Time Nick Message 00:00 hoodedice I think the camera rotates around an invisible pivot, and if I can decrease a radius between the camera and pivot center 00:00 hoodedice WE CAN HAVE A REALISTIC FIRST PERSON VIEW!!!! 00:00 LemonLake hoodedice: in most cases, the world rotates around the 'camera' 00:00 LemonLake giving it the feel of the camera rotating 00:01 hoodedice Lemon, I think you can cover it up from all sides, except one which is partly covered, with a measuring aid on that side 00:01 hoodedice Why is it closed on top? 00:01 Hirato_ boy, a lot of lava sure came out of that tank ;) 00:01 LemonLake this is literally a super simple framed_glass design 00:01 LemonLake glasslike_framed* 00:01 hoodedice Also, if that were so, why doesn't the world rotate when others look around in multiplayer? 00:02 LemonLake hoodedice: because it's clientside, duh? 00:03 hoodedice lua modding is serverside... hmm... 00:03 hoodedice Let me see if I can make anything out of the camera src 00:05 LemonLake hoodedice: ill fiddle around with the textures on the tank, maybe 00:06 LemonLake problem is, nobody has used this new glasslike_framed so it's difficult to find things on it 00:08 LemonLake hoodedice: thinking about it, param2 is used so there's no rotation 00:08 LemonLake a gauge would be useless 00:08 hoodedice rotation? 00:08 LemonLake well, covers and a gauge 00:08 LemonLake may as well have the whole thing glass 00:09 hoodedice I don't know much about node modification, so thisis beyond me 00:09 hoodedice In fact, I still suck at lua mods 00:09 LemonLake then why are you messing in the c++? 00:09 hoodedice Because 00:09 hoodedice Hypothesis 00:10 hoodedice I found out that lua mod side allowed for camera manips 00:10 hoodedice But the C++ code limited it. I removed the limitation 00:10 hoodedice Now I find that this moves the camera and pivot point relative to player 00:11 LemonLake okay, texture 3 is top + bottom face 00:11 LemonLake i can probably add a little square that you put the liquids into, actually 00:11 hoodedice So, I need to find how the camera actually moves in minetest (As you said that it could be moving the world instead of camera) 00:11 hoodedice And then find a way to reduce the pivot distance 00:12 LemonLake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soBzmWnaRik 00:12 LemonLake tanks ^.^ 00:14 hoodedice Amount of water it fills seems unrealistic 00:14 LemonLake yeah, probably gonna make it fill less. 00:15 LemonLake i.e. 8 buckets per tank 00:15 hoodedice Well, I'll just say that the bucket is a thumbtack 00:15 hoodedice Or whatever you call that tiny thing that sewers wear 00:15 hoodedice *tailors 00:16 LemonLake okay, im happy with this tank design 00:17 hoodedice most MT devs are prolly sleeping... 00:17 LemonLake they sleep this early? 00:17 hoodedice > Europeans 00:17 LemonLake im in the uk, anyway 00:18 LemonLake quite early here xD 00:18 hoodedice I would imagine it to be either 8 or 9 pm 00:18 hoodedice And most of them are Germans, and/or Finnish 00:18 hoodedice SO a further 1 hour 00:18 LemonLake America is ~8pm 00:18 LemonLake in the UK it is 1 AM 00:18 hoodedice 7:20, CST. 00:18 LemonLake So in Europe it is 2 AM 00:18 hoodedice -.- 00:18 hoodedice 2 AM is early. -.- 00:19 LemonLake yep :P 00:19 hoodedice Well, not everyone is nocturnal. 00:19 LemonLake I'm a night owl. 00:19 LemonLake So I usually stay awake around this time because I get more owrk done 00:19 LemonLake work done* 00:19 hoodedice That's why neither you nor I are core devs =P 00:19 LemonLake lol :P 00:19 LemonLake I'm not confident enough to work on a team 00:20 LemonLake Plus, I don't understand the codebase. 00:20 hoodedice I don't know C++ 00:20 hoodedice Not even lua 00:20 LemonLake I know fair C+ 00:20 hoodedice Does such a thing even exist? 00:20 hoodedice "C+" 00:20 LemonLake C++* 00:20 LemonLake Tanks update: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/iukAn2u8GWps.png 00:20 LemonLake do they look better now? 00:21 hoodedice ya 00:23 LemonLake I think the water tank will hold 16 buckets, and the lava tank 8 00:23 LemonLake since lava is a much thicker liquid 00:29 LemonLake whew. that was a nights worth of work 00:29 fireglow nice, LemonLake 00:29 LemonLake quite happy with this update so far. mesecons support, pipeworks autocrafter inbuilt, swappers, fans and storage tanks 00:29 LemonLake plus various bugfixes 00:30 LemonLake also made the crafting recipes less harsh 00:30 fireglow can you fill them up all the way? I'm thinking about decoration here 00:30 LemonLake of course 00:30 LemonLake they dont take as much liquid as shown anymore 00:32 hoodedice Wow, you even supported so many mods! 00:32 LemonLake pipeworks already worked with it 00:32 LemonLake just people were too nooby to add it themselves, so i did it for them 00:32 LemonLake it was a simple config change 00:33 LemonLake fireglow: http://i.imgur.com/cDy3RD3.png 00:33 LemonLake (mediacrush is borked again) 00:36 fireglow LemonLake: nice!! 00:36 fireglow I love it 00:37 hoodedice Lemon, I realise that this will indeed take a huge rewrite 00:37 * hoodedice goes back to lua. 00:44 LemonLake okay, im going to hit sleep 00:44 hoodedice bye 00:44 LemonLake got some good work done today 00:44 LemonLake goodnight! 00:55 alket any option to return to first position when i started world , I'm lost , can't go back :p 00:58 hoodedice hmm, alket did you type /grant singleplayer all 00:58 hoodedice ever? 00:58 alket no 00:58 hoodedice If you didn't do that now 00:58 ShadowNinja alket: Do you remember what your position was? If not, look in debug.txt for lines like "alket digs default:dirt at (1,2,3)" and /teleport to there. 00:58 alket thanks 00:58 hoodedice once done, type /teleport 0,0,0 00:58 alket really , this is cool :0 00:58 alket thanks 00:59 ShadowNinja alket: And /sethome for next time. :-) 00:59 hoodedice Shadow, I think he needs to go origin(?) 00:59 alket thanks 00:59 hoodedice ./sethome is default now? 00:59 hoodedice wow. 00:59 ShadowNinja hoodedice: You usually spawn near origin, but you can be a few hundred nodes out. 00:59 ShadowNinja hoodedice: Yep, was added to _game in the _NeXt merge. 01:08 fireglow how do I disable TNT? 01:08 fireglow on a server 01:09 Zeno` just delete the directory 01:10 fireglow I'll create a empty tnt/init.lua 01:10 Zeno` or do that, deleting the directory will work as well 01:10 fireglow ok, cheers 01:11 fireglow phew, I had forgotten to disable it 01:11 fireglow luckily no damage done 01:20 alket how to own land in servers ? 01:20 alket /sethome doesn't owkr 01:22 alket figured it out :) 02:06 uint Hello everybody. When I started minetest in Ubuntu GNOME 14.04, text was not displayed. Places where should display text like "Singleplayer", "Multiplayer" were all blank. 02:06 uint The following is messages in the terminal 02:06 uint Irrlicht Engine version 1.8.1 02:07 uint Linux 3.13.0-31-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 1 15:51:53 UTC 2014 x86_64 02:07 uint Using renderer: OpenGL 3.0 02:07 uint Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV710: X.Org 02:07 uint OpenGL driver version is 1.2 or better. 02:07 uint GLSL version: 1.3 02:07 uint 10:04:53: ERROR[main]: WARNING: Font file was not found. Using default font. 02:07 uint Loaded texture: /usr/share/games/minetest/games/minetest_game/menu/header.png 02:07 uint Loaded texture: /usr/share/games/minetest/games/minetest_game/menu/icon.png 02:07 uint Loaded texture: /usr/share/games/minetest/games/minimal/menu/icon.png 02:07 uint Loaded texture: /usr/share/games/minetest/games/minetest_game/menu/header.png 02:08 uint And several seconds after program started, segment fault occurred 02:14 * Partmedia had a few bus errors like that, too 02:14 Partmedia but now it disappeared :( 02:35 AnotherBrick I remember there was a discussion about bundling different games into minetest. like Next, nodetest, carbon etc. Did they abandon that idea? 02:36 Vazon Next was merged in to Minetest_game but other wise no further input was added 02:42 AnotherBrick next merged into minetest_game? guess that's where tnt came from.. 02:43 AnotherBrick does that mean that minetest_game isn't frozen for mew features? 02:43 AnotherBrick s/mew/new 06:10 nman3600 hi 06:13 VanessaE hi 06:20 nman3600 I've been watching a new anime :) 06:21 nman3600 OldCoder, When's the next time mark's server will be up? 06:21 OldCoder Hi 06:22 OldCoder Isn't it up now? 06:22 OldCoder nman3600, ^ 06:22 OldCoder Ah 06:22 OldCoder The timeout bug again 06:22 OldCoder nman3600, there is a bug he has had twice in a day now 06:22 nman3600 Haven't seen it on the server list for ages. 06:22 OldCoder The world just says timeout 06:23 OldCoder He needs to speak with the core devs about that 06:23 OldCoder I'll restart it again 06:23 OldCoder But I have no way to fix the bug 06:23 OldCoder Restarting; allow a few minutes 06:24 OldCoder nman3600, restarted 06:24 nman3600 OldCoder, Thanks. 06:24 OldCoder Well, I'd like to fix it permanently 06:25 nman3600 OldCoder, Still not re-added the go_places. 06:25 OldCoder Rephrase 06:25 OldCoder I do not understand 06:26 nman3600 before goto_places bugged out (a while back) There was set places. The updated mod has removed them. 06:27 nman3600 OldCoder, ^ 06:27 OldCoder nman3600, I do not understand 06:27 OldCoder What are you referring to? 06:27 nman3600 The goto_places mod on mark's server. 06:28 OldCoder I do not know about this. Please speak with markv. 06:28 nman3600 You updated multitest on mark's server, Thanks OldCoder! 06:30 OldCoder Um, yw 06:30 nman3600 OldCoder, Could you consider adding a coloured glass mod (That's if mark agrees) 06:30 OldCoder Sure 06:31 nman3600 I want to build a skyscraper but It needs coloured glass for my design 06:31 OldCoder kk 06:31 OldCoder nman3600, the timeout error is serious 06:31 OldCoder It needs to be looked at 06:31 OldCoder Has taken down his world twice in a day 06:32 nman3600 Have you asked VanessaE Or Calinou? 06:32 nman3600 They might know how to fix it. 06:32 OldCoder I do not have the time to research this. It is up to the world owners. 06:32 OldCoder Speak with markv please 06:35 nman3600 I've tried, OldCoder, He's not awake I think. 06:35 OldCoder I meant 06:35 OldCoder when possible 06:35 OldCoder It is not a one-day issue 06:40 Miner_48er VanessaE why do moretrees:fir_leaves_bright not decay? 06:45 VanessaE Miner_48er: idk, must be a bug 06:46 VanessaE hm, the code looks right. 06:46 Miner_48er I've tested with a 4/21/14 version that didn't decay and on VS they turn to entirites of moretrees:fir_leaves 06:47 VanessaE well apr 21 is old but nothing since then affects those 06:47 VanessaE however, 06:47 VanessaE my code does not drop them as entities 06:48 VanessaE it decays them like the default code does. 06:48 VanessaE or wait 06:49 Miner_48er those where my results on your server 06:49 VanessaE yeah it does 06:49 VanessaE I forgot about that legacy item 06:51 Miner_48er so is that supposed to happen? 06:52 VanessaE oops 06:52 Miner_48er so is that supposed to happen? 06:52 VanessaE so wait, you're saying they DO decay, but they drop as items instead of just disappearing? 06:52 Miner_48er yes on your server they did 06:52 VanessaE that's normal. 06:52 VanessaE that's how the original conifers mod did it, I wanted to keep the old behavior. 06:53 VanessaE I may actually change the other trees to do the same thing 06:53 VanessaE seeing as how we have auto-expiry and auto-merge of dropped items now 06:54 VanessaE remind me tomorrow (say in 8-10 hours) about this? I'll try to make it configurable. 06:55 VanessaE (my servers will be configured to drop as items since I have auto-pickup, auto-merge, and auto-expire) 06:56 Miner_48er ok 07:03 VanessaE hm, no.. 07:03 VanessaE my code shouldn't be doing that at all now that I look at it 07:03 VanessaE or, it should do it for ALL trees 07:03 VanessaE not just firs 07:05 * VanessaE tests... 07:10 * VanessaE waits for the placed leaves to decay... 07:11 * nman3600 continues watching anime. 07:13 * nman3600 SCREAMS AT THE BUFFERING 07:13 nman3600 LOAD LOAD BUFFER NOOO NO BUFFERRRRR 07:14 VanessaE well rubber tree and default tree leaves disappear as expected. 07:14 nman3600 Yay. 07:15 VanessaE there go the dark fir "leaves". 07:16 VanessaE ah 07:16 VanessaE bright fir leaves dropped out as an item 07:16 VanessaE ok. 07:16 VanessaE AH 07:17 VanessaE I see why 07:18 VanessaE Miner_48er: I'll fix it tomorrow. 07:18 VanessaE at least in dreambuilder 07:18 VanessaE I pushed the fix to moretrees just now though 07:26 VanessaE I'm testing the config idea in dreambuilder now. 07:26 VanessaE or rather in moretrees by way of DB. 07:34 LemonLake "However, it will be done before client-side Lua is added," 07:34 LemonLake well hey, nore just confirmed that client-sude lua IS comign 07:35 nore client-side Lua is *planned* to come 07:35 LemonLake I can get down with that 07:35 nore and that's one of the things that will have to be done before it is added 07:36 nore but you may have to wait more that a year to get client-side lua 07:37 LemonLake oh well 07:37 LemonLake at least it's coming 07:38 LemonLake VanessaE: do you have a pipe API? 07:39 VanessaE LemonLake: you mean the steel pipes? kinda-sorta 07:39 LemonLake actually, it's wtfpl 07:39 VanessaE it's not exactly documented but there are basic functions for autorouting, adding water, and a few others. 07:39 VanessaE but it needs rewritten 07:39 LemonLake would you mind if i...literally copied the pipes for a 'fuel pipe'? 07:39 VanessaE see the new_flow_logic branch 07:39 VanessaE go right ahead 07:39 LemonLake okay, thanks ^.^ 07:39 LemonLake gonna credit you 07:39 VanessaE but please use the new_flow_logic branch as your basis 07:40 VanessaE I'd much prefer to see that branch put into use and pipeworks rebased against it in the future 07:40 LemonLake okay 07:40 VanessaE it's much MUCH better than the mainline code, I just don't have time to complete it 07:45 VanessaE Miner_48er: check moretrees last two commits. that should fix it. 07:46 VanessaE I'll deploy it to the server in time for the morning restart, hopefully 08:03 hoodedice hi Krock 08:03 Krock hi hoodedice 08:03 LemonLake whoa 08:03 LemonLake hoodedice: you're still here? 08:03 LemonLake I really didn't get much sleep, in that case... 08:03 hoodedice slept and woke up 08:04 Krock omg,I slept and woke up, too 08:04 Krock :3 08:04 hoodedice 4 hours of sleep 08:04 LemonLake sounds like me 08:04 hoodedice well 08:05 hoodedice I woke up because Religion 08:05 hoodedice can't be like you haha 08:06 * hoodedice killed chat with Religion 08:07 LemonLake still alive 08:09 reactor Morning! 08:09 reactor Why does minetestserver max out cpu when _I_ join? 08:09 LemonLake because you're a reactor 08:09 hoodedice 3 fucking am 08:09 reactor *sad laughter* 08:09 hoodedice "morning" 08:09 reactor hoodedice: I know that feeling, oh I do. 08:10 reactor I bloody do. 08:10 hoodedice k 08:10 reactor But seriously, I how come? That's the last thing I would expect from client and server of matching version? 08:11 reactor s/ I h/h/ 08:11 LemonLake hmm...I think pipe work s now 08:11 LemonLake just gotta test them 08:12 hoodedice reactor, your own server? 08:12 reactor Yes. 08:12 hoodedice same pc as client? 08:13 reactor Exactly. 08:13 hoodedice same fucking minetest instance? 08:13 hoodedice you son of a gun, you got me good 08:13 reactor Eh? 08:13 reactor Separate processes. 08:13 LemonLake ^ 08:13 hoodedice oh, separate... 08:14 LemonLake i would think that would be pretty obvious, actually 08:14 hoodedice well, try joining from another pc... 08:14 hoodedice lemon, not obvious 08:14 LemonLake VanessaE: I think I've got them working 08:14 reactor How would that change it? 08:15 reactor I can see which process eats up resources -- it's clearly the server. 08:15 hoodedice because the latency between your server and client is low 08:16 hoodedice your server processes a lot of your client's requests as compared to those of others 08:16 LemonLake ^ TIL 08:17 hoodedice thus, your CPU usage goes up, because the connection between your server and client is fast 08:17 hoodedice switching to another PC will increase latency, hence increasing time between requests and lowering CPU usage 08:18 hoodedice this is the long explanation 08:18 hoodedice the short one is: Your CPU is running two fucking instances of minetest 08:18 hoodedice using two PCs will lower the load 08:19 hoodedice I should stop talking to Jordach... I am cussing too much 08:19 sfan5 meow 08:19 MinetestBot sfan5: 07-09 03:55 UTC "ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: LevelDB error: Corruption: bad block type" crazyR 08:19 sfan5 hi everyone 08:19 MinetestBot sfan5: 07-13 04:30 UTC hoodedice thanks you for cmake-gui, again 08:20 sfan5 - 08:20 LemonLake ニャー 08:20 MinetestBot LemonLake: 07-12 04:49 UTC https://cdn.mediacru.sh/k45MTACSoKEl.png 08:20 hoodedice lol sfan 08:20 LemonLake u wot mate 08:20 LemonLake ah, sfan5 woke Minetestbot up 08:20 reactor Oh well. That problem has never happened before. 08:20 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload tel 08:20 sfan5 not exactly 08:21 LemonLake !tell Jordach mate that render looks sick 08:21 MinetestBot LemonLake: yeah, yeah 08:21 reactor How is that supposed to suddenly be sending "too fast"? 08:21 hoodedice that first error I sent out by tell is pretty late 08:21 hoodedice reactor, please complain too sfan 08:22 hoodedice when a person is sleepy, they tend to act like drunks 08:22 Zeno` sending too fast? Sounds like bullshit to me 08:23 hoodedice surely, when I see the logs next morning, I would probably contemplate suicide over whatever bullshit I said 5 minutes ago 08:48 nman3600 Krock, Can I have a link to the newest mini map pic for your server. 08:49 Krock nman3600, latest server post is alays updated 08:49 nman3600 Krock, Can I have a link. 08:49 LemonLake nman3600: .... 08:49 LemonLake stop being lazy 08:49 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?f=10 08:49 LemonLake http://i.imgur.com/7KNFRaF.jpg 08:50 LemonLake gosh, nman3600, you really don't know how to look at a forum post, do you? 08:50 CWz I noticed that installers are nolonger being made for stable version of minetest for windows 08:50 nman3600 LemonLake, I do, I just can't be bothered. 08:50 LemonLake hey, i can see our forest on that map :P 08:50 sfan5 LemonLake: >jpg 08:50 sfan5 it burns 08:50 sfan5 it hurts 08:51 sfan5 D: 08:51 LemonLake sfan5: imgur automatically turns the quality to jpg if its a big image 08:51 LemonLake Krocks fault for using imgur, not mine 08:51 sfan5 -> https://mediacru.sh 08:51 sfan5 ah 08:51 sfan5 Krock: pls 08:51 Calinou Fedora 20 boots a few seconds faster than Debian testing in VirtualBox 08:51 Krock xD 08:51 LemonLake Krock: just switch to mediacrush 08:51 Calinou hi 08:51 Calinou LemonLake, if you're registered, the compression limit goes from 1 MB to 5 MB 08:51 Krock nah. good ol' imgur 08:51 Calinou but still, imgur isn't worth using 08:51 LemonLake ^ 08:51 Calinou mediacru.sh or lut.im are better (-: 08:52 * sfan5 cites something 08:52 sfan5 'By uploading a file [...] you grant Imgur a non-exclusive, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable worldwide license [...] to display online and in any present or future media, to create derivative works of [...] any such file or content.' 08:52 Calinou LemonLake: >jpg 08:52 Calinou I upload my screenshots in .jpg, much faster 08:52 Calinou .png isn't worth it for game screenshots 08:52 Calinou ~400 KB vs 2 to 4 MB… 08:52 sfan5 .jpg is bad for detailed things 08:52 LemonLake ^ 08:52 LemonLake jpg is for photographs. 08:52 LemonLake That's about it 08:53 Calinou the screenshots I post in screenshot thread are all .jpg, nobody seems to really notice the loss of detail due to the size you view them at 08:53 Calinou (but you can click them to enlarge them) 08:53 Calinou if they were all .png, loading time would be awfully long 08:53 LemonLake Calinou trolling: uncompressed jpg 08:53 LemonLake (trollface) 08:53 Calinou (like it already is due to many people using .png :P) 08:53 sfan5 jpg is never uncompressed 08:53 Calinou I use “convert” command, no idea what quality is that 08:53 Calinou probably 90 08:53 sfan5 jpg is for photographs and looks horrible for everything under 85 percent quality 08:54 sfan5 +else 08:54 Calinou I've never thought of uploading a map in .jpg format, but it's a good idea to not make it too long to load 08:54 LemonLake or do it like dynmap 08:54 LemonLake have separate little images and load whats necessary 08:54 Calinou I have yet to see such a thing 08:55 Calinou it's still bandwidth-consuming to do that 08:55 LemonLake dynmap is generally smart 08:55 LemonLake but yes, bandwidth-consuming 08:55 * sfan5 meows at Guest29043 08:55 * LemonLake growls at Guest29043 08:55 * sfan5 purrs at Guest29043 08:55 * LemonLake claws at Guest29043 08:58 Calinou what I'd just like to see is a tool to pan-move over the mapper images, that's all 08:58 Calinou and zoom on them easily 08:58 Calinou instead of using in-browser tools which are inconsistent and not so good 08:58 sfan5 leaftlet.js 08:58 LemonLake ^ 08:58 sfan5 -t 08:59 LemonLake http://leafletjs.com/ 09:00 * whiskers75 meows at sfan5 09:00 * sfan5 meows at whiskers75 09:00 Calinou does it let you scroll over a static image? 09:00 LemonLake i suppose you can combine leaflet with imagemagick 09:00 Calinou can you implement it without PHP (eg. for use with Dropbox)? 09:00 LemonLake chop it up into 16x16 tiles 09:00 LemonLake Calinou: it's javascript. 09:01 LemonLake "Weighing just about 33 KB of JS, it has all the features most developers ever need for online maps." 09:05 MinetestBot GIT: Novatux commited to minetest/minetest: Fix crash reported here: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9726 24a631e 2014-07-13T11:05:07+02:00 http://git.io/zWl72A 09:06 PenguinDad Leafleft.js looks good 09:06 PenguinDad -f 09:09 Zeno` https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1418 <-- Why are people writing cpp macros like that? They potentially introduce hard to find bugs. Wrap x in parenthesis 09:09 VanessaE bbl 09:09 MinetestBot VanessaE: 07-11 11:22 UTC Looks good to me, except the steel ingot. Why you made it dark and not shiny? 09:09 Zeno` Fair enough it's just a stringify macro, but... 09:09 LemonLake cya VanessaE 09:09 VanessaE um, little late there, miss bot :P 09:09 LemonLake sfan5 made it work again :P 09:10 sfan5 I wish 09:10 LemonLake you somehow did 09:10 sfan5 tell.py is very broken 09:10 sfan5 and I can't find the bug 09:10 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload tell 09:10 sfan5 makes it work again 09:10 LemonLake call in the exterminators then 09:10 LemonLake get them to gas it out 09:10 sfan5 but after some time it breaks again 09:14 Zeno` so much annoys me in this code 09:14 Zeno` I should just settle down 09:14 Zeno` *sigh* 09:18 Zeno` http://codepad.org/Yn1vJoGX 09:20 Zeno` someday someone will use that macro in a weird way and all hell will break loose 09:22 LemonLake Okay, pipes can successfully take liquid from tanks 09:26 Zeno` http://codepad.org/2VxiUKpU 09:26 reactor Why exactly does it half only the second number, and then add the first one? 09:26 reactor halve* 09:26 Zeno` precedence 09:27 reactor Ah I see, no parentheses. 09:27 Zeno` 2 + 8 / 2 is 2 + 4 09:27 Zeno` yes 09:28 Zeno` it can cause all sorts of problems 09:28 reactor (n) / 2 09:58 jp test 09:58 LemonLake test 10:00 PenguinDad chest 10:01 jp @join crasse.inframonde.net 10:02 reactor Good news! It thrashes CPU even when someone else joins. 10:03 reactor This has never happened before, it could handle up to 30 players. 10:05 Zeno` fantastic news :) 10:05 CWz actually that sound more like bad news 10:05 Zeno` cpu is usage if more efficient than 5 or 6 weeks ago though 10:05 Zeno` so... weird 10:06 reactor I'm seeing rollback going mad. 10:06 reactor It's flooding the log with messages like "16:03:18: INFO[ServerThread]: RollbackManager::reportAction():" for nodes that no one ever touched (the player was just walking on them!) 10:06 Zeno` why is rollback in action? 10:07 * jp slaps Amaz_ around a bit with a large E71-1 10:10 PenguinDad Eww a nokia phone 10:10 reactor Why not? 10:10 reactor There's a nice terminal client for them. 10:12 reactor CWz: "Good news!" was in massive quotes of sarcasm. 10:13 PenguinDad reactor: I'm not sure if there's a terminal client for this one https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Nokia_1200_Macic7_01.jpg 10:13 reactor Heh. I meant Symbian phones. 10:17 crazyR does anyone know if theres a reason the sign formspec dont have location or size's attached to them, they look like this: field[text;;${text}] 10:17 crazyR yet the wiki states they should have the location and size info before the text 10:18 crazyR before the field name i mean 10:20 jp exact, i'm on symbian now 10:20 Krock GIT: SmallJoker commited to SmallJoker/noisetest: Add flat areas ccc7002 2014-07-13T12:18:07+02:00 https://github.com/SmallJoker/noisetest/commit/ccc7002 10:22 PenguinDad Kick Krock she's a unauthorized bot! 10:22 * Krock slaps PenguinDad 10:23 PenguinDad Krock: why? 10:23 Krock Aggressive unauthorized bot 10:23 MinetestBot Jordach: 07-13 13:21 UTC mate that render looks sick 10:26 Jordach huh? 10:26 Jordach wtf MinetestBot 10:26 * Jordach is conufused by the date 10:26 LemonLake Jordach: different timezone 10:26 * PenguinDad is confused by the time 10:26 Krock !tell Jordach mate that render looks sick 10:28 LemonLake oh hey 10:28 LemonLake look what i found in the factory world: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/29cghz4wigrS.png 10:29 * PenguinDad nyans at LemonLake 10:29 LemonLake PenguinDad: ニャー :P 10:30 * Jordach stars ctrl+f12 in blender 10:33 sfan5 Jordach: http://meow.minetest.net/tiles/ 10:33 LemonLake ah, leaflet? 10:33 sfan5 yes 10:33 LemonLake that's good 10:33 LemonLake do you think you'd be able to enable zooming? 10:33 sfan5 yes 10:33 sfan5 but that would make no sense 10:34 sfan5 it would only be on pixel -> more pixels (of the same color) 10:34 sfan5 .. 10:34 sfan5 minetestmapper could probably be changed to use the top texture of the node 10:35 LemonLake i mean, zoom out. 10:37 Krock http://i.imgur.com/lC5htXn.png 10:38 Krock sfan5, aagh.. that minetestmapper generates very good maps... 10:39 sfan5 LemonLake: yes, I could enable that 10:39 PenguinDad there's the depressed ice face again \o/ 10:40 sfan5 lol 10:40 Krock where? 10:40 PenguinDad sfan5: http://meow.minetest.net/tiles/tile_2_8.png 10:40 PenguinDad ^ Krock 10:40 Krock oh 10:40 Krock :) 10:44 LemonLake god...i really don't know what to add to factory 10:45 Jordach blackjack and hookers 10:45 Krock add some mining machines 10:45 LemonLake mining machines? sounds interesting 10:48 LemonLake okay, that will work then 10:55 Hirato_ hmmm... new release of minetest :O 10:55 Hirato_ changelog: Removed finite liquid and weather (proller) 10:55 Hirato_ Hmmm... does this mean freeminer's going to gloat about having those? :P 10:57 LemonLake most likely, yes. 10:57 Hirato_ haha 11:00 Hirato_ rofl 11:00 Hirato_ looking at the last few commits 11:01 Hirato_ https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/2d90aca4ab876e3254f219b1d37f49257556d456 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/3feece1f2887eda368c0a9e42e3ab26b4b754354 like these too 11:01 Hirato_ it's like he just rage-quit and took all his contributions with him, ahahaha 11:03 Krock it's still possible to revert those changes or to use an older minetest build to have some maths-fun 11:05 Hirato_ I see proller's made a lot of 'race' fixes in freeminer 11:07 Hirato_ I see sfan5 isn't kirino anymore 11:07 PenguinDad Hirato_: Freeminer making the impossible possible with tons of black magic and segfaults :D 11:07 Hirato_ haha 11:12 crazyR come on guys, he is just trying to make a good game like everyone else. heck minetest gets its fair share of seg faults some times 11:23 LemonLake Is it wise to store a node owner in metadata? 11:23 LemonLake In order to check if they have permission at an area 11:26 Hirato_ speaking of kirino, I just remembered this image someone posted in my Persona 4 let's play http://i.imgur.com/xINxLal.jpg 11:27 LemonLake dat mousepad 11:27 LemonLake whoa 11:28 LemonLake im gonna watch that anime. now. 11:29 LemonLake and its on animebox <3 11:30 LemonLake i swear i recognise that voice actor 11:31 Hirato_ ore no imouto isn't a very good animu 11:31 LemonLake Ah 11:31 LemonLake He's the same voice actor for Okazaki in Clannad <3 11:31 LemonLake knew it! 11:32 LemonLake AND corpse party, knew I'd heard that voice before clannad 11:32 LemonLake AND hyouka 11:32 LemonLake dude, this is the voice actor of all my fave animes 11:32 SylvieLorxu That means you have a terrible taste 11:32 LemonLake lol 11:32 LemonLake i do 11:32 Hirato_ ahaha 11:32 Hirato_ boku no pico is great... maybe you could watch it? 11:33 SylvieLorxu Hirato_: Y u troll LemonLake? 11:33 SylvieLorxu I mean, that's just mean :P 11:33 Hirato_ implying I tone it down for anyone ._> 11:33 SylvieLorxu Although it sounds cute enough... 11:34 SylvieLorxu But knowing basic anime, it's probably not cute 11:34 PenguinDad Hirato_: go take the lemons! 11:34 LemonLake srsly do 11:34 LemonLake i love nakamura's voice 11:37 sfan5 Hirato_: yes, thats right 11:41 Hirato_ sfan5: about boku no pico being great? 11:42 sfan5 I see sfan5 isn't kirino anymore 11:42 Hirato_ haha 11:42 Hirato_ so why ika musume? 11:43 sfan5 because https://cdn.mediacru.sh/_3jOam8IDem7.jpg 11:43 Hirato_ gods 11:53 LemonLake sfan5: you've seen ore no imouto ga konnani kawaii wake ga nai? 11:54 LemonLake thinking about it, long title 11:54 sfan5 yes, I've seen oreimo 11:54 LemonLake how recent is it? 11:55 sfan5 >Aired: Oct 3, 2010 to Dec 19, 2010 11:55 reactor Woah! 11:55 reactor 17:54 <@reactor> It's totally rollback. 12:01 LemonLake okay thanks 12:06 sfan5 >Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; Long li 12:06 sfan5 ve Windows XP!) 12:06 sfan5 o.O 12:17 SylvieLorxu https://i.4cdn.org/g/1405249136219.png 12:19 Jordach >Jordach >Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:30.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/30.0 12:31 reactor щ? 13:01 Jordach sfan5, i.imgur.com/okZmdgh.jpg 13:01 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/okZmdgh.jpg 13:14 sfan5 Jordach: meow 13:16 * hoodedice suffers from sleeping problems 13:25 Jordach hoodedice, sleep motherfucker sleep 13:25 Jordach don't make me fly over there 13:26 Jordach https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E--R1n3O_m4 13:27 hoodedice Jordach, 8:30 am 13:28 Jordach http://jamesfriend.com.au/pce-js/pce-js-apps/ WOOOOOOOOOOO 13:28 hoodedice Problem is: I slept from 9 pm to 2 am. Then couldn't sleep afterwards. I can't sleep because I slept enough, but also want to sleep because I might fall asleep at a bad time 13:29 hoodedice Sucks to run that emu on Xubuntu 13:30 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/l0g_q-ezCQBf.png 13:30 Jordach MS Word everybody 13:32 hoodedice I miss Windows 98 13:35 hoodedice I'm gonna buy a pi 13:35 hoodedice Got my allowance, and a $10 coupon. XD 13:42 PenguinDad hoodedice: Strawberry es are much better 13:43 hoodedice lmgt 13:43 hoodedice I'm not getting anything relevant (?) 13:44 PenguinDad hoodedice: you don't get the joke do you? 13:44 hoodedice I was not sure if it was a joke. 13:44 sfan5 hoodedice: buy a banana pi 13:44 hoodedice -.- 13:44 hoodedice Is that also a joke? 13:44 sfan5 no 13:45 hoodedice > China. 13:45 hoodedice But raspi is also China anyway 13:45 sfan5 yeah 13:45 sfan5 soldered in UK, but the CPU is probably from China anyway 13:46 PenguinDad And if the CPU is not from China it's from another asian country 13:47 hoodedice sfan, $50 for banana pi? 13:47 hoodedice I can't spare that much, I'm getting the pi for $30 13:48 sfan5 lol 13:48 hoodedice What? Spare some pity for a poor college student 13:48 * VanessaE peeks in 13:49 * sfan5 meows at VanessaE 13:49 VanessaE hi 13:49 * hoodedice shuts doors 13:49 * LemonLake reads logs while the intro song plays 13:49 VanessaE meow :) 13:49 sfan5 VanessaE: http://meow.minetest.net/tiles/ 13:49 VanessaE sfan5: kick BlockMen's ass for me re: that damn ingot texture, please? :) 13:49 LemonLake why are anime girls always so fucking cute? 13:50 VanessaE hm, nice viewer 13:50 hoodedice VanessaE, I can kick it for you 13:50 sfan5 LemonLake: because moe 13:50 LemonLake sfan5: moe? 13:50 hoodedice Have to discuss camera with him anyway 13:50 VanessaE LemonLake: because the Japanese aren't as uptight as the western world so they're not afraid to make their characters attractive. 13:50 sfan5 !g moe 13:50 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.moe.org/ 13:51 sfan5 uhh nope 13:51 hoodedice "ooh barbie is pretty, this is bad for ugly girls, because they will feel not pretty" 13:51 LemonLake VanessaE: i see 13:51 sfan5 !g moe site:urbandictionary.com 13:51 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=moe 13:51 hoodedice -- 'Muricans. 13:51 VanessaE hoodedice: more or less, yeah 13:51 hoodedice -- -- My English Lecturer. 13:52 LemonLake ohh 13:52 LemonLake i see 13:52 VanessaE sfan5: small iceberg out to the left in the middle of the water.. looks sad :( 13:52 reactor What is that stupid gag about people saying "kivmi" instead of "give me" in MT? 13:53 reactor "kivmi 99 ammo" 13:53 hoodedice reactor, they are all prolly playing on iPads 13:53 sfan5 VanessaE: there's the depressed ice face again \o/ 13:53 hoodedice surprise, Minetest on iPad 13:53 hoodedice JK, zwizzing buildcraft 13:53 hoodedice Meowtest, 6 kids, 4 of them using build craft 13:54 reactor Voice recognition? 13:56 hoodedice http://www.microcenter.com/product/414588/Raspberry_Pi_Model_B Muricans, go grab a pi if you haven't already, $10 off 13:56 * sfan5 isn't in the US 13:56 VanessaE meh, don't care about much about the RPI 13:57 hoodedice I don't need it... for now 13:57 reactor Now I get it why you people don't like Buildcraft so much. Heh. It brings all kinds of idiots ingame. 13:57 hoodedice ^ 13:57 VanessaE reactor: and it's outdated 13:57 VanessaE busted in many ways 13:57 hoodedice Lots of white suburban teenage kids and their iPads, ostly 13:57 hoodedice *mostly 13:57 hoodedice (pun intended) 13:57 LemonLake even japan takes the piss out of amazon for the amount of useless shit they put in their boxes 13:57 reactor From Russian schoolboys who refuse to speak English and kill everyone who doesn't speak Russian to plain imbeciles who can't read. 13:58 hoodedice I actually called out a few kids and explained them that buildcraft is illegal 13:58 hoodedice And that they should ask their parents to download Minetest on Android instead 13:58 sfan5 hoodedice: they don't care 13:58 VanessaE and THIS is why my servers have rules and no PvP (except on the free-for-all server) 13:58 hoodedice I know, but I did my job 13:58 VanessaE read and fullow the rules or gtfo. 13:58 VanessaE follow* 13:58 reactor Mine have, too. Nobody ever bothers to read them. Eh. 13:59 reactor I had to ban 50 people one day. 13:59 hoodedice reactor, /kick is your friend. 13:59 hoodedice oh, so you befriended /ban 13:59 reactor Dirt houses and spawnkilling, yay \o/ 13:59 hoodedice I don't see a problem with dirt houses 13:59 LemonLake ^ 13:59 reactor They don't fit in Pripyat. 13:59 hoodedice Thanks Lemons 13:59 LemonLake ? 13:59 hoodedice I hope life gives me more lemons 14:00 reactor It's okay if they were building them _behind_ big buildings. 14:00 hoodedice " ^" 14:00 sfan5 From Russian schoolboys who refuse to speak English and kill everyone who doesn't speak Russian to plain imbeciles who can't read. 14:00 reactor hoodedice: what's the point, you'll have to give them back! 14:00 VanessaE on FFA I made it clear: no admin support except to deal with abusive/coarse language. players make and enforce the rules otherwise. 14:00 sfan5 I haven't seen a single kyrillic char. on meowtest yet 14:00 hoodedice " players make and enforce the rules otherwise." 14:00 hoodedice inb4 the following: 14:00 reactor VanessaE: oh I gotta see that! In my place that would lead to anarchy :( 14:00 hoodedice Hey give me my stuff back 14:01 hoodedice Nooo you dropt it 14:01 VanessaE tough shit. :) 14:01 hoodedice noob1 stole stuff 14:01 reactor I've tried to give some people extended privileges to ban abusers, only to see them abuse themselves. 14:01 VanessaE sucks to be you if you can't protect your shit 14:01 hoodedice what? 14:01 VanessaE "no admin support" --> "Griefing reports will not be accepted" (or some words to that effect) 14:02 hoodedice noob1 stole stuff from noob2 14:02 hoodedice I DECLARE WAR! 14:02 hoodedice *everyone jumps on noob1* 14:02 hoodedice Neither noob1 nor noob2 are seen on the server again. 14:02 reactor < sfan5> From Russian schoolboys who refuse to speak English and kill everyone who doesn't speak Russian to plain imbeciles who can't read. 14:02 reactor <_< 14:02 reactor Overquoting. 14:10 hoodedice https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9747 14:11 hoodedice ^Why am I thinking that the problem is caused by the guy not placing torches... 14:11 reactor < sfan5> I haven't seen a single kyrillic char 14:11 reactor You lucky you! 14:14 PenguinDad hoodedice: I'm thinking the same about that issue 14:16 Jordach ShadowNinja, get your butt into the +i channel 14:17 Jordach just found a bug 14:17 Jordach tl;dr i can at will do /grant Jordach all on the forums 14:18 hoodedice lel 14:19 Jordach Founders cannot be banned, changed by non founders. (includes big perms) 14:20 Jordach back to producing a slight transparency report :P 14:21 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/R7edVK46Hr2C.png 14:22 VanessaE bbl 14:23 hoodedice Avatar directory size = 3 MB 14:23 hoodedice All avatars are just 3 zwizzing MB?! 14:23 hoodedice lol 14:24 reactor That's actually good. 14:24 LemonLake anime logic 14:25 LemonLake > makes up some fancy 'beegle' brand 14:25 LemonLake clearly says 'google/ 14:25 reactor Rather than gigabytes of avatars and just a bunch of messages. 14:26 reactor 1080p GIF avatars, everyone! \o/ 14:26 LemonLake u, 14:26 LemonLake um 14:27 hoodedice \O/ 14:27 reactor \ъ/ 14:28 Jordach just posted 14:28 Jordach but my count still says 3999 14:28 Jordach explain 14:29 hoodedice I HAVE THE ANSWER 14:29 hoodedice "42" 14:29 Jordach nope 14:29 Jordach lel 14:29 Jordach i've actually been doing this for a while 14:30 Jordach ecutruin1, /nick ecutruin :3 14:30 Jordach i just noticed you're here 14:32 Jordach btw, i used 0.2-09112011 up until Jan 2012 14:32 Jordach because SSE2 D: 14:36 alket how to find my land in multiplayer server ? 14:36 alket im lost 14:37 fireglow I have around 8 seconds lags with seven people on the server 14:39 AnotherBrick alket i don't know how to find, i know how not to loose 14:39 AnotherBrick just write down your coordinates 14:39 hoodedice Forgot to ask, how do you make your lua code in minetest output something? 14:39 hoodedice like print "42"? 14:39 fireglow lol: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=89825#p89825 14:40 alket AnotherBrick: ah yes , thanks 14:40 Calinou print("42") 14:40 Calinou but what you want to use is minetest.log("action", "42") 14:40 Calinou to log it with a timestamp and prefix 14:40 Calinou minetest.log("error", "math is broke") 14:40 Calinou for errors 14:40 Calinou (will show in chat and console) 14:40 hoodedice if I used print as is, where would I see output? 14:41 Calinou in the console, without any prefix. 14:41 Calinou use for mod loading prints 14:41 hoodedice hmm, thanks 14:41 Calinou if minetest.setting_getbool("log_mods") then print("[moreblocks] loaded.") end 14:41 Calinou at the end of your mod :p 14:42 hoodedice aha, got it 14:46 * Calinou found a Rainbow Dash on a pixel art server 14:47 Calinou as well as someone dating, as usual 14:54 * Calinou is working on diamond/Mese rebalance 15:04 PenguinDad Will mese finally be stronger than diamond? 15:05 Calinou faster, but will not last long (as long as steel probably) 15:05 Calinou diamond will have mese speed, if not slower 15:05 Calinou TL;DR make diamond not overpowered and make Mese useful for people who already have diamond 15:07 Calinou Mese tools are lightweight, they do the damage as diamond, but have a lower full punch interval 15:13 Jordach TL;R Calinou stole my fucking idea 15:14 reactor Jordach: http://xkcd.com/90/ 15:15 Jordach hah 15:15 Calinou it's not stealing 15:15 PenguinDad I wonder if there's anything like TC for minetest 15:15 Calinou did you lose the idea from your head? 15:15 Calinou TC? 15:15 PenguinDad Calinou: Tinkers' Construct 15:16 Jordach PenguinDad, i had an attempt 15:16 Krock hi 15:16 PenguinDad In BFD I guess 15:18 LemonLake PenguinDad: what part of it, specifically? 15:18 PenguinDad hi Krock 15:18 LemonLake or, the entire mod? 15:18 LemonLake it's a big mod 15:18 LemonLake I'm actually working on a mod called 'jurgen tools' which has small aspects of it 15:19 PenguinDad LemonLake: mainly the modular tool crafting part 15:20 LemonLake yeah 15:20 LemonLake i have something kiiinda like that 15:20 LemonLake but im thinking of ditching the plan 15:20 Calinou now the hardest part… testing the tools 15:20 LemonLake why is that hard? 15:21 Calinou making sure they're balanced, nothing is overpowered or underpowered 15:21 Calinou I did an important structural change to the game 15:22 LemonLake "WindomsGXP" "WindomsVesto" 15:22 LemonLake *facepalm* 15:23 PenguinDad LemonLake: "WisdomXD" :P 15:24 Jordach LemonLake, Ukuntu :D 15:25 Calinou my tweaks seem to be good, pushing… 15:25 Calinou Jordach, Fudora (-: 15:25 Calinou FUD-ora 15:25 Calinou it could describe it well… 15:28 Calinou Carbone: Separate detail and global glass textures, make Mese tools faster but less durable, make diamond tools slower. Make sticks easier to craft and store. 15:32 Jordach http://paste.debian.net/109494 15:32 Jordach ^ BFD todo list 15:35 Calinou paste.debian.net, ugh 15:36 Calinou http://0bin.net/ is a nice pastebin, encrypted 15:39 jordan4ibanez Whoa 15:40 jordan4ibanez We can make entire biomes, map gen, structures, and water ways without any lag now? 15:45 PenguinDad > without any lag 15:45 PenguinDad sorry but that's impossible 15:45 LemonLake ^ 15:46 Calinou depends on server resources, jordan4ibanez, but Lua mapgen can be fast enough to be usable 15:46 Calinou it'll still be way slower than a C++ mapgen like v6 15:54 Jordach v7 is reasonabvle 15:54 Calinou meh, it's not so natural 15:54 Calinou but the good thing is, you define biomes by yourself, it's more modular 15:55 Krock <3 lua mapgen 15:55 PenguinDad I've always disabled the biomeblend mg_flag 15:56 Calinou I like biomeblend 15:56 Jordach biomeblend is a yes and no 15:56 Jordach if V7 had it, it'd be nice 15:57 PenguinDad but you should be able to disable it 15:59 reactor Night! 16:01 Calinou /time 6000 16:01 Calinou no longer night 16:02 fireglow :) 16:04 Krock /set time_speed 0 16:04 Krock /time 12000 16:04 fireglow someone built a glass clock again 16:04 Krock horray! 16:37 MinetestBot kaeza: 07-07 18:02 UTC https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig/commit/694a4a8fc1190802e7b5646d8d08696f373fd973 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHfmoG4MUIQ 16:38 kaeza MinetestBot! 16:38 MinetestBot kaeza! 16:38 kaeza afternoons 16:39 kaeza Jordach, nice 16:45 LemonLake last episode of season 1 of ore no imouto 16:54 MinetestBot EvergreenTree: 07-09 15:44 UTC https://github.com/rubenwardy/NodeBoxEditor/blob/master/CMakeLists.txt#L23 try changing to find_package(PNG version REQUIRED) where version is the version of libpng. ie: find_package(PNG 12.3.6 REQUIRED). If it doesn't work, fiddle around with quotes ("12.3.6") and full versions (libpng-12.3.6) 17:11 LemonLake that anime was actually really good 17:23 * Krock meows at DogePony 17:23 * DogePony pets Krock 17:26 MinetestBot BlockMen: 07-07 04:22 UTC Need to edit Wiki main page to reflect latest Minetest Version 17:26 MinetestBot GIT: BlockMen commited to minetest/minetest_game: Add protection to TNT (by @tenplus1) 3180bdf 2014-07-13T19:24:57+02:00 http://git.io/PZQNBg 17:28 sfan5 Calinou: http://meow.minetest.net/tiles/ 17:30 Calinou yay, yet another “Minetest on Steam” topic 17:30 Calinou sfan5, very nice, but can't zoom? the buttons don't work 17:31 sfan5 zoom doesn't make much sense 17:31 sfan5 +in 17:31 Calinou it would, to see details 17:31 Calinou and to see all the map easily 17:31 sfan5 zoom out is not done because it's just a fast mockup 17:31 Calinou nice, your mapper handles transparency 17:31 sfan5 s/mockup/non-properly done thing/ 17:32 Calinou which one do you use? C++? 17:32 sfan5 thats not my mapper 17:32 sfan5 it's the official C++ one 17:32 Calinou OK 17:32 Calinou I meant, the mapper you used 17:32 Calinou I'll clone it 17:33 sfan5 use --drawalpha 17:33 sfan5 I finally make that feature work 17:33 sfan5 (this is the transparency you talked about) 17:33 * Krock wants .exe 17:33 Calinou need libgd? :o 17:34 sfan5 ys 17:34 sfan5 yes* 17:34 Calinou need libvpx-dev? O_o 17:34 Calinou for installing libgd-dev 17:35 Calinou my map.png has tons of empty space :/ 17:37 Calinou lol I got a 72 × 72 PNG file with X, Z and a player marker 17:37 PenguinDad !c math.e * math.e 17:37 MinetestBot 7.3890560989306495 17:37 Calinou “./minetestmapper -i ~/.minetest/worlds/server -o map.png --draworigin --drawplayers --drawscale --drawalpha” → always segfaults 17:37 Calinou drawalpha is the thing that makes it segfault 17:37 PenguinDad ^ Krock 17:38 * Krock gives PenguinDad access violation 17:38 sfan5 Calinou: -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug and gdb 'bt full' pleae 17:38 fireglow is there a way I can make torches give light when they're hold? 17:38 sfan5 please* 17:39 PenguinDad Krock: I meant 7.3890560989306495 because it's e×e 17:39 Krock ... 17:39 Calinou how do I specify parameters to an application with gdb? 17:40 Calinou fireglow, there's a pull request for that, but it's old and not merged because it required shaders; it gave an advantage to players who could use shaders 17:40 sfan5 gdb --args ./app -l ication 17:40 fireglow humm 17:40 fireglow indeed, it's quite useful 17:40 Krock PenguinDad, that's 0.73890560989306495 cuz of . 17:42 MinetestBot GIT: Novatux commited to minetest/minetest_game: Better ingot textures c521cb0 2014-07-13T19:37:01+02:00 http://git.io/-yGU3g 17:42 Calinou warning, horrondeous output: http://0bin.net/paste/O5FKuIkmGinhzhO2#VZMfKIywdfxuZMTpMMIVJintbY-wY9jEJ3CaoiOK+F/ 17:42 PenguinDad Krock: double dots aren't allowed so I dropped the first one 17:43 PenguinDad Shiny steel ingots :( 17:51 Krock hey john_minetest 17:55 Calinou TNT now obeys protection in Carbone (tested, working) 17:56 * kaeza puts a Mese Nuke on Calinou's head 17:57 asl lol, the old gold texture really does look like a block of cheese 17:57 Calinou no Iron/Mese TNT, didn't bother adding them 17:58 Calinou john_minetest, yes and yes 17:58 Calinou rat and sheep 17:58 Calinou it has limited Mesecons (to not be too heavy) 17:58 Calinou no micro/Luacontrollers and blinkyplants, most otably 17:58 Calinou notably* 17:59 * asl think the new gold texture still look like cheese 17:59 LemonLake sfan5: is it just me or in season 2 are the girls literally 17:59 LemonLake white 17:59 LemonLake like...whit 17:59 LemonLake e 18:00 sfan5 season 2 of oreimo? 18:00 LemonLake ye 18:00 sfan5 haven't seen that 18:00 LemonLake the girls are all white, like, full on fuck off white 18:00 sfan5 Calinou: which compiler? 18:03 Calinou gcc 18:03 sfan5 version? 18:03 Calinou gcc (Ubuntu 4.8.2-19ubuntu1) 4.8.2 18:04 sfan5 hm 18:04 sfan5 I have no clue why it might not be working 18:06 LemonLake okay, i think the reason they're all fuck off white is because the recorder's color setup was wrong 18:06 MinetestBot GIT: cupofinsane commited to minetest/minetest_game: Alias string to cotton 5175897 2014-07-13T20:04:14+02:00 http://git.io/qo3RgA 18:13 Calinou finally 18:14 LemonLake one thing about this anime is that it gives no fucks about trademarks 18:24 Krock http://i.imgur.com/mW0daRE.png 18:29 Calinou you should really enable mip-maps :p 18:29 Calinou nice buildings 18:29 Krock hmm? *looks up what mip-maps do* 18:32 * Krock sees, it doesn't look nice when mip mapping is enabled 18:36 Calinou smoothens textures, may give a few FPS more 18:36 LemonLake and it doesnt kill eyes 18:41 jordan4ibanez So can I use the voxel api to modify the terrain on the fly or is it for mapgen only? 18:42 PenguinDad jordan4ibanez: you can use voxmynipples all the time 18:43 PenguinDad *voxmanips 18:43 jordan4ibanez PenguinDad, is there a tutorial for basic adding and removing blocks? 18:43 jordan4ibanez and lol 18:43 PilzAdam PenguinDad, it's called "VoxelManipulator" 18:44 PenguinDad PilzAdam: I know that :P 18:44 PilzAdam jordan4ibanez, you could look at existing mods; there are no tutorials yet AFAIK 18:45 jordan4ibanez What mods use this api? 18:46 PilzAdam my nether mod 18:46 PilzAdam worldedit should use it too, not sure if it really does 18:46 PenguinDad jordan4ibanez: https://github.com/Uberi/Minetest-WorldEdit 18:51 sfan5 o/ jordan4ibanez 18:53 jordan4ibanez \o sfan5 18:53 jordan4ibanez PilzAdam, you should set the lightlevel in the nether to at least half bright 18:54 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: http://i.imgur.com/iEyDY2z.jpg 18:54 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: http://meow.minetest.net/tiles/ 18:55 jordan4ibanez what is meow.minetest? 18:55 jordan4ibanez And that looks just like my cat 18:55 Calinou sfan5's domain 18:55 * Krock found the sad face again 18:56 sfan5 I'll maybe add that later 18:57 Krock > JavaScript 18:57 sfan5 Krock: what else would you use? 18:58 Krock well, some people dislike javascript but there's no real alternative 18:58 Krock john_minetest, the world is huge 18:59 PenguinDad Krock: there is one coffeescript :P 18:59 Krock PenguinDad, yeah. that's like javascript.. 18:59 SylvieLorxu I'm sure Javascript is way more overused than necessary 18:59 SylvieLorxu HTML5 and CSS3 allow you to create great sites without a single line of JS 19:00 * Krock gives SylvieLorxu Netscape Navigator 19:01 SylvieLorxu People who use Netscape don't deserve to see a website as it is meant to be seen anyway 19:01 SylvieLorxu Yes 19:01 Krock it doesn't speak 19:01 SylvieLorxu I used it back in the Windows 95 days 19:01 PenguinDad Krock: why would you support browsers from the last millenium? 19:07 Krock PenguinDad, YOLO 19:08 Krock I mean SWAG 19:09 PilzAdam "Swag, a type of window valance, often in combination with a full curtain underneath" 19:09 Krock window+s 19:09 * Krock headdesks 19:10 PenguinDad Krock: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SWAG&defid=6132562 :P 19:10 Krock AAAAAAAAAA 19:10 Krock *runs away* 19:11 jordan4ibanez So when I call 19:11 jordan4ibanez local vm, emin, emax = minetest.get_mapgen_object("voxelmanip") 19:11 jordan4ibanez local data = vm:get_data() 19:12 jordan4ibanez vm is a nil value 19:12 Krock don't use it as mapgen object 19:12 PilzAdam get_mapgen_object() only works in mapgen callbacks 19:12 Krock ^ 19:12 jordan4ibanez So what would I substitute with that? 19:12 Krock vm = minetest.get_voxel_manip() 19:13 Krock emin, emax = vm:read_from_map(minp, maxp) 19:13 Krock the rest is the same 19:13 PilzAdam local vm = VoxelManip() should work too 19:15 Krock much ways, same results 19:23 jordan4ibanez So it doesn't crash, but it doesn't remove any blocks either hmmm 19:24 Krock how about writing to map? 19:25 jordan4ibanez http://pastie.org/pastes/9386075/text?key=piiumfzvrjpcfptef84aq 19:25 Krock \tvm:set_data(data)\n\tvm:write_to_map() 19:26 Krock use vector.subtract and vector.add to clean up that stuff 19:26 PilzAdam data[np] = "air" <- this is wrong 19:26 jordan4ibanez So I have to use a var in place of string? 19:26 Krock c_air = minetest.get_content_id("air") 19:26 Krock use c_air 19:27 jordan4ibanez OH 19:27 jordan4ibanez oh 19:28 jordan4ibanez But I have no idea what you mean when you sent \tvm:set_data(data)\n\tvm:write_to_map() 19:28 jordan4ibanez \n = new line? 19:28 Krock that's rubbish. I se you already got that stuff 19:28 jordan4ibanez Man this api is less user friendly than I am 19:28 jordan4ibanez Do I have to use the data info in each command? 19:32 Krock jordan4ibanez, liek dis: http://pastebin.com/vj3zGZWL 19:41 jordan4ibanez Hmmm, isn't this supposed to be faster than set node? 19:41 jordan4ibanez Or is there a way to force update chunks 19:41 Krock both 19:42 jordan4ibanez how i do diz 19:44 jordan4ibanez So update_map() updates the entire map? :O 19:45 Krock jordan4ibanez, "local emin, emax = vm:read_from_map(minp, maxp)" and "vm:write_to_map()". Do you think it updates the complete world? 19:46 jordan4ibanez OH vm:update_map() 19:46 jordan4ibanez Starting to understand 19:47 jordan4ibanez WHOA 19:47 jordan4ibanez that's fucking fast 19:48 Krock censor pls. children are here. 19:48 LemonLake Krock: there always is 19:48 Krock s/is/are 19:49 * Krock <3 self-made binaries 19:52 PenguinDad 10100001110010101010101110101010101111111111100000001111 19:52 LemonLake the animators of oreimo really had a lot of time 19:52 PenguinDad ^ self-made binary 19:52 LemonLake a new intro/outro every ep 19:52 LemonLake and the composers, actually 19:52 LemonLake new song 19:52 * PenguinDad doesn't have that much time 19:53 sfan5 LemonLake: they even made a full length OP for the whole OP song 19:53 LemonLake yep 19:53 sfan5 seen it? 19:53 LemonLake no but i was told of it 19:53 jordan4ibanez This is what we wanted 2 years ago sfan5 and now it's REAL 19:53 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/cHZiS6q.jpg 19:54 jordan4ibanez radius = 50 19:54 * Krock takes away LemonLake synthisizer 19:54 PenguinDad dat os 19:54 Krock jordan4ibanez, too small 19:54 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: remember when I made that youtube video about nuking a map? 19:57 jordan4ibanez No I'm sorry I dont 19:57 jordan4ibanez Do you still have it sfan5 ? 19:57 sfan5 k 19:57 sfan5 s/k/yes/ 19:59 jordan4ibanez Where it be 19:59 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jeld8l49LQo 20:01 jordan4ibanez_ Lol I did radius 400 and it crashed my computer 20:02 Krock use a new map with less generated terrain 20:03 jordan4ibanez_ Let's try 150 20:03 jordan4ibanez_ And sfan5 that video is 2nostalgic4me 20:03 sfan5 meow 20:04 sfan5 !server Meowtest 20:04 MinetestBot sfan5: Meowtest 0.4.10 "SEGFAULTY" | minetest.org:30018 | Clients: 11/25, 0/19 | Version: 0.4.10-rc1 / meowtest_game | Ping: 22ms 20:04 sfan5 /\ john_minetest 20:04 sfan5 ninjakitten 20:06 Krock !server 0.4.9-dev_MSVC 20:06 MinetestBot Krock: No results 20:06 Krock of. it searchs for title 20:09 jordan4ibanez_ So when I did radius 150 I thought it crashed, but it just sort of flipped out http://imgur.com/JQeryRt,OF3Ebpe,Td3Reds#0 20:10 Krock cuz the blocks wheren't generated yet 20:11 Krock fill it with water!!!! 20:11 jordan4ibanez_ NEVAHHHH 20:12 Krock messsiii yess 20:17 * Krock found a mese block with a regular mese ore above 20:18 sfan5 jordan4ibanez_: we should do fun stuff in minetest again some time 20:19 jordan4ibanez_ Yes, yes, this thursday I have the day off so we can do it then 20:19 sfan5 \o/ 20:21 jordan4ibanez_ What would we even do though? 20:38 LemonLake shame 20:38 LemonLake i dont think i can finish oreimo today 20:38 LemonLake there's still 9 eps left :/ 20:40 PenguinDad "Wanted: (-302,29,-288) , (-298,33,-284) Got: (-304,16,-288) , (-289,47,-273)" The size of an LVM isn't always what you wanted :( 20:41 Krock wut? 20:43 PenguinDad Krock: code producing this output http://0bin.net/paste/Uh-iVCvU1ZnRRvrn#PpPEtHGbZwV5itp076ZSG1GRjv-yEhdyZ2u/L9MwB7B 20:44 Krock PenguinDad, it must be that way 20:44 fireglow yeah, that's annoying as heck, john_minetest 20:44 Krock emin != minp 20:47 nore PenguinDad: it will always be bigger than your request 20:47 nore that's why VoxelArea is useful :) 21:06 Megaf Hi everyone, this thing at 5 GHz must be the perfect minetest server CPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113347 21:06 LemonLake i doubt there's a 'perfect server cpu' 21:07 Ivalin how to use minetest translations ? 21:07 Megaf perfect for minetest 21:07 Megaf minetest likes high clock 21:15 PenguinDad now I know why there's VoxelArea 21:16 PenguinDad and this condition makes no sense https://github.com/Uberi/Minetest-WorldEdit/blob/master/worldedit/manipulations.lua#L51 21:21 Jordach anyone up for my support of the current game? 21:21 Jordach (eg, arg vs ger) 21:25 PenguinDad Jordach: is germany winning? 21:25 LemonLake wouldn't surprise me 21:25 Jordach GERMANS SCORED 1-0 21:26 Jordach 01,01asdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsd 21:26 Jordach 04,04asdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsd 21:26 Jordach 08,08asdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsd 21:26 LemonLake whoa 21:26 LemonLake random numbers ^.^ 21:27 PenguinDad 05,03I 04,11c07,09a08,06n 03,08h09,08e10,12a11,09r 02,10i12,06f 06,02g13,12e05,08r04,07m07,13a08,12n03,09y 09,03w10,06i11,06n02,08s 12,11\06,08o13,10/ 21:27 Jordach PenguinDad, you have a TV! 21:27 * sfan5 meows at Jordach 21:27 Jordach PenguinDad, or i broadcast my desktop 21:27 PenguinDad Jordach: without TV or your desktop 21:27 Jordach PenguinDad, streamin :3 21:28 Jordach 720p, HD :3 21:28 Jordach (and no that's overskill for streaming) 21:28 sfan5 Jordach: where? 21:28 * sfan5 would really like 1080p or 4K streams 21:28 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/okZmdgh.jpg 21:29 PenguinDad Jordach: I just have to hear the reactions of my neighbours :P 21:29 Jordach second hand euphoria is not a substitute 21:29 Jordach messi missed! 21:29 Jordach missi messi :D 21:30 * sfan5 meows at john_minetest 21:30 * john_minetest gives sfan5 a <'(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((--< 21:30 * sfan5 nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooms it 21:31 Jordach wtf is scheinstein made of 21:31 sfan5 of stone 21:31 sfan5 wait no 21:31 sfan5 schweinsteiger is titaniuuuuummm 21:32 Jordach +2 minutes D: 21:33 Jordach FOUL! D: 21:33 PenguinDad O: 21:33 sfan5 D: 21:35 Jordach HE MISSED 21:35 PenguinDad john_minetest is getting serious O: 21:35 * sfan5 meows at PenguinDad 21:35 sfan5 !op 21:36 LemonLake !pop 21:36 jojoa1997 hello 21:36 PenguinDad !voice 21:36 sfan5 !voice PenguinDad 21:36 PenguinDad Germany wins!!1! 21:36 Jordach brb 21:36 Jordach moving ton Germany 21:37 Jordach the German Football Machine :3 21:37 Jordach it's no longer a war machine 21:38 * sfan5 meows at Jordach 21:38 jojoa1997 oh God the cats 21:38 * sfan5 meows at jojoa1997 21:38 sfan5 !deop sfan5 21:38 sfan5 !voice sfan5 21:39 Jordach still making beautiful guns :D 21:39 Jordach !voice john_minetest 21:39 Jordach if you're german, get a free voice 21:39 * PenguinDad meows Jordach 21:39 Jordach or european 21:39 sfan5 !voice kahrl 21:40 * jojoa1997 is haveing flashbacks atm 21:40 Jordach !voice Sokomine 21:40 Jordach !voice xnrand 21:40 sfan5 !voice Sokomine 21:40 sfan5 xnrand is german? 21:40 Jordach yes 21:40 Jordach iirc 21:40 Jordach i want to see tomorrows headlines from Germany 21:41 * sfan5 throws german newspapers at Jordach 21:46 LemonLake some saddos have nothing better to do 21:47 Jordach we need 5v5 minetest world cup football 21:47 LemonLake is there a ball mod 21:47 sfan5 yes 21:47 Jordach there should be 21:48 Jordach my bro just text me this 21:48 Jordach Germany have finally won something since world war 1 :L 21:48 sfan5 :L 21:49 * sfan5 curls up to Jordach's lap 21:49 Jordach mew 21:49 * Jordach pets sfan5 21:49 * sfan5 purrs 21:49 LemonLake um 21:50 Jordach pro footballer with a iPhone 5c 21:50 Jordach holy shite 21:51 Jordach the tears of argentinian kids will flood the brazilian streets :P 21:52 sfan5 :D 21:53 Jordach what do they taste of; SWEET GERMAN VICTORY 21:53 * sfan5 orders Jordach to fly to Germany 21:54 hoodedice Hello miners! 21:54 hoodedice Time for some serious discussion 21:55 Jordach FOOTBALL! FOOTBALL! 21:55 sfan5 hoodedice: Germany won 21:55 PenguinDad hoodedice: Germany wins!!1! 21:55 hoodedice After yet another round of Minetest with Steam integration, and after having much discussion 21:55 hoodedice Zwizzing hell people 21:55 hoodedice Listen! 21:55 * sfan5 is a cat 21:55 fireglow meow? 21:55 * LemonLake is a piece of trash 21:55 fireglow crumple crumple? 21:55 LemonLake ^ 21:55 LemonLake love it 21:55 * Jordach made a new sig 21:56 * PenguinDad is a penguin 21:56 hoodedice So, After yet another round of Minetest with Steam integration, and after having much discussion 21:56 Jordach germany won the world cup, the end 21:56 LemonLake fuck it 21:56 LemonLake hmm... 21:56 LemonLake i think i'll watch one or two more episodes of this anime 21:56 LemonLake then i have to sleep 21:56 * sfan5 meows at fireglow 21:56 hoodedice I've decided that even if the community pays the initial $100, we don't have enough money for sick features like auto login, and join server 21:57 hoodedice Which requires hosting by steam 21:57 hoodedice Even the most coveted feature, the Workshop seemingly requires steam hosting 21:57 LemonLake duh 21:57 hoodedice As such, after reading up on some discussion on steam about GPL based games 21:58 hoodedice The consensus was that desura was a better platform for free and open games 21:58 hoodedice It has a modding community. 21:58 hoodedice It has support for linux based games. And multiple platform based games 21:58 hoodedice It is largely used for indie games 21:59 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=332 21:59 hoodedice I have not yet read the ToS and EULA, but I have been told that desura is GPL friendly 21:59 hoodedice Jordach, "Age: 18" 21:59 hoodedice u wot m8? siriusly? 22:00 Jordach seriously 22:00 LemonLake hoodedice: yes, seriously 22:00 hoodedice lel 22:00 hoodedice I thought you were like, 21 something 22:00 LemonLake i thought it was obvious 22:00 hoodedice So, any remarks on my proposition? 22:00 hoodedice sfan5! 22:01 sfan5 no 22:01 hoodedice why? 22:03 hoodedice Also note that the desura client is GPLv3 22:05 jordan4ibanez_ Here is the api 22:05 jordan4ibanez_ http://pastie.org/pastes/9386888/text?key=jgipuhkwg1ucks9rsp9g 22:06 jordan4ibanez_ Here is the attempted application 22:06 jordan4ibanez_ http://pastie.org/pastes/9386890/text?key=gny2f2k5y5itiimytxtv5a 22:06 jordan4ibanez_ I have no idea why this doesn't work, everything appears to be fine 22:07 hoodedice what is the error? 22:12 hoodedice sucks to be me. 22:13 Jordach Today on #minetest, hoodedice learns that nobody gives a fuck, including the omnioptent narrator. 22:14 * hoodedice thinks of bumping the discussion on #minetest-dev 22:14 Jordach i wouldn't 22:14 hoodedice Wasn't celeron supportive of a steam integration? 22:19 LemonLake just one more ep...just one more ep... 22:21 Nerotic Long time since I have logged in. 22:22 hoodedice Hello 22:23 PenguinDad Hi Nerotic 22:24 Nerotic yo 22:24 Nerotic gtg 22:25 hoodedice lol 22:32 Jordach !title http://imgur.com/gallery/WjfCP3N 22:32 MinetestBot Jordach: While in the Bing offices... - Imgur 22:45 Jordach i found gold http://imgur.com/gallery/Lv7zGVe 23:08 LemonLake im gonna get some sleep now 23:08 LemonLake gnight 23:15 Guest13235 GO GERMANY GO!? 23:16 Guest13235 -? 23:16 PenguinDad Guest13235: Germany wins!!1! 23:21 * Jordach slaps VanessaE 23:21 Jordach kaeza_, i watched :D 23:21 VanessaE ow. 23:26 hoodedice https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=148374#p148374 23:32 VanessaE bbl 23:39 jordan4ibanez_ How do I get the name of a node with content id? 23:39 jordan4ibanez_ I have vm:get_data() and I tried vm:get_data().name 23:41 jordan4ibanez_ http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Ilq8SzToP6I/U1Em0tvn4ZI/AAAAAAAAZIQ/gyJ4Elwc8dQ/s1600/out+of+ideas.png 23:41 jordan4ibanez_ and right now this api documentation is poop 23:44 * hoodedice thinks that his chats are invisible 23:46 jordan4ibanez_ who said that 23:53 Dogzilla131 I have a question of height 23:53 Dogzilla131 How high do you need to be to not make a shadow? 23:53 jordan4ibanez_ out of loaded chunks 23:57 jordan4ibanez_ This is how you get name from new voxel api minetest.get_name_from_content_id(vm:get_data(np)[1])