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| 15:24 |
Fixer_ |
any ubuntu people? i've heared low fps in games for unity was caused by a bug and it was fixed and games should run with 2xbigger fps now |
| 15:24 |
Fixer_ |
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/987304 |
| 15:24 |
* sfan5 |
uses ubuntu 12.04 |
| 15:25 |
* brobostigon |
uses debian sid/unstable |
| 15:25 |
Fixer_ |
it is unity bug |
| 15:26 |
brobostigon |
so it was related to how it access's the graphics, as unity uses opengl, and so does minetest ? |
| 15:26 |
Fixer_ |
dunno, read the bug |
| 15:26 |
brobostigon |
ok. |
| 15:26 |
sfan5 |
minetest -> opengl , unity (not sure) -> opengl |
| 15:26 |
Fixer_ |
unity is OGL |
| 15:26 |
Fixer_ |
i mean compiz and compiz uses OGL |
| 15:27 |
brobostigon |
agreed, yes. |
| 15:27 |
Fixer_ |
so under the latest unity it will run much faster |
| 15:27 |
brobostigon |
similer improvements were made in gnome-shell also. |
| 15:28 |
Fixer_ |
nice |
| 15:28 |
brobostigon |
yes, it is almost [erfect now, compared to when i first tried it a few years ago now. |
| 15:28 |
brobostigon |
perfect* |
| 15:29 |
Fixer_ |
i've tried it on fedora and it worked fine on intel |
| 15:29 |
Fixer_ |
gnome is not bad if you like hotkeys :} |
| 15:29 |
Fixer_ |
but i'm looking for xfce 4.10 |
| 15:29 |
brobostigon |
i have tried gnome-shell on two machines, my mums nvidia, and my eeepc. and worked brilliently. |
| 15:30 |
brobostigon |
Fixer_: i like, not having to constantly move from mouse to keyboard and back and forth all the time, unless i have to. and i can do most things here in gnome3 keyboard alone. |
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| 17:49 |
art |
hi |
| 17:49 |
brobostigon |
hi art |
| 17:49 |
Calinou |
hi, art |
| 17:49 |
Calinou |
you're so beautiful! |
| 17:49 |
Calinou |
why don't you come in #minetest, too? o,o |
| 17:49 |
art |
hehe |
| 17:49 |
art |
;] |
| 17:50 |
art |
i have 2 questions |
| 17:50 |
Calinou |
yes? |
| 17:51 |
art |
1. can somebody explain me some part of code .. |
| 17:51 |
art |
i thing it was graphic core function but im not sure .. |
| 17:51 |
Calinou |
<art> 1. can somebody explain me some part of code .. |
| 17:51 |
Calinou |
not really; no "capable" coders are on right now :P |
| 17:52 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: I'm hurt! |
| 17:52 |
Calinou |
celeron55 isn't here, he's taking a break from MT again. |
| 17:52 |
Calinou |
marktraceur, maybe you |
| 17:52 |
Calinou |
:P |
| 17:52 |
marktraceur |
art: If you have a question, ask it, we'll do what we can |
| 17:52 |
Calinou |
do you know MT code well? |
| 17:52 |
Calinou |
and what's your second question? |
| 17:52 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: A little. I think I might know what he's asking |
| 17:54 |
art |
2. i have some expirience in C++ dev and i'm bored ;] is there something to do for poor quality programer ? :D |
| 17:56 |
art |
and about code .... i want to understand how is painting "staff" (exp torches) works .. |
| 17:56 |
art |
its all pretty clear to 1 point .. |
| 17:57 |
marktraceur |
art: For #2: https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/issues |
| 17:57 |
marktraceur |
If you'd like to work on some bugs :) |
| 17:58 |
Calinou |
suggestions: clientside particles, 3D models |
| 17:58 |
Calinou |
boats/minecarts :3 |
| 17:58 |
Calinou |
MOBS |
| 17:58 |
Calinou |
(if you plan on making these things, do not do these entirely in lua. this is why "animals" mod is so slow) |
| 17:58 |
art |
yep i was trying to 3D thing .. |
| 17:58 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: art appears to be asking for a *simple* project, not a two-month thing :P |
| 17:59 |
Calinou |
art, /msg or /tell command? private messages |
| 17:59 |
art |
marktraceur: have the point .. |
| 17:59 |
Calinou |
simple, useful |
| 17:59 |
art |
i have only 2-3 hours per day ;] |
| 17:59 |
Calinou |
a PM command shouldn't take long; maybe you can do it in lua |
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| 18:00 |
jordach |
art, you rang |
| 18:00 |
marktraceur |
Ha |
| 18:00 |
marktraceur |
art, jordach is thinking for working on a fork of minetest |
| 18:00 |
Calinou |
which sucks |
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| 18:00 |
jordach |
Calinou, Y U HATE EVERYTHING |
| 18:01 |
Calinou |
it's like if he took linux kernel 1.0 and said "let's make something with it" |
| 18:01 |
marktraceur |
I thought he might be able to more effectively use your talents, since the current state of minetest proper is "ehhhhh we don't accept patches for anything" |
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| 18:02 |
marktraceur |
art, these two have been around each other too much :) in short, if you want to work on the latest minetest, you should; but your patches may not be accepted for a very long time. If that's OK with you, either way works fine. |
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| 18:02 |
jordach |
marktraceur, you remember 0.2 minetest-delta? |
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| 18:02 |
marktraceur |
jordach: Not really, I think I came in after the 0.3 release |
| 18:02 |
jordach |
that everyone was forking it and playing with it |
| 18:02 |
Calinou |
celeron55 is taking a break as I said ;) |
| 18:02 |
Calinou |
so he can't really accept patches for now |
| 18:02 |
jordach |
Calinou, bleeding edge will kill you |
| 18:03 |
jordach |
art_ see this post for more data http://minetest.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2287 |
| 18:03 |
art_ |
ok sorry i have limited acces to internet |
| 18:03 |
jordach |
thats ok art_ ive seen worse |
| 18:03 |
art_ |
i will thing about this PM's |
| 18:04 |
jordach |
well, mail me |
| 18:04 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: I really like the current implementation of Minetest. I like 0.4. I like the Lua API. But jordach has a valid approach, and it might be a more interesting way for art_ to get involved in the project, if he can get immediate feedback. |
| 18:04 |
jordach |
art_, we are using bitbucket |
| 18:04 |
jordach |
(with git, not mercurial, or whatever they offer) |
| 18:04 |
art_ |
o0 |
| 18:05 |
art_ |
why not github ? |
| 18:05 |
art_ |
;D |
| 18:05 |
jordach |
art_, free private repos |
| 18:05 |
art_ |
is that so ? i thing i will change for it as well .. ;D |
| 18:06 |
jordach |
marktraceur, remember the big hoo haa about blockplanet? mine will actually do the things it said (no offense tank, lkjoel and sfan) |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
0.4 is great, a bit slower |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
people need to quit their 10 year old computer |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
<art_> ok sorry i have limited acces to internet |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
as in slow, or limited bandwidth? |
| 18:06 |
jordach |
Calinou, fyi: if crysis 2 gets 40+ fps that STFU |
| 18:06 |
marktraceur |
Calinou: My 8-year-old computer is running marktraceur.info:30000 :) |
| 18:06 |
* Calinou |
has 2.4/0.4 mbits connection - welcome to my club |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
marktraceur, o,o |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
MT servers are light |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
40MB of RAM per player (tested) |
| 18:07 |
marktraceur |
(and people for whatever reason think it's really fast, do not understand) |
| 18:07 |
Calinou |
:] |
| 18:07 |
art_ |
as not daily acces .. im using connection in work ;) |
| 18:07 |
Calinou |
k |
| 18:07 |
Calinou |
gtg |
| 18:07 |
art_ |
about my earlier question .. |
| 18:07 |
marktraceur |
art_: Yes? |
| 18:07 |
art_ |
S3DVertex(f32 x, f32 y, f32 z, f32 nx, f32 ny, f32 nz, SColor c, f32 tu, f32 tv) |
| 18:08 |
art_ |
x ,y ,z are cordinates in environment |
| 18:08 |
art_ |
c is a color of course .. |
| 18:09 |
art_ |
but what the other staff ? |
| 18:09 |
art_ |
nx ny nz ? and tu tv ? |
| 18:10 |
darkrose |
tu/v would be texture u/v coordinates |
| 18:10 |
art_ |
this class is used for painting textures on world colector .. |
| 18:10 |
marktraceur |
art_: My guess would be that the first six values indicate the minimum and maximum points |
| 18:11 |
marktraceur |
If you think about a rectangular prism, you can define all of its dimensions with only the minimum and maximum points |
| 18:11 |
marktraceur |
For a torch, nx and so on would only be 1 over, I think |
| 18:12 |
marktraceur |
Maybe 2 |
| 18:12 |
art_ |
video::S3DVertex(-BS/2,-BS/2,BS/8, 0,1,0, c, ap.x0(), ap.y1()), video::S3DVertex(BS/2,-BS/2,BS/8, 0,1,0, c, ap.x1(), ap.y1()), video::S3DVertex(BS/2,BS/2,BS/8, 0,1,0, c, ap.x1(), ap.y0()), video::S3DVertex(-BS/2,BS/2,-BS/8, 0,1,0, c, ap.x0(), ap.y0()), |
| 18:12 |
art_ |
omg .. |
| 18:12 |
art_ |
sory .. |
| 18:12 |
marktraceur |
It's cool |
| 18:12 |
jordach |
pastebin.com please |
| 18:12 |
art_ |
i will send it to pastebin |
| 18:13 |
art_ |
http://pastebin.com/k9Qp3Na3 |
| 18:13 |
art_ |
it's part of painting texture of torch |
| 18:15 |
art_ |
but why is there 4 vectors ? when this texture is only 2D ? |
| 18:15 |
darkrose |
oh right, n* are normals |
| 18:16 |
art_ |
normals ? |
| 18:16 |
art_ |
can u say somthing more about it ? |
| 18:16 |
NakedFury |
you plan to make the torch 3d? |
| 18:17 |
art_ |
that was primary idea but .. right now i just curies ;D |
| 18:17 |
art_ |
how its working |
| 18:18 |
darkrose |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_normal |
| 18:19 |
art_ |
ok thx ... that's explain everything .. |
| 18:23 |
art_ |
so... going back to 3D stuff like torches and sign's etc.. are they done already or not ? |
| 18:24 |
jordach |
technically, yes |
| 18:24 |
NakedFury |
with lua nodeboxes |
| 18:24 |
art_ |
lua ? |
| 18:25 |
art_ |
heh .. |
| 18:25 |
NakedFury |
they were made 3d with mods |
| 18:25 |
art_ |
nevermid... i will try to do PM's it should'n be hard |
| 18:26 |
art_ |
ah .. one more thing can i get link for newest git repository ?> |
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| 18:29 |
art_ |
bitbucket link guys plz .. |
| 18:31 |
marktraceur |
jordach: ^ |
| 18:31 |
jordach |
art_, i may have to add you to the contribs |
| 18:31 |
marktraceur |
art_: If you say someone's name, they're a lot more likely to notice, most IRC clients have a "highlight" feature |
| 18:31 |
jordach |
whats your user name |
| 18:32 |
art_ |
sory it's been a while when i last time used irc .. |
| 18:33 |
marktraceur |
It's cool |
| 18:34 |
art_ |
jordach: nah ... when i will do ... something usefull then we will thing about such things .. |
| 18:35 |
jordach |
art_, what is your bitbucket user name |
| 18:35 |
art_ |
right now i just want to known where u have newest branch... |
| 18:35 |
marktraceur |
art_: It's a private repo, he'll have to add you so you can see it |
| 18:35 |
art_ |
o .. |
| 18:36 |
art_ |
ok plz w8 i will create account .. |
| 18:36 |
jordach |
okay |
| 18:36 |
jordach |
i can wait |
| 18:37 |
art_ |
jordach: akupiec |
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| 18:41 |
jordach |
art_, https://bitbucket.org/minetestclassicteam/minetest-classic/src |
| 18:45 |
art_ |
all right i'made clone .. |
| 18:46 |
art_ |
jordach: there is only master branch ? |
| 18:46 |
jordach |
yes |
| 18:46 |
jordach |
we made one |
| 18:46 |
art_ |
ok thx |
| 18:47 |
art_ |
i have to and for today i will come back again in few days .. |
| 18:47 |
art_ |
see you guys ... |
| 18:47 |
marktraceur |
art_: Cheers! |
| 18:48 |
Calinou |
._. |
| 18:49 |
Calinou |
he's going to contribute to jordach's free minecraft |
| 18:49 |
* Calinou |
hopes it will never be popular anyway |
| 18:49 |
jordach |
Calinou, you read it wrong |
| 18:49 |
jordach |
MOBS CAN BE OMMITTED |
| 18:49 |
jordach |
and secondly, we want to milk as much performance as we can, without using a single sse |
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| 20:09 |
jordach |
does any one have the source to minetest 0.2 |
| 20:09 |
jordach |
and run it with celerons buildbot.sh |
| 20:29 |
VanessaE |
why not branch off 0.3 instead? |
| 20:29 |
VanessaE |
or early 0.4 before mobs were nuked? |
| 20:30 |
jordach |
VanessaE, we are trying to work out of the buildbot is adding something to the game that forces a game close |
| 20:30 |
jordach |
from the past, it compiles fine |
| 20:30 |
VanessaE |
ohh |
| 20:38 |
jordach |
i need as many buildbot builds as possible |
| 20:39 |
jordach |
because we plan on making a very quick version of minetest] |
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