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02:53 hisforever What url do I use to post screen shots in here?
02:58 KaadmY hisforever: you have to upload screenshots to a image hosting site first
02:58 KaadmY then put a link to the image here
03:00 hisforever I knew that Kaadmy I need a web page?
03:01 hisforever address
03:04 KaadmY hisforever: yes
03:04 KaadmY the url
03:04 KaadmY ie. http://minetest.net
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03:23 hisforever Ok let me try this again, I need a web address for uploading screen shots? So I csn shair them in here please?
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03:25 hisforever sorry I had to relogin
03:32 KaadmY wow
03:32 KaadmY '
03:41 H-H-H have you tried google
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04:15 Yellowberry hi all I'm trying to get the best version of minetest for Android
04:16 Hijiri the newest version is on F-Droid
04:17 Hijiri Play Store only has 0.4.13, the newest is 0.4.14
04:17 Yellowberry oh alright
04:17 Yellowberry t
04:18 Yellowberry thanks, be back later
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09:31 burli hi, I'm setting up a test server. Can someone please try to connect to it? smobtest.ddns.net 30001
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09:32 Calinou burli: connected to it
09:32 burli great, thanks
09:33 burli don't expet much. It'i vanilla v7 just with my own mob mod
09:38 burli I'll let the server running for a while if someone else want to visit my sheep ^^. Will use this server for testing my mobs
09:41 Calinou Minetest desperately needs yaw interpolation :|
09:41 Calinou for entities
09:43 burli there is an automatic option, but it doesn't worked well. My own solution works better and I have more control
09:47 Calinou I mean, client-side
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09:50 burli !up smobtest.ddns.net 30001
09:50 MinetestBot smobtest.ddns.net:30001 is up (27ms)
09:51 burli server seems to be fine again
09:51 burli Calinou, don't know how client side would work
09:52 Calinou it needs like 20 lines of C++ to be done
09:52 Calinou interpolate old and new yaw on the client-side of players and other entities
10:02 burli Ah, ok. But how does the client know how fast it should be?
10:02 burli Not shure that this really works well in any situation
10:03 Calinou burli: like the current position interpolation
10:03 Calinou a fixed time factor looks good enough
10:03 Calinou note that a tick is 0.1 second by default, too
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11:46 mmmm hi
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11:47 mmmm are here someone?
11:47 Megaf Good morning all
11:47 everamzah good morning, mmmm
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11:57 mmmm hi
11:57 mmmm i was afk
11:57 mmmm i cannot go to amhi irc
11:57 everamzah no?  do you try that web irc link from yesterday?
11:57 everamzah download hexchat
11:57 mmmm yes
11:58 everamzah ok, just download hexchat if you're going to use irc much a lot
11:58 mmmm was wrote : hostname prot and nickname must be secified
11:58 everamzah https://hexchat.github.io/
12:00 mmmm why it was wrote? earlier it worked good
12:00 everamzah well it's daconcepts.com and make sure not to leave name field blank
12:00 everamzah it may have reset settings.  so if you use hexchat, it might save your settings better
12:01 mmmm ok
12:01 everamzah https://kiwiirc.com/client/daconcepts.com/
12:01 everamzah ^ note the daconcepts.com there, and do make sure nickname field is not blank
12:02 everamzah there's a little "server and network" dropdown you can click on there too, so make sure it says daconcepts.com ... maybe that's why, try maybe a bookmark
12:02 mmmm now it work good
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12:02 everamzah but if you like, download hexchat because it's a program for chatting on IRC
12:13 Fixer hexchat sacks
12:13 Fixer sucks*
12:13 everamzah well, yeah, but it's better than a web client
12:13 everamzah i use weechat, fixer
12:15 everamzah how come you don't recommend a better alternative then
12:16 everamzah i heard good things about quassel, and i think it is cross-platform so it works on windows, but i haven't tried it
12:16 everamzah i used to use xchat though, so i typically recommend hexchat for newer irc users
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12:38 * Megaf @ quassel
12:38 Megaf One of the best irc clients for sure
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12:45 everamzah easy for first timers on windows, is it?
12:45 Calinou relatively
12:45 Calinou you need to start the Monolithic Quassel if you don't have a core running somewhere
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13:32 agaran Hello, anyone knows if there exist mod adding more things to pipeworks?
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13:55 Krock agaran, technics
13:55 Krock *technic
13:55 agaran forgot to mention aside of it, I know it, motivated me to write own cables that aren't so bulky..
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14:03 agaran but technic+pipeworks are awesome combo
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16:55 everamzah wheels of steel
16:55 agaran hmm?
16:57 Krock steelwheel
17:04 everamzah technics
17:04 ElectronLibre Is that like a game where you need to guess a word from someone's hints?
17:05 everamzah yes
17:05 everamzah your turn
17:05 ElectronLibre iron?
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17:10 everamzah multiservers
17:11 ElectronLibre Lag?
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17:12 everamzah http://minetest.org/ircproject/2016-07-17.html
17:13 ElectronLibre Oh my
17:14 everamzah https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=14&t=15174 & https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=10&t=15175
17:15 Krock he has got fast hands
17:19 ElectronLibre I agree with the idea of server admins managing "login pools" to hop from server to server
17:20 ElectronLibre It's far better than centralised login in my opinion
17:20 ElectronLibre Kind of like how IRC operators managed multiple servers in a network
17:20 ElectronLibre s/managed/manage
17:20 ElectronLibre And I forgot the last / again..
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17:29 DuCake Hello. Main thing I am wondering for shared logins if it should be a system/syadmin-level thing or make it part of the core engine's capabilities?
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18:41 hisforever I need a webpage address for showing screen shots please?
18:42 Calinou we don't particularly have a Gallery page (we could have one though)
18:42 Calinou just use http://www.minetest.net/#gallery for now
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18:44 agaran Is there any server where I could look at some builds using technic/pipeworks ? I am just curious how some things should be build..
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19:15 agaran But there are mostly mesecons related, I was more curious about arrangements for automatic processing with pipeworks/technic as mine always somehow look wrong, even if they are working
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19:17 agaran But I'll try that dreambuilder server, thanks :)
19:25 hisforever What are the seeds for when starting up my own server?
19:26 hisforever or a new world?
19:27 Fritigern Unless you enter a seed yourself, it will be a random seed.
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19:35 hisforever I'm running Manjaro Linux, I have a ton of conflicts. Where do I go to resolve them? there bacialy name changes
19:36 Calinou hisforever: ask in your distribution channel
19:36 Calinou and Manjaro is not particularly known for its quality...
19:39 hisforever ty Calinou but I've been using Manjaro for about 3 years, I'm very happy with the os. I was talking about minetest name conflicts
19:41 hisforever sorry I didn't make myself clear about it was mintest conflicts
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20:01 hisforever how do I fix tthis (Will not load: /home/hisforever/.minetest/m​ods/technicmaster/technic)?
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20:09 jan6 change technicmaster to technic?
20:10 Krock hisforever, move techic to ..
20:10 Krock so it will be in /home/hisforever/.minetest/mods/technic
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20:10 jordan4ibanez Is there a function for if a player moves items around their inventory?
20:10 Krock and inside, the init.lua file
20:11 hisforever Krock it is in tthe mods folder
20:12 Krock jordan4ibanez, there's no "on_metadata_inventory_move"-like for players
20:12 Krock hisforever, then try now
20:13 hisforever ok will do ty krock
20:13 Krock say ty when it works :P
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20:22 hisforever Krock, do you know of a web page that I can upload a screenshot for these errors I have not found one.
20:22 Krock http://imgur.com
20:22 hisforever ty thats the 1 I needed
20:23 Krock google outputs may other image hosters
20:23 Krock even duckduckgo gives good results
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20:26 mc helo
20:26 mc hello im a newbie
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20:27 mc can anyone heelp how to start a server
20:28 hisforever http://imgur.com/4yErzVc there is the url krock
20:28 Krock mc, there are good tutorials for creating a server on the forums (subforum "Servers")
20:29 Calinou you need some networking know-how to do it
20:29 Krock hisforever, oh shit. technic is a modpack :<
20:29 Calinou it's not like starting a singleplayer game or joining a server...
20:30 Krock hisforever, sorry. I gave you wrong instructions. Your revious setup was all right
20:30 hisforever I think it is?
20:30 Krock *previous
20:30 hisforever when
20:31 Krock this one: /home/hisforever/.minetest/​mods/technicmaster/technic
20:31 Krock there must be a modpack.txt file in the technicmaster directory
20:31 Krock otherwise it's not a valid modpack
20:32 hisforever when I put technic in the mods folder I get errors
20:32 hisforever I'll check on that
20:32 agaran here, structure is like /mods/technic/ then it contains few more directories, technic, technic_chests, etc.. along with mentioned by Krock file
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20:32 mc krock and calinou can you take me to a page where i can get started  , i have hosted a gameserver before.
20:32 Krock okay. the errors in the image are caused by the dreambuilder modpack - but it looks like it's rather a game
20:33 Calinou mc: what OS are you on?
20:33 Krock mc, https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=10&amp;t=8924 the steps are +/- the same on Linux
20:33 mc ubuntu
20:34 hisforever dreambuilders is a game, I'll move over to games
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20:34 Krock agaran, yes. so you get a folder structure like this: mods/technic/technic/init.lua   mods/technic/technic_worldgen/init.lua  etc
20:34 Krock ^ hisforever
20:36 jan6 ^ that's what i said at the beginning
20:37 mc krock where can i get list of events, functions
20:37 agaran there is lua_api.txt file..
20:38 mc Oh
20:38 agaran other than that I read other mods if I need something..
20:38 agaran and there is dev wiki too, but not always having all info I seek for
20:39 Krock rubenwardy wrote a good modding book. you might want to read it too: http://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/
20:41 mc Thanks that book seems helpful :)
20:42 hisforever http://imgur.com/bn7gjXZ   , error2 sorry for the trouble krock
20:43 Krock ..
20:43 Krock so many mods that are either wrong or not installed
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20:43 Krock hisforever, <Krock> so many mods that are either wrong or not installed
20:43 hisforever clicked on the wronge tab lol
20:44 hisforever ok guess I'll redownload that mod and see what happens
20:44 Krock that's a huge mess you got there. are you sure the dreambuilder thing you got is really a modpack? (older versions were a complete game)
20:45 hisforever I see that the older were easyer to understand (grin)
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21:27 hisforever I redowmloaded the technic_master, What should I rename it?
21:28 agaran I would say that it should become mods/technic,
21:28 agaran as it is modpack..
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22:22 hisforever I'm back with another error http://imgur.com/ve3Jgy1 this one is on the fishing mod :(
22:27 Hijiri !up smobtest.ddns.net 30001
22:27 MinetestBot smobtest.ddns.net:30001 seems to be down
22:31 hisforever need help to see if I can correct this error ot is (2016-07-17 18:16:44: ERROR[Main]: /home/hisforever/.minetest/​mods/fishing/init.lua:127: attempt to index global)?
22:32 Fixer_ hisforever: report to fishing mod maker
22:33 hisforever ok fixer ty
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22:44 jordan4ibanez So I see that there's stuff.allow_move = callbacks.allow_move in builtin detached inventory, where are the callback functions?
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22:49 hisforever fixer I posted fishing error to the forum Thanks for the help
23:00 hisforever I'm about ready to give up on minetest, here is my error screen shot ( http://imgur.com/5XI66dI )
23:01 ElectronLibre That happens
23:02 ElectronLibre I don't know why, I have similar "not found" errors
23:02 ElectronLibre Are you trying to load something specific from the map's database?
23:06 jordan4ibanez Is it trying to load up a mapblock that's not written to memory?
23:07 ElectronLibre It mostly likely is what that error is
23:07 ElectronLibre Trying to load a mapblock stored at an index not present in the database
23:08 ElectronLibre I've seen that when entire sections are destroyed using /deleteblocks
23:17 hisforever ElectronKibre, I got in woth out an error now Ty for your comback
23:29 hisforever for the life of me I can't rember how to craft a window?
23:34 Hijiri jordan4ibanez: callbacks is an argument to the function
23:40 hisforever minetest-craft_guide How should I rename this?
23:42 jordan4ibanez craft_guide
23:42 hisforever thanks Jordan
23:44 jordan4ibanez You're welcome
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23:50 jordan4ibanez What is the craft inventory called? I know the main is "main"
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23:56 Hijiri craft

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