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00:02 MinetestBot Zeno`: 06-27 04:19 UTC <WindHero>  I have to go eat dinner, but I pushed a commit. Enjoy!
00:02 WindHero rofl
00:02 WindHero good thing I didn't wait around yesterday :P
00:02 WindHero hi Zeno`
00:02 Zeno` hi :)
00:03 Zeno` how's things?
00:04 WindHero good
00:04 WindHero made a small commit with mycena essence and craft recipes
00:04 WindHero you?
00:04 Zeno` not too bad
00:05 Zeno` have you tested that all the nodes drop a real item?
00:05 Zeno` I meant to look last night but fell asleep; pretty sure something is dropping something it shouldn't
00:05 Zeno` but I can't see anything wrong in the Lua... weird
00:05 WindHero huh, lemme check
00:06 Zeno` I'd check in the game but I'm in Windows and it's too hard hehehe
00:07 WindHero oh, I know what it is
00:07 WindHero 'default:cobblestone' is being used instead of 'cobble'
00:07 Zeno` oops :)
00:09 WindHero yup
00:09 WindHero I should have caught that
00:12 WindHero this is difficult...
00:12 WindHero falling ice
00:12 Zeno` ice?!
00:14 WindHero :3
00:14 WindHero icicles in a glaciated biome
00:15 Zeno` underground or above?
00:18 WindHero underground
00:21 WindHero alright, got single nodes falling
00:21 WindHero now I just need to have it drop all nearby/attached nods
00:21 WindHero *nodes
00:21 WindHero and hurt players who get hit
00:22 Zeno` I imagine it would hurt getting hit on the head with a block of ice
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00:32 EvergreenTree I think I might try to do something with blender's motion tracking
00:32 EvergreenTree and a minetes video clip
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00:33 WindHero sounds interesting
00:34 WindHero I haven't gotten around to trying blender's mt yet
00:38 WindHero how much do you think I should hurt players hit by the icicles
00:38 WindHero *?
00:41 Zeno` Has anyone been having trouble connecting to servers using the latest git version with a Windows client?
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00:58 WindHero yay, got the icicles working
00:59 WindHero now to make the biome for them
01:04 EvergreenTree WindHero: I think the mese crystals are a little op
01:04 EvergreenTree maybe make them rarer
01:04 EvergreenTree In your cave realm mods
01:04 WindHero yeah, I keep experimenting with those...
01:05 WindHero thanks for the feedback!
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01:07 cmhobbs link to the cave realm mod?  that sounds like something fun to try
01:07 WindHero https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=9522
01:08 cmhobbs thank you!
01:08 WindHero no prob :)
01:09 cmhobbs definitely installing this!
01:09 cmhobbs the pics look great
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01:15 Zeno` the mese are fine for me (mainly because I have caverealms at -3000)
01:15 Zeno` by the time you dig that deep you have so much mese you have no use for it anyway heh
01:16 WindHero alright, time to test the new biome (in it's early, decor-less stage)
01:18 cmhobbs what's the chance of finding a cave?
01:18 kaeza 42
01:19 Zeno` 2a
01:20 EvergreenTree just 42
01:20 EvergreenTree 42 is the answer to everything
01:20 WindHero no
01:20 WindHero life, the universe, and everything
01:21 cmhobbs of course
01:21 Zeno` I'm still getting reports from Windows 7 players who can't connect. I'm not sure how to debug this problem
01:21 WindHero but in seriousness
01:21 WindHero there are good chances at certain depths
01:21 WindHero with the default settings
01:21 WindHero you can guaranteed find one near 0,-1400,0
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01:25 WindHero well, the new biome works
01:25 WindHero but it needs a lot more light
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01:39 cmhobbs what's the maximum world depth?
01:40 WindHero -33000 or so
01:43 kaeza more like ~-30900
01:45 kaeza it could be -32768 (uint16_t), but IIRC, it leaves some room to avoid complicating some calculations or something like that
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02:23 bloodyax2000 Hey
02:24 bloodyax2000 I keep getting some exception "bad allocation", anyone know whats up?
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02:26 WindHero alright, got a working version of a frozen biome
02:26 WindHero just needs a little tweaking and a little more testing
02:26 Zeno` screenshot?
02:26 WindHero https://mediacru.sh/bGqdlvsKf3xo
02:26 WindHero already prepared ;)
02:27 WindHero there's water under that ice, too
02:27 Zeno` nice :)
02:27 WindHero and at the edges of the biome, the ice is semi-transparent
02:27 bloodyax2000 Whoa that's awesome ^
02:27 WindHero try digging at icicle stalactites, and there's a 1/3 chance it'll fall and kill anything beneath it
02:27 WindHero thanks
02:28 bloodyax2000 No problem:D
02:28 Zeno` I'm having trouble with this texture for glow worms lol
02:28 WindHero I bet :P
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02:28 WindHero them be turribly difficult blighters
02:29 WindHero I don't think I'll have the commit pushed until later though...
02:29 WindHero unless you're fine with a commit with no documentation for 2 hours
02:30 Zeno` Nah, I'm fine waiting
02:30 WindHero great, it's better to do it right
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02:30 WindHero and with that, gotta run
02:30 WindHero cya!
02:30 Zeno` cya
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03:04 sethj I got a quick question, how can I use /giveme to get some string from the farming_plus mod?
03:04 sethj No matter what I try I always get "error" cannot give an unkown item"
03:05 sethj I have tried '/giveme NodeItem farming_plus:string' '/giveme string' '/giveme farming_plus:string' and the like to no avail.
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03:15 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003
03:15 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (651ms)
03:17 kaeza sethj, apparently, the item name is "farming:string"
03:17 kaeza ( https://github.com/PilzAdam/far​ming/blob/master/cotton.lua#L72 )
03:17 sethj kaeza Ah, you're right. Thank you!
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04:11 Exio4 *Main> eval $ parser "2+2*2"
04:11 Exio4 6.0
04:11 Exio4 :D
04:12 Exio4 i'm so bored i make a parser of infix OPs
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06:00 Endymion Hi.  I have a question about the moreores mod - does bronze not work, or am I doing something wrong?  I see references to it being copper & tin, but... that doesn't work.
06:07 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Add prefixes to enum values and fix style issues c91f8b1 2014-06-28T02:02:38-04:00 http://git.io/hzm0jQ
06:07 hmmmm they removed it because bronze isn't technically made out of copper and tin
06:08 hmmmm it doesn't really matter, it's just an ugly orange colored block anyway.
06:09 Endymion So what good is tin then?
06:09 hmmmm as good as all the others, endymion.
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06:09 hmmmm it's just a certain block with a certain texture.  there's nothing special about it at all.  other mods possibly use it for their own purposes, however
06:12 Endymion Well that's annoying.  Especially since almost every resource about Minetest asserts that bronze is Copper+Tin.
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06:19 Endymion Well, thank you for the help.
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07:51 sfan5 meow
07:51 sfan5 hi everyone
07:51 sfan5 !deop
07:51 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot
07:51 MinetestBot <3 sfan5
07:52 RealBadAngel hi sfan5
07:52 sfan5 :3
07:52 Krock meooowwww
07:54 jp_ hi
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08:04 john_minetest wazzup?
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08:13 Krock sfan5, closed and not merged?
08:14 * kaeza enchants sfan5 with Low Priority III
08:14 kaeza mornings
08:15 Krock morning, kaeza
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08:54 nman3600 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxU-cQvmi-k
08:54 nman3600 !title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxU-cQvmi-k
08:54 MinetestBot nman3600: Suarez Bit My Finger - Suarez Bit Me - YouTube
08:54 nman3600 It's so funny
08:54 LemonLake I don't have a hostname o.o
08:55 LemonLake dafuq
08:55 LemonLake where the hell is my hostname
08:55 * john_minetest gives sfan5 a <'((((-<
08:55 john_minetest LemonLake: On linux?
08:56 LemonLake On this IRC.
08:56 john_minetest Oh, you mean a cloak
08:56 LemonLake No, I don't
08:56 john_minetest What else?
08:56 LemonLake My hostname is literally non-existant, it's just my IP
08:56 LemonLake Usually it'd say like bt-central-plus
08:56 LemonLake Specifically @host86-164-179-125.range86-164.btcentralplus.com
08:57 john_minetest Well, sometimes it uses the IP
08:57 LemonLake "* *** Couldn't look up your hostname"
08:57 LemonLake theres the issue
08:57 john_minetest Well, that's normal.
08:57 LemonLake whats weird is that I'm also having trouble accessing other services
08:57 LemonLake so I'm gonna restart the router
08:57 john_minetest Maybe your ISP hasn't resolved it
08:57 john_minetest Why restart the router?
08:57 john_minetest It works.
08:57 john_minetest Never change a running system.
08:58 LemonLake Brb.
08:58 john_minetest What is the problem with your IP being there instead of your IP and your hostname?
08:58 LemonLake No, my router is playing up
08:58 john_minetest hmm
08:58 LemonLake some things just are like 'fook you'
08:58 john_minetest https://cdn.mediacru.sh/qqPT3ujRq0rj.pn
08:58 john_minetest https://cdn.mediacru.sh/qqPT3ujRq0rj.png
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09:25 Krock http://i.imgur.com/8t4B2jA.jpg
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09:26 LemonLake wtfffffff
09:26 LemonLake why do half the websites just refuse to load
09:26 kaeza bad DNS?
09:27 john_minetest LemonLake: Isn't that normal?
09:27 * kaeza goes off to bed anyway
09:27 LemonLake no its not...
09:27 john_minetest Sometimes websites just don't load. ISP doing some maintenance stuff maybe.
09:27 john_minetest Then some sites work perfectly while others don't.
09:27 LemonLake hm
09:27 Calinou hi
09:28 john_minetest Or I get timeouts all the time and I can't use the internet for several hours. Be happy that it is only less working instead of not at all.
09:28 LemonLake It literally disrupts my ENTIRE work.
09:28 LemonLake I can't work
09:30 john_minetest Well, at least you can reach the internet kinda.
09:30 john_minetest You can use IRC.
09:30 LemonLake Yeah, it's weird
09:30 john_minetest It is an ISP thing, I guess.
09:30 john_minetest But still better than having a 3-hours internet-less gap.
09:31 john_minetest That's the time when I talk to my roommate. Never see him. But when the internet is gone... :D
09:31 LemonLake True I spose.
09:33 Calinou <LemonLake> I can't work
09:33 Calinou in before “work == play games”
09:33 LemonLake Ain't playing.
09:33 Calinou that happens too often *shrugs*
09:34 LemonLake Have this on autojoin and you guys are actually quite helpful.
09:34 LemonLake Shame that I can't even get on google.
09:34 Calinou get on DuckDuckGo 8)
09:34 * Calinou finds Google downtime great to see
09:34 * Calinou gets binoculars
09:34 Krock * Calinou finds Google downtime great to see
09:34 Krock huh?
09:35 Krock not down
09:35 Calinou it kind of amuses me, that's what I meant
09:35 LemonLake I'd like to know what that means too, Calinou
09:35 Calinou people running with hair in fire :D
09:35 Calinou LemonLake, it seems down to you, but probably not to everyone
09:35 LemonLake Calinou
09:35 Calinou doesn't mean you're not acting like it's the end of the world
09:35 LemonLake As we already established, it's my ISP.
09:35 LemonLake Learn to pay attention.
09:38 LemonLake john_minetest: this is probably the same thing causing the hostname issue
09:38 LemonLake I had it on another IRC server today as well, but it works now
09:40 LemonLake Oh, silly me.
09:40 LemonLake I never had to work in the first place >.<
09:40 LemonLake ugh ever since the sleeping thing my brain is sooo offset
09:41 * Calinou gives LemonLake a british melon
09:41 LemonLake TIME?
09:41 LemonLake Why?
09:41 Calinou I wanted to know your time :P
09:41 LemonLake 10:41
09:41 john_minetest am or pm?
09:42 LemonLake am
09:43 john_minetest 09:47:38 is UTC. +1 for summer time. So you seem to be in UK, portugal or somewhere in africa.
09:43 LemonLake Just north of england.
09:43 john_minetest oh, iceland.
09:43 Calinou john_minetest, UTC is 10:47, UTC+1 is 11:47…
09:43 Calinou at summer time
09:43 LemonLake no...
09:43 Calinou UTC is almost always England
09:44 LemonLake In a town north of England :P
09:44 john_minetest UTC is 9:47
09:44 Calinou at winter time
09:44 john_minetest iirc UTC is always the same.
09:44 Calinou yes
09:44 Calinou UTC == GMT, basically
09:44 LemonLake Google is back.
09:45 Calinou :(
09:45 john_minetest You should use startpage.com or ixquick.com
09:45 john_minetest Those are much better than google.
09:46 john_minetest You can also use duckduckgo. But I got no experience with that
09:46 LemonLake I dislike google with a passion due to their unwilling cooperation with the NSA.
09:46 LemonLake However I use it simply for the fact that it works, its fast and its reliable.
09:46 john_minetest startpage is as reliable
09:46 LemonLake As well as that, their 'data collection' actually helps me find results faster. Insanely useful.
09:46 LemonLake While they know everything about me, they help me out with it.
09:47 LemonLake It's cool stuff.
09:47 john_minetest startpage uses google and other search engines to get great results.
09:47 LemonLake Mhm.
09:47 john_minetest while protecting your privacy
09:47 LemonLake 'uses google'
09:47 LemonLake 'protects privacy'
09:47 john_minetest http://startpage.com
09:47 LemonLake thats not how it works.
09:47 john_minetest Yes.
09:47 LemonLake Btw
09:47 LemonLake "Oops! Google Chrome could not find startpage.com
09:47 LemonLake Try reloading: startpage.­com"
09:47 john_minetest It sends requests to google. But it doesn't personalize it
09:47 LemonLake Startpage is too broken.
09:48 john_minetest broken?
09:48 john_minetest What happens?
09:48 LemonLake Same problem as earlier.
09:48 LemonLake It simply doesn't connect to certain domains.
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09:48 john_minetest What?
09:48 john_minetest Ah,
09:48 john_minetest then it is on your side.
09:48 LemonLake I think it may be country-based.
09:48 Calinou <LemonLake> "Oops! Google Chrome could not find startpage.com
09:48 Calinou use Chromium at least :P
09:48 Calinou http://goo.gl/A5jMJ
09:49 LemonLake Calinou: I have my own personal preferences. Leave me alone for fuck sake.
09:49 Calinou john_minetest, DuckDuckGo is preferable to Startpage, because some of their code is free/libre and doesn't use Google's search data
09:49 Calinou on top of that, DDG is much prettier and more customizable
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09:49 Calinou LemonLake, there's literally no difference between both, except one is probably much better for your privacy…
09:49 LemonLake They also seem to lack a UK server. Thus, can't connect.
09:50 Calinou the link I provided has development versions, so you can get newer features before everyone else :P
09:50 LemonLake Mhm, I don't care.
09:50 LemonLake While they may be invading my privacy, I have nothing to hide.
09:50 Calinou really bad argument
09:50 LemonLake Also, "Oops! Google Chrome could not find commondatastorage.googleapis.com"
09:51 Calinou change your DNS?
09:51 Calinou (you can do that in your router's control panel, I think)
09:51 LemonLake I was planning on doing that later this afternoon if its not done yet.
09:51 LemonLake However I'd require access to my router, which I do not have.
09:52 Calinou from terminal, how to I get an IP from a domain name?
09:52 Calinou (it's not “whois”)
09:52 LemonLake dig (domain name)
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09:53 Calinou http://173.194.67.95 seems to be Google's IP
09:53 Calinou but crap, I just landed on it
09:54 LemonLake Can you give me the IP for startpage?
09:54 LemonLake I'll see if it is a DNS lookup problem.
09:54 Calinou 89.146.4.147
09:54 LemonLake It is not a DNS lookup problem. Same issue
09:54 LemonLake I just simply seem to have no connection to sites outside the country, it seems
09:54 asl LemonLake, what's the different between dig and nslookup?
09:55 LemonLake The difference is that dig is the only one I've ever heard of.
09:55 Calinou nslookup has different, simpler output
09:55 Calinou it gives me 89.146.4.149
09:55 Calinou slightly different IP
09:56 Calinou also… http://173.194.67.95/chromium​-browser-snapshots/index.html → the title, WTF?
09:56 LemonLake When I put in the IP it did "Oops! Google Chrome could not find startpage.com"
09:56 LemonLake which means DNS is fine
09:56 Calinou Error 404 (Not Found)!!1
09:58 asl LemonLake, nslookup startpage.com gave me 69.28.209.49
09:58 LemonLake then they have multiple servers
10:00 asl it seem they set a 301 to redirect people accessing using ip to the domain
10:01 Taoki Oh god. So before I just woke up, I had a bad dream involving Minetest. Notch got upset and decided to send C&D orders to other MC-like engines. 3 games were included, Minetest being one. However, celeron55 managed to talk with Notch, and convince him to settle with simply changing some code in MT that was similar to one in MC.
10:01 asl LemonLake: basically, it means your DNS is most likely broken since it can't find the ip for the domain that your browser was being redirected to
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10:01 Taoki lol
10:02 LemonLake asl, the DNS is definitely fine
10:02 Taoki The dream wasn't all that horrible though. Since in it, Minetest had advanced shaders and generated terrain like in Cryengine
10:02 Rhy5 hi everyone :)
10:02 LemonLake I'm pretty sure it's just ISP maintenance.
10:02 Rhy5 hi lemon :D
10:02 Taoki Hi :)
10:02 LemonLake Yo
10:02 Rhy5 Hows it going?
10:02 LemonLake Meh, it's going down.
10:03 Calinou bye
10:03 Rhy5 Lemon, haha.
10:03 Calinou “Notch got upset and decided to send C&D orders to other MC-like engines.” → do you even think he can even do that?
10:03 Calinou “However, celeron55 managed to talk with Notch, and convince him to settle with simply changing some code in MT that was similar to one in MC.” → too unlikely, if it's the case, it's pure coincidence.
10:03 asl LemonLake: what does nslookup startpage.com give you?  if there is something wrong with the dns, nslookup would ether error or give the wrong ip
10:03 Calinou Minecraft is Java, not C++.
10:04 LemonLake asl: Not on linux at this very minute, nslookup is not a command I can use.
10:04 Rhy5 If Minetest was C++, people would have a nervous breakdown. ._.
10:04 Rhy5 MINECRAFT, sorry xD
10:04 asl nslookup is available on windows too
10:04 LemonLake So people are having a nervous breakdown right now?
10:04 LemonLake asl: not on windows.
10:04 asl then you are on mac?
10:04 LemonLake Atm I'm on android.
10:05 asl oh lol
10:05 LemonLake I'm sorting things out elsewhere.
10:05 LemonLake But the entire house is having the same issue.
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10:18 Rhy5 Hi, again :)
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10:20 Rhy5 Zeno`: Hi :)
10:21 Zeno` hi Rhy5
10:22 Rhy5 How are you?
10:22 Zeno` Getting there... tired. You?
10:22 Rhy5 I'm alright, thinking plans for a game I am making :)
10:22 Rhy5 I've done some basic programming for it.
10:23 Rhy5 Would you like to see the progress?
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10:25 Zeno` yeah, sure
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10:28 Rhy5 http://www.filedropper.com/things - Images of game.
10:28 Rhy5 http://imgur.com/fZpYXEK - Image of plan.
10:29 Rhy5 Sorry, had to sort something out ;P
10:29 Zeno` looks good!
10:29 Zeno` and you've done the best thing you could have done
10:30 Zeno` made a plan!
10:30 Rhy5 Haha, I can never make games without a plan ;)
10:31 Zeno` What's terrain generator?
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10:37 lemonlake_ Looks like every website is back
10:37 lemonlake_ Terrain generator is what the world will be made to look like
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10:49 PenguinDad Carbone still crashes with enabled damage :(
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10:49 lemonlake_ http://i.imgur.com/wfljUCo.jpg
10:49 lemonlake_ I didn't know they have diapers made specifically for Canadian babies.
10:50 Rhy5 lemonlake_: Haha
10:50 Jordach hello lemonlake_
10:51 * Rhy5 thinks that Fancy Terrain Generators are overated - Making a simple 2d one.
10:51 lemonlake_ Heyho Jordach
10:51 Jordach lemonlake_, beaten The Twins with a laser rifle :3
10:51 lemonlake_ oh nice
10:52 Rhy5 Jordach: Hmm?
10:53 lemonlake_ Rhy5: Terraria.
10:53 Rhy5 lemonlake_: I got thrashed by Brain of Cthulu, I want the Deathbringer Pickaxe - I have a Crimson.
10:53 Rhy5 And it needs tissue samples, from the creepers.
10:54 lemonlake_ Thrashed by a brain of cthulu?
10:54 lemonlake_ Dude, they're one of the easiest mini-bosses
10:54 Rhy5 lemonlake_: Not used to it. I only have iron armour.
10:55 Rhy5 Beaten 2 goblin army's though, one from manual spawn and from normal spawn.
10:57 * m5 is getting Debian 7.5 Xfce4
10:57 Jordach Rhy5, i have like near infinite mana
10:57 Rhy5 Jordach, I have full health and mana :)
10:57 Jordach Rhy5, i happen to know a server in hardmore with good orichalcum equipment
10:58 Rhy5 I love mah spacegun.
10:58 m5 Jordach, An absolute statement (Infinite) is not subject to gradation (near)
10:58 Jordach stfui
10:58 m5 And Hi Rhy5
10:58 Rhy5 Hi m5 :)
10:59 Jordach wat
10:59 Jordach wat
10:59 Jordach wat
10:59 Rhy5 Yey
10:59 Rhy5 Yey
10:59 Rhy5 Yey
11:00 Rhy5 Jordach, Urban Dictionary? ;P
11:00 lemonlake_ did you said triple messages
11:00 Jordach brb
11:00 lemonlake_ or am i going crazy
11:00 Rhy5 lemonlake_: Your going crazy
11:00 lemonlake_ <Jordach> wat<Jordach> wat<Jordach> wat<Rhy5> Yey<Rhy5> Yey<Rhy5> Yey
11:00 lemonlake_ thats literally what it says
11:00 m5 Rhy5, You're
11:00 Jordach something broke my steam lib
11:00 m5 </Rhy5> </Jordach>
11:00 Rhy5 m5: Wut?
11:01 * m5 stops highlighting people
11:01 Jordach oh good
11:01 Jordach thank fuck
11:01 m5 lol
11:01 Rhy5 lemonlake_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQKkL5JHhZk
11:01 Rhy5 :D
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11:01 Jordach terraria saves are saved in documents and not the install folder
11:01 lemonlake_ yep
11:01 lemonlake_ my games/terraria
11:01 lemonlake_ why? you cheating?
11:02 Jordach lemonlake_, no. my steam librar's external location broke
11:02 lemonlake_ oh
11:02 Jordach (usually saves are located in their install folwer)
11:03 lemonlake_ not with terraria
11:03 m5 My plan for the next 4-5 hours:
11:03 m5 + Get Debian
11:03 m5 + Make sure Xfce is not fucked up
11:04 m5 + Cry because UEFI won't work
11:04 m5 + Extend my windows partition
11:04 m5 + Delete debian install
11:04 m5 + Repeat
11:04 Jordach woot for junctions
11:04 lemonlake_ why repeat?
11:04 Jordach i am making symlinks to keep my installed games despite having a broken steam lib
11:05 CraigyDavi Hmm does anyone know how I could get a map.sqlite file only of areas on the map above -100?
11:05 lemonlake_ symlinks? do they even exist on windows?
11:05 CraigyDavi Maybe worledit the entire map and then copy it onto a new map?
11:05 lemonlake_ craigydavi: copy, open, remove everything below -100
11:05 Jordach lemonlake_, mklink /j "file folder name" "C:\path\to\docorfolder\"
11:06 lemonlake_ ohwow
11:06 m5 lemonlake_, Not for a Fat* filesystem
11:06 lemonlake_ i gotta try that when im back on win
11:06 CraigyDavi lemonlake_, Ok I'll try that, lets see how much it makes my computer lag :)
11:06 m5 Not proper symlinks anyway
11:06 lemonlake_ craigydavi: your we solution is probably better
11:08 m5 lemonlake_, try cr[TAB]
11:08 lemonlake_ m5: for what?
11:08 lemonlake_ i have no problem
11:08 m5 Not having to type CraigyDavi
11:08 lemonlake_ oh i see
11:08 lemonlake_ yeah i know
11:08 lemonlake_ but pressing tab ruins my flow
11:09 lemonlake_ also, cr + tab only works with a lowercase username, it does not capitalize
11:09 m5 Hmm
11:09 m5 WOrks for me
11:09 lemonlake_ so it'd go to crazyR instead
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11:12 crazyR hmm i heard my name, who awoke me :d
11:13 lemonlake_ we were just discussing autocomplete
11:13 Jordach lemonlake_, having to install my games to C:\, then move them to D:\ and then symlinking them together :3
11:13 Jordach and i have to redownload L4D2
11:13 lemonlake_ you know you can just tell steam to do stuff in D:\
11:14 lemonlake_ magic
11:14 Jordach lemonlake_, tried using the normal folder; it's broken
11:14 lemonlake_ its in steam settings
11:14 Jordach steam tells me to gtfo :3
11:14 lemonlake_ https://support.steampowered.com/​kb_article.php?ref=7418-YUBN-8129
11:14 lemonlake_ follow that, its much easier
11:15 Jordach lemonlake_, i have a folder on D:\ named SteamGames
11:15 Jordach i have used said feature before: but this MORNING it is BROKEN.
11:16 lemonlake_ ok
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11:16 Jordach and i'm in the beta client
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11:18 lemonlake_ Progress is being made on the new wallpaper :D https://cdn.mediacru.sh/EpAA5Cnyapmm.png
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11:19 Jordach btw - we should hold yearly IRC Minetest events starting from next year
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11:19 lemonlake_ why
11:20 m5 I agree
11:20 * sfan5 throws timezones at Jordach
11:20 Jordach because i'm getting a new server tower
11:20 m5 I now disagree
11:20 Jordach m5, does 2tb and a shitload of Minetest come to mind
11:20 m5 Only 2?
11:21 Jordach i'll be adding bonus drives as time passes
11:21 * m5 gots 1PB
11:21 sfan5 !c 'kitten'
11:21 MinetestBot 'kitten'
11:21 sfan5 :O
11:25 m5 http://pastie.org/9334322
11:26 Krock ShadowNinja! https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1421
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11:31 CraigyDavi Krock, they don't save at all, or just under certain circumstances?
11:32 Krock CraigyDavi, test it self. they save in no case
11:32 Krock best example: okay in a singleplayer world and rejoin
11:32 CraigyDavi Ok
11:32 Krock *play
11:33 CraigyDavi I'll try that
11:33 Krock the latest windows builds should contain this bug already
11:36 PenguinDad Krock: this seems to be a windows only bug
11:37 Krock PenguinDad, hmm? already using latest git?
11:39 CraigyDavi Krock, same thing happens to me
11:39 CraigyDavi The player file does not save
11:39 Krock good to know, it's a global bug
11:39 PenguinDad Krock: happens for me too but only randomly
11:40 Krock PenguinDad, randomly? how to undertand that?
11:40 CraigyDavi It also created a stupid "singleplayer.~mt" file. I thought that bug was fixed ages ago...
11:41 PenguinDad Krock: sometimes the file saves sometimes not
11:41 Krock interesting...
11:41 Krock oh srsly
11:42 Krock singleplayer.~mt is modified today
11:42 Krock the other was modified last wednesday
11:42 CraigyDavi Maybe that's the problem then
11:42 Krock yeah
11:43 CraigyDavi Actually, yeah, i remember there was once problems saving player files on my server - turns out some player files were ".~mt" files.
11:43 Krock I deleted "singleplayer", rejoined, the stuff was still there
11:43 Krock it created a new singleplayerfile
11:43 Krock ...
11:44 CraigyDavi Also there was a bug once where some player files ended with a "1" so if i joined the server as "CraigyDavi" it would also create a "CraigyDavi1" The player file did not save unless the file with the 1 on the end got deleted
11:44 CraigyDavi A possible security issue with that too...
11:47 PenguinDad How about saving player data in a sqlite database?
11:47 CraigyDavi That's a great idea
11:47 Krock ^
11:47 Krock suggested many times
11:47 CraigyDavi Freeminer does that
11:47 * CraigyDavi runs
11:48 lemonlake_ freeminer does everything
11:48 lemonlake_ then they brag about it
11:48 PenguinDad Sqlite and freeminer O_o
11:48 Krock somehow I always got a reason for not making it to sqlite
11:48 Krock lemonlake_, you're fake
11:48 lemonlake_ excuse me
11:49 CraigyDavi I think there should be a map.sqlite, rollback.sqlite, items.sqlite and players.sqlite files
11:49 PenguinDad you're fake too
11:49 lemonlake_ * [lemonlake_] is logged in as DrawingDrewfly
11:50 Krock dzho_ is fake, too
11:50 lemonlake_ * [lemonlake_] (~lemonlake@host86-164-176-128.range86-164.btcentralplus.com): Drew Lemmy
11:50 PenguinDad CraigyDavi: what do you want to store in items.sqlite?
11:50 Krock ^dropped items?
11:50 CraigyDavi Yeah
11:50 lemonlake_ that should be map
11:50 lemonlake_ since they're entities
11:50 CraigyDavi ugh https://cdn.mediacru.sh/R51IvM6ps1DZ.png
11:51 CraigyDavi it will also make /clearobjects faster
11:51 lemonlake_ sweggy theme
11:51 CraigyDavi Much faster
11:51 lemonlake_ what is it
11:51 Krock CraigyDavi, could be worse
11:51 lemonlake_ also, craigydavi, alt + printscr may come in handy next time
11:51 lemonlake_ saves time cropping
11:51 * Krock opens "Key shortcuts for noobs.txt"
11:52 * Krock adds the new one
11:52 CraigyDavi It's my own custom windows theme lemonlake_ :)
11:52 lemonlake_ oh cool
11:52 CraigyDavi lemonlake_, I use http://getsharex.com/
11:52 CraigyDavi GO GET IT! :)
11:52 lemonlake_ will you be releasing it? it looks smexy
11:52 CraigyDavi Possibly yeah
11:52 Krock run this: "net stop Designs"
11:52 Krock enjoy with my specialtheme
11:52 CraigyDavi I can even take freehand screenhots
11:53 lemonlake_ as can i
11:53 lemonlake_ but with alt + printscr
11:53 lemonlake_ its just printscreen, ctrl v
11:53 CraigyDavi I can even make gifs with sharex
11:53 lemonlake_ no wait, its instant.
11:54 CraigyDavi Press Prt Sc once, hold, press again and it uploads the gif straight away online
11:54 CraigyDavi Screenshot gets uploaded straight to mediacrush
11:55 lemonlake_ whatever
11:55 lemonlake_ its just another reinvention of the wheel to me
11:56 CraigyDavi Meh
11:56 lemonlake_ dis gurls hair is lookin gewwd
11:57 CraigyDavi Hmm anyone know where I can upload a 20GB file?
11:57 lemonlake_ dropbox
11:57 lemonlake_ complete getting started and you get 50gb free
11:57 lemonlake_ ftp server
11:58 CraigyDavi Ok
11:58 lemonlake_ http server (because hipster)
11:58 lemonlake_ anywhere
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11:59 Rhy5 Hi :)
11:59 CraigyDavi hi Rhy5
12:00 Rhy5 Hi CraigyDavi!
12:00 Rhy5 Brb
12:03 m5 I can tell you that my debian installation  went according to plan
12:03 m5 And also I have 36GB of games
12:03 m5 Would they run less like shit If i made a new partition for them?
12:03 Rhy5 Back.
12:04 m5 me too
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12:27 m5 geopbytes...
12:27 m5 Why do we even have this measurement?
12:27 m5 We will not reach it within the next 10,000,000 years surely
12:29 lemonlake_ It's entirely possible
12:29 m5 9.5367431640625e-7 YB
12:29 m5 That's a Yottabyte
12:29 m5 That's lots of Yottabytes
12:30 m5 Have we reached 1EB?
12:30 lemonlake_ thats probably the amount of memory all humans have stored as a total
12:30 lemonlake_ human brains*
12:34 m5 You think humans have a lot of memory
12:35 lemonlake_ i dont really care
12:35 m5 I reckon my brain will fit on my VPS
12:35 lemonlake_ "You might have only a few gigabytes of storage space, similar to the space in an iPod or a USB flash drive. Yet neurons combine so that each one helps with many memories at a time, exponentially increasing the brain's memory storage capacity to something closer to around 2.5 petabytes (or a million gigabytes)."
12:38 m5 Hmm
12:38 m5 We can calculate the amount of space in all humans then
12:39 m5 1,000,000,000,000x2.6
12:39 lemonlake_ 1,000,000 * 7,243,191,443
12:39 m5 !c 1,000,000,000,000*2.6
12:39 MinetestBot (1, 0, 0, 0, 0.0)
12:39 lemonlake_ !c 1,000,000 * 7,243,191,443
12:39 MinetestBot (1, 0, 0, 243, 191, 443)
12:39 m5 ah
12:39 m5 !c 1,000000000000*2.6
12:39 MinetestBot (1, 0.0)
12:40 m5 wut
12:40 m5 Wolfram will help me
12:40 lemonlake_ 7.243192443×10¹⁵
12:40 lemonlake_ just use a calculator
12:40 m5 I need actual numbers though
12:40 lemonlake_ why?
12:40 lemonlake_ do you not understand exponentials?
12:41 PenguinDad c 1000000000000 * 2.6
12:41 PenguinDad !c 1000000000000 * 2.6
12:41 MinetestBot 2600000000000.0
12:41 m5 21,990,232,555,520,000,000,000,000 bits
12:42 m5 2,328.3064365386 zettabytes
12:43 m5 That is 254516580503 Days 16 Hours 53 Minutes 20 Seconds with a Gig E connection (1GB/sec)
12:46 m5 I am the 81,698,909,487th person to have lives since history began
12:47 m5 I suddenly have the urge to brute force random numbers
12:48 lemonlake_ omg I finished the hair
12:48 lemonlake_ now what am I gonna do with my life
12:49 lemonlake_ oh no, i missed one strand
12:49 m5 I just lost the will to live
12:49 m5 sudo rm -rf *
12:49 m5 sudo rm -rf /*
12:49 m5 Or / ?
12:49 lemonlake_ have you ever played linux russian roulette? :p
12:50 m5 Lol
12:50 m5 Default allocation size
12:50 lemonlake_ [ $[ $RANDOM % 6 ] == 0 ] && rm -rf / || echo *Click*
12:50 lemonlake_ you must sudo -s before playing ^.^
12:50 m5 Lol
12:50 m5 I did not even know about sudo -s
12:50 m5 You want to try?
12:51 lemonlake_ no thanks
12:51 lemonlake_ i like my linux
12:51 lemonlake_ and my files
12:52 PenguinDad lemonlake_: nothing will happen to my linux when I do this
13:02 sfan5 PenguinDad: GNU coreutils...
13:03 m5 I need a rediculous filesystem
13:03 m5 One for fast shit
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13:19 m5 !seen Sockbat
13:19 MinetestBot m5: sockbat was last seen at 2014-04-27 11:07:06 UTC on #minetest-de
13:19 m5 !seen sockbat
13:19 MinetestBot m5: sockbat was last seen at 2014-04-27 11:07:06 UTC on #minetest-de
13:19 m5 UTC...
13:20 m5 I don't find that particularly useful
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13:24 sfan5 m5: MinetestBot can't magically know your time zone
13:25 m5 If it says X hours minutes ago it could be more universal
13:25 sfan5 mhm.. maybe
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13:59 Hirato considering the date is 27th of April, I don't think x minutes/hours ago is a useful metric :p
14:01 m5 years/months/days
14:01 m5 !logger
14:01 m5 Grr I need ShadowBot
14:02 Hirato shadow bot hides in the shadows
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14:22 MinetestBot UnboundLocalError: local variable 'time' referenced before assignment (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/seen.py", line 49, in pushupdate)
14:22 sfan5 eww
14:22 MinetestBot ...
14:23 m5 !seen error
14:23 MinetestBot ...
14:23 MinetestBot m5: Sorry, I haven't seen error around.
14:23 m5 !seen markv
14:23 MinetestBot ...
14:23 MinetestBot m5: markv was last seen at 2014-06-26 19:04:04 UTC on #minetest
14:23 m5 ...
14:23 MinetestBot UnboundLocalError: local variable 'time' referenced before assignment (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/seen.py", line 49, in pushupdate)
14:23 m5 lol
14:23 MinetestBot UnboundLocalError: local variable 'time' referenced before assignment (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/seen.py", line 49, in pushupdate)
14:23 m5 Oh god
14:23 MinetestBot UnboundLocalError: local variable 'time' referenced before assignment (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/seen.py", line 49, in pushupdate)
14:23 sfan5 test
14:23 MinetestBot TypeError: int() argument must be a string or a number, not 'time.struct_time' (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/seen.py", line 49, in pushupdate)
14:23 sfan5 ah what the fuck
14:23 MinetestBot TypeError: int() argument must be a string or a number, not 'time.struct_time' (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/seen.py", line 49, in pushupdate)
14:23 m5 lolololololol
14:23 MinetestBot TypeError: int() argument must be a string or a number, not 'time.struct_time' (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/seen.py", line 49, in pushupdate)
14:24 m5 k
14:24 MinetestBot TypeError: int() argument must be a string or a number, not 'time.struct_time' (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/seen.py", line 49, in pushupdate)
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14:24 m5 I have no idea
14:25 asl who broke minetestbot xD
14:25 m5 me
14:26 sfan5 asl: I broke it
14:27 m5 user mtbot :)
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14:31 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot
14:31 MinetestBot <3 sfan5
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14:31 m5 " The next version is 0.4.10, not 0.5.0"
14:31 m5 Why?
14:32 * Krock headdesks
14:32 * m5 holds Krock's head down
14:33 Krock blubb blubb
14:33 Krock X.X
14:34 sfan5 m5: dramatic improvements and no backward compat are planned for 0.5.0
14:34 * m5 adds water
14:34 sfan5 m5: also "timenow = time.struct_time | int(timenow)" is not how it works
14:34 m5 Okay
14:34 m5 You do the wizardry
14:35 m5 I'm more of a sysadmin than a programmer
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14:37 CraigyDavi 134 errors in visual studio :/ fuuuu
14:37 Krock visual studio?
14:38 CraigyDavi Yep
14:39 m5 2m till Ubuntu downloads...
14:39 m5 The plan is to remove ubuntu-desktop and install xubuntu-desktop :P
14:39 CraigyDavi fixed them all imma genius :D
14:40 CraigyDavi 2 million?
14:41 * Krock is uploading his today's MSVCbuild with players-fix
14:43 CraigyDavi So it should save the player files?
14:45 Krock yes
14:45 Krock CraigyDavi, do you also have this problem at your server?
14:45 CraigyDavi Awesome :)
14:45 CraigyDavi Nope, I have not used a recent build after I found out players do not save
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14:46 CraigyDavi But the singleplayer file did not save so i presume i would haev the problem if i used it on my server
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14:48 Krock hmm it didn't change the extra_version.. wahtever, here's the first x86 build https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=146099#p146099
14:48 m5 It'd be useful to find mutual names on two channels
14:49 CraigyDavi Great! How did you fix it, Krock?
14:49 Krock #minetest-dev
14:50 CraigyDavi Ah I see, gonna make a pull request?
14:51 Krock after I figure out how to download a repo + making a new branch + uploading + create request
14:51 Krock but the webgui seems to be much easier
14:53 CraigyDavi It's simple. Just fork, clone, make changes, push to a branch, create a pull request
14:53 Krock aha
14:53 Krock fork: done, clone: no success, make changes: done,
14:54 Krock yay! 50%
14:55 CraigyDavi Just create a new branch called "playersave-fix" or whatever. Then commit to the branch, pull requests can be easily done using the web ui
14:55 Amaz I get this warning at the end of compiling Minetest: lua/build/liblua.a(loslib.o): In function `os_tmpname':
14:55 Amaz loslib.c:(.text+0x29c): warning: the use of `tmpnam' is dangerous, better use `mkstemp'
14:55 Krock uh. this time, the guthub gui opened :O
14:56 CraigyDavi The funny thing about the github ui is you can see who has been editing online as it creates a "patch-1" branch
14:57 Krock hmm. they dropped the updates for windows xp...
14:57 Krock (github)
15:04 Krock wooo
15:04 Krock finally
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15:15 PenguinDad Mine! https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=146534#p146534
15:18 Krock lemonlake_, punch nman for no reason
15:19 lemonlake_ hello
15:19 lemonlake_ sure
15:19 Krock xD
15:19 lemonlake_ done
15:19 lemonlake_ he doesnt look happy
15:19 Krock hmm
15:19 Krock I expected the opposite
15:19 lemonlake_ why?
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15:21 nman3600 Krock, WHY THE ACTUALL FUCK
15:21 lemonlake_ nman3600: <Krock> [Actual News RSS] Server is back up and the bugs have been fixed
15:21 nman3600 Joining now
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16:10 PenguinDad !seen EvergreenTree
16:10 MinetestBot PenguinDad: evergreentree was last seen at 2014-06-27 18:55:05 UTC on #minetest
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16:15 m5 HI!
16:16 m5 IT WORKS!!!
16:16 * m5 has ubuntu
16:16 m5 Windows can suck it
16:17 Jordach enjoy your games that barely work in Wine
16:18 * m5 doesn't play games anymore
16:18 m5 That's what windows is for
16:18 m5 I'm going to strip out Unity and get XFCE
16:19 m5 Because Xubuntu didn't have EFI support :P
16:19 PilzAdam Jordach, remove "in Wine" and you can tell the same thing to windows users
16:19 Jordach PilzAdam, bullshit
16:19 Jordach you can't play that card when you had a X260
16:19 Jordach 360*
16:20 m5 Windows is linux with Wine
16:20 Jordach considering the NT kernel becomes more UNIX-like each day
16:23 * Jordach remembers why Cycles sucks balls
16:23 Jordach >sets sky color to sky blue (low saturation) >everything becomes blue-tinted
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16:24 lemonlake_ jienius
16:24 lemonlake_ s/jienius/genius
16:24 Jordach this is why i prefer the aging Blender Internals Raytracer
16:26 Jordach most Blender tutorials now prefer Cycles
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16:26 Jordach (it takes the hard parts out of rendering, which i prefer)
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16:45 Calinou why do I have a short freeze when the game places/sets a node through an ABM, but not when I place a block by hand?
16:56 Amaz Are there any plans to make a Minetest Game database?
16:56 Calinou Amaz, http://wiki.minetest.net/User:Twoelk/sandbox2
16:58 Krock is there already a mod which re-creates an IRC system? like in-game switching between chat rooms?
16:58 lemonlake_ that would actually be pretty cool
17:02 Amaz Calinou: I meant something more like: https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb/ So that games could be installed from Minetest itself...
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17:03 Calinou the mod store already sucks :/
17:03 Calinou Krock, no
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17:04 john_minetest The mod store always sucked
17:04 * Krock opens TO_DO_LIST.txt, adds "IRC-like ingame mod"
17:04 Amaz Yep... But it would make sense to add a game section to it (Or the mmdb) as Minetest itself is becoming more of an engine...
17:05 john_minetest Chat is pretty ugly, too
17:05 john_minetest WE. NEED. BIGGER. FONTS.
17:05 Krock MAKE. THEM. BIGGER. IN. MINETEST. CONF.
17:05 john_minetest The ones we got are okay on a 400x600 screen.
17:05 Calinou font_path = /usr/share/fonts/truetype/droid/DroidSans.ttf
17:05 Calinou font_size = 18
17:05 Calinou font_shadow_alpha = 255
17:05 Calinou mono_font_size = 16
17:05 Calinou fallback_font_size = 18
17:05 Calinou fallback_font_shadow_alpha = 255
17:05 lemonlake_ font scaling
17:05 Krock afg
17:05 lemonlake_ we need hud/formspec font scaling
17:05 john_minetest I'd need ttf for that
17:05 Krock agh*
17:05 Calinou the game was originally made to run in a 800 × 600 window
17:05 lemonlake_ that will be cool
17:06 * Calinou tweaked ABM times, now the game freezes every so often :/
17:07 Krock lemonlake_, move your head to my server. I need help there
17:11 Calinou even disabling the leaf decay ABM does nothing
17:14 m5 <3 [x]ubuntu
17:15 rubenwardy Hi all!
17:15 m5 Hi rubenwardy!
17:15 Calinou found a fix
17:16 rubenwardy The mod store (mmdb) is impossible to set up, so nobody will develop it
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17:17 Amaz :(
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17:18 jp_ Calinou : you have a found a solution for write '7' in MT (apart turn on a QWERTY keyboard) ?
17:19 Calinou no
17:20 jp_ AZERTY discrimination :(
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17:26 Calinou Irrlicht bug, I think
17:27 asl anyone want to guess how many times get_node is called when fully draining the chainsaw from a few weeks ago?
17:27 Calinou <Sokomine> leaf decay sometimes takes too much time on crowded servers
17:27 Calinou Sokomine, Carbone makes it much faster
17:27 Calinou interval 1, chance 2 abm
17:27 john_minetest What's that?  https://cdn.mediacru.sh/F2qSGJHHlaXE.png
17:28 Calinou decays in less than 6 seconds on average
17:28 Calinou (sapling drop positions are also no longer random, which is minutely faster and more balanced)
17:28 Calinou john_minetest, Swindle :D
17:28 john_minetest Calinou: Yep :D
17:28 asl john_minetest: glad that i ain't the only one who got that
17:28 Calinou I don't think I've ever had that
17:28 john_minetest That problem is on the mineguild server
17:29 asl https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1218
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17:29 asl john ^
17:31 PenguinDad john_minetest: I got that once on Krock's server
17:35 asl penguindad: are you on linux when you got that?
17:35 kaeza mornings
17:36 PenguinDad asl: I'm on linux and I got that error because I duge straight down while my inventory was full
17:36 asl so 3 reported case all happening on linux
17:37 PenguinDad *dug
17:39 asl my inventory was full too iirc and there was lots of querry digging
17:39 Calinou quarry*
17:39 Calinou (>2014 >quarry)
17:40 asl and it also happen when i was chainsawing trees, lots of them, like 200 moretrees sapling worth of tree
17:41 * PenguinDad queries the quarry miner
17:42 john_minetest sfan5: What was the name of that collaborative writing tool again?
17:42 sfan5 the one we used for 0hgame?
17:42 sfan5 anyway
17:43 sfan5 it's domain matches ^[a-z]+pad.org$
17:43 lemonlake_ any sort of pad
17:43 lemonlake_ i like piratepad
17:44 sfan5 http://etherpad.org/
17:45 john_minetest something that runs in the browser
17:46 sfan5 john_minetest: <sfan5> the one we used for 0hgame?
17:46 Calinou Framapad, but it'll shut down soon
17:55 Calinou I made a legit farm with 146 soil blocks irrigated by only one water source
17:55 Calinou 3 levels :P
17:55 asl i guess no one want to guess the number of times get_node is call when fully draining the chainsaw
17:55 * sfan5 purrs at asl
17:58 asl the number of dig when fully draining the chainsaw: 2500, the number of get_node use by falling code on each dig: 27, total get_node used: 70000 (2500 get_node used by the chainsaw), time ~ 1800ms
17:59 * Calinou applauses at so-called “timber” mods
18:00 PenguinDad That's quite fast for 70000 get_node calls
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18:02 asl with my patch on my fork of the technic mod, it use about 5000 get_node, time ~ 800ms
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18:04 asl i just dummy out the falling code during the digging and poof, speed boost :P
18:12 john_minetest timber mods?
18:12 MinetestBot GIT: proller commited to minetest/minetest: Masterserver: Fix undefined players 897c218 2014-06-28T22:10:55+04:00 http://git.io/Kyth9A
18:12 john_minetest The ones where you cut down a tree half and the rest of it comes down?
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18:13 Calinou yes
18:21 asl penguinDad, it's fast cause most of the get_node is call for the same pos 27 times
18:22 lemonlake_ how does that make it faster
18:22 asl maybe it store it in memory or some cache after the first call
18:22 lemonlake_ I haven't seen any of that in the source code
18:23 lemonlake_ it might be some sort of luajit feature
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18:50 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/gcqpTvvLOJdu.jpg → new stones in More Blocks, tar in the background
18:52 Amaz Split-split stone tiles? ;)
18:52 Calinou yes, basically
18:52 Calinou tar is made by smelting gravel
18:52 Calinou grey bricks made with one stone brick + 1 brick block (the one made with clay bricks), or 1 stone + 1 brick block
18:53 RealBadAngel Calinou, all are quite nice except that one on the top
18:53 Calinou I should increase the contrast of the new textures somewhen
18:53 Calinou RealBadAngel, it's the side of the alternate split stone tile
18:53 Calinou needs a fix, yeah
18:53 RealBadAngel that horizontal tougher line in the middle hurts the eyes
18:54 Calinou yes
18:55 RealBadAngel if you want to make it symetrical, rescale it to 32x while keeping same pixel size and then shift it a bit
18:55 m5 if none of my 36GB of games work with wine I will cry
18:55 john_minetest BRAZIL WON!
18:55 m5 Rather loudly.
18:55 john_minetest yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!
18:56 * m5 still doesn't care about the world cup
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18:56 ligeti Hello all... :)
18:56 Calinou hi ligeti
18:56 Calinou RealBadAngel, no, I won't use 32 × 32 texture
18:56 SylvieLorxu john_minetest: Brazil won?
18:56 Calinou too problmeatic
18:56 SylvieLorxu Oh, thank God, then people in my neighbourhood won't be loud and obnoxious
18:56 RealBadAngel Calinou, without possibility to move it half a pixel it wont be symetrical
18:56 Tiktalik how's minetest going?
18:57 Tiktalik anyone decided nearly infinite worlds should be a thing yet?
18:57 Calinou RealBadAngel, maybe I'll use a whole different texture
18:57 Calinou Tiktalik, no, probably won't ever happen
18:57 Calinou use the available space well ;)
18:58 Tiktalik Calinou: my mom could explore an entire minetest world! >:\
18:58 Calinou it'd take real time days
18:58 Calinou if you count underground and sky, it'd take real time years
18:58 Tiktalik i meant the surface :P
18:59 Calinou spend that time developing something real, like a build, a mod or a texture pack
18:59 john_minetest SylvieLorxu: Yep, brazil won
18:59 SylvieLorxu Perfect.
18:59 john_minetest in next round now
19:00 Tiktalik Calinou: how flexible is minetest modding?
19:01 Calinou pretty flexible
19:01 Calinou it depends on what you want to do
19:01 Calinou the API will let you do some impressive things easily and some boring things are almost impossible to make
19:01 Calinou like everywhere else
19:01 Calinou (same goes for design and art in general)
19:01 Tiktalik Calinou: do you play minecraft at all?
19:01 Calinou no, since January 2014, I don't
19:01 Calinou Minetest totally replaced it
19:02 Tiktalik Calinou: familiar with the mod thaumcraft at all?
19:02 Calinou no
19:02 RealBadAngel i am
19:02 Calinou I don't use technic/thaumcraft-likze mods
19:02 Calinou like*
19:02 RealBadAngel what about it?
19:02 Calinou I hardly use mesecons already :p
19:02 Calinou bye
19:03 Tiktalik but thaumcraft isn't even that techky
19:03 Tiktalik *trechy
19:03 Tiktalik GAH
19:03 Tiktalik *techy
19:03 Tiktalik it's mostly just makin' tools and stuff
19:03 RealBadAngel not only
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19:04 RealBadAngel it comes with pretty complex machines and tubes too
19:05 RealBadAngel im gonna start makin proper thaumcraft like mod after 0.4.10 comes out
19:05 Tiktalik want a list of things thaumcraft 4 could do better?
19:07 RealBadAngel hold on with that till work starts, there will be topic in forums on that
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19:15 lemonlake_ RealBadAngel: but why?
19:15 lemonlake_ thats like copying
19:15 lemonlake_ thats not nice
19:15 Jordach copying is the sincerest form of flattery :P
19:15 Amaz ^ +1
19:15 Amaz :P
19:15 RealBadAngel copying would be if i take the source and start making the same
19:16 RealBadAngel im gonna remake it as i remember it and would like to be
19:16 RealBadAngel and thats pretty different
19:16 Amaz Yep.
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19:19 lemonlake_ still
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19:19 lemonlake_ we need more unique mods
19:19 lemonlake_ not just ripoffs of minecraft stuff
19:20 Amaz Yep!
19:21 lemonlake_ currently the attitude of many people is "oh making a mod is easy and ill become really popular for it so ill just make one"
19:21 lemonlake_ "hmm what do i do...i know ill do *** from minecraft because everyone likes it"
19:21 Tiktalik bah
19:21 Tiktalik a lot of things from minecraft fill common needs
19:21 Tiktalik that's why they're good
19:22 Tiktalik having the same things for minetest is also good
19:22 lemonlake_ i mean the unique things from minecraft
19:22 lemonlake_ i.e technic, thaumcraft
19:22 Tiktalik pipes for puttin' stuff places is useful
19:22 lemonlake_ but you're not getting my drift
19:22 lemonlake_ minetest is not a minecraft ripoff
19:22 Amaz Yep.
19:22 lemonlake_ it may be inspired by it
19:23 Amaz +lemonlake_
19:23 lemonlake_ but its not supposed to be the same thing...
19:23 lemonlake_ thus people need to make more unique mods, heck, games even
19:23 john_minetest As long as there is no proper mod database, more mods would be not really useful
19:23 lemonlake_ things like lord of the test and carbone
19:23 lemonlake_ one is completely unique, one contains things that people 'need'
19:24 lemonlake_ +john_minetest
19:24 Amaz lemonlake, even then, there is a lord of the rings mod for MC...
19:24 lemonlake_ i was aware
19:25 Amaz Right.
19:25 lemonlake_ tbh its mods that im worried about people copying
19:26 lemonlake_ games are alright as long as they have a pretty big twist
19:26 Megaf 16:25:29: ERROR[main]: mod "homedecor" has unsatisfied dependencies:  "building_blocks"
19:26 Megaf That's not cool
19:26 lemonlake_ its not hot either
19:26 lemonlake_ got a problem with that
19:26 Amaz I suppose so.
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19:27 RealBadAngel lemonlake_, makin a quality mod is not just that one is having an idea, original one or borrowed
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19:28 RealBadAngel point is if modder can code it
19:28 lemonlake_ still, we don't need a thousand copies of popular mc mods
19:28 lemonlake_ thats what mc is for
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19:28 john_minetest brb
19:29 lemonlake_ come on, just be original
19:29 lemonlake_ make a magic mod, that's chill
19:29 lemonlake_ but 'thaumcraft' is just showing that you've run out of ideas
19:29 RealBadAngel no, it means that i liked that mod and miss it
19:29 lemonlake_ 'miss it'?
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19:29 lemonlake_ hasn't gone anywhere
19:30 lemonlake_ still has regular updates to date
19:30 RealBadAngel i want such mod in mt too
19:30 RealBadAngel and will code it
19:30 Megaf where do I get building_blocks from?
19:30 lemonlake_ just please make it unique
19:30 Tiktalik mods that fill a similar niche are good
19:30 lemonlake_ at least add a big twist and don't call it 'thaumcraft'
19:30 RealBadAngel ofc it will be different than original one
19:30 lemonlake_ it also gives a bad impression to outsiders
19:30 Megaf Ok, got it already
19:31 RealBadAngel i wont be even checkin how it looks like now
19:31 RealBadAngel i just remember some things and will go that way
19:32 lemonlake_ okay, thats better
19:32 SylvieLorxu lemonlake_: Having someone remake Minecraft mods for Minetest does mean we can enjoy them without having to use proprietary software :P
19:33 SylvieLorxu So I'd still very much call it a good thing
19:33 lemonlake_ <lemonlake_> it also gives a bad impression to outsiders
19:33 lemonlake_ i do agree that it transfers the enjoyable experience
19:33 lemonlake_ but it just makes it seem like we're out of ideas and are just in it for the fame/money etc
19:34 SylvieLorxu I don't think the Minecraft community has the right to complain seeing how Minecraft isn't even original, but fair enough
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19:51 proller 1500 reached on "four circles" !
19:51 proller http://freeminer.setun.net/map.circl​es/map-circles-2014-06-28-23-45.png
19:52 Jordach and yet it's full of chunk errors
19:52 Jordach not surprising with an unfinished bit of code used to produce it
19:52 proller wat?
19:52 proller where errors?
19:53 Jordach look at the water
19:53 Jordach fragmenting like hell
19:53 proller fm dont save not changed blocks
19:53 proller in game all ok
19:54 Jordach looks like shit if a server owner wanted to render the map
19:54 proller but this map size = 224M
19:54 proller with all saved blocks it will be 1-1.5G
19:54 Jordach you're wasting CPU cycles on regenerating segments
19:55 proller and?
19:55 Jordach that's like using RDRAND as your only source of entropy in /dev/random
19:58 proller this server generates 50+ blocks per second
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20:45 lemonlake_ guys what day is it today
20:45 lemonlake_ nvm
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20:49 Amaz Why?
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20:54 john_minetest "Question everything!" - "Why?"
20:56 Amaz Yep!
20:56 john_minetest Woah, I need a good game idea
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21:07 lemonlake_ idk
21:07 lemonlake_ oh, that
21:07 lemonlake_ my brain has been all over the place lately
21:08 john_minetest ====(o_o)===>
21:09 john_minetest ====(o_o)===>@
21:09 john_minetest Yep, that one is better
21:09 john_minetest :P
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21:10 markv okay I fucked up my machine
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21:36 * sfan5 meows at john_minetest
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21:43 * john_minetest gives sfan5 a <'(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((​((((((((((((((((((((((([#longfish tag]((((((((((-<<
21:44 * sfan5 looks at john_minetest
21:45 * john_minetest gives sfan5 a bowl of milk
21:45 * sfan5 looks at john_minetest
21:45 * sfan5 noms it
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21:46 * john_minetest pets sfan5
21:46 * sfan5 purrs
21:47 * markv calls Remote host to cloce sfan5's connection
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21:48 sfan5 remote host would be myself
21:48 sfan5 s/myself/me/
21:52 * Jordach meows at sfan5
21:52 * sfan5 meows at Jordach
21:57 kaeza RIP Uruguay
22:00 * Jordach meows at kaeza
22:01 Jordach :3
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22:50 MinetestBot GIT: SmallJoker commited to minetest/minetest: Make player files saving again 3c5df42 2014-06-29T00:45:04+02:00 http://git.io/DNUuhQ
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22:57 WindHero alright
22:58 WindHero 823 lines of code removed from the init.lua of caverealms and into their own lua files
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