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Time Nick Message
00:00 xfceKris Seems okay from here.
00:03 xfceKris Gah, I have some severe lag issues on Dan's Carbone Server.
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00:28 DoYouSketch2 ok, I found out what the prob was.  my laptop was trying to connect to the neighbors wifi guest acc't
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01:02 MinetestBot [git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: connection: Make assertions non-fatal for received data 3183d5a http://git.io/vODtk (2015-08-05T21:01:13-04:00)
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01:07 DoYouSketch2 hey VanessaE you around?
01:08 VanessaE hey
01:08 DoYouSketch2 there's a fake stormchaser-3000 on skyblock
01:08 VanessaE actually that might be him.. I asked him to come look at my house :)
01:09 DoYouSketch2 oh, ok cool
01:09 cornernote whats the IP:port ?  i wouldnt mind checking some other servers
01:09 DoYouSketch2 is there a travelnet to it?
01:09 VanessaE DoYouSketch2: yes, but just from Sokomine's island
01:09 VanessaE cornernote: umm....
01:09 VanessaE stormchaser3000.noip.me port 30001
01:10 DoYouSketch2 w_e put one in, so I can get there
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01:11 DoYouSketch2 can you meet me at island-hopper and show me the way?
01:12 VanessaE island hopper?
01:12 VanessaE er...um...
01:12 DoYouSketch2 Soko's place
01:13 VanessaE the upstairs isn't furnished yet
01:13 MinetestBot [git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: Improve Script CPP API diagnostics bcf47bc http://git.io/vODmo (2015-08-05T21:13:03-04:00)
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01:40 hmmmm VanessaE:  ^^
01:40 hmmmm update your server
01:40 hmmmm next time you get a not enough memory error we'll be able to tell a bit more about it
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01:47 VanessaE ok
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02:05 kaeza !tell
02:05 MinetestBot kaeza: Need a nickname...
02:06 kaeza !tell sfan5 Do you have the code for sfan5-bot (the forum crawler) around?
02:06 MinetestBot kaeza: I'll pass that on when sfan5 is around
02:06 Viper !tell kaeza hello
02:06 MinetestBot Viper: I'll pass that on when kaeza is around
02:06 aerth !tell Viper cool
02:06 MinetestBot aerth: I'll pass that on when Viper is around
02:07 aerth !tell aerth hows this work
02:07 MinetestBot You can tell that to yourself
02:07 Viper i miss something? what is cool :-D
02:07 kaeza but please, no bot abuse, ok? :)
02:07 Viper kaeza:  i just want to show you
02:07 Viper but looks as its broken
02:08 kaeza show me what?
02:08 Viper nothing
02:08 aerth kaeza: would u mind if i added some stuff to xban like a hostname resolver
02:08 kaeza alright
02:08 kaeza also, Greetings
02:09 aerth maybe a geolocation mod derivitave
02:09 Viper what about minimap?
02:10 kaeza aerth, if it's not too "heavy", it would be OK; otherwise, it's probably better to use the xban API from a separate mod
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02:10 aerth cool
02:10 aerth ipgeni.com json curl
02:10 kaeza by "heavy" I mean no `popen` or sockets
02:11 kaeza optional native libs are OK
02:11 aerth gotcha
02:12 kaeza actually, I think it is out of scope for the mod itself, so better use API from separate mod
02:13 aerth yeah sounds like it. i'm going to make it a text db to later geomap
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03:49 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Initialize random for verification key generation too 49cf66d http://git.io/vODHR (2015-08-06T05:48:07+02:00)
04:12 MinetestBot [git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: Fix critical vulnerabilities and bugs with NetworkPacket bd0b469 http://git.io/vODFu (2015-08-06T00:10:57-04:00)
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04:17 swift110-phone Hey
04:17 swift110-phone Hey
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04:18 hello_ try to down zip was empit,
04:19 swift110-phone Ok
04:19 VanessaE well that was just about useless.
04:30 swift110-phone Hey vanessaE how r u
04:32 VanessaE I'm ok
04:39 cornernote anyone who plays skyblock, i'm looking for feedback on this - should death go back to level 1 - https://github.com/cornernote​/minetest-skyblock/issues/35
04:40 DoYouSketch2 there's only 4 lvls, so it's not a biggie
04:40 DoYouSketch2 I kinda like it as-is
04:42 DoYouSketch2 I know there's a craft-guide in there, but a lotta people don't get how to craft a sapling
04:42 kahrl well, it's consistent with video games: people play much longer and harder games with permadeath
04:42 kahrl but that doesn't necessarily mean it should be done in skyblock
04:42 kahrl perhaps add it as an optional "hardcore" challenge
04:43 DoYouSketch2 I think I'd be happy if gravity weren't so sudden
04:43 DoYouSketch2 so block-lag didn't kill you so quickly while building bridges
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04:53 cornernote thanks guys, i added the chatter to the issue so i can make a decision
04:53 cornernote feel free to update the issue with any comments
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05:22 hoodedice ayyy late night irc
05:23 hoodedice tfw no one
05:25 TheMiner cloud are you here?
05:27 DoYouSketch2 oh, cornernote, you still on?
05:31 DoYouSketch2 I know it's kindof a per-server decision, but I wish your skyblock game had shared chests
05:31 DoYouSketch2 I think it comes from something like more-chests mod
05:32 hoodedice I would think shared chests would take up a huge ton of server resources
05:32 DoYouSketch2 don't need the entire mod.  just the shared chests.  it would make collaboration so much better
05:33 hoodedice hmmm, I used to use open chests for collabs
05:33 hoodedice it worked well enough
05:33 DoYouSketch2 people are too prone to steal in skyblock
05:33 DoYouSketch2 and it really helps to team up
05:34 hoodedice until Xanadu reset and I never played on any other minetest server ever again (except this creative city building one, and I got bored of that because creative)
05:36 hoodedice although, I must think that cornernote is kind of a lurker, he doesn't say much nowadays
05:37 DoYouSketch2 is dyslexic.  I get that way a lot
05:37 hoodedice ...what
05:37 DoYouSketch2 get frustrated with talking / typing.
05:37 hoodedice how do you know >_>
05:38 DoYouSketch2 no, I am
05:38 hoodedice how did you manage it? You type well
05:38 DoYouSketch2 'cuz you don't see how many thousands of times I hit backspace
05:39 DoYouSketch2 I hit it about a doz times on the last sentence
05:39 hoodedice but you still spell things the right way?
05:39 DoYouSketch2 xchat underlines errors
05:39 swift110-phone Lol
05:39 hoodedice ah
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05:44 DoYouSketch2 gonna do the sleep thing.  night
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05:59 amadin How to change HUD background color?
05:59 amadin in inventory plus mod
05:59 amadin developer of this mod don't know
06:05 DoYouSketch2 I think you can change background with unified-inventory - https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=11&t=12767
06:05 kaeza amadin, look at item_names.lua:21 and waypoints.lua:3
06:05 amadin I can't use this mod, i use inventory plus
06:05 kaeza ah background you mean...
06:06 DoYouSketch2 ok, well you can still look at the source and see how it was accomplished
06:06 amadin i find information about change background image but it not work for me
06:06 amadin in source code of inventory plus no colors
06:06 kaeza well, it is not possible to change HUD background color with the current engine
06:07 kaeza there is no "background" at all
06:07 amadin o_O
06:07 kaeza unless by "HUD" you mean something different
06:07 amadin but it is black now
06:07 hoodedice ohayo kaeza
06:07 hoodedice nice night, eh?
06:07 amadin in in invenory plus it is black color
06:08 kaeza it is an ice with hood!
06:08 hoodedice do you mean the formspec background?
06:08 kaeza hey hoodedice
06:08 hoodedice *a block of ice that happens to wear a hood
06:08 amadin button "i" in game
06:08 hoodedice ah, you mean the formspec background
06:09 hoodedice when you press i, the inventory that pops up is called a "formspec" in the modding api
06:09 kaeza hoodedice, 60km winds, enough rain to flood the country, about 5C. "nice night" :(
06:10 hoodedice d'aw, where you at?
06:10 kaeza S America
06:10 hoodedice good luck man
06:10 hoodedice still having the internets is a nice sign
06:10 kaeza amen to that
06:11 hoodedice now you can stream the ongoing storm to your mobile devices as well! *evil laugh*
06:11 hoodedice (sorry)
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06:12 cornernote big thanks to OldCoder who has just provided all the text for the home page of Skyblock - http://cornernote.github.io/minetest-skyblock/
06:12 hoodedice oy corner =)
06:13 DoYouSketch2 lines 28, 32, and 36 - formspec's with background image specified = https://github.com/minetest-technic/uni​fied_inventory/blob/master/internal.lua
06:13 DoYouSketch2 that's how it's done
06:13 hoodedice amadin, see the link above
06:13 hoodedice > click on RCT in Start screen
06:14 hoodedice > tfw RCT 2 is full screen and works properly
06:14 hoodedice > tfw i realise it is RCT 3
06:14 hoodedice where have all the 4:3 screens gone =(
06:15 kaeza Calinou ate them
06:15 kaeza he isn't here :(
06:15 hoodedice now I fail to recall which RCT I actually played, 1 or 2
06:16 kaeza RCT?
06:16 hoodedice RollerCoaster Tycoon
06:16 hoodedice and it was 1. I actually had to open one up to find out which
06:17 amadin hoodedice thanks
06:17 hoodedice thank DoYouSketch2 actually
06:17 hoodedice =)
06:17 hoodedice !next
06:17 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
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06:38 ThatGraemeGuy greetingses
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07:01 MinetestBot [git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: Fix BufferedPacket race condition (fixes #2983) 8560ece http://git.io/vOyuS (2015-08-06T02:25:35-04:00)
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07:11 OldCoder cornernote, ty
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07:14 wilkgr Hullo.
07:14 * wilkgr has a small problem, a big one actually
07:14 wilkgr A few days ago I created a world, and played it
07:15 wilkgr But today I can't access it, the log pastebin is as follows: http://pastebin.com/GAhGncYD
07:15 wilkgr I'm using Mesecons, Pipeworks & Unified Inventory
07:15 wilkgr Can anyone help?
07:16 wilkgr (And if I don't respond, for ½hour, I blame my connection!)
07:16 MinetestBot [git] gregorycu -> minetest/minetest: Fix detection of sneaking node 5c3c965 http://git.io/vOyaG (2015-08-06T03:14:56-04:00)
07:24 hmmmm hi wilkgr, what version of minetest are you using?
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07:28 DoYouSketch2 try adding    debug_log_level = 4    to your minetest.conf
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08:07 est31 aerth, good you are here
08:07 est31 you had this error in auth.txt
08:07 est31 have you previously edited auth.txt?
08:07 est31 its possible that your editor has cut the long lines off, kate does these things
08:09 wilkgr hmmmm 0.4.12-dev
08:09 wilkgr est31 never edited auth.txt
08:10 hmmmm wilkgr, which build did you use?
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08:22 rubenwardy surface dungeons are cool
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08:40 cornernote how to check if a mod is installed?
08:40 cornernote i just do like....  if unified_inventory then ... end
08:40 cornernote but it gives Undeclared global variable "unified_inventory" accessed at
08:41 DoYouSketch2 I'm trying to think of a mod that does that
08:42 DoYouSketch2 Id be able to tell you, but I'm terribly sleep deprived
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08:44 DoYouSketch2 line 27 - https://github.com/VanessaE/p​ipeworks/blob/master/init.lua
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08:53 wilkgr hmmmm Krock's
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08:54 wilkgr Just wondering, would the .dmp file help?
08:54 wilkgr I can upload that somewhere
08:54 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Fresh Breath Day! 😃
08:54 wilkgr Good evening James
08:55 JamesTait 👋 wilkgr
08:56 wilkgr Yes James?
08:58 JamesTait Good evening, wilkgr. ☺
09:04 kaeza cornernote, if minetest.get_modpath("foo") then ...
09:05 kaeza nvm, reading scrollback :I
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09:45 sfan5 ayy
09:45 sfan5 aw shit
09:45 sfan5 !tell no longer seems to work
09:45 hoodedice w0t
09:45 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload tell
09:45 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'tell' from '/home/sfan5/mtbot/modules/tell.py'> (version: 2015-07-02 08:52:59)
09:45 sfan5 .
09:45 MinetestBot sfan5: 08-06 02:06 UTC <kaeza> Do you have the code for sfan5-bot (the forum crawler) around?
09:45 sfan5 .
09:45 sfan5 ok
09:46 sfan5 !tell kaeza yes i do https://gist.github.com/sfan5/4642453
09:46 MinetestBot sfan5: yeah, sure, whatever
09:47 hoodedice >_>
09:47 hoodedice still snarky
09:47 mazal cheeky bot
09:47 wilkgr lol
09:47 hoodedice !rainbow ayyy lmao
09:47 MinetestBot 4ay7yy8 l3mao
09:47 wilkgr How?
09:47 * wilkgr is dumbstruck
09:47 hoodedice magic
09:47 sfan5 ^
09:47 wilkgr Yeah right
09:48 sfan5 !rainbow * wilkgr is dumbstruck
09:48 MinetestBot 4* w7ilk8gr 3is dum6bstruc4k
09:48 wilkgr !rainbow I know how to copy & modify commands!
09:48 MinetestBot 4I kn7ow h8ow t3o copy &6 modify 4comm7ands8!
09:48 wilkgr Oh god, that's unreadable nearly
09:48 sfan5 looks fine here
09:48 kaeza sfan5, thank you
09:48 MinetestBot kaeza: 08-06 02:06 UTC <Viper> hello
09:48 wilkgr They ellow
09:48 kaeza lel
09:48 MinetestBot kaeza: 08-06 09:46 UTC <sfan5> yes i do https://gist.github.com/sfan5/4642453
09:49 wilkgr * The yellow
09:49 kaeza MinetestBot!
09:49 MinetestBot kaeza!
09:49 sfan5 kaeza: as long as im here you don't need to use !tell
09:50 kaeza !tell sfan5, k
09:50 MinetestBot kaeza: I'll pass that on when sfan5, is around
09:50 kaeza :3
09:50 sfan5 >sfan5,
09:50 kaeza also, mornings
09:50 sfan5 *sigh*
09:50 kaeza blah
09:50 kaeza hexchat adding commans
09:50 kaeza >commans
09:50 sfan5 >8|kaeza|sfan5,|k|1438854603
09:51 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload tell
09:51 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'tell' from '/home/sfan5/mtbot/modules/tell.py'> (version: 2015-07-02 08:52:59)
09:51 hoodedice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
09:52 hoodedice !title
09:52 MinetestBot hoodedice: What do you love?
09:53 hoodedice Everyone's watching the kittehs on that link >_>
09:53 wilkgr What link?
09:53 wilkgr !rainbow Huh?
09:53 MinetestBot 4H7u8h3?
09:53 hoodedice the one I just posted >_>
09:54 wilkgr !rev !aH
09:54 MinetestBot Ha!
09:54 wilkgr Whoops
09:54 wilkgr !rev !hA
09:54 MinetestBot Ah!
09:57 hoodedice !g C++ vs java
09:57 MinetestBot hoodedice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/​Comparison_of_Java_and_C%2B%2B
09:57 hoodedice bah
09:58 hoodedice !g who is the cutest
09:58 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://whoisthecutest.com/
09:58 hoodedice !g best open source voxel game ever
09:58 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://voxeljs.com/
09:58 hoodedice bahahaha
09:58 wilkgr black sheep
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09:59 wilkgr brb
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09:59 hoodedice get rekt minetest, google thinks voxeljs is the best open source voxel game ever
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10:04 wilkgr lol - reading the docs.
10:04 wilkgr !next
10:04 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
10:04 wilkgr lol
10:05 wilkgr Just a question - what's the purpose of !tell [nick] [message] if everyone can see it anyways?
10:05 sfan5 if you want to tell somebody who is not there currently something you can use !tell
10:05 wilkgr ohhh
10:05 wilkgr Thanks!
10:06 sfan5 !tell is not supposed to replace /msg
10:06 MinetestBot sfan5: I'll pass that on when is is around
10:06 sfan5 .-.
10:06 wilkgr oh god...
10:06 wilkgr Hang on a sec....
10:06 wilkgr I'll log in as is.
10:06 Calinou you can use memos to do it privately, they need to have a NickServ account though
10:06 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload tell
10:06 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'tell' from '/home/sfan5/mtbot/modules/tell.py'> (version: 2015-07-02 08:52:59)
10:06 Calinou /ms send nick message
10:06 sfan5 > DELETE FROM TELL WHERE id = 8;
10:06 sfan5 problem solved
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10:07 hoodedice > sql
10:07 is "This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>. "
10:07 is Someone actually registered it... lol
10:07 hoodedice > two letter nickname
10:07 sfan5 not a surprise
10:07 wilkgr yeah
10:07 wilkgr still
10:08 wilkgr "* is has joined"
10:08 hoodedice > kiwiirc
10:08 hoodedice pls
10:08 hoodedice use hexchat.
10:08 wilkgr Yep, hexchat isn't working
10:08 wilkgr for me
10:08 hoodedice windows?
10:08 ThatGraemeGuy skyblock coal mining: http://i.imgur.com/RBla3X1.png
10:08 hoodedice GG.
10:08 wilkgr "Connection failed ((336031996) error:140770FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown protocol)"
10:09 hoodedice update hexchat
10:09 wilkgr It used to work though...
10:09 wilkgr Do you think
10:09 wilkgr that
10:09 hoodedice you probably need to update it.
10:09 wilkgr !rainbow mIRC
10:09 MinetestBot 4m7I8R3C
10:09 wilkgr is good?
10:09 hoodedice I used xchat and hexchat, and they both are pretty good.
10:09 wilkgr I've been eyeing it for a couple days now...
10:10 hoodedice but no really
10:10 hoodedice update hexchat - that message is because you are using an outdated SSL
10:10 hoodedice (I think)
10:10 sfan5 >ssl 2 or 3
10:10 wilkgr "[20:10:31] Update Checker You have the latest version of HexChat installed!"
10:11 hoodedice why not both?
10:11 hoodedice 23!!!
10:11 hoodedice I have 2.10.2
10:11 sfan5 hey me too
10:12 hoodedice you missed the chance to use "two"
10:12 hoodedice skrub
10:12 wilkgr gtg
10:12 wilkgr Anyway, bye for now
10:13 wilkgr Nice being here again - one of the best chatrooms, even for offtopic stuff
10:13 wilkgr !rainbow Bye!!
10:13 MinetestBot 4B7y8e3!!
10:13 hoodedice kkk
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10:14 hoodedice ayy lmao <away reason>
10:17 hoodedice http://www.wdyl.com/#minetest
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10:36 wilkgr hoodedice, the update did work after all.
10:40 * VanessaE peeks in
10:42 * wilkgr says bye
10:42 wilkgr !rainbow adios
10:42 MinetestBot 4a7d8i3os
10:42 wilkgr !rainbow adios amigos!
10:42 MinetestBot 4adi7os 8ami3gos!
10:42 VanessaE er..  good morning? :P
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10:48 mazal Hi VanessaE , the dreambuilder_game clone from git works now thank you
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11:03 VanessaE no prob mazal
11:04 VanessaE sorry about that glitch
11:05 mazal np
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16:53 turtleman_ well this sucks :|
16:53 turtleman_ skyblock crashed when i placed a bunch of gravel
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17:01 hmmmm the mod crashed, or did minetest crash?
17:03 xenkey Mod crashed minetest :P
17:05 turtleman_ well
17:05 turtleman_ the program went to the main menu
17:05 hmmmm ahh okay
17:06 hmmmm did it happen to say something along the lines of, "error in error handler"?
17:06 hmmmm by any chance
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17:11 twoelk did the gravel "fall"?
17:12 turtleman_ yes
17:12 turtleman_ i will check the error message
17:12 turtleman_ attempt to index local 'digger' (a nil value)
17:13 turtleman_ thats not the full message, but it was the only thing that stood out
17:13 turtleman_ ill get it later
17:13 turtleman_ the gravel fell
17:14 * twoelk wonders how much a bunch of gravel might be
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17:16 turtleman_ 20 gravel
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17:16 turtleman_ just for example
17:16 turtleman_ it might have been more or less than 20
17:16 turtleman_ ill try again. im busy starting my game over :P
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18:12 Thron NICK tHEmINER
18:14 DoYouSketch2 oh is that the trick to changing your name?
18:14 DoYouSketch2 NICK sKETCH2
18:14 CWz lol failer
18:14 * DoYouSketch2 has no idea how to do xChat
18:14 CWz hello TheMiner
18:14 CWz /nick
18:14 DoYouSketch2 I used to
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18:48 freelikegnu Gael-de-Sailly: your valleysmg is really nice, I tried it last night.
18:49 freelikegnu the caves are a welcome addition
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19:15 xfceKris Okay, so, what's the best method for complete removal of minetest from my system?
19:16 xfceKris I'm doing a complete re-installation and I'm going to use the run-in-place installation from this link https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=42&amp;t=3837
19:16 xfceKris Trying to clean things up a bit.
19:16 xfceKris Should I just delete the minetest folder in my home directory?
19:17 Calinou sudo make uninstall
19:17 Calinou and delete ~/.minetest
19:17 Calinou (warning: this deletes all your worlds, mods, texture packs!)
19:17 xfceKris (I'm backing up all that already ;)
19:18 xfceKris sudo make uninstall minetest will do the trick then? Have to cd into the directory?
19:19 Calinou nope
19:19 Calinou if you're using run-in-place you don't have to use sudo make uninstall
19:19 Calinou it's only for system-wide installation
19:19 Calinou just delete ~/your_minetest_folder
19:19 Calinou there should be no ~/.minetest in run-in-place
19:19 xfceKris I'm not using run-in-place yet.
19:20 xfceKris That's what I'm moving to. For a cleaner installation (IMO)
19:20 xfceKris so just run sudo make uninstall minetest.
19:22 xfceKris I'm just waiting for my texture packs to finish copying now.
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19:24 xfceKris sudo make uninstall minetest returns this: make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.
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19:24 xenkey deinstall
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19:25 xfceKris returns the same
19:27 xenkey remove
19:29 sfan5 !g cmake make uninstall
19:29 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ
19:29 sfan5 xfceKris: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_FAQ#Can_I_do_.22make_uninstall.22_with_CMake.3F
19:31 xfceKris That's ridiculous for a simple removal
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19:33 cimbakahn Where is the newest craft guide with the craft PC for single player?
19:33 xfceKris Instead of creating an uninstall target UNIX users could enter this command in the shell: xargs rm < install_manifest.txt
19:34 xfceKris ^^^I'm thinking this is me.
19:34 xenkey that works
19:34 xfceKris Can't hurt to try.
19:34 xenkey actually it can
19:34 xenkey but it won't in this case
19:35 xfceKris Permission denied. Sudo time.
19:35 xenkey tip: use "sudo !!" to execute the last command with sudo
19:36 xfceKris linux protip ftw
19:36 xfceKris Thanks
19:36 xenkey Very welcome sir
19:37 xfceKris Doesn't appear to have done anything except remove a whole bunch of stuff from the install_manifest.txt.
19:37 xfceKris now run uninstall?
19:37 sfan5 no
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19:37 cimbakahn Don't you think this is a little old ----> Wed Jul 11, 2012 15:17
19:37 sfan5 xargs rm < install_manifext.txt should remove all the files installed by make install
19:37 sfan5 !mod craftguide
19:37 MinetestBot sfan5: Could not find anything.
19:37 sfan5 !mod craft_guide
19:37 MinetestBot sfan5: Craft Guide [craft_guide] - Shows crafts for all loaded mods. by cornernote - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=2334
19:37 cimbakahn https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2334
19:38 sfan5 ^ cimbakahn does this help
19:38 cimbakahn Just a sec.
19:40 cimbakahn That is where i was just at.  The date is:  Wed Jul 11, 2012 15:17
19:41 xfceKris I see what it did now. It removed all the embedded files in my system files and folders. Now I should just be able to delete the ~/minetest and ~/.minetest folders, then reinstall.
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19:43 cimbakahn That is 3 years old.  Is there a newer craft guide with the craft PC for single player?
19:43 xfceKris !mod Unified_Inventory
19:43 MinetestBot xfceKris: Skins for unified_inventory [u_skins] by Krock - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9807
19:43 xfceKris Okay...I didn't say skins.
19:44 xfceKris !mod unified_inventory
19:44 MinetestBot xfceKris: Skins for unified_inventory [u_skins] by Krock - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9807
19:44 sfan5 !g craft guide site:forum.minetest.net
19:44 MinetestBot sfan5: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2334
19:44 sfan5 hm
19:45 xfceKris nvm. just google unified inventory cimbakahn
19:45 cimbakahn ok
19:45 xfceKris It's VanessaE's mod and she updates her stuff pretty regularly.
19:45 xfceKris Has a crafting guide built in.
19:45 cimbakahn ok
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19:46 xfceKris Okay, back later. Waiting for re-installation while I pack.
19:46 VanessaE xfceKris: no, actually it's RBA's mod
19:46 VanessaE I just contribute to it.
19:47 xfceKris Oh, my bad.
19:47 VanessaE no worries.
19:47 xfceKris I'm just used to seeing your name on so many mods.
19:47 xfceKris Anyway. See you guys later
19:49 cimbakahn I googled "unified inventory".  Which link is it?  The first one, or the second?
19:49 Sketch2 with there was a MinetestBot or ShadowBot in game.
19:49 Sketch2 *wish
19:49 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3933
19:49 VanessaE this one.
19:49 cimbakahn ok
19:50 Sketch2 so many people ask "how do make cobble" or something to that effect.
19:50 Gael-de-Sailly freelikegnu : I just see that you talked about valleys mapgen
19:50 Sketch2 if it sees "how" followed by an item, it could give the recipe
19:50 Sketch2 that would be fantastic.
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19:53 cimbakahn That page reads OLD MODS.  I want the newest craft guide with the craft PC for single player.
19:54 cimbakahn See above on the stripe at the top?
20:02 cimbakahn Is this the page that you ment ----> https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=12767
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20:04 freelikegnu Gael-de-Sailly: indeed, beautiful work.
20:05 freelikegnu I'm running it on a server with carbone-ng and a current build
20:07 Gael-de-Sailly which server ?
20:07 Gael-de-Sailly I'm interested :)
20:07 Gael-de-Sailly does it work well with carbone ?
20:08 VanessaE cimbakahn: regarding "old" mods, ignore that.  I'll move the topic back to mod releases.
20:08 freelikegnu freelikegnu.org:30000
20:09 freelikegnu seems fine so far
20:09 VanessaE there. fixed.
20:09 cimbakahn ok
20:09 VanessaE (that page I linked you to IS the current code, it just got moved for some reason a while back)
20:10 cimbakahn What about this page ----> https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=12767
20:10 VanessaE oh THAT's right
20:10 VanessaE I had to split the topic because of a forum bug
20:10 VanessaE both point to the same repository so it doesn't matter which one you use
20:11 freelikegnu tenplus1 mobs redo is in there too
20:11 * VanessaE moves the topic back to "old"
20:11 cimbakahn Thank you VanessaE!
20:11 VanessaE yw
20:12 cimbakahn VanessaE: I took your advice and installed the newest minetest from that page you gave me.
20:12 VanessaE good deal
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20:12 VanessaE keep it up-to-date.  0.4.13-release is fast approaching
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20:13 freelikegnu wb Gael-de-Sailly
20:13 cimbakahn 0.4.12-dev
20:13 cimbakahn ok
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20:25 freelikegnu I should probably turn of the db synch
20:25 freelikegnu 1 cpu is maxed and getting player moved to fast messages
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20:29 Gael-de-Sailly I'm playing your server
20:29 Gael-de-Sailly For the mapgen it seems to work
20:29 Gael-de-Sailly except that I'm sometimes moved strangely
20:30 cimbakahn VanessaE: How long do you think it will be til 0.4.13-release comes out?
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20:37 VanessaE cimbakahn: if it's on schedule, about 4 days.
20:38 VanessaE if not, well, it'll be ready when its ready ;)
20:38 cimbakahn ok
20:40 freelikegnu Gael-de-Sailly: yeah I see the player moved to fast messages come up
20:42 freelikegnu currenly using the default sqlite db and sync is on
20:42 VanessaE that's the anti-cheat code
20:42 freelikegnu oh?
20:42 VanessaE it's a function of network lag really.
20:42 freelikegnu interesting
20:42 VanessaE too much lag can trick the anti-cheat code into announcing a cheat.
20:42 VanessaE "player moved too fast" is one such
20:43 freelikegnu so its prolly not that the cpu is maxed? :D
20:43 VanessaE that can happen too, but if the server is otherwise responsive, then no.
20:43 freelikegnu I have plenty of RAM at least
20:45 freelikegnu its on a vps that has plenty of bandwidth and I don tthink there should be much latency
20:45 VanessaE you'd be surprised. :)
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20:45 VanessaE VPSs aren't dedicated CPU/network/disk so you have to compete with other users on the same machine
20:46 freelikegnu if this in any indication: --- google.com ping statistics ---
20:46 freelikegnu 13 packets transmitted, 13 received, 0% packet loss, time 12001ms
20:46 freelikegnu rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.475/0.553/0.663/0.051 ms
20:46 VanessaE average
20:46 freelikegnu thats me pinging google from the server terminal
20:46 VanessaE :)
20:47 freelikegnu linod box in texas
20:48 VanessaE linode is okay.
20:48 VanessaE I used to use them a while back
20:48 VanessaE at the time, they...well...weren't so good :-/
20:48 VanessaE but I understand they've gotten better.
20:49 freelikegnu here is to google.de rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.498/0.592/0.686/0.074 ms
20:49 freelikegnu I like em well enough
20:55 sfan5 VanessaE: the whole disk isn't dedicated, but a part of it is
20:55 VanessaE sfan5: I mean in terms of disk I/O
20:55 VanessaE rather than storage
20:56 Gael-de-Sailly it seems that the problem only happen on mapgen
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21:03 WSDguy2014 Guys, i have problem, in release candidate build 0.4.13 have still glitched Wield items, not glitched blocks. Can Help me?
21:03 VanessaE be more specific
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21:03 VanessaE "glitch" how?
21:04 VanessaE (I think I know what you're referring to, and if so, I don't think it'll be fixed by release time)
21:05 WSDguy2014 this glitched wield items apreard on 0.4.11
21:05 WSDguy2014 in release candidate build 0.4.13 have still glitched wield items
21:05 VanessaE screenshot please
21:06 WSDguy2014 look at glitched wield item screenshot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3016
21:07 VanessaE that's what I thought you meant.
21:07 VanessaE I don't think that'll be fixed before the release.
21:07 VanessaE it doesn't happen to everyone
21:07 WSDguy2014 i have OpenGL 3.1.0
21:07 WSDguy2014 im playing on OpenGL 3.1.0
21:08 VanessaE kahrl:  ^^^^^^^
21:09 WSDguy2014 this one glitched wield item apeard on 0.4.11 -----> ttps://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2350
21:09 WSDguy2014 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2350
21:10 WSDguy2014 wield items are looks bad. Please, fix this damn glitched wield item.
21:10 VanessaE update your OS or drivers first, if you can.
21:10 VanessaE opengl 3.x is very old
21:11 WSDguy2014 i have Windows 7
21:11 WSDguy2014 how i do upgrade OpenGL latest version?
21:11 VanessaE beats me, I don't do windows :PO
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21:19 VanessaE kahrl: the polys created for the extrude mesh.... are they perfect quads/tris?  or are there concave ngons in there? because that glitch looks an awful lot like what minetest/irrlicht do with ngons that aren't totally convex
21:20 VanessaE (it acts as though it's skipping the vertexes in the concave area and just cutting straight across the diagonal)
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21:49 OldCoder /opt/minebest/src/core/server​/minetest/src/server.cpp:505:
21:49 OldCoder void Server::step(float): A fatal error occurred: error in error handling
21:49 OldCoder Does anybody know what this is?
21:49 OldCoder VanessaE, ?
21:50 OldCoder RealBadAngel, Sokomine ?
21:50 OldCoder Originating in: void ItemStack::deSerialize(std::istream&,
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21:55 VanessaE no idea, OldCoder, but the devs were discussing it yesterday
21:55 VanessaE I don't remember what the disposition was though
21:57 cornernote OldCoder, it looks like this - https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3011
21:58 OldCoder VanessaE, so known issue?
21:58 OldCoder cornernote, R
21:58 OldCoder cornernote, it's recurring; I'll need to shut down the world if no fix
21:58 cornernote a reported issue, still no confirmed fix
21:58 OldCoder Does the traceback help? Hold on
21:59 OldCoder void ItemStack::deSerialize(std::istream&,
21:59 OldCoder bool getCraftingResult(Inventory*,
21:59 OldCoder void Server::UpdateCrafting(Player*))
21:59 OldCoder void RemoteClient::GetNextBlocks(ServerEnvironment*,
21:59 OldCoder void Server::SendBlocks(float))
21:59 OldCoder
21:59 cornernote yeah, i believe its caused by minetest.on_craft()
21:59 OldCoder Possibly in your server step code?
21:59 cornernote in the feat tracking code
22:00 OldCoder Hm
22:00 OldCoder I don't suppose a delay or something there would help
22:00 OldCoder Looking there
22:01 cornernote i dont think so
22:01 cornernote i cant see the problem in my code, and minetest is tripping on something (sometimes) but its not telling me what, because there is an error in the error handling
22:02 OldCoder I don't see that call
22:02 OldCoder where is it?
22:02 cornernote https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-skyblock/bl​ob/master/skyblock_levels/skyblock.feats.lua#L145
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22:03 OldCoder In there now
22:04 OldCoder Could add debug statements
22:07 Breballlove VanessaE!!! Hi :3
22:08 VanessaE hi.
22:09 OldCoder cornernote, VanessaE; suggestions for debugging?
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22:09 OldCoder I could patch the C++ code
22:09 VanessaE I got nuthin', man :)
22:09 Breballlove VanessaE someone with ur name like u join on ur server joined mine way that the real u ?
22:09 VanessaE Breballlove: that was probably me, yes.
22:10 VanessaE went to the wrong skyblock server.
22:10 Breballlove Ok I am glad or i would have banned them.
22:10 Breballlove Btw are u op on here?
22:11 VanessaE Iam.
22:11 Breballlove ok :3
22:13 Breballlove can u help me figure out how to have chan serv stay when others join my channel?
22:13 OldCoder cornernote, VanessaE do we even know where the error message comes from at the C++ level?
22:13 OldCoder Breballlove, that is pretty easy...
22:13 VanessaE OldCoder: I have no idea at all.
22:13 Breballlove How oldCoder?
22:13 OldCoder /msg ChanServ set ##channel guard on
22:13 OldCoder Similar to that I think, wait
22:13 Breballlove thx
22:13 OldCoder Checking
22:15 OldCoder Breballlove, that appears to be correct
22:15 OldCoder Indicate if you have problems
22:16 Breballlove yes that worked thx
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22:48 Sketch2 OldCoder, I think amadin was having a similar prob the other night
22:49 Sketch2 'cuz I remember thinking how funny "error in error handing" was
22:49 Sketch2 he asked :  Does anybody can help me with crash server? http://fpaste.org/251711/74859143/
22:53 VanessaE "error in error handling" reminds me of those generic "404, page not found, and we got a 404 while trying to show you the custom 404 page" errors :P
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22:56 OldCoder Sketch2, yes, thanks. I've had to take down the new world
22:56 OldCoder After the crashes, people are losing everything. We can't have that.
22:56 OldCoder It will return if a fix is found.
22:57 cornernote any reason a formspec wont be displayed via a command?  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3017
22:58 aerth I have been seeing the same error (error in error handling , SendAccessDenied_Legacy) btw
22:59 Sketch2 I was trying to ask if he could turn up his logging to 4, but I think he rage-quit
23:00 Sketch2 that mighta been something else.  was wondering if there was a mod that did it
23:01 Sketch2 it might help if we knew what mods were running on all the servers that this has happened to
23:02 Sketch2 so we can try to pin down exactly which mod might be causing it
23:02 aerth SendAccessDenied sounds like xban2 and getCraftingResult(Inventory*, sounds like an inventory mod
23:02 Sketch2 if it isn't a mod, it might be harder to spot
23:03 Sketch2 I was thinking it just sends the AccessDenied to everybody to shut the server down
23:03 Sketch2 that or someone sending a malformed packet to the server
23:04 Breballlove VanessaE
23:04 VanessaE hm?
23:05 aerth running a "sudo tcpdump port 30000 > ./debugdump.log" may help with debuggin
23:05 Breballlove Johnsen is over causeing trouble i just logged ona and he otherd me I am calm but need an admin
23:05 Breballlove will yo help?
23:06 Breballlove you
23:08 aerth actually the command is "sudo tcpdump -vv port 30003 > debugdump.log", run that in a "screen -S dump"
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23:08 aerth to get detailed packet info
23:08 Breballlove jump EviolPlayz is over on a server bothering me telling every one i faked him on ur server and got him banned
23:19 Sketch2 ok, so it says it finds a double-fault error in luaentity_GetStaticdata
23:19 Sketch2 I'm seeing that in 3 files:    content_sao.cpp    s_entity.h    s_entity.cpp
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23:29 Sketch2 are you running git?
23:30 Sketch2 I'm looking at line 143 and thereabouts - https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blo​b/master/src/script/cpp_api/s_entity.cpp
23:31 Sketch2 well, 122 - 149
23:32 Sketch2 it calls the errorhandler at 142 then removes the object at 143
23:32 Sketch2 that's what you say is going on?
23:32 Sketch2 Items are getting lost?
23:33 Sketch2 it was just modified a couple days ago.  I wonder if this fixed it, or broke it
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