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03:25 ssieb VanessaE: On my 0.4.13 server, I have your plantlife modpack installed (along with many others).  However, we haven't been able to find any cotton plants around.  Should there be?  Is there any other way to make string or get cotton seeds?
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03:38 RealBadAngel ssieb, dig some jungle grass to get seeds
03:38 ssieb jungle grass gives cotton seeds?
03:38 RealBadAngel as far as i remember
03:39 ssieb ok, thank you.   That's what I was missing :-)
03:39 ssieb I knew regular grass gives wheat seeds
03:39 RealBadAngel http://wiki.minetest.net/Cotton_Seed
03:40 ssieb of course... :-/
03:40 ssieb always check the wiki first!
03:49 sofar dig some dirt to get potatoes
03:49 sofar (only if you have 'crops' installed ;))
03:49 ssieb I don't have that one
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05:07 MinetestBot [git] RealBadAngel -> minetest/minetest: Fix texture tear issue 52eea79 https://git.io/vzw9n (2016-01-23T06:01:57+01:00)
05:07 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Fix C++11 compilability e50c784 https://git.io/vzw9c (2016-01-23T05:45:29+01:00)
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05:24 HighTechGamingNe CWZ, are you on here?
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07:39 YuGiOhJCJ hello, that's strange I was sure to have an account on https://forum.minetest.net/ but that's not the case. Is it possible that my account has been removed?
07:41 sofar unlikely
07:42 YuGiOhJCJ OK so I (re-)create one :p
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08:23 Thomas-S hi
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12:13 * Fixer celebrates texture tear merge!
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12:21 RealBadAngel :)
12:21 RealBadAngel that was really long living bug
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12:49 Megaf RealBadAngel, which one?
12:50 Obani xD
12:50 Megaf I will be right back
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12:51 RealBadAngel Megaf, texture tear. wield glitch was also here for a long time
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13:16 red-001 how does the whole texture combine thing work?
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13:29 RealBadAngel https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=47&t=11558
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13:47 Fixer RealBadAngel, I've reproduced it at least since 0.4.5 iirc (but I think it was since earliest times)
13:49 Fixer RealBadAngel, same with buggly liquids and stutters (that was since 0.3)
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14:34 H-H-H ok guys and gals im looking at mod stores for minetest anyone got any links about whats around, what works what doesnt etc etc
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14:35 farooghkz hi
14:35 farooghkz i have problem with carbone-ng
14:35 farooghkz im using minetest 0.4.9
14:35 farooghkz debug.txt is here:
14:35 farooghkz http://codepad.org/q6anpr9K
14:37 ElectronLibre Update MT.
14:37 everamzah "You need a recent Minetest version to play Carbone NG, check out the Builds section of the forum for up-to-date builds."
14:37 everamzah https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9033 <-- regular carbone
14:37 ElectronLibre It's trying to use a method in the API that was introduced in version 0.4.12 (or 0.4.13).
14:37 farooghkz forum?
14:37 farooghkz forum.minetest.net?
14:37 everamzah i'll find u a link
14:38 everamzah https://github.com/calinou/carbone/
14:38 everamzah how is github?
14:39 farooghkz i downloaded carbone-ng from github
14:40 ElectronLibre farooghkz, if you are looking for a way of updating Minetest, look around there : http://www.minetest.net/downloads/
14:40 ElectronLibre And there is also a PPA repository you can add to download nightly builds of the game engine.
14:41 farooghkz echo hi
14:41 everamzah hi
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14:45 farooghkz everamzah, i downloaded carbone-ng from github.is there any problem with that?
14:45 Obani farooghkz, no
14:45 Obani farooghkz, but this means you have the last release of Carbone
14:45 Obani which needs a recent release of Minetest
14:46 Obani Your version is old of more than a year
14:48 H-H-H carbone-ng != minetest
14:49 Obani why should it be ?
14:49 farooghkz here the lastest version is 0.4.9
14:49 farooghkz http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/minetest
14:49 farooghkz where i can get 0.4.13
14:50 Obani farooghkz, you have ubuntu ?
14:50 Obani farooghkz, download this https://github.com/minetest/minetest/
14:50 farooghkz Obani, yes
14:50 Obani and then execute this script https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=42&amp;t=3837
14:51 farooghkz and lastest version in packages.ubuntu.com is 0.4.9
14:51 farooghkz ok
14:53 farooghkz ok
14:54 Calinou everamzah, Carbone ≠ Carbone NG
14:54 Calinou https://github.com/Calinou/carbone-ng
14:54 Calinou is where to get Carbone NG
14:55 farooghkz i got carbone-ng already.should i get again?
14:55 Calinou no, but you need Minetest 0.4.13 to run Carbone NG
14:56 Calinou the best way to get it is to build from source, it's not that hard :)
14:56 farooghkz im trying to download
14:56 Calinou we may eventually release generic GNU/Linux builds when we figure it out
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14:56 Calinou possibly using AppImage
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14:57 farooghkz build from source?i think its slow and hard for me.
14:58 farooghkz Calinou, i think u r one of developers.right?
14:59 red-001 ahhhh
14:59 Megaf Taoki, Did you use to play on my server?
14:59 Megaf !server Megaf
14:59 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 2/11, 2/8 | Version: 0.4.13-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 7ms
14:59 red-001 megaf whats your server?
14:59 Calinou farooghkz, I'm a contributor :p
14:59 Megaf red-001, that
15:00 Calinou farooghkz, try https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=42&amp;t=3837
15:00 Calinou very easy, you just have to copy-paste the script in your terminal.
15:00 red-001 can someone link me to how uv maps in blender work?
15:00 Calinou red-001, #blender :)
15:01 Megaf Taoki, never mind, a player name Toki played there
15:02 farooghkz Calinou, u r saying i should download src and then run that script?
15:08 Calinou farooghkz, no, only run the script
15:10 Taoki Megaf: I don't remember all servers by memory, but possibly
15:14 Megaf Taoki, well, feel free to visit us, you can ask Gronx, Jessch8281, sin, Megaf, Sofia, Hamza568, shadowzone or LforLeeeeeeeX for interact
15:19 Taoki ok :) Thanks.
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15:29 JBB1 I startet to host a server on mx pc, but it can't be on at night, so want to host the server on a banana PI. Do you think that works well for ca. 15 people?
15:32 Ronsor how much ram?
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15:35 MinetestBot [git] sofar -> minetest/minetest: Backface culling: Ignore setting in tiledef from old servers. 735e3b7 https://git.io/vzrlC (2016-01-23T16:33:24+01:00)
15:35 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Fix compilation warning if compiling for android with c++11 ef779b0 https://git.io/vzrlW (2016-01-23T06:26:58+01:00)
15:38 JBB1 the banana po have got 1 GB
15:39 JBB1 banana pi
15:39 Ronsor ok
15:39 Ronsor that should work
15:39 JBB1 ok cool!
15:39 JBB1 It is as small as a computer mouse
15:40 JBB1 and its hust 50€
15:40 JBB1 and dont needs much energy
15:40 JBB1 so it can run all the tiime
15:41 Calinou it is possible to host 15 players on 1 GB of RAM, but it'll be tight
15:41 Ronsor i've run 6 players in 200mb of ram left on the server
15:41 Ronsor it actually wasn't swapping or anything
15:41 Ronsor it was just laggier because of the other stuff running
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15:44 Ronsor hi SG
15:44 SG hey ronsor
15:45 SG lunovox has been chasing me around different minetest servers since i met him on craigydavi's server back in september
15:46 Ronsor why is he chasing you?
15:46 SG he's obsessed with me
15:46 Ronsor oh lol
15:46 SG he followed me on chaos612's server, the capture the flag server, the ultimate hardcore survival server and more
15:47 SG he's the one who keeps spamming the chat with "SG" while I'm there
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17:25 * Fixer .oO(haaardcoore vibes!)
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17:35 bighacker hi.can i use carbone-ng 0.4.9 with mt 0.4.9?
17:35 kaadmy afaik no
17:35 kaadmy works with 0.4.13
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17:37 farooghkz can i use carbone-ng and mt 0.4.9?
17:37 Ronsor why do you want 0.4.9
17:37 Ronsor EGETWITHTHETIMES
17:37 VanessaE 0.4.9 is horribly obsolete
17:38 farooghkz i want use carbone-ng 0.4.9 and mt 0.4.9.till i can get newser ver. of mt
17:38 VanessaE you already can.
17:39 VanessaE there are releases on minetest.net
17:39 edj kaadmy: Your subgame is awesome, thanks so much for making it
17:39 VanessaE or compile it yourself
17:39 edj kaadmy: My daughter and I are playing it now
17:39 farooghkz ok
17:40 VanessaE farooghkz: basically, don't expect hardly anything worthwhile to work on 0.4.9
17:40 VanessaE most modders don't target versions that old
17:40 Ronsor i dont
17:40 VanessaE nor do I.
17:40 Ronsor i dont care about anything older than 0.4.12
17:40 farooghkz what?explain
17:41 VanessaE farooghkz: each new version of minetest brings new features with it that mods and sub-games use, including carbone.
17:41 VanessaE features that are either difficult, useless, or impossible to mimic with older minetest
17:41 VanessaE so game authors generally look at current minetest when writing their code
17:41 everamzah if you insist on using an older minetest, you may well be limited to older mods only
17:42 farooghkz ok
17:42 farooghkz i think still there r more mobs than mc
17:43 VanessaE simple mods or subgames that just add a bunch of idle nodes will probably work on even older versions than 0.4.9, but carbone is not, as far as I know, such a thing :)
17:45 farooghkz ok i have older things with older versions.
17:45 farooghkz can u compare mt 0.4.9 and 0.4.13?
17:45 Ronsor yeah
17:46 Ronsor farooghkz: check the changelog
17:47 farooghkz ok
17:47 farooghkz and another question
17:48 farooghkz i want compare mt and mc.what is different?
17:48 Ronsor oh
17:48 everamzah never played it
17:48 Ronsor mt = lua moding api, not proprietary, less users (gotta be honest)
17:48 Ronsor mt += written in c++
17:49 farooghkz never played minecraft
17:49 Ronsor mc = no modding api, proprietary, most popular, resource hog
17:49 Ronsor mc += written in java
17:49 Ronsor mt uses less resources
17:50 farooghkz different in gameplay
17:50 everamzah minetest is a game engine
17:50 everamzah you can make any gameplay you desire
17:50 everamzah so the difference is vast, to say the least
17:50 Ronsor yeah
17:51 Ronsor downsides: no client side mods like minecraft, so i had to patch the engine
17:52 farooghkz thanks and bye4now
17:53 farooghkz going to browse internet about them :]
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18:18 Fixer lol, people still use 0.4.9?
18:18 Fixer this is crazy
18:19 * Fixer slaps ... ah rubenwardy is not here
18:19 Fixer he has some new stats about client versions
18:20 sfan5 new stats?
18:20 sfan5 from where?
18:24 Fixer from his CTF server
18:24 Ronsor lol
18:24 Fixer ah here it is http://minetest.rubenwardy.com/stats/
18:24 Ronsor i use 0.4.13-dev
18:24 Fixer crap, version/OS graphs are broken
18:24 Fixer !tell rubenwardy your version/OS graphs are broken (http://minetest.rubenwardy.com/stats/) :)
18:24 MinetestBot Fixer: I'll pass that on when rubenwardy is around
18:25 Ronsor yeah
18:25 Ronsor they are
18:25 Fixer what i remember things were baaad
18:25 Fixer there are lots of 0.4.11, 0.4.12...
18:25 Fixer 0.4.13  is like 30% or so %)
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18:37 Fixer Calinou, is there smth new Xonotic in graphic aspect? why on earth it crashes my video driver?
18:43 Calinou Fixer, no, Xonotic's renderer didn't change for a long time (if ever)
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19:44 Ronsor a reachout to all server owners: more is less, don't put more than ~5 mods on
19:44 Ronsor it will make stuff lag and take longer to load
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20:17 fireglow can somebody recommend a mod that lets players respawn at their bones after they die? Or at least log the death coordinates?
20:21 everamzah Ronsor: I think you mean "less is more"!  While I agree with you, I think it depends entirely on the nature of the server, and the players themselves.
20:22 everamzah i feel that a good method is to start with a minimal setup, and then use the feedback players provide, as well as your own needs, to add further content.
20:22 everamzah if a populated server is what you desire, the fewer mods the better, i say!  but, with no mods, it will become boring fast.
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21:09 Ronsor hi
21:09 Ronsor everamzah: yeah less is more
21:09 Ronsor i restarted my server "Ronsor" with just carts, and signs mod
21:10 Thomas-S bye
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21:22 everamzah Ronsor: subtract carts, add xdecor
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22:01 MinetestBot [git] ShadowNinja -> Uberi/Minetest-WorldEdit: Fix crash when loading version 3 schematics f2f714c https://git.io/vzrbP (2016-01-23T16:57:27-05:00)
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22:46 edj Anyone here ever have a problem where you can no longer move (w, a, s, d, spacebar, etc.)?
22:46 edj My daughter get weirdly stuck.   No matte where we tp her, she's can't move.
22:46 edj She can even dig blocks under her and she is still hovering like magic.
22:47 edj get weirdly = got weirdly
22:53 edj Oh wow, my daughter figured out the weirdest fix ever
22:53 edj I put a bed in front of her, she slept in it, and voila, she could move again
22:54 kaadmy yeah
22:55 kaadmy and try moving when you get in a bed ;)
22:55 kaadmy ^ you can move in beds if you disconnect/rejoin
22:55 kaadmy <edj> My daughter get weirdly stuck.   No matte where we tp her, she's can't move.
22:56 kaadmy reconnect fixes it
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23:11 edj kaadmy: In our case reconnecting did not help
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23:21 kaadmy edj: are you using my subgame?
23:21 kaadmy ^ pixture?
23:21 kaadmy because that has bugs with how beds work
23:34 edj kaadmy: Yes
23:34 edj kaadmy: GREAT subgame!  Thanks for making it!
23:34 edj Now that we know the bed trick, it's no big deal
23:45 kaadmy and moving while getting into beds will cause problems
23:45 kaadmy and require changing some world files to fix afaik
23:48 H-H-H ooo a subgame? do we have a link pls
23:51 Megaf edj, all servers or only one server? or only single player with that subgame
23:52 H-H-H nvm a link i found it and am d/l now
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23:55 H-H-H o wow dont hit a villager lol they get mad

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