
sfan5 |
i'll see if that works |
| 13:59 |
sfan5 |
this: https://gist.github.com/sfan5/5099474 |
| 13:59 |
sfan5 |
alsmost fixes it |
| 13:59 |
sfan5 |
*almost |
| 13:59 |
sfan5 |
now the same problem with irr_v2d.h |
| 14:02 |
sfan5 |
ok, done |
| 14:02 |
sfan5 |
https://gist.github.com/sfan5/5099474 should be a working patch that fixes the compile problems |
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| 14:23 |
Exio |
can you commit that? *or a pull request so it gets merged later* |
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| 14:24 |
Exio |
that was fast |
| 14:24 |
Exio |
hmmmm: can you commit a fix for the compile problems? |
| 14:24 |
hmmmm |
no, i'm going to school in a minute |
| 14:24 |
hmmmm |
what is the problem though |
| 14:24 |
hmmmm |
i am not aware of any sort of compile problem |
| 14:24 |
Exio |
the fix: [11:02:37] <sfan5> https://gist.github.com/sfan5/5099474 should be a working patch that fixes the compile problems |
| 14:24 |
Exio |
[11:02:37] <sfan5> https://gist.github.com/sfan5/5099474 should be a working patch that fixes the compile problems |
| 14:24 |
Exio |
oops |
| 14:25 |
Exio |
http://dpaste.com/1013207/ |
| 14:25 |
Exio |
the problem ^ |
| 14:25 |
RealBadAngel |
hi hmmm, answering to your question from earlier, crafting related patch was well tested |
| 14:25 |
hmmmm |
and you don't have irrlicht installed? |
| 14:28 |
RealBadAngel |
the formspec one i should close, i need to find a better way to solve some problems |
| 14:28 |
RealBadAngel |
facedir one will be out on weekend |
| 14:29 |
Exio |
we haz, without the scriptapi "separation" it compiles |
| 14:29 |
Exio |
s/separation/split |
| 14:29 |
hmmmm |
in "quotations"? |
| 14:29 |
hmmmm |
ehm. |
| 14:30 |
hmmmm |
well i don't understand why you'd need local header searches |
| 14:30 |
hmmmm |
unless you're doing something funny |
| 14:30 |
Exio |
git reset HARD~1 or whatever for going back one commit, cmake ..; make and compiles in the same box |
| 14:31 |
hmmmm |
there have been several commits since then |
| 14:31 |
hmmmm |
whatever |
| 14:31 |
Exio |
err, i said that the last night |
| 14:31 |
Exio |
not now |
| 14:31 |
hmmmm |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/b3e7d15bd61aa2c8d9bd7fb4a57dbffc4aad7296 |
| 14:33 |
Exio |
:P |
| 14:34 |
Exio |
now, bbl |
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grondilu |
Hello. Do you guys know about euclideon? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVB1ayT6Fdc |
| 15:43 |
thexyz |
meh |
| 15:43 |
thexyz |
> src/scriptapi.cpp.orig |
| 15:43 |
thexyz |
hmmmm: ^ |
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sfan5 |
thexyz: why not remove that? |
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| 16:36 |
thexyz |
i wonder what shall i do, either just remove it or remove it and then meld that new commit into previous one |
| 16:36 |
VanessaE |
I'd opt for the latter. |
| 16:40 |
* sfan5 |
too |
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| 17:07 |
thexyz |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/52#issuecomment-14510304 |
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| 20:19 |
RealBadAngel |
http://pastebin.com/3rTybXM6 |
| 20:20 |
RealBadAngel |
just made fresh mt install with usual couple of mods |
| 20:20 |
RealBadAngel |
and 2 questions risen. what the hecks digs air there? and why "im moving too fast" |
| 20:27 |
RealBadAngel |
also, created new world, checked "creative" |
| 20:27 |
RealBadAngel |
started the server, joined |
| 20:28 |
RealBadAngel |
world is not in creative mode |
| 20:29 |
PilzAdam |
is it reproduceable? |
| 20:29 |
RealBadAngel |
try it |
| 20:30 |
RealBadAngel |
i tried to create world 2 times, same effect each time |
| 20:30 |
RealBadAngel |
"this moving too fast" is the anti cheat code |
| 20:30 |
RealBadAngel |
have to disable this shit |
| 20:31 |
PilzAdam |
cant reproduce the creative thing |
| 20:31 |
RealBadAngel |
i just downloaded all new sources |
| 20:32 |
RealBadAngel |
compiled and tried |
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| 21:32 |
hmmmm |
oh shit |
| 21:32 |
hmmmm |
xyz did you get rid of that already |
| 21:33 |
thexyz |
oh |
| 21:33 |
thexyz |
i completely forgot |
| 21:33 |
thexyz |
about it |
| 21:33 |
thexyz |
sorry |
| 21:33 |
hmmmm |
i was in a hurry, i was late for school |
| 21:34 |
hmmmm |
wow, hasufell sounds angry |
| 21:35 |
hmmmm |
why do people want to use system versions of the libraries anyway? |
| 21:42 |
thexyz |
we probably should add *.orig *.rej to gitignore |
| 21:52 |
hmmmm |
what is .rej? |
| 21:53 |
thexyz |
a file patch creates when it fails to apply patch |
| 21:54 |
hmmmm |
ahh |
| 21:54 |
hmmmm |
you want me to do that? |
| 21:54 |
hmmmm |
guess we can make a commit that removes scriptapi.cpp.org and adds those to .gitignore, and we can smoosh it all up with PlizAdam's most recent commit |
| 21:57 |
hmmmm |
or no, i'll fix up my most recent by removing scriptapi.cpp.org and we can keep all the .gitignore additions in just that other commit |
| 21:57 |
hmmmm |
so don't change anything, hold on. |
| 21:58 |
thexyz |
that's why i asked you instead of changing things myself |
| 22:10 |
hmmmm |
wooohoo force updating is great |
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