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01:39 WindHero 0.4.(10)
01:40 WindHero so easy to mistake it for meaning 0.4.1
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01:47 VanessaE simple:  just remember that version numbers are not decimal
01:53 WindHero sure enough :P
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02:08 WindHero I just thought of something
02:09 WindHero Arche-Linux :3
02:09 WindHero (kaeza knows what I mean)
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05:01 ecutruin Who was the one working on mesh nodes?
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05:05 Nerotic Hey guys. Anyone up?
05:06 Nerotic Hmm, guess not.
05:06 ecutruin I am, but I'm probably not the most helpful.
05:07 Nerotic I am not here to ask questions lol
05:07 VanessaE hi
05:07 Nerotic Hey VanessaE
05:07 ecutruin Oh V is around too! ^-^
05:07 VanessaE barely.
05:07 ecutruin lol
05:07 ecutruin So, any news on my suggestion for animating pipes? lol.
05:08 Nerotic I assume thats a mod suggestion
05:08 ecutruin Nope.  Its specifically an issue I reported on V's mod. ^-~ hehe.  Mostly a suggestion I had to allow pipes to animate nicer.
05:08 Nerotic ah
05:09 ecutruin And.. she's dead. xD
05:09 Nerotic https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=14&t=9631
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05:09 Nerotic Theres Vanessa goes
05:09 Nerotic And now shes back
05:09 VanessaE stupid thing.
05:09 Nerotic lel
05:09 ecutruin Welcome back, V.
05:09 ecutruin Did ya get my last message?
05:09 ecutruin Nerotic, why release a full client, if its just mods really?  I'm curious.
05:10 Nerotic Small modifications
05:10 ecutruin Ah.
05:10 Nerotic Yeah, I wish I could make the downloads quicker with just minetest_game but I couldnt with the small modifications
05:11 VanessaE what about animating pipes?
05:11 ecutruin There are a ton of things I'm waiting for in MT before I start fully developing for it.
05:11 Nerotic like?
05:12 ecutruin V, I was wondering if you guys were able to evaluate my suggestion at all.  I'm curious if its better/worse in MT.
05:12 VanessaE I don't recall seeing a suggestion.  I probably just forgot
05:12 Nerotic Just develop them yourself if you really want it done, and pull request it, hopefully they will accept it, if someone is already working on the same thing, then just contribute
05:13 ecutruin V, https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/issues/70
05:14 ecutruin Nerotic, I'm an artist, not a backend developer...the things I need are out of my league currently, or rather outside my current understanding at least.
05:14 Nerotic oh
05:14 ecutruin I know the concepts involved, but do not understand what is needed to actually implement them.
05:14 Nerotic I've been studying everything on dev.minetest.net for months BEFORE i even joined the community(today)
05:15 Nerotic That way, I don't look dumb if someone shoots a question and they need help
05:15 Nerotic Theres still more to learn though
05:15 ecutruin I joined recently myself, I am mostly known for my Minecraft mod.
05:15 Nerotic Minecraft mod?
05:16 Nerotic I gotta go to sleep, its 1:16am, I need some sleep
05:16 Nerotic Night
05:16 ecutruin I'm the designer/artist/concept creator of Ender Storage.
05:16 ecutruin Derp. >.<
05:16 ecutruin Ask a question and then leave.. oh well.
05:16 VanessaE ecutruin: OH right that one
05:16 * ecutruin nods.
05:18 ecutruin I'm just curious if either of you looked into it, V.  I'm still unsure if it would be better performing overall.
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07:26 Krock hi
07:29 CraigyDavi hi
07:31 Krock my 2nd pull request :D
07:32 Krock (which bases on branches, not just master)
07:32 CraigyDavi Good stuff :)
07:33 Krock yeah
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07:48 * PenguinDad hugs Krock
07:49 * Krock flips PenguinDad
07:49 Krock '!
07:50 PenguinDad Krock: The reason for the hug https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1427
07:50 Krock lol
07:50 Krock that's a milestone to MT version 1.0.0
07:53 * Krock thinks, the previous pull is more important
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08:02 PenguinDad Krock: the previous pull got merged already
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08:02 Krock PenguinDad, this one? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1424 still open
08:03 Krock ah i see
08:03 PenguinDad Krock: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commi​t/3c5df42a17886395cee6141663f84dba15bd11d9
08:03 Krock thought, it hasn't got merged yet because it was still open
08:04 PenguinDad sapier just forgot to close it
08:04 Krock *deletes branch*
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08:16 markv Hi!
08:17 markv Linux is great!
08:17 markv But the drivers piss me off
08:17 markv It's just that tiny bit glitchier in games
08:17 * markv plays Counter Strike
08:18 * Krock throws an other ReactOS disk at markv
08:20 asl counter strike is close source iirc
08:20 * Krock http://i.imgur.com/jiyZQBt.png 's
08:21 markv I found the source asl
08:21 * markv bullshits too much
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08:26 Calinou is there a way to open recursively all .lua files in a directory, recursively, using Geany? geany *.lua isn't recursive
08:27 Krock what's the use of opening them recurive?
08:28 jp__ Calinou : Hello. It misses textures in your last update of MoreBlocks : http://i.imgur.com/i4BeL4y.png
08:29 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.ph​p?f=12&amp;t=9620&amp;p=146598#p146511 → rofl, 2nd island
08:29 Calinou added, jp__
08:29 Krock xD
08:29 Calinou download the mod again (or git pull)
08:29 jp__ Thanks !
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08:32 jp__ Same result, Calinou.
08:32 jp__ Textures not uploaded apparently...
08:33 jp__ https://gitorious.org/calinou/moreblocks/source/6​e1ed990843124217c012249a2f874ba88b6bc06:textures
08:33 Calinou https://gitorious.org/calinou/moreblocks/source/9​6a1e9548969c643fd9ed884cc5269577463c99b:textures → they appear there
08:33 * markv steals the arrow
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08:33 Calinou moreblocks_tar.png, moreblocks_grey_bricks, moreblocks_split_stone_tile_alt, moreblocks_split_stone_tile_alt_top are there
08:33 markv Hi Cr →Igy → → →Dav → → →I
08:34 jp__ Ah, ok. I followed the link in your 1st post of the MoreBlocks thread.
08:34 jp__ It's the wrong link so.
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08:34 Calinou the preferred way is cloning the Git repository
08:35 Calinou then use “git pull” to update without having to redownload everything
08:35 Calinou the download link has the new textures for me
08:35 jp__ I prefer the classic way ;)
08:35 Calinou as always, it takes a few minutes to update
08:35 Calinou should be OK now
08:36 jp__ I confirm, it's OK now
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08:43 asl Calinou that only work if the repo owner didn't mess up the tree like i always do xD
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08:44 PenguinDad wtf item descriptions in hud are now bound to waypoints http://a.pomf.se/gtkvuo.png
08:46 Calinou asl, mess up the tree?
08:46 Calinou replant it using a sapling!
08:46 * Calinou runs
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08:47 asl Calinou: lets say we both are at `A`, i make a new commit `B` and you pull, so we both are now at `B`, then i reset back to `A` and make a new commit `C` and `D`, if you try to pull, you would still be at `B` while i be at `D`
08:47 Calinou ah
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08:52 RealBadAngel PenguinDad, why do you use outdated version of UI in the first place?
08:53 Calinou the latest commits also seem to break smooth lighting in minetest_game
08:53 Calinou sunlight looks bright, but looks like crap
08:53 RealBadAngel which commit?
08:54 PenguinDad RealBadAngel: I use latest unified_inventory
08:54 RealBadAngel any other HUD mods?
08:54 Calinou http://paste.ubuntu.com/7720330/
08:56 RealBadAngel Calinou, i think i saw already logs with crashes at the very same line
08:57 RealBadAngel PenguinDad, ?
09:00 PenguinDad RealBadAngel: I'm sure if minetest_next modifies the hud that much
09:00 PenguinDad +not
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09:01 RealBadAngel PenguinDad, zip ur game and mods for me
09:01 RealBadAngel i will try to find the reason
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09:09 PenguinDad RealBadAngel: I just created a new world and now it works
09:09 PenguinDad maybe it was the old waypoint that fucked it up
09:11 RealBadAngel idk
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09:43 Calinou some textures were changed in More Blocks
09:43 Calinou (new alternate split stone tile, added shading to stone tile)
09:46 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/sMxCK6c_fvMY.jpg
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09:47 Krock splitsplat
09:53 VanessaE Krock: don't you mean splatsplit? :)
09:53 VanessaE (in the old days, we called an asterisk a "splat")
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09:53 Krock VanessaE, no actually, I mean ithow I say
09:54 VanessaE * mrtux has quit (*.net *.split) --> "mister tux has quit (splat net splat split)
09:54 Tux[Qyou] but
09:54 Tux[Qyou] i'm still here
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09:57 VanessaE Calinou: looks good
09:58 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Make sure none of the irrlicht member objects of GenericCAO are deleted prior deletion of GenericCAO 1367895 2014-06-29T11:57:01+02:00 http://git.io/i2WQfg
09:59 Calinou added deepstone (hard-to-dig stone, drops stone), below -30000
09:59 Calinou now tweaking tool digging times
10:08 Calinou done (tools are overall faster and make more sense)
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10:14 markv Hi
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10:20 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Add formspec api versioning ebf7ea5 2014-06-29T12:13:55+02:00 http://git.io/7eAMJA
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11:37 markv !up minetest.org
11:37 m5 !up minetest.org
11:37 m5 Bull fucking shit
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11:42 LemonLake nearly finished the eru vector :D
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11:43 GhostDoge Why isn't the next version 0.4.A?
11:46 * Krock gives GhostDoge A 0xC00K13
11:47 GhostDoge ERROR: Hexadecimal Parsing error at K
11:47 Krock 0x0K
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11:53 sapier https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=3&amp;t=9389 last version of android build prior merge
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11:59 LemonLake Opinions? https://cdn.mediacru.sh/C4PH_xtmX2WM.png
12:07 RealBadAngel who took her eyes??
12:07 LemonLake It's a minim vector
12:07 LemonLake Usually the faces aren't drawn
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12:29 pitriss Hi, please i want to ask.. Is there planned release date of 0.4.10?
12:31 VanessaE yes
12:31 VanessaE sorta
12:31 VanessaE within the next several days I guess
12:31 VanessaE (the plan was by the end of the month)
12:31 pitriss VanessaE: ok thank you..:)
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13:07 LemonLake just gonna remove the river generator entirely, it just does not work
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13:09 LemonLake actually, sure paramat wouldn't really mind if I basde it off of his :3
13:13 LemonLake would any of you happen to know how I can smooth a terrain out, I'll draw what I mean
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13:28 LemonLake Okay, how can I accomplish this: https://mediacru.sh/2Ds5cG3FhCci
13:28 LemonLake I've been fiddling around and searching for algorithms etc but just can't find anything
13:28 LemonLake Or at least help me find a good search term
13:34 Krock smoothing function
13:34 LemonLake Is there already one?
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14:03 Bearbar123 hello
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15:00 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix msvc2012 build ee7af21 2014-06-29T16:57:50+02:00 http://git.io/0xyxng
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15:21 LemonLake hm
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15:21 LemonLake Does anyone have a smoothing function and an example of how to use one?
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15:26 LemonLake ugh...
15:26 LemonLake chan is dead today
15:27 RealBadAngel or no 1 have smoothing function ;)
15:28 Jordach mew
15:30 LemonLake well what would I search to find one?
15:30 LemonLake anything along the lines of voxel/block smoothing is all to do with the renderer
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15:31 MinetestBot GIT: mdoege commited to minetest/minetest: OS X compatibility fixes c410e91 2014-06-29T17:27:33+02:00 http://git.io/3mCNQw
15:33 LemonLake you're helpful
15:37 LemonLake would it work if I just use, like, a kernel smoother and then floor the values?
15:44 Calinou not again the smoothing topic :'(
15:44 Calinou this is impossible for obvious gameplay reasons
15:44 LemonLake ??
15:44 LemonLake No, not that kind of smoothing.
15:44 Calinou if you're into coding smoothing, do code yaw change smoothing for players and entities :D
15:44 LemonLake calinou for fuck sake learn to read the logs
15:45 LemonLake this is the last time im telling you
15:45 LemonLake https://cdn.mediacru.sh/2Ds5cG3FhCci.png
15:45 LemonLake That kind of smoothing
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15:47 Krock wut?
15:47 Krock I'm alone on inchranet
15:50 LemonLake Can someone please explain to me how I would actually implement the smoothing function?
15:50 Krock look at paramat's water pond mapgen
15:51 LemonLake watershed or waterpond?
15:51 MinetestBot GIT: maciej.kasatkin@o2.pl commited to minetest/minetest: Glasslike_framed drawtype rework. ea6c383 2014-06-29T17:50:37+02:00 http://git.io/0Fg2ag
15:51 Krock idk
15:51 Krock waterpond
15:51 LemonLake cant find one
15:52 LemonLake by the looks of it, paramat just has a noise and puts water at a certain height
15:52 Krock https://github.com/paramat/highlandpools
15:54 LemonLake I think I had another idea
15:55 LemonLake The riverbase will be at the lowest point in the world
15:55 LemonLake then, anything above this point on the sides will be removed, starting with +1 from base, +2 from base, etc
15:57 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Don't spam server console on player/playersao error but just drop the affected client ff36071 2014-06-29T17:55:21+02:00 http://git.io/iejc6Q
15:57 LemonLake so many commits
15:58 RealBadAngel no wonder, 0.4.10 is coming
15:58 LemonLake :D
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15:59 RealBadAngel today is the day for feature freeze
15:59 RealBadAngel then some time for just fixing bugs and we go for next stable
15:59 LemonLake :D
16:00 LemonLake what are the most exciting features in 4.10?
16:00 LemonLake 0.4.10*
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16:03 PilzAdam LemonLake, cubes
16:03 LemonLake cubes?
16:03 PilzAdam lots of them
16:03 LemonLake ...
16:03 PilzAdam they are arranged and textured in a way that you reminds to RL
16:04 LemonLake I'm confused.
16:04 PilzAdam you can also destroy and rearrange them at your will
16:04 LemonLake I mean new features, for crying out loud.
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16:10 Calinou how to draw a graph of average CPU usage of a single process?
16:11 RealBadAngel LemonLake, plasma lamps ;)
16:12 Krock News: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZUE4_PtOk0
16:12 PilzAdam !title
16:13 PilzAdam MinetestBot!
16:13 MinetestBot PilzAdam!
16:13 PilzAdam !title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZUE4_PtOk0
16:13 Krock Supertramp - It's Raining Again
16:13 RealBadAngel LemonLake, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZV99d-XuVg
16:14 Krock !title
16:14 PilzAdam meh, not clicking that link without rick roll protection
16:14 PilzAdam sfan5!
16:18 sfan5 PilzAdam!
16:19 PilzAdam fix ya bot
16:19 Krock ^ !title broken
16:22 SylvieLorxu Krock: Isn't it because the last message wasn't ONLY a YouTube link?
16:22 Krock SylvieLorxu, HTML is HTML, title is always there
16:23 SylvieLorxu Krock: My point was that that line of text contains more than just an URL
16:24 PilzAdam [18:13:24] <PilzAdam> !title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZUE4_PtOk0 <- this didn't work either
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16:25 SylvieLorxu Hmm
16:25 Jordach finally got a real desk and not a corner desk
16:25 Jordach with real draws
16:26 LemonLake Is that in vanilla?
16:26 Jordach LemonLake, Real Life :3
16:26 LemonLake no, <RealBadAngel> LemonLake, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZV99d-XuVg
16:26 Jordach (FYI, shitty Pine Argos desk)
16:26 LemonLake also, s/draws/drwaers
16:26 LemonLake s/drwaers/drawers
16:27 sfan5 !title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZUE4_PtOk0
16:27 sfan5 MinetestBot!
16:27 MinetestBot sfan5!
16:27 sfan5 ???
16:27 LemonLake RealBadAngel: That's cool, how did you do it? Entities?
16:27 RealBadAngel no, framed_glass drawtype
16:27 LemonLake For all of it?
16:27 RealBadAngel yes
16:28 LemonLake uwot
16:28 LemonLake you can make tanks/barrels with framed glass??
16:28 RealBadAngel now you can
16:28 LemonLake im sold
16:28 LemonLake rebuilding immediately
16:28 LemonLake glasslike_framed yes?
16:29 LemonLake oh i get it now
16:30 RealBadAngel wanna some code examples?
16:30 LemonLake yes please
16:30 LemonLake this is amazing
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16:43 Krock yay! http://games.usvsth3m.com/2048-doctor-who-edition/
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16:53 GhostDoge http://games.usvsth3m.com/2​048-doctor-whooves-edition/ doesn
16:53 GhostDoge 't exist :(
16:54 Krock ...
16:57 LemonLake GhostDoge: you can make one
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17:07 EvergreenTree Has anyone used xiki before?
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17:08 EvergreenTree (or even heard of it?)
17:09 EvergreenTree http://xiki.org/ is the hoe page
17:09 EvergreenTree *home
17:15 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Add support for Android 2.3+ 1cc40c0 2014-06-29T18:17:56+02:00 http://git.io/ENpRQQ
17:16 PilzAdam EvergreenTree, interesting
17:16 EvergreenTree yes, it does look quite interesting
17:16 EvergreenTree I just can't get it to install
17:16 EvergreenTree :P
17:16 PilzAdam mixes good parts of shell and file manager
17:18 EvergreenTree Oddly enough, it's written in ruby
17:18 EvergreenTree look at the screencasts
17:18 PilzAdam it connects to gmail and twitter, what about privacy?
17:18 EvergreenTree fork it
17:18 EvergreenTree :P
17:19 PilzAdam Im 1337 enough to use a regular shell :-p
17:19 EvergreenTree the gmail and twitter thing should be optional though
17:19 EvergreenTree I am too, but it looked kind of cool
17:20 GhostDoge EvergreenTree: what's odd about ruby?
17:20 EvergreenTree nothing, it's just that I don't see a whole lot which uses it
17:20 EvergreenTree I might try learning it at some point
17:22 Jordach EvergreenTree, badass
17:23 VanessaE bbl
17:24 EvergreenTree Jordach: ?
17:24 GhostDoge Only getting the right ruby version is black magic sometimes
17:24 Jordach that Xiki thiung looks amazing
17:25 EvergreenTree I would use it
17:25 EvergreenTree but it fails on the sudo bundle
17:25 EvergreenTree says json 1.8.1 isn't installed, but it is
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17:31 GhostDoge EvergreenTree: try "bundle install" or "sudo bundle install"
17:32 EvergreenTree nope
17:32 EvergreenTree doesn't work
17:32 sapier https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=15&amp;t=9116 PLEASE VOTE 0.4.10 is almost done
17:39 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Copy zlib and freetype dll to windows package too c39992e 2014-06-29T19:36:51+02:00 http://git.io/3gjDvQ
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17:40 LemonLake tir we're in the 2010s
17:40 LemonLake it sounds so weir
17:40 LemonLake d
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17:52 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.p​hp?f=3&amp;t=286&amp;p=146378#p146325 → Krock, CraigyDavi, I would appreciate if you actually replied.
17:53 Krock *clicks*
17:53 Calinou whining about necrothreading doesn't help anyone and sometimes, necrothreading is acceptable
17:53 Calinou I guess he's on Windows, so tell him how to use it on Windows
17:53 CraigyDavi` Oh I don't even know how it's used
17:54 Krock I just used it as icon... didn't know about it's real use of here's one
17:54 markv I need someone to test my NFS
17:54 markv (Upload some crap to my server)
17:55 markv As long as you have 0.0.0.0/4
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18:06 Calinou posted a bunch of mods originating from Carbone on the forums
18:06 Calinou dozens to come ;)
18:06 Calinou Krock, it's made to be used as an icon, indeed
18:07 Krock okay
18:10 LemonLake Okay, it took 20 seconds to compile minetest.
18:10 LemonLake It takes 20 minutes on windows.
18:10 LemonLake Love it.
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18:14 rubenwardy You deserve a medal for compiling it on windows
18:14 Calinou 20 seconds? which CPU?
18:15 Calinou never took 20 seconds to compile Minetest here
18:15 Calinou also, do you mean the steps required to do it, or the actual compilation?
18:17 Krock LemonLake ^
18:17 LemonLake -j16
18:19 LemonLake make took 20 seconds
18:20 GhostDoge LemonLake: was that an incremental build?
18:23 * Krock doesn't know how to do incremental builds
18:25 Krock Calinou, 4 MPH, Mod releases Per Hour
18:26 Calinou heh
18:26 Calinou LemonLake, which CPU?
18:26 Calinou Krock, I think it's the default?
18:26 Calinou it means, you compiled part of it already
18:26 Calinou if you do make clean before make, it'll rebuild everything
18:26 * Krock doesn't use make
18:26 kaeza http://i.imgur.com/r64qFRH.png :D
18:26 kaeza (thanks to cg72)
18:27 Krock NYAN
18:27 Calinou opaque rainbows look like crap :x
18:27 Calinou I'm used to Carbone's semi-transparent ones
18:27 Kalista well its actualy 2370 lines if you cant all the cpp...
18:28 Kalista and an extra 1.2 seconds for me to scroll past it ;p
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18:34 sapier https://forum.minetest.net​/viewtopic.php?pid=138276 case you're a game write please declare your game ready!
18:35 Calinou I'm not a game :<
18:36 sapier seems a missing r sometimes causes complete change of meaning ;-)
18:37 Calinou however, Carbone changes often
18:37 Calinou so people who run the one bundled with the game won't benefit fully from it
18:37 Calinou still useful
18:37 LemonLake hughes
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18:46 Jordach kaeza, y u not notice my wallpaper
18:48 GhostDoge cool kaeza
18:52 * Jordach decides to go OldSkool rendering
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18:56 kaeza Jordach, ?
18:56 Jordach kaeza, notice that the screen runs Linux and uses my rendered wallpaper
18:57 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=141172#p141172
18:58 LemonLake why is there tetris in the sky
18:58 Jordach because i randomly remove faces and then extrude the remainder for faked clours
18:58 Jordach clouds*
18:58 kaeza lol tetris
18:59 kaeza Jordach, what's the license for the wallpaper?
18:59 Jordach kaeza, CC-BY-SA-(NC?)
18:59 Calinou in before NC clause
18:59 Calinou please avoid it
18:59 Jordach inb4 Calinou
18:59 Jordach i actually ninja'd you
19:00 Jordach http://irc.minetest.ru/min​etest/2014-06-29#i_3787982
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19:01 kaeza I'll have to use another one I guess
19:02 Jordach kaeza, i often don't give a fuck
19:02 Jordach i just use my default license
19:02 Jordach i'm still a don't fucking care pirate at heart
19:04 Jordach if i think it's reasonable: you can do what the fuck you like with it :P
19:04 kaeza that's not how licensing works
19:05 Jordach licensing is an outdated concept
19:05 kaeza it's either -NC, or it isn't
19:05 Jordach i
19:05 Jordach i'm playing the GPL card
19:05 SylvieLorxu Okay, so it's without NC then
19:05 Jordach which means it can be either
19:05 SylvieLorxu CC-BY-SA is most like the GPL
19:05 SylvieLorxu ...No?
19:06 SylvieLorxu What the hell Jordach, lol
19:06 SylvieLorxu Please read the GPL, you're making the most nonsense claims
19:06 Jordach SylvieLorxu, sometimes crazy is better :3
19:06 SylvieLorxu The GPL explicitly allows commercial usage
19:06 SylvieLorxu CC-BY-SA comes closest to the GPL
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19:07 kaeza Jordach, so, CC-BY-SA then?
19:08 Jordach take the one you prefer
19:08 kaeza ...
19:10 GhostDoge Dual-Licensing the Jordach way :D
19:11 Calinou CC BY-SA is more like LGPL or MPL actually; it's weak copyleft
19:12 Jordach there needs to be an NA clause: no ads / paywalls to view the image
19:15 kaeza that's part of -NC (?)
19:15 Calinou Jordach, it's stupid
19:15 Calinou it's up to the users to refuse such stuff
19:15 Calinou kaeza, it is, but NC still shouldn't be used
19:16 Calinou Wikipedia has an article somewhere on why commercial use should be allowed, but I forgot the link.
19:16 Jordach Calinou, ask the artists themselves what they think
19:16 Calinou but TL;DR: it allows your work to be popularized better
19:16 kaeza I didn't say it should, but I'm not saying it shouldn't either
19:16 Calinou I'm an artist, I allow commercial use
19:16 Jordach bullshit
19:16 Jordach i call no claims on that
19:17 kaeza (in this specific case, it shouldn't, but in the general case it's part of the freedom of the developer/artist to disallow commercial usage)
19:17 rubenwardy You can license as CC-BY-SA-NC, and then give individual permission(s) if people want to use for commercial use.
19:18 Calinou it's still a bad idea
19:18 * GhostDoge is having fun with broken physics and Z-fighting
19:18 Calinou the “you can give permission by hand” doesn't make the art free/libre, even if you get the permission, which still makes it unusable for use in fully free/libre projects
19:18 Calinou GhostDoge, I attempted to make one-way nodebox once, but I don't seem to be able to do that now
19:18 Calinou (a block you can only go through in one way)
19:18 kaeza the developer has the freedom to use whatever license they see fit (provided they comply with licenses of related software), and the user has the right not to use the software if they so desire
19:18 Calinou (no server-side stuff)
19:19 Calinou this is a free culture environment, kaeza, let's encourage it, not encourage the inverse ;)
19:21 Jordach Calinou, if you're going to act perdantic, then put yer MC packs into trash
19:21 Calinou TIL about IRC logging: “If you want to write something in a channel that is logged by ilbot, and don't want that line to be logged, prepend it with the string [off]”
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19:31 kaeza Calinou, I'm promoting freedom in the real meaning of the word, not in your limited sense
19:31 Calinou markv, there for OpenArena? ;)
19:32 Calinou it's a different kind
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19:34 Calinou http://irc.minetest.ru/min​etest/2014-06-29#i_3786914 (Krock what's the use of opening them recurive?) → it's to replace stuff in them, using the GUI tool
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19:41 * sfan5 purrs at kaeza
19:41 AMMOnym https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emBo5Lb-t8o       <----- Is here any way how to get minimap like in this video. Anyway Hi all
19:41 MinetestBot GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Add redis options to documentation 7f99904 2014-06-29T21:34:49+02:00 http://git.io/3hajDg
19:41 * kaeza purrs back at sfan5
19:42 sfan5 :3
19:42 AMMOnym Know it someone please ?
19:47 Calinou AMMOnym, gsmanners' gsmapper?
19:47 Calinou C++ change
19:47 AMMOnym Thanks
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20:00 jp http://i.imgur.com/samjDMe.png
20:01 kaeza :O
20:01 jp In NYC v1.5 : https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=146668#p146668
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20:06 Jordach jp, must join server!
20:06 jp Yep !
20:07 Jordach hand over said address
20:07 jp Paramat have created a mapgen specially for NYC : http://i.imgur.com/ZhUe5nr.jpg
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20:08 jp I can generate lands around the city now.
20:08 jp In singlenode mode.
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20:10 Jordach such lag wow
20:11 jp Lag ? How so ?
20:11 LemonLake paramat has a mapgen for everythning
20:11 LemonLake and that screenie has 2 faps
20:11 * Jordach rofls
20:12 jp Ah yes, it's normal. Too much to load. I was not in a server...
20:12 jp Full range view enabled.
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20:52 Nerotic Hello?
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20:53 Nerotic This webchat seems to be always dead when I arrive
20:53 Amaz Hello!
20:54 Amaz It has some times a lot of activity, and sometimes very little...
20:55 GhostDoge Right now the channel is Barely Alive
20:55 Nerotic ik
20:57 GhostDoge And I'm listening to Barely Alive's music right now :D
20:57 Nerotic I'm going to go work on the Core for Nerotictest and compile it later tomorrow
20:57 Nerotic bye bye
20:57 Amaz Okay!
20:57 jp IRC network seems often dead ;)
20:57 * GhostDoge wants a Necromancy mod
20:58 Amaz It depends on the channel, I think...
21:01 EvergreenTree GhostDoge: Barely alive is cool
21:01 * EvergreenTree gives GhostDoge a kitten
21:01 * sfan5 gives EvergreenTree a kitten
21:04 * Jordach meows at EvergreenTree
21:04 * GhostDoge gives sfan5 and EvergreenTree http://meowington.com/
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21:07 LemonLake sfan5: seen Clannad?
21:12 LemonLake is it just me, or does the protagonist in every anime sit in the back seat by the window of class?
21:28 LemonLake u wot
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21:44 Nerotic Hey guys, I am back.
21:45 Jordach ello
21:45 Nerotic Sup?
21:45 Jordach installing Chivalry
21:46 Nerotic Ah, I am attempting to compile on Windows. it is much harder on Windows than it is Linux Dx
21:46 LemonLake ikr
21:47 Nerotic My computer with Arch installed has like, shit itself and decided to erase grub which makes ABSOLUTLEY NO SENSE, and I lost my boot disc, so I am forced to Windows
21:52 LemonLake you need to get a boot disc to restore grub
21:52 LemonLake you can do it on a live cd
21:53 Nerotic ik
21:53 LemonLake actually
21:53 LemonLake http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=690912
21:53 Nerotic i lost that, and im getting blank cd's tommorrow to burn
21:53 Nerotic and ill have one
21:53 LemonLake that might be for ubuntu but i think its adaptable
21:53 Jordach it's possible with a liveCD
21:53 Jordach i've many a time had to use LiLo to get out of this
21:54 Nerotic Well, I am making an AI for a friend because he is lonely, ill ttyl guys
21:54 LemonLake "making an AI for a friend because he is lonely"
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22:04 Megaf !title https://github.com/Megaf/decorative_beds
22:05 Megaf bot?
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22:05 LemonLake is drunk
22:05 Exio4 who
22:06 Exio4 imnt
22:06 Kacey Hey guys...
22:10 Megaf RealBadAngel; Jordach; Don't you want to help with nice textures or models for my beds mod?
22:13 RealBadAngel sorry, i do have too much work right now, im busy hunting bugs, 0.4.10 is coming
22:14 Jordach Megaf, i can model sure
22:14 Megaf Well, I'm not sure if that's needed
22:15 Kacey celeron really is sticking with that plan?
22:15 Megaf anyway, feel free to fork and change it if you'd like to
22:16 RealBadAngel Kacey, what plan?
22:17 Kacey To continue numbering without going up in versions... Like 0.4.1, 0.4.2, ... 0.4.2888 or something like that...
22:18 RealBadAngel when the time will come, there will be 0.5
22:18 LemonLake its just not ready yet
22:19 Kacey Why don't we go to 0.4.9.1 for the next release?
22:19 RealBadAngel is that such big problem how the version will be numbered?
22:20 RealBadAngel call it just "next stable"
22:25 Exio4 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FaSinPat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brukman_factory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotel_Bauen amazing
22:26 Exio4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sug7bWxTuSo
22:32 LemonLake uwot
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22:55 * Jordach made a bunch of insane high resolution Minetest Icons based from Cisoun's Faenza pack
22:55 Jordach or based on
22:58 Exio4 costa rica!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
23:20 kaeza >"Anyways, I don't see how this dose not work, maybe cuz this is lua and not luaAPI?"
23:20 kaeza s/"//g
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