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00:06 kaadmy H-H-H: Link: https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=15&t=13181
00:07 kaadmy and connect to pixture.quelcom.xyz:30000 for a server
00:07 kaadmy "/pm kaadmy <something>" for interact
00:07 H-H-H i love the way rain works in the game
00:10 H-H-H kaadmy i sent you a pm but your not in game lol
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00:26 H-H-H ok got fed up of waiting so deleted it lol
00:27 kaadmy i know
00:27 kaadmy i'll check now
00:29 kaadmy damn mt's not connecting to the server on my phone
00:29 kaadmy keeps crashing
00:30 H-H-H im in your server right now
00:31 kaadmy you don't have to be connected for me to grant interact
00:32 kaadmy i'll grant you interact when i get mt to not crash
00:33 H-H-H i know i run a server myself but thought i would logon so i could do something when i get interact lol i wonder if i could make a minetest managment app for android hmmmmm
00:34 kaadmy phew got it working
00:34 kaadmy granted you interact
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00:37 H-H-H ty
00:38 H-H-H now just got to get out of this big hole i fell in lol
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00:43 kaadmy you can get out of the mines easily
00:43 kaadmy i specifically made some steps unless someone removed them
00:50 H-H-H i got out however im now on hunt for some coal as i slipped and accidently killed a pig :|
00:56 kaadmy lol
00:58 Fixer hmmmmm, that was close to hmmm_m
00:59 H-H-H iii like this server its nice and responsive but i will be honest im not that keen on the graphics :)
00:59 H-H-H just my opinion of course
00:59 kaadmy anything you dislike about them?
01:00 kaadmy i'm not too satisfied with them either
01:03 H-H-H they are ok for say a kids game as they are kind of cartoon like
01:03 H-H-H i much prefer mt default graphics but then im nearly 40 yrs old lol
01:05 * H-H-H is now going to attempt a parachute jump
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01:10 * H-H-H didnt mean to offend :)
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01:53 kaadmy heh
01:53 kaadmy parachutes are cool ;)
02:12 H-H-H hey kaadmy do you mind if i re use some code from your mods in my own game im developing?
02:17 kaadmy nope
02:17 kaadmy which mods?
02:18 H-H-H pm and playerlst have code i would like to reuse but there will probably be more by the time ive finished looking through them
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03:28 kaeza o/
03:28 kaeza VanessaE, around?
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04:33 kaeza ShadowNinja, around?
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05:04 swift110_ hey guys
05:04 swift110_ i was in the wrong room all this time
05:20 YuGiOhJCJ hello, how to allow a player to interact only with a small area in the world?
05:23 sofar YuGiOhJCJ: mod to restrict movement, and take away interact based on location?
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05:36 YuGiOhJCJ do you know a mod that is doing that restriction?
05:36 MinetestBot [git] kaeza -> minetest/minetest: Fix world config menu ignoring `name` in `mod.conf`. a594963 https://git.io/vzoZ0 (2016-01-23T21:14:14-05:00)
05:40 sofar YuGiOhJCJ: sorry, no
05:40 sofar but it doesn't seem that difficult to do
05:42 est31 heh yeah, it probably only requires to add a "not" in one place at SN's areas mod
05:45 YuGiOhJCJ yes I will try that
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08:06 Thomas-S hi
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08:26 Thomas-S bbl
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08:41 Thomas-S hi
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11:43 red-001 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.ph​p?f=10&amp;t=10539&amp;p=205530#p205441
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13:01 red-001 is there a way to convert lua nodeboxes to .obj meshs ?
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13:04 farooghkz hi.i should copy textures in minetest/textures/
13:04 farooghkz right?
13:04 sfan5 red-001: a way, yes; a program that does this, no
13:04 sfan5 farooghkz: yes you can put texture pack folders there
13:05 red-001 so what's the way?
13:05 sfan5 i don't know
13:05 sfan5 but you can do that
13:05 red-001 ok
13:07 farooghkz sfan, and then?
13:09 farooghkz i cant use it
13:09 red-001 !tell rubenwardy Nodebox editor doesn't compile in Visual Studio 2013
13:09 MinetestBot red-001: I'll pass that on when rubenwardy is around
13:12 Calinou >2016 >2013
13:13 farooghkz i put pixelbox's folder in minetest/textures but i cant use it
13:15 farooghkz im using mt 0.4.9
13:16 sfan5 try installing a new minetest version
13:18 farooghkz why?
13:19 VanessaE you were told before that 0.4.9 is obsolete, farooghkz.
13:19 VanessaE upgrade.
13:20 fireglow farooghkz: is there any reason why you can't upgrade to 0.4.13?
13:21 farooghkz well i cant install it for many days
13:21 VanessaE why not?
13:21 VanessaE is there some error?
13:22 farooghkz i dont have internet
13:22 Obani -.-
13:22 VanessaE bullshit
13:23 VanessaE you're already ON the internet if you can chat with us.
13:23 Obani You downloaded it yesterday
13:23 giho > Iran
13:23 VanessaE > proxies, tor, VPN's ....
13:24 Obani you downloaded github's repo of Carbone-ng and minetest yesterday
13:24 fireglow what's with the hostile attitude
13:24 farooghkz i couldnt download mt yesterday.
13:24 VanessaE then download it now.
13:25 VanessaE fireglow: bullshit excuses earn hostile responses. :P
13:26 fireglow Not sure about that. He may have his reasons.
13:26 VanessaE if he can download carbone, or a texture pack, he can download minetest from the main website.
13:27 giho May be it is banned and he wants us to solve his connection problem.
13:27 VanessaE whether he can *install* it is a different question, but that's independent of his ability to retrieve it.
13:27 fireglow I see. Well, you're making assumptions. What's obvious for you may not hold in his scenario.
13:28 * VanessaE sighs
13:28 VanessaE my assumptions are based directly on his claims.
13:28 fireglow 142446  farooghkz │ i couldnt download mt yesterday.
13:28 VanessaE he HAS a copy of carbone, which he had to get from github.  minetest has 0.4.13 release builds there, also.
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13:29 hos71L3 you all is fat
13:29 Obani xD
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13:29 VanessaE whatever the texture pack is that he's downloaded, that probably also came from either github or dropbox
13:30 VanessaE which clearly means he CAN download.
13:30 Obani farooghkz, do you have a constant internet access ?
13:30 fireglow Alright. Well, I'm not going to repeat myself. :)
13:31 VanessaE [01-24 08:32] * Ping reply from farooghkz: 1.732 second(s)  <-- that's a yes.
13:31 red-001 VanessaE didn't you write a script to convert nodeboxes to meshnodes?
13:32 VanessaE red-001: yeah, see my "slope test" mod, it's in a 'spoiler' box in the first post
13:34 farooghkz LOLOLOL
13:35 farooghkz i come here with my mobile phone and i downloaded carbone-ng and pixelbox with my phone but i think i cant download and install mt
13:36 sfan5 why don't you try to download it
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13:40 farooghkz ok.ill try.but which file should i download?
13:41 fireglow That's exactly the scenario I had in mind, heh
13:42 fireglow farooghkz: can you somehow get the file on your phone to your computer?
13:42 farooghkz yes.if i can download it
13:43 fireglow and what operating system is your computer running?
13:44 farooghkz ubuntu
13:46 farooghkz also windows
13:47 farooghkz but i like to run that in ubuntu else earlier i could download and install 4 windows
13:48 fireglow ubuntu 16.04?
13:48 fireglow I'm not an expert in DEB packaging, but maybe this is the correct file to download and install on your system: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xeni​al/amd64/minetest/0.4.13+repack-1
13:48 fireglow http://launchpadlibrarian.net/2229533​90/minetest_0.4.13+repack-1_amd64.deb
13:49 fireglow there should be a tool installed on Ubuntu to install .deb packages
13:49 farooghkz ubuntu-14.04 i386
13:51 sfan5 ah there's the problem
13:51 sfan5 there are no newer ubuntu 14.04 32-bit builds
13:52 fireglow ah yes
13:55 farooghkz another way: compile from src.hard and slow
13:55 fireglow might be impossible, if you don't have the tools for compiling already installed on your ubuntu system.
13:56 farooghkz yes
13:56 fireglow or it will get really hairy with downloading on your phone and transferring all those packages over to your computer.
13:56 farooghkz i think i dont have
13:57 farooghkz bye4now
14:05 Ronsor hi
14:05 Ronsor i have a question
14:05 Ronsor where does enable_local_map_saving store the saved maps?
14:05 red-001 worlds/servername_server_ip
14:07 Ronsor thanks
14:10 Ronsor i think local map saving is a good idea for e.g. if a server goes down
14:12 Ronsor hehe it works
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14:19 Ronsor now, how do I play these saved maps though, it doesn't show up in the worlds list
14:33 red-001 you should download a copy of the mods the server uses
14:37 Ronsor i know the mods
14:37 Ronsor and have them
14:38 red-001 ok create a new world with the mapgen singlenode
14:38 red-001 enable the mods for that world
14:39 red-001 then copy map.sqlite from the place the map got saved
14:39 red-001 to the new world folder
14:39 Ronsor ok
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14:42 Ronsor it worked! thank you!
14:42 Ronsor now i have a local copy of my work on the skyblock server
14:46 red-001 are you also called ronsor on the server?
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14:50 Ronsor Ronsor_
14:50 Ronsor with an underscore
14:50 Ronsor Ronsor was taken
14:50 luizrpgluiz hi all :)
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14:57 Amoebaa hi, if I want to ask about minetest features and possibly submitting improvements to them (specifically, the minimap), should I be here or move over to #minetest-dev ?
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15:01 luizrpgluiz Amoebaa: you should go in the game development room and put his future in the new gihub game
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17:10 Ronsor here's a tip
17:10 Ronsor if you dont want griefers on your server
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17:10 Ronsor dont publish to servers.minetest.net
17:10 Ronsor i've had to ban 6 people already
17:13 kaadmy what name does celeron55 play MT under?
17:17 Calinou Ronsor, if you don't want players on your server* :P
17:17 Calinou kaadmy, not sure if he often plays Minetest anymore
17:18 Calinou he used to host a server
17:18 kaadmy because melzua's Pixture server has had someone named "c55" a couple hours ago
17:18 red-001 do you have a protection mod? ronsor?
17:19 red-001 kaadmy I doubt it was celron55
17:22 Ronsor yeahi do
17:22 Ronsor *I do
17:22 Ronsor but still they come and try
17:22 Ronsor i ended up using denaid protection
17:22 Ronsor just banned pvp and mods around my stuff
17:23 Obani kaadmy, yes, someone named c55 is flying around. But I guess it's just a normal player. Or maybe not ?
17:25 red-001 flying?
17:25 red-001 as in actually flying?
17:26 Ronsor do you have flying enabled for him btw?
17:26 red-001 or figuratively  flying
17:26 Obani red-001, figuratively, ofc
17:26 Ronsor oh
17:27 Ronsor i was afraid he was one of them fake script kiddies that use hacked clients and can't code
17:27 Obani It can be cool to hack the client
17:28 Obani As long as it doesn't give you god-like privs
17:28 red-001 'just test'
17:28 Obani But it can be useful to tweak little things
17:28 Obani (color codes, for example)
17:28 red-001 if someone can survive there they *are* hacking
17:29 red-001 Obani then it's not hacking
17:29 Obani it is
17:30 red-001 does it give you an unfair advantage?
17:30 Obani Yes
17:30 Obani But a hack isn't something that gives you an unfair advantage
17:30 red-001 ?
17:30 Obani Hacking is to find a way to do something
17:30 Obani For example
17:31 Obani How to put a truck on an university
17:31 Obani I mean
17:31 Obani ON
17:31 Obani This is hack
17:31 Obani How to reduce damage flash speed, change its color
17:31 Obani It is hack
17:31 red-001 I meant hacking as in exploiting weakness in a computer system
17:31 Obani How to give you admin privileges
17:32 Obani It is hack
17:32 Obani Well, if its so weak, why don't you try to protect it ? :p
17:32 red-001 anti cheat is hard to make
17:32 Obani You have tools to do it, don't you ?
17:32 red-001 and I don't know a lot of c++
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17:34 Obani red-001,  if you can't hack for it disappears
17:34 Obani Stop tell it's a problem :p
17:34 Obani There will always be fools who will want to break the rules
17:34 Obani And kids that will want to use their tools
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17:36 Lugal HI
17:36 Lugal have problem
17:37 Lugal I build building in Windows, now I copy map to Linux, and building is not there. Wtf and why?
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17:38 Ronsor that should never happen
17:40 VanessaE Lugal: you have proper support for your map's backend, under linux?
17:40 VanessaE e.g. leveldb
17:40 Ronsor also fyi i use a hacked client, but I leave the 'cheats' disabled
17:41 Ronsor well except on my stuff
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17:41 red-001 Obani: red-001,  if you can't hack for it disappears
17:41 red-001 ?
17:41 red-001 what do you mean?
17:42 Obani If you can't hack the engine fo it permits you to disable hacks
17:42 Ronsor anti-cheat is hard to make
17:42 * red-001 ...
17:42 Ronsor and i know C++
17:44 red-001 Obani Sorry, I still don't understand what you mean
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17:53 MBB hi
17:53 MBB hi
17:54 red-001 hi
17:54 giho hi
17:54 Lugal the building is still there on Windows, but not in LInux. and the difference in only the amount of blocks
17:54 Lugal the same blocks that are in the linux world
17:55 MBB come on my minetest server  jbb.ddns.de : 43234
17:55 MBB please
17:55 MBB twe have an nice world there
17:55 Lugal so is there any other saving location for windows? (does it save the world in myfiles folder or something)
17:55 MBB hmm
17:57 MBB but come on please
17:57 Lugal cant connect to your server
17:57 MBB hmm
17:57 MBB jbb.ddns.de
17:57 MBB :43234
17:57 Lugal treid that
17:57 Ronsor oh hey
17:57 red-001 can you give us an ip?
17:57 Ronsor why you're at it
17:57 Ronsor can you join mine too
17:58 Ronsor 108.196.9.243:30000
17:58 MBB hmm
17:58 MBB come on my server please
17:58 MBB i havent enaugh players
17:59 red-001 and my sever 127.0.0.1
17:59 MBB hmm
18:00 kaadmy red-001: lol
18:01 MBB come on my serv please
18:01 MBB come on my serv please
18:01 MBB tplease
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18:03 fireglow give me 5 EUR and I will join your server
18:03 MBB are you little lot
18:03 fireglow no, I am fireglow
18:03 MBB hmm we have an little lot
18:04 MBB the plays on 4.firc.de
18:12 Krock oh cool? people are paid for joining servers?
18:12 * Krock wants too
18:14 Fixer ._.
18:16 JBB yes of course
18:16 MBB hes the admin of my ld server
18:17 JBB Im not rich enough for paing people
18:17 JBB I use the public seerverlist
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18:33 fireglow !seen Sokomine
18:33 MinetestBot fireglow: sokomine was last seen at 2016-01-17 22:58:03 UTC on #minetest-de
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19:00 everamzah red-001: lmao
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19:02 everamzah i guess tobyplowy removed his comment asking about latest git
19:02 everamzah it really looks, now, like you're telling paramat where to find latest mt
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19:21 kaeza o/
19:22 fireglow hi kaeza :)
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19:45 kaadmy would it be OK to bundle minetest with Pixture  as a single game on itch.io?
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19:48 est31 That's what the engine is for, isn't it?
19:49 Ronsor yeah
19:49 Ronsor you can do that
19:49 Ronsor the license allows
19:51 kaadmy i was pretty sure that it's ok, just want to see if anybody has objections/problems
19:51 kaadmy and minetest itself is't on itch.io yet
19:52 everamzah how considerate of you to ask!  i wish you great success.  seems a lot of people are very intested in pixture.
19:53 kaadmy ^
19:53 kaadmy i think bundled with minetest as the main subgame and remove minetest_game would be nice
19:53 kaadmy then see if people that don't understand mods/subgames can play it ;)
19:54 everamzah now that's asking a lot.  personally, i think minetest ought to be distributed without a subgame at all.
19:54 everamzah probably the other end of the "nope" spectrum
19:54 kaadmy yes, but in its current state, most people will look at the name and think it's garbage
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19:55 kaadmy or just another broken MC clone
19:55 everamzah you've seen the thread about bundling multiple sub-games?  i just think the games ought to reside in separate packages.  and that minimal is enough.
19:56 kaadmy i agree
19:56 everamzah there's also a "nominate a subgame" thread about which subgame should come bundled with minetest
19:56 kaadmy and nothing has been done about bundling subgames since what, 2014?
19:57 everamzah do you know sgtmarkiv?
19:57 kaadmy brutal doom?
19:57 everamzah lol
19:57 kaadmy i play it a lot
19:57 everamzah very popular mod, very unpopular mod author
19:57 kaadmy yep
19:57 kaadmy heard a couple days ago on reddit that apperantly he's an asshole
19:57 everamzah lol
19:57 kaadmy ^ sry for the lang
19:58 everamzah i just remember on zdoom forum when some1 said they were gonna do themselves in, and he replied with information on where to order a body bag
19:58 everamzah ok i'm done offtopicing *doot de doo*
20:03 kaadmy <offtopic> does anybody here play doom?
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20:05 kaeza [on] yes, kinda
20:06 kaeza Doom 3 counts, right?
20:06 kaadmy i was thinking of doom 1/2 ;)
20:08 Thomas-S bye
20:09 kaeza My Ultimate (Final?) Doom CD broke long ago, so don't have the original WADs anymore
20:09 kaadmy i just play the free stuff
20:09 kaadmy shareware/freedoom
20:09 Calinou kaadmy, I do using Doomsday
20:09 Calinou it supports FreeDM since recently
20:09 kaadmy ^ i has can use grammer
20:09 kaeza me two
20:09 kaadmy doomsday runs too slow for me
20:10 kaadmy i use zandronum, play mostly online
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20:10 kaadmy i like the siege/invasion mods
20:10 kaadmy stronghold/shotgun frenzy/complex doom
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20:20 Calinou kaadmy, I got a basic networked UDP game working… but it has no prediction, doesn't handle more than 1 client and doesn't like it when a client disconnects and reconnects :)
20:20 JBB I had trouble to install the irc mod, debian couldnd find the packet luasicket, so u zsed luarocks bzt i still get errors.  Can somebody help me?
20:20 Calinou [insert "it's something" meme here]
20:21 sfan5 JBB: https://packages.debian.org/de/sid/lua-socket
20:22 JBB Oh thank you, i will look there..
20:22 * kaeza meows at sfan5
20:23 kaadmy ouch, if i bundle mt on itch.io, i can't provide builds
20:23 kaadmy linux builds*
20:23 * sfan5 meows at kaeza
20:23 Calinou kaadmy, I am on KTX FFA nisse on QuakeWorld
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20:23 kaadmy Calinou: ok
20:23 Calinou taking a break from coding :p
20:25 kaadmy btw calinou, do you play QWTF?
20:27 Calinou nope
20:36 Fixer from google search: "Das bisherige Landesvermessungsamt und die bisherige Hauptvermessungsabteilung"
20:36 Fixer lol, that's why I did not learn that language
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22:04 kaadmy est31: fixed your issue
22:07 est31 thx
22:07 kaadmy yw
22:07 est31 really nice game btw, like it.
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22:34 DI3HARD139 ~seen crazyginger72
22:34 ShadowBot DI3HARD139: I haven't seen crazyginger72 in #minetest.
22:35 est31 ~seen est31
22:35 ShadowBot est31: I saw est31 in #minetest 27 minutes and 36 seconds ago saying "really nice game btw, like it."
22:35 est31 works
22:35 DI3HARD139 try this one more time XD
22:35 DI3HARD139 ~seen crazyginger72
22:35 ShadowBot DI3HARD139: I haven't seen crazyginger72 in #minetest.
22:35 DI3HARD139 nope... eh oh well
22:36 DI3HARD139 ~seen cg72
22:36 ShadowBot DI3HARD139: I haven't seen cg72 in #minetest.
22:36 DI3HARD139 anyways... back to the mods
22:36 fireglow all the mods
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22:49 halo hi
22:51 DI3HARD139 hi
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23:20 Megaf Soni, I'm connected to the internet using 2G,
23:20 Megaf That's fun, reminds me of the old Dial Up connections
23:20 Soni uhh
23:21 Soni do I know you?
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23:23 Megaf Sockbat, well, maybe you do
23:23 Megaf Soni, I mean
23:23 Megaf !server Megaf
23:23 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/11, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.13-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 7ms
23:23 Megaf Soni, I have the Minetest Server and I join this channel for about 3 years
23:23 Megaf s/the/that
23:23 Megaf s/join/have been joining
23:24 Megaf Soni, ah, sorry, my IRC client completed your nick because I typed so + ","
23:24 Megaf I apologize
23:25 Soni .-.
23:25 Megaf sofar, this is a test
23:25 Megaf lol
23:25 Megaf I have to fix that
23:26 Megaf so, this is a test
23:26 * kaadmy hears a loud and constant pinging sound
23:26 Megaf there
23:26 Megaf kaadmy, there
23:26 Megaf lol
23:26 Megaf sofar, Soni, again, I apologize, it won't happen again :)
23:27 Megaf how are you both anyway? Here in Dublin thins are good and specially warm for this time of the year, it was 14C this afternoon and now at 23:27 it still 12C when usually it should be around 2 ~ 8 and maybe snowing
23:28 Soni you could say I'm a bit busy...
23:31 rubenwardy MinetestBot, ping
23:31 Megaf MinetestBot, ping
23:33 OldCoder rubenwardy, hello
23:33 rubenwardy Hi
23:34 rubenwardy I'm supposed to have been given MinetestBot messages
23:34 Megaf !ping
23:34 Megaf rubenwardy, timed out
23:34 Megaf !tell Megaf pong
23:34 MinetestBot You can tell that to yourself
23:34 rubenwardy But MTB has failed yet again :'(
23:37 rubenwardy Fixer, Ronsor, sfan5: http://minetest.rubenwardy.com/stats
23:38 Fixer rubenwardy, thanks
23:38 * Fixer >_> 0.4.11, unknown
23:39 Fixer android
23:39 Fixer jeez, people are mazo these days
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23:39 rubenwardy That info is collect from my nginx server serving remote media
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23:44 Ronsor illegal ios?
23:45 kaadmy iOS has no official MT apps
23:46 rubenwardy That's incorrect actually: you can download it from elsewhere and it be legal
23:46 rubenwardy It's just the App Store apps that are illegal
23:47 Ronsor oh
23:47 Ronsor why is the App Store illegal?
23:47 rubenwardy That's a seven day sample, btw
23:47 rubenwardy We use a GNU (L)GPL license
23:47 rubenwardy the app store is not compatible with that
23:47 rubenwardy !g GNU GPL Apple App Store
23:47 MinetestBot rubenwardy: http://apple.stackexchange.com/que​stions/6109/is-it-possible-to-have​-gpl-software-in-the-mac-app-store
23:48 Fixer rubenwardy, wonder how many actual individual players
23:48 Ronsor oh well, i'll still publish an 'illegal' app anyways lolll
23:48 Ronsor its not like someone will sue me
23:49 Fixer apple is anal
23:49 rubenwardy Ronsor, you're kind of violating our rights though
23:49 rubenwardy So, gtfo
23:49 rubenwardy red-001: https://github.com/rubenwar​dy/NodeBoxEditor/issues/80
23:49 Ronsor oh yeah i'll just break the apple agreement too
23:51 Ronsor i need my jailbreak
23:53 Ronsor it's not a big deal
23:54 Fritigern That's not or you to decide
23:54 Ronsor 2dtest, my 2d-version of minetest, ii can distribute
23:54 Ronsor *for
23:54 Fritigern Sure, as long as you use a compatible licens
23:54 rubenwardy Fritigern? Who was that too?
23:55 Fritigern Ruben, that was to Ronsor
23:55 rubenwardy ok
23:55 * Fritigern is surprized it even cause confusion
23:55 rubenwardy Was checking
23:56 Ronsor if you can't impose restrictions, who said anything about restricting? without apple its still possible to sideload an app, and distribute it, and other things
23:57 rubenwardy The app store imposes restrictions. You can still make iOS ports, you just can't legally put them on the app store.
23:57 rubenwardy afaik
23:57 Ronsor what if i reimplemented minetest from scratch?
23:58 est31 then it would work
23:58 rubenwardy Then there won't be any problems...
23:58 rubenwardy Copyright doesn't work on ideas
23:58 rubenwardy it works on tangible things
23:59 Ronsor i'll just get back to my terraria ripoff
23:59 sofar "cleanroom implementations" are perfectly legal
23:59 est31 we could go the VLC player way and re-license under dual MPL and GPL
23:59 rubenwardy As long as you don't copy code, it's fine
23:59 est31 but mt has >200 contributors
23:59 Ronsor yeah

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