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00:00 hoodedice I think the camera rotates around an invisible pivot, and if I can decrease a radius between the camera and pivot center
00:00 hoodedice WE CAN HAVE A REALISTIC FIRST PERSON VIEW!!!!
00:00 LemonLake hoodedice: in most cases, the world rotates around the 'camera'
00:00 LemonLake giving it the feel of the camera rotating
00:01 hoodedice Lemon, I think you can cover it up from all sides, except one which is partly covered, with a measuring aid on that side
00:01 hoodedice Why is it closed on top?
00:01 Hirato_ boy, a lot of lava sure came out of that tank ;)
00:01 LemonLake this is literally a super simple framed_glass design
00:01 LemonLake glasslike_framed*
00:01 hoodedice Also, if that were so, why doesn't the world rotate when others look around in multiplayer?
00:02 LemonLake hoodedice: because it's clientside, duh?
00:03 hoodedice lua modding is serverside... hmm...
00:03 hoodedice Let me see if I can make anything out of the camera src
00:05 LemonLake hoodedice: ill fiddle around with the textures on the tank, maybe
00:06 LemonLake problem is, nobody has used this new glasslike_framed so it's difficult to find things on it
00:08 LemonLake hoodedice: thinking about it, param2 is used so there's no rotation
00:08 LemonLake a gauge would be useless
00:08 hoodedice rotation?
00:08 LemonLake well, covers and a gauge
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00:08 LemonLake may as well have the whole thing glass
00:09 hoodedice I don't know much about node modification, so thisis beyond me
00:09 hoodedice In fact, I still suck at lua mods
00:09 LemonLake then why are you messing in the c++?
00:09 hoodedice Because
00:09 hoodedice Hypothesis
00:10 hoodedice I found out that lua mod side allowed for camera manips
00:10 hoodedice But the C++ code limited it. I removed the limitation
00:10 hoodedice Now I find that this moves the camera and pivot point relative to player
00:11 LemonLake okay, texture 3 is top + bottom face
00:11 LemonLake i can probably add a little square that you put the liquids into, actually
00:11 hoodedice So, I need to find how the camera actually moves in minetest (As you said that it could be moving the world instead of camera)
00:11 hoodedice And then find a way to reduce the pivot distance
00:12 LemonLake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soBzmWnaRik
00:12 LemonLake tanks ^.^
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00:14 hoodedice Amount of water it fills seems unrealistic
00:14 LemonLake yeah, probably gonna make it fill less.
00:15 LemonLake i.e. 8 buckets per tank
00:15 hoodedice Well, I'll just say that the bucket is a thumbtack
00:15 hoodedice Or whatever you call that tiny thing that sewers wear
00:15 hoodedice *tailors
00:16 LemonLake okay, im happy with this tank design
00:17 hoodedice most MT devs are prolly sleeping...
00:17 LemonLake they sleep this early?
00:17 hoodedice > Europeans
00:17 LemonLake im in the uk, anyway
00:18 LemonLake quite early here xD
00:18 hoodedice I would imagine it to be either 8 or 9 pm
00:18 hoodedice And most of them are Germans, and/or Finnish
00:18 hoodedice SO a further 1 hour
00:18 LemonLake America is ~8pm
00:18 LemonLake in the UK it is 1 AM
00:18 hoodedice 7:20, CST.
00:18 LemonLake So in Europe it is 2 AM
00:18 hoodedice -.-
00:18 hoodedice 2 AM is early. -.-
00:19 LemonLake yep :P
00:19 hoodedice Well, not everyone is nocturnal.
00:19 LemonLake I'm a night owl.
00:19 LemonLake So I usually stay awake around this time because I get more owrk done
00:19 LemonLake work done*
00:19 hoodedice That's why neither you nor I are core devs =P
00:19 LemonLake lol :P
00:19 LemonLake I'm not confident enough to work on a team
00:20 LemonLake Plus, I don't understand the codebase.
00:20 hoodedice I don't know C++
00:20 hoodedice Not even lua
00:20 LemonLake I know fair C+
00:20 hoodedice Does such a thing even exist?
00:20 hoodedice "C+"
00:20 LemonLake C++*
00:20 LemonLake Tanks update: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/iukAn2u8GWps.png
00:20 LemonLake do they look better now?
00:21 hoodedice ya
00:23 LemonLake I think the water tank will hold 16 buckets, and the lava tank 8
00:23 LemonLake since lava is a much thicker liquid
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00:29 LemonLake whew. that was a nights worth of work
00:29 fireglow nice, LemonLake
00:29 LemonLake quite happy with this update so far. mesecons support, pipeworks autocrafter inbuilt, swappers, fans and storage tanks
00:29 LemonLake plus various bugfixes
00:30 LemonLake also made the crafting recipes less harsh
00:30 fireglow can you fill them up all the way? I'm thinking about decoration here
00:30 LemonLake of course
00:30 LemonLake they dont take as much liquid as shown anymore
00:32 hoodedice Wow, you even supported so many mods!
00:32 LemonLake pipeworks already worked with it
00:32 LemonLake just people were too nooby to add it themselves, so i did it for them
00:32 LemonLake it was a simple config change
00:33 LemonLake fireglow: http://i.imgur.com/cDy3RD3.png
00:33 LemonLake (mediacrush is borked again)
00:36 fireglow LemonLake: nice!!
00:36 fireglow I love it
00:37 hoodedice Lemon, I realise that this will indeed take a huge rewrite
00:37 * hoodedice goes back to lua.
00:44 LemonLake okay, im going to hit sleep
00:44 hoodedice bye
00:44 LemonLake got some good work done today
00:44 LemonLake goodnight!
00:55 alket any option to return to first position when i started world , I'm lost , can't go back :p
00:58 hoodedice hmm, alket did you type /grant singleplayer all
00:58 hoodedice ever?
00:58 alket no
00:58 hoodedice If you didn't do that now
00:58 ShadowNinja alket: Do you remember what your position was?  If not, look in debug.txt for lines like "alket digs default:dirt at (1,2,3)" and /teleport to there.
00:58 alket thanks
00:58 hoodedice once done, type /teleport 0,0,0
00:58 alket really , this is cool :0
00:58 alket thanks
00:59 ShadowNinja alket: And /sethome for next time.  :-)
00:59 hoodedice Shadow, I think he needs to go origin(?)
00:59 alket thanks
00:59 hoodedice ./sethome is default now?
00:59 hoodedice wow.
00:59 ShadowNinja hoodedice: You usually spawn near origin, but you can be a few hundred nodes out.
00:59 ShadowNinja hoodedice: Yep, was added to _game in the _NeXt merge.
01:08 fireglow how do I disable TNT?
01:08 fireglow on a server
01:09 Zeno` just delete the directory
01:10 fireglow I'll create a empty tnt/init.lua
01:10 Zeno` or do that, deleting the directory will work as well
01:10 fireglow ok, cheers
01:11 fireglow phew, I had forgotten to disable it
01:11 fireglow luckily no damage done
01:20 alket how to own land in servers ?
01:20 alket /sethome doesn't owkr
01:22 alket figured it out :)
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02:06 uint Hello everybody. When I started minetest in Ubuntu GNOME 14.04, text was not displayed. Places where should display text like "Singleplayer", "Multiplayer" were all blank.
02:06 uint The following is messages in the terminal
02:06 uint Irrlicht Engine version 1.8.1
02:07 uint Linux 3.13.0-31-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 1 15:51:53 UTC 2014 x86_64
02:07 uint Using renderer: OpenGL 3.0
02:07 uint Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV710: X.Org
02:07 uint OpenGL driver version is 1.2 or better.
02:07 uint GLSL version: 1.3
02:07 uint 10:04:53: ERROR[main]: WARNING: Font file was not found. Using default font.
02:07 uint Loaded texture: /usr/share/games/minetest/games​/minetest_game/menu/header.png
02:07 uint Loaded texture: /usr/share/games/minetest/game​s/minetest_game/menu/icon.png
02:07 uint Loaded texture: /usr/share/games/minetest/g​ames/minimal/menu/icon.png
02:07 uint Loaded texture: /usr/share/games/minetest/games​/minetest_game/menu/header.png
02:08 uint And several seconds after program started, segment fault occurred
02:14 * Partmedia had a few bus errors like that, too
02:14 Partmedia but now it disappeared :(
02:35 AnotherBrick I remember there was a discussion about bundling different games into minetest. like Next, nodetest, carbon etc. Did they abandon that idea?
02:36 Vazon Next was merged in to Minetest_game but other wise no further input was added
02:42 AnotherBrick next merged into minetest_game? guess that's where tnt came from..
02:43 AnotherBrick does that mean that minetest_game isn't frozen for mew features?
02:43 AnotherBrick s/mew/new
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06:10 nman3600 hi
06:13 VanessaE hi
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06:20 nman3600 I've been watching a new anime :)
06:21 nman3600 OldCoder, When's the next time mark's server will be up?
06:21 OldCoder Hi
06:22 OldCoder Isn't it up now?
06:22 OldCoder nman3600, ^
06:22 OldCoder Ah
06:22 OldCoder The timeout bug again
06:22 OldCoder nman3600, there is a bug he has had twice in a day now
06:22 nman3600 Haven't seen it on the server list for ages.
06:22 OldCoder The world just says timeout
06:23 OldCoder He needs to speak with the core devs about that
06:23 OldCoder I'll restart it again
06:23 OldCoder But I have no way to fix the bug
06:23 OldCoder Restarting; allow a few minutes
06:24 OldCoder nman3600, restarted
06:24 nman3600 OldCoder, Thanks.
06:24 OldCoder Well, I'd like to fix it permanently
06:25 nman3600 OldCoder, Still not re-added the go_places.
06:25 OldCoder Rephrase
06:25 OldCoder I do not understand
06:26 nman3600 before goto_places bugged out (a while back) There was set places. The updated mod has removed them.
06:27 nman3600 OldCoder, ^
06:27 OldCoder nman3600, I do not understand
06:27 OldCoder What are you referring to?
06:27 nman3600 The goto_places mod on mark's server.
06:28 OldCoder I do not know about this. Please speak with markv.
06:28 nman3600 You updated multitest on mark's server, Thanks OldCoder!
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06:30 OldCoder Um, yw
06:30 nman3600 OldCoder, Could you consider adding a coloured glass mod (That's if mark agrees)
06:30 OldCoder Sure
06:31 nman3600 I want to build a skyscraper but It needs coloured glass for my design
06:31 OldCoder kk
06:31 OldCoder nman3600, the timeout error is serious
06:31 OldCoder It needs to be looked at
06:31 OldCoder Has taken down his world twice in a day
06:32 nman3600 Have you asked VanessaE Or Calinou?
06:32 nman3600 They might know how to fix it.
06:32 OldCoder I do not have the time to research this. It is up to the world owners.
06:32 OldCoder Speak with markv please
06:35 nman3600 I've tried, OldCoder, He's not awake I think.
06:35 OldCoder I meant
06:35 OldCoder when possible
06:35 OldCoder It is not a one-day issue
06:40 Miner_48er VanessaE why do moretrees:fir_leaves_bright not decay?
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06:45 VanessaE Miner_48er: idk, must be a bug
06:46 VanessaE hm, the code looks right.
06:46 Miner_48er I've tested with a 4/21/14 version that didn't decay and on VS they turn to entirites of moretrees:fir_leaves
06:47 VanessaE well apr 21 is old but nothing since then affects those
06:47 VanessaE however,
06:47 VanessaE my code does not drop them as entities
06:48 VanessaE it decays them like the default code does.
06:48 VanessaE or wait
06:49 Miner_48er those where my results on your server
06:49 VanessaE yeah it does
06:49 VanessaE I forgot about that legacy item
06:51 Miner_48er so is that supposed to happen?
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06:52 VanessaE oops
06:52 Miner_48er so is that supposed to happen?
06:52 VanessaE so wait, you're saying they DO decay, but they drop as items instead of just disappearing?
06:52 Miner_48er yes on your server they did
06:52 VanessaE that's normal.
06:52 VanessaE that's how the original conifers mod did it, I wanted to keep the old behavior.
06:53 VanessaE I may actually change the other trees to do the same thing
06:53 VanessaE seeing as how we have auto-expiry and auto-merge of dropped items now
06:54 VanessaE remind me tomorrow (say in 8-10 hours) about this?  I'll try to make it configurable.
06:55 VanessaE (my servers will be configured to drop as items since I have auto-pickup, auto-merge, and auto-expire)
06:56 Miner_48er ok
07:03 VanessaE hm, no..
07:03 VanessaE my code shouldn't be doing that at all now that I look at it
07:03 VanessaE or, it should do it for ALL trees
07:03 VanessaE not just firs
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07:05 * VanessaE tests...
07:10 * VanessaE waits for the placed leaves to decay...
07:11 * nman3600 continues watching anime.
07:13 * nman3600 SCREAMS AT THE BUFFERING
07:13 nman3600 LOAD LOAD BUFFER NOOO NO BUFFERRRRR
07:14 VanessaE well rubber tree and default tree leaves disappear as expected.
07:14 nman3600 Yay.
07:15 VanessaE there go the dark fir "leaves".
07:16 VanessaE ah
07:16 VanessaE bright fir leaves dropped out as an item
07:16 VanessaE ok.
07:16 VanessaE AH
07:17 VanessaE I see why
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07:18 VanessaE Miner_48er: I'll fix it tomorrow.
07:18 VanessaE at least in dreambuilder
07:18 VanessaE I pushed the fix to moretrees just now though
07:26 VanessaE I'm testing the config idea in dreambuilder now.
07:26 VanessaE or rather in moretrees by way of DB.
07:34 LemonLake "However, it will be done before client-side Lua is added,"
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07:34 LemonLake well hey, nore just confirmed that client-sude lua IS comign
07:35 nore client-side Lua is *planned* to come
07:35 LemonLake I can get down with that
07:35 nore and that's one of the things that will have to be done before it is added
07:36 nore but you may have to wait more that a year to get client-side lua
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07:37 LemonLake oh well
07:37 LemonLake at least it's coming
07:38 LemonLake VanessaE: do you have a pipe API?
07:39 VanessaE LemonLake: you mean the steel pipes?  kinda-sorta
07:39 LemonLake actually, it's wtfpl
07:39 VanessaE it's not exactly documented but there are basic functions for autorouting, adding water, and a few others.
07:39 VanessaE but it needs rewritten
07:39 LemonLake would you mind if i...literally copied the pipes for a 'fuel pipe'?
07:39 VanessaE see the new_flow_logic branch
07:39 VanessaE go right ahead
07:39 LemonLake okay, thanks ^.^
07:39 LemonLake gonna credit you
07:39 VanessaE but please use the new_flow_logic branch as your basis
07:40 VanessaE I'd much prefer to see that branch put into use and pipeworks rebased against it in the future
07:40 LemonLake okay
07:40 VanessaE it's much MUCH better than the mainline code, I just don't have time to complete it
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07:45 VanessaE Miner_48er: check moretrees last two commits.  that should fix it.
07:46 VanessaE I'll deploy it to the server in time for the morning restart, hopefully
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08:03 hoodedice hi Krock
08:03 Krock hi hoodedice
08:03 LemonLake whoa
08:03 LemonLake hoodedice: you're still here?
08:03 LemonLake I really didn't get much sleep, in that case...
08:03 hoodedice slept and woke up
08:04 Krock omg,I slept and woke up, too
08:04 Krock :3
08:04 hoodedice 4 hours of sleep
08:04 LemonLake sounds like me
08:04 hoodedice well
08:05 hoodedice I woke up because Religion
08:05 hoodedice can't be like you haha
08:06 * hoodedice killed chat with Religion
08:07 LemonLake still alive
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08:09 reactor Morning!
08:09 reactor Why does minetestserver max out cpu when _I_ join?
08:09 LemonLake because you're a reactor
08:09 hoodedice 3 fucking am
08:09 reactor *sad laughter*
08:09 hoodedice "morning"
08:09 reactor hoodedice: I know that feeling, oh I do.
08:10 reactor I bloody do.
08:10 hoodedice k
08:10 reactor But seriously, I how come? That's the last thing I would expect from client and server of matching version?
08:11 reactor s/ I h/h/
08:11 LemonLake hmm...I think pipe work s now
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08:11 LemonLake just gotta test them
08:12 hoodedice reactor, your own server?
08:12 reactor Yes.
08:12 hoodedice same pc as client?
08:13 reactor Exactly.
08:13 hoodedice same fucking minetest instance?
08:13 hoodedice you son of a gun, you got me good
08:13 reactor Eh?
08:13 reactor Separate processes.
08:13 LemonLake ^
08:13 hoodedice oh, separate...
08:14 LemonLake i would think that would be pretty obvious, actually
08:14 hoodedice well, try joining from another pc...
08:14 hoodedice lemon, not obvious
08:14 LemonLake VanessaE: I think I've got them working
08:14 reactor How would that change it?
08:15 reactor I can see which process eats up resources -- it's clearly the server.
08:15 hoodedice because the latency between your server and client is low
08:16 hoodedice your server processes a lot of your client's requests as compared to those of others
08:16 LemonLake ^ TIL
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08:17 hoodedice thus, your CPU usage goes up, because the connection between your server and client is fast
08:17 hoodedice switching to another PC will increase latency, hence increasing time between requests and lowering CPU usage
08:18 hoodedice this is the long explanation
08:18 hoodedice the short one is: Your CPU is running two fucking instances of minetest
08:18 hoodedice using two PCs will lower the load
08:19 hoodedice I should stop talking to Jordach... I am cussing too much
08:19 sfan5 meow
08:19 MinetestBot sfan5: 07-09 03:55 UTC <hoodedice> "ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: LevelDB error: Corruption: bad block type" crazyR
08:19 sfan5 hi everyone
08:19 MinetestBot sfan5: 07-13 04:30 UTC <hoodedice> hoodedice thanks you for cmake-gui, again
08:20 sfan5 -
08:20 LemonLake ニャー
08:20 MinetestBot LemonLake: 07-12 04:49 UTC <Jordach> https://cdn.mediacru.sh/k45MTACSoKEl.png
08:20 hoodedice lol sfan
08:20 LemonLake u wot mate
08:20 LemonLake ah, sfan5 woke Minetestbot up
08:20 reactor Oh well. That problem has never happened before.
08:20 sfan5 <sfan5> MinetestBot: reload tel
08:20 sfan5 not exactly
08:21 LemonLake !tell Jordach mate that render looks sick
08:21 MinetestBot LemonLake: yeah, yeah
08:21 reactor How is that supposed to suddenly be sending "too fast"?
08:21 hoodedice that first error I sent out by tell is pretty late
08:21 hoodedice reactor, please complain too sfan
08:22 hoodedice when a person is sleepy, they tend to act like drunks
08:22 Zeno` sending too fast? Sounds like bullshit to me
08:23 hoodedice surely, when I see the logs next morning, I would probably contemplate suicide over whatever bullshit I said 5 minutes ago
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08:48 nman3600 Krock, Can I have a link to the newest mini map pic for your server.
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08:49 Krock nman3600, latest server post is alays updated
08:49 nman3600 Krock, Can I have a link.
08:49 LemonLake nman3600: ....
08:49 LemonLake stop being lazy
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08:49 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?f=10
08:49 LemonLake http://i.imgur.com/7KNFRaF.jpg
08:50 LemonLake gosh, nman3600, you really don't know how to look at a forum post, do you?
08:50 CWz I noticed that installers are nolonger being made for stable version of minetest for windows
08:50 nman3600 LemonLake, I do, I just can't be bothered.
08:50 LemonLake hey, i can see our forest on that map :P
08:50 sfan5 LemonLake: >jpg
08:50 sfan5 it burns
08:50 sfan5 it hurts
08:51 sfan5 D:
08:51 LemonLake sfan5: imgur automatically turns the quality to jpg if its a big image
08:51 LemonLake Krocks fault for using imgur, not mine
08:51 sfan5 -> https://mediacru.sh
08:51 sfan5 ah
08:51 sfan5 Krock: pls
08:51 Calinou Fedora 20 boots a few seconds faster than Debian testing in VirtualBox
08:51 Krock xD
08:51 LemonLake Krock: just switch to mediacrush
08:51 Calinou hi
08:51 Calinou LemonLake, if you're registered, the compression limit goes from 1 MB to 5 MB
08:51 Krock nah. good ol' imgur
08:51 Calinou but still, imgur isn't worth using
08:51 LemonLake ^
08:51 Calinou mediacru.sh or lut.im are better (-:
08:52 * sfan5 cites something
08:52 sfan5 'By uploading a file [...] you grant Imgur a non-exclusive, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable worldwide license [...] to display online and in any present or future media, to create derivative works of [...] any such file or content.'
08:52 Calinou <sfan5> LemonLake: >jpg
08:52 Calinou I upload my screenshots in .jpg, much faster
08:52 Calinou .png isn't worth it for game screenshots
08:52 Calinou ~400 KB vs 2 to 4 MB…
08:52 sfan5 .jpg is bad for detailed things
08:52 LemonLake ^
08:52 LemonLake jpg is for photographs.
08:52 LemonLake That's about it
08:53 Calinou the screenshots I post in screenshot thread are all .jpg, nobody seems to really notice the loss of detail due to the size you view them at
08:53 Calinou (but you can click them to enlarge them)
08:53 Calinou if they were all .png, loading time would be awfully long
08:53 LemonLake Calinou trolling: uncompressed jpg
08:53 LemonLake (trollface)
08:53 Calinou (like it already is due to many people using .png :P)
08:53 sfan5 jpg is never uncompressed
08:53 Calinou I use “convert” command, no idea what quality is that
08:53 Calinou probably 90
08:53 sfan5 jpg is for photographs and looks horrible for everything under 85 percent quality
08:54 sfan5 +else
08:54 Calinou I've never thought of uploading a map in .jpg format, but it's a good idea to not make it too long to load
08:54 LemonLake or do it like dynmap
08:54 LemonLake have separate little images and load whats necessary
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08:54 Calinou I have yet to see such a thing
08:55 Calinou it's still bandwidth-consuming to do that
08:55 LemonLake dynmap is generally smart
08:55 LemonLake but yes, bandwidth-consuming
08:55 * sfan5 meows at Guest29043
08:55 * LemonLake growls at Guest29043
08:55 * sfan5 purrs at Guest29043
08:55 * LemonLake claws at Guest29043
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08:58 Calinou what I'd just like to see is a tool to pan-move over the mapper images, that's all
08:58 Calinou and zoom on them easily
08:58 Calinou instead of using in-browser tools which are inconsistent and not so good
08:58 sfan5 leaftlet.js
08:58 LemonLake ^
08:58 sfan5 -t
08:59 LemonLake http://leafletjs.com/
09:00 * whiskers75 meows at sfan5
09:00 * sfan5 meows at whiskers75
09:00 Calinou does it let you scroll over a static image?
09:00 LemonLake i suppose you can combine leaflet with imagemagick
09:00 Calinou can you implement it without PHP (eg. for use with Dropbox)?
09:00 LemonLake chop it up into 16x16 tiles
09:00 LemonLake Calinou: it's javascript.
09:01 LemonLake "Weighing just about 33 KB of JS, it has all the features most developers ever need for online maps."
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09:05 MinetestBot GIT: Novatux commited to minetest/minetest: Fix crash reported here: https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=6&amp;t=9726 24a631e 2014-07-13T11:05:07+02:00 http://git.io/zWl72A
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09:06 PenguinDad Leafleft.js looks good
09:06 PenguinDad -f
09:09 Zeno` https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1418 <-- Why are people writing cpp macros like that? They potentially introduce hard to find bugs. Wrap x in parenthesis
09:09 VanessaE bbl
09:09 MinetestBot VanessaE: 07-11 11:22 UTC <nore> <BlockMen> Looks good to me, except the steel ingot. Why you made it dark and not shiny?
09:09 Zeno` Fair enough it's just a stringify macro, but...
09:09 LemonLake cya VanessaE
09:09 VanessaE um, little late there, miss bot :P
09:09 LemonLake sfan5 made it work again :P
09:10 sfan5 I wish
09:10 LemonLake you somehow did
09:10 sfan5 tell.py is very broken
09:10 sfan5 and I can't find the bug
09:10 sfan5 <sfan5> MinetestBot: reload tell
09:10 sfan5 makes it work again
09:10 LemonLake call in the exterminators then
09:10 LemonLake get them to gas it out
09:10 sfan5 but after some time it breaks again
09:14 Zeno` so much annoys me in this code
09:14 Zeno` I should just settle down
09:14 Zeno` *sigh*
09:18 Zeno` http://codepad.org/Yn1vJoGX
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09:20 Zeno` someday someone will use that macro in a weird way and all hell will break loose
09:22 LemonLake Okay, pipes can successfully take liquid from tanks
09:26 Zeno` http://codepad.org/2VxiUKpU
09:26 reactor Why exactly does it half only the second number, and then add the first one?
09:26 reactor halve*
09:26 Zeno` precedence
09:27 reactor Ah I see, no parentheses.
09:27 Zeno` 2 + 8 / 2 is 2 + 4
09:27 Zeno` yes
09:28 Zeno` it can cause all sorts of problems
09:28 reactor (n) / 2
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09:58 jp test
09:58 LemonLake test
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10:00 PenguinDad chest
10:01 jp @join crasse.inframonde.net
10:02 reactor Good news! It thrashes CPU even when someone else joins.
10:03 reactor This has never happened before, it could handle up to 30 players.
10:05 Zeno` fantastic news :)
10:05 CWz actually that sound more like bad news
10:05 Zeno` cpu is usage if more efficient than 5 or 6 weeks ago though
10:05 Zeno` so... weird
10:06 reactor I'm seeing rollback going mad.
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10:06 reactor It's flooding the log with messages like "16:03:18: INFO[ServerThread]: RollbackManager::reportAction():" for nodes that no one ever touched (the player was just walking on them!)
10:06 Zeno` why is rollback in action?
10:07 * jp slaps Amaz_ around a bit with a large E71-1
10:10 PenguinDad Eww a nokia phone
10:10 reactor Why not?
10:10 reactor There's a nice terminal client for them.
10:12 reactor CWz: "Good news!" was in massive quotes of sarcasm.
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10:13 PenguinDad reactor: I'm not sure if there's a terminal client for this one https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia​/commons/e/ed/Nokia_1200_Macic7_01.jpg
10:13 reactor Heh. I meant Symbian phones.
10:17 crazyR does anyone know if theres a reason the sign formspec dont have location or size's attached to them, they look like this: field[text;;${text}]
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10:17 crazyR yet the wiki states they should have the location and size info before the text
10:18 crazyR before the field name i mean
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10:20 jp exact, i'm on symbian now
10:20 Krock GIT: SmallJoker commited to SmallJoker/noisetest: Add flat areas ccc7002 2014-07-13T12:18:07+02:00 https://github.com/SmallJok​er/noisetest/commit/ccc7002
10:22 PenguinDad Kick Krock she's a unauthorized bot!
10:22 * Krock slaps PenguinDad
10:23 PenguinDad Krock: why?
10:23 Krock Aggressive unauthorized bot
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10:23 MinetestBot Jordach: 07-13 13:21 UTC <LemonLake> mate that render looks sick
10:26 Jordach huh?
10:26 Jordach wtf MinetestBot
10:26 * Jordach is conufused by the date
10:26 LemonLake Jordach: different timezone
10:26 * PenguinDad is confused by the time
10:26 Krock <LemonLake>!tell Jordach mate that render looks sick
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10:28 LemonLake oh hey
10:28 LemonLake look what i found in the factory world: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/29cghz4wigrS.png
10:29 * PenguinDad nyans at LemonLake
10:29 LemonLake PenguinDad: ニャー :P
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10:30 * Jordach stars ctrl+f12 in blender
10:33 sfan5 Jordach: http://meow.minetest.net/tiles/
10:33 LemonLake ah, leaflet?
10:33 sfan5 yes
10:33 LemonLake that's good
10:33 LemonLake do you think you'd be able to enable zooming?
10:33 sfan5 yes
10:33 sfan5 but that would make no sense
10:34 sfan5 it would only be on pixel -> more pixels (of the same color)
10:34 sfan5 ..
10:34 sfan5 minetestmapper could probably be changed to use the top texture of the node
10:35 LemonLake i mean, zoom out.
10:37 Krock http://i.imgur.com/lC5htXn.png
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10:38 Krock sfan5, aagh.. that minetestmapper generates very good maps...
10:39 sfan5 LemonLake: yes, I could enable that
10:39 PenguinDad there's the depressed ice face again \o/
10:40 sfan5 lol
10:40 Krock where?
10:40 PenguinDad sfan5: http://meow.minetest.net/tiles/tile_2_8.png
10:40 PenguinDad ^ Krock
10:40 Krock oh
10:40 Krock :)
10:44 LemonLake god...i really don't know what to add to factory
10:45 Jordach blackjack and hookers
10:45 Krock add some mining machines
10:45 LemonLake mining machines? sounds interesting
10:48 LemonLake okay, that will work then
10:55 Hirato_ hmmm... new release of minetest :O
10:55 Hirato_ changelog:  Removed finite liquid and weather (proller)
10:55 Hirato_ Hmmm... does this mean freeminer's going to gloat about having those? :P
10:57 LemonLake most likely, yes.
10:57 Hirato_ haha
11:00 Hirato_ rofl
11:00 Hirato_ looking at the last few commits
11:01 Hirato_ https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commi​t/2d90aca4ab876e3254f219b1d37f49257556d456 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commi​t/3feece1f2887eda368c0a9e42e3ab26b4b754354 like these too
11:01 Hirato_ it's like he just rage-quit and took all his contributions with him, ahahaha
11:03 Krock it's still possible to revert those changes or to use an older minetest build to have some maths-fun
11:05 Hirato_ I see proller's made a lot of 'race' fixes in freeminer
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11:07 Hirato_ I see sfan5 isn't kirino anymore
11:07 PenguinDad Hirato_: Freeminer making the impossible possible with tons of black magic and segfaults :D
11:07 Hirato_ haha
11:12 crazyR come on guys, he is just trying to make a good game like everyone else. heck minetest gets its fair share of seg faults some times
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11:23 LemonLake Is it wise to store a node owner in metadata?
11:23 LemonLake In order to check if they have permission at an area
11:26 Hirato_ speaking of kirino, I just remembered this image someone posted in my Persona 4 let's play http://i.imgur.com/xINxLal.jpg
11:27 LemonLake dat mousepad
11:27 LemonLake whoa
11:28 LemonLake im gonna watch that anime. now.
11:29 LemonLake and its on animebox <3
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11:30 LemonLake i swear i recognise that voice actor
11:31 Hirato_ ore no imouto isn't a very good animu
11:31 LemonLake Ah
11:31 LemonLake He's the same voice actor for Okazaki in Clannad <3
11:31 LemonLake knew it!
11:32 LemonLake AND corpse party, knew I'd heard that voice before clannad
11:32 LemonLake AND hyouka
11:32 LemonLake dude, this is the voice actor of all my fave animes
11:32 SylvieLorxu That means you have a terrible taste
11:32 LemonLake lol
11:32 LemonLake i do
11:32 Hirato_ ahaha
11:32 Hirato_ boku no pico is great... maybe you could watch it?
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11:33 SylvieLorxu Hirato_: Y u troll LemonLake?
11:33 SylvieLorxu I mean, that's just mean :P
11:33 Hirato_ implying I tone it down for anyone ._>
11:33 SylvieLorxu Although it sounds cute enough...
11:34 SylvieLorxu But knowing basic anime, it's probably not cute
11:34 PenguinDad Hirato_: go take the lemons!
11:34 LemonLake srsly do
11:34 LemonLake i love nakamura's voice
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11:37 sfan5 Hirato_: yes, thats right
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11:41 Hirato_ sfan5: about boku no pico being great?
11:42 sfan5 <Hirato_> I see sfan5 isn't kirino anymore
11:42 Hirato_ haha
11:42 Hirato_ so why ika musume?
11:43 sfan5 because https://cdn.mediacru.sh/_3jOam8IDem7.jpg
11:43 Hirato_ gods
11:53 LemonLake sfan5: you've seen ore no imouto ga konnani kawaii wake ga nai?
11:54 LemonLake thinking about it, long title
11:54 sfan5 yes, I've seen oreimo
11:54 LemonLake how recent is it?
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11:55 sfan5 >Aired: Oct 3, 2010 to Dec 19, 2010
11:55 reactor Woah!
11:55 reactor 17:54 <@reactor> It's totally rollback.
12:01 LemonLake okay thanks
12:06 sfan5 >Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; Long li
12:06 sfan5 ve Windows XP!)
12:06 sfan5 o.O
12:17 SylvieLorxu https://i.4cdn.org/g/1405249136219.png
12:19 Jordach >Jordach >Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:30.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/30.0
12:31 reactor щ?
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13:01 Jordach sfan5, i.imgur.com/okZmdgh.jpg
13:01 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/okZmdgh.jpg
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13:14 sfan5 Jordach: meow
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13:16 * hoodedice suffers from sleeping problems
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13:25 Jordach hoodedice, sleep motherfucker sleep
13:25 Jordach don't make me fly over there
13:26 Jordach https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E--R1n3O_m4
13:27 hoodedice Jordach, 8:30 am
13:28 Jordach http://jamesfriend.com.au/pce-js/pce-js-apps/ WOOOOOOOOOOO
13:28 hoodedice Problem is: I slept from 9 pm to 2 am. Then couldn't sleep afterwards. I can't sleep because I slept enough, but also want to sleep because I might fall asleep at a bad time
13:29 hoodedice Sucks to run that emu on Xubuntu
13:30 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/l0g_q-ezCQBf.png
13:30 Jordach MS Word everybody
13:32 hoodedice I miss Windows 98
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13:35 hoodedice I'm gonna buy a pi
13:35 hoodedice Got my allowance, and a $10 coupon. XD
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13:42 PenguinDad hoodedice: Strawberry es are much better
13:43 hoodedice lmgt
13:43 hoodedice I'm not getting anything relevant (?)
13:44 PenguinDad hoodedice: you don't get the joke do you?
13:44 hoodedice I was not sure if it was a joke.
13:44 sfan5 hoodedice: buy a banana pi
13:44 hoodedice -.-
13:44 hoodedice Is that also a joke?
13:44 sfan5 no
13:45 hoodedice > China.
13:45 hoodedice But raspi is also China anyway
13:45 sfan5 yeah
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13:45 sfan5 soldered in UK, but the CPU is probably from China anyway
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13:46 PenguinDad And if the CPU is not from China it's from another asian country
13:47 hoodedice sfan, $50 for banana pi?
13:47 hoodedice I can't spare that much, I'm getting the pi for $30
13:48 sfan5 lol
13:48 hoodedice What? Spare some pity for a poor college student
13:48 * VanessaE peeks in
13:49 * sfan5 meows at VanessaE
13:49 VanessaE hi
13:49 * hoodedice shuts doors
13:49 * LemonLake reads logs while the intro song plays
13:49 VanessaE meow :)
13:49 sfan5 VanessaE: http://meow.minetest.net/tiles/
13:49 VanessaE sfan5: kick BlockMen's ass for me re: that damn ingot texture, please? :)
13:49 LemonLake why are anime girls always so fucking cute?
13:50 VanessaE hm, nice viewer
13:50 hoodedice VanessaE, I can kick it for you
13:50 sfan5 LemonLake: because moe
13:50 LemonLake sfan5: moe?
13:50 hoodedice Have to discuss camera with him anyway
13:50 VanessaE LemonLake: because the Japanese aren't as uptight as the western world so they're not afraid to make their characters attractive.
13:50 sfan5 !g moe
13:50 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.moe.org/
13:51 sfan5 uhh nope
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13:51 hoodedice "ooh barbie is pretty, this is bad for ugly girls, because they will feel not pretty"
13:51 LemonLake VanessaE: i see
13:51 sfan5 !g moe site:urbandictionary.com
13:51 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=moe
13:51 hoodedice -- 'Muricans.
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13:51 VanessaE hoodedice: more or less, yeah
13:51 hoodedice -- -- My English Lecturer.
13:52 LemonLake ohh
13:52 LemonLake i see
13:52 VanessaE sfan5: small iceberg out to the left in the middle of the water..  looks sad :(
13:52 reactor What is that stupid gag about people saying "kivmi" instead of "give me" in MT?
13:53 reactor "kivmi 99 ammo"
13:53 hoodedice reactor, they are all prolly playing on iPads
13:53 sfan5 VanessaE: <PenguinDad> there's the depressed ice face again \o/
13:53 hoodedice surprise, Minetest on iPad
13:53 hoodedice JK, zwizzing buildcraft
13:53 hoodedice Meowtest, 6 kids, 4 of them using build craft
13:54 reactor Voice recognition?
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13:56 hoodedice http://www.microcenter.com/prod​uct/414588/Raspberry_Pi_Model_B Muricans, go grab a pi if you haven't already, $10 off
13:56 * sfan5 isn't in the US
13:56 VanessaE meh, don't care about much about the RPI
13:57 hoodedice I don't need it... for now
13:57 reactor Now I get it why you people don't like Buildcraft so much. Heh. It brings all kinds of idiots ingame.
13:57 hoodedice ^
13:57 VanessaE reactor: and it's outdated
13:57 VanessaE busted in many ways
13:57 hoodedice Lots of white suburban teenage kids and their iPads, ostly
13:57 hoodedice *mostly
13:57 hoodedice (pun intended)
13:57 LemonLake even japan takes the piss out of amazon for the amount of useless shit they put in their boxes
13:57 reactor From Russian schoolboys who refuse to speak English and kill everyone who doesn't speak Russian to plain imbeciles who can't read.
13:58 hoodedice I actually called out a few kids and explained them that buildcraft is illegal
13:58 hoodedice And that they should ask their parents to download Minetest on Android instead
13:58 sfan5 hoodedice: they don't care
13:58 VanessaE and THIS is why my servers have rules and no PvP (except on the free-for-all server)
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13:58 hoodedice I know, but I did my job
13:58 VanessaE read and fullow the rules or gtfo.
13:58 VanessaE follow*
13:58 reactor Mine have, too. Nobody ever bothers to read them. Eh.
13:59 reactor I had to ban 50 people one day.
13:59 hoodedice reactor, /kick is your friend.
13:59 hoodedice oh, so you befriended /ban
13:59 reactor Dirt houses and spawnkilling, yay \o/
13:59 hoodedice I don't see a problem with dirt houses
13:59 LemonLake ^
13:59 reactor They don't fit in Pripyat.
13:59 hoodedice Thanks Lemons
13:59 LemonLake ?
13:59 hoodedice I hope life gives me more lemons
14:00 reactor It's okay if they were building them _behind_ big buildings.
14:00 hoodedice "<LemonLake> ^"
14:00 sfan5 <reactor> From Russian schoolboys who refuse to speak English and kill everyone who doesn't speak Russian to plain imbeciles who can't read.
14:00 reactor hoodedice: what's the point, you'll have to give them back!
14:00 VanessaE on FFA I made it clear:  no admin support except to deal with abusive/coarse language.  players make and enforce the rules otherwise.
14:00 sfan5 I haven't seen a single kyrillic char. on meowtest yet
14:00 hoodedice " players make and enforce the rules otherwise."
14:00 hoodedice inb4 the following:
14:00 reactor VanessaE: oh I gotta see that! In my place that would lead to anarchy :(
14:00 hoodedice <noob1> Hey give me my stuff back
14:01 hoodedice <noob2> Nooo you dropt it
14:01 VanessaE tough shit. :)
14:01 hoodedice <kid> noob1 stole stuff
14:01 reactor I've tried to give some people extended privileges to ban abusers, only to see them abuse themselves.
14:01 VanessaE sucks to be you if you can't protect your shit
14:01 hoodedice <some guy who wants to make a community out of a server aka me> what?
14:01 VanessaE "no admin support" --> "Griefing reports will not be accepted" (or some words to that effect)
14:02 hoodedice <kid> noob1 stole stuff from noob2
14:02 hoodedice <another guy> I DECLARE WAR!
14:02 hoodedice *everyone jumps on noob1*
14:02 hoodedice Neither noob1 nor noob2 are seen on the server again.
14:02 reactor < sfan5> <reactor> From Russian schoolboys who refuse to speak English and kill everyone who doesn't speak Russian to plain imbeciles who can't read.
14:02 reactor <_<
14:02 reactor Overquoting.
14:10 hoodedice https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=6&amp;t=9747
14:11 hoodedice ^Why am I thinking that the problem is caused by the guy not placing torches...
14:11 reactor < sfan5> I haven't seen a single kyrillic char
14:11 reactor You lucky you!
14:14 PenguinDad hoodedice: I'm thinking the same about that issue
14:16 Jordach ShadowNinja, get your butt into the +i channel
14:17 Jordach just found a bug
14:17 Jordach tl;dr i can at will do /grant Jordach all on the forums
14:18 hoodedice lel
14:19 Jordach Founders cannot be banned, changed by non founders. (includes big perms)
14:20 Jordach back to producing a slight transparency report :P
14:21 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/R7edVK46Hr2C.png
14:22 VanessaE bbl
14:23 hoodedice Avatar directory size = 3 MB
14:23 hoodedice All avatars are just 3 zwizzing MB?!
14:23 hoodedice lol
14:24 reactor That's actually good.
14:24 LemonLake anime logic
14:25 LemonLake > makes up some fancy 'beegle' brand
14:25 LemonLake clearly says 'google/
14:25 reactor Rather than gigabytes of avatars and just a bunch of messages.
14:26 reactor 1080p GIF avatars, everyone! \o/
14:26 LemonLake u,
14:26 LemonLake um
14:27 hoodedice \O/
14:27 reactor \ъ/
14:28 Jordach just posted
14:28 Jordach but my count still says 3999
14:28 Jordach explain
14:29 hoodedice I HAVE THE ANSWER
14:29 hoodedice "42"
14:29 Jordach nope
14:29 Jordach lel
14:29 Jordach i've actually been doing this for a while
14:30 Jordach ecutruin1, /nick ecutruin :3
14:30 Jordach i just noticed you're here
14:32 Jordach btw, i used 0.2-09112011 up until Jan 2012
14:32 Jordach because SSE2 D:
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14:36 alket how to find my land in multiplayer server ?
14:36 alket im lost
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14:37 fireglow I have around 8 seconds lags with seven people on the server
14:39 AnotherBrick alket i don't know how to find, i know how not to loose
14:39 AnotherBrick just write down your coordinates
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14:39 hoodedice Forgot to ask, how do you make your lua code in minetest output something?
14:39 hoodedice like print "42"?
14:39 fireglow lol: https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?p=89825#p89825
14:40 alket AnotherBrick: ah  yes , thanks
14:40 Calinou print("42")
14:40 Calinou but what you want to use is minetest.log("action", "42")
14:40 Calinou to log it with a timestamp and prefix
14:40 Calinou minetest.log("error", "math is broke")
14:40 Calinou for errors
14:40 Calinou (will show in chat and console)
14:40 hoodedice if I used print as is, where would I see output?
14:41 Calinou in the console, without any prefix.
14:41 Calinou use for mod loading prints
14:41 hoodedice hmm, thanks
14:41 Calinou if minetest.setting_getbool("log_mods") then print("[moreblocks] loaded.") end
14:41 Calinou at the end of your mod :p
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14:42 hoodedice aha, got it
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14:46 * Calinou found a Rainbow Dash on a pixel art server
14:47 Calinou as well as someone dating, as usual
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14:54 * Calinou is working on diamond/Mese rebalance
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15:04 PenguinDad Will mese finally be stronger than diamond?
15:05 Calinou faster, but will not last long (as long as steel probably)
15:05 Calinou diamond will have mese speed, if not slower
15:05 Calinou TL;DR make diamond not overpowered and make Mese useful for people who already have diamond
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15:07 Calinou Mese tools are lightweight, they do the damage as diamond, but have a lower full punch interval
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15:13 Jordach TL;R Calinou stole my fucking idea
15:14 reactor Jordach: http://xkcd.com/90/
15:15 Jordach hah
15:15 Calinou it's not stealing
15:15 PenguinDad I wonder if there's anything like TC for minetest
15:15 Calinou did you lose the idea from your head?
15:15 Calinou TC?
15:15 PenguinDad Calinou: Tinkers' Construct
15:16 Jordach PenguinDad, i had an attempt
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15:16 Krock hi
15:16 PenguinDad In BFD I guess
15:18 LemonLake PenguinDad: what part of it, specifically?
15:18 PenguinDad hi Krock
15:18 LemonLake or, the entire mod?
15:18 LemonLake it's a big mod
15:18 LemonLake I'm actually working on a mod called 'jurgen tools' which has small aspects of it
15:19 PenguinDad LemonLake: mainly the modular tool crafting part
15:20 LemonLake yeah
15:20 LemonLake i have something kiiinda like that
15:20 LemonLake but im thinking of ditching the plan
15:20 Calinou now the hardest part… testing the tools
15:20 LemonLake why is that hard?
15:21 Calinou making sure they're balanced, nothing is overpowered or underpowered
15:21 Calinou I did an important structural change to the game
15:22 LemonLake "WindomsGXP" "WindomsVesto"
15:22 LemonLake *facepalm*
15:23 PenguinDad LemonLake: "WisdomXD" :P
15:24 Jordach LemonLake, Ukuntu :D
15:25 Calinou my tweaks seem to be good, pushing…
15:25 Calinou Jordach, Fudora (-:
15:25 Calinou FUD-ora
15:25 Calinou it could describe it well…
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15:28 Calinou Carbone: Separate detail and global glass textures, make Mese tools faster but less durable, make diamond tools slower. Make sticks easier to craft and store.
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15:32 Jordach http://paste.debian.net/109494
15:32 Jordach ^ BFD todo list
15:35 Calinou paste.debian.net, ugh
15:36 Calinou http://0bin.net/ is a nice pastebin, encrypted
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15:39 jordan4ibanez Whoa
15:40 jordan4ibanez We can make entire biomes, map gen, structures, and water ways without any lag now?
15:45 PenguinDad > without any lag
15:45 PenguinDad sorry but that's impossible
15:45 LemonLake ^
15:46 Calinou depends on server resources, jordan4ibanez, but Lua mapgen can be fast enough to be usable
15:46 Calinou it'll still be way slower than a C++ mapgen like v6
15:54 Jordach v7 is reasonabvle
15:54 Calinou meh, it's not so natural
15:54 Calinou but the good thing is, you define biomes by yourself, it's more modular
15:55 Krock <3 lua mapgen
15:55 PenguinDad I've always disabled the biomeblend mg_flag
15:56 Calinou I like biomeblend
15:56 Jordach biomeblend is a yes and no
15:56 Jordach if V7 had it, it'd be nice
15:57 PenguinDad but you should be able to disable it
15:59 reactor Night!
16:01 Calinou /time 6000
16:01 Calinou no longer night
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16:02 fireglow :)
16:04 Krock /set time_speed 0
16:04 Krock /time 12000
16:04 fireglow someone built a glass clock again
16:04 Krock horray!
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16:37 MinetestBot kaeza: 07-07 18:02 UTC <Jordach> https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig/co​mmit/694a4a8fc1190802e7b5646d8d08696f373fd973 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHfmoG4MUIQ
16:38 kaeza MinetestBot!
16:38 MinetestBot kaeza!
16:38 kaeza afternoons
16:39 kaeza Jordach, nice
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16:45 LemonLake last episode of season 1 of ore no imouto
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16:54 MinetestBot EvergreenTree: 07-09 15:44 UTC <rubenwardy> https://github.com/rubenwardy/NodeBox​Editor/blob/master/CMakeLists.txt#L23  try changing to find_package(PNG version REQUIRED) where version is the version of libpng. ie: find_package(PNG 12.3.6 REQUIRED). If it doesn't work, fiddle around with quotes ("12.3.6") and full versions (libpng-12.3.6)
17:11 LemonLake that anime was actually really good
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17:23 * Krock meows at DogePony
17:23 * DogePony pets Krock
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17:26 MinetestBot BlockMen: 07-07 04:22 UTC <hoodedice> Need to edit Wiki main page to reflect latest Minetest Version
17:26 MinetestBot GIT: BlockMen commited to minetest/minetest_game: Add protection to TNT (by @tenplus1) 3180bdf 2014-07-13T19:24:57+02:00 http://git.io/PZQNBg
17:28 sfan5 Calinou: http://meow.minetest.net/tiles/
17:30 Calinou yay, yet another “Minetest on Steam” topic
17:30 Calinou sfan5, very nice, but can't zoom? the buttons don't work
17:31 sfan5 zoom doesn't make much sense
17:31 sfan5 +in
17:31 Calinou it would, to see details
17:31 Calinou and to see all the map easily
17:31 sfan5 zoom out is not done because it's just a fast mockup
17:31 Calinou nice, your mapper handles transparency
17:31 sfan5 s/mockup/non-properly done thing/
17:32 Calinou which one do you use? C++?
17:32 sfan5 thats not my mapper
17:32 sfan5 it's the official C++ one
17:32 Calinou OK
17:32 Calinou I meant, the mapper you used
17:32 Calinou I'll clone it
17:33 sfan5 use --drawalpha
17:33 sfan5 I finally make that feature work
17:33 sfan5 (this is the transparency you talked about)
17:33 * Krock wants .exe
17:33 Calinou need libgd? :o
17:34 sfan5 ys
17:34 sfan5 yes*
17:34 Calinou need libvpx-dev? O_o
17:34 Calinou for installing libgd-dev
17:35 Calinou my map.png has tons of empty space :/
17:37 Calinou lol I got a 72 × 72 PNG file with X, Z and a player marker
17:37 PenguinDad !c math.e * math.e
17:37 MinetestBot 7.3890560989306495
17:37 Calinou “./minetestmapper -i ~/.minetest/worlds/server -o map.png --draworigin --drawplayers --drawscale --drawalpha” → always segfaults
17:37 Calinou drawalpha is the thing that makes it segfault
17:37 PenguinDad ^ Krock
17:38 * Krock gives PenguinDad access violation
17:38 sfan5 Calinou: -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug and gdb 'bt full' pleae
17:38 fireglow is there a way I can make torches give light when they're hold?
17:38 sfan5 please*
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17:39 PenguinDad Krock: I meant 7.3890560989306495 because it's e×e
17:39 Krock ...
17:39 Calinou how do I specify parameters to an application with gdb?
17:40 Calinou fireglow, there's a pull request for that, but it's old and not merged because it required shaders; it gave an advantage to players who could use shaders
17:40 sfan5 gdb --args ./app -l ication
17:40 fireglow humm
17:40 fireglow indeed, it's quite useful
17:40 Krock PenguinDad, that's 0.73890560989306495 cuz of .
17:42 MinetestBot GIT: Novatux commited to minetest/minetest_game: Better ingot textures c521cb0 2014-07-13T19:37:01+02:00 http://git.io/-yGU3g
17:42 Calinou warning, horrondeous output: http://0bin.net/paste/O5FKuIkmGinhzhO2#VZ​MfKIywdfxuZMTpMMIVJintbY-wY9jEJ3CaoiOK+F/
17:42 PenguinDad Krock: double dots aren't allowed so I dropped the first one
17:43 PenguinDad Shiny steel ingots :(
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17:46 john_minetest Hey
17:51 Krock hey john_minetest
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17:55 Calinou TNT now obeys protection in Carbone (tested, working)
17:56 * kaeza puts a Mese Nuke on Calinou's head
17:56 john_minetest does carbone have mesecons and animals?
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17:57 asl lol, the old gold texture really does look like a block of cheese
17:57 Calinou no Iron/Mese TNT, didn't bother adding them
17:58 Calinou john_minetest, yes and yes
17:58 Calinou rat and sheep
17:58 Calinou it has limited Mesecons (to not be too heavy)
17:58 Calinou no micro/Luacontrollers and blinkyplants, most otably
17:58 Calinou notably*
17:58 john_minetest ok
17:59 * asl think the new gold texture still look like cheese
17:59 LemonLake sfan5: is it just me or in season 2 are the girls literally
17:59 LemonLake white
17:59 LemonLake like...whit
17:59 LemonLake e
18:00 sfan5 season 2 of oreimo?
18:00 LemonLake ye
18:00 sfan5 haven't seen that
18:00 LemonLake the girls are all white, like, full on fuck off white
18:00 sfan5 Calinou: which compiler?
18:03 Calinou gcc
18:03 sfan5 version?
18:03 Calinou gcc (Ubuntu 4.8.2-19ubuntu1) 4.8.2
18:04 sfan5 hm
18:04 sfan5 I have no clue why it might not be working
18:06 LemonLake okay, i think the reason they're all fuck off white is because the recorder's color setup was wrong
18:06 MinetestBot GIT: cupofinsane commited to minetest/minetest_game: Alias string to cotton 5175897 2014-07-13T20:04:14+02:00 http://git.io/qo3RgA
18:13 Calinou finally
18:14 LemonLake one thing about this anime is that it gives no fucks about trademarks
18:24 Krock http://i.imgur.com/mW0daRE.png
18:29 Calinou you should really enable mip-maps :p
18:29 Calinou nice buildings
18:29 Krock hmm? *looks up what mip-maps do*
18:32 * Krock sees, it doesn't look nice when mip mapping is enabled
18:36 Calinou smoothens textures, may give a few FPS more
18:36 LemonLake and it doesnt kill eyes
18:41 jordan4ibanez So can I use the voxel api to modify the terrain on the fly or is it for mapgen only?
18:42 PenguinDad jordan4ibanez: you can use voxmynipples all the time
18:43 PenguinDad *voxmanips
18:43 jordan4ibanez PenguinDad, is there a tutorial for basic adding and removing blocks?
18:43 jordan4ibanez and lol
18:43 PilzAdam PenguinDad, it's called "VoxelManipulator"
18:44 PenguinDad PilzAdam: I know that :P
18:44 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, you could look at existing mods; there are no tutorials yet AFAIK
18:45 jordan4ibanez What mods use this api?
18:46 PilzAdam my nether mod
18:46 PilzAdam worldedit should use it too, not sure if it really does
18:46 PenguinDad jordan4ibanez: https://github.com/Uberi/Minetest-WorldEdit
18:51 sfan5 o/ jordan4ibanez
18:53 jordan4ibanez \o sfan5
18:53 jordan4ibanez PilzAdam,  you should set the lightlevel in the nether to at least half bright
18:54 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: http://i.imgur.com/iEyDY2z.jpg
18:54 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: http://meow.minetest.net/tiles/
18:55 jordan4ibanez what is meow.minetest?
18:55 jordan4ibanez And that looks just like my cat
18:55 Calinou sfan5's domain
18:55 * Krock found the sad face again
18:56 john_minetest sfan5: No zoom D:
18:56 sfan5 I'll maybe add that later
18:57 Krock > JavaScript
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18:57 sfan5 Krock: what else would you use?
18:57 john_minetest Somebody with the name "john" is on minetest servers...
18:58 Krock well, some people dislike javascript but there's no real alternative
18:58 Krock john_minetest, the world is huge
18:59 john_minetest There is a JS alternative: no js and native applications!
18:59 PenguinDad Krock: there is one coffeescript :P
18:59 john_minetest 3!
18:59 Krock PenguinDad, yeah. that's like javascript..
18:59 SylvieLorxu I'm sure Javascript is way more overused than necessary
18:59 SylvieLorxu HTML5 and CSS3 allow you to create great sites without a single line of JS
19:00 * Krock gives SylvieLorxu Netscape Navigator
19:01 SylvieLorxu People who use Netscape don't deserve to see a website as it is meant to be seen anyway
19:01 john_minetest Can Netscape Navigator speak HTTP?
19:01 SylvieLorxu Yes
19:01 Krock it doesn't speak
19:01 SylvieLorxu I used it back in the Windows 95 days
19:01 PenguinDad Krock: why would you support browsers from the last millenium?
19:07 Krock PenguinDad, YOLO
19:08 Krock I mean SWAG
19:09 PilzAdam "Swag, a type of window valance, often in combination with a full curtain underneath"
19:09 Krock window+s
19:09 * Krock headdesks
19:10 PenguinDad Krock: http://www.urbandictionary.com/defi​ne.php?term=SWAG&amp;defid=6132562 :P
19:10 Krock AAAAAAAAAA
19:10 Krock *runs away*
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19:11 jordan4ibanez So when I call
19:11 jordan4ibanez local vm, emin, emax = minetest.get_mapgen_object("voxelmanip")
19:11 jordan4ibanez local data = vm:get_data()
19:12 jordan4ibanez vm is a nil value
19:12 Krock don't use it as mapgen object
19:12 PilzAdam get_mapgen_object() only works in mapgen callbacks
19:12 Krock ^
19:12 jordan4ibanez So what would I substitute with that?
19:12 Krock vm = minetest.get_voxel_manip()
19:13 Krock emin, emax = vm:read_from_map(minp, maxp)
19:13 Krock the rest is the same
19:13 PilzAdam local vm = VoxelManip()  should work too
19:15 Krock much ways, same results
19:23 jordan4ibanez So it doesn't crash, but it doesn't remove any blocks either hmmm
19:24 Krock how about writing to map?
19:25 jordan4ibanez http://pastie.org/pastes/9386075​/text?key=piiumfzvrjpcfptef84aq
19:25 Krock \tvm:set_data(data)\n\tvm:write_to_map()
19:26 Krock use vector.subtract and vector.add to clean up that stuff
19:26 PilzAdam data[np] = "air" <- this is wrong
19:26 jordan4ibanez So I have to use a var in place of string?
19:26 Krock c_air = minetest.get_content_id("air")
19:26 Krock use c_air
19:27 jordan4ibanez OH
19:27 jordan4ibanez oh
19:28 jordan4ibanez But I have no idea what you mean when you sent \tvm:set_data(data)\n\tvm:write_to_map()
19:28 jordan4ibanez \n = new line?
19:28 Krock that's rubbish. I se you already got that stuff
19:28 jordan4ibanez Man this api is less user friendly than I am
19:28 jordan4ibanez Do I have to use the data info in each command?
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19:32 Krock jordan4ibanez, liek dis: http://pastebin.com/vj3zGZWL
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19:41 jordan4ibanez Hmmm, isn't this supposed to be faster than set node?
19:41 jordan4ibanez Or is there a way to force update chunks
19:41 Krock both
19:42 jordan4ibanez how i do diz
19:44 jordan4ibanez So update_map() updates the entire map? :O
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19:45 Krock jordan4ibanez, "local emin, emax = vm:read_from_map(minp, maxp)" and "vm:write_to_map()". Do you think it updates the complete world?
19:46 jordan4ibanez OH vm:update_map()
19:46 jordan4ibanez Starting to understand
19:47 jordan4ibanez WHOA
19:47 jordan4ibanez that's fucking fast
19:48 Krock censor pls. children are here.
19:48 LemonLake Krock: there always is
19:48 Krock s/is/are
19:49 * Krock <3 self-made binaries
19:52 PenguinDad 1010000111001010101010111010​1010101111111111100000001111
19:52 LemonLake the animators of oreimo really had a lot of time
19:52 PenguinDad ^ self-made binary
19:52 LemonLake a new intro/outro every ep
19:52 LemonLake and the composers, actually
19:52 LemonLake new song
19:52 * PenguinDad doesn't have that much time
19:53 sfan5 LemonLake: they even made a full length OP for the whole OP song
19:53 LemonLake yep
19:53 sfan5 seen it?
19:53 LemonLake no but i was told of it
19:53 jordan4ibanez This is what we wanted 2 years ago sfan5 and now it's REAL
19:53 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/cHZiS6q.jpg
19:54 jordan4ibanez radius = 50
19:54 * Krock takes away LemonLake synthisizer
19:54 PenguinDad dat os
19:54 Krock jordan4ibanez, too small
19:54 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: remember when I made that youtube video about nuking a map?
19:57 jordan4ibanez No I'm sorry I dont
19:57 jordan4ibanez Do you still have it sfan5 ?
19:57 sfan5 k
19:57 sfan5 s/k/yes/
19:59 jordan4ibanez Where it be
19:59 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jeld8l49LQo
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20:01 jordan4ibanez_ Lol I did radius 400 and it crashed my computer
20:02 Krock use a new map with less generated terrain
20:03 jordan4ibanez_ Let's try 150
20:03 jordan4ibanez_ And sfan5  that video is 2nostalgic4me
20:03 sfan5 meow
20:04 john_minetest sfan5: Have you got a minetest server
20:04 john_minetest ?
20:04 sfan5 !server Meowtest
20:04 MinetestBot sfan5: Meowtest 0.4.10 "SEGFAULTY" | minetest.org:30018 | Clients: 11/25, 0/19 | Version: 0.4.10-rc1 / meowtest_game | Ping: 22ms
20:04 sfan5 /\ john_minetest
20:04 john_minetest sfan5: What's your name on the server?
20:04 sfan5 ninjakitten
20:06 Krock !server 0.4.9-dev_MSVC
20:06 MinetestBot Krock: No results
20:06 Krock of. it searchs for title
20:09 jordan4ibanez_ So when I did radius 150 I thought it crashed, but it just sort of flipped out http://imgur.com/JQeryRt,OF3Ebpe,Td3Reds#0
20:10 Krock cuz the blocks wheren't generated yet
20:11 Krock fill it with water!!!!
20:11 jordan4ibanez_ NEVAHHHH
20:12 Krock messsiii yess
20:17 * Krock found a mese block with a regular mese ore above
20:18 sfan5 jordan4ibanez_: we should do fun stuff in minetest again some time
20:19 jordan4ibanez_ Yes, yes, this thursday I have the day off so we can do it then
20:19 sfan5 \o/
20:21 jordan4ibanez_ What would we even do though?
20:38 LemonLake shame
20:38 LemonLake i dont think i can finish oreimo today
20:38 LemonLake there's still 9 eps left :/
20:40 PenguinDad "Wanted: (-302,29,-288) , (-298,33,-284) Got: (-304,16,-288) , (-289,47,-273)" The size of an LVM isn't always what you wanted :(
20:41 Krock wut?
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20:43 PenguinDad Krock: code producing this output http://0bin.net/paste/Uh-iVCvU1ZnRRvrn#Pp​PEtHGbZwV5itp076ZSG1GRjv-yEhdyZ2u/L9MwB7B
20:44 john_minetest Why does EVERY website have like 500 cross site requests to ad and tracking sites?!?
20:44 Krock PenguinDad, it must be that way
20:44 fireglow yeah, that's annoying as heck, john_minetest
20:44 Krock emin != minp
20:45 john_minetest http://imgur.com/gallery/rj75V
20:45 john_minetest :D
20:47 nore PenguinDad: it will always be bigger than your request
20:47 nore that's why VoxelArea is useful :)
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21:06 Megaf Hi everyone, this thing at 5 GHz must be the perfect minetest server CPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pr​oduct.aspx?Item=N82E16819113347
21:06 LemonLake i doubt there's a 'perfect server cpu'
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21:07 Ivalin how to use minetest translations ?
21:07 Megaf perfect for minetest
21:07 Megaf minetest likes high clock
21:13 john_minetest http://imgur.com/gallery/Ksmj6yi
21:15 PenguinDad now I know why there's VoxelArea
21:16 PenguinDad and this condition makes no sense https://github.com/Uberi/Minetest-WorldEdit/​blob/master/worldedit/manipulations.lua#L51
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21:20 john_minetest http://imgur.com/gallery/g0FdxyK
21:21 Jordach anyone up for my support of the current game?
21:21 Jordach (eg, arg vs ger)
21:25 PenguinDad Jordach: is germany winning?
21:25 LemonLake wouldn't surprise me
21:25 john_minetest 1:0 for germany
21:25 Jordach GERMANS SCORED 1-0
21:26 john_minetest 8 minutes to go
21:26 Jordach ,01asdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsd
21:26 Jordach ,04asdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsd
21:26 Jordach ,08asdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsd
21:26 LemonLake whoa
21:26 LemonLake random numbers ^.^
21:27 PenguinDad ,03I ,11c,09a,06n ,08h,08e,12a,09r ,10i,06f ,02g,12e,08r,07m,13a,12n,09y ,03w,06i,06n,08s ,11\,08o,10/
21:27 Jordach PenguinDad, you have a TV!
21:27 * sfan5 meows at Jordach
21:27 Jordach PenguinDad, or i broadcast my desktop
21:27 PenguinDad Jordach: without TV or your desktop
21:27 Jordach PenguinDad, streamin :3
21:28 Jordach 720p, HD :3
21:28 Jordach (and no that's overskill for streaming)
21:28 sfan5 Jordach: where?
21:28 * sfan5 would really like 1080p or 4K streams
21:28 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/okZmdgh.jpg
21:28 john_minetest http://imgur.com/gallery/XrSkyav
21:29 PenguinDad Jordach: I just have to hear the reactions of my neighbours  :P
21:29 Jordach second hand euphoria is not a substitute
21:29 john_minetest sfan5: I am listening to the cup on the radio! I haven't got 1 single pixel!!!
21:29 Jordach messi missed!
21:29 Jordach missi messi :D
21:30 * sfan5 meows at john_minetest
21:30 * john_minetest gives sfan5 a <'((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((​((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((​(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((--<
21:30 * sfan5 nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooms it
21:31 Jordach wtf is scheinstein made of
21:31 sfan5 of stone
21:31 sfan5 wait no
21:31 sfan5 <xnrphone> schweinsteiger is titaniuuuuummm
21:32 Jordach +2 minutes D:
21:33 john_minetest D:
21:33 Jordach FOUL! D:
21:33 PenguinDad O:
21:33 sfan5 D:
21:33 john_minetest D:
21:33 john_minetest srsly...
21:35 Jordach HE MISSED
21:35 PenguinDad john_minetest is getting serious O:
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21:35 * sfan5 meows at PenguinDad
21:35 john_minetest Sirius? James' best friend?
21:35 sfan5 !op
21:36 Topic for #minetest is now Latest stable version is 0.4.10 | Please be patient, responses may take a while | Rules: http://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules | Development: #minetest-dev | Server list: http://minetest.net/servers | Logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | Channel stats: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html | Germany 1 - 0
21:36 LemonLake !pop
21:36 jojoa1997 hello
21:36 PenguinDad !voice
21:36 Topic for #minetest is now Latest stable version is 0.4.10 | Please be patient, responses may take a while | Rules: http://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules | Development: #minetest-dev | Server list: http://minetest.net/servers | Logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | Channel stats: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html | Germany wins!7
21:36 Topic for #minetest is now Latest stable version is 0.4.10 | Please be patient, responses may take a while | Rules: http://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules | Development: #minetest-dev | Server list: http://minetest.net/servers | Logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | Channel stats: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html | Germany wins!
21:36 Topic for #minetest is now Latest stable version is 0.4.10 | Please be patient, responses may take a while | Rules: http://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules | Development: #minetest-dev | Server list: http://minetest.net/servers | Logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | GERMANY WINS THE WORLD CUP!
21:36 sfan5 !voice PenguinDad
21:36 PenguinDad Germany wins!!1!
21:36 Jordach brb
21:36 Jordach moving ton Germany
21:37 john_minetest :D
21:37 john_minetest won
21:37 john_minetest woohoo
21:37 Jordach the German Football Machine :3
21:37 Jordach it's no longer a war machine
21:38 * sfan5 meows at Jordach
21:38 jojoa1997 oh God the cats
21:38 john_minetest "no longer a war machine"... Since 1945... I think you missed like 70 years of history ;)
21:38 * sfan5 meows at jojoa1997
21:38 sfan5 !deop sfan5
21:38 sfan5 !voice sfan5
21:39 Jordach still making beautiful guns :D
21:39 Jordach !voice john_minetest
21:39 Jordach if you're german, get a free voice
21:39 * PenguinDad meows Jordach
21:39 Jordach or european
21:39 sfan5 !voice kahrl
21:40 john_minetest !voice Sokomine
21:40 john_minetest sfan5: ^
21:40 * jojoa1997 is haveing flashbacks atm
21:40 Jordach !voice Sokomine
21:40 Jordach !voice xnrand
21:40 sfan5 !voice Sokomine
21:40 sfan5 xnrand is german?
21:40 Jordach yes
21:40 Jordach iirc
21:40 john_minetest "We are the champions" on SWR3!!!
21:40 john_minetest :D
21:40 john_minetest yay
21:40 Jordach i want to see tomorrows headlines from Germany
21:41 * sfan5 throws german newspapers at Jordach
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21:46 john_minetest wikipedia entry already says that germany won
21:46 LemonLake some saddos have nothing better to do
21:47 Jordach we need 5v5 minetest world cup football
21:47 LemonLake is there a ball mod
21:47 sfan5 yes
21:47 Jordach there should be
21:48 Jordach my bro just text me this
21:48 Jordach Germany have finally won something since world war 1 :L
21:48 sfan5 :L
21:49 * sfan5 curls up to Jordach's lap
21:49 Jordach mew
21:49 * Jordach pets sfan5
21:49 * sfan5 purrs
21:49 LemonLake um
21:50 Jordach pro footballer with a iPhone 5c
21:50 Jordach holy shite
21:51 Jordach the tears of argentinian kids will flood the brazilian streets :P
21:52 sfan5 :D
21:53 Jordach what do they taste of; SWEET GERMAN VICTORY
21:53 * sfan5 orders Jordach to fly to Germany
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21:54 hoodedice Hello miners!
21:54 hoodedice Time for some serious discussion
21:55 Jordach FOOTBALL! FOOTBALL!
21:55 sfan5 hoodedice: Germany won
21:55 PenguinDad hoodedice: Germany wins!!1!
21:55 hoodedice After yet another round of Minetest with Steam integration, and after having much discussion
21:55 hoodedice Zwizzing hell people
21:55 hoodedice Listen!
21:55 * sfan5 is a cat
21:55 fireglow meow?
21:55 * LemonLake is a piece of trash
21:55 fireglow crumple crumple?
21:55 LemonLake ^
21:55 LemonLake love it
21:55 * Jordach made a new sig
21:56 * PenguinDad is a penguin
21:56 hoodedice So, After yet another round of Minetest with Steam integration, and after having much discussion
21:56 Jordach germany won the world cup, the end
21:56 LemonLake fuck it
21:56 LemonLake hmm...
21:56 LemonLake i think i'll watch one or two more episodes of this anime
21:56 LemonLake then i have to sleep
21:56 * sfan5 meows at fireglow
21:56 hoodedice I've decided that even if the community pays the initial $100, we don't have enough money for sick features like auto login, and join server
21:57 hoodedice Which requires hosting by  steam
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21:57 hoodedice Even the most coveted feature, the Workshop seemingly requires steam hosting
21:57 LemonLake duh
21:57 hoodedice As such, after reading up on some discussion on steam about GPL based games
21:58 hoodedice The consensus was that desura was a better platform for free and open games
21:58 hoodedice It has a modding community.
21:58 hoodedice It has support for linux based games. And multiple platform based games
21:58 hoodedice It is largely used for indie games
21:59 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/memberl​ist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=332
21:59 hoodedice I have not yet read the ToS and EULA, but I have been told that desura is GPL friendly
21:59 hoodedice Jordach, "Age: 18"
21:59 hoodedice u wot m8? siriusly?
22:00 Jordach seriously
22:00 LemonLake hoodedice: yes, seriously
22:00 hoodedice lel
22:00 hoodedice I thought you were like, 21 something
22:00 LemonLake i thought it was obvious
22:00 hoodedice So, any remarks on my proposition?
22:00 hoodedice sfan5!
22:01 sfan5 no
22:01 hoodedice why?
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22:03 hoodedice Also note that the desura client is GPLv3
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22:05 jordan4ibanez_ Here is the api
22:05 jordan4ibanez_ http://pastie.org/pastes/938688​8/text?key=jgipuhkwg1ucks9rsp9g
22:06 jordan4ibanez_ Here is the attempted application
22:06 jordan4ibanez_ http://pastie.org/pastes/9386890​/text?key=gny2f2k5y5itiimytxtv5a
22:06 jordan4ibanez_ I have no idea why this doesn't work, everything appears to be fine
22:07 hoodedice what is the error?
22:12 hoodedice sucks to be me.
22:13 Jordach Today on #minetest, hoodedice learns that nobody gives a fuck, including the omnioptent narrator.
22:14 * hoodedice thinks of bumping the discussion on #minetest-dev
22:14 Jordach i wouldn't
22:14 hoodedice Wasn't celeron supportive of a steam integration?
22:19 LemonLake just one more ep...just one more ep...
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22:21 Nerotic Long time since I have logged in.
22:22 hoodedice Hello
22:23 PenguinDad Hi Nerotic
22:24 Nerotic yo
22:24 Nerotic gtg
22:25 hoodedice lol
22:32 Jordach !title http://imgur.com/gallery/WjfCP3N
22:32 MinetestBot Jordach: While in the Bing offices... - Imgur
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22:45 Jordach i found gold http://imgur.com/gallery/Lv7zGVe
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23:08 LemonLake im gonna get some sleep now
23:08 LemonLake gnight
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23:15 Guest13235 GO GERMANY GO!?
23:16 Guest13235 -?
23:16 PenguinDad Guest13235: Germany wins!!1!
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23:21 * Jordach slaps VanessaE
23:21 Jordach kaeza_, i watched :D
23:21 VanessaE ow.
23:26 hoodedice https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=148374#p148374
23:32 VanessaE bbl
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23:39 jordan4ibanez_ How do I get the name of a node with content id?
23:39 jordan4ibanez_ I have vm:get_data() and I tried vm:get_data().name
23:41 jordan4ibanez_ http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Ilq8SzToP6I/U1Em0tvn4Z​I/AAAAAAAAZIQ/gyJ4Elwc8dQ/s1600/out+of+ideas.png
23:41 jordan4ibanez_ and right now this api documentation is poop
23:44 * hoodedice thinks that his chats are invisible
23:46 jordan4ibanez_ who said that
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23:53 Dogzilla131 I have a question of height
23:53 Dogzilla131 How high do you need to be to not make a shadow?
23:53 jordan4ibanez_ out of loaded chunks
23:57 jordan4ibanez_ This is how you get name from new voxel api minetest.get_name_from_cont​ent_id(vm:get_data(np)[1])

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