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00:19 paramat hecks, default of 'num_emerge_threads' is 0, should it be described as 'Number of additional emerge threads to use.'? surely 1 is the minimum?
00:19 hecks Isn't 0 auto?
00:19 paramat currently it's described as 'Number of emerge threads to use.'
00:19 paramat oh maybe
00:20 paramat will investigate
00:22 paramat https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/b298b0339c79db7f5b3873e73ff9ea0130f05a8a/src/emerge.cpp#L131
00:24 paramat so blank or 0 is 'auto'
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01:39 Xiong "Store" does not exclude free
01:39 Xiong ... "store" means a place where stuff is stored.
01:53 Wuzzy What's the use case of mod channel?
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02:10 swift110 sup Wuzzy
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02:47 hecks https://a.uguu.se/m7Jg5XCFj4Ih_uhhuh.png
02:47 hecks I feel dirty
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02:59 sofar Wuzzy: inter client/server mod communication. Example: clients exchanging information about node drops, or, server sending clients information about weather conditions, etc etc
03:00 Wuzzy hmmm
03:01 sofar Could even be sound effect events or particle events
03:01 sofar Player lists on federated servers
03:01 sofar There are so many things you could do with it
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03:02 sofar Heck you could send schematics to other players
03:05 paramat as far as i understand it's primarily for communication between a serverside mod and a server-sent CSM
03:05 sofar That doesn't preclude any of the possible used I wrote, though
03:05 sofar Uses*
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03:11 paramat i agree
03:21 hecks Client to client communication is an interesting thing for netcode
03:23 hecks anyway, as terrible as executing unchecked lua code from the chat is, it does help you find bugs https://a.uguu.se/WyuaPGGl5YfS_bug.jpg
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03:53 hecks Oh wow, this... this works by complete accident.
03:58 hecks Made OOP with metatables, realized that new() might be used on instances but decided to leave that as 'undefined, do not use'.
03:59 hecks Now I needed a way to copy an instance and decided to try that, it worked.
04:02 hecks Only a dozen other bugs to deal with now, ha ha... https://a.uguu.se/fk2DdCSSRTfU_aaaaaa.gif
04:06 hecks Here's a problem... entities have on_activate, on_death, and get_staticdata
04:07 hecks Where's on_unload?
04:08 hecks There's get_staticdata but the docs only say it's "called sometimes", so I have no idea if that's the unload function
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05:30 hecks My instincts tell me life shouldn't be so horrible https://a.uguu.se/J58dPak487lG_grab.avi.webm
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13:46 rubenwardy Swedneck: https://content.minetest.net/
13:46 rubenwardy it's also not called Store anywhere in the interface
13:46 rubenwardy intentionally
13:46 rubenwardy it is in the code, because I couldn't think of a better word
13:47 rubenwardy but yeah :D
13:47 rubenwardy after 5.0 I can add fun features like trending mods, download counting, more meta in-menu, and dependency installation in-menu
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14:00 Swedneck any plans for improving the UI in general?
14:02 oiaohm rubenwardy: so ingame interface downloading known mods?
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14:17 rubenwardy yeah
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14:17 rubenwardy Swedneck: ofc, but formspecs make this painful
14:17 rubenwardy the idea is just to have a working UI to start off with
14:18 Swedneck well that's the thing, it doesn't work on mobile :P
14:20 Swedneck contentDB looks great btw
14:24 MinetestSam ContentDB doesn't work on mobile?
14:24 rubenwardy it does work
14:24 rubenwardy oh interesting
14:24 rubenwardy what happens on mobile?
14:25 rubenwardy also, you can use the Minetest Mods app until then
14:25 rubenwardy Minetest Mods now uses ContentDB
14:25 rubenwardy however, it has a bug where it installs to Minetest Game
14:25 MinetestSam Hm why not make an app for ContentDB?
14:26 rubenwardy Minetest Mods is an app for ContentDB, shallowly
14:27 rubenwardy it only support mods though
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14:27 rubenwardy and none of the extra features of CDB
14:27 MinetestSam What are the extra features?
14:27 rubenwardy dependency viewing without downloading a mod
14:27 rubenwardy more than one screenshot
14:28 rubenwardy threads and comments
14:28 rubenwardy adding a package
14:29 MinetestSam So will the CDB be integrated with MT if possible?
14:30 rubenwardy eventually, there will be support for all the meta data inside of MT, including deps and such
14:30 rubenwardy I don't plan to add comment support or anything requiring logins
14:31 MinetestSam Great
14:31 rubenwardy I could add a button to open the page in a web browser
14:31 rubenwardy and a review button would also do that same, probably, unless I allow anon reviews
14:32 MinetestSam Maybe a browser redirect would be better
14:32 rubenwardy huh?
14:33 MinetestSam A button that would open the mod or page in browser
14:34 rubenwardy that's what I meant by <rubenwardy> I could add a button to open the page in a web browser
14:35 MinetestSam Maybe just add basic features within MT and the rest such as checking out the code or commenting through browser
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16:06 MinetestBot [git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Fix a crash on Android with Align2Npot2 (#8070) 95d4ff6 https://git.io/fhGR4 (2019-01-07T16:05:18Z)
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16:19 Fixer !rainbow JUST ONE MORE YEAR AND THEN YOU WILL BE HAPPY
16:19 MinetestBot 4JUST7 ONE8 MOR3E YEAR A6ND THEN 4YOU 7WILL8 BE 3HAPPY
16:19 Fixer yellow on white is close to unreadable
16:27 Swedneck good thing no one uses white themes, right?
16:27 Swedneck :P
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16:34 Fixer I'm using
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18:57 MinetestBot asie: Dec-15 13:34 UTC <Megaf> Hi man, hows things? would you please update your mesegates mod? So it works with current mesecons. It's such an amazing mod and we were making heavy use of mesegates in my server. Up to this date we still gave broken circuits because we couldnt replace all mesegates. https://github.com/asiekierka/mesegates
18:57 asie Dec-15 of which year
18:57 Krock oof
18:57 Krock you must've been away for a long time
18:58 asie could be 2017 or 2018
18:58 asie i bet 2017
18:58 GreenDimond ^
18:58 asie the last time I was here was 11 Oct 2017
18:58 Krock http://irc.minetest.net/minetest/2017-12-15#i_5168501
18:58 asie oof
18:58 Krock oh wow. welcome back after this long break
18:58 asie ultimate oof
18:59 asie i noticed that lua_api.txt is like a lot longer than the last time i made minetest mods
18:59 asie so i'm curious about giving it another go
18:59 Krock people keep requesting stuff so it'll only become bigger
19:00 Krock get a 5.0.0-dev build though. otherwise you'll miss a few cool new features :)
19:00 asie i haven't started minetest up since 2015
19:00 asie what should i be most excited about
19:00 GreenDimond entity rotation
19:00 GreenDimond be very excited
19:01 GreenDimond and entity alpha
19:01 asie there's actually something i wanted to show you
19:01 asie so as some of you might know by day i'm a minecraft modder
19:01 GreenDimond is that why your name is familiar <.<
19:01 asie yes
19:01 asie you may know me from such hits as maintaining buildcraft for 1.7.10, or foamfix
19:02 asie but there's one mod i was working on in 2018 which i unfortunately had never finished
19:02 asie and probably never will
19:02 asie one moment
19:03 asie oof, lost the screenshots? gotta make a new one i guess
19:06 Krock indeed, I've also seen your name already somewhere. Minetest IRC, 2015 :P
19:06 Krock (not a minecraft player ^)
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19:09 asie https://img.asie.pl/FFlx there
19:09 GreenDimond rofl
19:10 Krock wow nice. did you add this nice looking diamond sword?
19:10 asie no
19:10 Krock :P
19:10 Krock the texture pack looks very familiar
19:10 asie yes, texture pack
19:10 Krock [thinking intensifies]
19:13 asie regardless, i hoped to finish it but ultimately prob. never will
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20:24 Calinou hey asie, long time no see :)
20:24 asie hi
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20:42 Swedneck i just installed mineclone 2 and it's giving very good first impressions
20:42 rubenwardy :)
20:42 rubenwardy it has an IRC channel, btw: #mineclone2
20:43 Swedneck nice
20:49 rubenwardy asie: is that actually Minetest?
20:49 asie no, that's minecraft
20:49 asie well, minetest's default game, i believe
20:49 asie on minecraft
20:49 asie sort of.
20:50 rubenwardy heh
20:50 rubenwardy asie: https://content.minetest.net/
20:50 rubenwardy in-menu content installing coming in Minetest 5.0
20:50 rubenwardy finally
20:51 rubenwardy oh, and also: hi!
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20:54 Swedneck rubenwardy: might be nice to have manual install instructions somehere on content.minetest.net
20:55 rubenwardy mabye
20:55 Swedneck even a link to the wiki would suffice
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21:26 Calinou hey Swedneck :P
21:26 Swedneck hey!
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22:35 IhrFussel MinetestSam, ContentDB definitely works on Android I tried it recently
22:36 IhrFussel It had a bug that made the app crash after 20-30secs but that was fixed shortly after...since then it works just fine and only eats ~ 50 MB RAM
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23:00 Edgy1 sfan5, u on mate?
23:00 sfan5 hm?
23:01 Edgy1 sfan5, if i put 2 servers with identical names and descriptions up in 2 locations, will one get automatically blacklisted?
23:01 sfan5 no
23:01 Edgy1 hmm
23:02 Edgy1 wonder why the new location wont announce
23:02 Edgy1 sfan5, is there a limit to how many servers can announce per IP?
23:02 sfan5 unlimited
23:02 Edgy1 hmm thats good
23:02 Edgy1 it said "announcing to servers.minetest.net"
23:03 Edgy1 sfan5, now i have this:
23:03 Edgy1 2019-01-07 18:03:21: ERROR[CurlFetch]: servers.minetest.net/announce not found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 500)
23:04 Edgy1 and my client which is on the same ip cant fetch it either
23:04 Edgy1 its acting like i got some kind of ban
23:04 Edgy1 server still wont announce
23:08 Edgy1 2019-01-07 18:08:17: ERROR[CurlFetch]: servers.minetest.net/announce not found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 500)
23:08 Edgy1 sfan5, what does that mean?
23:08 sfan5 let me check
23:10 Edgy1 it does that as soon as i use ^C
23:15 sfan5 well I have no idea
23:15 Edgy1 hmm
23:15 sfan5 what are you settings, which IP are you announcing on?
23:15 Edgy1 weird
23:15 sfan5 your*
23:15 Edgy1 im announcing on edgy1.net let me check ip again
23:15 sfan5 !up 96.230.201.212
23:15 MinetestBot 96.230.201.212:30000 is up (111ms)
23:15 sfan5 hm
23:16 Edgy1 96.230.201.212
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23:16 Edgy1 hmm
23:16 Edgy1 i have a lot of servers on it tho
23:16 Edgy1 let me remove sw old address thing and see if it goes up
23:19 Edgy1 still doesnt
23:20 Ruslan1 Hello
23:21 Edgy1 HA
23:21 Edgy1 i know why
23:21 Edgy1 GOD DAMN im stupid
23:21 Edgy1 forgot to reload firewalld XDD
23:23 Edgy1 sfan5, sorry about that DX
23:23 Edgy1 lol
23:23 Edgy1 helps to be smart
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23:29 sfan5 nice
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